I think the biggest complaint can be summed up this way. For HOW the Bolt was shipped, most people feel that they shouldnt have to tweak ANYTHING for it to last them all day. I, to a point agree, however, with that said look at any new computer. Can you pull it out of the box and just run it? Sure you can and it will work well for the AVERAGE user. Now, someone with more knowledge will want MORE out of their computer. Its the same with the battery life. Those of us that use it MORE will see crappy battery life. Why? Because were using it more.
Tips/tricks/apps and what not are for people that are going to use their phone MORE than the AVERAGE user will. My mom gets two days out of her Droid 2 before she has to charge it. ALL of her settings/themes/everything is stock out of the box and never bump charged. My sister has the EXACT same phone and was getting a single day use out of it. I installed JD on both of their phones, and my sister gets a little over a day and a half and my mom gets about two and a half days. My mom RARELY touches her phone while my sisters constantly using it. Two separate users, two separate charge times. One gets amazing battery life, the other complains about how short the battery lasts.
So, if you use your phone more than the AVERAGE user, expect below average battery life. This phone IS a battery hog, I will say that, but then again, my phones in my hand and Im playin with it every chance I get. ;-)
On this one, both parties are right and wrong. So agree to disagree, take the steps to get better battery life or move on. Its getting redic with the amount of threads there are dedicated to this topic.
YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOURSELF INTO WHEN YOU GOT THE PHONE.
Here are some links for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027802
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022434
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4xPfL8Fs
http://www.verizonwireless.com/thunderbolt-trade-extended-battery-2750-mah-cover.shtml
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/300920-post-ways-get-awesome-battery-life.html
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
RogerPodacter said:
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
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Different radios, different processors,different screen types = different power consumption
I did notice on the stock fimware before i rooted that the idle usage was virtually nothing. WAY better than my vibrant was. It seems since ive rooted and undervolted ive lost some battery life, but man the performance is so worth it.
Anyway, we are carrying around full computers with broadband speeds. im not complaining about battery life.
RogerPodacter said:
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
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If only.
My Bolt's (stock, rooted, custom rom, whatever) idle drain is about 36-40mA with bounces up to 90mA quite frequently.
Ok guys I apologize. A week ago I setup the current widget on 2 thunderbolt units here at the local Verizon store. Both collected data for a full week.
I just looked at the data and both phones stay at 34mA during idle time. Day after fly, over and over the results were identical, on both units. And they stayed on during the night too!
The bad part is that I did the same on the stock inspire at ATT, and that phone hit 1-3mA doing the same idle use. Which is a superb result. My nexus one stays around 5 mA.
So no wonder the thunderbolt sees worst battery life. You are gonna have to try a different ROM, or remove the crap stuff running.
Interesting though, perhaps Verizon has something running on the ROM. Go stock!
I had good battery capacity when mine was stock. It would last all day. Now if I played with the thing constantly it wouldn't. Using it here and there, I would never hit yellow.
I have tweaked it to get more batt life. I keep the screen on low setting unless I am outside and can't see it. Keep GPS/BT/WIFI off until i need it, and I shut the screen off when I am not actively using it. If you go under information, the screen uses the most battery life. Nothing to do with sense. Even GPS didn't come close to the screen usage. So I make sure the screen is off unless I am actively using it.
RogerPodacter said:
Ok guys I apologize. A week ago I setup the current widget on 2 thunderbolt units here at the local Verizon store. Both collected data for a full week.
I just looked at the data and both phones stay at 34mA during idle time. Day after fly, over and over the results were identical, on both units. And they stayed on during the night too!
The bad part is that I did the same on the stock inspire at ATT, and that phone hit 1-3mA doing the same idle use. Which is a superb result. My nexus one stays around 5 mA.
So no wonder the thunderbolt sees worst battery life. You are gonna have to try a different ROM, or remove the crap stuff running.
Interesting though, perhaps Verizon has something running on the ROM. Go stock!
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Hmm, that's not good. I can confirm that both my Nexus One and nexus S draw about 5mA. Any thoughts on what might be causing the bolt to draw 7 times the amount of power. Is there any way to monitor it?
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Hmm, that's not good. I can confirm that both my Nexus One and nexus S draw about 5mA. Any thoughts on what might be causing the bolt to draw 7 times the amount of power. Is there any way to monitor it?
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I really don't know what the reason is other than to say its just the stock ROM. In the other battery thread multiple people posted saying their thunderbolt only hit 30mA during idle. So I was skeptical but not anymore. Particularly because both working devices I checked had such damn similar results, both a little over 30mA. And there was a ton of data, from 2 devices, matching what this forum claims. Only suggestion is use another ROM.
Related story though. Previously I used the same ROM install for 5 months on my n1, and at the end the phone would only hit 50mA during idle over night. Presumably from just months of my data, app installs, etc. Clean flash took it right back to 5mA. Even with all apps re installed. So there is something to lots of crap loaded. Anecdotal, but proof enough for me.
the biggest battery hog for me is the screen, as long as you turn it off when your not using it and keep the auto - lock to 15s battery shouldnt be an issue for anyone
ALso, Juice Defender Beta has been updated on the market, and works well with the TB now.
I'm running the Virus Rom with Adrynalyne's 4.1b Kernel and I **** you not, last night I left my phones screen on (because its set to never dim but I should have the app control that now that I think of it) for 8 hours while I slept. Woke up and looked over at my phone lying on my nightstand with the screen on, picked it up and it was at 20% battery left. I think I passed out when it had 80% but I can't be sure (damn this Kraken Rum)
Either way. People with battery life complaints. I...I pity you.
I'm gettin 12 hours out of my TB
That's about the same as I got off my OG Droid
this is not a signature I type it in every time maybe sent from my phone or my computer
I'm getting about the same as my d1 running gingerbread. I'm still getting the extended battery too though. VZW is giving it to me for 18 dollars...
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McLabia said:
I think the biggest complaint can be summed up this way. For HOW the Bolt was shipped, most people feel that they shouldnt have to tweak ANYTHING for it to last them all day. I, to a point agree, however, with that said look at any new computer. Can you pull it out of the box and just run it? Sure you can and it will work well for the AVERAGE user. Now, someone with more knowledge will want MORE out of their computer. Its the same with the battery life. Those of us that use it MORE will see crappy battery life. Why? Because were using it more.
Tips/tricks/apps and what not are for people that are going to use their phone MORE than the AVERAGE user will. My mom gets two days out of her Droid 2 before she has to charge it. ALL of her settings/themes/everything is stock out of the box and never bump charged. My sister has the EXACT same phone and was getting a single day use out of it. I installed JD on both of their phones, and my sister gets a little over a day and a half and my mom gets about two and a half days. My mom RARELY touches her phone while my sisters constantly using it. Two separate users, two separate charge times. One gets amazing battery life, the other complains about how short the battery lasts.
So, if you use your phone more than the AVERAGE user, expect below average battery life. This phone IS a battery hog, I will say that, but then again, my phones in my hand and Im playin with it every chance I get. ;-)
On this one, both parties are right and wrong. So agree to disagree, take the steps to get better battery life or move on. Its getting redic with the amount of threads there are dedicated to this topic.
YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOURSELF INTO WHEN YOU GOT THE PHONE.
