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Market Force Closing

So ive been trying to get apps2sd and i have succesfully done it by using apps2sd2 from the market to partition my card and then i followed the steps by Mailman below and it worked..all my apps were in the sd etc with 73 MB free...but when i click on market...it gives me an option that there is no connection when in fact i do and 2 seconds after it showa the force close message.. anyone have any idea how to fix this?

I had the same issue, had to do a full data wipe to fix it.

well seems that a full data wipe fixes it, but then when i input the commands in the terminal emulator
lucid app
lucid data
lucid dalvik
so i can get everything to the sd card it starts doing the same thing again..any ideas what is causing it?

I'm unfamiliar with the method you're using to get your apps on your SD card - mine are running on the SD card also, but I used the good ol' symlink method to do so...
It would appear your marketplace can't access your apps, or, is being locked out of something - perhaps a permissions issue on your sd partition? I had that issue when I first set up mine. All the apps were copied over with the same user/group and the market place freaked out.
The only way I was able to fix it was to copy all my apps off the sd partition to my computer, do a full datawipe, nuke all my apps, and reinstall them.
I set up a shell script that took the contents of ~/apps/*.apk and sent each to adb install, on its own line, and automated the whole thing. Took about 3 minutes to reinstall my 80 or so apps, and it restored all the app permissions to what they were supposed to - market didn't have a problem afterwards.

futango said:
I have found my problem. This works great. I can't have data on my SD or it will be really sluggish. I redid the flash and the commands, but left out "lucid data" and the phone has 72MB free and feels fast again.
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Don't move the data and everything should work fine.

i see what your saying. ill have to try that out, but now it seems that after i wiped my data and pressed home+back to reboot my phone it is stuck at the T mobile G1 screen and doesnt want to do anything at all anymore...it just got worse.any way to fix this? ove tried wiping again and i formatted my dscard so no update to reinstall..what should i do?

just wait... when you wipe under the new builds, it may take 10mins to boot for the first time.
also I don't know how it is possible to do app2sd with terminal emulator. when you rm dalvik-cache or app that program should crash before the shell script or command finish

I had this happen as well.. more than once.
And each time it was a result of moving the "data" over to the SD card.
I finally learned my lesson... and my phone is now solid.

Hi,
My experience on 5.02 h is that the data move does not work correctly also.
I have moved the :
apps
apps-private
davik-cache
without any problems.
85 apps installed and 61 megs free with this method.
Browser and market cache cleared 1st.

I found this to be an issue only when I had tried to make my EXT2 partition too big (Over 2GB). Exact same error, moving data to the SD, Market crash. The problem was tied to moving the data though.

I had the same problem. It apeard after I installed TA utility.
The problem is that Market is looking for it's cache directory and can't find it. In my case it's looking for it on the SDcard and I have to make the directory myself: /sdcard/cache/market.
If you have not attempted to move the Market cache to SD you might want to see if you have a /cache/market in your internal memory, and if not create it.
It should solve your problem. (worked for me)

im having the same problem too.. the Application section doesn't work for me, but im able to still go into the Game section. i tried adding a cache folder to the SD still doesnt work

Apps2SD with Fresh 0.7 rom + blue theme?

I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?

BAttitude7689 said:
I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?
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(I personally don't like apps2sd but if you really have that many apps...)
Yea. Backup your sd card (it will get wiped). Boot in to recovery and create swap+ext2+fat32 and then convert ext2 to ext3 (all are options in the recovery menu). It will move everything for you.

