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HTC HD2 UK Release on US 3g

Topic 1:
I've been searching and doing some research over the past few days, but I'm still learning. I contacted eXpansis about purchasing a HD2 on release and asked them if it would work on a the us 3g (at&t) system. They promptly said no. This is where my confusion sets in. In reviewing the bands that are supported by the phone:
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It shows the bands that at&t uses for 3g 850 and 1900. But in the specs listed in the screenie the 850 and 1900 are listed under GSM, What I need is the 850 and 1900 bands listed under HSPA/WCDMA correct? So the phone would function for voice calls etc, but data would be null or extremely limited correct?
Also this is a hardware requirement, not rom upgradable?
Topic 2: I may start a new thread for this as others have probably gone before me.
It seems the HD2 is destined for TMOUSA in q1 of 2010. Can I port this phone to at&t services? This would require the sim unlock,SPL (not sure what this is) unlock and a radio rom flash?
Thanks for putting up with my questions, it's making me loose my hair even faster.

crackmonke said:
Topic 1:
I've been searching and doing some research over the past few days, but I'm still learning. I contacted eXpansis about purchasing a HD2 on release and asked them if it would work on a the us 3g (at&t) system. They promptly said no. This is where my confusion sets in. In reviewing the bands that are supported by the phone:
It shows the bands that at&t uses for 3g 850 and 1900. But in the specs listed in the screenie the 850 and 1900 are listed under GSM, What I need is the 850 and 1900 bands listed under HSPA/WCDMA correct? So the phone would function for voice calls etc, but data would be null or extremely limited correct?
Also this is a hardware requirement, not rom upgradable?
Topic 2: I may start a new thread for this as others have probably gone before me.
It seems the HD2 is destined for TMOUSA in q1 of 2010. Can I port this phone to at&t services? This would require the sim unlock,SPL (not sure what this is) unlock and a radio rom flash?
Thanks for putting up with my questions, it's making me loose my hair even faster.
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First: the unlocked HD2 will still get AT&T data on EDGE speeds. that's what the GSM is. it'll pick up EDGE on all 4 of those bands. you're right, you need the 850/1900 bands under the HSPA/WCDMA bands. so therefore, the Euro unlocked HD2 won't get 3G on AT&T's network here.
Second: you could get the phone unlocked from T-MO USA, and you'd only have to SIM unlock it. it's your choice if you wanna flash a HARD SPL and a new radio and ROM. all you need to do in order to use it on AT&T's network is get it SIM unlocked. but you still won't get 3G on AT&T, since T-Mo and AT&T use different 3G bands.

Excellent reply. I was able to find this other post which helped, but definately not as much as your reply. Thank you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568613
So on to the second plan since plan one is out, and the second plan is limited , damn so plan 3? ha...I need 3g+ for tethering. I'm concerned with T-MO USA because I have never used them. After reviewing the coverage information over at GSM World,
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml
TMOUSA shows no 3g, only GSM 1900, where at&t mobility show 3G 850/1900. So 3g is possible over GSM1900? I'm seeing a max rate of 9.6kbits/s on GSM can this be correct? Are faster speeds available?

crackmonke said:
Excellent reply. I was able to find this other post which helped, but definately not as much as your reply. Thank you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568613
So on to the second plan since plan one is out, and the second plan is limited , damn so plan 3? ha...I need 3g+ for tethering. I'm concerned with T-MO USA because I have never used them. After reviewing the coverage information over at GSM World,
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml
TMOUSA shows no 3g, only GSM 1900, where at&t mobility show 3G 850/1900. So 3g is possible over GSM1900? I'm seeing a max rate of 9.6kbits/s on GSM can this be correct? Are faster speeds available?
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I'm not too familiar with the exact speeds, but I know that EDGE speeds definitely won't be fast enough for tethering. the main reason why I wouldn't go to T-MO is because of their lack of 3G coverage.
and yes, 3G is possible over the 1900 bandwidth. T-Mo uses the 2100 band, but only because that was the only band available to them when they opened their 3G network. T-MO USA is was the last major US carrier to adopt 3G, and are therefore way behind in their development of it. while AT&T, Sprint and VZW are already beginning to develop their 4G networks, T-Mo is still trying to broaden their 3G coverage