Here are some links for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027802
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022434
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4xPfL8Fs
http://www.verizonwireless.com/thunderbolt-trade-extended-battery-2750-mah-cover.shtml
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/300920-post-ways-get-awesome-battery-life.html
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disagree with most of this. i had a droid x prior and am using this device exaclty as much as i did that one. my battery life if HALF what the x was. and before you ask, i've had 4g toggled off continuously for the last week and have seen only marginal improvement.
i realize the t-bolt and the x have different processors/screens/radios, etc, but all-in-all they are pretty close performance-wise when i comes to everyday use. i can see the t-bolt having marginally worse battery life than the droid x, that would be a reasonable expectation. but HALF? sorry, not buying it.
i can't think of any other explanation than that the firmware
htc pushed out on this thing is flawed. not a dev though, so maybe i'm dumb...
If anything you should see improved battery life since the newer snap dragon is more power efficient, etc.
cwininger said:
disagree with most of this. i had a droid x prior and am using this device exaclty as much as i did that one. my battery life if HALF what the x was. and before you ask, i've had 4g toggled off continuously for the last week and have seen only marginal improvement.
i realize the t-bolt and the x have different processors/screens/radios, etc, but all-in-all they are pretty close performance-wise when i comes to everyday use. i can see the t-bolt having marginally worse battery life than the droid x, that would be a reasonable expectation. but HALF? sorry, not buying it.
i can't think of any other explanation than that the firmware
htc pushed out on this thing is flawed. not a dev though, so maybe i'm dumb...
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In the end, were talking about the Bolt, not the X. The X in this case is 100% irrelevant. You can disagree all you want, but my point still stands strong.
No battery complaints here. Half on 3g and half on 4g. This is with the htc extended battery. Running chingys rom with ziggy's latest bfs kernel oced to 1.49. Kik running the whole time.
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You can't compare the X to the thunderbolt. The X has a bigger battery to begin with, so you can't judge power efficiency based on uptime.
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In the end, were talking about the Bolt, not the X. The X in this case is 100% irrelevant. You can disagree all you want, but my point still stands strong.
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i'm not following you logic here. the droid x is a direct competitor. we're talking apples to apples here. it's significantly better in the battery area. i had an original droid before that and it was much better. how can that be irrelevant?
your notion that "this is just how smartphones are. you knew what you were getting so deal with it" is just plain wrong. we are discussing whether the battery life on the thunderbolt is a weakness or not. look at posts #5 and #6! you're telling me that's normal?
the idea that there are more people praising battery life on this thing than are complaining about it is wrong too. pop over the the htc forums and see the number one beef is over there. go into a verizon store and mention "thunderbolt battery life" to a tech and watch them roll their eyes.
bottom line: the thunderbolt is great in a lot of ways, but for a large percentage of us the battery life is pretty crappy, and for no good reason.
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I will assume that most of us on this board are early adopters, geek-heads, nerds or other types that just need their gadget fix.
We were all disappointed that the Thunderbolt went from one release date to another and another and another. When the product finally launched we all went through various motions of discounts, opening up new phone lines, equipment swapping with spouse, etc. I switched from ATT iPhone 4 to VZW the day after the TBolt Launch.
With all the little nuances (battery life, 4G/3G disconnects, etc) - I am extremely happy with what I have in my hands. We begged and begged for a product release and now we have it in hand. Half-baked? Not really (I have the Xoom, and I don't think that is half-baked). This piece of machinery rocks hardcore. Had the Atrix had the Inspire. But what made me do it was the 4G LTE radio. They all have minor problems (from my use cases). I really enjoy this handheld. I was begging for a product launch as soon as possible. Now that I have it - I will not complain. The paint is almost dry folks. Hang in there. I consider myself one of the fortunate users that were able to pickup a Thunderbolt.
Issues aside as an early adopter, are you happy with your Thunderbolt?
On a side note, I'm on my 3rd 17" Macbook Pro early 2011 Quad-Core due to over-heating issues. Yeah, it's from Apple - nothing is perfect.
The only thing I'm not happy with is the battery life while on LTE. I've got the toggle switch in there now but it's a pain to change it if I'm already in the middle of something, so I end up just leaving it on 3G all the time unless I'm doing something specific that benefits from the (awesome) speed bump. I'm hopeful that in the near future some of the battery-managing apps (JuiceDefender, etc.) will be updated to include LTE on/off options, so that for example I can have 4G turn off automatically when my phone's screen is off, or when my battery gets below 25%.
I am actually happy with the phone for the most part. The phone is VERY fast. I had a DroidX before and I thought that was a fast Android phone. The Thunderbolt is noticeably more snappier than the X though. The only time it lags is installing stuff from the market. Otherwise, it's blazing fast which I love.
Im in San Diego and the 4G coverage is AWESOME here. No drops or anything. The low latency on the 4G network makes the phone seem even faster when using apps like facebook. On the 3G network, it used to take a couple seconds for the network to respond, but now, data connections establish almost instantly.
The only thing that kills it is the battery. It makes the phone virtually unusable. It's like a Corvette with a 3 gallon gas tank. Sure it's fast, sexy and sleek, but you can only go about 50-60 miles before you're strandred on the side of the road and people are laughing at how your new performance machine has become a giant paperweight.
If no patch or fix comes out that at least marginnally improves the battery life, I might have to shell out full price for a Droid Bionic when it comes out. Moto seems to know how to make batteries. My Droid X battery EASILY last 18+ hours with good usage. My buddy's Atrix goes over 2 days on a charge. Then again, maybe crappy battery will be the price of admission when it comes to LTE. It's possible the Bionic will have atroicious battery life as well.
When everyone is saying poor battery life, "what do you consider poor?"
I've had a G1 since it first came out over 2 years ago, then got a G2 when it came out and the battery life was no where near my old "cell phone" as far as lasting that long.
Now compared to my laptop, I would say it was better than the laptop was.
I remember hearing these same complaints when Android phones first came out (Iphones for that matter as well).
So I guess I'm wondering what people consider poor? If I can get a good 8-10 hours with moderate use, I'm happy (and it's about what I would expect).
So what are your expectations?
I am pretty happy with my Thunderbolt.
I live in a 4G area, but I can tell at work, I am getting close to the edge of 4G range and my battery life is worse at work as a result. Overall, the battery is fairly comparable to my OG Droid battery life. In both cases I have kept my phone on the charger while at work. I will probably buy a spare battery for my Tbolt. I did that with my droid and never regretted it. I am not interested in the extra size from the extended battery.
I am happier with Sense than I thought I would be. It is sleek, responsive, and I find it makes a more pleasant experience.
I love the phone, but I'm still on the fence about whether or not to keep it. I'm past my 14 days, but I've always had good luck with selling my phones on Craigslist for almost twice what I pay. I put a listing on Craigslist to see what I could get and have offers already ranging from $200-$550.
Anyways, battery life and signal are my main issues. I'm also upset that when shooting video I can't hear a damn thing when playing it back.
On battery, I wake up for work and after charging my phone all night my battery is at 85% within 20 minutes. I thought my Samsung epic had bad battery life, but this is horrible. Im in a 4g area at home, and even with WiFi only on and most apps closed, battery is still bad. I can't even make it until noon without the battery being completely drained.