Why don't you like apps 2 sd? I just figure if you have that you won't have worry about internal memory if you wanted to have a lot o
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This is why he doesn't like it:
flipzmode said:
**My note about Apps2SD: I added support for it in this release of the rom because people who were using it in other roms that tried to install this rom were receiving errors. Here's my point of view on it.
I played with it for over 8 hours today between implementing it and then testing it to make sure this fix would work. I have personally come to not like apps2sd, but I am including it for those who use it.
The reason I don't like it is because it puts your phone at a huge risk of having problems once anything goes wrong. If you install a program that causes issues, a nandroid backup will not resolve the issue because the application is installed on your SD card not your phone. If your phone starts going crazy as reported here and here, then even just a restore possibly won't fix it. You might need to go as far as to wipe your SD card too. If you are lucky enough to have a restore fix your problems you will still need to reinstall every app, even if you didn't wipe your card. And on top of that when you try to reinstall any app it will think it's still installed, even though you restored your phone. But when you click "uninstall" it will just freeze half the time because there's nothing on the phone for it to actually install. I have also read many threads that say if you happen to boot the phone up without the SD card in then it will screw everything up.
So now maybe you are wondering why I would add Apps2SD support in this rom. In order for people who are currently using Apps2SD to upgrade to this rom I must support it or require them to do a hard reset before coming to fresh. Clearly I don't want you to have to reset so I have supported it. With that said: I personally recommend not using it. This rom will auto-use it if your SD card is formatted for it (fat32+ext2+swap partitions) but it won't use it if you are only partitioned as 1 fat32. My suggestion is to stick to the 1 partition and let your applications install on the phone. Linux is not like Windows in the sense that it will run the same whether you phone has 140 megs free of storage space or 10 megs free. So unless you plan on installing 100 apps, I don't see the practical purposes of using Apps2SD. But a lot of people like it.
Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD. It is a program that I think has the possibility of being great, but has to work within the confines of the phone which means tricking Android in to thinking that the applications are installed on the phone when they aren't. That is what leads to all the problems mentioned above.
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If i have apps2sd already from the previous rom i don't have to re-do it for the new one correct?

no you dont.

using apps2sd2 problems
I followed all the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5618439#post5618439 for apps2sd2 yet when I open the app, it STILL says Oops, you have to run through the tutorial to set it up. I've DONE THIS. I'm extermely frustrated. I have no idea what more to do. My sd card is partitioned correctly. I've run all the commands listed in that tutorial. PLS HELP! Also all my apps are showing in /system/sd/app AND data/app. Is this correct? Why won't Apps2sd2 work for me? I really need some troubleshooting help.
I have a rooted CMDA HTC Hero using the Fresh ROM. Also is there a way to still get Sprint TV using this ROM?

Fresh .7 doesn't support A2SD, only Fresh 1.0 & 1.1.

New to CM7

Hi all,
So last night I decided to give Cyanogenmod7 a try. I came from MIUI.us 2.1.20 - I just love MIUI, but it's a bit too demanding for the Milestone. So I have CM7 up and running, and it is a lot more snappy. But now, I'm having trouble installing some apps.
I tried installing my bank's banking app, but it didn't install - checked the market and it doesn't appear. Same thing with WhatsApp!! If it were working, I might just become a CM7 user..but it's not working.
Am I missing something? I installed after doing a full wipe, after which I installed DT A2SD scripts and then gapps-20111216 (although didn't see gmail or market etc after gapps, so installed those via apk).
What's the deal here?
Thanks.
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Ok, just wiped again, and reinstalled all. CM7 then gapps then dt a2sd. So far it's working.
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googleservicesframework.apk and vending.apk are all you need for using market. Try to reinstall them. May you success.

Ok, so now my problem is A2SD. It's not working! A2SDGUI refuses to go in, and when I do a check, I get a segmentation fault...I've never had this issue before. I've tried reinstalling DT A2SD from withing recovery and still, nothing. Please assist, I just need to get set up properly now.
Regards
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DT scripts dont work ...use an external partition (app2ext)

d.casper.b: CM7 for Milestone already comes with its own ap2ext scripts that are automatically used if there is ext partition present on your sdcard.
You should not install any 3rd party app2ext scripts as they are very likely to be conflicting with the scripts that are already there.

