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I know that my question has been answered in countless threads.... but what I'm hoping to do is get this information compiled into one thread (and if it exists already, please point me there).
What I'm wondering is who's stock, who's rooted, what ROM you're running and if you had any issues.
I'm really not looking for any fixes to problems in this thread, just a simple compilation to get percentages, because I like to play the numbers.
I'll even start:
Stock Inspire with official sideloading and custom APN for hotspot
Only a random occurance where screen rotation stops
Owned since April 22
I've run LeeDroid and Android Revolution so far. With both ROM's I've noticed nice improvements in overall responsiveness of the phone. However, both suffer slight lag from the application Slacker Radio (just in case you enjoy streaming music ) that builds up over time to the point where I have to reset my phone just to continue to use it.
With LeeDroid, I've noticed that my Pandora app doesn't give it lag, or such a small amount that I don't really notice/care about it.
I've run a lot of Radio's (With their RIL) so I won't go into that, but the only Kernel I've ever played with was the oen for LeeDroid. Dunno if it actually did anything.
LeeDroid also, of the two (three if you count stock) ROM's I've run has the best battery life by far. Can't really go into official numbers since I've been tweaking my phone non-stop for a week now working out a few signal/speed bugs, however I've noticed that I don't have to plug it into my external battery except once a day, even after tweaking and adjusting non-stop for 4-6 hours.
So yeah, that's my take on it. If you're willing to sit down and play with things to get it to work, I'd say go for it. If you want something quick and easy, then I'd suggest maybe holding off a bit and enjoying stock.
Well, I ran my phone bone stock for the first 3 weeks of owning it, then rooted without any issue using bubby's simple root method.
Waited another ~1.5 months before flashing the rom I'm using now, Inspired Ace.
The rom has been a flawless, near stock (sense) gingerbread experience. I often forget I even flashed anything, except for the little gingerbread differences, of course.
Seriously, my guess is that an offical gb release from HTC for this phone would look nearly identical to this rom.
Haven't done anything radio-wise aside from flashing the matching ril for the stock radio. I haven't even updated to the new OTA radio yet.
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Scott_S said:
Well,....
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Are you the unadventurous stick in the mud.
Tx Redneck said:
Are you the unadventurous stick in the mud.
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Nah. I've actually been getting the "itch."
There's so many roms to check out, and I'm running out of excuses not to try some.
I'm just still a little hazy on some of the pre-flashing procedures, mainly cwr related. Like differences between "wiping" and format /system, /data, etc.
I'm finding that trying too hard to avoid misery before it happens results in perpetual inaction, though.
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I just got the Inspire last week (my first Android phone), and I can't help but tinker, so I've rooted and put a custom ROM on already. (LeeDroid and now CyanogenMod 7) I found these two video guides to be very helpful, as I wasn't familiar with a lot of the terminology people throw around.
Rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCcd1XQrTzE
Custom ROM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUUo9EMlT5Y
Be warned, this took me a lot longer than I anticipated (a couple of hours total, but I was multi tasking. [multi tasking = watching Game of Thrones]).
I really like CM7, it feels faster than stock and my battery life seems better as well.
Good luck!
I ran Stock for about 2 days. No known Issues.
I then Rooted and Ran Bubby's one click and ran the rooted stock RUU for about 3 days. No Known issues.
I then flashed Ace Inspired. It was fantastic. I ran it for about 2 days. Only issue I had was screen would stick in rotation. It just wouldn't move. A Reboot fixed it. I made a back so I could easily return to it. I haven't.
I then flashed Leedriod. I have been running this rom since. Its amazing. I have seen no issues. I Also made a Backup of this rom so I could easily return to it. I have.
I then flashed Gingerbeast yesterday. Its fast and clean. But...Sirius Radio would randomly disconnect. Wireless would random disconnect. Bluetooth stuttered.
I returned to Leedriod this morning. Again, no issues.
When my inspire was stock everything seemed to work like it should. Except I had one huge problem, and its a problem that I have had with any phone from at&t, I had absolutely zero service here in southwest Wisconsin where I'm going to school.
I then decided to root in hopes that with a new radio I could get signal. I went with Leedroids Rom and kernel and couldn't be happier. Now I get full service edge! I didn't even have to mess with the radio.
I still can't believe that with those two changes I get great service. I'm comparing to 3 phones all on the same network, razr, blackjack 2, and Samsung flight 2. The inspire was the second to worst service here, now blows all of the other phones out of the water.
Thanks Leedroid!!
