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APPS2SD For Beginners

Hello everyone. I am branching over to XDA from Androidforums in need of more guidance.
First, let me say I HAVE searched for instruction to my post, I HAVE NOT been successful with any of my reading. I just closed three separate windows of firefox with a total of near 75 tabs, all related to apps2sd, but none giving the specific instruction I need.
If in reading this you can think of another thread that has my answer, PLEASE post it for me. -much appreciated
If not, please read and help if possible. (I am listing my set up in case it is user specific)
CDMA Hero
Rooted
RA-Heroc v1.2.3 Recovery
Fresh 1.0 Rom
My goal is to initialize and complete the process of setting up apps2sd system today.
I would like to sucessfully have this running and I cannot find any specific guide on "how to". I have however found MANY that speak about it after the fact.
So, please someone tell me what I need to do to set this up. I want apps off device and to have a "swap space (???)" set up.
Can I do this now (after having flashed custom rom) or do I need to start all over, beginning with apps2sd process first and then flashing Rom.
Detailed instructions much appreciated, or a link to appropriate thread.
THANKS!! Rep points for you!!

You just need to partition your SD card as ext2+FAT+swap and reboot. That's all.
This will erase your SD card, so be sure you copy everything off first.

Please edit the title of this thread and take out the [ROM] prefix. This is not a ROM and the title is misleading.
Thanks.
EDIT: Does FreshROM 1.0 have apps2sd? I thought it only supported it if you had it on there previously.
EDIT: Never mind, I just saw this in the FreshROM apps2sd rant post - "Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD. "

watzone69 said:
Please edit the title of this thread and take out the [ROM] prefix. This is not a ROM and the title is misleading.
Thanks.
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Got it, sorry, done.

jonnythan said:
You just need to partition your SD card as ext2+FAT+swap and reboot. That's all.
This will erase your SD card, so be sure you copy everything off first.
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Are you serious, it's that simple?!!! argggh.
Okay, but with a bit more detail... I am rebooting into recovery mode and then doing this? Can you explain with just a tad more detail? thanks!

Haha there is no more detail. Just format your SD card with that option. WAM BAM DONE

I swear I'm not a cop! I just made the same mistake once.
I tried looking for apps2sd info a while back and ran into your same dilemma. I ended up using Modaco's ROM (actually, I used the UNOFFICIAL updated modaco made by obelisk79) because it already had it on there.

TF1984 said:
Are you serious, it's that simple?!!! argggh.
Okay, but with a bit more detail... I am rebooting into recovery mode and then doing this? Can you explain with just a tad more detail? thanks!
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Right in the recovery options there's one that says something like "Format SD card: Ext2+FAT+swap" or something like that. Choose that, then reboot.
I thought Fresh 1.0 had AppsToSD built-in. If it doesn't, this won't actually accomplish anything.

jonnythan said:
Right in the recovery options there's one that says something like "Format SD card: Ext2+FAT+swap" or something like that. Choose that, then reboot.
I thought Fresh 1.0 had AppsToSD built-in. If it doesn't, this won't actually accomplish anything.
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Okay, I found it. Thanks for the help. Is this the same as "swapping" b/c I heard a lot of negative press about swapping only working well for a day.

Tipharet said:
Haha there is no more detail. Just format your SD card with that option. WAM BAM DONE
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Well, I would back up your card first. Just copy everything over to your computer, format your card, reboot your phone and then copy everything back to your SD.

watzone69 said:
Well, I would back up your card first. Just copy everything over to your computer, format your card, reboot your phone and then copy everything back to your SD.
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Yeah I found somewhere that it would obviously erase the card data. I am really trying to figure out if the apps2sd is the same as "swap" since I keep finding bad things about swapping.
Are you using apps2sd?

jonnythan said:
...I thought Fresh 1.0 had AppsToSD built-in. If it doesn't, this won't actually accomplish anything.
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It does.
I went back and read the "APPS2SD Rant" in flipz thread and it says: "Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD".

TF1984 said:
Yeah I found somewhere that it would obviously erase the card data. I am really trying to figure out if the apps2sd is the same as "swap" since I keep finding bad things about swapping.
Are you using apps2sd?
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No, it's not the same as using swap. It works fine, don't worry about it.
AppsToSD works best with a Class 6 card, since the class 6 cards are faster.

