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I know that most people that get smartphones don't usually put design at the top of their list, but... Why are smartphones beginning to look alike? I know that I am probably not the only one that notices this, but shouldn't companies do something innovative with the design of smartphones? For the most part, nearly every smartphone looks like a rectangle with curved edges.

lol and what you had in mind man? Thats like reinventing the wheel, but hey they can improve the design but I am sure it will remain similar as alot of research went in to it. Far as the curved edge goes specially in NS its to much I want my device flat lol in this case I hate to say as iPhone is best example.
iPhone 4 shell and LG Optimus 2X hardware with 4.5" display would be my dream device ill never upgrade it. Dell Steak well thats another matter but hey never watched StarTrek? ever saw those assignment pads looks like small tablets? lol

A few things are being done to change phone design a bit, but right now I think most are either very niche because of bad insides to match, or just a design/prototype for now. Most still use the same rectangle I think, but change a lot in the basic design
This one seems like a great idea, If it could be expanded upon it could be turned into a proper book-style thing for ebooks
http://www.pcworld.com/article/217119/holy_multitouch_batman_its_the_threescreen_smartphone.html
And there's the Motorola Flipout
http://www.cnet.com.au/motorola-flipout-339306728.htm
And the Continuum, with 2 screens
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/11/samsungs-continuum-the-galaxy-s-gains-a-little-ticker/

Its clear man you don't obviously own a freaking communicator.
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Yall keep using your primitive "chell phoans" ill stick with my superior communicator.

STHNS said:
lol and what you had in mind man? Thats like reinventing the wheel, but hey they can improve the design but I am sure it will remain similar as alot of research went in to it. Far as the curved edge goes specially in NS its to much I want my device flat lol in this case I hate to say as iPhone is best example.
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Maybe some small changes, not major, but distinctive enough to make them not boring. The myTouch 4g and the Sony Xperia Arc are distinctive enough in my opinion. Even the Incredible does something different with it's rather odd battery door (I still don't get what HTC was thinking).
From a distance, you can't really tell the difference between the HTC EVO, HTC Desire HD, and HTC Thunderbolt. Same goes with the Samsung Focus, Nexus S, Vibrant, Fasinate, Epic (without revealing keyboard obviously) along with some of their newer phones. Most of the dual core phones look the same as well.
Oh and a white phone would be nice even though I prefer black.
For tablets, there is not much to be done. Unless of course, the Microsoft Courier comes to life.
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This one seems like a great idea, If it could be expanded upon it could be turned into a proper book-style thing for ebooks
http://www.pcworld.com/article/217119/holy_multitouch_batman_its_the_threescreen_smartphone.html
And there's the Motorola Flipout
http://www.cnet.com.au/motorola-flipout-339306728.htm
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I like the idea of a three screen smartphone, oh and changing the led color reminds me of Alienware.
They also have the Backflip, the Charm and the Droid Pro. Yet, some of the Motorola phones aren't as creative in terms of design.

Do any of you remember seeing the Nokia N90 for the first time? Lots of companies want to innovate, but probably worry about loss of profits it the design is bad.
If you want to see "innovation," you can check out shanzai.com and check out their selection of phones. It is basically a website that shows fake/copied versions of current phones avaliable in the world (usually from China). The "innovation" part being some of the designs may make you think WTF.

"This one seems like a great idea, If it could be expanded upon it could be turned into a proper book-style thing for ebooks
http://www.pcworld.com/article/217119/holy_multitouch_batman_its_the_threescreen_smartphone.html"
Thanks for showing this. It is indeed a remarkable looking device.
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Yeah, if that got off the ground and made into a full phone, it'd be great
Oh and a white phone would be nice even though I prefer black.
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I've thought that myself before, but it wouldn't work too well around the front because the black works as a great contrast to make the screen look better. I think that's why iPhone has white only on the back

copius said:
Do any of you remember seeing the Nokia N90 for the first time? Lots of companies want to innovate, but probably worry about loss of profits it the design is bad.
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The n90 does look a little weird, but feature phones are more likely to be distinguishable from one and another. Than again, they are feature phones.
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I've thought that myself before, but it wouldn't work too well around the front because the black works as a great contrast to make the screen look better. I think that's why iPhone has white only on the back
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A white BlackBerry Bold does look a little weird. Although, the European Hero/HTC Legend does look nice. Maybe if buttonless phones are invented, we might see more white phones.

