As the thread title says it but lets do little background on why I am getting the MT4G. I just lost my beloved HD2 few days ago and the prick who found it decided to keep it for himself. I hope the karma gets the mofo as I am sure the prick lost some money at the Casino. Who knows maybe kid saw that as sign from god LOL as he wanted him to have it for all his loss that night, lets move on...
If I didn't lose the HD2 I would have never even thought about upgrading my phone unless there was another revolutionary device in the market with spec lets say dual core mobile processor. As HD2 with my custom tweak did hold its own with silly Evo fanboys and got beat down many times lol when they came up to me.
But I can't also ignore the quadrant benchmarks for MT4G against Evo 4G, Vibrant, Nexus S. As the MSM8255 CPU and Adreno 205 GPU blows away the Snapdragon(1st gen)/Hummingbird CPU and Adreno 200/SGX 540 GPU. Also head to head with Epic/G2 this owns it in terms of speed also. But the only thing I am disappointed at is that even now there are no decent GSM based phone following the full HD2 4.3" standard (HD2 had it first so F the Evo fanboys), guess we will have to see if bigger is better. Also it has no FM radio, but I can live with that as I don't listen to radio.
PS: MT4G is selling for $350 ATM and pricks are also asking $300-350 for HD2 so ill let it R.I.P. as I am not welling to pay that price for HD2 when I can get MT4G. I mean I had my for over 10-11months and paid $750 for the Leo1024 (TMoUS Unlocked) model before it even came out in USA.
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I just got mine yesterday, coming over from a Vibrant
I have the "washed out" screen....but as I don't really look at the thing from a 20 degree angle much, I really don't care..looks ok.
The screen isn't the hardest thing to get used to...its lack of capacitive buttons
holy crap, it's almost single handedly made me consider going back..but the phone is just way better
btw, MT4G does indeed have built in FM radio
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I just got mine yesterday, coming over from a Vibrant
I have the "washed out" screen....but as I don't really look at the thing from a 20 degree angle much, I really don't care..looks ok.
The screen isn't the hardest thing to get used to...its lack of capacitive buttons
holy crap, it's almost single handedly made me consider going back..but the phone is just way better
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Trust me the display now confirmed from SONY is way better than the one from SHARP. People say oh I don't look at my phone in 20 deg angles and that is true. We only do that in testing to magnify the results. It is very common to look at the display at smaller angles and while your eyes may be trained to your display you will be blown away if you get a new one with a good display. The colors are more vibrant even face on.
Do yourself a favor read through my thread and see all the comments from others who have thought the same way. Try to get a good one. I would ask for one made in China as they have been having a better ratio of good screens.
Well I am also aware of the washed out and ffc problem. But I refuse to walk in TMo store if I do order it online I doubt CS rep can verify it as they just take order and another dep just ships the item, then again I could be wrong. Now my question is when I do get it how do I verify that its washed out screen? I mean I have nothing to compare it against or is it so bad that I will know?
PS: My bad maybe I was confusing G2 with MT4G about the FM radio, as I went in for G2 but the flimzy hardware keyboard people claimed had problems so I went with the 2nd HSPA+ device currently from TMo.
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Well I am also aware of the washed out and ffc problem. But I refuse to walk in TMo store if I do order it online I doubt CS rep can verify it as they just take order and another dep just ships the item, then again I could be wrong. Now my question is when I do get it how do I verify that its washed out screen? I mean I have nothing to compare it against or is it so bad that I will know?
PS: My bad maybe I was confusing G2 with MT4G about the FM radio, as I went in for G2 but the flimzy hardware keyboard people claimed had problems so I went with the 2nd HSPA+ device currently from TMo.
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You can verify your screen with using this thread with pictures and videos posted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863679
As for changing your device at a local T-Mobile store I have heard of people doing it, so I wouldn't rule this out.
To be honest I returned my phone twice because of the screen and did it completely through the tmobile online chat. Didn't have to goto a store or call or anything. super easy.
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As for changing your device at a local T-Mobile store I have heard of people doing it, so I wouldn't rule this out.
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Just went to the TMO store and asked to check newer MT4Gs to see if they could provide me with a satisfactory replacement.
