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So i am planing on selling my G1 to a friend, now I told him I will root his phone, but heres the thing, I want to unlock it for him since he uses at&t, that I can already do
But I wish to root his phone but not have a custom build, Since most Iv tryed crash more then the phone should and he has a 2gb sd card so he can't do apps on sd
is it possible, and once again ill state it,
1)unlocked
2)root w/ superuser
3)No custom build or if I have to,do a good non apps on sd thats very very very stable
4)Donut (latest android version)

it is very possible to do app2sd on a 2g card. it's not the best, but it is extremely possible. i ran my phone with a2sd on a 2g card for several months and it worked perfectly fine.

I dunno if this will work, and I might be totally just talking crazy, but if you didn't partition your sd card, i don't think it should use a2sd, since i guess to run it, it looks for that second partition? So just like a regular stock sd card without any other partitions should let him use just the regular memory. And on that note, enomther's roms are pretty close to stock, and i'm sure your friend wouldn't mind those extra little additions. Just a suggestion. Hope it helps!

eessel said:
I dunno if this will work, and I might be totally just talking crazy, but if you didn't partition your sd card, i don't think it should use a2sd, since i guess to run it, it looks for that second partition? So just like a regular stock sd card without any other partitions should let him use just the regular memory. And on that note, enomther's roms are pretty close to stock, and i'm sure your friend wouldn't mind those extra little additions. Just a suggestion. Hope it helps!
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sounds about right to me. if there's no ext partition on the card, it can't use apps2sd.
doesn't enomther have just a base donut with just root? no fancy stuff?

grandomegabosses said:
sounds about right to me. if there's no ext partition on the card, it can't use apps2sd.
doesn't enomther have just a base donut with just root? no fancy stuff?
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well, I think there's under the hood stuff to make it run a bit faster, but apart from that, it's pretty close to stock. And like I said, his friend shouldn't complain about the extras, or else maybe he doesn't deserve it. lol.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
These are standard OTA roms w/ root.
That should cover all you need.

tanner2007 said:
...he has a 2gb sd card so he can't do apps on sd
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And what is a problem to use app2sd on 2gb card? I use stock 1gb sd card for a2sd and everything is working fine.

Even if your friend only runs a 2gig card with just a 150meg ext partition still better than whats on the phone itself and is hardly a noticable loss.
As already mentioned on here Enomthers base rom and the 2.3.3 ext pack are pretty close to stock with a few improvements and I've been running it hard for over a month and never had any problems or issuse's and if you use Amon RA's 1.5.2 recovery image your blazing fella. I switch roms like my underwear at the moment and the nandroid + ext backup on the recovery image brings me back to exactly how is was before switching! Tis genius!

holysmokesbatty said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
These are standard OTA roms w/ root.
That should cover all you need.
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I need root, not without =] unless w/ means with? lol can someone clarify?
shadowch31 said:
Even if your friend only runs a 2gig card with just a 150meg ext partition still better than whats on the phone itself and is hardly a noticable loss.
As already mentioned on here Enomthers base rom and the 2.3.3 ext pack are pretty close to stock with a few improvements and I've been running it hard for over a month and never had any problems or issuse's and if you use Amon RA's 1.5.2 recovery image your blazing fella. I switch roms like my underwear at the moment and the nandroid + ext backup on the recovery image brings me back to exactly how is was before switching! Tis genius!
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I dont care about features, if it has root, and no crashing, im good apps2sd is a plus so tell me more about this?
and lets say if i restarted my root process, how would i do it? the guides all have JF old roms in the tuts, idk what to install first after the guide
for everyone else. thanks much

Cyanogen -> Super D w/o wipe and MicroSD upgrade

Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
Also I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (posibly faster) microSD card. What is the best way of doing this without losing any data/apps? Would it be nand+ext backup from recovery, then partition new microSD same way, and drag over nand+ext file and restore? Or is it going to be a two step process, of partitioning and reflashing new microSD, and using a third party app like mybackup to restore apps?
thanks

If it's not broken now, it's probably fine. If you run into problems though, do the wipe.
As for the SD, I use a Linux boot CD (Ubuntu Installer CD) to partition and copy the SD contents. I just used 2 SD readers and copied directly between the cards. It worked very well for me and the phone didn't know the difference. Doing a nand+ext, partitioning the new card, then restoring would likely work for apps and such, but /sdcard (the FAT32 partition) won't be restored. You can use just about anything to copy that partition though.

thanks man. gonna go get new microSD today. I hear sandisk is best quality for accuracy in class claims. any other suggestions? people always tell me microSD's over ebay from generic manufacturers in china rarely match their advertised class ranking. Any one agree that notion?

shawndaivari said:
Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
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Holy crap.. it worked! Thanks for posting that you tried it w/success. I just flashed Super D's 1.10.3 w/out any issue.
Now to mess around with Super D for the 1st time

remind me how this is android development

Well part of developing is finding out different ways to do things, so he found a compatibility. Good enough?