Thanks kabaldan.
I'll check it out.
I was even going so far as trying to use Link2SD from the market..
How'd I know if it's working? By monitoring the available internal storage?
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d.casper.b said:
Thanks kabaldan.
I'll check it out.
I was even going so far as trying to use Link2SD from the market..
How'd I know if it's working? By monitoring the available internal storage?
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when you will enable app2ext you will see the total space in your storage rise to 197 mb

I am not winning. I did a factory reset and flashed cm7 and gapps (not dt a2sd).
I did a test, internal storage was at 191mb, then I installed opera mobile and it went down to 182mb. Then uninstalled it again. Went into cyanogenmod settings and set install location to external. Installed opera again, but it was no different. Moving it to sd under 'manage applications' increased the internal memory again, but that's just moving the app to the FAT32 partition of the sd card.
So it's not seeming to work for me for some reason.
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EDIT: I really don't want to be a nuisance, but now, looking at the available storage using "Quick System Info", I noticed after uninstalling "Opera Mobile", 9mb was freed on internal storage & 13mb on the ext partition.
So, perhaps it is working, and since the dalvik cache is (I assume) on internal storage, the storage is still decreasing. Am I correct? If so, is there a way to also move dalvik cache to the ext partition - I had it like this on MIUI & never looked at available memory ever again.

First of all, have you really partitioned your SD card? Make sure you followed the 3rd step on this guide: http://www.mrmuh.com/2012/01/update-a-motorola-milestone-from-motorola-firmware-to-cyanogenmod-7/ . You should have your SD Card partitioned with two partitions, the first should be FAT32 that's used normally on Android, and the second EXT3 or EXT4. Obviously, make sure you have a backup of your FAT32 partition before partitioning.
Second, you should understand how the apps2ext scripts on CM7 work. Application installs that would be stored on internal memory are rerouted to the EXT3/4 partition on the SDCard. This happens at the underlying system (linux) level, Android (that runs on top of linux) is not aware of this rerouting, so, as far as Android "knows", apps that are rerouted to the EXT partition are on the phone's internal memory. That means that you should make sure that apps you need installed on the EXT partition of the SD card are shown in "Applications > Manage applications" list to be installed on the internal memory. Yep, it's confusing, but once you understand how it works and why it works that way, it makes sense.
Third, the fact that apps are rerouted to the EXT partition doesn't mean that everything about the app will live on the ext partition: it means only the main application package will live on the ext partition, application data is still stored on the internal memory. For most apps, the amount of data used for application data are much smaller than the application package, but in some apps the amount of application data from the app may often surpass the size of the app itself - for example, in my phone, Tweekdeck stores about 9Mb of data, which is about 10 times the size of the application itself (820kb) - presumably this amount of data is cached tweets, pictures, etc. But that case is usually the exception, not the rule, I've just mentioned it so you understand that using apps2ext doesn't mean your internal memory will always stay unused, it just means it will be used (way) less.
Finally, regarding the CyanogenMod Settings location setting, if you understood what I said above, you should now understand that it should actually be set to always install to "Internal", rather than external. However, there's a bug in this that you should be advised, that not all apps will respect this setting: some apps will install to external regardless of how you've configured that setting (meaning the app will use Froyo/Gingerbread native Apps2SD, hence being installed to the FAT partition of the SDCard). So, when you install a new app, check on app management if it didn't get installed to the SDCard, and move it to the internal memory if that's the case. For these kind of apps, you'll have to do it every time you update the app too.

Thanks, I edited my previos post..
I actually have 3 partitions, a FAT32, an ext2 (maybe it's ext3, but doubt it - partitioned some months ago, so my memory's hazy), and a SWAP - which I should get rid of, but am too lazy.
I understand entirely what you've said, I know that internal is really ext if working, and sd is FAT32 partition.
You see, I'm just new to this rom and have to trial and error until I understand, with miui you just flashed the rom and the a2sd scripts and didn't bother again (maybe only to move an app that installed to FAT partition). But it seems CM7 is simply just to flash the rom and you're good to go. But as I was pondering in my previous post...is there any way to move dalvik cache to ext?
Thanks for putting up with me..I'm almost there.
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d.casper.b said:
Thanks, I edited my previos post..
I actually have 3 partitions, a FAT32, an ext2 (maybe it's ext3, but doubt it - partitioned some months ago, so my memory's hazy), and a SWAP - which I should get rid of, but am too lazy.
I understand entirely what you've said, I know that internal is really ext if working, and sd is FAT32 partition.
You see, I'm just new to this rom and have to trial and error until I understand, with miui you just flashed the rom and the a2sd scripts and didn't bother again (maybe only to move an app that installed to FAT partition). But it seems CM7 is simply just to flash the rom and you're good to go. But as I was pondering in my previous post...is there any way to move dalvik cache to ext?
Thanks for putting up with me..I'm almost there.
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in the market you will find an app called s2e which moves app data, davlik cache to sd

