I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?
BAttitude7689 said:
I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?
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(I personally don't like apps2sd but if you really have that many apps...)
Yea. Backup your sd card (it will get wiped). Boot in to recovery and create swap+ext2+fat32 and then convert ext2 to ext3 (all are options in the recovery menu). It will move everything for you.
Why don't you like apps 2 sd? I just figure if you have that you won't have worry about internal memory if you wanted to have a lot o
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This is why he doesn't like it:
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**My note about Apps2SD: I added support for it in this release of the rom because people who were using it in other roms that tried to install this rom were receiving errors. Here's my point of view on it.
I played with it for over 8 hours today between implementing it and then testing it to make sure this fix would work. I have personally come to not like apps2sd, but I am including it for those who use it.
The reason I don't like it is because it puts your phone at a huge risk of having problems once anything goes wrong. If you install a program that causes issues, a nandroid backup will not resolve the issue because the application is installed on your SD card not your phone. If your phone starts going crazy as reported here and here, then even just a restore possibly won't fix it. You might need to go as far as to wipe your SD card too. If you are lucky enough to have a restore fix your problems you will still need to reinstall every app, even if you didn't wipe your card. And on top of that when you try to reinstall any app it will think it's still installed, even though you restored your phone. But when you click "uninstall" it will just freeze half the time because there's nothing on the phone for it to actually install. I have also read many threads that say if you happen to boot the phone up without the SD card in then it will screw everything up.
So now maybe you are wondering why I would add Apps2SD support in this rom. In order for people who are currently using Apps2SD to upgrade to this rom I must support it or require them to do a hard reset before coming to fresh. Clearly I don't want you to have to reset so I have supported it. With that said: I personally recommend not using it. This rom will auto-use it if your SD card is formatted for it (fat32+ext2+swap partitions) but it won't use it if you are only partitioned as 1 fat32. My suggestion is to stick to the 1 partition and let your applications install on the phone. Linux is not like Windows in the sense that it will run the same whether you phone has 140 megs free of storage space or 10 megs free. So unless you plan on installing 100 apps, I don't see the practical purposes of using Apps2SD. But a lot of people like it.
Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD. It is a program that I think has the possibility of being great, but has to work within the confines of the phone which means tricking Android in to thinking that the applications are installed on the phone when they aren't. That is what leads to all the problems mentioned above.
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If i have apps2sd already from the previous rom i don't have to re-do it for the new one correct?
no you dont.
using apps2sd2 problems
I followed all the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5618439#post5618439 for apps2sd2 yet when I open the app, it STILL says Oops, you have to run through the tutorial to set it up. I've DONE THIS. I'm extermely frustrated. I have no idea what more to do. My sd card is partitioned correctly. I've run all the commands listed in that tutorial. PLS HELP! Also all my apps are showing in /system/sd/app AND data/app. Is this correct? Why won't Apps2sd2 work for me? I really need some troubleshooting help.
I have a rooted CMDA HTC Hero using the Fresh ROM. Also is there a way to still get Sprint TV using this ROM?
Fresh .7 doesn't support A2SD, only Fresh 1.0 & 1.1.
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I'm stuck on the "T.Mobile G1" splash screen after trying to run apps from my sd card
i used This Thread to do my mod and now im scared!!!
can someone help me???
i was rooted on rc 33 jf 1.42
i prepared my Class 6 8G card on my MAC using disk utility then 2 partitions half (3.43G or whatever)on FAT 1st then second half (3.whatever) as ext2
i was trying to do the apps to sd card thing and after doin all of the terminal commands (i got to the point right after seeing how much space i have on my sd card and internal) this was my next step:
busybox cp -a /data/app /system/sd
rm -r /data/app
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app
but after doin it it kept saying "no space on memory" or somethin so i went to internet cleared cache, forms, cookies, and history then restarted to make sure the terminal knew (noobish)
and it just froze at the G1 splash screen...HELP!!!!!
something like this happened to me when i downloaded a theme and i just reinstalled my original modded rc33 firm and it was fixed, but this time it did the same thing. i can still pull up the system recovery utility screen so im wondering if theres anything i can type in the log (alt+L) or console (alt+x)
CharonTheGreat said:
i used This Thread to do my mod and now im scared!!!
can someone help me???
