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Just tried the New Sprint Echo - Don't Bother.

Wow, complete fail. I knew I had my doubts about anything made by Kyocera, but I was not prepared for utter cheapness and ugliness of this device. And the screen quality - don't get me started. I felt like I was looking at a Blackberry from 2005.
The dual screen concept is nice and probably will be improved over time. But this first trip out of the barn really is a mule with a broken leg and a bad case of the mange.
If you were tempted to use your EVO trade-up for this device, save your time and money and wait for the EVO 3D.

Right now the only Android MFR's to consider are Motorola and HTC IMHO. Didn't think this device was worth anything anyway
Well OK you can add Samsung to this list

I was looking at this phone when I realized my 2 year was up on April 1st. It seemed interesting but I just knew there wouldn't be any app support for it. I have read a few reviews saying that the hinge, although goofy, is surprisingly strong.
I was going to just wait until the Evo 3D came out and not even get the Evo, but I caved. In a way I'm glad I did though, I have it all rooted and installed C7 on it with Tiamat 3.5.7. I used these forums to customize my hero as well.

Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Jasonhunterx said:
Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Dual screen cellphones are a great idea. I personally feel they may be the wave of the future just like multimonitor computer setups are so popular now. However, this phone is little more than proof of concept. Sprint will take a bath on this.
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Thanks for confirming what I already suspected. I have not had a chance to handle one yet, but the looks alone told me it was gonna be el cheapo. Kind of a shame really. The concept is pretty cool. I don't think it's going to last because of the introduction of flexible LED displays in the near future. Much better if you don't have to have a seam in the middle of your display!

Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...

nohbdyshero said:
Right now the only Android MFR's to consider are Motorola and HTC IMHO. Didn't think this device was worth anything anyway
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Don't you mean HTC and Samsung? I don't think you'll find a whole lot of love for the Moto phones here on XDA with the encrypted bootloaders and all.

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Don't you mean HTC and Samsung? I don't think you'll find a whole lot of love for the Moto phones here on XDA with the encrypted bootloaders and all.
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I know some people like the Moto's but I forgot about Samsung and them at the last minute. I'm just glad I didn't forget all together I would have been flammed all over the place

I demo'd this phone in store today, also. Sprint tech was "watching TV" on it at the front counter. Played with it for five minutes:
Hinge has an addicting snap sound to it, as is the whole process of folding/unfolding the phone. Even having a 1GHz Snapdragon, the phone was still laggy (opening apps, scrolling through the drawer). As we all figured, besides the Sprint bloatware, this phone is pretty much AOSP--I don't believe Kyocera ever threw in their own frontend.
Rep was running Sprint TV for roughly twenty minutes, and battery was already down to 78%! Battery percentage indicator is stock, at least. LOL! Kyocera has thrown in an extra battery in the package for a reason.
Screens by themselves are SMALL! We know the specs, but looking at the screen IRL leaves MUCH to be desired. All in all, it's a novelty, at best. You're not getting anything practical out of a dual screen phone unless you ABSOLUTELY need to shave MILLISECONDS off of your time. This phone is a miss for me, which sucks, because I was looking forward to it because my phone upgrade is due in July. EVO 3D, here I come.

My oldest son was buying his finacee an evo while my youngest son and I played the echo...I asked the manager how many they have sold and he said no a one...That was 1:34 pm today.
Within 3 minutes of playing with the echo I was blah....
Picture of my son playing with the echo today.
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Critical battery, guess it's been 2 hours, time to change to the other battery :/...

I bought one yesterday to replace my EVO which I have had since launch and had the extended battery for.
I just cannot understand where all the hate for this phone comes from. With the screens open it is nearly tablet sized. I call this phone more of a "tablet crossover", where it does great as a phone and then when needed gives you a ton of room to work on things in near tablet size.
The phone is also pretty small, but thick. Feels good in hand and in pocket and very well built.
Battery life yesterday was fine mostly connected to wifi. Today will be my first day out and about with it.
It has been buttery smooth for me, no stutters or lags. I've already become used to the small black space between the screens and don't even notice it. Not sure on the comment about the screen quality, both displays are superb in my opinion.
Sure, the phone is different than anything we have seen before. So far it has exceeded my expectations and I don't miss the Evo at all. Can't tell you how nice it is to flip the screens together to get some work done and have all the extra space.