My other issue is signal. 4g is awesome when it works. However, I can sit in one spot and have full 3G but the phone constantly drops to 1X or no signal. My coworker has been beside me with her droidx and her phone maintains the full 3G signal. Same with another coworkers OG Droid .It's annoying to have a great phone with service that is constantly going in and out, or that can never be used to its full potential or used the way I want to use it, for fear of a dropped signal or dead battery.
I have a backup battery on the way so for now I'm gona deal with it. However, if the video recording isn't fixed with an update and I my signal issues persist I may have to sell my TB.
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Dnakaman said:
When everyone is saying poor battery life, "what do you consider poor?"
I've had a G1 since it first came out over 2 years ago, then got a G2 when it came out and the battery life was no where near my old "cell phone" as far as lasting that long.
Now compared to my laptop, I would say it was better than the laptop was.
I remember hearing these same complaints when Android phones first came out (Iphones for that matter as well).
So I guess I'm wondering what people consider poor? If I can get a good 8-10 hours with moderate use, I'm happy (and it's about what I would expect).
So what are your expectations?
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Poor = phone dropping a percent every few minutes of use. This morning it went from 100 to 80 within a hour and I hadnt used the phone for anything at all.. just turned on the screen a few times to check the battery level.
I might be spoiled by the Droid X because I never worried about the battery on that phone. With the Thunderbolt, Im always trying to keep it on a charger when Im not using it because it discharges so quickly.. I dont want to get stuck somewhere without a phone.
I love this phone, I love the development that's going on with it, and I can only see it getting better. Sure, there are some minor things, like GPS/Battery/Screen.. but I think it can all be worked through.
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Poor = phone dropping a percent every few minutes of use. This morning it went from 100 to 80 within a hour and I hadnt used the phone for anything at all.. just turned on the screen a few times to check the battery level.
I might be spoiled by the Droid X because I never worried about the battery on that phone. With the Thunderbolt, Im always trying to keep it on a charger when Im not using it because it discharges so quickly.. I dont want to get stuck somewhere without a phone.
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I'm wondering what you have running in the backgroud that could be sucking up your battery. I've had mine off charge since 6am this morning. It's now almost 1:30 and I'm still at 79% charge. I've been using it to make some calls and play a game or two, check my emails when I get a notification and some web searches.
All of my android phones have been about the same.
I love it.
I sleep with mine
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I sleep with mine
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I am actually happy with the phone for the most part. The phone is VERY fast. I had a DroidX before and I thought that was a fast Android phone. The Thunderbolt is noticeably more snappier than the X though. The only time it lags is installing stuff from the market. Otherwise, it's blazing fast which I love.
Im in San Diego and the 4G coverage is AWESOME here. No drops or anything. The low latency on the 4G network makes the phone seem even faster when using apps like facebook. On the 3G network, it used to take a couple seconds for the network to respond, but now, data connections establish almost instantly.
The only thing that kills it is the battery. It makes the phone virtually unusable. It's like a Corvette with a 3 gallon gas tank. Sure it's fast, sexy and sleek, but you can only go about 50-60 miles before you're strandred on the side of the road and people are laughing at how your new performance machine has become a giant paperweight.
If no patch or fix comes out that at least marginnally improves the battery life, I might have to shell out full price for a Droid Bionic when it comes out. Moto seems to know how to make batteries. My Droid X battery EASILY last 18+ hours with good usage. My buddy's Atrix goes over 2 days on a charge. Then again, maybe crappy battery will be the price of admission when it comes to LTE. It's possible the Bionic will have atroicious battery life as well.
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I don't really agree with this. I'm coming from the D2 and I could hardly ever make it the whole day without charging. Really no different from the The imo. Plus I don't think motos build quality was that good either. I was never really happy with that phone.
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squeeze said:
I will assume that most of us on this board are early adopters, geek-heads, nerds or other types that just need their gadget fix.
We were all disappointed that the Thunderbolt went from one release date to another and another and another. When the product finally launched we all went through various motions of discounts, opening up new phone lines, equipment swapping with spouse, etc. I switched from ATT iPhone 4 to VZW the day after the TBolt Launch.
With all the little nuances (battery life, 4G/3G disconnects, etc) - I am extremely happy with what I have in my hands. We begged and begged for a product release and now we have it in hand. Half-baked? Not really (I have the Xoom, and I don't think that is half-baked). This piece of machinery rocks hardcore. Had the Atrix had the Inspire. But what made me do it was the 4G LTE radio. They all have minor problems (from my use cases). I really enjoy this handheld. I was begging for a product launch as soon as possible. Now that I have it - I will not complain. The paint is almost dry folks. Hang in there. I consider myself one of the fortunate users that were able to pickup a Thunderbolt.
Issues aside as an early adopter, are you happy with your Thunderbolt?
On a side note, I'm on my 3rd 17" Macbook Pro early 2011 Quad-Core due to over-heating issues. Yeah, it's from Apple - nothing is perfect.
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Just got my TB yesterday. Speed Test is surprising though. I am getting 6-8 Mbps down but my upload is crazy fast 30-40 Mbps. Is this odd from what others are seeing? Been trying it in different locations and the pattern seems consistent so far.
I haven't really had any issues. I love this phone.
One would think by now, that after HTC put out the evo and other large screen devices they would have better batteries. Also not to mention the thunderbolts delayed release. No we waste more on extended batteries, and have no cases to protect the dam thing. I've tried all the tips out there for tweaking the battery to get max use and it still sucks. I'm still in my 14 day trail period and I'm thinking of bringing it back. I'm just pIssed companies have the nerve to do this BS!
Well take it back then. Try a blackberry out. Oh yeah those things have even worse batteries and the bis always fails.
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First off I get plenty fine battery for a phone as fast as this with LTE. The large, bright screen is just a bonus. If you are getting bad battery you have yourself to blame if you would read these forums as almost everyone here is getting great battery life.
Also, your battery size complaint is terrible, the droid X has almost the same battery and runs fine as well. The LTE right now is the killer, verizon has admitted it so either switch to 4g or 3g only and stop flooding the boards with this crap.
I make it through the day no problem, and with LTE on. First few days were terrible, but things seem to have improved drastically since then.
Take it back. Threads like this show that it's not for everyone.
Example - I have a car dock, I commute, I work on a comp. all day, easy enough to charge at home. I've never had this battery life issue everyone is talking about.
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First off I get plenty fine battery for a phone as fast as this with LTE. The large, bright screen is just a bonus. If you are getting bad battery you have yourself to blame if you would read these forums as almost everyone here is getting great battery life.
Also, your battery size complaint is terrible, the droid X has almost the same battery and runs fine as well. The LTE right now is the killer, verizon has admitted it so either switch to 4g or 3g only and stop flooding the boards with this crap.
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uhhhhhh what? The majority says the battery sucks. Where have you been?
mojonation1487 said:
uhhhhhh what? The majority says the battery sucks. Where have you been?
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I have read WAY more posts about good battery life than I have bad. Where have you been? Yes, there are occasional posts about it but the vast majority after a little bit of tinkering have said good battery life.
My personal experience.
Took my phone off the charger at 96%. Used the GPS on a hour drive, sending texts and listening to music the whole way. Ate some dinner while continuing to send texts. Went to a hockey game and took ~30 Pics. Used the GPS to get back home with music and finally put the phone back on the charger. Time off charger 7 hours. Battery percentage 82%. Only 14% decrease with what I would say is some pretty moderate use.