also link2sd also free's up more space and makes cm7 snappier

please don't install such things to CM7 for Milestone unless you know what you are doing and you are able to resolve conflicts with the existing scripts
dalvik-cache is already moved automatically
if you want to free more space in /data, enable lib2ext to move native libraries to ext - it's mentioned in the changelog for 7.1.2 release
app data itself should not be moved as it can cause instability

d.casper.b said:
Thanks, I edited my previos post..
I actually have 3 partitions, a FAT32, an ext2 (maybe it's ext3, but doubt it - partitioned some months ago, so my memory's hazy), and a SWAP - which I should get rid of, but am too lazy.
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Yeah, get rid of swap, there won't be any use for it (for now anyway) and it's best for you at this point to have a known working structure (two partitions, 1st FAT, 2nd ext3/4) for your SD as you're troubleshooting your problems/questions, it'll make it easier for us too as this will eliminate potential points of failure or inconsistencies. And you should really consider upgrading to a journaled filesystem, either ext3 or ext4. Using ext2 is unreliable because Android doesn't umount the ext partition cleanly on reboot or shutdown, so you may have problems with apps disappearing or misbehaving every other reboot. Using ext3/4 with journal elimitates this problem since the journal is just replayed for the uncleanly umounted partition and the filesystems behaves more consistently.
d.casper.b said:
You see, I'm just new to this rom and have to trial and error until I understand, with miui you just flashed the rom and the a2sd scripts and didn't bother again (maybe only to move an app that installed to FAT partition). But it seems CM7 is simply just to flash the rom and you're good to go. But as I was pondering in my previous post...is there any way to move dalvik cache to ext?
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The apps2ext script built on CM7 should do this by default - you probably already have your dalvik-cache on the ext partition. To check this, go into OR, enter the console and type: "ls /sddata/dalvik-cache" . If it returns a list of files, you've already got the dalvik-cache on your ext partition. Another option is setting the option dalvik.vm.dexopt-cache-only to 1 in the file /system/build.prop . This will put all dalvik-caches (both from user apps and system apps) on the phone's internal cache partition, thus still freeing space on the internal memory but without using the ext partition, but that's not recommended if you install too many apps because the cache partition may run out space and that will spawn all kinds of weird behavior on Android. The safer route is just using the default configuration anyway (user apps dalvik-cache on sd-ext).
Another option to further reduce internal memory use is using lib2ext, that will move user apps native libraries to the ext partition, but the memory gain in this case is dependent on which apps you use and how big their native libraries (if they even have one) are. To activate it, just go into the Terminal app (with Android booted) and type:
$ su
# lib2ext
And reboot. The libraries will be moved to the ext partition during boot. Make sure you have a big enough ext partition to hold everything (apps, dalvik-cache and apps libs) - the size to recommend is very dependent on how many apps you use and how big they are, but I'd say 512Mb would be the bare minimum.
in the market you will find an app called s2e which moves app data, davlik cache to sd
also link2sd also free's up more space and makes cm7 snappier
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DON'T! JUST DON'T! These third-party apps will cause all kinds of problems with CM7 builtin apps2ext.
EDIT: Oh well, Kabaldan already put all my rambling much more succintly than I could... I'm way too talky

well i was jus trying to help.. .anyway guys thanks i guess i won't be needing those apps anymore ...sorry for my noobness