"They're sealed, so we can't open them," the rep told me. "But you can check out our display model."
The display model (a white MT4G) had the same bad screen and *wayyy* off-center FFC.
"That looks just like yours," he said.
I asked how long this live model had been on display, "since the phone first came out," he said.
After a few minutes he eventually said, "oh, yeah, you can exchange it,"--which is exactly what I was looking for, "but you need your original receipt, because we don't store receipts electronically."
So I'll try the TMO store near my house later today...and I'll bring my original receipt, even though I have a damned strong suspicion that he was lying about not having receipt records on the TMO computer system.
I just unrooted my phone so I'm not turning back now, I'm going to get one with a superior screen before I re-root!
OK, so I hopped onto the TMO online chat support.
I explained the issue and they said I should go to a local TMO store.
I explained that I did that but they were unwilling to compare it to a new MT4G.
So online they said we could troubleshoot.
I asked if their "troubleshooting" had been proven to resolve the screen problem.
They said it's not a known issue and didn't know if it would help.
I provided links to HTC and T-Mobile official message boards. "Here's a 19-page thread about this problem."
They said they're unable to look at links.
They then said I could not exchange it at a store because the remorse period was over.
Whatever...so I go with their "troubleshooting," which was solely to do a master reset.
"Did that resolve the issue?" they asked.
"Nope, the problem remains," I said.
"OK, we'll process an exchange." "But there will be a $9.99 shipping charge."
...and that charge is whether or not the exchanged phone actually resolves the problem.
So all that nonsense...and now I'm going to hit up another local TMO shop to try and resolve this without costing me more.
UPDATE: I just called another local store, explained the situation and they said they'll gladly exchange it as long as it doesn't have physical damage or water damage. Woo-hoo!
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Just went to the TMO store and asked to check newer MT4Gs to see if they could provide me with a satisfactory replacement.
"They're sealed, so we can't open them," the rep told me. "But you can check out our display model."
The display model (a white MT4G) had the same bad screen and *wayyy* off-center FFC.
"That looks just like yours," he said.
I asked how long this live model had been on display, "since the phone first came out," he said.
After a few minutes he eventually said, "oh, yeah, you can exchange it,"--which is exactly what I was looking for, "but you need your original receipt, because we don't store receipts electronically."
So I'll try the TMO store near my house later today...and I'll bring my original receipt, even though I have a damned strong suspicion that he was lying about not having receipt records on the TMO computer system.
I just unrooted my phone so I'm not turning back now, I'm going to get one with a superior screen before I re-root!
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Yes he was lying about not storing the receipt. The tmobile store I go to I know the employees very well. I exchanged my mt4g for another one because of some problems. Well I didn't have the original receipt so the rep went through all the transactions on my account (ive bought many phones and had to replace some) so there were alot but he just had to find it. Luckily for me I know him so it wasnt a problem for him. But yea that rep was just lazy
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Wow, complete fail. I knew I had my doubts about anything made by Kyocera, but I was not prepared for utter cheapness and ugliness of this device. And the screen quality - don't get me started. I felt like I was looking at a Blackberry from 2005.
The dual screen concept is nice and probably will be improved over time. But this first trip out of the barn really is a mule with a broken leg and a bad case of the mange.
If you were tempted to use your EVO trade-up for this device, save your time and money and wait for the EVO 3D.
Right now the only Android MFR's to consider are Motorola and HTC IMHO. Didn't think this device was worth anything anyway
Well OK you can add Samsung to this list
I was looking at this phone when I realized my 2 year was up on April 1st. It seemed interesting but I just knew there wouldn't be any app support for it. I have read a few reviews saying that the hinge, although goofy, is surprisingly strong.
I was going to just wait until the Evo 3D came out and not even get the Evo, but I caved. In a way I'm glad I did though, I have it all rooted and installed C7 on it with Tiamat 3.5.7. I used these forums to customize my hero as well.
Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Dual screen cellphones are a great idea. I personally feel they may be the wave of the future just like multimonitor computer setups are so popular now. However, this phone is little more than proof of concept. Sprint will take a bath on this.