A couple other thoughts -
I have mostly used it with apps full screen in tablet mode, and it has worked beautifully for nearly everything I have tried, including apps like Pulse reader.
Simultask works well also, although I haven't found myself using it that much. Was cool when I saw some mails coming in and I was browsing the web, I brought the mail client into one of the screens and continued to browse as I was reviewing mail. Also it's great how the mail client uses both screens to list mail on one screen and review on another.
Camera app is awesome with how it uses both screens.
Pretty much vanilla android 2.2 all the way around. Very nice in that regard.

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DomSim said:
Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...
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Actually, I am good at helping people. Perhaps that is why I have 420 thank-you's compared to your 23. If you spent less time attacking me and more time learning enough about Android where you could assist others, maybe you won't look so foolish by comparison next time?

mhoepfin said:
I bought one yesterday to replace my EVO which I have had since launch and had the extended battery for.
I just cannot understand where all the hate for this phone comes from. With the screens open it is nearly tablet sized. I call this phone more of a "tablet crossover", where it does great as a phone and then when needed gives you a ton of room to work on things in near tablet size.
The phone is also pretty small, but thick. Feels good in hand and in pocket and very well built.
Battery life yesterday was fine mostly connected to wifi. Today will be my first day out and about with it.
It has been buttery smooth for me, no stutters or lags. I've already become used to the small black space between the screens and don't even notice it. Not sure on the comment about the screen quality, both displays are superb in my opinion.
Sure, the phone is different than anything we have seen before. So far it has exceeded my expectations and I don't miss the Evo at all. Can't tell you how nice it is to flip the screens together to get some work done and have all the extra space.
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As with any phone, it is a matter of taste. For those who are more into utility and care less about aesthetics, this phone is probably fine. However, I am surprised you don't notice that the image quality on the screen is far inferior to the EVO? Like I said, I am a big fan of THIS IDEA, I'm just not a fan of this phone. Seems more like a proof-of-concept than a finished product.
Glad you like your Echo

Jasonhunterx said:
Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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totally agree....... +1

DomSim said:
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Oh ****! Hahahahaha
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Not surprising one bit. This was the last time I ever purchased anything from Kyocera. The lens cover decide to close when you turn the power ON and open when you turn the power OFF...after 2wks of pampering.

Considering a return

I'm really nobody special but just thought I'd post my thoughts here. I've been an avid Android user since fall 2009. I went from the Sprint Hero to the Eris, OG Droid, Incredible, DX, and then made the jump to VZW's iPhone in Feb 2011.
The iPhone 4 is a great phone, but I miss Android. My wife has a D2 and wants my iPhone 4. Well 4g is just now being turned on in my area....so........she has approved my purchase of the TB as long as I sell her D2 to help cover the cost!
She gets the iPhone and can Facetime with her sister (they live 3 hours apart).
I'm touching base here, obviously I'm sure that most people are happy with their TB but please let me know what you think?
Is it worth the effort?
What are some things I can do to prep for battery life? I'm considering a second battery and have read about disabling 4g, but I'm not as likely to do this in my area now.
On another note...I'm doing this partly because of the discounted rate we get right now and I'd like to make sure that unlimited 4g data is on there at our current rate.
My last note: I'd never take the D2 over the iPhone...just saying If this doesn't work out I may consider a switch to Sprint when the EVO 3d comes out

Get it. Or not. Its your call and you already know what you want, most likely.
Personally I wouldn't trade my TB for anything. I hate apples overcontrol and 3d is one of the dumbest marketing gimmicks for a phone I have seen in a long time, just saying.
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I would go TB before Iphone 4 twice on Sunday, but I would also grab the extended battery while there

I don't recommend the extra battery thing. Wait till you see how much of a ***** it is to open the battery cover. I've only opened it twice (once to put the SIM/battery in when I first got it, and once a few days ago because I had to do a battery pull). Everytime I open it I feel like I'm going to break the damn thing!

