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Apps2SD with Fresh 0.7 rom + blue theme?

I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?

BAttitude7689 said:
I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?
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(I personally don't like apps2sd but if you really have that many apps...)
Yea. Backup your sd card (it will get wiped). Boot in to recovery and create swap+ext2+fat32 and then convert ext2 to ext3 (all are options in the recovery menu). It will move everything for you.

Why don't you like apps 2 sd? I just figure if you have that you won't have worry about internal memory if you wanted to have a lot o
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This is why he doesn't like it:
flipzmode said:
**My note about Apps2SD: I added support for it in this release of the rom because people who were using it in other roms that tried to install this rom were receiving errors. Here's my point of view on it.
I played with it for over 8 hours today between implementing it and then testing it to make sure this fix would work. I have personally come to not like apps2sd, but I am including it for those who use it.
The reason I don't like it is because it puts your phone at a huge risk of having problems once anything goes wrong. If you install a program that causes issues, a nandroid backup will not resolve the issue because the application is installed on your SD card not your phone. If your phone starts going crazy as reported here and here, then even just a restore possibly won't fix it. You might need to go as far as to wipe your SD card too. If you are lucky enough to have a restore fix your problems you will still need to reinstall every app, even if you didn't wipe your card. And on top of that when you try to reinstall any app it will think it's still installed, even though you restored your phone. But when you click "uninstall" it will just freeze half the time because there's nothing on the phone for it to actually install. I have also read many threads that say if you happen to boot the phone up without the SD card in then it will screw everything up.
So now maybe you are wondering why I would add Apps2SD support in this rom. In order for people who are currently using Apps2SD to upgrade to this rom I must support it or require them to do a hard reset before coming to fresh. Clearly I don't want you to have to reset so I have supported it. With that said: I personally recommend not using it. This rom will auto-use it if your SD card is formatted for it (fat32+ext2+swap partitions) but it won't use it if you are only partitioned as 1 fat32. My suggestion is to stick to the 1 partition and let your applications install on the phone. Linux is not like Windows in the sense that it will run the same whether you phone has 140 megs free of storage space or 10 megs free. So unless you plan on installing 100 apps, I don't see the practical purposes of using Apps2SD. But a lot of people like it.
Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD. It is a program that I think has the possibility of being great, but has to work within the confines of the phone which means tricking Android in to thinking that the applications are installed on the phone when they aren't. That is what leads to all the problems mentioned above.
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If i have apps2sd already from the previous rom i don't have to re-do it for the new one correct?

no you dont.

using apps2sd2 problems
I followed all the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5618439#post5618439 for apps2sd2 yet when I open the app, it STILL says Oops, you have to run through the tutorial to set it up. I've DONE THIS. I'm extermely frustrated. I have no idea what more to do. My sd card is partitioned correctly. I've run all the commands listed in that tutorial. PLS HELP! Also all my apps are showing in /system/sd/app AND data/app. Is this correct? Why won't Apps2sd2 work for me? I really need some troubleshooting help.
I have a rooted CMDA HTC Hero using the Fresh ROM. Also is there a way to still get Sprint TV using this ROM?

Fresh .7 doesn't support A2SD, only Fresh 1.0 & 1.1.

Can I root and flash a new ROM without an SD card?

Do I have to have an SD to flash a new rom on the G? Mine will be here today but I won't get my SD card til the end of the week. I was hoping to wipe it and make it usable so I don't have a frustrating night playing with it.
Crap! This should have been in General, not in Development. Feel free to move it for my stupidity.

It has internal storage that mounts and looks like an sd card to the device. It's 16gb worth and you can use it to flash roms. So to answer your question, no you do not.