Flashin cyan over superD isnt suprising since its basically a themed rom to flash over the rooted defanged roms

Same TREE branch
in theory any rom based off Cyanogen's git tree would flash over CM just fine
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shawndaivari said:
Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
Also I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (posibly faster) microSD card. What is the best way of doing this without losing any data/apps? Would it be nand+ext backup from recovery, then partition new microSD same way, and drag over nand+ext file and restore? Or is it going to be a two step process, of partitioning and reflashing new microSD, and using a third party app like mybackup to restore apps?
thanks
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The best way for me is to turn off the phone, put new SD in and if your have RA-amon's recovery you can partition with that, and then toggle USB. Plug your old SD into your computer with SD-reader or the like, I use a USB-reader. Then you copy old SD to new. Remember once you partition your card it becomes the life of your phone, your apps are stored in your partition. So' everthing that was on the old card needs to copied to the new one or your going to have problems. Nandroid backs up your rom state, not your SD. As for SD's I would go with kingston, I've tried quite a few and kingston's have never let me down. Trust me I've been with this root thing from the beginning, when we rooted through Telnet and partition from console in recovery and ADB. I've root over 20 phones. I just rooted my moms Samsung Moment. Follow instuctions and you don't have problems. I would'nt make a habit of flashing without a wipe, I wipe data, dalvik and ext, just to be safe. Use Backup for root users, and then you can restore on your new rom, so you don't have to go through installing all your apps.

shawndaivari said:
Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
Also I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (posibly faster) microSD card. What is the best way of doing this without losing any data/apps? Would it be nand+ext backup from recovery, then partition new microSD same way, and drag over nand+ext file and restore? Or is it going to be a two step process, of partitioning and reflashing new microSD, and using a third party app like mybackup to restore apps?
thanks
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wait wait wait...your tellin' me...we can flash superD over cyanogen without doin; the whole partition thing!...without any problems? or do i have to do all that before?...

Can I root and flash a new ROM without an SD card?

Do I have to have an SD to flash a new rom on the G? Mine will be here today but I won't get my SD card til the end of the week. I was hoping to wipe it and make it usable so I don't have a frustrating night playing with it.
Crap! This should have been in General, not in Development. Feel free to move it for my stupidity.

It has internal storage that mounts and looks like an sd card to the device. It's 16gb worth and you can use it to flash roms. So to answer your question, no you do not.

One caveat: If you flash to any mods, I would highly recommend having a microSD card on hand. Many of us have had issues where we get stuck in a reboot loop and the only way to re-flash is to use the microSD.
If you have clockworkmod, this is not a problem as you can have as many update.zip files as you want, and clockworkmod can just be directed to them.

roebeet said:
One caveat: If you flash to any mods, I would highly recommend having a microSD card on hand. Many of us have had issues where we get stuck in a reboot loop and the only way to re-flash is to use the microSD.
If you have clockworkmod, this is not a problem as you can have as many update.zip files as you want, and clockworkmod can just be directed to them.
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Thank you roebeet. I am looking forward to putting TnT Lite on it. Is it possible to use the same card that I use in my Samsung Captivate just to flash it? I don't want to get things mixed up. I have another card on the way but not til Friday and I'm pretty sure I'll be disappointed with it stock.

DraglineDrummer said:
Thank you roebeet. I am looking forward to putting TnT Lite on it. Is it possible to use the same card that I use in my Samsung Captivate just to flash it? I don't want to get things mixed up. I have another card on the way but not til Friday and I'm pretty sure I'll be disappointed with it stock.
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Yes, that sdcard would be fine...