Thank you so much guys!
It seems like it's working. I will check out lib2ext & the other suggestions tonight or over the weekend (on my way to work now).
I must say, I thought the move to CM7 would be a temporary one, but the speed gain is just what I needed, & the tweaks I thought I'd miss I am finding hidden in the settings .
Just wondering on the battery now - but I've been fiddling non-stop.
So let me play a bit more the weekend & I'll merge my ext2 and SWAP partition into one ext3 partition.
Thanks all, and kabaldan for your hard work on this rom.
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Just as I was on my way...
Everything's running fine, A2SD works. But now, I partitioned my SD card with a 2nd partition (ext3, it was ext2), but now widgets are not loading. Checked the apps install location, and it's 'internal', ie. ext3. I never had this before. I think maybe it's due to the filesystem now?
EDIT: Ok, ext2 is doing the same. I can't keep starting from scratch the whole time guys.
EDIT2: It's now suddenly working! Just have a Fat32 and an Ext3 partition. But I don't understand because it's been setup like this twice before with no success. I'll hold thumbs!
PS, CyanogenMod is quite up my alley now, speed is awesome and I'm happy.
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[Q] no internal space after installing rom

Need help and can't post in the thread required because i'm new. I installed explorerman's rom xenon system http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048312 which installs great but after install and rebooting several times I still have an internal storage issue. I have a 32gig SD partitioned with a 4gig ext3 partition, when the rom boots I get an error about internal storage then I get an error about the m2sd app saying the script is either missing or out of date. I follow the instructions and update through m2sd then, after a few minutes reboot the phone. Next it still say's the internal memory is full, 1mb free and m2sd still showing errors with no data moved to the sd-ext. I tried a 4gig sd card with a 1 gig ext3 partition but still the same problem.
I am doing as said and wiping dalvik cache etc. I have a backup of the ONLY rom that works which is based on android 4.03 but I want the original setup back on the phone so any help needed and please, no stupid comments or immature comments as I have seen from some posts here. i'm not a child but at the same time I am not a tech-head, thanks.

scotslad2k said:
Need help and can't post in the thread required because i'm new. I installed explorerman's rom xenon system http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048312 which installs great but after install and rebooting several times I still have an internal storage issue. I have a 32gig SD partitioned with a 4gig ext3 partition, when the rom boots I get an error about internal storage then I get an error about the m2sd app saying the script is either missing or out of date. I follow the instructions and update through m2sd then, after a few minutes reboot the phone. Next it still say's the internal memory is full, 1mb free and m2sd still showing errors with no data moved to the sd-ext. I tried a 4gig sd card with a 1 gig ext3 partition but still the same problem.
I am doing as said and wiping dalvik cache etc. I have a backup of the ONLY rom that works which is based on android 4.03 but I want the original setup back on the phone so any help needed and please, no stupid comments or immature comments as I have seen from some posts here. i'm not a child but at the same time I am not a tech-head, thanks.
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try other scripts which is supported by that rom

bloodhound42 said:
try other scripts which is supported by that rom
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I wouldn't know how to, I just trust the developer and since the rom does everything I wouldn't know where to look. the last time I tried editing a rom zip, it wouldn't install because it didn't match the original signature of the zip file. Also, because I am a new forum user, I can't contact the developer directly for some help.

Make 1 gb partition(Enough)! As the script uses 100mb of internal for every 500mb sd-ext....so making 3gb is useless.
Plus while configuring the app disable safe mode and see if that helps

Parth_14 said:
Make 1 gb partition(Enough)! As the script uses 100mb of internal for every 500mb sd-ext....so making 3gb is useless.
Plus while configuring the app disable safe mode and see if that helps
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Will try that, thankyou

Nope, didn't work, wiped the SD card and made a 1gig ext3 partition, also disabled safe-mode as suggested, still loads EVERYTHING to internal memory with 1mb left, it also comes up with a busybox error and a script error on first boot. I went into M2SD and set apps, data and delvik to use the sd-ext partiotn and waited, nothing, so rebooted the phone, nothing. All with the same message of 'The current status does not match your settings for this option' under Applications, Data and Delvik Cache, also 'Could not set the sdcard readahead' which is set to 512 as default.