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Thanks for confirming what I already suspected. I have not had a chance to handle one yet, but the looks alone told me it was gonna be el cheapo. Kind of a shame really. The concept is pretty cool. I don't think it's going to last because of the introduction of flexible LED displays in the near future. Much better if you don't have to have a seam in the middle of your display!
Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...
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Right now the only Android MFR's to consider are Motorola and HTC IMHO. Didn't think this device was worth anything anyway
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Don't you mean HTC and Samsung? I don't think you'll find a whole lot of love for the Moto phones here on XDA with the encrypted bootloaders and all.
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Don't you mean HTC and Samsung? I don't think you'll find a whole lot of love for the Moto phones here on XDA with the encrypted bootloaders and all.
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I know some people like the Moto's but I forgot about Samsung and them at the last minute. I'm just glad I didn't forget all together I would have been flammed all over the place
I demo'd this phone in store today, also. Sprint tech was "watching TV" on it at the front counter. Played with it for five minutes:
Hinge has an addicting snap sound to it, as is the whole process of folding/unfolding the phone. Even having a 1GHz Snapdragon, the phone was still laggy (opening apps, scrolling through the drawer). As we all figured, besides the Sprint bloatware, this phone is pretty much AOSP--I don't believe Kyocera ever threw in their own frontend.
Rep was running Sprint TV for roughly twenty minutes, and battery was already down to 78%! Battery percentage indicator is stock, at least. LOL! Kyocera has thrown in an extra battery in the package for a reason.
Screens by themselves are SMALL! We know the specs, but looking at the screen IRL leaves MUCH to be desired. All in all, it's a novelty, at best. You're not getting anything practical out of a dual screen phone unless you ABSOLUTELY need to shave MILLISECONDS off of your time. This phone is a miss for me, which sucks, because I was looking forward to it because my phone upgrade is due in July. EVO 3D, here I come.
My oldest son was buying his finacee an evo while my youngest son and I played the echo...I asked the manager how many they have sold and he said no a one...That was 1:34 pm today.
Within 3 minutes of playing with the echo I was blah....
Picture of my son playing with the echo today.
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Critical battery, guess it's been 2 hours, time to change to the other battery :/...
I bought one yesterday to replace my EVO which I have had since launch and had the extended battery for.
I just cannot understand where all the hate for this phone comes from. With the screens open it is nearly tablet sized. I call this phone more of a "tablet crossover", where it does great as a phone and then when needed gives you a ton of room to work on things in near tablet size.
The phone is also pretty small, but thick. Feels good in hand and in pocket and very well built.
Battery life yesterday was fine mostly connected to wifi. Today will be my first day out and about with it.
It has been buttery smooth for me, no stutters or lags. I've already become used to the small black space between the screens and don't even notice it. Not sure on the comment about the screen quality, both displays are superb in my opinion.
Sure, the phone is different than anything we have seen before. So far it has exceeded my expectations and I don't miss the Evo at all. Can't tell you how nice it is to flip the screens together to get some work done and have all the extra space.
A couple other thoughts -
I have mostly used it with apps full screen in tablet mode, and it has worked beautifully for nearly everything I have tried, including apps like Pulse reader.
Simultask works well also, although I haven't found myself using it that much. Was cool when I saw some mails coming in and I was browsing the web, I brought the mail client into one of the screens and continued to browse as I was reviewing mail. Also it's great how the mail client uses both screens to list mail on one screen and review on another.
Camera app is awesome with how it uses both screens.
Pretty much vanilla android 2.2 all the way around. Very nice in that regard.
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Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...
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Actually, I am good at helping people. Perhaps that is why I have 420 thank-you's compared to your 23. If you spent less time attacking me and more time learning enough about Android where you could assist others, maybe you won't look so foolish by comparison next time?
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I bought one yesterday to replace my EVO which I have had since launch and had the extended battery for.
I just cannot understand where all the hate for this phone comes from. With the screens open it is nearly tablet sized. I call this phone more of a "tablet crossover", where it does great as a phone and then when needed gives you a ton of room to work on things in near tablet size.
The phone is also pretty small, but thick. Feels good in hand and in pocket and very well built.
Battery life yesterday was fine mostly connected to wifi. Today will be my first day out and about with it.