i was rooted on rc 33 jf 1.42
i prepared my Class 6 8G card on my MAC using disk utility then 2 partitions half (3.43G or whatever)on FAT 1st then second half (3.whatever) as ext2
i was trying to do the apps to sd card thing and after doin all of the terminal commands (i got to the point right after seeing how much space i have on my sd card and internal) this was my next step:
busybox cp -a /data/app /system/sd
rm -r /data/app
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app
but after doin it it kept saying "no space on memory" or somethin so i went to internet cleared cache, forms, cookies, and history then restarted to make sure the terminal knew (noobish)
and it just froze at the G1 splash screen...HELP!!!!!
something like this happened to me when i downloaded a theme and i just reinstalled my original modded rc33 firm and it was fixed, but this time it did the same thing. i can still pull up the system recovery utility screen so im wondering if theres anything i can type in the log (alt+L) or console (alt+x)
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Are you using one of the apps to sd ROM's? Without that all hell will break loose when you try apps to sd.
As for the poll, there's a reason why Google couldn't make apps run off the sd card. In order to do it they'd have to have the sd card be ext2 since you can't symlink to a FAT32 partition. Since windows computers won't recognize ext2 partitions that was a no-go, since, you know, 90% of people use windows. Also, look at what happens with the apps to sd hack when you take out the sd card. Suddenly apps that may or may not be running don't exist and, again, all hell breaks loose. Better to force people to hack their phones to get this working than to actually have the phone work that way when it can cause such severe problems.
EDIT: after looking briefly at the link, I see that the instructions you followed were for non-apps to sd ROMs. I see no reason why it didn't work but if you really don't feel that comfortable with it, you could always just flash one of the apps to sd ROMs and follow one of those(much easier) tutorials or even use my app to do it with the push of a button. Just remember, after moving them you MUST restart your phone for anything to work.
Whats the point of this poll?
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Are you using one of the apps to sd ROM's? Without that all hell will break loose when you try apps to sd.
As for the poll, there's a reason why Google couldn't make apps run off the sd card. In order to do it they'd have to have the sd card be ext2 since you can't symlink to a FAT32 partition. Since windows computers won't recognize ext2 partitions that was a no-go, since, you know, 90% of people use windows. Also, look at what happens with the apps to sd hack when you take out the sd card. Suddenly apps that may or may not be running don't exist and, again, all hell breaks loose. Better to force people to hack their phones to get this working than to actually have the phone work that way when it can cause such severe problems.
EDIT: after looking briefly at the link, I see that the instructions you followed were for non-apps to sd ROMs. I see no reason why it didn't work but if you really don't feel that comfortable with it, you could always just flash one of the apps to sd ROMs and follow one of those(much easier) tutorials or even use my app to do it with the push of a button. Just remember, after moving them you MUST restart your phone for anything to work.
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that would be great to use your app. if i get my phoe fixed il try ur way (looks a LOT less likely to be screwed up by me). as you saw from the other thread it didn't call for a ROM and i followed the steps EXACTLY do you know of a way for me to fix this problem using the bootloader or power+home button screen? because those are the only two things i can use at the moment? I'm basically a virgin/rookie/n00b at this whole thing (horiible since was one of the earlist jailbreakers on the iphone.ipod touch) id LOOOOOVE your assistance with this and will completely listen to your steps/commands
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Whats the point of this poll?
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there is no real point to this (or any for that matter) poll, except for the fact that i'm frustrated with what i did, and annoyed at t-mobile's **** in general (i've been with them since 97
CharonTheGreat said:
that would be great to use your app. if i get my phoe fixed il try ur way (looks a LOT less likely to be screwed up by me). as you saw from the other thread it didn't call for a ROM and i followed the steps EXACTLY do you know of a way for me to fix this problem using the bootloader or power+home button screen? because those are the only two things i can use at the moment? I'm basically a virgin/rookie/n00b at this whole thing (horiible since was one of the earlist jailbreakers on the iphone.ipod touch) id LOOOOOVE your assistance with this and will completely listen to your steps/commands
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'fraid I'm not sure how to do this without an apps to sd ROM(I tried to do this myself originally and ended up giving up). But flashing one of them(LucidREM's, Haykuro's apps to sd or The Dude's apps to sd) should fix whatever's going on I'd think. From your commands it looks like anything that would be fixed from the recovery terminal was already correct. You probably won't have your apps anymore but since it looks like setting jf's up for apps to sd is what failed, they're probably already gone. From there running my app should work. Also, it wont let you move the apps to sd if anything isn't set up right so this shouldn't happen again.