I would love to have more for options; unless im missing something, it is just s different color platic right? I can understand that it would complicate production of the phone and all, but I would love some color variants.
Hell, they could even sell one phone as is and charge to have the plates swapped out at official carrier stores; sort of like getting parts of an iphone fixed at an apple store.

canadariot2312 said:
From a distance, you can't really tell the difference between the HTC EVO, HTC Desire HD, and HTC Thunderbolt.
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Regarding Evo and Desire HD it's pretty logical as DHD is the European version of Evo.
FLAC Vest said:
I would love to have more for options; unless im missing something, it is just s different color platic right? I can understand that it would complicate production of the phone and all, but I would love some color variants.
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Like you I would like to be able to choose between different colors but it's certainly more expensive to produce different colors than only one as you have to launch different batch campaigns while you launch only one if you stick to one color.
But I'm not sure this is the only reason manufacturers stick to classical colors (black or grey). I think that most people prefer a classical color and green, red, pink colors would sell not as good as black.
Another design: have you seen the HTC Tube concept? It's really gorgeous.

Well, like you said, they can only do so much you know? But you also have to remember that theyre trying to sell a phone, and that means speaking to as many different types of people as possible. This results in somewhat limited design because they cant stray too far from.... well black; how many adults want a colorful phone? But thats just taking something like color into account.

I don't know what other guys think about it, but for me I only concentrate on smartphone's functions.
I thinks smartphone is starting like NB, similar design with similar hw, except the Logo;-)
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It would be nice if manufacturers added some customisation options into the phones they sell. Being able to have an engraving done when ordering a Nexus One from Google was a nice touch.
Perhaps more colour schemes and custom designed or patterned rear covers etc to help individualise our devices and set them apart.

Moving from Atrix 4G

Hi guys, i am thinking of moving across from my Atrix 4G to the Infuse and was hoping to get some questions asnwered without trolling through here for hours.
I like my Atrix overall as a phone, but the locked bootloader is putting a dampener on my wishes to flash true ROMS. So, can you answer a few question for me please?
1. How do you find the quality of the phone overall?
2. What is battery life like?
3. Is it good performance wise (does the extra clock speed make eup for the older gen processor) ?
4. Are the ROMS available supported well with updates and feature adding?

ricko2169 said:
Hi guys, i am thinking of moving across from my Atrix 4G to the Inspire and was hoping to get some questions asnwered without trolling through here for hours.
I like my Atrix overall as a phone, but the locked bootloader is putting a dampener on my wishes to flash true ROMS. So, can you answer a few question for me please?
1. How do you find the quality of the phone overall?
2. What is battery life like?
3. Is it good performance wise (does the extra clock speed make eup for the older gen processor) ?
4. Are the ROMS available supported well with updates and feature adding?
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well it is not an arm a9 or dual core but it runs better than the other hummingbird phones due to extra ram and a quality job on the firmware.
build quality is good, parts fit much tighter than motorola and internals look more professional than htc but it feels kinda flimsy, not as rugged as the captivate was. it is just too large, too thin, and the plastic is too light and not rigid enough, this construction was great for a smaller phone like the galaxy s but is questionable on a phone this big and thin. that said it is not likely to break, i have dropped mine a few times i just wish it had a metal frame in there.
the hummingbird is very fast, it wont always beat the tegra but on some benchmarks it can get better frame rates especially with kernel mods. my 3d scores in antutu on my capivate were double what any stock phone had on the list when i was using a custom kernel. on the other hand the hummingbird is not well supported by the game develpoers probably because of lower popularity in america and because the tegra represents the next generation and the snapdragon is more popular and more clockable, future snapdragons will see 1.4ghz and up on the same core they are currently using.
so since it doesnt have the gaming dev it deserves (can be helped with chainfire 3d) the advantage of the hummingbird comes down to media playback. the hummingbird can playback H.264 mkv files at a higher class than the tegra, it is only beat by apples a5 in the ipad2 and the orion chip in the sgs2 with video playback. when gingerbread is available it will play those files even better.
so maybe it isnt as fast as the tegra2, but it is faster(slightly) in specific areas. im not saying one or the other is better but dont look at the hummingbird as an old processor just yet. other than that it has good battery life and the dev section is in it's infancy. when there is a kernel dev things will get alot better, if you want to help us get a kernel dev then donate to netarchy in the donations thread. for now the roms are good quality, the devs that are here are good with giving people what they want and at modding apps.