poppinpengawen said:
I'm not too familiar with the exact speeds, but I know that EDGE speeds definitely won't be fast enough for tethering. the main reason why I wouldn't go to T-MO is because of their lack of 3G coverage.
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Well frak me with a wooden spoon. at&t will never get the hd2. Too much iphone up the a$$ne$$. I guess I'm going to end up with the TP2 with sense on it, damn it seems so dated already.
Poppin, thank for the help, and guidance.

crackmonke said:
Well frak me with a wooden spoon. at&t will never get the hd2. Too much iphone up the a$$ne$$. I guess I'm going to end up with the TP2 with sense on it, damn it seems so dated already.
Poppin, thank for the help, and guidance.
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hey man don't worry about it. and it's not really for sure that AT&T won't get it. they lose exclusive rights to the iPhone next year (I think. could be 2011 too tho...) but there's always a chance that they could pick up the HD2. I didn't jump the AT&T ship for the tp2, but if AT&T doesn't get it then I might actually leave.

Ok new information, I've got the TP2 for at&t ready for purchase on sunday, but I just found this information. Could someone take a look at it for me? It looks like the 3 bands
HD2 info from phone arena:
Network Type GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS dual-band European/Asian 3G (900/2100 MHz)
Tilt2 band information from At&t official site:
Wireless Technology
GSM/GPRS850/900/1800/1900 MHz 3G850/1900/2100 MHz EDGE high speed data networkBLUETOOTH® technology2.1
Do you see where the 2100 mhz bands match up? Is the difference the UMTS vs 3g? Are they not the same technology?

crackmonke said:
Ok new information, I've got the TP2 for at&t ready for purchase on sunday, but I just found this information. Could someone take a look at it for me? It looks like the 3 bands
HD2 info from phone arena:
Network Type GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS dual-band European/Asian 3G (900/2100 MHz)
Tilt2 band information from At&t official site:
Wireless Technology
GSM/GPRS850/900/1800/1900 MHz 3G850/1900/2100 MHz EDGE high speed data networkBLUETOOTH® technology2.1
Do you see where the 2100 mhz bands match up? Is the difference the UMTS vs 3g? Are they not the same technology?
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you're right, UMTS and 3G are the same thing. UMTS is basically normal 3G, while HSDPA is actually more along the lines of 3.5G.
I'm not too sure about what you're asking, but if you're wondering if, since the AT&T Tilt2 utilizes tri-band UMTS (850/1900/2100), will the HD2 be able to run AT&T's 3G, then the answer, sadly, is no. this is simply because AT&T does not use the 2100 band, only the 850/1900 bands. the reason they usually make their phones with tri-band 3G frequencies is so that their subscribers can get some 3G coverage when they travel abroad (whether it's to another state or out of the country.) adding another 3G band allows their subscribers to have more 3G coverage, particularly if they travel out of the country. it all depends on whether the state/country they go to utilizes the 2100 band.
whew, that was a bit of typing. hope I was of some help.

poppinpengawen said:
...will the HD2 be able to run AT&T's 3G, then the answer, sadly, is no...
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Neither by flashing the proper ROM? Is that a hardware limitation?

pckshd said:
Neither by flashing the proper ROM? Is that a hardware limitation?
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rom won't help, since it's a hardware antenna (and software) limitation.

HTC Sensation 3G 850/1900!

Vodafone has a HTC Sensation for sale and lists the 3G MHz has 850/1900/2100
I would like to purchase the HTC Sensation but want to know if this is a typo.
If I purchase this phone from vodafone do you think it will be possible to unlock it? I've been looking for a new phone with 3G that will work on ATT.
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/htc-sensation

its unlock already

west2cool said:
its unlock already
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Yep! They're SIM free.