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'fraid I'm not sure how to do this without an apps to sd ROM(I tried to do this myself originally and ended up giving up). But flashing one of them(LucidREM's, Haykuro's apps to sd or The Dude's apps to sd) should fix whatever's going on I'd think. From your commands it looks like anything that would be fixed from the recovery terminal was already correct. You probably won't have your apps anymore but since it looks like setting jf's up for apps to sd is what failed, they're probably already gone. From there running my app should work. Also, it wont let you move the apps to sd if anything isn't set up right so this shouldn't happen again.
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how would i go about flashing your (or any1 else's) rom to my phone?
those commands i inputted were in the terminal emulator app. if there's anything in the recovery utility's console (alt+x) or log (Alt+L) id love to know (or is that what your saying your not sure about)?
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how would i go about flashing your (or any1 else's) rom to my phone?
those commands i inputted were in the terminal emulator app. if there's anything in the recovery utility's console (alt+x) or log (Alt+L) id love to know (or is that what your saying your not sure about)?
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For the ROMs, go to the Dream android development forum(what this thread is in) and go to LucidREM's sticky, or Haykuro's or The Dude of Life's thread. Haykuro's and The Dude's ROMs are for cupcake, Lucid's is a mod of the normal JF builds. Flashing the ROM is just a matter of putting the downloaded file from one of those posts, renaming it update.zip, placing it in the topmost directory on your sdcard, and pressing alt-w and then alt-s at the recovery screen. My app is called "apps to sd" and is available on this forum or as a donation version for $1 on the market.
by the way, anyone else think it's odd that the percentages in the poll add up to 125%?
EDIT: now 120%
Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
Also I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (posibly faster) microSD card. What is the best way of doing this without losing any data/apps? Would it be nand+ext backup from recovery, then partition new microSD same way, and drag over nand+ext file and restore? Or is it going to be a two step process, of partitioning and reflashing new microSD, and using a third party app like mybackup to restore apps?
thanks
If it's not broken now, it's probably fine. If you run into problems though, do the wipe.
As for the SD, I use a Linux boot CD (Ubuntu Installer CD) to partition and copy the SD contents. I just used 2 SD readers and copied directly between the cards. It worked very well for me and the phone didn't know the difference. Doing a nand+ext, partitioning the new card, then restoring would likely work for apps and such, but /sdcard (the FAT32 partition) won't be restored. You can use just about anything to copy that partition though.
thanks man. gonna go get new microSD today. I hear sandisk is best quality for accuracy in class claims. any other suggestions? people always tell me microSD's over ebay from generic manufacturers in china rarely match their advertised class ranking. Any one agree that notion?
shawndaivari said:
Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
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Holy crap.. it worked! Thanks for posting that you tried it w/success. I just flashed Super D's 1.10.3 w/out any issue.
Now to mess around with Super D for the 1st time
remind me how this is android development
Well part of developing is finding out different ways to do things, so he found a compatibility. Good enough?
Flashin cyan over superD isnt suprising since its basically a themed rom to flash over the rooted defanged roms
Same TREE branch
in theory any rom based off Cyanogen's git tree would flash over CM just fine
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shawndaivari said:
Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
Also I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (posibly faster) microSD card. What is the best way of doing this without losing any data/apps? Would it be nand+ext backup from recovery, then partition new microSD same way, and drag over nand+ext file and restore? Or is it going to be a two step process, of partitioning and reflashing new microSD, and using a third party app like mybackup to restore apps?
thanks
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The best way for me is to turn off the phone, put new SD in and if your have RA-amon's recovery you can partition with that, and then toggle USB. Plug your old SD into your computer with SD-reader or the like, I use a USB-reader. Then you copy old SD to new. Remember once you partition your card it becomes the life of your phone, your apps are stored in your partition. So' everthing that was on the old card needs to copied to the new one or your going to have problems. Nandroid backs up your rom state, not your SD. As for SD's I would go with kingston, I've tried quite a few and kingston's have never let me down. Trust me I've been with this root thing from the beginning, when we rooted through Telnet and partition from console in recovery and ADB. I've root over 20 phones. I just rooted my moms Samsung Moment. Follow instuctions and you don't have problems. I would'nt make a habit of flashing without a wipe, I wipe data, dalvik and ext, just to be safe. Use Backup for root users, and then you can restore on your new rom, so you don't have to go through installing all your apps.