I got a TB, and so far I like it a lot. The only thing I have against it is the battery life (but I have got it down to a manageable level). So if you are away from the charger a lot, grab a spare.
And plus, you can still videochat with the TB. I'm sure that there will be a solution for iphone to TB videochatting out there.
The 4G is wicked fast, to the point I feel like slowing down if I have to get on wifi. Plus, since VZ is not charging premium for 4G access unlike another carrier, and not to mention locking into unlimited data before it goes away some day, these 2 factors convinced me to jump in.
All in all, I recommend.

That sucks, I've considered the inductive charging back but that would rule out the Ballistic HC case.

A few good options; root it and put a good Rom/kernel and/or get the extended battery. I've done both.
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My plan is to stop by BB Mobile during my lunch hour. If they won't match VZW's off-contract price then I'll go across the street to VZW. I just figure I should try to get the RWZ points on top of my bank points

To video chat between a TB and an iPhone 4 OTA just use Skype.
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JoseGutierrez said:
To video chat between a TB and an iPhone 4 OTA just use Skype.
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I'm waiting for Skype to release their fix before installing it. The wife and her sister currently use Skype, just not on her D2. They use their PC's, but now they'll have another option.
Thanks for the tip.

Yes, the current security flaw is huge. Althought its not even an official release.
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True, and I noticed that I've only got 40 post (with this post). I'm thankful nobody thought I was a troll lol.
I do love this forum, I just try to post when I have something to contribute.

Good choice. I'm going to switch my wife from an iPhone 4. Couldn't be happier with my TB.

I like my TB, wouldn't trade it in and I'm like some people I hate Apple. That does not go to say cause I'm an Android user. TB is my first smart phone, ever.
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Go for it, you'll love the phone.
I have no regrets, even more so since neither Moto or VZW have squashed the rumors of the Bionic being scrapped, which was the device I was waiting for. Add a 1yr contract on top of that, and everything is roses.
As far as battery life.. I bought a spare release day thinking it would be a good idea. I havent used it once..
Keep your auto sync'ing to a minimum, display brightness mid level and dont run battery sucking apps and you're fine. I get through a day no problem with normal use, and I am running slightly OC'd at 1.2GHz.

I have had mine for 26 hours… Here is my impression. Battery life is not bad at all if you turn 4G off which I did because I don’t even have it in my area. Everything else is great… except one of the worst kickstand designs ever designed.
First off it’s on the wrong side so you can’t have the kickstand out and have the USB cable plugged in at the same time. As stupid and terrible of a design that is it’s not that big of a deal as I really don’t see myself using the kickstand that much.
The real problem is that the kickstand covers the speaker!!!!
It’s just beyond me why they did this. You want to talk on speaker, or listen to music, or watch a YouTube video… whatever. Well the audio is going to be muffled compared to if you have the kickstand out always… no matter what. Even if you can hear fine you always know you could hear it better if the kickstand was out. So you will always be walking around holding your phone with the kickstand out for no reason other than just so the speaker won’t be covered.
Its design flaws like this that just drive me f’ing crazy!! I want to just remove the kickstand altogether. It’s something that is a hindrance like 95% of the time and might be a benefit maybe 5%.
Just drives me crazy
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Other than that its awesome.

michaelkahl said:
My plan is to stop by BB Mobile during my lunch hour. If they won't match VZW's off-contract price then I'll go across the street to VZW. I just figure I should try to get the RWZ points on top of my bank points
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After getting an email from VZ saying I was eligible for an upgrade at promo prices, I went to BB to get a Bolt and charge it to my BB card until I sold my Droid X. 15 minutes after the guy at BB Mobile told me I would have to buy at retail price or activate on a new line, I was walking out of Verizon with my new Bolt, charged to my Verizon account. Sold the X the day before my 14 day trial period with the Bolt was over. I was sweating that one out as I didn't really want to go back to my DX after getting to know the TBolt.
Long story even longer, be prepared to hear that you can't get the Bolt from BB at less than full retail. I'm not saying you can't, just be prepared.

slim6596 said:
Long story even longer, be prepared to hear that you can't get the Bolt from BB at less than full retail. I'm not saying you can't, just be prepared.
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You are correct and it went down in an ugly fashion. The store manager approved the price match...however the BB Mobile Manager refused to authorize the match. I let them know my disappointment, especially since the store manager approved it. I've worked retail, and if the store manager messed up they usually honored it for that occurrence.
I literally went across the street and purchased the phone from VZW at $130.00 cheaper. The sad thing, I was actually going to purchase an invisible shield and couple of other accessories at BB so it wasn't a total wash if they honored it.
I emailed customer service with the store number and let them know about my experience. It probably won't go anywhere but I really did think that it was messed up, especially since they took me through most of the transaction prior to notifying me.