I think their website is wrong. If you watch some of the unboxing videos for the Vodafone Sensation, the box lists AWS and not 1900. I have only the videos to go by though. Wait for the T–mobile US version to come out though. It may have the right frequencies for AT&T, or so I've heard.

Paten said:
I think their website is wrong. If you watch some of the unboxing videos for the Vodafone Sensation, the box lists AWS and not 1900. I have only the videos to go by though. Wait for the T–mobile US version to come out though. It may have the right frequencies for AT&T, or so I've heard.
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Where have you heard the TMO US Sensation will have 850 3G?

samnada said:
Where have you heard the TMO US Sensation will have 850 3G?
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I have a t-mobile (US) version, however it came in a generic box. Is there a way to tell what frequencies it supports?

Looking at the Gallery for an article at TmoNews, a picture of the box showed the frequencies available on the Sensation 4G.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobile-branded-htc-sensation-4g-in-the-wild/
The box shows UMTS frequencies are 1700, 2100 and 1900. Isn't 1900 AT&T?
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AT&T uses 850 and 1900 3G. Unless the TMO US Sensation has 850 it won't fly 3G on AT&t.

Walkamo said:
I have a t-mobile (US) version, however it came in a generic box. Is there a way to tell what frequencies it supports?
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There are some special codes you can dial to display service menus that include the frequencies in use. Don't know them for HTC. Some Googling might turn up the answer.

It was my understanding that you can use 850 or 1900 for 3G on AT&T but didn't necessarily have to have both. But this is just something I vaguely remember hearing somewhere and don't have any personal experience to back it up.

Paten said:
It was my understanding that you can use 850 or 1900 for 3G on AT&T but didn't necessarily have to have both. But this is just something I vaguely remember hearing somewhere and don't have any personal experience to back it up.
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Yeah you don't need both. I used to rock a phone with only 1900, but you only get 3g in some areas and not others. And if I remember correctly att was/is actively moving all 3g onto the 850 band, so really I think the 850 band is more important of the two. Really did suck when everyone else had 3g and I was on edge because it was a 850 zone for 3g.

kaiserkannon said:
Yeah you don't need both. I used to rock a phone with only 1900, but you only get 3g in some areas and not others. And if I remember correctly att was/is actively moving all 3g onto the 850 band, so really I think the 850 band is more important of the two. Really did suck when everyone else had 3g and I was on edge because it was a 850 zone for 3g.
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That's my understanding as well, 850 and 1900 currently required on ATT to get 3G everywhere.

Walkamo said:
I have a t-mobile (US) version, however it came in a generic box. Is there a way to tell what frequencies it supports?
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How did you get at US version Sensation, if I may ask?

Paten said:
I think their website is wrong. If you watch some of the unboxing videos for the Vodafone Sensation, the box lists AWS and not 1900. I have only the videos to go by though. Wait for the T–mobile US version to come out though. It may have the right frequencies for AT&T, or so I've heard.
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What is AWS? I assume its not a code name for 850 lol

milestonedude said:
What is AWS? I assume its not a code name for 850 lol
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AWS advanced wireless services 1700

If some one needs sensation with 850/2100 for 3G, will have to wait till sensation is released for canada ( Rogers/telus/bell) . however it does not look near

drgopoos said:
If some one needs sensation with 850/2100 for 3G, will have to wait till sensation is released for canada ( Rogers/telus/bell) . however it does not look near
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Never, ever, EVER look forward to a Canadian release. We get **** MONTHS after the UK and US if we're lucky!!!
When it comes to new phones, just keep the word "Canada" out of the discussion unless you're emo and look forward to disappointment lol. The thought of acquiring a Canadian version of the Sensation never even crossed my mind. All my phones have always been imported.
The only thing I use carrier upgrades for with my actual service here is so I can sell the phone which makes the most money so I can import a new one. The wireless industry in Canada is way behind even the poorest third world nations.
/rant

unfortuantely there is no other place that has 850 spectrum for 3g

drgopoos said:
unfortuantely there is no other place that has 850 spectrum for 3g
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Isn't the Vodafone UK version UTMS/HSPA 850/1900/2100?

