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Just tried the New Sprint Echo - Don't Bother.

Wow, complete fail. I knew I had my doubts about anything made by Kyocera, but I was not prepared for utter cheapness and ugliness of this device. And the screen quality - don't get me started. I felt like I was looking at a Blackberry from 2005.
The dual screen concept is nice and probably will be improved over time. But this first trip out of the barn really is a mule with a broken leg and a bad case of the mange.
If you were tempted to use your EVO trade-up for this device, save your time and money and wait for the EVO 3D.

Right now the only Android MFR's to consider are Motorola and HTC IMHO. Didn't think this device was worth anything anyway
Well OK you can add Samsung to this list

I was looking at this phone when I realized my 2 year was up on April 1st. It seemed interesting but I just knew there wouldn't be any app support for it. I have read a few reviews saying that the hinge, although goofy, is surprisingly strong.
I was going to just wait until the Evo 3D came out and not even get the Evo, but I caved. In a way I'm glad I did though, I have it all rooted and installed C7 on it with Tiamat 3.5.7. I used these forums to customize my hero as well.

Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Jasonhunterx said:
Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Dual screen cellphones are a great idea. I personally feel they may be the wave of the future just like multimonitor computer setups are so popular now. However, this phone is little more than proof of concept. Sprint will take a bath on this.
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Thanks for confirming what I already suspected. I have not had a chance to handle one yet, but the looks alone told me it was gonna be el cheapo. Kind of a shame really. The concept is pretty cool. I don't think it's going to last because of the introduction of flexible LED displays in the near future. Much better if you don't have to have a seam in the middle of your display!

Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...

nohbdyshero said:
Right now the only Android MFR's to consider are Motorola and HTC IMHO. Didn't think this device was worth anything anyway
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Don't you mean HTC and Samsung? I don't think you'll find a whole lot of love for the Moto phones here on XDA with the encrypted bootloaders and all.

OneStepAhead said:
Don't you mean HTC and Samsung? I don't think you'll find a whole lot of love for the Moto phones here on XDA with the encrypted bootloaders and all.
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I know some people like the Moto's but I forgot about Samsung and them at the last minute. I'm just glad I didn't forget all together I would have been flammed all over the place

I demo'd this phone in store today, also. Sprint tech was "watching TV" on it at the front counter. Played with it for five minutes:
Hinge has an addicting snap sound to it, as is the whole process of folding/unfolding the phone. Even having a 1GHz Snapdragon, the phone was still laggy (opening apps, scrolling through the drawer). As we all figured, besides the Sprint bloatware, this phone is pretty much AOSP--I don't believe Kyocera ever threw in their own frontend.
Rep was running Sprint TV for roughly twenty minutes, and battery was already down to 78%! Battery percentage indicator is stock, at least. LOL! Kyocera has thrown in an extra battery in the package for a reason.
Screens by themselves are SMALL! We know the specs, but looking at the screen IRL leaves MUCH to be desired. All in all, it's a novelty, at best. You're not getting anything practical out of a dual screen phone unless you ABSOLUTELY need to shave MILLISECONDS off of your time. This phone is a miss for me, which sucks, because I was looking forward to it because my phone upgrade is due in July. EVO 3D, here I come.

My oldest son was buying his finacee an evo while my youngest son and I played the echo...I asked the manager how many they have sold and he said no a one...That was 1:34 pm today.
Within 3 minutes of playing with the echo I was blah....
Picture of my son playing with the echo today.
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Critical battery, guess it's been 2 hours, time to change to the other battery :/...

I bought one yesterday to replace my EVO which I have had since launch and had the extended battery for.
I just cannot understand where all the hate for this phone comes from. With the screens open it is nearly tablet sized. I call this phone more of a "tablet crossover", where it does great as a phone and then when needed gives you a ton of room to work on things in near tablet size.
The phone is also pretty small, but thick. Feels good in hand and in pocket and very well built.
Battery life yesterday was fine mostly connected to wifi. Today will be my first day out and about with it.
It has been buttery smooth for me, no stutters or lags. I've already become used to the small black space between the screens and don't even notice it. Not sure on the comment about the screen quality, both displays are superb in my opinion.
Sure, the phone is different than anything we have seen before. So far it has exceeded my expectations and I don't miss the Evo at all. Can't tell you how nice it is to flip the screens together to get some work done and have all the extra space.