BTW some beautiful numbers! Not the best, but I'm very happy!
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ah man, i feel your pain.
i've been using android since the g1 with tmobile, switched to the nexus one, got the mytouch 4g then switched to verizon for the thundertold (preorder may i add)
Used the iPhone4 for Verizon for about 3 days and the TB came out so i returned the iphone and got the TB, couldn't use that phone for more than a week. Battery life sucks, phones too big, feels like a brick, and can CAN BE USED AS A DEADLY WEAPON! sad to say i'm using the iphone, again. Only cause this has higher value then any android phone @ verizon and I can get more $ out of it when I sell it.. I was hoping to pick up the Incredible2 but no lte? forget that. Good luck man, hard choice but the iphone isnt that bad..but i'd still take android os over iphone, just not the thunderbolt

offGRID Rechargeable Battery case for Infuse

anyone had the chance to bought this? It looks really nice and extra juice
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...=samsung&q_model=prod5100347#fbid=zJy0LnMtnj1
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I'm going to my local AT&T store tomorrow to check this out. I like!

I can only see the iPhone version on Incipio's site. This must be really new...let us know if AT&T stores are actually stocking these!

I hope it's 2000+mAp or I am not getting it.
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rjan22 said:
anyone had the chance to bought this? It looks really nice and extra juice
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...=samsung&q_model=prod5100347#fbid=zJy0LnMtnj1
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That's cool, but this phone is already huge, in the picture it makes it look like it adds 20% more height and 10% more width. For battery it might be worth it tho, hehe. Anyone know how much it is? ... oh just saw $70 ... ouch, hmm. I bought an original second battery on eBay for $20, and it's doing the trick for those times when I run too low

Agree. A 2nd battery is good enough for me. Don't wanna add more weight / size to the phone
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bella92108 said:
That's cool, but this phone is already huge, in the picture it makes it look like it adds 20% more height and 10% more width. For battery it might be worth it tho, hehe. Anyone know how much it is? ... oh just saw $70 ... ouch, hmm. I bought an original second battery on eBay for $20, and it's doing the trick for those times when I run too low
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Don't worry bella, it's no bigger or heavier than the GIANT shells/cases/whatever many of us decide to put on our phones anyway.
It weighs 2 oz and ADDS 1450mAh battery capacity.
I'll probably get one to use on trips, etc. Not much of a daily driver for me at that weight. The Infuse weighs just under 5 oz naked.
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Agree. A 2nd battery is good enough for me. Don't wanna add more weight / size to the phone
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I guess the reasoning is here that you have the 2nd battery already attached to the phone, and you don't have to carry it around separately somewhere.

tankmorph said:
Don't worry bella, it's no bigger or heavier than the GIANT shells/cases/whatever many of us decide to put on our phones anyway.
It weighs 2 oz and ADDS 1450mAh battery capacity.
I'll probably get one to use on trips, etc. Not much of a daily driver for me at that weight. The Infuse weighs just under 5 oz naked.
I guess the reasoning is here that you have the 2nd battery already attached to the phone, and you don't have to carry it around separately somewhere.
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*STING* ... lol, guess I deserved that, haha. If I see a big bulge in your pants, I'll remember it's your phone tho, so I'm not confused it might be something else, ehhe *sting back!*...
At 1450 mah it's not spectacular, but great for a road trip or flights to Asia... I'd just as soon carry extra batteries at $25 each, since I can get 1750 mah x 3 for the same price you paid for 1450, but I definitely understand the all-in-one concept, makes sense.
I wonder how long it will be before the line gets blurred between a 7" tablet and a 4.5" phone... I like the Dell streak aside from the fact it's dell, so maybe soon...

bella92108 said:
I wonder how long it will be before the line gets blurred between a 7" tablet and a 4.5" phone... I like the Dell streak aside from the fact it's dell, so maybe soon...
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I do tend to think of my Infuse as a mini-tablet that is more or less pocketable. In fact, I haven't touched my iPad since I got it.
My fiancee did suggest I leave my phone in the car when we went to my daughter's kindergarten graduation today. It does create quite a bulge. I'm sure she didn't want me garnering any extra attention from the soccer moms. She tends to be the jealous type.