ricko2169 said:
Hi guys, i am thinking of moving across from my Atrix 4G to the Inspire and was hoping to get some questions asnwered without trolling through here for hours.
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You are on the Infuse 4g not Inspire.
But anyway. We have gray ROMs and bettery battery, my 2 friend I let them.play with my infuse, they both have atrix , not they are both selling it on craiflist, even though this is just single core they told me they can see no difference, but me I don't know anything about the atrix because I don't have one, but most of the things I heard that atrix has bad battery and heat issues.
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You are on the Infuse 4g not Inspire
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Thanks, fixed that. Im in the correct forum, just wrote the wrong phone down.
I have no heat issues, and great battery life with my Atrix, its only lack of bootloader access that is putting me off.

I had the Atrix before this phone.....I'm just saying the difference is like STONE to PILLOW. Literally... TouchWiz in camperason to Moto Blur is 10X better. Plus in less then a month this phone is probably going to have some awesome ROMs...true ROMs at that. Now if you use the laptop dock and other Atrix accessories all the time dont change its not worth the loss of $500+. Now Atrix fans might argue that it has dual cores... well the Atrix might have that, but its hardly noticeable. If you want a all around better phone the Infuse is the phone for you.

dayton1202 said:
I had the Atrix before this phone.....I'm just saying the difference is like STONE to PILLOW. Literally... TouchWiz in camperason to Moto Blur is 10X better. Plus in less then a month this phone is probably going to have some awesome ROMs...true ROMs at that. Now if you use the laptop dock and other Atrix accessories all the time dont change its not worth the loss of $500+. Now Atrix fans might argue that it has dual cores... well the Atrix might have that, but its hardly noticeable. If you want a all around better phone the Infuse is the phone for you.
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I agree with everyone and motorola and most reviewers agree. Atrix has the processor, but motorblur and the implementation of android on motorola just blows.

dayton1202 said:
I had the Atrix before this phone.....I'm just saying the difference is like STONE to PILLOW. Literally... TouchWiz in camperason to Moto Blur is 10X better. Plus in less then a month this phone is probably going to have some awesome ROMs...true ROMs at that. Now if you use the laptop dock and other Atrix accessories all the time dont change its not worth the loss of $500+. Now Atrix fans might argue that it has dual cores... well the Atrix might have that, but its hardly noticeable. If you want a all around better phone the Infuse is the phone for you.
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I hear ya, though it would be likely even touch wiz would go as I am yet to find a phone companies launcher that meets my needs. I must say though the new version of Motoblur in the upcoming GB update looks to be a huge improvement.
Things like notification power settings and custom kernels are attractive to me and frankly don't look like a reality on the Atrix any time soon (second init seems like a lot of mucking around).
Also 4.5 inches of OLED goodness is attractive.

I moved from the Atrix to the Infuse last weekend. I can honestly say I'm 100% happy and won't go back to the Atrix. I had done my research prior to swapping them out so the first thing I did was installed the 1.2 infused rom. This is EXACTLY what I was hoping to get out of a rom with the Atrix, but it just wasn't happening. In real world performance, you really can't tell that the processors are different. I'm a tech nerd so I figured "OMG I can't go back to a single core." I was wrong. I haven't found a single thing about the Infuse that I would want to be more like the Atrix.
TL/DR
Performance differences are non-existant in every day use. The screen is AMAZING to look at. I can't stop looking.
edit: to answer your questions
1. Quality feels solid. Lighter materials don't always mean lesser quality.
2. Battery life is fine. As long as you don't expect to stream pandora over 3g/4g for 12 hours on battery, the phone lasts all day.
3. Performance is even better than anticipated.
4. Infused ROM has been awesome.