TF1984 said:
Yeah I found somewhere that it would obviously erase the card data. I am really trying to figure out if the apps2sd is the same as "swap" since I keep finding bad things about swapping.
Are you using apps2sd?
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Yes, I'm using it. I have read flipzmode's rant about why he doesn't like Apps2SD. I have had no problems with it.
When I ran it with the modaco/obelisk79 ROM it seemed to keep the phone relatively speedy, even with a ton of apps installed. I am using FreshROM 1.0 now and I ended up uninstalling a few apps because of lag.
EDIT: I am not inferring that FreshROM is any slower. I think the problem is on my end! BTW, I am using a 16G class 6 card.

jonnythan said:
No, it's not the same as using swap. It works fine, don't worry about it.
AppsToSD works best with a Class 6 card, since the class 6 cards are faster.
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Unfortunately I think mine is not a class 6, it's just an 8gig standard micro sd. (PNY brand).
Anyway, so i went in recov. mode and formatted to the ext/fat/swap partition. I reloaded my card with previous data. Is that all I need to do? is there no setting I need to monitor or adjust?
and also, will my current apps get pushed to the sd or is there a process I should follow to move them to the sd?

I just did this and it pushed my apps from what I can tell. My internal storage number went from around 90mb used to 52mb. Now my real question is if I wanted to undo this.. what kind of options/headache am I looking at ?

nick325i said:
...Now my real question is if I wanted to undo this.. what kind of options/headache am I looking at ?
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I think reformat is the only way back. Anyone else confirm this?

TF1984 said:
Unfortunately I think mine is not a class 6, it's just an 8gig standard micro sd. (PNY brand).
Anyway, so i went in recov. mode and formatted to the ext/fat/swap partition. I reloaded my card with previous data. Is that all I need to do? is there no setting I need to monitor or adjust?
and also, will my current apps get pushed to the sd or is there a process I should follow to move them to the sd?
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Current apps should get pushed to the SD. To make sure it's working, pull up an adb shell and do:
cd /data/app
pwd
You should see "/system/sd/app" spit back at you.

watzone69 said:
I think reformat is the only way back. Anyone else confirm this?
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Well yeah you would certainly have to reformat. But in addition to that you would need to re-install your apps, since they would have been removed from the card.
I was reading somewhere that you can change a setting to zero which causes the hero to pull the apps back to internal storage, leaving you not needing to re-install. cAn't remember where setting is or where i found it...

jonnythan said:
Current apps should get pushed to the SD. To make sure it's working, pull up an adb shell and do:
cd /data/app
pwd
You should see "/system/sd/app" spit back at you.
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yeah I can't remember how to do all the adb shell junk, oh well.

sd card

so now that we have a working sd card is there any way to change the save location of the browser and camera to the new working sd card?
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is there anything special to get the SD slot working? Mine still doesn't seem to be doing anything.

Well, in my opinion, which may be wrong...and probably is.
The new sd mod mounts the actual sd as /sdcard2/.
The problem i see with this is all the apps are looking for /sdcard/.
Now I think the best way to handle it would be to symlink /sdcard/ and /sdcard2/ as one volume.
The problem with that is that the volume manager would probably freak the **** out when you take your sdcard out of the device.
I don't know though, maybe bigrush or whoever got it working has this thought out better than I would have - but I am a software developer, not a kernel developer. That **** hurts my head.
Right now, i don't have an extra SD card worth my time of putting in (biggest extra I have is 8 gigs).
The only point I really see in it at the moment is extra space available from a file manager.
I am not sure if media scanner has to be modified to include the new directory to pic up on pictures, movies, and audio.

06types said:
is there anything special to get the SD slot working? Mine still doesn't seem to be doing anything.
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Lol root your xoom and flash the new tiamat 1.3.0 kernel

oh, maybe ill just break down and root it... I didn't really see any point until now with the lack of roms out for this so far.

I have already flashed my xoom, with the original one button flash. The new version does not have a way like the original to just one button the kernel. Will I have to re-root everything and go from there or will it sense that I am already rooted and take me to changing the kernel to be able to use the sdcard?

floridatank said:
I have already flashed my xoom, with the original one button flash. The new version does not have a way like the original to just one button the kernel. Will I have to re-root everything and go from there or will it sense that I am already rooted and take me to changing the kernel to be able to use the sdcard?
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if you use the newest one click method with tiamat 1.3.1 you will be wiping your xoom's data back to stock as well. which means you'll have to setup your xoom again and reinstall all your apps again.
if you want to just flash the newest kernel w/out wiping the data just follow the instructions on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978013

[Q] Flashing Rom can't find sd card in recovery.