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I do tend to think of my Infuse as a mini-tablet that is more or less pocketable. In fact, I haven't touched my iPad since I got it.
My fiancee did suggest I leave my phone in the car when we went to my daughter's kindergarten graduation today. It does create quite a bulge. I'm sure she didn't want me garnering any extra attention from the soccer moms. She tends to be the jealous type.
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Yeh, I think guys and girls carry messenger bags or purses or some sort of backpack many places, so a few years ago I'd have called you crazy for suggesting a 4.5" phone, but now that I have one, I kinda want an updated 7" Galaxy Tab w\ voice\data capability. I almost pulled the trigger and bought the International Version of the Galaxy Tab 7" (it's unlocked, has voice and SMS enabled)... but given the slow processor I opted to wait until a more viable option comes out soon. I never hold a phone up to my head, and 90% of my use is text\data.... so I think it's my next natural step in evolution.
And LOL on the comment about the soccer moms w\ phone in pocket, hahaha

I wonder how this solution would have any side effect on the overall lifetime of the samsung battery inside tje phone.
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briansj said:
I wonder how this solution would have any side effect on the overall lifetime of the samsung battery inside tje phone.
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I don't think it will make that much of a difference. It's the same as plugging it into the charger. Besides, the stock battery is replaceable and cheap.
Now if I were using the offGRID case on the iPhone, I might wonder about the long term effect on that internal, hard(er) to replace and (more) expensive battery.

briansj said:
Agree. A 2nd battery is good enough for me. Don't wanna add more weight / size to the phone
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But how do you charge it, I hate that removing the battery and charging the other one on the phone, I hope there is a dock charger for it might be a good buy.
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rjan22 said:
But how do you charge it, I hate that removing the battery and charging the other one on the phone, I hope there is a dock charger for it might be a good buy.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Dock-Tr...726026?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4cf7bac14a

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http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Dock-Tr...726026?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4cf7bac14a
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I ordered that one but they sent me the captivate, I message them on eBay and they will ship another, I'm gonna use the dock for the original battery, I haven't bought the extra original battery yet, I will first check the 2 batteries that comes with it. Hope be here in 2 weeks.
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By the way they have the offgrid battery on stock here.
www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=336772
You might wana check it out.
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How Much
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I don't think it will make that much of a difference. It's the same as plugging it into the charger. Besides, the stock battery is replaceable and cheap.
Now if I were using the offGRID case on the iPhone, I might wonder about the long term effect on that internal, hard(er) to replace and (more) expensive battery.
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How much are you selling them for on Ebay?

tnayrbj said:
How much are you selling them for on Ebay?
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Huh?
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It seems like the offGRID Rechargeable Battery case for Infuse has disappeared from the AT&T site. I hope it still becomes available. I would only use it a few times a month but it sure would come in handy for those days.

in stock
has anyone found a link to this that is in stock?

Moving from Atrix 4G

Hi guys, i am thinking of moving across from my Atrix 4G to the Infuse and was hoping to get some questions asnwered without trolling through here for hours.
I like my Atrix overall as a phone, but the locked bootloader is putting a dampener on my wishes to flash true ROMS. So, can you answer a few question for me please?
1. How do you find the quality of the phone overall?
2. What is battery life like?
3. Is it good performance wise (does the extra clock speed make eup for the older gen processor) ?
4. Are the ROMS available supported well with updates and feature adding?

