Battery stats....pssh - Thunderbolt General

I'm tired of seeing all these battery threads of people saying " I get 18-24 hours of life off a single charge! " To you people I'm saying bs, the only way your getting this kind of life is if your not using your phone. So quit trying to say your a " power user " when your not. Fact is you don't use your phone hardly at all and are trying to " look cool " by making people think that you have some super thunderbolt....lol.
So that being said I take my bolt off the charger at 6am and can burn through the battery by 1030am. I am a power user. Now I will go ahead and post my screen shots of last night and this will show you why I'm calling bs on all these battery threads. The phone was pulled off at 100% charge, on wifi all night really no use besides email and whatever android runs at idle.
Let's all face it, the battery life sucks on the tbolt. As well as the dinc...
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This is just one persons view....don't get butt hurt over it.

Agreed.
If I leave my phone doing nothing for 24 hours, it might last all that time, but as soon as the screen comes off and I do anything with it, all bets are off. Simple texting causes the phone to discharge at the rate of 1 percent/minute. 1400 mah is just too small of battery for this device.. dont know what HTC was thinking. They should have left off the kick stand and made the entire rear of the phone all battery.

Talked with HTC last night. Patch coming out in a week or 2 that will address this issue. Its the way the modem is talking to the system.. Pulling way too much power even when 4G is idle.

Meaningless screenshots on their own. You have to dig into each subscreen and show how long the things were in use to be meaningful. Sure, you're Display used 57% of the battery juice that's been used, but how long was the screen on? 5 hours of the 13? That would be damn good battery life in my opinion. If it was on only 1 hour, maybe you have issues.
A real "power user" would just suck it up and buy the extended battery or buy a cheap spare and keep it in their pocket/wallet if they're going to be away from a charger the whole day. That's what I did, and it's big, ugly and heavy, but the Thunderbolt with the extended battery lasts this "power user" all day long most of the time.
YMMV.

distortedloop said:
Meaningless screenshots on their own. You have to dig into each subscreen and show how long the things were in use to be meaningful. Sure, you're Display used 57% of the battery juice that's been used, but how long was the screen on? 5 hours of the 13? That would be damn good battery life in my opinion. If it was on only 1 hour, maybe you have issues.
A real "power user" would just suck it up and buy the extended battery or buy a cheap spare and keep it in their pocket/wallet if they're going to be away from a charger the whole day. That's what I did, and it's big, ugly and heavy, but the Thunderbolt with the extended battery lasts this "power user" all day long most of the time.
YMMV.
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Extended battery is the way to go.
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I 2nd the extended battery!
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distortedloop said:
Meaningless screenshots on their own. You have to dig into each subscreen and show how long the things were in use to be meaningful. Sure, you're Display used 57% of the battery juice that's been used, but how long was the screen on? 5 hours of the 13? That would be damn good battery life in my opinion. If it was on only 1 hour, maybe you have issues.
A real "power user" would just suck it up and buy the extended battery or buy a cheap spare and keep it in their pocket/wallet if they're going to be away from a charger the whole day. That's what I did, and it's big, ugly and heavy, but the Thunderbolt with the extended battery lasts this "power user" all day long most of the time.
YMMV.
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Obviously you need to dig into each subscreen to get a better analysis. However I'm just posting on par with what others are going off of. Also I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not complaining about my battery life, my phone lasts as long as I need it to, which is nowhere near those hours on regular use. I was simply just staying a point towards all the battery threads.
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We all know that the Bolt has battery issues, why are we all so hung up on beating a dead dog? HTC is coming out with a revision until then suck it up and move on to more important things.........

Hmmm screen on for 2 hours straight and only dropped 20%. That means i should end up with about 10 hours with constant use. Seems pretty good to me since I wont be keeping it on for the whole time.
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hammer4203 said:
I 2nd the extended battery!
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Had one.. took it back. There is no reason a cell phone should weigh as much as a Glock 19.

luniz7 said:
I'm tired of seeing all these battery threads of people saying " I get 18-24 hours of life off a single charge! " To you people I'm saying bs, the only way your getting this kind of life is if your not using your phone. So quit trying to say your a " power user " when your not. Fact is you don't use your phone hardly at all and are trying to " look cool " by making people think that you have some super thunderbolt....lol.
So that being said I take my bolt off the charger at 6am and can burn through the battery by 1030am. I am a power user. Now I will go ahead and post my screen shots of last night and this will show you why I'm calling bs on all these battery threads. The phone was pulled off at 100% charge, on wifi all night really no use besides email and whatever android runs at idle.
Let's all face it, the battery life sucks on the tbolt. As well as the dinc...
This is just one persons view....don't get butt hurt over it.
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Agree completely. I'm at 62% after 5 hours off charger and solid lte coverage.
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sounds like you need a tablet, not a phone. these phones are not meant to be constantly on for hours. if thats the case - 4-5 hrs is great when you compare the zsize of the tbolt to the ipad which gets 10 hours.

luniz7 said:
I'm tired of seeing all these battery threads of people saying " I get 18-24 hours of life off a single charge! " To you people I'm saying bs, the only way your getting this kind of life is if your not using your phone. So quit trying to say your a " power user " when your not. Fact is you don't use your phone hardly at all and are trying to " look cool " by making people think that you have some super thunderbolt....lol.
So that being said I take my bolt off the charger at 6am and can burn through the battery by 1030am. I am a power user. Now I will go ahead and post my screen shots of last night and this will show you why I'm calling bs on all these battery threads. The phone was pulled off at 100% charge, on wifi all night really no use besides email and whatever android runs at idle.
Let's all face it, the battery life sucks on the tbolt. As well as the dinc...
This is just one persons view....don't get butt hurt over it.
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Well said! I respect your thread because I know what you mean and you are RIGHT! You are not complaining just stating facts. I kind of hate it when people grasp a hold of that "brand loyalty" mentality. Just because I purchased and own this phone (and like it too) doesn't mean I have to overlook and/or deny its flaws. That is how things get improved, with honest feedback. The Thunderbolt is an amazing device, probably the best phone I ever owned and I purchase a new smartphone about every six months. But make no mistake, it has a battery issue. Great to hear that HTC is on it, I knew they would be.