drgopoos said:
unfortuantely there is no other place that has 850 spectrum for 3g
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Not quite true if this listing is accurate:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
But it certainly is limited.

how i know if my sensation is 4g ?

hello
how i know if my sensation is 4g ?
i bought a sensation on ebay saing is 4g, but i dont see it any where on the phone.
thanks

All tmo branded sensations are 4g.

splayer7 said:
All tmo branded sensations are 4g.
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whats tmo ?
mine is unbranded

vladnosferatu said:
whats tmo ?
mine is unbranded
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Tmo is T-Mobile USA
Yours is NOT a 4G because it did not come from T-Mobile is what he was telling you. Same speeds though..Just different marketing used in the name.
So to answer your question, No you do not have a 4G.

vladnosferatu said:
hello
how i know if my sensation is 4g ?
i bought a sensation on ebay saing is 4g, but i dont see it any where on the phone.
thanks
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wow no 4g, so thats why its unbranded no biggy if you dont have a 4g data plan

phonegod said:
wow no 4g, so thats why its unbranded no biggy if you dont have a 4g data plan
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If he has a unbranded one its the same as T-Mobile's 4g one. They both have the same 3g/4g bands. T-Mobile's "4G" is just hspa+ I have an unbranded one and it works exactly the same as T-Mobile's except I don't have the Tmobile bloat. So there is no difference between his and the T-Mobile one. I think most of the international versions of the Sensation all have the tmo us bands. I think they might have released one so far that doesn't have the same bands.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

graffixnyc said:
If he has a unbranded one its the same as T-Mobile's 4g one. They both have the same 3g/4g bands. T-Mobile's "4G" is just hspa+ I have an unbranded one and it works exactly the same as T-Mobile's except I don't have the Tmobile bloat. So there is no difference between his and the T-Mobile one. I think most of the international versions of the Sensation all have the tmo us bands. I think they might have released one so far that doesn't have the same bands.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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Thanks !!!!!!!!

tmobile version is the only version that is 4g. if its unbranded it will not be 4g, only 3g which all carriers carry.

EmceeGeek said:
tmobile version is the only version that is 4g. if its unbranded it will not be 4g, only 3g which all carriers carry.
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Sorry to say but you are wrong. I have an unbranded asian sensation and it has the SAME exact 3g/4g bands as the TMO USA version. And T-mobiles version of "4G" really isnt 4G at all. It's HSPA+ which is not true 4G. There is no difference between the 2. In fact it seems that all Sensations released world wide so far have the same bands as TMO. You can confirm this by going to any country's HTC site and looking at the specs of the Sensation
Look at my box from my unbranded sensation under network it says
"Network: HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS(this is TMOs 3g/4g Band)/2100)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900)
And it wouldnt work on any other US carrier's 3G network unless they use the same bands as TMO which there arent any except the carriers like simple who use tmo's network. So if you try to take your sensation and use it on ATT you will only get 2G speeds because tmo's 3g/4g network is different bands than other carrier's 3g/4g in the us
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Sorry to say but you are wrong. I have an unbranded asian sensation and it has the SAME exact 3g/4g bands as the TMO USA version. And T-mobiles version of "4G" really isnt 4G at all. It's HSPA+ which is not true 4G. There is no difference between the 2. In fact it seems that all Sensations released world wide so far have the same bands as TMO. You can confirm this by going to any country's HTC site and looking at the specs of the Sensation
Look at my box from my unbranded sensation under network it says
"Network: HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS(this is TMOs 3g/4g Band)/2100)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900)
And it wouldnt work on any other US carrier's 3G network unless they use the same bands as TMO which there arent any except the carriers like simple who use tmo's network. So if you try to take your sensation and use it on ATT you will only get 2G speeds because tmo's 3g/4g network is different bands than other carrier's 3g/4g in the us
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Ok I bought mine from uk, is it 4g.its locked to tmobile as well.I noticed usa version says tmobile on the front of the handset next to htc logo.however uk tmobile version don't say tmobile anywere except when u turn it on.