One caveat: If you flash to any mods, I would highly recommend having a microSD card on hand. Many of us have had issues where we get stuck in a reboot loop and the only way to re-flash is to use the microSD.
If you have clockworkmod, this is not a problem as you can have as many update.zip files as you want, and clockworkmod can just be directed to them.

roebeet said:
One caveat: If you flash to any mods, I would highly recommend having a microSD card on hand. Many of us have had issues where we get stuck in a reboot loop and the only way to re-flash is to use the microSD.
If you have clockworkmod, this is not a problem as you can have as many update.zip files as you want, and clockworkmod can just be directed to them.
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Thank you roebeet. I am looking forward to putting TnT Lite on it. Is it possible to use the same card that I use in my Samsung Captivate just to flash it? I don't want to get things mixed up. I have another card on the way but not til Friday and I'm pretty sure I'll be disappointed with it stock.

DraglineDrummer said:
Thank you roebeet. I am looking forward to putting TnT Lite on it. Is it possible to use the same card that I use in my Samsung Captivate just to flash it? I don't want to get things mixed up. I have another card on the way but not til Friday and I'm pretty sure I'll be disappointed with it stock.
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Yes, that sdcard would be fine...

Couldn't one just open an adb shell and rename the zip as needed to flash whatever?

vaelek said:
Couldn't one just open an adb shell and rename the zip as needed to flash whatever?
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Not if you system is in a reboot loop - that's why I would recommend that anyone modding should have a microSD card on hand + a way to copy files to it from a PC.
Let's put it this way: you bought a $375+ device that you are now going to modify. Isn't it worth another 10 bucks (or less) to get a 2GB microSD as a backout in case it has problems?

roebeet said:
Not if you system is in a reboot loop - that's why I would recommend that anyone modding should have a microSD card on hand + a way to copy files to it from a PC.
Let's put it this way: you bought a $375+ device that you are now going to modify. Isn't it worth another 10 bucks (or less) to get a 2GB microSD as a backout in case it has problems?
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Good thing I did. Everything went flawlessly at first and then after about an hour or so I rebooted and got stuck in a reboot loop. I think I'm ok now but we'll see. I really want to put the Tegra updates on there but am not feeling ballsy yet. I read too much about people having issues with it.
Thank you again to everyone who has helped and especially to you roebeet.

[Q] Can anyone help? SD card (internal)

So I updated to the leaked Samsung 2.2 Froyo. I am trying to move apps to the sd card and I am getting an error. "Failed to move application. Not enough memory".
I have seen demos/reviews with this function working. I am also making sure I try it with apps that are compatible with the feature.
Anyone have a clue as to whats going on here.
Other than that, I love being a new Android user, ported over from the apple world. Captivate made my 3g look foolish.
Thanks in advance for any help guys.

stjalsma said:
So I updated to the leaked Samsung 2.2 Froyo. I am trying to move apps to the sd card and I am getting an error. "Failed to move application. Not enough memory".
I have seen demos/reviews with this function working. I am also making sure I try it with apps that are compatible with the feature.
Anyone have a clue as to whats going on here.
Other than that, I love being a new Android user, ported over from the apple world. Captivate made my 3g look foolish.
Thanks in advance for any help guys.
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When installing a program it will pop up, this is Apps2SD, do you want to move. Or you can see it in manage applications, select application > Move to SD is highlighted
You have to be careful with it because that silly media scanner will run and disable you sd functions. Example. You have a program that starts up when your phone starts you will get a FC because the media scanner is running.
Good to have you by the way.

I'm getting the same message, but it was working before.
I flashed a ROM and enabled lag fix. However, when I went back to stock, I forgot to disable the lag fix.
I'm back to the leaked 2.2, but I still can't move apps to the SD card. There is plenty of memory free.
Is there any way around this?
Thanks!

gospeedgo said:
I'm getting the same message, but it was working before.
I flashed a ROM and enabled lag fix. However, when I went back to stock, I forgot to disable the lag fix.
I'm back to the leaked 2.2, but I still can't move apps to the SD card. There is plenty of memory free.
Is there any way around this?
Thanks!
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Have you tried doing a master reset to remove the the lag fix or gotten the app from the market app2sd?