/sarcasm?
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Trevlo said:
Extended battery is the way to go.
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Exactly. I take mine off at about 545 every morning and make it till about 600 at night streaming music over bt all day. Personally I love the extended battery.
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This thread is ridiculous. The only reason you got bad battery life is you sit on 4G and, judging from your screenshot, were most likely downloading a million files at once while listening to music or something. You didn't use anything outside of the OS. This isn't stating facts, its stating personal experience. I am one of the people that can actually get 7-8 hours of use from this phone, and yes I actually USE the phone. So again, this thread = retarded. There were at least four other battery threads to complain in.
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Dont look at this thread it'll just make you mad,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030203
My stats are on the second page.

mb02 said:
This thread is ridiculous. The only reason you got bad battery life is you sit on 4G and, judging from your screenshot, were most likely downloading a million files at once while listening to music or something. You didn't use anything outside of the OS. This isn't stating facts, its stating personal experience. I am one of the people that can actually get 7-8 hours of use from this phone, and yes I actually USE the phone. So again, this thread = retarded. There were at least four other battery threads to complain in.
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Everything you just said is "retarded". Why would I put my 4G phone in 3G mode if I'm in a constant 4G area? Almost every one of your points or lack there of isn't even a rebuttal to my points. You obviously can't comprehend anything that I said in the op....
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I agree with the OP, you guys need to stop bragging about to battery life, everyones definition of using the phone as a normal, or power user or whatever is totally different. On a good day, ill get 12 hours with the screen off for about 6-8 hours, others, ill get like 2 hours tops.
It all varies and you guys need to stop bashing the OP, hes just trying to prove a point and honestly hes right, everyone is different. You could just text a couple of times a day and think youre a power user because you have the speed and power of 4g

Nikolai2.1 said:
It all varies and you guys need to stop bashing the OP, hes just trying to prove a point and honestly hes right, everyone is different. You could just text a couple of times a day and think youre a power user because you have the speed and power of 4g
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There are two sides, some people use the phone one way and are unimpressed by the battery life. Others use the phone a different way and are impressed by the battery life. One side likes to complain that it sucks, the other side likes to say that it's great. Who are you to tell the happy people they should STFU? Likewise, who are the satisfied people to tell the complainers to STFU? HTC & Verizon clearly struck a midpoint with battery life and gave the heavy users an optional heavy battery. Threads like this are truly a waste of space though. If you don't like the battery life, buy an extra or extended battery, or return the phone. If you do like the battery life, great, but a thread on poor battery life is just as useless as a thread on good battery life. There is nothing that will change by making it "known" that the battery life is poor or great since only the end user can make that judgement.
Now look, I've extended an already poor thread.

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it's failure by design..

One would think by now, that after HTC put out the evo and other large screen devices they would have better batteries. Also not to mention the thunderbolts delayed release. No we waste more on extended batteries, and have no cases to protect the dam thing. I've tried all the tips out there for tweaking the battery to get max use and it still sucks. I'm still in my 14 day trail period and I'm thinking of bringing it back. I'm just pIssed companies have the nerve to do this BS!
Well take it back then. Try a blackberry out. Oh yeah those things have even worse batteries and the bis always fails.
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First off I get plenty fine battery for a phone as fast as this with LTE. The large, bright screen is just a bonus. If you are getting bad battery you have yourself to blame if you would read these forums as almost everyone here is getting great battery life.
Also, your battery size complaint is terrible, the droid X has almost the same battery and runs fine as well. The LTE right now is the killer, verizon has admitted it so either switch to 4g or 3g only and stop flooding the boards with this crap.
I make it through the day no problem, and with LTE on. First few days were terrible, but things seem to have improved drastically since then.
Take it back. Threads like this show that it's not for everyone.
Example - I have a car dock, I commute, I work on a comp. all day, easy enough to charge at home. I've never had this battery life issue everyone is talking about.
miketoasty said:
First off I get plenty fine battery for a phone as fast as this with LTE. The large, bright screen is just a bonus. If you are getting bad battery you have yourself to blame if you would read these forums as almost everyone here is getting great battery life.
Also, your battery size complaint is terrible, the droid X has almost the same battery and runs fine as well. The LTE right now is the killer, verizon has admitted it so either switch to 4g or 3g only and stop flooding the boards with this crap.
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uhhhhhh what? The majority says the battery sucks. Where have you been?
mojonation1487 said:
uhhhhhh what? The majority says the battery sucks. Where have you been?
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I have read WAY more posts about good battery life than I have bad. Where have you been? Yes, there are occasional posts about it but the vast majority after a little bit of tinkering have said good battery life.
My personal experience.
Took my phone off the charger at 96%. Used the GPS on a hour drive, sending texts and listening to music the whole way. Ate some dinner while continuing to send texts. Went to a hockey game and took ~30 Pics. Used the GPS to get back home with music and finally put the phone back on the charger. Time off charger 7 hours. Battery percentage 82%. Only 14% decrease with what I would say is some pretty moderate use.
One thing I actually thought was funny is I pulled out an old Sammy flip phone to see what size battery it had. 1100 mah. 5 years ago they were shipping dumbphones with 1100 mah batteries. Come to present day, a phone with 4G, a 1 ghz processor, and a ginormous lcd screen has a bump of 300 mah. Is something wrong with that?
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miketoasty said:
First off I get plenty fine battery for a phone as fast as this with LTE. The large, bright screen is just a bonus. If you are getting bad battery you have yourself to blame if you would read these forums as almost everyone here is getting great battery life.
Also, your battery size complaint is terrible, the droid X has almost the same battery and runs fine as well. The LTE right now is the killer, verizon has admitted it so either switch to 4g or 3g only and stop flooding the boards with this crap.
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I don't want to sound like a jackass, but I bought a 4G phone, not a 4G phone I need to use in 3G so I can make it through the day. In the end I just bought the extended battery. Solved all my woes.
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If I can figure out how to go 22 hours with 43% remaining on my phone with moderate to heavy use, than sure as hell you should be able to get at least 12-15 hours out of the phone, not knowing half of what I know.
cause that is all that matters right, making it through the day for how long your awake, so for most people 12-15 hours, then you are home and can plug it in.
who cares if you make it home and plug it in at 5%, it still lasted you all day.
I've done the 5 tips for better life, and thou it has a improved.... its a minor improvement. the phone is with out a doubt sweet, im just pissed bc i cant get a full day out of it. i work for 8 hours and leave the friggin thing in airplane mode, then on my way home i listen to music with it still in airplane mode subway kills it mad quick....i do and dont wanna bring it back i want the newest thing out, im coming from a OG moto droid.. 50-60 bucks for a goddamn battery that makes your phone last longer and turns it into a potential weapon...data/voice together is the only feature right now that is making it hard for me to decide if i should bring it back or not.. i got it this past Saturday i have 8 more days to decide, not to mention vzw wants the 35 dollar restock fee now. who remembers when they had the 30 day test run??? lmao they stop doing it because people kept bringing phones back within the period...
my phone definitely lasts me the day, but i don't think it would last the 10 to 15 hours that others are reporting. i already turned the brightness down to about 25 - 30 percent, turned off unnecessary widgets and sync'ing plus i set setcpu to throttle the cpu down to lowest speed when the screen is off. as such, i'd like to know what others are doing to squeeze so much battery time out of their TBs.
Custom Rom and Kernel seemed to help my battery life a ton. I can now easily make it all day with moderate to heavy use on stock battery. From the battery monitor, it looks like the screen will eat the most power, be sure to keep it set low. The underclock/volt while screen is off uses hardly any batter power and is really nice as well.
I'm getting awesome battery... My phone has been up for about twelve
Hours now and I still have about 45 percent... Heavy usage texting music internet and xda posting.
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TBJared said:
Custom Rom and Kernel seemed to help my battery life a ton. I can now easily make it all day with moderate to heavy use on stock battery. From the battery monitor, it looks like the screen will eat the most power, be sure to keep it set low. The underclock/volt while screen is off uses hardly any batter power and is really nice as well.
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On all Android devices the screen is the battery eater, except on 2.0/2.1 with Exchange Sync issues... then it could hang and eat the battery.
I've never really had an issue with battery life. That's not to say my battery lasts longer, i just use different methods to keep my devices alive.
AA USB chargers have always been a good friend of mine, as well as plugging my phone into my laptop while it's in my backpack.
I can't wait for an external battery charger to come out for the TB, then you just have 2 or 3 batteries and swap them out as needed.
But if you're expecting more than 8 hours or so off of one charge they're right, you may look for another device
Yah man, 3 hours of navigation, with music going, many calls, 3 hours of internet use, txt & talk and LTE and 3G switching through out all day because of traveling . I was really heavily using the phone with an extended battery but made it just over 24 hours... Try trading it in for another battery. Your not Wifi tethering all day as home network are you?
hammer4203 said:
Well take it back then. Try a blackberry out. Oh yeah those things have even worse batteries and the bis always fails.
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. Blackberries are known for having excellent battery life. I had 12 hours 40 some odd minutes and was at 69% last night when i plugged my TB in to charge. I really don't understand the problem.
edit: proof, this was a few hours before i plugged it in.
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Stop whining about the phone. If you don't like the phone, take it back. No one here is forcing you to keep it.
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howtodoo? said:
One would think by now, that after HTC put out the evo and other large screen devices they would have better batteries. Also not to mention the thunderbolts delayed release. No we waste more on extended batteries, and have no cases to protect the dam thing. I've tried all the tips out there for tweaking the battery to get max use and it still sucks. I'm still in my 14 day trail period and I'm thinking of bringing it back. I'm just pIssed companies have the nerve to do this BS!
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You bought a device with a 4.3" screen and a brand new radio technology. Honestly, what did you expect.No phone out there with a screen that large has what could be considered great battery life. Sure some are better then others, but these are not BB devices. And while we are at it, lets be realistic here... if they put in a bigger battery you would be in here complaining about how large and how heavy the phone is.... You can't have everything, something has to give at some point.