Couldn't one just open an adb shell and rename the zip as needed to flash whatever?

vaelek said:
Couldn't one just open an adb shell and rename the zip as needed to flash whatever?
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Not if you system is in a reboot loop - that's why I would recommend that anyone modding should have a microSD card on hand + a way to copy files to it from a PC.
Let's put it this way: you bought a $375+ device that you are now going to modify. Isn't it worth another 10 bucks (or less) to get a 2GB microSD as a backout in case it has problems?

roebeet said:
Not if you system is in a reboot loop - that's why I would recommend that anyone modding should have a microSD card on hand + a way to copy files to it from a PC.
Let's put it this way: you bought a $375+ device that you are now going to modify. Isn't it worth another 10 bucks (or less) to get a 2GB microSD as a backout in case it has problems?
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Good thing I did. Everything went flawlessly at first and then after about an hour or so I rebooted and got stuck in a reboot loop. I think I'm ok now but we'll see. I really want to put the Tegra updates on there but am not feeling ballsy yet. I read too much about people having issues with it.
Thank you again to everyone who has helped and especially to you roebeet.

sd card

so now that we have a working sd card is there any way to change the save location of the browser and camera to the new working sd card?
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

is there anything special to get the SD slot working? Mine still doesn't seem to be doing anything.

Well, in my opinion, which may be wrong...and probably is.
The new sd mod mounts the actual sd as /sdcard2/.
The problem i see with this is all the apps are looking for /sdcard/.
Now I think the best way to handle it would be to symlink /sdcard/ and /sdcard2/ as one volume.
The problem with that is that the volume manager would probably freak the **** out when you take your sdcard out of the device.
I don't know though, maybe bigrush or whoever got it working has this thought out better than I would have - but I am a software developer, not a kernel developer. That **** hurts my head.
Right now, i don't have an extra SD card worth my time of putting in (biggest extra I have is 8 gigs).
The only point I really see in it at the moment is extra space available from a file manager.
I am not sure if media scanner has to be modified to include the new directory to pic up on pictures, movies, and audio.

06types said:
is there anything special to get the SD slot working? Mine still doesn't seem to be doing anything.
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Lol root your xoom and flash the new tiamat 1.3.0 kernel

oh, maybe ill just break down and root it... I didn't really see any point until now with the lack of roms out for this so far.

I have already flashed my xoom, with the original one button flash. The new version does not have a way like the original to just one button the kernel. Will I have to re-root everything and go from there or will it sense that I am already rooted and take me to changing the kernel to be able to use the sdcard?

floridatank said:
I have already flashed my xoom, with the original one button flash. The new version does not have a way like the original to just one button the kernel. Will I have to re-root everything and go from there or will it sense that I am already rooted and take me to changing the kernel to be able to use the sdcard?
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if you use the newest one click method with tiamat 1.3.1 you will be wiping your xoom's data back to stock as well. which means you'll have to setup your xoom again and reinstall all your apps again.
if you want to just flash the newest kernel w/out wiping the data just follow the instructions on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978013

[Q] New G2X: Should I mod/root?

I got a new LG P999 (I think that's the G2X). I'm new to Android but I'm not sure if I should root/mod or not.
Is there really any significant benefits from modding (like speed or stability) or it's just to make your Android flashier?
Also, what mod would be best to go for? And if someone could link me to a beginner tutorial on how to mod (with simpler terminology; I only found some with terminology like NANDroid, clockwork recovery, etc... which I don't really understand), that would be much appreciated.
Hope someone can help, thanks!

kefloxin said:
I got a new LG P999 (I think that's the G2X). I'm new to Android but I'm not sure if I should root/mod or not.
Is there really any significant benefits from modding (like speed or stability) or it's just to make your Android flashier?
Also, what mod would be best to go for? And if someone could link me to a beginner tutorial on how to mod (with simpler terminology; I only found some with terminology like NANDroid, clockwork recovery, etc... which I don't really understand), that would be much appreciated.
Hope someone can help, thanks!
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Well, rooting/modding gives you every benefit out there. Battery life, speed, options, features, the list goes on. Flashing ROM's is basically 99% the reason why people root or install a custom recovery on their phones. NANdroid, Clockwork MOD, etc are basically the basis and the stuff that you need to know about rooting. Since you're new I suggest you read a lot first and get to know what those terminologies are. ClockWork is a custom recovery that enables you to flash a custom ROM onto your phone.
Here is the G2x Bible. That's a reference guide to most, if not everything, that you need to know.
Here is the NVFlash method that you need to do to install Clockwork onto your G2x. You don't really need root for the G2x, just install Clockwork via that guide and you'll be good to go.
Remember: Read, read, and read.