scotslad2k said:
Nope, didn't work, wiped the SD card and made a 1gig ext3 partition, also disabled safe-mode as suggested, still loads EVERYTHING to internal memory with 1mb left, it also comes up with a busybox error and a script error on first boot. I went into M2SD and set apps, data and delvik to use the sd-ext partiotn and waited, nothing, so rebooted the phone, nothing. All with the same message of 'The current status does not match your settings for this option' under Applications, Data and Delvik Cache, also 'Could not set the sdcard readahead' which is set to 512 as default.
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Try this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907663
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try this
use INT2EXT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
download the zip file and open it file manager using mobile (root explorer..)(set r/w permission) then find init.d folder inside INT2EXT script copy and put it into
system->etc-> init.d
paste it..
then reboot

Seems like a nand burn flash mimicm9 and see internal memory and tell without any scripts
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scotslad2k said:
Need help and can't post in the thread required because i'm new. I installed explorerman's rom xenon system http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048312 which installs great but after install and rebooting several times I still have an internal storage issue. I have a 32gig SD partitioned with a 4gig ext3 partition, when the rom boots I get an error about internal storage then I get an error about the m2sd app saying the script is either missing or out of date. I follow the instructions and update through m2sd then, after a few minutes reboot the phone. Next it still say's the internal memory is full, 1mb free and m2sd still showing errors with no data moved to the sd-ext. I tried a 4gig sd card with a 1 gig ext3 partition but still the same problem.
I am doing as said and wiping dalvik cache etc. I have a backup of the ONLY rom that works which is based on android 4.03 but I want the original setup back on the phone so any help needed and please, no stupid comments or immature comments as I have seen from some posts here. i'm not a child but at the same time I am not a tech-head, thanks.
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u have to freshly install the xenon and after installing and completing setup open mount2sd and it will give u a window says install busybox and install the script somthing like that ...click on the both and after green check mark reboot ur pico....if the problem still there then check the partition ...use recovery to partition ur sd card.

scotslad2k said:
Need help and can't post in the thread required because i'm new. I installed explorerman's rom xenon system http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048312 which installs great but after install and rebooting several times I still have an internal storage issue. I have a 32gig SD partitioned with a 4gig ext3 partition, when the rom boots I get an error about internal storage then I get an error about the m2sd app saying the script is either missing or out of date. I follow the instructions and update through m2sd then, after a few minutes reboot the phone. Next it still say's the internal memory is full, 1mb free and m2sd still showing errors with no data moved to the sd-ext. I tried a 4gig sd card with a 1 gig ext3 partition but still the same problem.
I am doing as said and wiping dalvik cache etc. I have a backup of the ONLY rom that works which is based on android 4.03 but I want the original setup back on the phone so any help needed and please, no stupid comments or immature comments as I have seen from some posts here. i'm not a child but at the same time I am not a tech-head, thanks.
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Why you don't install cm10.1 beta 3. Its great and cool and stable to. Based on 4.2.2. Android os install link2sd and make both partition of fat32 by mini tool and don I have this problems when install the ROM you have then after I do this I have 8 GB SD card 1 GB fat 32 partition and other for data. Alls going good smooth stable. And a have 43 app installed on my pico and remaining internal memory showing 87 mb my good suggestion is to change ROM .
And give a time to the developers of (explorerman's rom xenon system) to make the ROM best
sent from my HTC explorer having ROM cm10.1 beta 3.
using xda app the best developers site for android :thumbup:

rajat836 said:
u have to freshly install the xenon and after installing and completing setup open mount2sd and it will give u a window says install busybox and install the script somthing like that ...click on the both and after green check mark reboot ur pico....if the problem still there then check the partition ...use recovery to partition ur sd card.
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Did all that, I always do a complete clean of the phone before I try anything but still not working. I think, because it was a T Mobile HTC Explorer rather than a generic one that there is something hard coded into it. I see through the forums so many people having no problems at all but they have generic phones rather than unlocked phones from service providers. I am not a programmer so this is just guess work and from experience, I can't even restore the phone using an RUU because it will only accept a T-Mob one. If there a way to replace the entire software on the phone then I would but it's programmed into the chips at factory level (low level) since the phone was produced by HTC for T-Mobile. If the phone had been bought directly from HTC then there would be less problems. So far, I haven't found a single rom that doesn't have some kind of problem with this phone.
Thanks for all the suggestions but I'm guessing it's time to 'pick a window' for it and just save up for a more modern phone than trying to keep this HTC Pensioner going.