Got a Bolt battery complaint? Read here...

I think the biggest complaint can be summed up this way. For HOW the Bolt was shipped, most people feel that they shouldnt have to tweak ANYTHING for it to last them all day. I, to a point agree, however, with that said look at any new computer. Can you pull it out of the box and just run it? Sure you can and it will work well for the AVERAGE user. Now, someone with more knowledge will want MORE out of their computer. Its the same with the battery life. Those of us that use it MORE will see crappy battery life. Why? Because were using it more.
Tips/tricks/apps and what not are for people that are going to use their phone MORE than the AVERAGE user will. My mom gets two days out of her Droid 2 before she has to charge it. ALL of her settings/themes/everything is stock out of the box and never bump charged. My sister has the EXACT same phone and was getting a single day use out of it. I installed JD on both of their phones, and my sister gets a little over a day and a half and my mom gets about two and a half days. My mom RARELY touches her phone while my sisters constantly using it. Two separate users, two separate charge times. One gets amazing battery life, the other complains about how short the battery lasts.
So, if you use your phone more than the AVERAGE user, expect below average battery life. This phone IS a battery hog, I will say that, but then again, my phones in my hand and Im playin with it every chance I get. ;-)
On this one, both parties are right and wrong. So agree to disagree, take the steps to get better battery life or move on. Its getting redic with the amount of threads there are dedicated to this topic.
YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOURSELF INTO WHEN YOU GOT THE PHONE.
Here are some links for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027802
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022434
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4xPfL8Fs
http://www.verizonwireless.com/thunderbolt-trade-extended-battery-2750-mah-cover.shtml
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/300920-post-ways-get-awesome-battery-life.html
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
RogerPodacter said:
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
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Different radios, different processors,different screen types = different power consumption
I did notice on the stock fimware before i rooted that the idle usage was virtually nothing. WAY better than my vibrant was. It seems since ive rooted and undervolted ive lost some battery life, but man the performance is so worth it.
Anyway, we are carrying around full computers with broadband speeds. im not complaining about battery life.
RogerPodacter said:
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
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If only.
My Bolt's (stock, rooted, custom rom, whatever) idle drain is about 36-40mA with bounces up to 90mA quite frequently.
Ok guys I apologize. A week ago I setup the current widget on 2 thunderbolt units here at the local Verizon store. Both collected data for a full week.
I just looked at the data and both phones stay at 34mA during idle time. Day after fly, over and over the results were identical, on both units. And they stayed on during the night too!
The bad part is that I did the same on the stock inspire at ATT, and that phone hit 1-3mA doing the same idle use. Which is a superb result. My nexus one stays around 5 mA.
So no wonder the thunderbolt sees worst battery life. You are gonna have to try a different ROM, or remove the crap stuff running.
Interesting though, perhaps Verizon has something running on the ROM. Go stock!
I had good battery capacity when mine was stock. It would last all day. Now if I played with the thing constantly it wouldn't. Using it here and there, I would never hit yellow.
I have tweaked it to get more batt life. I keep the screen on low setting unless I am outside and can't see it. Keep GPS/BT/WIFI off until i need it, and I shut the screen off when I am not actively using it. If you go under information, the screen uses the most battery life. Nothing to do with sense. Even GPS didn't come close to the screen usage. So I make sure the screen is off unless I am actively using it.
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Ok guys I apologize. A week ago I setup the current widget on 2 thunderbolt units here at the local Verizon store. Both collected data for a full week.
I just looked at the data and both phones stay at 34mA during idle time. Day after fly, over and over the results were identical, on both units. And they stayed on during the night too!
The bad part is that I did the same on the stock inspire at ATT, and that phone hit 1-3mA doing the same idle use. Which is a superb result. My nexus one stays around 5 mA.
So no wonder the thunderbolt sees worst battery life. You are gonna have to try a different ROM, or remove the crap stuff running.
Interesting though, perhaps Verizon has something running on the ROM. Go stock!
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Hmm, that's not good. I can confirm that both my Nexus One and nexus S draw about 5mA. Any thoughts on what might be causing the bolt to draw 7 times the amount of power. Is there any way to monitor it?
jlevy73 said:
Hmm, that's not good. I can confirm that both my Nexus One and nexus S draw about 5mA. Any thoughts on what might be causing the bolt to draw 7 times the amount of power. Is there any way to monitor it?
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I really don't know what the reason is other than to say its just the stock ROM. In the other battery thread multiple people posted saying their thunderbolt only hit 30mA during idle. So I was skeptical but not anymore. Particularly because both working devices I checked had such damn similar results, both a little over 30mA. And there was a ton of data, from 2 devices, matching what this forum claims. Only suggestion is use another ROM.
Related story though. Previously I used the same ROM install for 5 months on my n1, and at the end the phone would only hit 50mA during idle over night. Presumably from just months of my data, app installs, etc. Clean flash took it right back to 5mA. Even with all apps re installed. So there is something to lots of crap loaded. Anecdotal, but proof enough for me.
the biggest battery hog for me is the screen, as long as you turn it off when your not using it and keep the auto - lock to 15s battery shouldnt be an issue for anyone