shawndaivari said:
Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
Also I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (posibly faster) microSD card. What is the best way of doing this without losing any data/apps? Would it be nand+ext backup from recovery, then partition new microSD same way, and drag over nand+ext file and restore? Or is it going to be a two step process, of partitioning and reflashing new microSD, and using a third party app like mybackup to restore apps?
thanks
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wait wait wait...your tellin' me...we can flash superD over cyanogen without doin; the whole partition thing!...without any problems? or do i have to do all that before?...
I'm running the **SMS* 3.02 by RSK team on my HTC Desire, the rom works great (I wanted the Amaze Cam) but I seem to run out of internal memory really quickly, ROM has only been on (again) for a week and I'm down to 25mb, all apps have been moved to SD.
I do have quite a few apps installed, but surely being on SD internal memory should be empty. The phone has a 16Gb SD card with a 2Gb ext partition created through recovery.
How to I get the memory back? I suspect it's going to be full in a day or 2, leading me to another full wipe
What i did to make more mem is using ''ram manager'' on the market and kill apps running in the background.
Thanks, I'm not sure how killing running apps is going to free phone storage space, though
I suspect I need to find a data2sd rom, ideally with the new cam
getting closer, I notice my Dalvik cache is ~170Mb, so taking up all that space. I installed 2 market apps to move it, the first, S2E just does nothing when IO tell it to move the cache. The second, a2sdgui, exits with the following message
"cannot start for one of these reasons
1. your phone is not rooted (it obviously is to be running custom roms?)
2. A2SD scripts could not be found o
3. No EXT partition found
Did you create a partition on your SD CARD? Does your custom rom support APP2SD (normally is natively included)?
Make sure.
Otherwise, I would suggest to try another rom to see what happen.
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getting closer, I notice my Dalvik cache is ~170Mb, so taking up all that space. I installed 2 market apps to move it, the first, S2E just does nothing when IO tell it to move the cache. The second, a2sdgui, exits with the following message
"cannot start for one of these reasons
1. your phone is not rooted (it obviously is to be running custom roms?)
2. A2SD scripts could not be found o
3. No EXT partition found
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Don't assume that because you are running a custom ROM means your phone is rooted - the 2 have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Check that you have superuser installed, and if you do run terminal emulator and type the command su. If you're rooted you should get asked if you want to allow superuser privileges to the app. If it doesn't ask then either you've allowed (and remembered) the permission before or you're not rooted.
If an app's telling you you're not rooted then it's possibly right - always good to be sure.
Thanks, phone definitely rooted, and superuser installed (and titanium backup, which I've just used)
can't see mention of apps2sd on the rom page, though I was running a pretty old version.
Decided to do a full wipe, repartition the SD card and install a later version which has dalvik-cache to sd-ext, hopefully this will solve the problem of it filling.
Showing 174MB free right now, (+8.6Gb)
I take it if the cache does fill again I can just wipe it with no ill effects?
I wipe all my cache periodically with this:
https://market.android.com/details?...sMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLmFhYy5jYWNoZW1hdGUuZGVtbyJd
I normally free up to 20 MB.
I have a Motorola triumph cell phone, which is on the stock rom that came with the phone. All I did is root it, put clockworks recovery on it and add a 32GB micro SD card in the micro SD card slot. I am getting two messages on the phone -
1- Text message memory full. Incoming message rejected due to full memory.
2- Low on space. Phone storage space is getting low.
I have cleared all the cache, text messages, and e-mail from the phone. That still did not work. So since my phone is rooted I installed an app that would let me move apps to the SD card. I moved all the apps that I could to the SD card. What do you know that still did not work. After doing all of this I am still getting the two messages. I do not want to factory reset the phone and loose everything on the phone. Right now the memory is like this -
1 - SD card total space 29.71GB Available space 16.96GB
2 - Internal phone storage available space 28.39MB
What else can I do to clear up more internal memory on the phone?
Apparently this is a problem with other people also and the only way around this is to install after market firmware like CyanoGenMod. I use Minimum triumph myself.