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Well, I ran my phone bone stock for the first 3 weeks of owning it, then rooted without any issue using bubby's simple root method.
Waited another ~1.5 months before flashing the rom I'm using now, Inspired Ace.
The rom has been a flawless, near stock (sense) gingerbread experience. I often forget I even flashed anything, except for the little gingerbread differences, of course.
Seriously, my guess is that an offical gb release from HTC for this phone would look nearly identical to this rom.
Haven't done anything radio-wise aside from flashing the matching ril for the stock radio. I haven't even updated to the new OTA radio yet.
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1. Dl ROM of choice and save to SD Card.
2. Backup SMS/MMS w/ SMS Backup+ and sync to your google acct.
3. Make sure your Contacts are Synced
4. Backup Apps w/ TiBu or the like
5. Boot to recovery/CWM from Rom Mgr(if your current rom doesn't have the advanced shut down menu.)
6. Go to Backup/Restore and backup your current config
7. Go to Format System/Factory reset and run that
8. Go to Advanced and select Wipe Dalvik Cache
9. Go to Install zip from sd card> choose zip from sd card
10. Flash anything else that you're wanting/needing w/ that particular rom(some require flashing gapps)
11. Reboot System and complete setup like a new phone
12. DL TiBu or the like and restore apps
13. I can't think of anything else.
Aosp Gingerbread. Fastest, best stock gingerbread rom ever. Never made it past rc1; only problem is Bluetooth doesn't work. Which doesn't bother me one bit.
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I keep seeing people getting ripped for rooting business phones. I'm a self employed IT tech, and I use my phone for everything from remote access (RDP& TeamViewer) to mobile doc (Docs2Go) to social networking to business calls to gaming to kill time.
Would I be stupid to root this phone?
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1. Dl ROM of choice and save to SD Card.
2. Backup SMS/MMS w/ SMS Backup+ and sync to your google acct.
3. Make sure your Contacts are Synced
4. Backup Apps w/ TiBu or the like
5. Boot to recovery/CWM from Rom Mgr(if your current rom doesn't have the advanced shut down menu.)
6. Go to Backup/Restore and backup your current config
7. Go to Format System/Factory reset and run that
8. Go to Advanced and select Wipe Dalvik Cache
9. Go to Install zip from sd card> choose zip from sd card
10. Flash anything else that you're wanting/needing w/ that particular rom(some require flashing gapps)
11. Reboot System and complete setup like a new phone
12. DL TiBu or the like and restore apps
13. I can't think of anything else.
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Thanks Tx, I appreciate that. I have yet to flash a rom the "regular" way, that is, other than rom manager, with the exception of rooting, but that was rather automated, so having these step-by-steps is extremely helpful.
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ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
I keep seeing people getting ripped for rooting business phones. I'm a self employed IT tech, and I use my phone for everything from remote access (RDP& TeamViewer) to mobile doc (Docs2Go) to social networking to business calls to gaming to kill time.
Would I be stupid to root this phone?
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Not necessarily. There was a recent thread where someone was having problems with sound quality on his phone, which he depended on heavily for work, but i suspected other factors involved with that.
I'll tell you right now, this here phone in my hands is work-ready. Rooted and flashed a stable non-stock rom.
If anything, maybe if you had a backup phone just as a CYA type of thing for the process and a "burn-in" period, in case you run into some speedbumps along the way.
I mean, if you plan on going off hard on the flashing thing, then just due to the shear number of rom changes, something is bound to get a little goofy on the software end, but not anything that isn't fixable, for the most part.
When you start getting careless with things like partitioning or radio flashing, then you could run into some serious problems.
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A few points:
-it's very, very hard to brick your phone by rooting and flashing roms, so if you're stressing about that at all, don't. It only gets dicey is you are flashing radios via fastboot or messing with ENG-OFF. You don't need to do either of those things, and you won’t either accidentally.
-tinkering and trying many roms is very easy. If you do a nandroid backup (aka a backup with Clockworkmod recovery), you’re golden. It takes about 5 minutes to do a backup. If you want to come back to the previous rom, simply restore in Clockworkmod recovery. EVERYTHING will restore as it was before. After you do a backup, boot up and rename the backup file to something meaningful, like “Dilligaf5-20110534”. Make sure there are no spaces in the name, or Clockworkmod recovery will upchuck. The backup files are on your SD card in the \clockworkmod\backup directory. I have a collection of 10 backup roms. I can restore any one of them in 5 minutes with all my settings intact.