It has been buttery smooth for me, no stutters or lags. I've already become used to the small black space between the screens and don't even notice it. Not sure on the comment about the screen quality, both displays are superb in my opinion.
Sure, the phone is different than anything we have seen before. So far it has exceeded my expectations and I don't miss the Evo at all. Can't tell you how nice it is to flip the screens together to get some work done and have all the extra space.
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As with any phone, it is a matter of taste. For those who are more into utility and care less about aesthetics, this phone is probably fine. However, I am surprised you don't notice that the image quality on the screen is far inferior to the EVO? Like I said, I am a big fan of THIS IDEA, I'm just not a fan of this phone. Seems more like a proof-of-concept than a finished product.
Glad you like your Echo
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Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Oh ****! Hahahahaha
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Not surprising one bit. This was the last time I ever purchased anything from Kyocera. The lens cover decide to close when you turn the power ON and open when you turn the power OFF...after 2wks of pampering.
I'm really nobody special but just thought I'd post my thoughts here. I've been an avid Android user since fall 2009. I went from the Sprint Hero to the Eris, OG Droid, Incredible, DX, and then made the jump to VZW's iPhone in Feb 2011.
The iPhone 4 is a great phone, but I miss Android. My wife has a D2 and wants my iPhone 4. Well 4g is just now being turned on in my area....so........she has approved my purchase of the TB as long as I sell her D2 to help cover the cost!
She gets the iPhone and can Facetime with her sister (they live 3 hours apart).
I'm touching base here, obviously I'm sure that most people are happy with their TB but please let me know what you think?
Is it worth the effort?
What are some things I can do to prep for battery life? I'm considering a second battery and have read about disabling 4g, but I'm not as likely to do this in my area now.
On another note...I'm doing this partly because of the discounted rate we get right now and I'd like to make sure that unlimited 4g data is on there at our current rate.
My last note: I'd never take the D2 over the iPhone...just saying If this doesn't work out I may consider a switch to Sprint when the EVO 3d comes out
Get it. Or not. Its your call and you already know what you want, most likely.
Personally I wouldn't trade my TB for anything. I hate apples overcontrol and 3d is one of the dumbest marketing gimmicks for a phone I have seen in a long time, just saying.
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I would go TB before Iphone 4 twice on Sunday, but I would also grab the extended battery while there
I don't recommend the extra battery thing. Wait till you see how much of a ***** it is to open the battery cover. I've only opened it twice (once to put the SIM/battery in when I first got it, and once a few days ago because I had to do a battery pull). Everytime I open it I feel like I'm going to break the damn thing!
I got a TB, and so far I like it a lot. The only thing I have against it is the battery life (but I have got it down to a manageable level). So if you are away from the charger a lot, grab a spare.
And plus, you can still videochat with the TB. I'm sure that there will be a solution for iphone to TB videochatting out there.
The 4G is wicked fast, to the point I feel like slowing down if I have to get on wifi. Plus, since VZ is not charging premium for 4G access unlike another carrier, and not to mention locking into unlimited data before it goes away some day, these 2 factors convinced me to jump in.
All in all, I recommend.
That sucks, I've considered the inductive charging back but that would rule out the Ballistic HC case.
A few good options; root it and put a good Rom/kernel and/or get the extended battery. I've done both.
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My plan is to stop by BB Mobile during my lunch hour. If they won't match VZW's off-contract price then I'll go across the street to VZW. I just figure I should try to get the RWZ points on top of my bank points
To video chat between a TB and an iPhone 4 OTA just use Skype.
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To video chat between a TB and an iPhone 4 OTA just use Skype.
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I'm waiting for Skype to release their fix before installing it. The wife and her sister currently use Skype, just not on her D2. They use their PC's, but now they'll have another option.
Thanks for the tip.
Yes, the current security flaw is huge. Althought its not even an official release.
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True, and I noticed that I've only got 40 post (with this post). I'm thankful nobody thought I was a troll lol.
I do love this forum, I just try to post when I have something to contribute.
Good choice. I'm going to switch my wife from an iPhone 4. Couldn't be happier with my TB.
I like my TB, wouldn't trade it in and I'm like some people I hate Apple. That does not go to say cause I'm an Android user. TB is my first smart phone, ever.