ALso, Juice Defender Beta has been updated on the market, and works well with the TB now.
I'm running the Virus Rom with Adrynalyne's 4.1b Kernel and I **** you not, last night I left my phones screen on (because its set to never dim but I should have the app control that now that I think of it) for 8 hours while I slept. Woke up and looked over at my phone lying on my nightstand with the screen on, picked it up and it was at 20% battery left. I think I passed out when it had 80% but I can't be sure (damn this Kraken Rum)
Either way. People with battery life complaints. I...I pity you.
I'm gettin 12 hours out of my TB
That's about the same as I got off my OG Droid
this is not a signature I type it in every time maybe sent from my phone or my computer
I'm getting about the same as my d1 running gingerbread. I'm still getting the extended battery too though. VZW is giving it to me for 18 dollars...
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McLabia said:
I think the biggest complaint can be summed up this way. For HOW the Bolt was shipped, most people feel that they shouldnt have to tweak ANYTHING for it to last them all day. I, to a point agree, however, with that said look at any new computer. Can you pull it out of the box and just run it? Sure you can and it will work well for the AVERAGE user. Now, someone with more knowledge will want MORE out of their computer. Its the same with the battery life. Those of us that use it MORE will see crappy battery life. Why? Because were using it more.
Tips/tricks/apps and what not are for people that are going to use their phone MORE than the AVERAGE user will. My mom gets two days out of her Droid 2 before she has to charge it. ALL of her settings/themes/everything is stock out of the box and never bump charged. My sister has the EXACT same phone and was getting a single day use out of it. I installed JD on both of their phones, and my sister gets a little over a day and a half and my mom gets about two and a half days. My mom RARELY touches her phone while my sisters constantly using it. Two separate users, two separate charge times. One gets amazing battery life, the other complains about how short the battery lasts.
So, if you use your phone more than the AVERAGE user, expect below average battery life. This phone IS a battery hog, I will say that, but then again, my phones in my hand and Im playin with it every chance I get. ;-)
On this one, both parties are right and wrong. So agree to disagree, take the steps to get better battery life or move on. Its getting redic with the amount of threads there are dedicated to this topic.
YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOURSELF INTO WHEN YOU GOT THE PHONE.
Here are some links for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027802
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022434
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4xPfL8Fs
http://www.verizonwireless.com/thunderbolt-trade-extended-battery-2750-mah-cover.shtml
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/300920-post-ways-get-awesome-battery-life.html
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disagree with most of this. i had a droid x prior and am using this device exaclty as much as i did that one. my battery life if HALF what the x was. and before you ask, i've had 4g toggled off continuously for the last week and have seen only marginal improvement.
i realize the t-bolt and the x have different processors/screens/radios, etc, but all-in-all they are pretty close performance-wise when i comes to everyday use. i can see the t-bolt having marginally worse battery life than the droid x, that would be a reasonable expectation. but HALF? sorry, not buying it.
i can't think of any other explanation than that the firmware
htc pushed out on this thing is flawed. not a dev though, so maybe i'm dumb...
If anything you should see improved battery life since the newer snap dragon is more power efficient, etc.
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disagree with most of this. i had a droid x prior and am using this device exaclty as much as i did that one. my battery life if HALF what the x was. and before you ask, i've had 4g toggled off continuously for the last week and have seen only marginal improvement.
i realize the t-bolt and the x have different processors/screens/radios, etc, but all-in-all they are pretty close performance-wise when i comes to everyday use. i can see the t-bolt having marginally worse battery life than the droid x, that would be a reasonable expectation. but HALF? sorry, not buying it.
i can't think of any other explanation than that the firmware
htc pushed out on this thing is flawed. not a dev though, so maybe i'm dumb...
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In the end, were talking about the Bolt, not the X. The X in this case is 100% irrelevant. You can disagree all you want, but my point still stands strong.
No battery complaints here. Half on 3g and half on 4g. This is with the htc extended battery. Running chingys rom with ziggy's latest bfs kernel oced to 1.49. Kik running the whole time.
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You can't compare the X to the thunderbolt. The X has a bigger battery to begin with, so you can't judge power efficiency based on uptime.
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In the end, were talking about the Bolt, not the X. The X in this case is 100% irrelevant. You can disagree all you want, but my point still stands strong.
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i'm not following you logic here. the droid x is a direct competitor. we're talking apples to apples here. it's significantly better in the battery area. i had an original droid before that and it was much better. how can that be irrelevant?
your notion that "this is just how smartphones are. you knew what you were getting so deal with it" is just plain wrong. we are discussing whether the battery life on the thunderbolt is a weakness or not. look at posts #5 and #6! you're telling me that's normal?
the idea that there are more people praising battery life on this thing than are complaining about it is wrong too. pop over the the htc forums and see the number one beef is over there. go into a verizon store and mention "thunderbolt battery life" to a tech and watch them roll their eyes.
bottom line: the thunderbolt is great in a lot of ways, but for a large percentage of us the battery life is pretty crappy, and for no good reason.

So...Was the Thunderbolt worth it? Battery the main issue?