One thing I actually thought was funny is I pulled out an old Sammy flip phone to see what size battery it had. 1100 mah. 5 years ago they were shipping dumbphones with 1100 mah batteries. Come to present day, a phone with 4G, a 1 ghz processor, and a ginormous lcd screen has a bump of 300 mah. Is something wrong with that?
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miketoasty said:
First off I get plenty fine battery for a phone as fast as this with LTE. The large, bright screen is just a bonus. If you are getting bad battery you have yourself to blame if you would read these forums as almost everyone here is getting great battery life.
Also, your battery size complaint is terrible, the droid X has almost the same battery and runs fine as well. The LTE right now is the killer, verizon has admitted it so either switch to 4g or 3g only and stop flooding the boards with this crap.
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I don't want to sound like a jackass, but I bought a 4G phone, not a 4G phone I need to use in 3G so I can make it through the day. In the end I just bought the extended battery. Solved all my woes.
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If I can figure out how to go 22 hours with 43% remaining on my phone with moderate to heavy use, than sure as hell you should be able to get at least 12-15 hours out of the phone, not knowing half of what I know.
cause that is all that matters right, making it through the day for how long your awake, so for most people 12-15 hours, then you are home and can plug it in.
who cares if you make it home and plug it in at 5%, it still lasted you all day.
I've done the 5 tips for better life, and thou it has a improved.... its a minor improvement. the phone is with out a doubt sweet, im just pissed bc i cant get a full day out of it. i work for 8 hours and leave the friggin thing in airplane mode, then on my way home i listen to music with it still in airplane mode subway kills it mad quick....i do and dont wanna bring it back i want the newest thing out, im coming from a OG moto droid.. 50-60 bucks for a goddamn battery that makes your phone last longer and turns it into a potential weapon...data/voice together is the only feature right now that is making it hard for me to decide if i should bring it back or not.. i got it this past Saturday i have 8 more days to decide, not to mention vzw wants the 35 dollar restock fee now. who remembers when they had the 30 day test run??? lmao they stop doing it because people kept bringing phones back within the period...
my phone definitely lasts me the day, but i don't think it would last the 10 to 15 hours that others are reporting. i already turned the brightness down to about 25 - 30 percent, turned off unnecessary widgets and sync'ing plus i set setcpu to throttle the cpu down to lowest speed when the screen is off. as such, i'd like to know what others are doing to squeeze so much battery time out of their TBs.
Custom Rom and Kernel seemed to help my battery life a ton. I can now easily make it all day with moderate to heavy use on stock battery. From the battery monitor, it looks like the screen will eat the most power, be sure to keep it set low. The underclock/volt while screen is off uses hardly any batter power and is really nice as well.
I'm getting awesome battery... My phone has been up for about twelve
Hours now and I still have about 45 percent... Heavy usage texting music internet and xda posting.
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Custom Rom and Kernel seemed to help my battery life a ton. I can now easily make it all day with moderate to heavy use on stock battery. From the battery monitor, it looks like the screen will eat the most power, be sure to keep it set low. The underclock/volt while screen is off uses hardly any batter power and is really nice as well.
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On all Android devices the screen is the battery eater, except on 2.0/2.1 with Exchange Sync issues... then it could hang and eat the battery.
I've never really had an issue with battery life. That's not to say my battery lasts longer, i just use different methods to keep my devices alive.
AA USB chargers have always been a good friend of mine, as well as plugging my phone into my laptop while it's in my backpack.
I can't wait for an external battery charger to come out for the TB, then you just have 2 or 3 batteries and swap them out as needed.
But if you're expecting more than 8 hours or so off of one charge they're right, you may look for another device
Yah man, 3 hours of navigation, with music going, many calls, 3 hours of internet use, txt & talk and LTE and 3G switching through out all day because of traveling . I was really heavily using the phone with an extended battery but made it just over 24 hours... Try trading it in for another battery. Your not Wifi tethering all day as home network are you?
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Well take it back then. Try a blackberry out. Oh yeah those things have even worse batteries and the bis always fails.
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. Blackberries are known for having excellent battery life. I had 12 hours 40 some odd minutes and was at 69% last night when i plugged my TB in to charge. I really don't understand the problem.
edit: proof, this was a few hours before i plugged it in.
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Stop whining about the phone. If you don't like the phone, take it back. No one here is forcing you to keep it.
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One would think by now, that after HTC put out the evo and other large screen devices they would have better batteries. Also not to mention the thunderbolts delayed release. No we waste more on extended batteries, and have no cases to protect the dam thing. I've tried all the tips out there for tweaking the battery to get max use and it still sucks. I'm still in my 14 day trail period and I'm thinking of bringing it back. I'm just pIssed companies have the nerve to do this BS!
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You bought a device with a 4.3" screen and a brand new radio technology. Honestly, what did you expect.No phone out there with a screen that large has what could be considered great battery life. Sure some are better then others, but these are not BB devices. And while we are at it, lets be realistic here... if they put in a bigger battery you would be in here complaining about how large and how heavy the phone is.... You can't have everything, something has to give at some point.
Well with all this 1 year contract stuff coming to an end i've noticed that I may need to switch from my Incredible to a thunderbolt. I love my incredible, esp flashing the many different roms that have been created. I've read a TON of reviews and everyone pretty much says its super fast, similiar to evo, and the battery sucks. Let me ask you this, when new roms emerge will custom kernals and such save the battery life? Is the battery life compared at all of a TBOLT to a Incredible? Right now im running warms z with chads 12/23 kernel and im seeing a good full day with more usage than an average person (always have wifi,bluetooth off). Should I take the 1 year contract plunge before the 17th of this month? Or maybe buy the Tbolt and put on ebay with just 1 more year to use my current incredible? And please tell me your daily usage and batt. life currently with your Thunderbolt. Thanks, and yes i've searched a ton.
Theres answers to all your questions already if you look around and read a bit and theirs already Custom roms/kernals with undervolted cpu to increase battery life.
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Theres answers to all your questions already if you look around and read a bit and theirs already Custom roms/kernals with undervolted cpu to increase battery life.
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If you read my thread i stated that i have searched and read a lot of reviews. I just want honest answers whether the people that have bought this would buy it again.
Well worth IMO... I change phones ALOT, and I have had ALL of them. I don't see myself leaving the Thunderbolt anytime soon.
Why??? Fast and ****, both phone and data, my bluetooth keeps my music playing through my truck even if I take the phone into a gas station with me, GPS is fast and solid as a rock, Speaker sounds great, screen is superb (dark and light), call quality is excellent, and for the past few weeks I have had it.... NOT ONE stall or hiccup. I'm sold.
I honestly can't say there is anything I don't like.
After switching the Kernel and conditioning the battery I see more than adequate life... For the record, I shut nothing off, I didn't by this beast just so I can shut all the good stuff off. Somedays I get a little buckwild and tap into my car charger but otherwise... No complaints.
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Well worth IMO... I change phones ALOT, and I have had ALL of them. I don't see myself leaving the Thunderbolt anytime soon.
Why??? Fast and ****, both phone and data, my bluetooth keeps my music playing through my truck even if I take the phone into a gas station with me, GPS is fast and solid as a rock, Speaker sounds great, screen is superb (dark and light), call quality is excellent, and for the past few weeks I have had it.... NOT ONE stall or hiccup. I'm sold.
I honestly can't say there is anything I don't like.