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Go for it, you'll love the phone.
I have no regrets, even more so since neither Moto or VZW have squashed the rumors of the Bionic being scrapped, which was the device I was waiting for. Add a 1yr contract on top of that, and everything is roses.
As far as battery life.. I bought a spare release day thinking it would be a good idea. I havent used it once..
Keep your auto sync'ing to a minimum, display brightness mid level and dont run battery sucking apps and you're fine. I get through a day no problem with normal use, and I am running slightly OC'd at 1.2GHz.
I have had mine for 26 hours… Here is my impression. Battery life is not bad at all if you turn 4G off which I did because I don’t even have it in my area. Everything else is great… except one of the worst kickstand designs ever designed.
First off it’s on the wrong side so you can’t have the kickstand out and have the USB cable plugged in at the same time. As stupid and terrible of a design that is it’s not that big of a deal as I really don’t see myself using the kickstand that much.
The real problem is that the kickstand covers the speaker!!!!
It’s just beyond me why they did this. You want to talk on speaker, or listen to music, or watch a YouTube video… whatever. Well the audio is going to be muffled compared to if you have the kickstand out always… no matter what. Even if you can hear fine you always know you could hear it better if the kickstand was out. So you will always be walking around holding your phone with the kickstand out for no reason other than just so the speaker won’t be covered.
Its design flaws like this that just drive me f’ing crazy!! I want to just remove the kickstand altogether. It’s something that is a hindrance like 95% of the time and might be a benefit maybe 5%.
Just drives me crazy
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Other than that its awesome.
michaelkahl said:
My plan is to stop by BB Mobile during my lunch hour. If they won't match VZW's off-contract price then I'll go across the street to VZW. I just figure I should try to get the RWZ points on top of my bank points
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After getting an email from VZ saying I was eligible for an upgrade at promo prices, I went to BB to get a Bolt and charge it to my BB card until I sold my Droid X. 15 minutes after the guy at BB Mobile told me I would have to buy at retail price or activate on a new line, I was walking out of Verizon with my new Bolt, charged to my Verizon account. Sold the X the day before my 14 day trial period with the Bolt was over. I was sweating that one out as I didn't really want to go back to my DX after getting to know the TBolt.
Long story even longer, be prepared to hear that you can't get the Bolt from BB at less than full retail. I'm not saying you can't, just be prepared.
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Long story even longer, be prepared to hear that you can't get the Bolt from BB at less than full retail. I'm not saying you can't, just be prepared.
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You are correct and it went down in an ugly fashion. The store manager approved the price match...however the BB Mobile Manager refused to authorize the match. I let them know my disappointment, especially since the store manager approved it. I've worked retail, and if the store manager messed up they usually honored it for that occurrence.
I literally went across the street and purchased the phone from VZW at $130.00 cheaper. The sad thing, I was actually going to purchase an invisible shield and couple of other accessories at BB so it wasn't a total wash if they honored it.
I emailed customer service with the store number and let them know about my experience. It probably won't go anywhere but I really did think that it was messed up, especially since they took me through most of the transaction prior to notifying me.
BTW some beautiful numbers! Not the best, but I'm very happy!
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ah man, i feel your pain.
i've been using android since the g1 with tmobile, switched to the nexus one, got the mytouch 4g then switched to verizon for the thundertold (preorder may i add)
Used the iPhone4 for Verizon for about 3 days and the TB came out so i returned the iphone and got the TB, couldn't use that phone for more than a week. Battery life sucks, phones too big, feels like a brick, and can CAN BE USED AS A DEADLY WEAPON! sad to say i'm using the iphone, again. Only cause this has higher value then any android phone @ verizon and I can get more $ out of it when I sell it.. I was hoping to pick up the Incredible2 but no lte? forget that. Good luck man, hard choice but the iphone isnt that bad..but i'd still take android os over iphone, just not the thunderbolt
Just looked at the one I got from I/O and it had light leakage pretty bad on the left bottom corner. I had to talk to a Samsung Rep and show him to exchange it. He said I was not the first one with this problem. I guess LG is not the only one with quality control issues.
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Most LCD screens will have this.