-if you are going from froyo to froyo or gb to gb, you can used Titanium backup to backup and restore sms/mms. Just backup “dialer storage”. When you get your new rom up, restore dialer storage. You will have to reboot after you restore in order to see your sms/mms messages.
-buy Setcpu and root explorer.
-checkout the rom kitchen. You can do lots of neat stuff like changing the battery meter, status bar, icons, fonts, animation, and boot animation. http://uot.dakra.lt/
-AOSP roms like CM7 and others are very fast and have good battery life, but some the apps are not as feature-rich. For example e-mail is missing a lot of options.
-GB roms (like LeeDroid and AR) are nice, but to me, GB doesn’t really have that much to offer over Froyo. LeeDroid has a great kernel and battery life. It also has a really nice call recorder. From a UI perspective
-My favorite rom is Dilligaf 2.0. You should give it a try.
Since I can't delete, just ignore this post. Lol
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Thanks a abunch guys!
I knew it was really a matter of "when" not "if" (My iPhone was JB when I bought it.... A guy wanted it unlocked, so I JB it for him and then saw that it was 3.1.3 before they had released the exploit for that baseband, so I bought it _CHEAP_)
Anyway, Looks like I have a project for this weekend
Since this is my thread, I'll feel free to derail it a bit.....
Any reviewsa on MIUI? I like Sense, but mostly just b/c I think that HTC's clock widget is >*, and I see that MIUI's widget is very similar.
You could just buy beautiful widgets and use it on whatever rom you prefer.
Ultimate Droid.
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I rooted and tried several ROMs. RCMixHD and TB Fusion were both nice, but the keyboard seemed to lag and freexe a good bit on those. Inspired Ace is the ROM I am currently on. I used the battery calibration technique used here to maximize my battery usage. For the battery history section of that thread be sure to grab this app, as the method listed there is not coded into GB ROMs. I have flashed ROMs once or twice and they have not booted, but a simple battery pull and boot to clockworkmod recovery (turn on with power and volume down buttons pressed at the same time then scroll to recovery) to wipe and reflash worked fine.
Well, I now officially have no warranty
Waiting for my SD contents to copy back over, and I think I'll start with Inspired Ace.
I welcome recommendations, but for now I think I'll stick with Sense ROMs.
Okay, I used to love this phone. I got it back in Feb when it was relatively new to where I live and the first thing I did was root and flash it with CM. This gave me a serious case of ORD and I couldn't stop trying out new ROMs on my phone. It was amazing! And fun! And everything was quick. Couple months down the line, I lost my phone and quickly replaced it with another Nexus S. More flashing ensued.
So, now 8 months down the line, I find myself getting a little bored with the constant flashing and I've been looking for something that will be stable. Now, here's the problem, after the first flash of a ROM everything seems super zippy! And it fills me with hope and brings a tear to my eye. But, then I start actually using my phone...load 25 apps...everything's fine...50 apps...going strong...75 apps, 4 days in...uh oh, OH HAI LAG!...*phone makes a trollface*...100 apps, a week in...the lag is so bad I can't do any gaming...my favourite game Muffin Knight makes me want to chuck my phone across the room; it lags so much that by the time I think I've got me a sweet muffin, I'm somehow teleported to a little rat's back. This is the case with any ROM - CM7, MIUI, several AOSP ROMs like Oxygen, CO2, SuperAOSP/OSR, NexusBread. All of them slow down after several days.
What causes this? Can it be a hardware issue? Do I have a faulty phone? Could it be I flashed too much? I never really was one for overclocking, my phone doesn't handle it well for the long haul. Is it Android's memory management that is poor? Oh, and while we're on the topic. What the heck is "True Multitasking"? Does it mean, when I'm playing a game, I get a call and when I hang up, the game has restarted? Or I load a page on my browser and when I go back it has to reload? Or pausing any game and pressing home to do something else, then coming back to it to see it has to restart? I don't think my phone can handle more than two tasks well.
Anyway, at this point, what do the XDAliens think I should do? A hard reset? Maybe format my SD card too? Or what else can I do? Any suggestions would help.
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Okay, I used to love this phone. I got it back in Feb when it was relatively new to where I live and the first thing I did was root and flash it with CM. This gave me a serious case of ORD and I couldn't stop trying out new ROMs on my phone. It was amazing! And fun! And everything was quick. Couple months down the line, I lost my phone and quickly replaced it with another Nexus S. More flashing ensued.