After switching the Kernel and conditioning the battery I see more than adequate life... For the record, I shut nothing off, I didn't by this beast just so I can shut all the good stuff off. Somedays I get a little buckwild and tap into my car charger but otherwise... No complaints.
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Are you in an 4g area? I don't think my area supports it as of yet. With moderate use your getting through a full day with the battery?
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Well worth IMO... I change phones ALOT, and I have had ALL of them. I don't see myself leaving the Thunderbolt anytime soon.
Why??? Fast and ****, both phone and data, my bluetooth keeps my music playing through my truck even if I take the phone into a gas station with me, GPS is fast and solid as a rock, Speaker sounds great, screen is superb (dark and light), call quality is excellent, and for the past few weeks I have had it.... NOT ONE stall or hiccup. I'm sold.
I honestly can't say there is anything I don't like.
After switching the Kernel and conditioning the battery I see more than adequate life... For the record, I shut nothing off, I didn't by this beast just so I can shut all the good stuff off. Somedays I get a little buckwild and tap into my car charger but otherwise... No complaints.
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I got to agree with DroidTh3ory 100%
I too have had just about all the high-end and many low-end android phones.
I must say hands down, there is no other device that can compare to the sheer quality of build, and its down right stupefying speed.
I have 0 complaints to make about the battery, yea maybe its slightly not as great as other phones, but like that picture above, it will last you all day.
just to add, im running mine at 1.4ghz undervolted.
Thunderbolt is worth it imo, but I am thinking about getting extended battery. I need to constantly check my email and voice calls so I'm going to be losing juice much faster than the average user.
Aside from battery issues, this thing is blazing fast. Imo faster than atrix
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Build quality has been great (just like my DInc) and there are a TON of developers that are creating ROM's for the device. Soon, CM7 will be out for it and I think there are a ton of people looking forward to that.
As far as battery life goes, it's a 4.3" screen and it's a 4G device. Complaining about battery life on this device is like buying a GT500/Viper and saying you love the speed, you love the features, but you just hate the gas mileage. It's par for the course and if you use the phone a lot, your battery life will suffer. Flash a better kernel and you can improve it somewhat though. FWIW, I can get a full day out of it and honestly, that's all I need.
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Are you in an 4g area? I don't think my area supports it as of yet. With moderate use your getting through a full day with the battery?
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Yep, smack dab in the middle LTE spread for my area. Emails, texts, calls, alot of Navigation, and my Bluetooth is almost always connected to my truck so I can rock out. Even before the Kernel switch I made through the day, but after the switch I have some to spare for those REAL busy days.
FYI, I conditioned my battery on the first day with my first 3 charges.
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Well with all this 1 year contract stuff coming to an end i've noticed that I may need to switch from my Incredible to a thunderbolt. I love my incredible, esp flashing the many different roms that have been created. I've read a TON of reviews and everyone pretty much says its super fast, similiar to evo, and the battery sucks. Let me ask you this, when new roms emerge will custom kernals and such save the battery life? Is the battery life compared at all of a TBOLT to a Incredible? Right now im running warms z with chads 12/23 kernel and im seeing a good full day with more usage than an average person (always have wifi,bluetooth off). Should I take the 1 year contract plunge before the 17th of this month? Or maybe buy the Tbolt and put on ebay with just 1 more year to use my current incredible? And please tell me your daily usage and batt. life currently with your Thunderbolt. Thanks, and yes i've searched a ton.
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I when from the Htc Droid Eris to the Thunderbolt and the 1st few days encountered "battery issues". I haven't rooted the phone yet but i did those tips on changing a few settings around and i unplug my phone at 8 am when i leave my house and plug it again when i get a notification that is at 25% at around 11:30. i use it a good amount of time during the day and spend my lunch break (about and hour) just surfing.
Once the phone is rooted there are A LOT of things that you can do to improve it even more. My advice do it yesterday! lol.
P.S. Btw i live in NYC and have not noticed any 3G, 4G swapping between services, it has all been 4G.
Im getting the itch. For the most part though verizon is forcing me to sign another 1 yr contract bc they are cancelling it on April 17th. Its gonna be weird to be stock until some solid roms and kernels are developed.
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Yep, smack dab in the middle LTE spread for my area. Emails, texts, calls, alot of Navigation, and my Bluetooth is almost always connected to my truck so I can rock out. Even before the Kernel switch I made through the day, but after the switch I have some to spare for those REAL busy days.
FYI, I conditioned my battery on the first day with my first 3 charges.
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Did you use a APP to condition the battery? If yes which one? I have rooted my Thundy and waiting for CM7.
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Did you use a APP to condition the battery? If yes which one? I have rooted my Thundy and waiting for CM7.
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Yep, the Battery Conditioning App (link below) works great... Wiping the battery stats in Clockwork does the same thing also but I like this because it deletes the "batterystats.bin" system file without having to restart, and the OS can't create a new one until the battery is conditioned (reboot).
FYI... You need root for this.
Download from here... Plus info>>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
Nice, seems very convenient... Thanks for the link!
I'm getting great battery life on adrynalyne's new kernel and ROM. No regrets switching from my D1 running CM7 with prime's kernel. Would love to see prime dev on the TB as his was the best kernel for my Droid, but I can't complain at all with how I'm doing
Put me in the +1 crowd.
Battery life was horrid, as expected, out of the box. After rooting, getting rid of bloat and running a cpu throttle I average around <10mah when idle. Not to say that it doesn't suck juice when I'm using it, though. But, it's well worth it. The phone is fast as hell.
Build quality is nice, as well, as others have stated. Would have preferred a sliding battery door and a red/blue/yellow led but I can live without.
It's the US 4G Edition of the HTC Desire HD...what's not to love? When the Inspire was one month in after release, there was hardly any dev at all except a complicated gold card root method and now its got MIUI and a lot of other rom choices... This phone hasn't been out for even a month and we've got simple root and strong dev support... I've also owned a Dinc and a bunch of other devices and I'm quite happy with my Thunderbolt
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Dude...the phone is totally worth it. I've just installed the new Das BAMF 1.4 with the new Adrynalyne kernel, and my battery life is teriffic! Phone has been unplugged for 13 hours, and i'm still at 65%
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Put me in the +1 crowd.
Battery life was horrid, as expected, out of the box. After rooting, getting rid of bloat and running a cpu throttle I average around <10mah when idle. Not to say that it doesn't suck juice when I'm using it, though. But, it's well worth it. The phone is fast as hell.
Build quality is nice, as well, as others have stated. Would have preferred a sliding battery door and a red/blue/yellow led but I can live without.
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Woah woah woah you're getting less than 10mA idle current draw? Can you explain exactly what rom, kernel, and settings you are using? I've tried just abouteverything I can and i bounce between 36-40 with frequent spikes to 100. Thanks.
I think its well worth it. Yes, battery life is far from great. However, its only slightly worse than what I experienced on my Samsung Epic. I'm in a 4G area the majority of my day, but sometimes travel outside of it for work. Coming from Sprint and being used to unlimited data, I use my phone all day. I listen to music, whether Pandora or iheart radio (my trucks stereo recently just stopped working ) all day traveling between job sites, check email quite frequently, txt and gtalk literally all day long, and make about 25-30+ calls on average a day. I also have all 4 of my email accounts set to check mail every 5 minutes for work during the hours of 5am-10pm every day, which i know contributes to my battery drain, but its necessary that I get my mail as soon as possible for my business.