Thanks for your reply! Those links helped me a lot. A few questions though:
1) If I don't have an external SD card, will I be able to put an external SD card without problems later? And can I re-flash for the external SD card support if desired?
2) Once I'm in the ClockworkMod Recovery, how do I put the ROM on my phone? (Flash is the correct terminology if I'm not mistaken).
3) Which ROM or mod should I go with? From the looks of it, a lot of people use CyanogenMod, but is there one that's most stable/fast?
Thanks again for your answer.

Here's another guide on NVFlashing.
These are my 3 favorite ROM's. And I'm sure most of the G2x people would agree as well.
Eagle's Blood: Based on LG's stock 2.3.3 Gingerbread.
Weapon G2x: Again, based on LG's stock 2.3.3 Gingerbread, but with Whitehawx's many tweaks and features.
And of course, CyanogenMOD 7 Nightlies: It's based on Google's AOSP, but the CM team has added in hundreds of tweaks that makes the user experience the best you can ever get on Android.
My favorite is CM but I suggest you try all 3 to see which one you like the best.
Yes, you can slip in an SD card after you've flashed if you want. Just follow the instructions carefully on how to NVFlash, there's even a YouTube video on how to do it.
Once you're in CWM, I suggest you do a NANDroid backup to backup your current ROM. Then do the following steps.
1. Wipe Data
2. Wipe Cache
3. Wipe Dalvik Cache (within Advanced)
4. Then go into mounts and format your /system
5. Then proceed to flashing your desired ROM.
Here's a quick video on how to flash a ROM.
But note; that video is how to flash a ROM on a myTouch 4G, just ignore the ROM's I showed in that video as it's for the MT4G. But the Clockwork MOD that you see there is just like the one for the G2x, except now the letters are blue. Do as I did in that video by wiping everything. Only thing I left out is formating /system since it wasn't needed on the MT4G. So don't forget to do that on your G2x.
Also, do you have Froyo or Gingerbread right now?

If you need any help with your g2x just drop me an email at [email protected]. I will be happy to help with any questions you may have.
Sent from the fastest g2x in the world

Thanks again for your awesome reply mackster248.
To answer your question, I'm currently running Froyo and I'm not actually with T-Mobile. I'm in Quebec with Videotron but I read it's the same phone. The phone model I have is LG P999DW.
I think I'll go with CM V7.1.0.1 as my first ROM (the nightlies may not be as stable as I want them to be). Do you think that would be an okay ROM as a first?
So just to confirm, this is what I will be doing as a whole process:
First, I will follow the NVFlashing guide which will allow me to use ClockworkMod Recovery. Next, I'll do a backup with NANDroid (which I assume is an option in CWM). Following that, I follow the wiping steps you listed (same as your video). Is that correct or am I missing something?
Thanks again!
EDIT: So I followed the NVFlash steps and it worked fine until I tried to boot in Recover by holding Vol Down + Power, but it doesn't seem to do anything... I can boot up the phone fine normally by holding the power button though. Is there a reason booting into recovery wouldn't work?
EDIT 2: Ah, nevermind. It works after I took out the battery and tried again.
EDIT 3: I haven't wiped my data yet in the recovery, but it seems I need an SD card so I can load the zip of the ROM I want. Is there a way to load the ROM from my computer or will I need to get an SD card first? Also, I would like to know if I should root as well? Does it make a difference? If not, why do people root before flashing?

Do you mind making a video of all the steps you did in exact order? also people root because most phones just use ROM manager to flash clockworkmod right from ROM Manger, but we are using NVFlash so we dont technically need it. Also new to the G2x, from (wind Mobile, i believe its the same one as the videotron P999-DW)
but im so scared to flash lol i had a vibrant i9000-m die on me before :3

Well, I can't make a video of what I did since I don't have a spare camera. All I did up until now is follow the NVFlashing guide to get ClockworkMod Recovery. It's not very hard to do actually.
I'm apparently supposed to wipe data, etc. now but I don't want to do that because steps later say that I need to flash from the SD card which I don't have. So I need to know now whether I need an SD card to flash a ROM on the phone? I've ordered an SD card which might take a while to get but after I get it, I also would like to know whether I need to root to flash? (since ROM manager says I need to root to use it, maybe I need to root to flash a ROM via CWM as well?)
I downloaded ROM manager and it says I need to root my phone for it to function. I also tried "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" via the ROM manager which gives me an error as well.
So if someone could let me know whether 1) I can flash without an SD card and 2) whether I need to root to flash via CWM, that would be much appreciated. Thanks!