Well with all this 1 year contract stuff coming to an end i've noticed that I may need to switch from my Incredible to a thunderbolt. I love my incredible, esp flashing the many different roms that have been created. I've read a TON of reviews and everyone pretty much says its super fast, similiar to evo, and the battery sucks. Let me ask you this, when new roms emerge will custom kernals and such save the battery life? Is the battery life compared at all of a TBOLT to a Incredible? Right now im running warms z with chads 12/23 kernel and im seeing a good full day with more usage than an average person (always have wifi,bluetooth off). Should I take the 1 year contract plunge before the 17th of this month? Or maybe buy the Tbolt and put on ebay with just 1 more year to use my current incredible? And please tell me your daily usage and batt. life currently with your Thunderbolt. Thanks, and yes i've searched a ton.
Theres answers to all your questions already if you look around and read a bit and theirs already Custom roms/kernals with undervolted cpu to increase battery life.
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Theres answers to all your questions already if you look around and read a bit and theirs already Custom roms/kernals with undervolted cpu to increase battery life.
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If you read my thread i stated that i have searched and read a lot of reviews. I just want honest answers whether the people that have bought this would buy it again.
Well worth IMO... I change phones ALOT, and I have had ALL of them. I don't see myself leaving the Thunderbolt anytime soon.
Why??? Fast and ****, both phone and data, my bluetooth keeps my music playing through my truck even if I take the phone into a gas station with me, GPS is fast and solid as a rock, Speaker sounds great, screen is superb (dark and light), call quality is excellent, and for the past few weeks I have had it.... NOT ONE stall or hiccup. I'm sold.
I honestly can't say there is anything I don't like.
After switching the Kernel and conditioning the battery I see more than adequate life... For the record, I shut nothing off, I didn't by this beast just so I can shut all the good stuff off. Somedays I get a little buckwild and tap into my car charger but otherwise... No complaints.
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Well worth IMO... I change phones ALOT, and I have had ALL of them. I don't see myself leaving the Thunderbolt anytime soon.
Why??? Fast and ****, both phone and data, my bluetooth keeps my music playing through my truck even if I take the phone into a gas station with me, GPS is fast and solid as a rock, Speaker sounds great, screen is superb (dark and light), call quality is excellent, and for the past few weeks I have had it.... NOT ONE stall or hiccup. I'm sold.
I honestly can't say there is anything I don't like.
After switching the Kernel and conditioning the battery I see more than adequate life... For the record, I shut nothing off, I didn't by this beast just so I can shut all the good stuff off. Somedays I get a little buckwild and tap into my car charger but otherwise... No complaints.
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Are you in an 4g area? I don't think my area supports it as of yet. With moderate use your getting through a full day with the battery?
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Well worth IMO... I change phones ALOT, and I have had ALL of them. I don't see myself leaving the Thunderbolt anytime soon.
Why??? Fast and ****, both phone and data, my bluetooth keeps my music playing through my truck even if I take the phone into a gas station with me, GPS is fast and solid as a rock, Speaker sounds great, screen is superb (dark and light), call quality is excellent, and for the past few weeks I have had it.... NOT ONE stall or hiccup. I'm sold.
I honestly can't say there is anything I don't like.
After switching the Kernel and conditioning the battery I see more than adequate life... For the record, I shut nothing off, I didn't by this beast just so I can shut all the good stuff off. Somedays I get a little buckwild and tap into my car charger but otherwise... No complaints.
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I got to agree with DroidTh3ory 100%
I too have had just about all the high-end and many low-end android phones.
I must say hands down, there is no other device that can compare to the sheer quality of build, and its down right stupefying speed.
I have 0 complaints to make about the battery, yea maybe its slightly not as great as other phones, but like that picture above, it will last you all day.
just to add, im running mine at 1.4ghz undervolted.
Thunderbolt is worth it imo, but I am thinking about getting extended battery. I need to constantly check my email and voice calls so I'm going to be losing juice much faster than the average user.
Aside from battery issues, this thing is blazing fast. Imo faster than atrix
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Build quality has been great (just like my DInc) and there are a TON of developers that are creating ROM's for the device. Soon, CM7 will be out for it and I think there are a ton of people looking forward to that.
As far as battery life goes, it's a 4.3" screen and it's a 4G device. Complaining about battery life on this device is like buying a GT500/Viper and saying you love the speed, you love the features, but you just hate the gas mileage. It's par for the course and if you use the phone a lot, your battery life will suffer. Flash a better kernel and you can improve it somewhat though. FWIW, I can get a full day out of it and honestly, that's all I need.
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Are you in an 4g area? I don't think my area supports it as of yet. With moderate use your getting through a full day with the battery?
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Yep, smack dab in the middle LTE spread for my area. Emails, texts, calls, alot of Navigation, and my Bluetooth is almost always connected to my truck so I can rock out. Even before the Kernel switch I made through the day, but after the switch I have some to spare for those REAL busy days.
FYI, I conditioned my battery on the first day with my first 3 charges.