SD Card partitioning on MTD ROMs

Hi There
Can someone explain what he\she did to partition SD card, and make all apps get installed on it.
Please note :
1. I don't want to use Titanium backup for this usage. I don't have the paid version and I'm tired of doing this one app at a time.
2. I saw some guides on the net, but they were all for GB.
(partition the microSD on PC using minitool) -can we use ext4 on our MTD ROMs ? What is the 1st partition for ? and the 2nd ?
(install busybox and super user) - Is it still needed ? (MIUI for example has LBE as su).
(install Link2SD) - Is it always in memory ?
(reboot and put partitioned SD card)
(Define Link2SD)
3. I also saw swapper instructions but I can manage with 170MB free RAM memory I get after removing all unnecessary system apps, and I remember ppl saying then that it kills the SDCard very quickly.
If someone has a clear guide or instructions that he knows work, that will be nice.
Thanks in advance.

Step 1. Partition your SD card to have a sd-ext partition. This can definitely be ext2 or FAT16. Anything else depends on your kernel. Most of them do support ext3 and 4, but... start with something fairly basic.
Regarding recoveries:
TWRP has always failed for me on this, so I'd avoid that.
This may be doable in CWM. I've seen reference to that newer versions of CWM removed the partition option, so you might need to flash an ICS ROM with an older kernel, repartition, and then flash back to the one you want.
Also note that if you use CWM to repartition, your SD-card will be wiped. So do a backup first.
Step 2. Install Mounts2SD. Either from XDA or the Play Store. Even if you do take it from the Play Store to get update notifications, I highly suggest grabbing the recovery script from the XDA thread so that you can get back your shifted applications without needing to re-download and install M2SD, since it likes to be on internal which means... shifted off.
Step 3. Open Mounts2SD. Grant SU rights at whatever point it asks for it during step 3. Hit the menu button. Go to Application Settings. Install the Startup Script. Tell it to use the built-in busybox as well, so that you don't need to install anything or worry about it failing. Back out of the Application Settings.
Step 4. Press on the Wrench to go into the actual specific settings. I currently have forced Cache, 1% Storage Threshold, Applications are the only bit moved, the File System Check is on and using the Ext4 Driver, 128KB Deadline for Internal and 4096 with Deadline for External, and Safe Mode is disabled. But decide on what you want yourself, set it, go back to the Eye to see your current info.
Step 5. Reboot.
Step 6. Wait 1-30 minutes for it to finish moving all your stuff around.
Step 7. Unlock your phone, open Mounts2SD, and make sure everything looks pretty on that first 'Eye' info tab. If you like it then close Mounts2SD and keep going on your merry way. If you don't like it or you've done something like offload your data and now your phone is wretchedly slow, go to the Wrench, change your settings, go back to the Eye, and reboot again. Repeat until satisfied.