So, now 8 months down the line, I find myself getting a little bored with the constant flashing and I've been looking for something that will be stable. Now, here's the problem, after the first flash of a ROM everything seems super zippy! And it fills me with hope and brings a tear to my eye. But, then I start actually using my phone...load 25 apps...everything's fine...50 apps...going strong...75 apps, 4 days in...uh oh, OH HAI LAG!...*phone makes a trollface*...100 apps, a week in...the lag is so bad I can't do any gaming...my favourite game Muffin Knight makes me want to chuck my phone across the room; it lags so much that by the time I think I've got me a sweet muffin, I'm somehow teleported to a little rat's back. This is the case with any ROM - CM7, MIUI, several AOSP ROMs like Oxygen, CO2, SuperAOSP/OSR, NexusBread. All of them slow down after several days.
What causes this? Can it be a hardware issue? Do I have a faulty phone? Could it be I flashed too much? I never really was one for overclocking, my phone doesn't handle it well for the long haul. Is it Android's memory management that is poor? Oh, and while we're on the topic. What the heck is "True Multitasking"? Does it mean, when I'm playing a game, I get a call and when I hang up, the game has restarted? Or I load a page on my browser and when I go back it has to reload? Or pausing any game and pressing home to do something else, then coming back to it to see it has to restart? I don't think my phone can handle more than two tasks well.
Anyway, at this point, what do the XDAliens think I should do? A hard reset? Maybe format my SD card too? Or what else can I do? Any suggestions would help.
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wipe your dalvik and try to reboot at least once a day,
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wipe your dalvik and try to reboot at least once a day,
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Oh, I do do that! As part of my troubleshooting. But, it doesn't help much. Maybe an hour or so of seemingly lag free use. But, once I've used a bunch of apps it's back to Lagville. So yeah, no go, at least not when it come to Muffin Knight (Lol, this has become my benchmark)
EDIT: I should also mention, I've tried moving a lot of my heavy apps to SD.
technically since nexus has internal memory shouldnt be as fast as "normal" internal memory? ie internal memory and SD space? But 100 apps that is quite a bit. Shouldnt be aproblem
So, no one else experiences lags after a few days of running all their apps? Maybe once they cross the 70 apps mark. No stutters in scrolling or gaming? No one else notices Android's poor multi-tasking? Poor app load times, poor widget response times?
I'm trying to figure out if it's just my phone or whether this happens to everyone.
EDIT: Maybe I should revert back to stock and if the lags continue, I could take it in to the shop under warranty?
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So, no one else experiences lags after a few days of running all their apps? Maybe once they cross the 70 apps mark. No stutters in scrolling or gaming? No one else notices Android's poor multi-tasking? Poor app load times, poor widget response times?
I'm trying to figure out if it's just my phone or whether this happens to everyone.
EDIT: Maybe I should revert back to stock and if the lags continue, I could take it in to the shop under warranty?
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No, No and No - > 100 apps - stock rom. Everything remains smooth and has for a long time. I reboot the phone maybe twice a month and never force clear the dalvik cache.
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No, No and No - > 100 apps - stock rom. Everything remains smooth and has for a long time. I reboot the phone maybe twice a month and never force clear the dalvik cache.
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Thanks for the reply. I clear the dalvik ALL the time for flashing a new ROM or when my current one is feeling laggy. Maybe I shouldn't have. EDIT: I'm curious...Why do you not clear the Dalvik? Just because you've never had to?
Have you ever flashed other ROMs? Maybe bare AOSP ROMs like DevNull? Any issues there?
I'm thinking I should reset, reformat and return to stock...
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Thanks for the reply. I clear the dalvik ALL the time for flashing a new ROM or when my current one is feeling laggy. Maybe I shouldn't have. EDIT: I'm curious...Why do you not clear the Dalvik? Just because you've never had to?
Have you ever flashed other ROMs? Maybe bare AOSP ROMs like DevNull? Any issues there?
I'm thinking I should reset, reformat and return to stock...
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I don't see a reason to clear the Dalvik cache on a regular basis - that advice just doesn't make any sense. After you clear it, it just gets rebuilt when you reboot anyway, and just leads to a really long start up time. Unless you are installing / uninstalling a massive amount of apps and you feel the cache is far too large it just doesn't make sense. Between rom flashes, sure. But as a regular thing to help performance? That just doesn't hold water for me.
I flashed CM7 back around Feb / March but stability was an issue at that point still so I went back to stock. Since then I've never had any issues with running a rooted stock rom on the Nexus S so I never had any interest in most of the custom roms (outside of a few AOSP roms I built myself) as they all seem to introduce little bugs for the most part and I have little use for the "tweaks" and customizations included in most.