Considering my usage, I think the phone handles quite well. Yes, I wish it was better, and yes it does drain quickly at times, especially in the morning even if I change some settings. However, I keep a spare battery on hand as I have done with all of my past Android phones. I have no regrets about buying the phone, except for the video recording issues I've experienced. If you love Android and rooting, I really don't see what their is to think about.
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I'm tired of seeing all these battery threads of people saying " I get 18-24 hours of life off a single charge! " To you people I'm saying bs, the only way your getting this kind of life is if your not using your phone. So quit trying to say your a " power user " when your not. Fact is you don't use your phone hardly at all and are trying to " look cool " by making people think that you have some super thunderbolt....lol.
So that being said I take my bolt off the charger at 6am and can burn through the battery by 1030am. I am a power user. Now I will go ahead and post my screen shots of last night and this will show you why I'm calling bs on all these battery threads. The phone was pulled off at 100% charge, on wifi all night really no use besides email and whatever android runs at idle.
Let's all face it, the battery life sucks on the tbolt. As well as the dinc...
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This is just one persons view....don't get butt hurt over it.
Agreed.
If I leave my phone doing nothing for 24 hours, it might last all that time, but as soon as the screen comes off and I do anything with it, all bets are off. Simple texting causes the phone to discharge at the rate of 1 percent/minute. 1400 mah is just too small of battery for this device.. dont know what HTC was thinking. They should have left off the kick stand and made the entire rear of the phone all battery.
Talked with HTC last night. Patch coming out in a week or 2 that will address this issue. Its the way the modem is talking to the system.. Pulling way too much power even when 4G is idle.
Meaningless screenshots on their own. You have to dig into each subscreen and show how long the things were in use to be meaningful. Sure, you're Display used 57% of the battery juice that's been used, but how long was the screen on? 5 hours of the 13? That would be damn good battery life in my opinion. If it was on only 1 hour, maybe you have issues.
A real "power user" would just suck it up and buy the extended battery or buy a cheap spare and keep it in their pocket/wallet if they're going to be away from a charger the whole day. That's what I did, and it's big, ugly and heavy, but the Thunderbolt with the extended battery lasts this "power user" all day long most of the time.
YMMV.
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Meaningless screenshots on their own. You have to dig into each subscreen and show how long the things were in use to be meaningful. Sure, you're Display used 57% of the battery juice that's been used, but how long was the screen on? 5 hours of the 13? That would be damn good battery life in my opinion. If it was on only 1 hour, maybe you have issues.
A real "power user" would just suck it up and buy the extended battery or buy a cheap spare and keep it in their pocket/wallet if they're going to be away from a charger the whole day. That's what I did, and it's big, ugly and heavy, but the Thunderbolt with the extended battery lasts this "power user" all day long most of the time.
YMMV.
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Extended battery is the way to go.
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I 2nd the extended battery!
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Meaningless screenshots on their own. You have to dig into each subscreen and show how long the things were in use to be meaningful. Sure, you're Display used 57% of the battery juice that's been used, but how long was the screen on? 5 hours of the 13? That would be damn good battery life in my opinion. If it was on only 1 hour, maybe you have issues.
A real "power user" would just suck it up and buy the extended battery or buy a cheap spare and keep it in their pocket/wallet if they're going to be away from a charger the whole day. That's what I did, and it's big, ugly and heavy, but the Thunderbolt with the extended battery lasts this "power user" all day long most of the time.
YMMV.
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Obviously you need to dig into each subscreen to get a better analysis. However I'm just posting on par with what others are going off of. Also I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not complaining about my battery life, my phone lasts as long as I need it to, which is nowhere near those hours on regular use. I was simply just staying a point towards all the battery threads.
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We all know that the Bolt has battery issues, why are we all so hung up on beating a dead dog? HTC is coming out with a revision until then suck it up and move on to more important things.........
Hmmm screen on for 2 hours straight and only dropped 20%. That means i should end up with about 10 hours with constant use. Seems pretty good to me since I wont be keeping it on for the whole time.
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I 2nd the extended battery!
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Had one.. took it back. There is no reason a cell phone should weigh as much as a Glock 19.
luniz7 said:
I'm tired of seeing all these battery threads of people saying " I get 18-24 hours of life off a single charge! " To you people I'm saying bs, the only way your getting this kind of life is if your not using your phone. So quit trying to say your a " power user " when your not. Fact is you don't use your phone hardly at all and are trying to " look cool " by making people think that you have some super thunderbolt....lol.
So that being said I take my bolt off the charger at 6am and can burn through the battery by 1030am. I am a power user. Now I will go ahead and post my screen shots of last night and this will show you why I'm calling bs on all these battery threads. The phone was pulled off at 100% charge, on wifi all night really no use besides email and whatever android runs at idle.
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This is just one persons view....don't get butt hurt over it.
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Agree completely. I'm at 62% after 5 hours off charger and solid lte coverage.
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sounds like you need a tablet, not a phone. these phones are not meant to be constantly on for hours. if thats the case - 4-5 hrs is great when you compare the zsize of the tbolt to the ipad which gets 10 hours.
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I'm tired of seeing all these battery threads of people saying " I get 18-24 hours of life off a single charge! " To you people I'm saying bs, the only way your getting this kind of life is if your not using your phone. So quit trying to say your a " power user " when your not. Fact is you don't use your phone hardly at all and are trying to " look cool " by making people think that you have some super thunderbolt....lol.
So that being said I take my bolt off the charger at 6am and can burn through the battery by 1030am. I am a power user. Now I will go ahead and post my screen shots of last night and this will show you why I'm calling bs on all these battery threads. The phone was pulled off at 100% charge, on wifi all night really no use besides email and whatever android runs at idle.
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This is just one persons view....don't get butt hurt over it.
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Well said! I respect your thread because I know what you mean and you are RIGHT! You are not complaining just stating facts. I kind of hate it when people grasp a hold of that "brand loyalty" mentality. Just because I purchased and own this phone (and like it too) doesn't mean I have to overlook and/or deny its flaws. That is how things get improved, with honest feedback. The Thunderbolt is an amazing device, probably the best phone I ever owned and I purchase a new smartphone about every six months. But make no mistake, it has a battery issue. Great to hear that HTC is on it, I knew they would be.
/sarcasm?
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Extended battery is the way to go.
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Exactly. I take mine off at about 545 every morning and make it till about 600 at night streaming music over bt all day. Personally I love the extended battery.
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This thread is ridiculous. The only reason you got bad battery life is you sit on 4G and, judging from your screenshot, were most likely downloading a million files at once while listening to music or something. You didn't use anything outside of the OS. This isn't stating facts, its stating personal experience. I am one of the people that can actually get 7-8 hours of use from this phone, and yes I actually USE the phone. So again, this thread = retarded. There were at least four other battery threads to complain in.
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Dont look at this thread it'll just make you mad,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030203
My stats are on the second page.
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This thread is ridiculous. The only reason you got bad battery life is you sit on 4G and, judging from your screenshot, were most likely downloading a million files at once while listening to music or something. You didn't use anything outside of the OS. This isn't stating facts, its stating personal experience. I am one of the people that can actually get 7-8 hours of use from this phone, and yes I actually USE the phone. So again, this thread = retarded. There were at least four other battery threads to complain in.