ricko2169 said:
I hear ya, though it would be likely even touch wiz would go as I am yet to find a phone companies launcher that meets my needs. I must say though the new version of Motoblur in the upcoming GB update looks to be a huge improvement.
Things like notification power settings and custom kernels are attractive to me and frankly don't look like a reality on the Atrix any time soon (second init seems like a lot of mucking around).
Also 4.5 inches of OLED goodness is attractive.
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It's. Amoled Plus. Love saying that, but it only starts there.
Why would you want a dualcore when you can have a single core that don't lag at all and doesn't drain your battery that much.
I even use this keyboard (picture below) so I don't need to stretch my thumbs to reach the middle keys lol
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rjan22 said:
It's. Amoled Plus. Love saying that, but it only starts there.
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It's even better, it's super amoled plus

[Q] I get my Infuse tomorrow!

So, after dealing with the samsung captivate (until it broke) and using my backup phone (lg quantum) until my buttons are losing functionality, I decided it was time to upgrade. I was going to get the atrix at first, but then I read the forums and people were like, "hissssssssssss, Atrix!" so I went to the Inspire, which I planned on getting until the lady at the AT&T store told me I should only have to charge it twice a day.
Only.
So here I am again! purchasing a samsung device I swore I would never buy again. After reading some reviews and threads on this forum, I must say it seems like a fairly solid device! Can anybody give me any advice on what to expect when my new phone comes? What threads are really relevant to a new Infuse owner?
Thank you in advance, I always trust XDA!
Also... the case I'm getting for it http://www.amazon.com/Case-Mate-CM0..._1_5?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1314913318&sr=1-5
Because I want my phone to look like a storm trooper >

I love my Infuse. 100000000% better than the Inspire. The battery is great however I ordered the extended battery and it's amazing with that. Solid device for sure. Only issue is the stock browser so I froze it and use Dolphin which is awesome and fixed the problem.

shiftylock said:
So, after dealing with the samsung captivate (until it broke) and using my backup phone (lg quantum) until my buttons are losing functionality, I decided it was time to upgrade. I was going to get the atrix at first, but then I read the forums and people were like, "hissssssssssss, Atrix!" so I went to the Inspire, which I planned on getting until the lady at the AT&T store told me I should only have to charge it twice a day.
Only.
So here I am again! purchasing a samsung device I swore I would never buy again. After reading some reviews and threads on this forum, I must say it seems like a fairly solid device! Can anybody give me any advice on what to expect when my new phone comes? What threads are really relevant to a new Infuse owner?
Thank you in advance, I always trust XDA!
Also... the case I'm getting for it http://www.amazon.com/Case-Mate-CM0..._1_5?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1314913318&sr=1-5
Because I want my phone to look like a storm trooper >
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Funny looking case, almost iPhone-ish LOL
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With the exception of GPS, all is well.
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With the exception of GPS, all is well.
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No, the GPS is fine, your just expecting too much.
You must be one of the "2 or 3" people with GPS complaints.
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I have that same case in grey but I couldn't keep it on. The phone is just too beautiful and slim to cover up in a case that thick.
Sent from my Infuse running Serendipity VII beautifully.

hmm... see, I would like to not use the case, but also with my captivate the back of it would get scratched if I didn't have a case on it, and it looks like the same back cover as the captivate... hmmm.... but still, if it makes my phone look like an iphone I'll just not use it.
I wouldn't want to look like I forgot to get the bigger GB's.
It's really great to hear good stories about this phone. I usually use dolphin browser anyway, so meh. Is rooting/flashing the same process as the captivate? I would assume since they're pretty similar phones...