Ok, ill say it...Why the hell do you need that many apps. You can't possibly use them all. Delete the ones you don't need....
Anyways, wipe everything when you flash the rom, and don't wipe anything after that. Reboot every other day or so. That's what works for me but I have like 20 apps ..
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Igotsanevo4g said:
Ok, ill say it...Why the hell do you need that many apps. You can't possibly use them all. Delete the ones you don't need....
Anyways, wipe everything when you flash the rom, and don't wipe anything after that. Reboot every other day or so. That's what works for me but I have like 20 apps ..
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he never said he had 100 separate apps...he just said after the 100th time running an app
Igotsanevo4g said:
Ok, ill say it...Why the hell do you need that many apps. You can't possibly use them all. Delete the ones you don't need....
Anyways, wipe everything when you flash the rom, and don't wipe anything after that. Reboot every other day or so. That's what works for me but I have like 20 apps ..
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That's not very helpful. I should be able to have as many apps as I need. A certain competing platform allows this. Anyway, I do use most of my apps. Maybe not on a daily basis, but I want them around for when I need them.
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he never said he had 100 separate apps...he just said after the 100th time running an app
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No, I meant 100 apps.
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I don't see a reason to clear the Dalvik cache on a regular basis - that advice just doesn't make any sense. After you clear it, it just gets rebuilt when you reboot anyway, and just leads to a really long start up time. Unless you are installing / uninstalling a massive amount of apps and you feel the cache is far too large it just doesn't make sense. Between rom flashes, sure. But as a regular thing to help performance? That just doesn't hold water for me.
I flashed CM7 back around Feb / March but stability was an issue at that point still so I went back to stock. Since then I've never had any issues with running a rooted stock rom on the Nexus S so I never had any interest in most of the custom roms (outside of a few AOSP roms I built myself) as they all seem to introduce little bugs for the most part and I have little use for the "tweaks" and customizations included in most.
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Okay, I've already started afresh with CO2. Going to see how it goes. Kind of going slow on reloading my apps. Maybe I can figure out better at what point performance starts to suffer.
If things don't work out, I will follow your lead. Thanks again!
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Sounds like your memory is simply being used up by open/running apps. I would suggest going into settings -> applications -> development ->checkmark "stop app via long press".
When you are done using an app, hold the back button down. This will close the application and free up memory.
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Sounds like your memory is simply being used up by open/running apps. I would suggest going into settings -> applications -> development ->checkmark "stop app via long press".
When you are done using an app, hold the back button down. This will close the application and free up memory.
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that's the sole reason I've always steered clear of stock roms. That is my absolute favorite feature of CM & variants. I always long press every time I'm done with any app to close it
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Sounds like your memory is simply being used up by open/running apps. I would suggest going into settings -> applications -> development ->checkmark "stop app via long press".
When you are done using an app, hold the back button down. This will close the application and free up memory.
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But, there's a general consensus lately that task killers aren't good for Android. I'm thinking force killing apps would have the same effect. Also, if I have to do that just to get a reasonable experience, where does it leave Android's claim of "True Multitasking"?
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But, there's a general consensus lately that task killers aren't good for Android. I'm thinking force killing apps would have the same effect. Also, if I have to do that just to get a reasonable experience, where does it leave Android's claim of "True Multitasking"?
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Android is a "True Multitasking" system, but also has limitation as others PC or Server.
So if you want good speed, keep your background app clearly is a easy way.
try running v6 supercharger. it should help your device cope a lot better with so many apps on your device. link here. run beta 6.3 with a balanced setting and if you want more performance at the cost of it aggressively closing superfluous apps, go aggressive. also try nitro lag nullifier and don't forget to remove the extra .pdf extension off of the end because it's a shell script (.sh)
Cache has been invented for the sole purpose of speeding up a system or service. Forget about wiping your Dalvik cache and even the regular cache has its purpose on the phone. But that point has been cleared already.
The Nexus has its limitations just like any other device. The RAM can only cope with so much apps, if you fill up your RAM, you'll get lag. It's just a point of being a little bit intelligent with your phone. Unless QC failed at Samsung and you have a faulty device, the Nexus should run really smoothly, regardless of how many apps you have installed (again, within the limitations of the internal memory). But having 50 apps open (just a plain example) will of course have its impact on the device, the same as it would on 'that competing platform'.
Reopening apps is superfast anyway so there really isn't a reason to keep too many of them open. I force close my apps all the time as well and never had it backfire on me, so I don't see how it would have a bad effect.