Galaxy S 4g with AT&T 1900 3G Band?

Hey all,
I know the Vibrant has AT&T's 1900 3g band.
Can anyone confirm if the Galaxy S 4G also have the same AT&T 1900 3g band?
What sucks is that these bands are typically not listed in the specs but it's always a pleasant surprise when a t-mo phone has the AT&T 1900 band.
Thanks.
I'm thinking of upgrading to the Galaxy S 4g from the Vibrant but I don't want to give up the 1900 band when I swap to an AT&T sim.
Thanks in advance for the info

Yes it will but u can check it out here
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-4G_id5138

Thanks for the reply but according to phonearena, the Galaxy S 4g only covers GSM 1900. Not UMTS 1900.
The Vibrant actually has UMTS 1900 hence Unlocked Vibrants can be used on AT&T's 3G network
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Vibrant_id4747
However, I know phonearena isn't always accurate when it comes to specs/bands so that's why I'm asking all you Galaxy S 4g owners
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Yes it will but u can check it out here
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-4G_id5138
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joel32137 said:
Thanks for the reply but according to phonearena, the Galaxy S 4g only covers GSM 1900. Not UMTS 1900.
The Vibrant actually has UMTS 1900 hence Unlocked Vibrants can be used on AT&T's 3G network
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Vibrant_id4747
However, I know phonearena isn't always accurate when it comes to specs/bands so that's why I'm asking all you Galaxy S 4g owners
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the s4g doesnt have the full 3g band hence why it goes from hsdpa to edge and not switch to 3g as it actually lacks the band for it .....

RaverX3X said:
the s4g doesnt have the full 3g band hence why it goes from hsdpa to edge and not switch to 3g as it actually lacks the band for it .....
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Does that mean Tmobile phones will work on a att
4g?

Compxpert said:
Does that mean Tmobile phones will work on a att
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should worse case is u get edge at best

Joel, what did you end up doing?
Can the SGS 4G use 4G on AT&Ts network?

I was at one point able to get Straight Talk 3G working on the 1900 band when I used to live in TX. This was using ATT's network so it is definitely possible.
However a word of caution: from my experience in some areas ATT uses 850 for 3G, which the SGS4g does not support (edge only).

Got my sgs 4g unlocked and tested on at&t sim card ,3g worked with no problem (chicago area)
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The unlocked version of this phone does include umts 1900 band so it can pickup 3g signal on that frequency.
On the back of the phone it says it clearly.
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the tmobile version also
Bought from tmobile with no mention of ATT BANDS in the specs. Rooted, unlocked and was able to pick up 3g in Dallas,Tx on Att.

Thanks all, I'm glad to hear that T-mo's Galaxy S 4g works with AT&T's 1900 3g band.
I know this may be asking much but for all who's running the phone on AT&T's 3G 1900 band (and if you have time), do you mind doing a speed test on AT&T and posting your results?
Thanks,

joel32137 said:
Thanks all, I'm glad to hear that T-mo's Galaxy S 4g works with AT&T's 1900 3g band.
I know this may be asking much but for all who's running the phone on AT&T's 3G 1900 band (and if you have time), do you mind doing a speed test on AT&T and posting your results?
Thanks,
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I have unlocked mine and had 3g on at&t for a while (brothers at&t sim) got regular 3G speeds as well. Its crazy huh?
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why on earth would u do this less theres no t/simple mobile I had att on my 3g vibrant for a while yeah it said it got 3g but it SUCKS espacially indoors thats why att used the other frequency to get indoor "penetration"

Dreamlogix said:
why on earth would u do this less theres no t/simple mobile I had att on my 3g vibrant for a while yeah it said it got 3g but it SUCKS espacially indoors thats why att used the other frequency to get indoor "penetration"
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Heh, you said penetration.
Okay kidding aside
Yes the SGS4g will run on ATT's 3g band. You won't have 4g though.
I actually used mine on ATT for almost 2 weeks lol

If a carrier support 4G on 1900mhz band would I get 4G without problems??

tehgyb said:
Heh, you said penetration.
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That's what she said!