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Well with all this 1 year contract stuff coming to an end i've noticed that I may need to switch from my Incredible to a thunderbolt. I love my incredible, esp flashing the many different roms that have been created. I've read a TON of reviews and everyone pretty much says its super fast, similiar to evo, and the battery sucks. Let me ask you this, when new roms emerge will custom kernals and such save the battery life? Is the battery life compared at all of a TBOLT to a Incredible? Right now im running warms z with chads 12/23 kernel and im seeing a good full day with more usage than an average person (always have wifi,bluetooth off). Should I take the 1 year contract plunge before the 17th of this month? Or maybe buy the Tbolt and put on ebay with just 1 more year to use my current incredible? And please tell me your daily usage and batt. life currently with your Thunderbolt. Thanks, and yes i've searched a ton.
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I when from the Htc Droid Eris to the Thunderbolt and the 1st few days encountered "battery issues". I haven't rooted the phone yet but i did those tips on changing a few settings around and i unplug my phone at 8 am when i leave my house and plug it again when i get a notification that is at 25% at around 11:30. i use it a good amount of time during the day and spend my lunch break (about and hour) just surfing.
Once the phone is rooted there are A LOT of things that you can do to improve it even more. My advice do it yesterday! lol.
P.S. Btw i live in NYC and have not noticed any 3G, 4G swapping between services, it has all been 4G.
Im getting the itch. For the most part though verizon is forcing me to sign another 1 yr contract bc they are cancelling it on April 17th. Its gonna be weird to be stock until some solid roms and kernels are developed.
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Yep, smack dab in the middle LTE spread for my area. Emails, texts, calls, alot of Navigation, and my Bluetooth is almost always connected to my truck so I can rock out. Even before the Kernel switch I made through the day, but after the switch I have some to spare for those REAL busy days.
FYI, I conditioned my battery on the first day with my first 3 charges.
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Did you use a APP to condition the battery? If yes which one? I have rooted my Thundy and waiting for CM7.
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Did you use a APP to condition the battery? If yes which one? I have rooted my Thundy and waiting for CM7.
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Yep, the Battery Conditioning App (link below) works great... Wiping the battery stats in Clockwork does the same thing also but I like this because it deletes the "batterystats.bin" system file without having to restart, and the OS can't create a new one until the battery is conditioned (reboot).
FYI... You need root for this.
Download from here... Plus info>>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
Nice, seems very convenient... Thanks for the link!
I'm getting great battery life on adrynalyne's new kernel and ROM. No regrets switching from my D1 running CM7 with prime's kernel. Would love to see prime dev on the TB as his was the best kernel for my Droid, but I can't complain at all with how I'm doing
Put me in the +1 crowd.
Battery life was horrid, as expected, out of the box. After rooting, getting rid of bloat and running a cpu throttle I average around <10mah when idle. Not to say that it doesn't suck juice when I'm using it, though. But, it's well worth it. The phone is fast as hell.
Build quality is nice, as well, as others have stated. Would have preferred a sliding battery door and a red/blue/yellow led but I can live without.
It's the US 4G Edition of the HTC Desire HD...what's not to love? When the Inspire was one month in after release, there was hardly any dev at all except a complicated gold card root method and now its got MIUI and a lot of other rom choices... This phone hasn't been out for even a month and we've got simple root and strong dev support... I've also owned a Dinc and a bunch of other devices and I'm quite happy with my Thunderbolt
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Dude...the phone is totally worth it. I've just installed the new Das BAMF 1.4 with the new Adrynalyne kernel, and my battery life is teriffic! Phone has been unplugged for 13 hours, and i'm still at 65%
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Put me in the +1 crowd.
Battery life was horrid, as expected, out of the box. After rooting, getting rid of bloat and running a cpu throttle I average around <10mah when idle. Not to say that it doesn't suck juice when I'm using it, though. But, it's well worth it. The phone is fast as hell.
Build quality is nice, as well, as others have stated. Would have preferred a sliding battery door and a red/blue/yellow led but I can live without.
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Woah woah woah you're getting less than 10mA idle current draw? Can you explain exactly what rom, kernel, and settings you are using? I've tried just abouteverything I can and i bounce between 36-40 with frequent spikes to 100. Thanks.
I think its well worth it. Yes, battery life is far from great. However, its only slightly worse than what I experienced on my Samsung Epic. I'm in a 4G area the majority of my day, but sometimes travel outside of it for work. Coming from Sprint and being used to unlimited data, I use my phone all day. I listen to music, whether Pandora or iheart radio (my trucks stereo recently just stopped working ) all day traveling between job sites, check email quite frequently, txt and gtalk literally all day long, and make about 25-30+ calls on average a day. I also have all 4 of my email accounts set to check mail every 5 minutes for work during the hours of 5am-10pm every day, which i know contributes to my battery drain, but its necessary that I get my mail as soon as possible for my business.
Considering my usage, I think the phone handles quite well. Yes, I wish it was better, and yes it does drain quickly at times, especially in the morning even if I change some settings. However, I keep a spare battery on hand as I have done with all of my past Android phones. I have no regrets about buying the phone, except for the video recording issues I've experienced. If you love Android and rooting, I really don't see what their is to think about.
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Damn this phone has great battery life