A couple other thoughts -
I have mostly used it with apps full screen in tablet mode, and it has worked beautifully for nearly everything I have tried, including apps like Pulse reader.
Simultask works well also, although I haven't found myself using it that much. Was cool when I saw some mails coming in and I was browsing the web, I brought the mail client into one of the screens and continued to browse as I was reviewing mail. Also it's great how the mail client uses both screens to list mail on one screen and review on another.
Camera app is awesome with how it uses both screens.
Pretty much vanilla android 2.2 all the way around. Very nice in that regard.

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DomSim said:
Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...
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Actually, I am good at helping people. Perhaps that is why I have 420 thank-you's compared to your 23. If you spent less time attacking me and more time learning enough about Android where you could assist others, maybe you won't look so foolish by comparison next time?

mhoepfin said:
I bought one yesterday to replace my EVO which I have had since launch and had the extended battery for.
I just cannot understand where all the hate for this phone comes from. With the screens open it is nearly tablet sized. I call this phone more of a "tablet crossover", where it does great as a phone and then when needed gives you a ton of room to work on things in near tablet size.
The phone is also pretty small, but thick. Feels good in hand and in pocket and very well built.
Battery life yesterday was fine mostly connected to wifi. Today will be my first day out and about with it.
It has been buttery smooth for me, no stutters or lags. I've already become used to the small black space between the screens and don't even notice it. Not sure on the comment about the screen quality, both displays are superb in my opinion.
Sure, the phone is different than anything we have seen before. So far it has exceeded my expectations and I don't miss the Evo at all. Can't tell you how nice it is to flip the screens together to get some work done and have all the extra space.
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As with any phone, it is a matter of taste. For those who are more into utility and care less about aesthetics, this phone is probably fine. However, I am surprised you don't notice that the image quality on the screen is far inferior to the EVO? Like I said, I am a big fan of THIS IDEA, I'm just not a fan of this phone. Seems more like a proof-of-concept than a finished product.
Glad you like your Echo

Jasonhunterx said:
Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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totally agree....... +1

DomSim said:
Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...
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Oh ****! Hahahahaha
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Not surprising one bit. This was the last time I ever purchased anything from Kyocera. The lens cover decide to close when you turn the power ON and open when you turn the power OFF...after 2wks of pampering.

Who Do You Think the next Nexus Will Go to?

Early last year, HTC got it, and Samsung got it late last year. So who will get this years? I think Motorola personally because there one of the 3 largest Android phone producers besides HTC and Samsung. It was rumored last year that Motorola would be making the "Nexus 2"
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But obviously turned out untrue. Google will probably give all its major manufacturers the chance.
Opinions?

Very much open still.
Hoping to see a well built device this time with at least a 4.3" display. I'll probably standby for the new Nexus about during the year's end.
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It's going be $ony and not motorola everrrrr

Hope another samsung phone
the best android device= samsung's hardware+google in charge of software

Samsung 100%

Hoping for HTC!

arika44 said:
Hope another samsung phone
the best android device= samsung's hardware+google in charge of software
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May I ask what is that you like about Samsung's hardware? What are your reasons?
Personally, I very much prefer have HTC make it.
(I was very hesitant to buy my Nexus S because of this, loving it now though)

MrNago said:
May I ask what is that you like about Samsung's hardware? What are your reasons?
Personally, I very much prefer have HTC make it.
(I was very hesitant to buy my Nexus S because of this, loving it now though)
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Samsung themselves have cpu and screen, see how galaxy s and galaxy s ii are popular
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Nexus X from motorola
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Hoping to see a well built device this time with at least a 4.3" display.
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Aaaaaaa.... no. We are speaking about a phone, not a tablet. You want to hold up a 5" in your face ? I don't think so...
It should be a 4" or below. Personally, I think NS has almost the perfect ratio for the screen size, not too big to hold in your hands, not too small for your fingers to glide.
Also, Motorola ? Really ? Damn, I sure hope not. They suck, as well as LG and Sony. Crappy handsets. HTC is the prime factor in build quality. Samsung takes up no. 2. And that's about it. And because everyone would love a SAMOLED+ display on the new Nexus, then I guess Samsung is the way to go (again). I wouldn't mind it, its current build quality is not very bad (but not as good as HTC's).