ricko2169 said:
Hi guys, i am thinking of moving across from my Atrix 4G to the Inspire and was hoping to get some questions asnwered without trolling through here for hours.
I like my Atrix overall as a phone, but the locked bootloader is putting a dampener on my wishes to flash true ROMS. So, can you answer a few question for me please?
1. How do you find the quality of the phone overall?
2. What is battery life like?
3. Is it good performance wise (does the extra clock speed make eup for the older gen processor) ?
4. Are the ROMS available supported well with updates and feature adding?
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well it is not an arm a9 or dual core but it runs better than the other hummingbird phones due to extra ram and a quality job on the firmware.
build quality is good, parts fit much tighter than motorola and internals look more professional than htc but it feels kinda flimsy, not as rugged as the captivate was. it is just too large, too thin, and the plastic is too light and not rigid enough, this construction was great for a smaller phone like the galaxy s but is questionable on a phone this big and thin. that said it is not likely to break, i have dropped mine a few times i just wish it had a metal frame in there.
the hummingbird is very fast, it wont always beat the tegra but on some benchmarks it can get better frame rates especially with kernel mods. my 3d scores in antutu on my capivate were double what any stock phone had on the list when i was using a custom kernel. on the other hand the hummingbird is not well supported by the game develpoers probably because of lower popularity in america and because the tegra represents the next generation and the snapdragon is more popular and more clockable, future snapdragons will see 1.4ghz and up on the same core they are currently using.
so since it doesnt have the gaming dev it deserves (can be helped with chainfire 3d) the advantage of the hummingbird comes down to media playback. the hummingbird can playback H.264 mkv files at a higher class than the tegra, it is only beat by apples a5 in the ipad2 and the orion chip in the sgs2 with video playback. when gingerbread is available it will play those files even better.
so maybe it isnt as fast as the tegra2, but it is faster(slightly) in specific areas. im not saying one or the other is better but dont look at the hummingbird as an old processor just yet. other than that it has good battery life and the dev section is in it's infancy. when there is a kernel dev things will get alot better, if you want to help us get a kernel dev then donate to netarchy in the donations thread. for now the roms are good quality, the devs that are here are good with giving people what they want and at modding apps.

ricko2169 said:
Hi guys, i am thinking of moving across from my Atrix 4G to the Inspire and was hoping to get some questions asnwered without trolling through here for hours.
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You are on the Infuse 4g not Inspire.
But anyway. We have gray ROMs and bettery battery, my 2 friend I let them.play with my infuse, they both have atrix , not they are both selling it on craiflist, even though this is just single core they told me they can see no difference, but me I don't know anything about the atrix because I don't have one, but most of the things I heard that atrix has bad battery and heat issues.
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You are on the Infuse 4g not Inspire
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Thanks, fixed that. Im in the correct forum, just wrote the wrong phone down.
I have no heat issues, and great battery life with my Atrix, its only lack of bootloader access that is putting me off.

I had the Atrix before this phone.....I'm just saying the difference is like STONE to PILLOW. Literally... TouchWiz in camperason to Moto Blur is 10X better. Plus in less then a month this phone is probably going to have some awesome ROMs...true ROMs at that. Now if you use the laptop dock and other Atrix accessories all the time dont change its not worth the loss of $500+. Now Atrix fans might argue that it has dual cores... well the Atrix might have that, but its hardly noticeable. If you want a all around better phone the Infuse is the phone for you.

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I had the Atrix before this phone.....I'm just saying the difference is like STONE to PILLOW. Literally... TouchWiz in camperason to Moto Blur is 10X better. Plus in less then a month this phone is probably going to have some awesome ROMs...true ROMs at that. Now if you use the laptop dock and other Atrix accessories all the time dont change its not worth the loss of $500+. Now Atrix fans might argue that it has dual cores... well the Atrix might have that, but its hardly noticeable. If you want a all around better phone the Infuse is the phone for you.
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I agree with everyone and motorola and most reviewers agree. Atrix has the processor, but motorblur and the implementation of android on motorola just blows.

dayton1202 said:
I had the Atrix before this phone.....I'm just saying the difference is like STONE to PILLOW. Literally... TouchWiz in camperason to Moto Blur is 10X better. Plus in less then a month this phone is probably going to have some awesome ROMs...true ROMs at that. Now if you use the laptop dock and other Atrix accessories all the time dont change its not worth the loss of $500+. Now Atrix fans might argue that it has dual cores... well the Atrix might have that, but its hardly noticeable. If you want a all around better phone the Infuse is the phone for you.
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I hear ya, though it would be likely even touch wiz would go as I am yet to find a phone companies launcher that meets my needs. I must say though the new version of Motoblur in the upcoming GB update looks to be a huge improvement.
Things like notification power settings and custom kernels are attractive to me and frankly don't look like a reality on the Atrix any time soon (second init seems like a lot of mucking around).
Also 4.5 inches of OLED goodness is attractive.