I agree it needs something to protect the camera lens but I am looking for something more slim. For now it stays in my pocket or in my hands.
Rooting processes differ slightly from what I understand but once you're rooted, loading custom ROMS is pretty much the same. I never had a captivate but I did have a n1 for a while. The only real difference is the number of ROMS available for the infuse so far.
Sent from my Serendipity infused Infuse.

Oh and in no way does this phone even resemble an iPhone... case or no case. The screen is the dead giveaway. LOL.
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So, gps is an issue with the infuse?

Gratz on the Infuse, ugh why that case >< You gotta get the Seidio Surface Case! Looks way sessier then any other case!
Make sure the first thing you do is root and add the Infused v2.1 ROM man, outside the box the phone kinda blows ><
Edit: And believe me their is nothing wrong with the Atrix! That phone is a beast for gaming, just everything looks so much better on this 4.5" Super AMOLED+ screen

Eddie Bombay said:
Gratz on the Infuse, ugh why that case >< You gotta get the Seidio Surface Case! Looks way sessier then any other case!
Make sure the first thing you do is root and add the Infused v2.1 ROM man, outside the box the phone kinda blows ><
Edit: And believe me their is nothing wrong with the Atrix! That phone is a beast for gaming, just everything looks so much better on this 4.5" Super AMOLED+ screen
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*face/palm* if only I scrolled down before ordering! ahhh! at least the case will protect it. I mean I doubt my phone will still be as thick as an evo lol.
But yeah I heard the atrix had a ton of problems, plus the whole bootloader thing... meh, motorola lost me at after my RAZR.
So I'm going to put that Infused ROM on there the day after I get it. (or the same day, depending on how long I can stand being on stock.)
Does anybody use juicedefender with this phone? I could get a cool 2 days out of my cappy with that app running.

Yeah you gotta be crazy NOT to use Juice Defender.
This is what I get on average with Juice Defender.
Around x1.68 to x1.78
Seems most people who cry about the Atrix don't even really own one and those who do never really gave it a chance. Once you mod that phone up it's a monster. Oh well the Infuse is a beast w/ that 4.5" screen hands down.

Eddie Bombay said:
Yeah you gotta be crazy NOT to use Juice Defender.
This is what I get on average with Juice Defender.
Around x1.68 to x1.78
Seems most people who cry about the Atrix don't even really own one and those who do never really gave it a chance. Once you mod that phone up it's a monster. Oh well the Infuse is a beast w/ that 4.5" screen hands down.
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Wow! That looks really good! I'm now even more psyched about my Infuse!
And you're right. If for some reason I end up not liking my infuse, I'll just return it and get an atrix. the atrix is easily my second choice.

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And you're right. If for some reason I end up not liking my infuse, I'll just return it and get an atrix. the atrix is easily my second choice.
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I used Atrix, and returned it under 4 days. Once u r accustomed to the screen on Captivate, the only phone u can go ahead is Infuse (as of today). I tried Inspire and Atrix, and returned for battery and for screen and Insprire even had lots of dropped calls. Atrix was better on battery, but well, that's not the only thing that counts, esp when u have a charger at home, in car, and at work

one of the worst phone in the market!

If you're expecting a large improvement over the Captivate, prepare to be disappointed.
Otherwise it's a solid but unexceptional phone.

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Yeah you gotta be crazy NOT to use Juice Defender.
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I did some testing, and despite TELLING me I was getting nearly double the battery life, I was actually getting worse than not having it at all.

Stock browser is complete crap compared to the one in infused rom. Stock browser lags bad, crashes and stutters viewing 480p youtube videos and stock rom will be laggy while scrolling though homepages. First thing to do when you get the phone is to flash infused 2.1.0 and infusion kernel overcklocked to 1.6ghz this phone will fly like crazy. Everything will be smooth as butter and with dozens of widgets and live wallpaper there will be no lag while moving thorough homepages. The browser will be super fast and have no lag at all and you will be able to play 1080p youtube videos without any lag. All games will have zero lag and no slowdowns. In particular i noticed on stock rom fast 5 game would stutter alot, but with infused rom it flies. This phone is much better than the crappy captivate i had half a year ago. The gps just works and tracks well. Wifi is a bit weaker than other phones, but still pretty good. The camera is one of the best out of smart phones. And finally that beautiful screen which will make everyone jealous.