lambda30 said:
Aaaaaaa.... no. We are speaking about a phone, not a tablet. You want to hold up a 5" in your face ? I don't think so...
It should be a 4" or below. Personally, I think NS has almost the perfect ratio for the screen size, not too big to hold in your hands, not too small for your fingers to glide.
Also, Motorola ? Really ? Damn, I sure hope not. They suck, as well as LG and Sony. Crappy handsets. HTC is the prime factor in build quality. Samsung takes up no. 2. And that's about it. And because everyone would love a SAMOLED+ display on the new Nexus, then I guess Samsung is the way to go (again). I wouldn't mind it, its current build quality is not very bad (but not as good as HTC's).
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I disagree. The build quality of my Nexus S is far superior to that of my HTC Evo.
But I do agree completely that 4 inches is the absolute max screen size.
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Nexus X from motorola
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You beat me to it!
There was the rumor going around about an LG Nexus tablet, but maybe they'll manufacture the next Nexus phone instead. Crazier things have happened.

Whoever gets it, I hope they bring back the contour surface. I think thats what makes nexus s look so unique.

It would be nice if they did a joint venture of HTC and Samsung. I love HTC construction, nice alluminum unibody, and the qHD Display looks pretty good too. Though the SAMOLED+ isn't a slouch neither. But I am would love to have the dual-core Exynos CPU not to mention Samsung flash mem and cameras. I'm sure however it shakes out it will be yet another awsome phone.
If I had my choice and had to choose one manufacturer I'd have to say HTC. quality is just so much better. If feels like a highend phone when you hold it. The Nexus S doesn't. With that being said I doubt Google would go back to HTC or Samsung. Who I think is going to be next is Motorola. Especially if LG is going to do the Tablet. Only makes sense. But who knows maybe they'll get RIM to do it. RIM is doing a lot of Android stuff with there phones and software. Maybe its the natural progress. Though it would be very very weird.

Maybe Apple might ditch their dumb IOS and join hands with Google and Make iNexus

I owned a lot of HTC devices before. While I do agree that the phone feels right in the hand, I have to say that nearly all of them had to go to service once. The only exception was the HTC diamond. The n1 with the faulty power button, the desire twice with faulty motherboard. The screen on my ex DHD was way washed out. I do think that slowly, HTC is getting out of the competition. One with the outdated hardware (except for the sensation) e.g thunderbolt, desire s, incredible s... and then with the locking of the bootloader.
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I think Samsung hardware is far eclipsing the thought of HTC having better hardware. Samsung's fault is their SW update track record, but their hardware is top-notch. Can anyone say they haven't had a problem with an HTC device? From flaky touchscreen response on the Nexus One, to terrible speakers and battery life of my Desire, Inspire, Desire Z, and everyone's Thunderbolts, can we really compare these devices to Samsung's SAMOLED+ and better-than-average speakers?
Here's what people should be saying:
"I like the aluminum bodies that HTC phones have."

Should be Nexus X(peria)
from Sony. ..

I think LG will be the next one to get it and it might have a dual core processor.
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matt2053 said:
I disagree. The build quality of my Nexus S is far superior to that of my HTC Evo.
But I do agree completely that 4 inches is the absolute max screen size.
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I agree. All my HTC phones have had bad build quality. I think all people consider with "build quality" is the materials on the outside when it also should consist of do these materials actually function or last? So many bad build quality reports from HTC. Glass coming off the EVO, Nexus Ones bad touchscreen & power button, bad battery life, bad screens in the MT4G, etc.
I preferred my Nexus S's build quality to my Nexus One any day.
But, of all the manufacturers, Motorola has been my favorite. All of them have been so solid and sturdy in hand. Never any build quality problems and their quite rugged (some). I have no experience with Sony, but my LG Incite had horrible build quality (creaky, but so easy to take apart. Just like taking a hard case off a phone basically ). Samsung is so-so. My Nexus S was excellent, my Captivate was not. The Captivate just doesn't feel right to me. Not sure why there is so much hate for Motorola (I suppose the locked bootloader? And all the accusations of Blur when people haven't tried it/ used it since the 1.5 phones) and so much love for HTC when they have so many problems.