Does your exchanged unit have this?
Damn, was looking at this or the Playbook.
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Most LCD screens will have this.
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agree. will this ever stop.lol
Buy an AMOLED?
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Buy an AMOLED?
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IIRC there aren't any android tablets with AMOLED display panels yet...
Getting a LCD device an complaining of "light leakage" is akin to purchasing a hummer and complaining of poor gas mileage. That said, I'm not sure why we need a thread about the 10.1 Samsung tablet's "light leakage" in the G2X thread....give it a rest people....
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Getting a LCD device an complaining of "light leakage" is akin to purchasing a hummer and complaining of poor gas mileage. That said, I'm not sure why we need a thread about the 10.1 Samsung tablet's "light leakage" in the G2X thread....give it a rest people....
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QFT
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Getting a LCD device an complaining of "light leakage" is akin to purchasing a hummer and complaining of poor gas mileage. That said, I'm not sure why we need a thread about the 10.1 Samsung tablet's "light leakage" in the G2X thread....give it a rest people....
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Haha...very true.
It's inevitable. LCD screens are LCD screens like he said.
It doesn't bother most people..
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Just looked at the one I got from I/O and it had light leakage pretty bad on the left bottom corner. I had to talk to a Samsung Rep and show him to exchange it. He said I was not the first one with this problem. I guess LG is not the only one with quality control issues.
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This forum needs quality control with posts like these
LCD's are NOT supposed to have bleeding. i've only had 1 phone ever besides the g2x that had screen bleed and i returned it and new one didn't have it. my g2x now doesn't have it (had to get through 5 to find one though but hey problem solved).
just because most phones cost $500 these days instead of $50-$100 10 years ago doesn't mean that the bar should be dropped on quality. $500 is a lot of money not to mention $700-$1100 for tablets. theres no excuse for poor quality so don't listen to people who say you should just be ok with that. you would only be allowing companies to keep producing poor quality items if they don't get returned so the company can see first hand the profit losses from poor quality control. the reason people pay a billion dollars for a phone is so they can have a TOP END device.
its sad that people are getting so used to paying such high costs that they would be ok with paying several hundred $ for an item made incorrectly, then consider this to just be normal, and then tell others that "that's just how it is." that mentality only makes things worse for everyone in the long run.
that sucks about the galaxy though cuz samsung usually makes good screens. weird though sense they were reporting on doing a $7.8 billion deal this year with Apple to sell apple processors and LCD screens for the iphone and ipad (yeah its true, read it on engaget. apple is pretty much samsung but with their iOS) even know they were suing each other, lol. makes sense why ipad2 has some bleeding on some units though. i heard LG did some of the ipad2 screens too (from a tmobile rep). which may or may not be true though.
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Getting a LCD device an complaining of "light leakage" is akin to purchasing a hummer and complaining of poor gas mileage. That said, I'm not sure why we need a thread about the 10.1 Samsung tablet's "light leakage" in the G2X thread....give it a rest people....
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I think its more like buying a hummer with the tint on the window peeling. sure you can live with it, not many people will notice it, but would you still keep it or have them fix it?
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I think its more like buying a hummer with the tint on the window peeling. sure you can live with it, not many people will notice it, but would you still keep it or have them fix it?
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+1 to that
Foot five to that.
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I dont know why everyone just keeps saying that LCD screens just leak light. Thats not at all true. Ive had an iphone, G1, Mytouch 3g, Nexus One and G2 and none of those had light leakage. I dont understand if its just suppose to happen then why are other companies keeping their QC under control?
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its sad that people are getting so used to paying such high costs that they would be ok with paying several hundred $ for an item made incorrectly, then consider this to just be normal, and then tell others that "that's just how it is." that mentality only makes things worse for everyone in the long run.
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Amen Brother! And for some a TWO YEAR CONTRACT! I found from the G2Xforum how many ppl are content with mediocrity with the products they purchase. I had my G2X for a week before I took it back I've been waiting for the intial production wave to go through before going back. If it persists then ill move on to the next device.
If you think this is bad? Nokia N73 was horrible.
4 dots of leak shows on one side of the screen. How do think?
I was trying to compare it to my G2x....geez.