First off, I have never had a rom for this phone that works well for a long period of time. Every single one slows down eventually and will get random shut downs and other problems. This time, I decided to reflash it to a fresh start and put Valhalla Black edition on it. And I mean completely fresh. I backed up my few files, formatted the sd card, factory reset the phone, and flashed stock KD1 in Odin. Up until this point, everything had been going perfectly fine and the ROM installed just fine. At this point, I put Valhalla onto the sd card to flash and boot up into CWM. This is where I am lost. First, I go straight to "install zip from sd card" and almost get ready to install, but then remember to double check my mounts. Mounts good, but as soon as I select "install from sd card again", I get the error that the sd card can not be mounted. I restarted the recovery and tried to install, and I got all the way to selecting "yes" to install the ROM. But still, Error: can not mount sd card.
So basically I have figured out that I can navigate to the rom and attempt to install before I get the error, or I can just check my mounts and not even get past "install zip from sd card" before I get the error and have to restart the recovery. Could this just be the card's problem and I need a new one, or is it something else? I need help, I am completely lost at this point.
Thanks guys.
EDIT: I may want to add that this same sd card completely crapped out on me about a month ago and I had to reformat it to get it working again.

Also, does anyone else always have their roms slow down after awhile? I would say that the average time for one of my roms to start getting random restarts and constant app closings is about one months time.

Format it on the computer. Fat 32
If that doesn't work try using Panasonics SD card formatting utility.
If that doesn't work maybe try changing voodoo.
Okay I am finished cutting and pasting what I found regarding this issue using search.
Hope one of them helps. If not... utilize the search in the forum. It is pretty neat!
Edit: Wait... do you even have a Galaxy S 4G?

lumin30 said:
Format it on the computer. Fat 32
If that doesn't work try using Panasonics SD card formatting utility.
If that doesn't work maybe try changing voodoo.
Okay I am finished cutting and pasting what I found regarding this issue using search.
Hope one of them helps. If not... utilize the search in the forum. It is pretty neat!
Edit: Wait... do you even have a Galaxy S 4G?
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I formatted it in Fat32 with a 64kb allocation size last night during all the troubles. How would the Panasonics SD card utility change anything? Also, Im a little confused on what you mean by changing voodoo. Enabling/Disabling it?
Yes I have a Galaxy S 4G.

Try following the GB ext4 Starter Pack to potentially fix any problems.
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vgcraze said:
Try following the GB ext4 Starter Pack to potentially fix any problems.
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Ok. Also, I have a question for you. I noticed that you are using your device on AT&T. Did you have constant notifications popping up about a Tmobile contacts backup or anything else? That is another thing that I need to find a way to get rid of.

I am on t-mobile. But I uninstalled t-mobile back up and use google. The Panasonic sd card format worked for somebody else. So did following the gb starter pack. There are a lot of posts regarding this issue. Different things have worked for different people.
System Toolbox is my preferred app to uninstall system apps like t-mobile back up.
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Yup, just use the KJ6 Debloater, or whatever program, to remove the T-Mobile Contact Backups apk
Edit: I just uninstalled T-Mo Backup and Wifi Calling using the debloater right now
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Thanks for all the replies! Ill attack the phone again in awhile and see what I can do.

I had this problem too after a failed restore sent my phone into a bootloap. When I odin'd a new kernel, it wouldn't mount, even though I had CWM. It wouldn't work until I odin'd a new rom. I used FB's starter pack and it fixed it perfectly.
Also, about the T-mobile contacts, it's annoying as hell because I don't have T-Mobile either. Once you load a KJ6 rom, use FB's debloater to get rid of T-Mobile contacts backup. You will notice a large amount of ram is freed up from deleting all of the t-mobile items.

Also, if you are starting from KD1 froyo, you need to follow FB's starter pack to make sure you get the proper gingerbread boot loaders on your phone.
Your SD card may be going bad, is there another one you can try?
I've had the same rom for months and haven't had issues or slowdowns. It might be caused by a specific app you are using. Though it may not be a bad idea to go into CWM every now and then and wipe cache, dalvik, and fix permissions.