What is the best rom for the phone? I am reading that with some roms some stuff does not work. I want everything to work like stock rom. Is there a good rom that has everything working?
You can factory reset your phone. That will fix it.
You can root the phone and delete the .alog files (those are the ones that keep building and take up all the space).
There are a couple other options as well, besides flashing a custom ROM. It has been discussed multiple times over at androidforums.com. I would recommend going there to get the details.
yasirfaheem said:
What is the best rom for the phone? I am reading that with some roms some stuff does not work. I want everything to work like stock rom. Is there a good rom that has everything working?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410821
this link will direct u to the best rom i ever used, personally.
I just delete the bloat ware from system/app...all that stock crap...But the best way is to flash a new rom
I had to do a factory reset. I was warned not to do it from the settings favtory reset. Use the factory reset from the custom recovery.
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I had to do a factory reset. I was warned not to do it from the settings favtory reset. Use the factory reset from the custom recovery.
Sent from my MOTWX435KT using XDA
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If you are using the original software that came with the phone, there are "a log" files that will build up and need to be deleted. I would recommend installing a customized rom to help free up some space and performance, as well as a lot of other cool features to make the phone better. Stock just won't cut it on this phone.
Space Problem and ROMs
My sister had a the same problem with her Droid Incredible. It went away for a while after a factory reset but came back within a month.
I'd suggest looking into a good ROM even if you weren't having this issue. Mantera over at android forums has a really nice CM9 alpha (it's what I'm using) and it's pretty great if you don't mind not having HDMI or camera (that will hopefully get fixed soonish). If you're cool with CM7, g60madman picked up where Whyzor left off and is providing regular updates so far to address bugs.
I'm confused. Why did you get an app to move apps to SD? The stock rom supports app2sd already. Just go to settings and apps. Click an app in the list to see the properties page. Should see a button to move to SD. Not all apps can be moved but the huge ones usually can.
Why?
jedgell233 said:
I'm confused. Why did you get an app to move apps to SD? The stock rom supports app2sd already. Just go to settings and apps. Click an app in the list to see the properties page. Should see a button to move to SD. Not all apps can be moved but the huge ones usually can.
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Because many App2SD apps allow you to do batch moving, where you can select what you want to move. Then, all you have to do is press OK and tap Move to SD Card and press back when done to move to the next app from the checklist you basically just made. They also may support extra actions, such as warn you if moving an app to an SD card will disable any of its functionalities.
I am stuck at work and can't install any formatting tools on my work pc (gee go figure they would block those, haha). However I want to set up the ext4 and swap partition on the new SD card I just installed. Any suggestions for a free partitioning tool I can use on my P500h itself without needing a pc? Pros/cons etc... I don't want to start filling it with apps until I get the SD card sorted and I ran out of time this morning before leaving because of a stupid boot loop issue after flashing.
Running the new CM11 Kit Kat Rom, fully rooted unlocked...blah blah blah and if I have to wait another 8 hours to play with it again it's going to suck so if anyone has any suggestions - hit me with them. Looking for stable, won't kill the card, easy to configure, no pc required solutions.
Renzy1973 said:
I am stuck at work and can't install any formatting tools on my work pc (gee go figure they would block those, haha). However I want to set up the ext4 and swap partition on the new SD card I just installed. Any suggestions for a free partitioning tool I can use on my P500h itself without needing a pc? Pros/cons etc... I don't want to start filling it with apps until I get the SD card sorted and I ran out of time this morning before leaving because of a stupid boot loop issue after flashing.
Running the new CM11 Kit Kat Rom, fully rooted unlocked...blah blah blah and if I have to wait another 8 hours to play with it again it's going to suck so if anyone has any suggestions - hit me with them. Looking for stable, won't kill the card, easy to configure, no pc required solutions.
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You should be able to boot in to your recovery and format the SDCARD from there. At least you could with older CWM versions, pre KitKat. Not sure about the newer ones.
I installed AParted on my phone and it worked like a charm. Was able to set up all 3 partitions using one screen, a slider button for setting sizes and a drop down for the type. It was amazingly easy with great instructions. I have been happily redownloading all my apps and setting things back up. Next step is to read up on best ways to save battery whether I use an app or play with voltage settings or maybe both....gah - so much to learn!!!