[Q] I get my Infuse tomorrow!

So, after dealing with the samsung captivate (until it broke) and using my backup phone (lg quantum) until my buttons are losing functionality, I decided it was time to upgrade. I was going to get the atrix at first, but then I read the forums and people were like, "hissssssssssss, Atrix!" so I went to the Inspire, which I planned on getting until the lady at the AT&T store told me I should only have to charge it twice a day.
Only.
So here I am again! purchasing a samsung device I swore I would never buy again. After reading some reviews and threads on this forum, I must say it seems like a fairly solid device! Can anybody give me any advice on what to expect when my new phone comes? What threads are really relevant to a new Infuse owner?
Thank you in advance, I always trust XDA!
Also... the case I'm getting for it http://www.amazon.com/Case-Mate-CM0..._1_5?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1314913318&sr=1-5
Because I want my phone to look like a storm trooper >

I love my Infuse. 100000000% better than the Inspire. The battery is great however I ordered the extended battery and it's amazing with that. Solid device for sure. Only issue is the stock browser so I froze it and use Dolphin which is awesome and fixed the problem.

shiftylock said:
So, after dealing with the samsung captivate (until it broke) and using my backup phone (lg quantum) until my buttons are losing functionality, I decided it was time to upgrade. I was going to get the atrix at first, but then I read the forums and people were like, "hissssssssssss, Atrix!" so I went to the Inspire, which I planned on getting until the lady at the AT&T store told me I should only have to charge it twice a day.
Only.
So here I am again! purchasing a samsung device I swore I would never buy again. After reading some reviews and threads on this forum, I must say it seems like a fairly solid device! Can anybody give me any advice on what to expect when my new phone comes? What threads are really relevant to a new Infuse owner?
Thank you in advance, I always trust XDA!
Also... the case I'm getting for it http://www.amazon.com/Case-Mate-CM0..._1_5?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1314913318&sr=1-5
Because I want my phone to look like a storm trooper >
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Funny looking case, almost iPhone-ish LOL
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With the exception of GPS, all is well.
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With the exception of GPS, all is well.
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No, the GPS is fine, your just expecting too much.
You must be one of the "2 or 3" people with GPS complaints.
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I have that same case in grey but I couldn't keep it on. The phone is just too beautiful and slim to cover up in a case that thick.
Sent from my Infuse running Serendipity VII beautifully.

hmm... see, I would like to not use the case, but also with my captivate the back of it would get scratched if I didn't have a case on it, and it looks like the same back cover as the captivate... hmmm.... but still, if it makes my phone look like an iphone I'll just not use it.
I wouldn't want to look like I forgot to get the bigger GB's.
It's really great to hear good stories about this phone. I usually use dolphin browser anyway, so meh. Is rooting/flashing the same process as the captivate? I would assume since they're pretty similar phones...

I agree it needs something to protect the camera lens but I am looking for something more slim. For now it stays in my pocket or in my hands.
Rooting processes differ slightly from what I understand but once you're rooted, loading custom ROMS is pretty much the same. I never had a captivate but I did have a n1 for a while. The only real difference is the number of ROMS available for the infuse so far.
Sent from my Serendipity infused Infuse.

Oh and in no way does this phone even resemble an iPhone... case or no case. The screen is the dead giveaway. LOL.
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So, gps is an issue with the infuse?