For some reason I can't post my screnshot of my battery use. Anyways
I was wondering, does anyone know how the iphone4's battery holds up with one charge and moderate use
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I was wondering, does anyone know how the iphone4's battery holds up with one charge and moderate use
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Android uses java...enough said.
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Btw I'm on 1d11hrs. Still 25% left.
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wow that's pretty awesome.
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wow that's pretty awesome.
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Iknow, pretty darn good, still tryna to get 2 days with moderate use
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Btw I'm on 1d11hrs. Still 25% left.
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what's your setup?
These "great battery life" threads always annoy me to no end. Not to take anything away from your good fortune, congrats to you, but after what seems like dedicating part of my life to trying to get even passable battery life out of this damn phone, I still can't make it through a full day, unless I refrain from using it for the most part. I'm really curious as to what the variable is from phone to phone that causes many to have poor battery life, and a few select others to get exactly the opposite. Anyway, again...congrats!
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kgbeezr1 said:
These "great battery life" threads always annoy me to no end. Not to take anything away from your good fortune, congrats to you, but after what seems like dedicating part of my life to trying to get even passable battery life out of this damn phone, I still can't make it through a full day, unless I refrain from using it for the most part. I'm really curious as to what the variable is from phone to phone that causes many to have poor battery life, and a few select others to get exactly the opposite. Anyway, again...congrats!
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I've been trying to think of a way to normalize the battery usage measurement. Something we can all use to make sure we are comparing apples to apples. I am considering an app that would record usage stats compared to battery drain and then assign that to a value. Then one could say " I got 10 hours of batter with a usage coefficient of 23". And 23 would relate to a scale of usage. That way we could get a better idea of what battery life really is.
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I've been trying to think of a way to normalize the battery usage measurement. Something we can all use to make sure we are comparing apples to apples. I am considering an app that would record usage stats compared to battery drain and then assign that to a value. Then one could say " I got 10 hours of batter with a usage coefficient of 23". And 23 would relate to a scale of usage. That way we could get a better idea of what battery life really is.
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kgbeezr1 said:
These "great battery life" threads always annoy me to no end. Not to take anything away from your good fortune, congrats to you, but after what seems like dedicating part of my life to trying to get even passable battery life out of this damn phone, I still can't make it through a full day, unless I refrain from using it for the most part. I'm really curious as to what the variable is from phone to phone that causes many to have poor battery life, and a few select others to get exactly the opposite. Anyway, again...congrats!
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Pluussssss one.
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what's your setup?
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Im stock, with nothing syncing in the background,brightness all the way low. I think those are things that drain the majority of the battery. Don't use Apps that are constantly running in the background, like an application protection for example
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kgbeezr1 said:
These "great battery life" threads always annoy me to no end. Not to take anything away from your good fortune, congrats to you, but after what seems like dedicating part of my life to trying to get even passable battery life out of this damn phone, I still can't make it through a full day, unless I refrain from using it for the most part. I'm really curious as to what the variable is from phone to phone that causes many to have poor battery life, and a few select others to get exactly the opposite. Anyway, again...congrats!
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I'm with you. I get abysmal battery life and I am not by any definition a power user. Texts, emails, some web browsing only. No streaming at all. My email apps are set to manual only, wifi and gps off almost all the time, certainly when not in use, LTE off, brightness set to automatic.
Yet I get barely a few hours before the battery is very low. I'm talking like 7-8 hours, a majority of which is spent with the phone on standby in an off state.
kgbeezr1 said:
These "great battery life" threads always annoy me to no end. Not to take anything away from your good fortune, congrats to you, but after what seems like dedicating part of my life to trying to get even passable battery life out of this damn phone, I still can't make it through a full day, unless I refrain from using it for the most part. I'm really curious as to what the variable is from phone to phone that causes many to have poor battery life, and a few select others to get exactly the opposite. Anyway, again...congrats!
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Thanks, display, syncing. Really will help with battery life is display brightness is all the way down, and no accounts syncing in the background. But Ofcourse some people want syncing and prefer the display to light up a room, it's all about preferences.
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Im stock, with nothing syncing in the background,brightness all the way low. I think those are things that drain the majority of the battery. Don't use Apps that are constantly running in the background, like an application protection for example
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That's great, but I'm not sure I'd want to have to hit the refresh button repeatedly like some needy maniac cuz I know that's exactly what I'd do.....lol
Right now running humble at 1.4ghz and juice defender i am getting 2-3% battery drain per hour with medium/heavy usage. I was getting 8 hours without juice defender but now that it's working i can see this.phone getting over 18 hours. Screen is around 60% brightness.
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There really isn't a reason for my phone to be syncing every hour, I'll just go into my gmail and press the refresh. I'll go into pulse and refresh so I can check my newsfeed. Wifi always on and always great signal, weaker signal means more battery drainage, vibration should be off as it really uses battery. I'll keep on thinking about new things and post them
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That's great, but I'm not sure I'd want to have to hit the refresh button repeatedly like some needy maniac cuz I know that's exactly what I'd do.....lol
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Yea iknow what you mean, and sometimes ill switch from manual sync to auto sync. But I really enjoy the long battery life its getting me
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Right now running humble at 1.4ghz and juice defender i am getting 2-3% battery drain per hour with medium/heavy usage. I was getting 8 hours without juice defender but now that it's working i can see this.phone getting over 18 hours. Screen is around 60% brightness.
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Man That's great for running at 1.4 and screen brightness high.
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Living out in the sticks with crummy service or in a building with crummy service can really effect battery life.
For example, where I work and where I live, I'm pretty sure I'm connected to the same cell tower, as I work and like a mile apart as the crow flies.
With that said, I work in a brick building with a metal roof, and my phone fights for signal all day, every day. It drains 15% per hour at idle. The same phone with the same usage at home sips less than 5%. At home I get great coverage.
I can promise you, that's one factor to consider. Another is setting the display to automatic brightness. I find that to be a battery killer. I don't know if its because its always sensing and calculating, or if its just not at the optimal brightness. Maybe a combo of both.
Setting it statically, even if its not the dimmest setting helps me.. I don't know why tho.
So anyway, location has a very large part of battery life.... even if you're not set to auto sync, your radios are still talking to the towers. With a bad signal, the phone will crank up the power to maintain a better signal... and that will destroy your battery... even more then auto sync.
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Thanks, display, syncing. Really will help with battery life is display brightness is all the way down, and no accounts syncing in the background. But Ofcourse some people want syncing and prefer the display to light up a room, it's all about preferences.
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I've tried cutting down the extras to the absolute basics and it really made no difference for me, or if it did it was too small to identify. The two things i'm definitely not willing to go without is push mail and a display that I can see. Having said that I don't really get that many emails and my display is generally set to ~20% (no auto) which is just adequate. I use Google Voice also, but when I uninstalled it for a couple days the drain remained.
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Right now running humble at 1.4ghz and juice defender i am getting 2-3% battery drain per hour with medium/heavy usage. I was getting 8 hours without juice defender but now that it's working i can see this.phone getting over 18 hours. Screen is around 60% brightness.
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Are you sure your body isn't storing large amounts of electricity and you actually recharge the phone as you're holding it in your hand? Do you live directly under high voltage transmission lines by chance? I've never overclocked, but using stock clock settings with any combo of every ROM/Kernel available, regardless of whether it's stripped or loaded, under medium to heavy use with the display set to 60% I would see a drop of anywhere from 20%-30%/hr. The only time I get 2-3% per hour is in standby with the phone untouched and no calls or Emails/Gvoice texts coming through. Personally, I think you were lucky and scored one of the rigged units they send out to reviewers. lol
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Living out in the sticks with crummy service or in a building with crummy service can really effect battery life.
For example, where I work and where I live, I'm pretty sure I'm connected to the same cell tower, as I work and like a mile apart as the crow flies.
With that said, I work in a brick building with a metal roof, and my phone fights for signal all day, every day. It drains 15% per hour at idle. The same phone with the same usage at home sips less than 5%. At home I get great coverage.
I can promise you, that's one factor to consider. Another is setting the display to automatic brightness. I find that to be a battery killer. I don't know if its because its always sensing and calculating, or if its just not at the optimal brightness. Maybe a combo of both.
Setting it statically, even if its not the dimmest setting helps me.. I don't know why tho.
So anyway, location has a very large part of battery life.... even if you're not set to auto sync, your radios are still talking to the towers. With a bad signal, the phone will crank up the power to maintain a better signal... and that will destroy your battery... even more then auto sync.
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I thought this too, and while I know it absolutely does make a difference in regard to the amount of power the phone transmits with, after a couple recent experiences in different places with 5 bar reception, one even having 4G, my battery drain problem seemed unchanged or very mildly improved (but still dreadful). At home I only get 3G, I lock it to CDMA so it doesn't search, but average around 2-3 bars. It's never in standby mode that I have an issue, it's in use that the battery level plummets, even when not transmitting data. If I didn't love the phone so much in every other way I would have Ebayed it and gotten something else by now, but the idea of parting with it makes me very sad. I've also considered getting the 2600 mah battery, but then I can't use a case. Dilemmas.
I don't know about you guys... but, whenever I am home.. im on wifi. I keep reading about people being at home and being in bad service areas or whatever. At this day and age doesn't everyone have a wifi router at home? The wifi radio uses signifigantly less power than the lte radio or cdma radio, even with great reception.
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[Q] Battery Life, Return Or Not?