Wait till you get in the car with friends and this thing flips on you. It was stormy weather few days ago and this thing decided not to lock, my buddy pulled out a 5 year old Samsung blackjack, got a 10s lock and we took off. 45 mins later, I got the lock.
If you install Copilot, your GPS will go bonkers. Unacceptable performance.
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my local Verizon's big RAZR launch

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as you can see from the enormous line, the phone is total win.
this was taken 10 minutes before they opened.
p.s. that lady just wanted a new battery for her phone and was upset that the store was still closed.

oh man.....

Heh this makes me laugh. I was pissed this morning when I had to head down to the VZW store to get a battery for a work colleague. I was expecting to have to wait forever. They had all these roped off areas with red carpet laid down and not one person standing in line.

I think with the upcoming Rezound and Galaxy Nexus, most people will wait to compare all three before making a decision. I know I will.

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I think with the upcoming Rezound and Galaxy Nexus, most people will wait to compare all three before making a decision. I know I will.
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we've already compared y0.
No one in their right mind is getting the RAZR, so it just comes down to the other 2.
And it's not that the Nexus is better then the Rezound(or vice versa)... just moreso which one is more suited to the individual's needs/tastes.

voxigenboy said:
we've already compared y0.
No one in their right mind is getting the RAZR, so it just comes down to the other 2.
And it's not that the Nexus is better then the Rezound(or vice versa)... just moreso which one is more suited to the individual's needs/tastes.
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Finally figured that out eh? About time you stopped pushing that one was superior over the other.

Noob Question
I'm sorry that I don't get this Moto bashing. Sure the first gen Razrs were well, not all that great, but they did their jobs well. Hey they were the most phones sold worldwide.
Either way, the new one looks pretty decent, what's the bad about it? The specs were not all that bad, from what I saw, so why the hate?

tazz5150 said:
I'm sorry that I don't get this Moto bashing. Sure the first gen Razrs were well, not all that great, but they did their jobs well. Hey they were the most phones sold worldwide.
Either way, the new one looks pretty decent, what's the bad about it? The specs were not all that bad, from what I saw, so why the hate?
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Nice phone except for the locked and encrypted bootloader, and the non-removable battery. Have fun with your Moto iPhone.

Oh goody kevlar reinforced iphone p.o.s.
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tazz5150 said:
I'm sorry that I don't get this Moto bashing. Sure the first gen Razrs were well, not all that great, but they did their jobs well. Hey they were the most phones sold worldwide.
Either way, the new one looks pretty decent, what's the bad about it? The specs were not all that bad, from what I saw, so why the hate?
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the screen is horrible compared to the rezound and galaxy nexus. Non-removable battery is another potential problem. The phone is very wide and doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all.
Just came back from best buy looking to play with the rezound, razr and kindle fire.
1. Razr battery was dead, was locked up in a cabinet instead of on display. Got to hold it but wouldn't stay on.
2. Only 1 Rezound in stock and none on display, asked why, they said they haven't really set up for it.
3. Fire hadn't even arrived yet to be put on display.
Total fail by best buy. Best Buy, The Borders of 2012.

nrfitchett4 said:
the screen is horrible compared to the rezound and galaxy nexus. Non-removable battery is another potential problem. The phone is very wide and doesn't feel comfortable in the hand at all.
Just came back from best buy looking to play with the rezound, razr and kindle fire.
1. Razr battery was dead, was locked up in a cabinet instead of on display. Got to hold it but wouldn't stay on.
2. Only 1 Rezound in stock and none on display, asked why, they said they haven't really set up for it.
3. Fire hadn't even arrived yet to be put on display.
Total fail by best buy. Best Buy, The Borders of 2012.
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heh.. the Best Buy Mobile in the mall here had 'dummy' RAZR & Rezound phones on display. They said they have Rezounds in stock, but have yet to receive any RAZR's.

reminds me of when the hd7 launched on t-mobile. Had to go to 3 stores to find one that even had a demo unit. None of them had set up for it on launch day. Sad that carriers don't get it. If you advertise the phone, it will sell.