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Everything you just said is "retarded". Why would I put my 4G phone in 3G mode if I'm in a constant 4G area? Almost every one of your points or lack there of isn't even a rebuttal to my points. You obviously can't comprehend anything that I said in the op....
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I agree with the OP, you guys need to stop bragging about to battery life, everyones definition of using the phone as a normal, or power user or whatever is totally different. On a good day, ill get 12 hours with the screen off for about 6-8 hours, others, ill get like 2 hours tops.
It all varies and you guys need to stop bashing the OP, hes just trying to prove a point and honestly hes right, everyone is different. You could just text a couple of times a day and think youre a power user because you have the speed and power of 4g
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It all varies and you guys need to stop bashing the OP, hes just trying to prove a point and honestly hes right, everyone is different. You could just text a couple of times a day and think youre a power user because you have the speed and power of 4g
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There are two sides, some people use the phone one way and are unimpressed by the battery life. Others use the phone a different way and are impressed by the battery life. One side likes to complain that it sucks, the other side likes to say that it's great. Who are you to tell the happy people they should STFU? Likewise, who are the satisfied people to tell the complainers to STFU? HTC & Verizon clearly struck a midpoint with battery life and gave the heavy users an optional heavy battery. Threads like this are truly a waste of space though. If you don't like the battery life, buy an extra or extended battery, or return the phone. If you do like the battery life, great, but a thread on poor battery life is just as useless as a thread on good battery life. There is nothing that will change by making it "known" that the battery life is poor or great since only the end user can make that judgement.
Now look, I've extended an already poor thread.
I bought a used G2x in December 2011 and had okay battery life on the stock ROM. In January I started modding the phone with the Hell Phoenix and later Hellfire Sandwich ROMs. One day my phone started getting really hot and from that point on my battery life got worse and worse until it would only last a few hours. I ordered an 3500mAh extended battery from eBay, but it only increased the stamina of the phone to about 5 hours.
Since I never got a receipt from the previous user I had no warranty. However, I called LG and agreed to have the phone repaired for a fee that would not exceed $100 - they said it would cost between $40 and $100.
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
Unplugging the phone from the charger Thursday morning just before 8AM I used the phone as usual (light/medium use, but everything except BT enabled) all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday until the phone finally died Sunday morning at 2AM. Yes, that's 66 hours!!!
I'm still flabbergasted that this was possible, especially because I used the phone as usual and made several calls each day.
I'll try to attach a screenshot of the battery use. It was made at the time I went to bed Saturday night so it's not the full 66 hours.
Has anyone else ever gotten results like this or even higher?
Android version: Stock 2.3.3
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Battery: eBay item 180721306295 from "bridge_wireless" $9 including shipping
Get Juice Defender Plus, it'll toggle your wifi automatically and save even more battery life.
Light usage (sending maybe a hundred texts and a couple web pages loaded) will easily get me through the weekend.
Using Faux DS Kernel and stock battery.
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redmonke255 said:
Get Juice Defender Plus, it'll toggle your wifi automatically and save even more battery life.
Light usage (sending maybe a hundred texts and a couple web pages loaded) will easily get me through the weekend.
Using Faux DS Kernel and stock battery.
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I tried Juice Defender Plus and Faux DS kernel in January but never got any amazing results, but maybe my phone wasn't that healthy back then. Also, I didn't do anything to save battery life during the 66 hour test other than setting the screen brightness to "Auto". I also made several phone calls - as far as I remember it was about one hour and thirty minutes in total.
This really makes me wonder how long I can get in "power-saver" mode (dim, wifi off, 2G, Juice Defender, Faux DS) with the 3500mAh battery. Has anyone tried this?
I would be happy with 12 hours of light/normal use.
Im using the trinity kernel. SetCPU,Juice defender, auto dim screen, Wefi plus,
the only thing that syncs often is facebook on the hour.
and I cant make it 8 hours on one charge.
I rarely use the phone for calls mostly use text for work and friends.
facebook & web through out the day. if i let the phone sit and dont touch it the battery will last all day
I know I am no "light" user. I bought the damn phone to USE it. but I wouldn't say I am always a heavy user. I dont expect to stream for 8 hours but it would be nice If i could listen to the stern show,check Email,facebook,Web & text and only need to charge once halfway through the day then again overnight
Most I've gotten was like 22 hours! -___-
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I am definitely a HEAVY user and get around 16-18 hours on a charge. Constantly have Wi-Fi on, sometimes mobile data, gaming such as Temple Run and Angry Birds, and atleast half the time listening to music through PowerAmp. Constant texting, and maybe about 20-30 minutes of calling.
Also, when your cell standby surpasses your display usage, it shows you aren't really using your phone.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
PhilipCourtois said:
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
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Have you popped open the phone to look at the board?
Just curious if there's any variation. Screened on revision number, etc.
PhilipCourtois said:
I bought a used G2x in December 2011 and had okay battery life on the stock ROM. In January I started modding the phone with the Hell Phoenix and later Hellfire Sandwich ROMs. One day my phone started getting really hot and from that point on my battery life got worse and worse until it would only last a few hours. I ordered an 3500mAh extended battery from eBay, but it only increased the stamina of the phone to about 5 hours.
Since I never got a receipt from the previous user I had no warranty. However, I called LG and agreed to have the phone repaired for a fee that would not exceed $100 - they said it would cost between $40 and $100.
Fast forward 10 days and I received my phone back with a "replaced chipset" as it said on the note. And LG was nice enough to not charge me for the repair - kudos to LG!
I noticed that the phone was not getting hot or even warm anymore so I charged the 3500mAh battery to see how long it would last.
Unplugging the phone from the charger Thursday morning just before 8AM I used the phone as usual (light/medium use, but everything except BT enabled) all day Thursday, Friday and Saturday until the phone finally died Sunday morning at 2AM. Yes, that's 66 hours!!!
I'm still flabbergasted that this was possible, especially because I used the phone as usual and made several calls each day.
I'll try to attach a screenshot of the battery use. It was made at the time I went to bed Saturday night so it's not the full 66 hours.
Has anyone else ever gotten results like this or even higher?
Android version: Stock 2.3.3
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Battery: eBay item 180721306295 from "bridge_wireless" $9 including shipping
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What is your screen on/display time?
theking_13 said:
...Also, when your cell standby surpasses your display usage, it shows you aren't really using your phone...
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I'm not sure what you're trying to get at . As I said I used the phone as I normally do without any "battery saver" methods in place. I never claimed any heavy use during this test.
It'll be fun to try going in "battery saver" mode with the same battery and see if it'll last a week... Well - for ME it would be fun!
stkiswr said:
What is your screen on/display time?
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Not sure - I should have recorded that... Next time I will!
PhilipCourtois said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at . As I said I used the phone as I normally do without any "battery saver" methods in place. I never claimed any heavy use during this test.
It'll be fun to try going in "battery saver" mode with the same battery and see if it'll last a week... Well - for ME it would be fun!
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Well if I barely used my phone and mostly used it to check the time, I'd be surprised if it didn't last 3 days.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
theking_13 said:
Well if I barely used my phone and mostly used it to check the time, I'd be surprised if it didn't last 3 days.
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How fantastic - and thanks for the great constructive feedback! I love the warm feeling of knowing that the time I spend sharing my knowledge is appreciated without disbelief.