I tried a master clear using Odin, but I haven't tried a master reset. How is that done?

gospeedgo said:
I tried a master clear using Odin, but I haven't tried a master reset. How is that done?
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If you did a master clear with odin then it is pretty much the same thing

Oh, and when I use the app, I get the same message.

gospeedgo said:
Oh, and when I use the app, I get the same message.
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Ok I know a dumb question but do you have enough rom on your SD card? Try the apps2sd app from the market

No worries, I know you have to ask.
My SD card has 12.83GB free.
I did try using the apps2sd, but I get the same message, that there isn't enough memory.

I would say that there is an issue with the leaked rom. I would try a custom rom and see if it happens, if it is still an issue I would copy the stuff off your card and reformat it to see if that is an issue

I actually got the message the first time I tried a custom ROM. When I went back to 2.2 the problem went away, but I hadn't tried the lag fix.
When I tried another customer ROM today, I got the message again, but this time a tried the lag fix.
I forgot to disable it when I went back to stock, then to 2.2.
I did reformat the internal SD card, didn't help. That's why I turned to the forums. I'm all out of ideas.

OMG I am stupid lol. The apps to SD is for moving the APPS to an EXTERNAL sd card not the internal sd

LOL, no worries.
I don't want to waste my time, but would it be worth a try to:
1. Flash back to stock.
2. Install Clockwork recovery
3. Install customer ROM again.
4. Enable lag fix.
5. Disable lag fix.
6. Flash back to stock.
7. Master clear
8. Install 2.2 again?

gospeedgo said:
LOL, no worries.
I don't want to waste my time, but would it be worth a try to:
1. Flash back to stock.
2. Install Clockwork recovery
3. Install customer ROM again.
4. Enable lag fix.
5. Disable lag fix.
6. Flash back to stock.
7. Master clear
8. Install 2.2 again?
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Only if you have enough room on your external sd (micro sd plugged into the phone)

I don't currently have one installed.
It must be a file system issue. Is there anyway to rebuild the stock file system? Or is that supposed to happen when I flash back to stock?
By the way, thanks for your help on this.

gospeedgo said:
I don't currently have one installed.
It must be a file system issue. Is there anyway to rebuild the stock file system? Or is that supposed to happen when I flash back to stock?
By the way, thanks for your help on this.
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No prob, but here is the deal. This only works for external SD card in 2.2 2.1 didnt have this option at all. So unless you insert an external SD card it is not gonna work.

OK, now I'm the stupid one. I didn't even think of putting my SD card back in! I always take it out when I flash back to stock because the media scanner takes so long.
Anyway, I put it back in, now I can move to SD.
So, my next question is, where does it put it on that SD card? I looked, and I don't see anything other than my music.

gospeedgo said:
OK, now I'm the stupid one. I didn't even think of putting my SD card back in! I always take it out when I flash back to stock because the media scanner takes so long.
Anyway, I put it back in, now I can move to SD.
So, my next question is, where does it put it on that SD card? I looked, and I don't see anything other than my music.
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To tell the truth I dont remember really, I have not needed to move anything to my external sd in a long time, what are you using to look at your SD card?

Root explorer. It's not really that important, it's mostly just curiosity.

Just bought.

Before I do the OTA update would you all recommend skipping it and going for the hacked ROMs? I will be working on this tonight.
Woot, EXCITED
Also what is the best 8-16g SD card to get? Does it matter?
Thanks

WantADroid said:
Before I do the OTA update would you all recommend skipping it and going for the hacked ROMs? I will be working on this tonight.
Woot, EXCITED
Also what is the best 8-16g SD card to get? Does it matter?
Thanks
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My vote would be to start with the modding... I have my first ROM flashed before I was out the door at sears.
A for the SD Card, there are several different choices; some prefer one brand over the other. I don't think I use mine as extensively as others. The higher the class (class 2,6,10) the faster the read/writes are supposed to be. I just recently picked up a 16gb Class 10 from Fry's for $32. Couldn't pass that deal up even though I didn't really need it.
Good luck!