Of course you can always start playing around with another ROM or overclocking the phone just to get a little bit more juice from it. I'm running on 1.3Ghz at the moment and must say that it improves the general experiences and reduces lag somewhat as well.
Good luck,
Greetz
If it had 1gb ram you would be fine..m.
Can you tell me the benefit or the main reason(s) why you rooted your Inspire?
My main reasons are the ability to change whatever I want. And better battery life.
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Are you serious?
Not to sound mean, but have you ever searched Google or this forum before you thought of asking?
There is tons of information on here... just sayin
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Dinman said:
Are you serious?
Not to sound mean, but have you ever searched Google or this forum before you thought of asking?
There is tons of information on here... just sayin
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Yes I searched. There are no search words that will return results showing specific reasons why a member prefers a custom rom over the stock rom. In older devices a custom ROM would allow you to tether for free, remove bloatware to make room for 3rd party applications, remove buggy 2nd party software, remove unnecessary apps to allow the system to run faster, allow the customization of the UI when it was otherwise un-modifiable or fix glitches that made it through testing on the stock ROM but that doesn't seem to be needed on the Inspire. This is the first device I haven't hacked because so far it seems to be unnecessary. I could read custom ROM threads all day but finding a post where a user cited an issue relieved by using a custom ROM or a major benefit (that's not a trivial figment of their imagination) would be one heck of a needle in a haystack search. So it would be great to get this specific info into a thread.
Custom Roms.
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Yes I searched. There are no search words that will return results showing specific reasons why a member prefers a custom rom over the stock rom. In older devices a custom ROM would allow you to tether for free, remove bloatware to make room for 3rd party applications, remove buggy 2nd party software, remove unnecessary apps to allow the system to run faster, allow the customization of the UI when it was otherwise un-modifiable or fix glitches that made it through testing on the stock ROM but that doesn't seem to be needed on the Inspire. This is the first device I haven't hacked because so far it seems to be unnecessary. I could read custom ROM threads all day but finding a post where a user cited an issue relieved by using a custom ROM or a major benefit (that's not a trivial figment of their imagination) would be one heck of a needle in a haystack search. So it would be great to get this specific info into a thread.
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I prefer stock Android to sense and hate bloatware. I won't buy a phone now until cm7 is available.
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jamespaulritter said:
Yes I searched. There are no search words that will return results showing specific reasons why a member prefers a custom rom over the stock rom. In older devices a custom ROM would allow you to tether for free, remove bloatware to make room for 3rd party applications, remove buggy 2nd party software, remove unnecessary apps to allow the system to run faster, allow the customization of the UI when it was otherwise un-modifiable or fix glitches that made it through testing on the stock ROM but that doesn't seem to be needed on the Inspire. This is the first device I haven't hacked because so far it seems to be unnecessary. I could read custom ROM threads all day but finding a post where a user cited an issue relieved by using a custom ROM or a major benefit (that's not a trivial figment of their imagination) would be one heck of a needle in a haystack search. So it would be great to get this specific info into a thread.
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wait, what? All the things you just said that aren't needed in the stock rom without rooting are actually all reasons why people root the inspire. If you have found another way to remove bloatware without rooting please pass on that information so that those who simply rooted to remove the bloatware can do so without having to go through the entire rooting process. Without rooting you there are a lot of helpful apps you can't run, you can't remove bloatware, you really can't customize anything significant in the UI..I mean really the only reason why I rooted was to remove the pesky bloatware (sorry I just hate looking at blockbuster apps and that stupid teeter game)...the added bonuses of full customization in AOSP roms and the ability to have the performance tweaks in every other rom/kernel just made the decision easier. If you like the stock rom and see nothing wrong..keep on moving, no reason to fix something that isn't broke...I just like having full control over my device..it's for some, it's not for everyone..just my .02 cents
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
wait, what? All the things you just said that aren't needed in the stock rom without rooting are actually all reasons why people root the inspire. If you have found another way to remove bloatware without rooting please pass on that information so that those who simply rooted to remove the bloatware can do so without having to go through the entire rooting process. Without rooting you there are a lot of helpful apps you can't run, you can't remove bloatware, you really can't customize anything significant in the UI..I mean really the only reason why I rooted was to remove the pesky bloatware (sorry I just hate looking at blockbuster apps and that stupid teeter game)...the added bonuses of full customization in AOSP roms and the ability to have the performance tweaks in every other rom/kernel just made the decision easier. If you like the stock rom and see nothing wrong..keep on moving, no reason to fix something that isn't broke...I just like having full control over my device..it's for some, it's not for everyone..just my .02 cents
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+1, pretty much summed up my response.