The newest version of CWM Recovery requires a physical SD to put the rom backups on. Go get yourself one. The smaller capacities are very inexpensive now, but it is nice to have a larger one if you can afford it. Each backup is very large, so a small card would run out of space quickly if you don't offload them to your computer or another storage medium. If you want to backup to the internal sd then install the older version (4.0.1.5) of CWM that support internal sd only, then you don't need a physical sd card. That is why TGA_Gunnman put that version back into his flasher.

With the latest CWM and a g2x and NO sd card, I was able to root, and flash roms. Just select the flash zip from internal SD option in CWM. I did not backup though.

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With the latest CWM and a g2x and NO sd card, I was able to root, and flash roms. Just select the flash zip from internal SD option in CWM. I did not backup though.
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Wouldn't the flash zip be deleted after you wipe the data, etc.?
Also, do I need to root for flash via CWM to work?

No just place it in the root.

kefloxin said:
Wouldn't the flash zip be deleted after you wipe the data, etc.?
Also, do I need to root for flash via CWM to work?
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So you're saying that if I place the ROM on the root of the phone, it won't be deleted once I wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and format my /system?
I would just like to make sure as I don't want to be stuck without a phone until I get an SD card and no backup.
Thanks

kefloxin said:
So you're saying that if I place the ROM on the root of the phone, it won't be deleted once I wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and format my /system?
I would just like to make sure as I don't want to be stuck without a phone until I get an SD card and no backup.
Thanks
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If you were factory resetting a Samsung the internal SD is also wiped; but thankfully, LG does not do that. When you do a factory reset on the P999 all it does is wipe the data and cache partitions. The internal sd is left alone. So yes you can place the zip package on the internal sd, reset and then flash it. It also doesn't have to be on the root. In CWM if you select install zip from sd card, you can then choose external or internal sd and navigate to any folder and zip file you want to flash. Have fun!

I was able to install the old CWM with internal SD card support and I used that to make a backup and flash the ROM successfully. Everything seems to be awesome so far except that I can't use USB mass storage from the O/S. I turn on USB mass storage and my computer doesn't detect it. The only way to make it work is going to CWM and mounting the USB. Anyone know how I would be able to make it work through the O/S again?
I also can't install Swype without an external SD card, but I'll have one soon so that's not a big worry.
Aside from those things, I think it's pretty cool.
Thanks to everyone who helped.

Have fun bud. No phone is perfect, but the G2x is pretty awesome.
Powered by a G2x

Yeah, it's awesome. But anyone know why USB mass storage doesn't show the removable drive on my computer? I have to go into CWM and mount it to make it work, but I would prefer to be able to do it via the O/S.
Thanks for all your help though guys, you guys are awesome

kefloxin said:
Yeah, it's awesome. But anyone know why USB mass storage doesn't show the removable drive on my computer? I have to go into CWM and mount it to make it work, but I would prefer to be able to do it via the O/S.
Thanks for all your help though guys, you guys are awesome
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Install the LG Gingerbread drivers. Let me find a link.
Edit: I had the same problem as you, but this fixed that.
http://www.lg-phones.org/t-mobile-g2x-usb-driver.html
Powered by a G2x

It doesn't seem to work. I installed the drivers via the download link in the link you provided. Didn't work, then I tried to update following the instructions using the LG mobile support tool, and it still doesn't work either. (I've tried on 2 computers btw.)
I'm not sure why it only works via CWM, any other suggestions?

kefloxin said:
It doesn't seem to work. I installed the drivers via the download link in the link you provided. Didn't work, then I tried to update following the instructions using the LG mobile support tool, and it still doesn't work either. (I've tried on 2 computers btw.)
I'm not sure why it only works via CWM, any other suggestions?
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Could be USB connection type is set wrong internally. See if there is some setting in CM7 for it. On a stock rom you can go into LG Hidden menu and set USB to automatic.