I'm picking HSPA now
Since this morning, I've been picking up HSPA from AT&T on my SGS4G. Until today it always displayed the 3G icon and the network info said UMTS.
Today I started picking up HSPA. Although crappy speeds, it's HSPA
I have no idea what happened overnight but the network has changed.
By the way, I'm in Wilmington, DE

andersensam said:
Since this morning, I've been picking up HSPA from AT&T on my SGS4G. Until today it always displayed the 3G icon and the network info said UMTS.
Today I started picking up HSPA. Although crappy speeds, it's HSPA
I have no idea what happened overnight but the network has changed.
By the way, I'm in Wilmington, DE
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what rom is that? (mods etc) looks good

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what rom is that? (mods etc) looks good
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Es el MIUI, lo consegui en este foro. Me gusta, pero tiene sus problemas

[Q] Will the Unlocked One S support T-Mobile AWS?

From what I've read, I believe the answer is "close but no cigar." Am I right? Or should we expect this device to work pretty well at grabbing onto HSDPA signals, but with a little higher battery drain, since the radio would have to work harder?
I have been considering pre-ordering an unlocked, black HTC One S (MAO model) from either Negri Electronics or Expansys, but I don't want to waste my time & money if this phone is, quite literally, a non-starter on the T-Mobile US network.
I'm a former CDMA subscriber and I've only been with TMo for 8-9 months. This would also be my first unlocked phone purchase, so thanks in advance for any insight you guys can offer.

I'm just going to wait and buy it from T-Mobile. Yeah I'll pay full retail but I'll sell my old phone to cover most of the cost; that's kind of how I do my upgrades! I just don't want to worry about it not working. I think it needs 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G/4G to work.

@unclespoon - I hear you, but I'm interested in the black model, which is "micro arc oxidized." I understand that TMoUS is only selling the gradient anodized model. We shall see.
Anyone else with an idea about the likely performance of that unlocked international model on TMo AWS?

Here's the answer to my question from Myriam Joire (@tnkgrl) of @Engadget, via Twitter:
"@malcontent510 the Euro version won't. The US version will. Both are tri-band, one without AWS."​

malcontent510 said:
Here's the answer to my question from Myriam Joire (@tnkgrl) of @Engadget, via Twitter:
"@malcontent510 the Euro version won't. The US version will. Both are tri-band, one without AWS."​
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I don't see any reason why the International version will not support AWS band. Both phones have the same qualcomm chip.
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NardVa said:
I don't see any reason why the International version will not support AWS band. Both phones have the same qualcomm chip.
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it would be silly. The only difference should be the tmobile branding and bloatware. I thought the idea of only three models is to reduce the number of phones you have out there.

TWO different models of the One S: PJ40110 / PJ58100
I am hoping that there is no difference, but I was just quoting what Myriam from Engadget told me. I have since learned on Wikipedia that T-Mobile's HSDPA frequencies (namely "1700 MHz/2100 MHz UMTS AWS") are not specifically listed as covered by the antenna in the international version. The appropriate frequencies may, in fact still be covered, but according to both Negri Electronics and GSM Arena, the unlocked international version does not list them.
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100​
I hope this is either not the case or not a show-stopper.
Edit: I now see a 3/12/2012 article from Engadget which indicates there are actually TWO distinctly different ONE S models:
HTC PJ40110
HTC PJ58100
WTF?