I moved from the Atrix to the Infuse last weekend. I can honestly say I'm 100% happy and won't go back to the Atrix. I had done my research prior to swapping them out so the first thing I did was installed the 1.2 infused rom. This is EXACTLY what I was hoping to get out of a rom with the Atrix, but it just wasn't happening. In real world performance, you really can't tell that the processors are different. I'm a tech nerd so I figured "OMG I can't go back to a single core." I was wrong. I haven't found a single thing about the Infuse that I would want to be more like the Atrix.
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Performance differences are non-existant in every day use. The screen is AMAZING to look at. I can't stop looking.
edit: to answer your questions
1. Quality feels solid. Lighter materials don't always mean lesser quality.
2. Battery life is fine. As long as you don't expect to stream pandora over 3g/4g for 12 hours on battery, the phone lasts all day.
3. Performance is even better than anticipated.
4. Infused ROM has been awesome.

ricko2169 said:
I hear ya, though it would be likely even touch wiz would go as I am yet to find a phone companies launcher that meets my needs. I must say though the new version of Motoblur in the upcoming GB update looks to be a huge improvement.
Things like notification power settings and custom kernels are attractive to me and frankly don't look like a reality on the Atrix any time soon (second init seems like a lot of mucking around).
Also 4.5 inches of OLED goodness is attractive.
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It's. Amoled Plus. Love saying that, but it only starts there.
Why would you want a dualcore when you can have a single core that don't lag at all and doesn't drain your battery that much.
I even use this keyboard (picture below) so I don't need to stretch my thumbs to reach the middle keys lol
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It's. Amoled Plus. Love saying that, but it only starts there.
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It's even better, it's super amoled plus

Would I be crazy if I wanted to switch to a sensation from the SGS2?

I have a SGS2 right now and it's the best phone I've ever owned but I'm BORED )
I know the sensation is slower in all aspects but have the issues like the wifi death grip, laggy software etc been resolved with custom roms?
Samsung may have the best hardware but HTC still makes the most exciting phones

You do what you want to do. Both phones have their pros and cons and you are aware of them.

I love my Sensation.

I'm thinking about switching from my Sensation to the SGS2 actually haha. Just waiting for it to come out on Tmobile. My sensation isn't bad but the SGS2 just seem like it has better build quality. Not sure will have to try the SGS2 first once it comes out.

luan87us said:
I'm thinking about switching from my Sensation to the SGS2 actually haha. Just waiting for it to come out on Tmobile. My sensation isn't bad but the SGS2 just seem like it has better build quality. Not sure will have to try the SGS2 first once it comes out.
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GS2 better build quality? Dude...LOL
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lol samsung build quality is no where near on parr with HTC lol... samsung use cheap plastic... lol in my opinion anyway

leehopley said:
lol samsung build quality is no where near on parr with HTC lol... samsung use cheap plastic... lol in my opinion anyway
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agreed
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Samsung's build quality is top notch, they just want it to be the lightest and slimmest phone hence the plastic. If you've toyed around with the sgs2 you'd be pretty amazed how they were able to make the whole thing.
What I do miss from HTC is the different amounts of roms available. With samsung you only get stock, CM is crap even with the old sgs.