Gratz on the Infuse, ugh why that case >< You gotta get the Seidio Surface Case! Looks way sessier then any other case!
Make sure the first thing you do is root and add the Infused v2.1 ROM man, outside the box the phone kinda blows ><
Edit: And believe me their is nothing wrong with the Atrix! That phone is a beast for gaming, just everything looks so much better on this 4.5" Super AMOLED+ screen

Eddie Bombay said:
Gratz on the Infuse, ugh why that case >< You gotta get the Seidio Surface Case! Looks way sessier then any other case!
Make sure the first thing you do is root and add the Infused v2.1 ROM man, outside the box the phone kinda blows ><
Edit: And believe me their is nothing wrong with the Atrix! That phone is a beast for gaming, just everything looks so much better on this 4.5" Super AMOLED+ screen
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*face/palm* if only I scrolled down before ordering! ahhh! at least the case will protect it. I mean I doubt my phone will still be as thick as an evo lol.
But yeah I heard the atrix had a ton of problems, plus the whole bootloader thing... meh, motorola lost me at after my RAZR.
So I'm going to put that Infused ROM on there the day after I get it. (or the same day, depending on how long I can stand being on stock.)
Does anybody use juicedefender with this phone? I could get a cool 2 days out of my cappy with that app running.

Yeah you gotta be crazy NOT to use Juice Defender.
This is what I get on average with Juice Defender.
Around x1.68 to x1.78
Seems most people who cry about the Atrix don't even really own one and those who do never really gave it a chance. Once you mod that phone up it's a monster. Oh well the Infuse is a beast w/ that 4.5" screen hands down.

Eddie Bombay said:
Yeah you gotta be crazy NOT to use Juice Defender.
This is what I get on average with Juice Defender.
Around x1.68 to x1.78
Seems most people who cry about the Atrix don't even really own one and those who do never really gave it a chance. Once you mod that phone up it's a monster. Oh well the Infuse is a beast w/ that 4.5" screen hands down.
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Wow! That looks really good! I'm now even more psyched about my Infuse!
And you're right. If for some reason I end up not liking my infuse, I'll just return it and get an atrix. the atrix is easily my second choice.

shiftylock said:
And you're right. If for some reason I end up not liking my infuse, I'll just return it and get an atrix. the atrix is easily my second choice.
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I used Atrix, and returned it under 4 days. Once u r accustomed to the screen on Captivate, the only phone u can go ahead is Infuse (as of today). I tried Inspire and Atrix, and returned for battery and for screen and Insprire even had lots of dropped calls. Atrix was better on battery, but well, that's not the only thing that counts, esp when u have a charger at home, in car, and at work

one of the worst phone in the market!

If you're expecting a large improvement over the Captivate, prepare to be disappointed.
Otherwise it's a solid but unexceptional phone.

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I did some testing, and despite TELLING me I was getting nearly double the battery life, I was actually getting worse than not having it at all.

Stock browser is complete crap compared to the one in infused rom. Stock browser lags bad, crashes and stutters viewing 480p youtube videos and stock rom will be laggy while scrolling though homepages. First thing to do when you get the phone is to flash infused 2.1.0 and infusion kernel overcklocked to 1.6ghz this phone will fly like crazy. Everything will be smooth as butter and with dozens of widgets and live wallpaper there will be no lag while moving thorough homepages. The browser will be super fast and have no lag at all and you will be able to play 1080p youtube videos without any lag. All games will have zero lag and no slowdowns. In particular i noticed on stock rom fast 5 game would stutter alot, but with infused rom it flies. This phone is much better than the crappy captivate i had half a year ago. The gps just works and tracks well. Wifi is a bit weaker than other phones, but still pretty good. The camera is one of the best out of smart phones. And finally that beautiful screen which will make everyone jealous.

Wait till you get in the car with friends and this thing flips on you. It was stormy weather few days ago and this thing decided not to lock, my buddy pulled out a 5 year old Samsung blackjack, got a 10s lock and we took off. 45 mins later, I got the lock.
If you install Copilot, your GPS will go bonkers. Unacceptable performance.
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Would I be crazy if I wanted to switch to a sensation from the SGS2?

I have a SGS2 right now and it's the best phone I've ever owned but I'm BORED )
I know the sensation is slower in all aspects but have the issues like the wifi death grip, laggy software etc been resolved with custom roms?
Samsung may have the best hardware but HTC still makes the most exciting phones

You do what you want to do. Both phones have their pros and cons and you are aware of them.

I love my Sensation.