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as you can see from the enormous line, the phone is total win.
this was taken 10 minutes before they opened.
p.s. that lady just wanted a new battery for her phone and was upset that the store was still closed.
oh man.....
Heh this makes me laugh. I was pissed this morning when I had to head down to the VZW store to get a battery for a work colleague. I was expecting to have to wait forever. They had all these roped off areas with red carpet laid down and not one person standing in line.
I think with the upcoming Rezound and Galaxy Nexus, most people will wait to compare all three before making a decision. I know I will.
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I think with the upcoming Rezound and Galaxy Nexus, most people will wait to compare all three before making a decision. I know I will.
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we've already compared y0.
No one in their right mind is getting the RAZR, so it just comes down to the other 2.
And it's not that the Nexus is better then the Rezound(or vice versa)... just moreso which one is more suited to the individual's needs/tastes.
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we've already compared y0.
No one in their right mind is getting the RAZR, so it just comes down to the other 2.
And it's not that the Nexus is better then the Rezound(or vice versa)... just moreso which one is more suited to the individual's needs/tastes.
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Finally figured that out eh? About time you stopped pushing that one was superior over the other.
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I'm sorry that I don't get this Moto bashing. Sure the first gen Razrs were well, not all that great, but they did their jobs well. Hey they were the most phones sold worldwide.
Either way, the new one looks pretty decent, what's the bad about it? The specs were not all that bad, from what I saw, so why the hate?
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I'm sorry that I don't get this Moto bashing. Sure the first gen Razrs were well, not all that great, but they did their jobs well. Hey they were the most phones sold worldwide.
Either way, the new one looks pretty decent, what's the bad about it? The specs were not all that bad, from what I saw, so why the hate?
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Nice phone except for the locked and encrypted bootloader, and the non-removable battery. Have fun with your Moto iPhone.
Oh goody kevlar reinforced iphone p.o.s.
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I'm sorry that I don't get this Moto bashing. Sure the first gen Razrs were well, not all that great, but they did their jobs well. Hey they were the most phones sold worldwide.
Either way, the new one looks pretty decent, what's the bad about it? The specs were not all that bad, from what I saw, so why the hate?
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the screen is horrible compared to the rezound and galaxy nexus. Non-removable battery is another potential problem. The phone is very wide and doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all.
Just came back from best buy looking to play with the rezound, razr and kindle fire.
1. Razr battery was dead, was locked up in a cabinet instead of on display. Got to hold it but wouldn't stay on.
2. Only 1 Rezound in stock and none on display, asked why, they said they haven't really set up for it.
3. Fire hadn't even arrived yet to be put on display.
Total fail by best buy. Best Buy, The Borders of 2012.
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the screen is horrible compared to the rezound and galaxy nexus. Non-removable battery is another potential problem. The phone is very wide and doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all.
Just came back from best buy looking to play with the rezound, razr and kindle fire.
1. Razr battery was dead, was locked up in a cabinet instead of on display. Got to hold it but wouldn't stay on.
2. Only 1 Rezound in stock and none on display, asked why, they said they haven't really set up for it.
3. Fire hadn't even arrived yet to be put on display.
Total fail by best buy. Best Buy, The Borders of 2012.
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heh.. the Best Buy Mobile in the mall here had 'dummy' RAZR & Rezound phones on display. They said they have Rezounds in stock, but have yet to receive any RAZR's.
reminds me of when the hd7 launched on t-mobile. Had to go to 3 stores to find one that even had a demo unit. None of them had set up for it on launch day. Sad that carriers don't get it. If you advertise the phone, it will sell.
Yeah I don't particularly care for the RAZR (or any Motorola products). That being said, I got to play with the RAZR and it was okay. The screen sounds bad on paper, but in person, its not the end of the world. Screen was passable, still totally usable. My store actually sold just 1 RAZR, but it was a more of a swap than a return. Haha.
But then I got to play with the Galaxy Nexus and that screen was muchhhh nicer. ICS was all flashy, and to be quite honest, a bit confusing, but I guess that's expected since a lot has changed.
Also played with the Rezound and I very much liked that phone. Screen was also beautiful, and still quality HTC build materials.