Yeah I don't particularly care for the RAZR (or any Motorola products). That being said, I got to play with the RAZR and it was okay. The screen sounds bad on paper, but in person, its not the end of the world. Screen was passable, still totally usable. My store actually sold just 1 RAZR, but it was a more of a swap than a return. Haha.
But then I got to play with the Galaxy Nexus and that screen was muchhhh nicer. ICS was all flashy, and to be quite honest, a bit confusing, but I guess that's expected since a lot has changed.
Also played with the Rezound and I very much liked that phone. Screen was also beautiful, and still quality HTC build materials.
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reminds me of when the hd7 launched on t-mobile. Had to go to 3 stores to find one that even had a demo unit. None of them had set up for it on launch day. Sad that carriers don't get it. If you advertise the phone, it will sell.
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The first T-Mobile store that I went to had a live demo sitting behind the counter. I got to play with it while they activated my HD7. This was a week before the actual release day too. But yes, I agree, having phones out helps to sell them.

I entered the 11/11/11 sweepstakes on Verizon's Twitter and i won a free Droid Razr, nice! I will be giving it to my wife maybe of she performs ( insert lude sex act here ) for a ( insert a crazy lenght of time here ) I wish it came a few days back I mean come on I just bought her a phone off ebay for 100 bucks.
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First Impressions Thread

I decided to create this thread for those of us that got the device already and want to discuss our first impressions of the device. It seems us posting stuff in the shipping thread is cluttering it up for people who are still waiting for the device.
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The build quality is pretty astounding. I picked up my Pixel XL and kind of felt bad for it.
It's not as snappy as the Pixel.
The hardware buttons take some getting used to.
Haven't messed with the camera yet.
Textra isn't working properly and I'm not sure why. The send button doesn't do anything. I had to enable "use enter key to send"

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The build quality is pretty astounding. I picked up my Pixel XL and kind of felt bad for it.
It's not as snappy as the Pixel.
The hardware buttons take some getting used to.
Haven't messed with the camera yet.
Textra isn't working properly and I'm not sure why. The send button doesn't do anything. I had to enable "use enter key to send"
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I agree about the Pixel being snappier. I have the smaller pixel and it's for sure snappier and more fluid. I love this device though.. It's beautiful. I haven't messed with the camera much either yet.
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My first impression was actually pretty bad. The rest of my post actually belongs in the build quality thread so Ill put it there.

The design is very nice! Everything else like software pretty bad.
I think this is the fastest time I have decided to return a device

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The design is very nice! Everything else like software pretty bad.
I think this is the fastest time I have decided to return a device
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How can software be bad? It's stock Android. Didn't you know what stock Android is?
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worldsoutro said:
The design is very nice! Everything else like software pretty bad.
I think this is the fastest time I have decided to return a device
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lol.

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lol.
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I tried to be nice, its a beautiful phone but then you turn it on and its like eh

As far as snappyness, is it something like the transitions being slow or something else?
To make it more snappy, go into developer options and set the transition speed to .5 instead of 1. That should make things seem to zip.

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As far as snappyness, is it something like the transitions being slow or something else?
To make it more snappy, go into developer options and set the transition speed to .5 instead of 1. That should make things seem to zip.
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animations to .5 is what I do on every device I own as one of the first things out of the box. It's for sure nowhere near as fluid as the pixel. It does open apps up quicker in some cases, but scrolling through lists, webpages, the feed in Google now is not as smooth as it is on the Pixel

Feels so good in the hand, update was waiting when I tried to set up. Have to see if it's not snappy as others have mentioned and I too have used pretty much every flagship so will immediately know if this thing lags or hiccups are there. Will update in few hours.
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Interesting, but not surprising. The Pixel has proven again and again that it is a finely polished machine software wise. The kicker for me keeping this device or returning/selling it will be the Pixel 2 XL. Nothing else really blips my radar otherwise. OEM theming from the likes of LG/Samsung writes them off since they also are always locked down as all heck. After using a Nexus I am hoping the Essential can gain some form of similar following, but if not, Pixel 2 may be the only option... We shall see...