I thought it would be simplier.
A few more questions:
1. If I partition SD on PC, then I don't need any partitioning on recovery so it should work fine even on TWRP or advanced CWMs. Am I right?
2. Why do I need scripts for? Isn't the app enough?
3. Why should/could it possibly slow down my device? TB 'move to SD' for all doesn't slow my device what so ever.
4. How and where do I see what partition is used for what?
5. How much RAM does the app take?
6. Have you tried other apps link2sd or something CM has built in I think.?
Thanks.
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New answers to new questions.
1. Skip step 1 if you've done it on your PC. I just suggested recovery as that's easy... if you've made your sd-ext partition on the PC, step 1 is done.
2. No clue on Link2SD. I use Mounts2SD instead since it lets me set things. It probably does the same thing though and sets a init.d script that gets run during startup.
3. True. For some reason though having all your data moved to sd-ext makes our phone go to a crawl. Same if you move off the dalvik.
4. That's in Mounts2SD. No clue how you can see if you're using Link2SD.
5. For Mounts2SD, none while it's being used, since it just runs as a startup script. The app is just to control the script.
6. Not successfully. I had tried 5 or 6 different apps back a year ago or so when I first started playing with sd-ext and Mounts2SD was the best and free, so... never looked back after that. Now you can also do some system-flag tweaking if you want to donate, but the sd-ext stuff is all free.

I was able to successfully partition SD and use mount2sd on 4.3 SlimBean.
however, it was rather slow.
CM 10.1 and CM10.2 by DJL. did not allow me to partition nor did they recognize SlimBean's partition even if I replaced them kernel (to NilTMT).
I'm currently using CM10.1 which is stable as a daily driver and manually swapping apps with TB, I hate it, but this is the best combination I've come so far.
I sold my wife's SGS4G and upgraded her to SGS3 and hopefully in a year I will do the same. it had its moments, but on the bottom line it's a pretty ****ty phone with its lack of internal mem...but hey, it drove so many of us to go deeper and deeper trying to understand and made us more tecnolgical and solution oriented.

Mounts2SD worked for me on CM10.1, so not sure why it failed for you. Ah well.

A few things I have found...
Yes, you can partition on Windows, but you're really asking for trouble. It's not too bad download Ubuntu or the like and you can boot off a USB stick without touching your Windows install.
The TeamAcid kernels that I know of handle ext2/3/4 file systems. All kinds of arguments as to which are better. I personally use ext4 and don't find it obviously "slow" for the way I use my phone.
That said, what the boot scripts (which are part of a flashed "kernel" for the SGS4G) actually do with a "special" partition is another story. In some cases the first stages of booting will look for special partitions and mount them in pre-configured places. For example, the second partition of the removable card might be mounted on /sd-ext/ in many CyanogenMod ROMs. Many (most?) SGS4G ROMs don't have these "special" mount rules defined.
Moving an app to SD using the "native" approach just moves the app and none of its data to the SD card. It won't for example, move 25 MB of mail from /data/data to your microSD
Moving an app to SD (or anywhere else) doesn't keep it from generating its classes in /data/dalvik-cache -- It isn't "free" to have an app on SD as far as internal storage goes, even if it doesn't write any data.
Moving an app to SD will absolutely slow down your boot time. It does it by creating a file that contains a file system that then gets read and mounted at boot time. You can watch the parade of them getting mounted using adb logcat. It can take a minute or two to mount them all. Once mounted, that double layer of file systems shouldn't slow you down too much, since it is basically a read-only kind of thing.
Scripts are required since you need to be able to "fake out" the operating system as to where things are stored for anything (except if you just use the native app to SD method). In most cases you need new partitions mounted before the Android part of the OS starts running.
Some scripts are more robust than others.
TitaniumBackup (paid version) has a way to move data to an external partition. It works like a charm for me (64 GB Sandisk UHS-1 / Class 10 microSD). It was very tweaky for me to get it to recognize the ext4 partition the first time. It can bulk-move app data to the partition. I don't know which, if any, of the other scripts move the data to an external partition.
On my phone, an ext4 file system can be significantly faster than the internal yaffs, especially for write. Alas, it usually seems to be read that is a killer for most things in an well-written app. On my phone, yaffs can be faster than ext4 for short reads. Who knows how this would play out in real-world usage.
Other things that TitaniumBackup can do that help free up internal storage, at least in the paid version, are:
Dalvik cache cleanup
Integrate system Dalvik cache into ROM
Integrate update into ROM
Convert to system app

I can confirm Link2SD works where Mount2SD fails, which is an ext3 partitioned sd-ext on AOKP. it doesn't get any simpler than that.
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