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reminds me of when the hd7 launched on t-mobile. Had to go to 3 stores to find one that even had a demo unit. None of them had set up for it on launch day. Sad that carriers don't get it. If you advertise the phone, it will sell.
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The first T-Mobile store that I went to had a live demo sitting behind the counter. I got to play with it while they activated my HD7. This was a week before the actual release day too. But yes, I agree, having phones out helps to sell them.
I entered the 11/11/11 sweepstakes on Verizon's Twitter and i won a free Droid Razr, nice! I will be giving it to my wife maybe of she performs ( insert lude sex act here ) for a ( insert a crazy lenght of time here ) I wish it came a few days back I mean come on I just bought her a phone off ebay for 100 bucks.
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Hello.
It kills me to admit that my brand new $ 1200 surface pro has some light bleeding around the botton right and right areas of the screen.
Ive looked it up a but and it seems that this was an earlier issue so I actually didnt think there would be a chance I would end up facing this problem. I havent seen any complaints throughout may-june.
Here are 2 pics:
First one is with the place lit at the boot screen.
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Second one is with lights out, black image on full screen.
They are both with brightness at 100%, but it really doesnt make that much differene if it's set to 50%.
What do you guys think? I shouldnt be expecting those right? I know that people had much worse bleeds once, but that was before.
I also dont want to keep exchanging till I get a good one, that's too much of a hassle. So if you tell me that all of them are probably be the same I wont exchange.
It bugs me that such an expensive device would present this kind of irritating and ugly problem after 6 months in production.
Warranty claim. Your entitled so why not :/
The thing is im visiting canada right now, and thats where I bought it. The store is called future shop.
Im still within the 14 return/exchange period.
And now im seriously thinking whether I should return it for good, keep mine or get it replaced, hoping the new one would be free from defects.
Get it replaced under warranty. At FutureShop, ideally, but any Microsoft store should replace it no trouble. That's definitely a defect; the backlights shouldn't be *visible* in that way at all.
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Get it replaced under warranty. At FutureShop, ideally, but any Microsoft store should replace it no trouble. That's definitely a defect; the backlights shouldn't be *visible* in that way at all.
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But what if the next one is the same or even worse? Isnt it likely that he whole batch sent to the sae store would have the same production issues?
Test it before you take it home, get a refund if they can't provide a non-defective model? Leaving aside the fact that it's highly unlikely that an entire production run has a visually obvious defect, this is Consumer Electronics 101. Hell, it's Being A Customer 101. If somebody sold you a defective toaster, you'd take it back under warranty. If somebody sold you a defective Ferrari, you'd take it back under warranty.
I agree. Keep asking for one till you get one that satisfies you. You paid for it, so you deserve to get a fully functional product.
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I agree. Keep asking for one till you get one that satisfies you. You paid for it, so you deserve to get a fully functional product.
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Thanks guys. You encouraged me. The thing is Im aware how most stores behave when such things happen. They will start to make things difficult, creating excuses and so on and on. I hate that.
Also, could you give me some ideas on how to test it for light bleeding in a bright lit store?
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Thanks guys. You encouraged me. The thing is Im aware how most stores behave when such things happen. They will start to make things difficult, creating excuses and so on and on. I hate that.
Also, could you give me some ideas on how to test it for light bleeding in a bright lit store?
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request to take it to a storage cupboard?
Here in the UK if a shop starts being awkward normally just just whip your phone out, make it highly obvious that your searching for the trading standards number, perhaps going as far as almost pressing the dial button and then they'll usually give in but from what I hear the US equivalent of trading standards are useless so shops might ignore the same threat.
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request to take it to a storage cupboard?
Here in the UK if a shop starts being awkward normally just just whip your phone out, make it highly obvious that your searching for the trading standards number, perhaps going as far as almost pressing the dial button and then they'll usually give in but from what I hear the US equivalent of trading standards are useless so shops might ignore the same threat.
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You're right. That's why I always buy from stores that have great customer service. Microsoft store and apple store at good examples. They just replace it till you're happy
I've had issues like this with my ipad back when I had it. Its not normal and you shouldnt have any trouble getting it replaced if you take it into the shop again. They should know about these things.