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Interesting, but not surprising. The Pixel has proven again and again that it is a finely polished machine software wise. The kicker for me keeping this device or returning/selling it will be the Pixel 2 XL. Nothing else really blips my radar otherwise. OEM theming from the likes of LG/Samsung writes them off since they also are always locked down as all heck. After using a Nexus I am hoping the Essential can gain some form of similar following, but if not, Pixel 2 may be the only option... We shall see...
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If the XL 2 is smaller footprint wise than the current XL then I'll most likely get that. I like smaller phones. I would have loved a smaller Pixel 2 with no bezels. I'm kinda pissed at Google for not making two exactly the same devices like they did for the first gen (with exception of screen size/resolution and battery) this time around. If I want the smaller pixel, I'm gonna a have to deal with the bezels again. Lol last year I ordered both the xl and smaller one. Returned the smaller one and kept the XL then switched to the smaller one and freaking love it. I have Google sending me a replacement (figured I'd get more to sell a refurbished device than an almost year old device) and now I'm not sure I want to sell it. I might just hold on to it until the 2 drops.
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My only gripe I can see from the leaks is if LG really is making the XL, well then we have LG's shoddy build quality to worry about.
Luckily it looks like the V30 isn't as bad as the G6/G5,etc and hopefully we may possibly be past the bootloop issue of the past 2 years from them? (Knock on wood).
HTC may not have the bezzle sizes figured out, but their build quality has been pretty reliable working with metal for a long time now. LG is still new to that gig.

I wouldn't trust LG at all. The V30 looks nice, and I have seen V20s out in the wild, but after dealing with the G5 and past devices I wouldn't trust them at ALL.

Not sure what you guys are talking about. This is much faster than the gaalxy s8 I turned off and it the same speed if not slightly better than the pixel.

Not sure if it's because I have been using a friend's S8 during the time I was waiting for my Essential Phone to show up or what, but the Essential phone looks really nice but the sharp edges make it feel like a much larger phone than it really is.
Oh and the camera lag...
It is a bit upsetting with all the anticipation while waiting and I am already considering returning it.
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It is a bit upsetting with all the anticipation while waiting and I am already considering returning it.
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Could it be due to all the negativity, it has tainted your first impressions?

I'm getting weird scrolling lag. Anyone else noticed this?
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I'm getting weird scrolling lag. Anyone else noticed this?
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Guess I should clarify. It's almost as if the screen sensitivity is not calibrated right. When I try to scroll very slow it is not smooth at all. Doing stuff like fast scrolling is fine but slow movements not so much.
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Coming from a 6p and 5x I like this phone. NIce feel in the hand, it's substantial . Fits in my 5x case but of course the buttons are rong lol.
I am going to have to play with display as it doesn't turn on quickly when I pick it up, sure its just a setting.
Edit: nope, still wont turn on when I pick up the ph. Still does not register touches around the edge for menus and such, that kinda annoying.
All my apps set up much quicker than I remember from the other 2 devices and it will take me a few hours to get it setup the way I like it ( root plz )
The cut out for front cam will take some getting used to.
Edit: used to it
God stock android is just yech, I can hardly wait till substratum is rootless or we get root.
Sound wise I'll listen to it at work tomorrow and see how the adapter works with my sennies but I already had a Tron BT adapter that I really like.
Edit: sounds great with adapter or BT. Adapter lets the sennies use its inline controls for vol, skip.
I am less fussy than most ppl and I needed a phone, couldn't wait for big G to get off their butts so this.
I hope Essential gets out updates in a timely fashion, if that doesn't happen THEN it gets the axe.
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Still not sure what i'll do, its a really nice phone. IF Essential steps up and TELLS us something, i'll be much happier.
Cables: PH1 is REALLY fussy about what cable you use, what worked for my 6P might for PH1, only google cable worked when using fastboot.
Android Auto sometimes connects and likely disconnects no matter what cable .
Fingerprint reader is hella fast ! BUT now I can't get into smart security tab? grrr
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