First off, I am loving the phone. It is such a massive leap from the N1 I had been using. While I expected lower battery life, I did not expect to run through 70% of the battery in 4 hours with moderate usage.
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I have heard of people getting far better battery life, and have tried the various methods, from charging to 100% then turning the phone off and charging again to 100%, using juice defender ultimate, and even resorting to factory resetting the phone. Still I can't get any kind of good life out of the battery. My question is should I try and get a full replacement for the phone or just the battery? I've only had it sinceblast Thursday, so I know AT&T will happily exchange it, but if yall think it's just the battery, I'd rather just replace that then the whole phone.
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papertreeprophet said:
First off, I am loving the phone. It is such a massive leap from the N1 I had been using. While I expected lower battery life, I did not expect to run through 70% of the battery in 4 hours with moderate usage.
I have heard of people getting far better battery life, and have tried the various methods, from charging to 100% then turning the phone off and charging again to 100%, using juice defender ultimate, and even resorting to factory resetting the phone. Still I can't get any kind of good life out of the battery. My question is should I try and get a full replacement for the phone or just the battery? I've only had it sinceblast Thursday, so I know AT&T will happily exchange it, but if yall think it's just the battery, I'd rather just replace that then the whole phone.
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Have you found out what is using your battery?.. Even before I rooted and all the other stuff was getting at least 10hr.. now Im getting 24-28hours...
Are you running another ROM other than stock?
Didn't want to root if I needed to return anything, so I am running stock currently. Looking no app seems to be running away and draining all the battery. Everything looks the same as it did on my N1 in terms of what's draining the battery, which is what lead me to believe it's a bad battery possibly.
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papertreeprophet said:
Didn't want to root if I needed to return anything, so I am running stock currently. Looking no app seems to be running away and draining all the battery. Everything looks the same as it did on my N1 in terms of what's draining the battery, which is what lead me to believe it's a bad battery possibly.
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Yeah.. it very well could be.. mass produced items= bound to have some duds here and there..
Return it for another.. This is a great phone!!!
definitely return it.
Well if you do root than TPC's Rom is the best. It comes with kernel and the battery life is outstanding.
papertreeprophet said:
First off, I am loving the phone. It is such a massive leap from the N1 I had been using. While I expected lower battery life, I did not expect to run through 70% of the battery in 4 hours with moderate usage.
I have heard of people getting far better battery life, and have tried the various methods, from charging to 100% then turning the phone off and charging again to 100%, using juice defender ultimate, and even resorting to factory resetting the phone. Still I can't get any kind of good life out of the battery. My question is should I try and get a full replacement for the phone or just the battery? I've only had it sinceblast Thursday, so I know AT&T will happily exchange it, but if yall think it's just the battery, I'd rather just replace that then the whole phone.
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I was concerned with battery life at first as well. When I first got this thing I had to plug up 9 hours after I unplugged. So now I am near 30 days with it and the battery seems to have leveled out enough for me to be happy. I got 16 hours on it STOCK no ROOT the other day without plugging in, was at 10% when I finally plugged in. Yesterday I activated Juice Defender again after getting some questions answered. I got 17 hours without a plug in and was still at 25%, so i probably could have gotten 20+ hours if I needed it.
So I am happy now 17+ hours is plenty long enough for me, I always plug in at bedtime anyway.
I'm wondering how many people who are reporting battery issues, if they have calibrated them. Charge your battery all the way, use the phone until the battery dies, then fully charge. This will give a more accurate reading as far percentage used.
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I'm wondering how many people who are reporting battery issues, if they have calibrated them. Charge your battery all the way, use the phone until the battery dies, then fully charge. This will give a more accurate reading as far percentage used.
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first thing I did and I actually never have reported battery issues......I was giving it time to season and it has leveled off nicely.
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Well if you do root than TPC's Rom is the best. It comes with kernel and the battery life is outstanding.
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There is a new ROM Piret RC1, the battery life is amazing, it has a different Kernel as the one with TPC has it';s problems.
RC1 is clean fast and in 2 hours I used up 4%. Then turned every possible service on used it up like crazy to drain the battery, installing/backing up/ flashing new rom and it took 2 hours with heavy usage to drain from 17%. Just to compare last night I had a TPC ROM and was on WhatsApp for about an Hour and battery went from 85 to 34 %.
Re: Returning the phone.
First once you root you can the same way unroot, make sure first you install a stock ROM.
My friends have the same problem, one with this phone, and others with android phones in general, don;t waist your time returnig. To be safe you also have a year to send it to Samsung to get fixed if there is something wrong with it.
Basically, running apps will kill battery, location services kills it the most, sync not so much, heavy use of data does to (I have LTE plan). Use power saver to start at 70%, configure it right, use the CPU app to manage the speed ondemand.
Most important don't frick out, the andoid phones are like that, the major difference is that Iphone does maybe 20% of what android phone does in standby and many things are not available on Iphone, so the battery is better. You will not get more then a day of use on android if you use it to your benefit. 28H is mostly standby, no sync, no internet usage, just moderate. I used to use Iphone heavy and battery would not last a day.
Get a good data plan, don;t use WI-Fi unless u have too, when syncing with the car plug it in the charger, spend extra $10 get a Samsung cable from them, don;t go for cheap 10 dollar once or even 1 dollar once from China, they are very slow to charge. My cable from the box take 1.5 H to charge to 100.
Hope it helps, please don;t quote me on anything, this is purely based on research and one week usage and trying different things, it's strictly my opinion, don;t expect your phone to last like they use too, it's 21st century and techno in it is overwhelming and needs power. Keep the phone have two cables and enjoy!
This is my first smart phone, after 20 plus years of having cel phones. I try to read before posting any questions.
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This is my first smart phone, after 20 plus years of having cel phones. I try to read before posting any questions.
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good habit to get into thanks for that....the search button is your friend.
I have been reading on the battery issues, long before I posted. I have done everything from calibrating, to using juice defender ultimate, to doing a ritualistic dance to try and coax more battery life out of this phone. Still with nothing but 2 phone calls and one quick spelling look up, dead within 8 1/2 hours.
I just got my extra battery and charger from samsung in today, already fully charged up this battery and will see what it can do for a few days. I'm hoping my problems are just a random bad battery. I also factory restored and am running bare minimum on apps just to try and remove all variables. If there still is a problem I will exhange it for another one next week. I just hope they still have some white ones in stock
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papertreeprophet said:
I have been reading on the battery issues, long before I posted. I have done everything from calibrating, to using juice defender ultimate, to doing a ritualistic dance to try and coax more battery life out of this phone. Still with nothing but 2 phone calls and one quick spelling look up, dead within 8 1/2 hours.
I just got my extra battery and charger from samsung in today, already fully charged up this battery and will see what it can do for a few days. I'm hoping my problems are just a random bad battery. I also factory restored and am running bare minimum on apps just to try and remove all variables. If there still is a problem I will exhange it for another one next week. I just hope they still have some white ones in stock
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My battery went completely dead too. I returned mine. Black model though. New one is doing okay so far. Better since it doesn't report 100% battery until a reboot...
Finally went and exchanged it last night. So far I have gotten 9 hours of battery life and am only down to 70%. Better than before, but the vertical lines on the screen are worse on this one than the last.
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I have almost the opposite "problem." Not that I'd call it a problem just yet. I had my phone running from about 10am till 1am yesterday. I went to bed and plugged the charger in and it instantly said "battery charged 100%. Remove charger." 15 hours with no drain at all? Granted, I didn't do much with it yesterday but send about 20 text messages.
Going on 32 hours+ battery life and no vertical lines.. bought it when it came out Nov6....
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papertreeprophet said:
Finally went and exchanged it last night. So far I have gotten 9 hours of battery life and am only down to 70%. Better than before, but the vertical lines on the screen are worse on this one than the last.
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30% in 9 hr's? you need to see what is killing your battery... unless you play games or on the net all day.. that is not good at all..
I lose about 1% an hour..
I don't know what you smoking man but i tried his rom and never had issues. Let me tell you I Have ORD so my suggestion will be based on my usage rather than prediction. I have tried most of the themed/tweaked roms. Don't like stock rom.
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There is a new ROM Piret RC1, the battery life is amazing, it has a different Kernel as the one with TPC has it';s problems.
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Considering I used to be lucky to get 10% drain an hour on standby before, the 3% our so i'm losing an hour now is awesome. And in those 9 hours I checked google reader and played some levels of Trial Extreme 2.
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Here is my battery currently.
70% in a little over 20 hours was unheard of on my last one.
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