[Q] Deleted all of the phones files? -.-

Hey guys hoping you can help me out here.
Let me just start by stating that I'm not really a tech savvy guy.
Okay, so here's my story. I found an old SD card with a bunch of stuff on it and decided to plug it into my phone. I was on CWR, and decided to format the SD card, I figured that would remove all of its content. Again, I stress I'm not tech savvy, however I figured its just and SD card and I could always resort to get another one if this one broke.
Anyway, if your still reading, I guess CWR didn't register the new SD card and instead reformatted my internal memory. (If that's the correct term).
Do I have any chance of getting the files back so it could at least boot?
Thanks in advance!
Sorry for being stupid.

Download your rom of choice put it on your sd card and and reflash through cwm unless you have titanium backup on your other sd you will probably have to redownload your stuff
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You likely wiped the data/did a factory reset. Grab a ROM, toss it on your sd card and flash it, it won't get your apps back, you'll have to reinstall them.
If you want to use the stock ROM go here. Otherwise, pick a custom ROM and run with it.

Волк said:
You likely wiped the data/did a factory reset. Grab a ROM, toss it on your sd card and flash it, it won't get your apps back, you'll have to reinstall them.
If you want to use the stock ROM go here. Otherwise, pick a custom ROM and run with it.
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Thanks so much guys!

[Q] How to free up more internal phone storage?

I have a Motorola triumph cell phone, which is on the stock rom that came with the phone. All I did is root it, put clockworks recovery on it and add a 32GB micro SD card in the micro SD card slot. I am getting two messages on the phone -
1- Text message memory full. Incoming message rejected due to full memory.
2- Low on space. Phone storage space is getting low.
I have cleared all the cache, text messages, and e-mail from the phone. That still did not work. So since my phone is rooted I installed an app that would let me move apps to the SD card. I moved all the apps that I could to the SD card. What do you know that still did not work. After doing all of this I am still getting the two messages. I do not want to factory reset the phone and loose everything on the phone. Right now the memory is like this -
1 - SD card total space 29.71GB Available space 16.96GB
2 - Internal phone storage available space 28.39MB
What else can I do to clear up more internal memory on the phone?

Apparently this is a problem with other people also and the only way around this is to install after market firmware like CyanoGenMod. I use Minimum triumph myself.

What is the best rom for the phone? I am reading that with some roms some stuff does not work. I want everything to work like stock rom. Is there a good rom that has everything working?

You can factory reset your phone. That will fix it.
You can root the phone and delete the .alog files (those are the ones that keep building and take up all the space).
There are a couple other options as well, besides flashing a custom ROM. It has been discussed multiple times over at androidforums.com. I would recommend going there to get the details.

yasirfaheem said:
What is the best rom for the phone? I am reading that with some roms some stuff does not work. I want everything to work like stock rom. Is there a good rom that has everything working?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410821
this link will direct u to the best rom i ever used, personally.

I just delete the bloat ware from system/app...all that stock crap...But the best way is to flash a new rom

I had to do a factory reset. I was warned not to do it from the settings favtory reset. Use the factory reset from the custom recovery.
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tcross8361 said:
I had to do a factory reset. I was warned not to do it from the settings favtory reset. Use the factory reset from the custom recovery.
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If you are using the original software that came with the phone, there are "a log" files that will build up and need to be deleted. I would recommend installing a customized rom to help free up some space and performance, as well as a lot of other cool features to make the phone better. Stock just won't cut it on this phone.

Space Problem and ROMs
My sister had a the same problem with her Droid Incredible. It went away for a while after a factory reset but came back within a month.
I'd suggest looking into a good ROM even if you weren't having this issue. Mantera over at android forums has a really nice CM9 alpha (it's what I'm using) and it's pretty great if you don't mind not having HDMI or camera (that will hopefully get fixed soonish). If you're cool with CM7, g60madman picked up where Whyzor left off and is providing regular updates so far to address bugs.

I'm confused. Why did you get an app to move apps to SD? The stock rom supports app2sd already. Just go to settings and apps. Click an app in the list to see the properties page. Should see a button to move to SD. Not all apps can be moved but the huge ones usually can.

Why?
jedgell233 said:
I'm confused. Why did you get an app to move apps to SD? The stock rom supports app2sd already. Just go to settings and apps. Click an app in the list to see the properties page. Should see a button to move to SD. Not all apps can be moved but the huge ones usually can.
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Because many App2SD apps allow you to do batch moving, where you can select what you want to move. Then, all you have to do is press OK and tap Move to SD Card and press back when done to move to the next app from the checklist you basically just made. They also may support extra actions, such as warn you if moving an app to an SD card will disable any of its functionalities.