So if I buy a One S from the UK, will I only get edge? Or 3G? Thanks! Hoping to buy this phone in December when I'm due for an upgrade
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@invasion2 - that is what I've been asking and which seems to remain an open question. Other than Myriam's tweet (above), no one has attempted to directly answer that question.
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malcontent510 said:
@unclespoon - I hear you, but I'm interested in the black model, which is "micro arc oxidized." I understand that TMoUS is only selling the gradient anodized model. We shall see.
Anyone else with an idea about the likely performance of that unlocked international model on TMo AWS?
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Ok, sorry for going off topic a tad here but, can you (malcontent510 or anyone who knows of this) link your source for that info...for if it is true then I now have to go back to the drawing board for my idea on which phone I will be getting soon.

malcontent510 said:
@unclespoon - I hear you, but I'm interested in the black model, which is "micro arc oxidized." I understand that TMoUS is only selling the gradient anodized model. We shall see.
Anyone else with an idea about the likely performance of that unlocked international model on TMo AWS?
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kaeruil said:
Ok, sorry for going off topic a tad here but, can you (malcontent510 or anyone who knows of this) link your source for that info...for if it is true then I now have to go back to the drawing board for my idea on which phone I will be getting soon.
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@kaeruil - I based my assumption on the HTC website, here:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htcones-tmobile
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FWIW, I also refer you to the gradient anodized model which was featured in the leaked video of 3/27/2012 from a YouTube poster who said his unbranded [pre-release] phone was a T-Mobile model.

malcontent510 said:
@invasion2 - that is what I've been asking and which seems to remain an open question. Other than Myriam's tweet (above), no one has attempted to directly answer that question.
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Haha thanks. Don't know why no one is answering
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@malcontent510 - thanks, now that you pointed it out, don't know how I didn't notice that...guess I need some new glasses as well as a new cell

malcontent510 said:
I am hoping that there is no difference, but I was just quoting what Myriam from Engadget told me. I have since learned on Wikipedia that T-Mobile's HSDPA frequencies (namely "1700 MHz/2100 MHz UMTS AWS") are not specifically listed as covered by the antenna in the international version. The appropriate frequencies may, in fact still be covered, but according to both Negri Electronics and GSM Arena, the unlocked international version does not list them.
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100​
I hope this is either not the case or not a show-stopper.
Edit: I now see a 3/12/2012 article from Engadget which indicates there are actually TWO distinctly different ONE S models:
HTC PJ40110
HTC PJ58100
WTF?
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The version the clove is selling does support them http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-one-s

TramainM said:
The version the clove is selling does support them http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-one-s
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No. Unfortunately, the international model (including the one mentioned above) sold by Clove does not cover the 1700MHz frequency -- the TMobile US AWS frequency. The end result being that this phone would not support HSPA on TMo.

OK sorry for being off topic, but I'm a bit confused. The One S will or will not support SD/SIM Cards? Because isn't the SD/SIM your phone number? That confuses me. And is there even a difference between SD and SIMs? Thanks! Again, sorry for the off topic. If you want me to I will create my own topic.

So. I may be leaving Sprint and my Evo 3D behind to go to T-mo. I was planning on grabbing an unlocked ONE S. I am not experienced with unlocked gsm phones coming from Sprint and all...
Expansys shows 850/900/1900/2100.
If I understand correctly, t mobile 3g is on the 1700 band. 4g is on the 1900 band. So we would get 4g (hspa+) but not any 3g...
I was planning on the gradient metal version. I don't want to get stuck with a ceramic blue version from T-MOBILE...
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invasion2 said:
OK sorry for being off topic, but I'm a bit confused. The One S will or will not support SD/SIM Cards? Because isn't the SD/SIM your phone number? That confuses me. And is there even a difference between SD and SIMs? Thanks! Again, sorry for the off topic. If you want me to I will create my own topic.
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SIM and SD is not the same thing at all. SD cards (in this case micro SD) are for storage.
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malcontent510 said:
No. Unfortunately, the international model (including the one mentioned above) sold by Clove does not cover the 1700MHz frequency -- the TMobile US AWS frequency. The end result being that this phone would not support HSPA on TMo.
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That's interesting considering the international model and US model carry the same Qualcomm chip. In theory both phones should support the same bands.
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Just got off phone with expansys, they confirmed that it is NOT compatible with T-MOBILE 3G.
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