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
wait, what? All the things you just said that aren't needed in the stock rom without rooting are actually all reasons why people root the inspire. If you have found another way to remove bloatware without rooting please pass on that information so that those who simply rooted to remove the bloatware can do so without having to go through the entire rooting process. Without rooting you there are a lot of helpful apps you can't run, you can't remove bloatware, you really can't customize anything significant in the UI..I mean really the only reason why I rooted was to remove the pesky bloatware (sorry I just hate looking at blockbuster apps and that stupid teeter game)...the added bonuses of full customization in AOSP roms and the ability to have the performance tweaks in every other rom/kernel just made the decision easier. If you like the stock rom and see nothing wrong..keep on moving, no reason to fix something that isn't broke...I just like having full control over my device..it's for some, it's not for everyone..just my .02 cents
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Thanks, I agree. I hate seeing the blockbuster app. I actually went looking for an Obfuscate app to hide it. We use to have to remove the bloatware to make room for 3rd party apps because there was limited ROM. Meaning back in the day we got '32 megs, 64 megs' whatever for apps we wanted so we had to remove bloatware. Its not the issue it once was because now we get 1Gb, 2GB...... The reason I'm asking is because I was thinking of rooting so I could tether reverse wifi. So i'm looking for reasons to take the plunge.
rooting my inspire has made it like a completely different phone. actually, each custom rom is almost a new device itself.
but as far as perks, i like the better battery life, full customization, speed increases (data, smoothness, overclocking, etc.), constant updates, and just the joy of trying out different roms. the definite BEST perk of them all is the simple fact that you can find support for each rom from their respectful devs (not all, but the majority of the popular roms out there). HTC and the various service providers always have terrible support.
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Thanks, I agree. I hate seeing the blockbuster app. I actually went looking for an Obfuscate app to hide it. We use to have to remove the bloatware to make room for 3rd party apps because there was limited ROM. Meaning back in the day we got '32 megs, 64 megs' whatever for apps we wanted so we had to remove bloatware. Its not the issue it once was because now we get 1Gb, 2GB...... The reason I'm asking is because I was thinking of rooting so I could tether reverse wifi. So i'm looking for reasons to take the plunge.
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Yeah man, the droid milestone (the first smartphone from HTC that I remember having) was awesome in regards to bloatware. I was able to remove pretty much anything I wanted, not the case now unfortunately . Pretty much the benefits of rooting are that you get full control of your device, in pretty much every aspect. As for tethering, I'm not 100% that its supported in every ROM but I'm pretty sure there are some out there, if that's what your immediate reason for rooting is I would say start asking in the Q&A in each ROM or hopefully someone else can chime in to help you out. Like I said I rooted to get rid of the dumb bloatware, getting the performance tweaks, battery life, and customization (for most roms but more so in the AOSP ROMs) were just added bonuses
Take control of your device. Imagine being locked out of the C: drive on your computer.
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Thanks, I agree. I hate seeing the blockbuster app. I actually went looking for an Obfuscate app to hide it. We use to have to remove the bloatware to make room for 3rd party apps because there was limited ROM. Meaning back in the day we got '32 megs, 64 megs' whatever for apps we wanted so we had to remove bloatware. Its not the issue it once was because now we get 1Gb, 2GB...... The reason I'm asking is because I was thinking of rooting so I could tether reverse wifi. So i'm looking for reasons to take the plunge.
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Oh just root it already! When you use the Ace hack kit, you can't even tell it's rooted. If you like it just the way it is you can keep it that way. If you don't, try some different ROMs. You can always flash the stock ROM back (or restore it if you backed it up).
If you don't have a huge desire to root, it may not be the thing for you. I'd still recommend rooting though, you wouldn't regret it.
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If you don't have a huge desire to root, it may not be the thing for you. I'd still recommend rooting though, you wouldn't regret it.
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You'll be thinking about rooting it until you do.
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what are the advatages beside running titanium and the like, are the few roms better than the stock in your opinion?
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fred
Would you be ok if microsoft(verizon) sells you a PC(phone) and had you locked out the administrator account... Leaving you with no choice but to use the GUEST account?