Samsung generally makes devices which will work, but will break at the drop of a hat. Really depends what you class as build quality, Where as HTC generally makes devices which work (maybe not to the extent of samsung) but are very hard to damage and are easily modded. Really depends on what you want from a device to which suits you more.

kingofthebraves said:
Samsung's build quality is top notch, they just want it to be the lightest and slimmest phone hence the plastic. If you've toyed around with the sgs2 you'd be pretty amazed how they were able to make the whole thing.
What I do miss from HTC is the different amounts of roms available. With samsung you only get stock, CM is crap even with the old sgs.
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Pare, I have toyed with SGS2, believe me, it is nowhere near the feel of the sensation in your hands. The sensation just feels solid and robust compared to the SGS2 which is too light and feels flimsy somehow and ugly. Grab a sensation and play with it and you will know what I mean. It's nice to have 16Gb of nternal memory though and 1Gb or ram with SGS2
Edit: The nice thing about the sensation design is that you can replace the whole back cover if you damaged it and it will be like brand new.

My bro owns a SGSII and I own a sensation...and HTC is a one way phone I believe..i mean you can come from SGSII to Sensation, but you will not be able to go back... try it dude....you will remember my words .... the slow sensation can be made faster enough by lots of ROM available on XDA itself.... by looks, by build quality... by UI...i always feel sensation is the BEST...
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i must say i disagree with the above post (no offence) but stick with galaxy s2. all the htc sensation can offer you is htc sense apart from that there mostly identical, and also dont be drawn in with the qhd display, its fantastic none the less but it wont put a dent on the s2. i know this as i own both of them, and also be patient as someone's working on a port of htc sense for the galaxy s2 so im sure that will cure your boardness

Put it this way. If your going to do a straight swap, then go for it. But if you have to fork extra dough just to get the sensation, then just keep your SGS2 because it is probably not worth it.

I had the sgs2, I had it for 17 days and my friend lost it (long story), to be honest I am kinda glad they did lose it.
The sgs2 is a stupidly powerful phone true. But the build quality is bad, you always feel like it will snap in your pocket if you sit down, I think it's also too thin (i know people like it thin, but it feels awful in the hand).
It's personal preference but the HTC sensation feels awesome in the hand and it looks sexy. The screen on the HTC sensation is also just so nice. Granted the super Amoled + is pretty gorgeous too.
On the whole the galaxy is a lot faster, but as far as build quality, looks and feel in your hand you will not be disappointed with the sensation.
But yeah personal preference, both are great devices.
My previous phone was a iPhone4 and coming to the qHD screen made me so happy. Higher resolution is the real future.

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i must say i disagree with the above post (no offence) but stick with galaxy s2. all the htc sensation can offer you is htc sense apart from that there mostly identical, and also dont be drawn in with the qhd display, its fantastic none the less but it wont put a dent on the s2. i know this as i own both of them, and also be patient as someone's working on a port of htc sense for the galaxy s2 so im sure that will cure your boardness
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When compared with HTC SENSATION:
The only thing i would like to take from SGSII is its battery life
Else i like Sensation...i sold me prev sensation and had to buy another phone...i had a very good look at my bro's SGSII and eventually decided to get Sensation again...
Yes, display for SGSII is more brighter and colourful, but qHD display is even better in Sensation .....

I kinda wish i kept my EVO 3D... Still waiting for sgs2 to wow me.
I just need a better interface.. Touchwiz sucks compared to sense.
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I see alot of broken evos and alot of broken charging ports and blown out speakers on evos from working at sprint I do see the occasional messed up epic but its mostly software issues. I know this about tmo but just letting you guys know what I see from manufacturers plus the evo 3d has its own issues as well but mostly software too
**** yea

Haha, both phones are currently the top dawgs in the Android world, but like everything in the tech world, the next big thing is already looming (Galaxy Note, for one)
Unlike a pc, how fast do you really need a phone to be? Will the yellow bird in angry birds accelerate any faster? will the FPS in Backstab or Need for Speed improve? Custom Sense Roms have eliminated all lag issues, and i personally have never experienced a grip of death, whether for wifi or phone signal.
But i get where youre coming from pare, the grass is always greener on the other side. Since I own a Sensation, i find myself curious about the SGS2.
If youre serious about a swap, just PM me, maybe we can work something out Looks like were both from Metro Manila anyway.

hardensm said:
Samsung generally makes devices which will work, but will break at the drop of a hat. Really depends what you class as build quality, Where as HTC generally makes devices which work (maybe not to the extent of samsung) but are very hard to damage and are easily modded. Really depends on what you want from a device to which suits you more.
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agreed 100%. Thats y i choose sensation. love it. lolz