Having just flashed mine from Stock 3389 + Enhancement Pack to TNT 3.1.3, I can tell you that there isn't a ton of difference between the two. I do like CWM and the ability to back everything up, but the Stock 3389 delivered very similar performance and Quadrant scores compared to TNT 3.1.3, in that when browsing, I can't really tell any difference at all.
It really wasn't very hard to flash a custom ROM. Just follow the directions from the one thread that talks about CWM, TNT, and Flash/Market fix, and just substitute the ROM of your choice. It's likely that you won't have to do the Flash fix either.
Enjoy!

Thanks
Thanks for the replies!
In order to use the custom ROMs I need an SD card correct? Is there anything in the new update that screws up using the custom ROMs?

WantADroid said:
Thanks for the replies!
In order to use the custom ROMs I need an SD card correct? Is there anything in the new update that screws up using the custom ROMs?
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Technically no... you can boot up and drop what you need on the internal SD and run from there. It's good to have a MicroSD on hand as you can run recovery/command directly from there if you'd like. It's also recommended to keep recovery files and a rom (stock) on the MicroSD in case of a boo boo, it allows you to boot to recovery and re run it.
Remember that in the recover folder there is a command file. That file is telling the tab where to look, either SDCARD (built in) or SDCARD2(microSD). That command is WIPED every time its run weather successful or not. Therefore it's a good idea to have a pc nearby in case you need to replace it.
Also, depending on where you are running it from make sure the command is pointing to where you are wanting to go SDCARD (built in) or SDCARD2(microSD). Some grab a stock recovery folder from here (which tells it to look locally) then put the ROM on the MicroSD and nothing happens.
Again, IMHO Clockwork is the way to go. I personally drop all ROMS in the internal SD and play from there. Boot into recovery (Clockwork) and tell it to install the flavor of the day.

[Q] Rooted XOOM No SD

Hi all,
I am a noob, first post. I purchased my XOOM (WiFi version) one week ago. I was led to believe it was stock (it is 2 mo. old) and have discovered that it has been rooted and modded. Here is the Device Info:
Android Version 3.2
Kernel Version 2.6.36.4-Tiamat_Xoom-v2.1.0-Tachi-StockGPU-gcef3887
It did not come with an SD card. I purchased one today (16gb). Are there critical files missing that were on the original sd card?! Thanx in advance.

To further clarify; if I wish to factory reset the device, are there files that I will need on the sd card other than a current backup?

the stock xoom didnt come with an sd card. it didnt even support it initally. hitting the restore to default button will not remove your root.

patass said:
the stock xoom didnt come with an sd card. it didnt even support it initally. hitting the restore to default button will not remove your root.
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What exactly do you want to do with your Xoom? It is great to already be rooted and that Tachi kernel is a big improvement over stock. Do you just want to clean out the previous owners stuff and make it more yours? Or do you want to go back to a pure stock state?

That is a good question. I guess my main concern is that I am able to mod my device without any problems that the previous owner may have caused by removing critical files on the SD card. I'm a little paranoid as I am just beginning to learn.
I discovered a clockworkmod recovery file "recovery-clockwork-4.0.0.4-stingray.img" in the internal memory. I don't understand what that file is. Is this a stock recovery file?

Janoska said:
That is a good question. I guess my main concern is that I am able to mod my device without any problems that the previous owner may have caused by removing critical files on the SD card. I'm a little paranoid as I am just beginning to learn.
I discovered a clockworkmod recovery file "recovery-clockwork-4.0.0.4-stingray.img" in the internal memory. I don't understand what that file is. Is this a stock recovery file?
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ClockworkMod recovery is a custom recovery. It is installed when rooting and is a great improvement over the stock recovery because it allows you to make a complete system image so you can experiment with new rom or kernel and always be able to restore to a previous state if you're dissatisfied or if something goes wrong. Also, with the right version you can save files to your external micro sdcard [you purchase it.it does not come with the Xoom] and flash them through your CWM recovery menu. However, version 4.0.0.4, the one you have installed, doesn't recognize the external sdcard. You will need to install version 3.2.0.0 R4c.

Thanks for the info, I will install version 3.2.0.0 R4c. Looks like the previous owner saved me some work.