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Fred1029 said:
what are the advatages beside running titanium and the like, are the few roms better than the stock in your opinion?
thanks
fred
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I havent seemed to have a whole lot of luck with the "aftermarket" roms. The only one thats really worked for me is the factory rooted rom you flash to get root initially. I have tried AOKP, CM10(one of which did something causing me to need a new sim card to get 4g working again, even after flashing back to factory stock and doing a factory format) and a few stock-based roms(one of which didnt seem to have solid data connections, the other would get stuck at the boot logo for 30 minutes and would never boot.)
My suggestion, if you do root, back-up your IMEI data. There is a thread on this in the development section.
I've been running Synergy and loving it. If there is nothing you want to do extra with your phone then why go to the trouble of rooting it? That said, by rooting you can do things such as install Cerberus (anti-theft software) so that if someone steals your phone they can't even uninstall it. It allows you to remove the bloat that comes with your phone as well.
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Rooting it and flashing a rather vanilla kind of stock ROM so that it has less applications that will hardly if ever be used. Check out kyanROM, that's the ROM I'm currently using and it saves me a ton of battery!
Jcbzr said:
Rooting it and flashing a rather vanilla kind of stock ROM so that it has less applications that will hardly if ever be used. Check out kyanROM, that's the ROM I'm currently using and it saves me a ton of battery!
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there is no kyanrom for verizon
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I flashed the rt66 ROM on the first boot out of the box & I absolutely LOVE it.
I then debloated it, installed AdFree, flashed CWM & installed free wireless tether to take advantage of my unlimited data.
I made a few visual tweaks, changed the battery icon to a white digital readout to get rid of the ugly green battery that didn't match anything else, got rid of the GPS icon etc etc. I use Nova launcher (switched from Apex) mainly to get a landscape home screen option.
I absolutely LOVE my setup, it flies & I have not had one single problem yet. I have yet to have a single FC or freezeup & I couldn't be happier with it.
Perhaps I'm a terrible person... but until I can root this thing the magic just isn't there between us. :crying:
I'm sure it will get rooted soon. Usually only takes a couple of weeks after the official release (based on past experiences)
I'm playing with Samsung pay right now and really digging it. Rooting is supposedly supposed to disable samsung pay. Of course having an at&t device may make that a mute point. They've been all but impossible to root lately.
Don't worry, T-Mobile may be in the same boat.
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While there are still advantages to rooting (man, I miss what I did to my old LG Optimus back in in 2011), it's not nearly as big of a deal to me now. With my work email app, I unfortunately can't root anymore (it still detects root even with xposed root hiding apps) and I haven't really missed it. I probably missed it the most on the Nexus 6P due to the fact that it's vanilla Android. But with all the themes and options available now, I'm just fine with stock.
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While there are still advantages to rooting (man, I miss what I did to my old LG Optimus back in in 2011), it's not nearly as big of a deal to me now. With my work email app, I unfortunately can't root anymore (it still detects root even with xposed root hiding apps) and I haven't really missed it. I probably missed it the most on the Nexus 6P due to the fact that it's vanilla Android. But with all the themes and options available now, I'm just fine with stock.
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I mostly agree... these days flashing a custom rom isn't as necessary as it used to be. But boy are there a lot of things I'd like to do with my stock rom:
Titanium Backup
Custom recovery (TWRP!)
Xposed
All the great apps (Root Explorer, Greenify, etc.)
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I mostly agree... these days flashing a custom rom isn't as necessary as it used to be. But boy are there a lot of things I'd like to do with my stock rom:
Titanium Backup
Custom recovery (TWRP!)
Xposed
All the great apps (Root Explorer, Greenify, etc.)
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Those are all things I like using to make the phone truly mine.
WarAxe said:
I mostly agree... these days flashing a custom rom isn't as necessary as it used to be. But boy are there a lot of things I'd like to do with my stock rom:
Titanium Backup
Custom recovery (TWRP!)
Xposed
All the great apps (Root Explorer, Greenify, etc.)
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Without root there really is no need for customer recovery or Titanium Backup, as those are usually just used for flashing ROMs. So the only things you really want are Xposed and some root apps.
geoff5093 said:
Without root there really is no need for customer recovery or Titanium Backup, as those are usually just used for flashing ROMs. So the only things you really want are Xposed and some root apps.
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Umm... with my new Galaxy S7 Titanium Backup sure would come in handy right now.
And even afterwards I like having app backups so I can restore an app to a previous version or configuration -- I don't do it often, but I do do it. Same thing for having a periodic nandroid backup with all my data (wifi passwords, messages, dictionary, etc... there's a lot of data in there). And besides all the apps there's just a ton of tweaking that you really need root to do. Silence camera, record calls, adblocker, etc etc.