Really, I don't want to waste my time if you can't read. Just wanted to share my battery experience with stock 2.3.3, non-power saver configuration under normal phone use. And my idea of normal phone use is NOT just checking the time like you say. Compared to my experience when I originally got the phone I'm now getting way better battery life. I believe that the spread in battery performance is wide and far too many people settle with 4-6 hours of use before recharging with the reasoning that it's a dual-core phone and therefore swallows power as was it Gatorade. If I'm wrong and everyone knows that the G2X can go days on a charge then sorry that I brought it up.
Well when your display usage doesn't even show up, yet your cell standby and phone idle are at the top of the list, this means YOU ARENT USING YOUR PHONE. Any way you want to play this out, its not surprising that you get so much life out of your phone since its usually used as a fancy paperweight.
Maybe have your display usage on par with cell standby, then come show off amazing battery life.
Also, the 4-6 hours of life is most common on stock Froyo/GB. Not an issue anymore with custom roms.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Guys, c'mon. You're not even talking about the same thing as each other. A debate is completely pointless.
theking_13 says you're not using your phone enough for the 66h to be that impressive.
PhilipCourtois says he wasn't bragging about how amazing his battery is, but just stating how much of an improvement it was over the stock experience.
Both of you are right. Philip is in fact not a very heavy user, so a longer life for a battery isn't completely surprising. However, phone idle accounts for 21%, whereas everything else accounts for 79%, which is by no means at all "a fancy paperweight". You can even see that the apps that were used account for 39% of the usage at that point, which is more than the cell standby. Furthermore, judging by the graph statistics, the phone was turned on relatively frequently.
Now for something on topic: I'd be interested in seeing someone do a proper test on a 3500mAh battery. Something along the lines of charging it up to 100%, leaving the screen on at 100%, settings both min and max CPU clock speeds to >1000MHz, and doing whatever else you would normally do on your phone in addition to that. Then posting a screenshot of how long that would last them. I predict somewhere along the lines of 9-12h, but it'd still be more informative than a lot of the reviews here. Not to say that the reviews here are unhelpful of bad, because they are very much so helpful.
Good point, but the app usage on GB is extremely inaccurate. I have had my phone on for 3 hours, 27% usage by cell standby, and I played Draw Something for two minutes, and it shows up as using 17% already? ICS graphs on the other hand, are more accurate.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
Hey, you said you get >16h and you're a heavy user. Now I'm not doubting that in any way, but I'm using the same ROM as you, as well as the ELP kernel, which not only is optimized for EB, but is also supposed to be a battery saving kernel. However I get probably around 12h on medium usage. I've tried the faux kernel, and it did give better battery life than the T15 Trinity kernel, but on ELP my device lasted longer (T15 < Faux OC/UV < ELP for me, in other words).
Anyway, my question is did that Anker battery give you far more life over your stock battery, or is your device just lucky when it comes to battery usage? An extra 50mAh is barely anything, but you did mention in another thread that it runs cooler. From personal experience, my phone battery drains faster when it's warmer, so maybe that's it?
I'm really just curious because I've been messing around with battery saving techniques/phone accessories these past few weeks, and I just seem stuck in that 10-14h range on medium (maybe even medium-light by your standards) usage.
My highest is 8 hours. WTF
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA
How much do you use your phone in those <8 hours? I have moments when I don't touch my phone for hours, and generally I go down at about 2%/h when on standby. So if you ignored those, I'd probably be in the same boat as you.
For example, this is me today:
As you could probably tell, I haven't exactly used my phone a lot today, so I'm at 47% after 11h. However, I tested my battery this weekend by setting my screen brightness to 100%, screen timeout to never, and CPU min/max to 1100MHz/1100MHz. These were the results:
As you can see, my battery didn't even make it to 4h, so it really depends on how you use your phone.
Bladedwings said:
Guys, c'mon. You're not even talking about the same thing as each other. A debate is completely pointless...
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You're right. I never wanted to start a debate - all I wanted was to shed light on the fact that battery life of the G2X can be fantastic - even on stock GB - with the simple upgrade to a 3500mAh, cheap ($9) battery. Before I had the chipset replaced, the phone did NOT last very long and from everything I read on the forums, crappy battery life should be expected if not flashing a custom ROM with battery saver kernel. I'm just saying that that's not true for every phone.
Bladedwings said:
PhilipCourtois says he wasn't bragging about how amazing his battery is, but just stating how much of an improvement it was over the stock experience.
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If by "stock experience" you mean the condition I bought the phone in - then yes. But by my standards, the phone is now in as close to a stock condition as you can get - all I did was put in the larger battery. It's running stock GB 2.3.3 with all the T-Mobile bloatware still on it, Google+ on, data sync on, WiFi, 4G etc. on and screen on auto. And I really doubt that LG put in a "special", fantastic chipset when I sent it in for a repair.
Anyway, it seems a real enlightening discussion is on the way once we really start comparing use versus battery life and see that our phones differ dramatically in this regard.
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Hey, you said you get >16h and you're a heavy user. Now I'm not doubting that in any way, but I'm using the same ROM as you, as well as the ELP kernel, which not only is optimized for EB, but is also supposed to be a battery saving kernel. However I get probably around 12h on medium usage. I've tried the faux kernel, and it did give better battery life than the T15 Trinity kernel, but on ELP my device lasted longer (T15 < Faux OC/UV < ELP for me, in other words).
Anyway, my question is did that Anker battery give you far more life over your stock battery, or is your device just lucky when it comes to battery usage? An extra 50mAh is barely anything, but you did mention in another thread that it runs cooler. From personal experience, my phone battery drains faster when it's warmer, so maybe that's it?
I'm really just curious because I've been messing around with battery saving techniques/phone accessories these past few weeks, and I just seem stuck in that 10-14h range on medium (maybe even medium-light by your standards) usage.
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Well I'll tell you everything I did in a sec. But the battery helped maybe 20 minutes, but it is a new battery, so its going to get better results than one that is say 9 months. If it was a brand new LG battery, I'd get the same results.
Now onto what I've done to get this much. First of all, I use EaglesBlood rom and Faux's v0.48 kernel, CM Driver, not DS. I use Wi-Fi constantly, say for about 3-5 hours of the 16 hours that its used. For the most part, I have the network set to only connect to EDGE, not UMTS or HSPA. So 2G for most of the day. Then on the way home, I use 4G for around 30 minutes to an hour, and thats what kills my battery like there's no tomorrow.
Some other things I've done are replaced the Gallery app (supposedly uses battery all the time scanning for files) and use QuickPic instead. Replaced the stock Browser with Dolphin Browser and not only is it smoother, but it doesn't run in the background after I've closed it. Also, turned off logging for the SU app, turned off notifications for Facebook, Play Store, Words with Friends, Scramble with Friends, and auto synching for my Google accounts. Basically turned off background notifications for all apps except Pulse (news app) and Voxer (walkie talkie app).
Lastly, I have my CPU set to 216-816 MHz all the time, unless I play a game and whatnot. I notice no lag whatsoever while playing music and texting/on XDA/ browsing Pulse/etc. I undervolted -25mv across the board, even after what was already lowered through Faux's kernel. Ill post a screen shot so you know what they are. I found if I lowered them more, I'd get reboots sometimes when turning on Wi-fi.
If you have any questions, reply here or PM me. I'll be happy to help.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.