I'm thinking about switching from my Sensation to the SGS2 actually haha. Just waiting for it to come out on Tmobile. My sensation isn't bad but the SGS2 just seem like it has better build quality. Not sure will have to try the SGS2 first once it comes out.

luan87us said:
I'm thinking about switching from my Sensation to the SGS2 actually haha. Just waiting for it to come out on Tmobile. My sensation isn't bad but the SGS2 just seem like it has better build quality. Not sure will have to try the SGS2 first once it comes out.
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GS2 better build quality? Dude...LOL
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lol samsung build quality is no where near on parr with HTC lol... samsung use cheap plastic... lol in my opinion anyway

leehopley said:
lol samsung build quality is no where near on parr with HTC lol... samsung use cheap plastic... lol in my opinion anyway
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agreed
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Samsung's build quality is top notch, they just want it to be the lightest and slimmest phone hence the plastic. If you've toyed around with the sgs2 you'd be pretty amazed how they were able to make the whole thing.
What I do miss from HTC is the different amounts of roms available. With samsung you only get stock, CM is crap even with the old sgs.

Samsung generally makes devices which will work, but will break at the drop of a hat. Really depends what you class as build quality, Where as HTC generally makes devices which work (maybe not to the extent of samsung) but are very hard to damage and are easily modded. Really depends on what you want from a device to which suits you more.

kingofthebraves said:
Samsung's build quality is top notch, they just want it to be the lightest and slimmest phone hence the plastic. If you've toyed around with the sgs2 you'd be pretty amazed how they were able to make the whole thing.
What I do miss from HTC is the different amounts of roms available. With samsung you only get stock, CM is crap even with the old sgs.
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Pare, I have toyed with SGS2, believe me, it is nowhere near the feel of the sensation in your hands. The sensation just feels solid and robust compared to the SGS2 which is too light and feels flimsy somehow and ugly. Grab a sensation and play with it and you will know what I mean. It's nice to have 16Gb of nternal memory though and 1Gb or ram with SGS2
Edit: The nice thing about the sensation design is that you can replace the whole back cover if you damaged it and it will be like brand new.

My bro owns a SGSII and I own a sensation...and HTC is a one way phone I believe..i mean you can come from SGSII to Sensation, but you will not be able to go back... try it dude....you will remember my words .... the slow sensation can be made faster enough by lots of ROM available on XDA itself.... by looks, by build quality... by UI...i always feel sensation is the BEST...
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i must say i disagree with the above post (no offence) but stick with galaxy s2. all the htc sensation can offer you is htc sense apart from that there mostly identical, and also dont be drawn in with the qhd display, its fantastic none the less but it wont put a dent on the s2. i know this as i own both of them, and also be patient as someone's working on a port of htc sense for the galaxy s2 so im sure that will cure your boardness

Put it this way. If your going to do a straight swap, then go for it. But if you have to fork extra dough just to get the sensation, then just keep your SGS2 because it is probably not worth it.

I had the sgs2, I had it for 17 days and my friend lost it (long story), to be honest I am kinda glad they did lose it.
The sgs2 is a stupidly powerful phone true. But the build quality is bad, you always feel like it will snap in your pocket if you sit down, I think it's also too thin (i know people like it thin, but it feels awful in the hand).
It's personal preference but the HTC sensation feels awesome in the hand and it looks sexy. The screen on the HTC sensation is also just so nice. Granted the super Amoled + is pretty gorgeous too.
On the whole the galaxy is a lot faster, but as far as build quality, looks and feel in your hand you will not be disappointed with the sensation.
But yeah personal preference, both are great devices.
My previous phone was a iPhone4 and coming to the qHD screen made me so happy. Higher resolution is the real future.

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Not that benchmarks mean too much.
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dav08094194 said:
i must say i disagree with the above post (no offence) but stick with galaxy s2. all the htc sensation can offer you is htc sense apart from that there mostly identical, and also dont be drawn in with the qhd display, its fantastic none the less but it wont put a dent on the s2. i know this as i own both of them, and also be patient as someone's working on a port of htc sense for the galaxy s2 so im sure that will cure your boardness
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When compared with HTC SENSATION:
The only thing i would like to take from SGSII is its battery life
Else i like Sensation...i sold me prev sensation and had to buy another phone...i had a very good look at my bro's SGSII and eventually decided to get Sensation again...
Yes, display for SGSII is more brighter and colourful, but qHD display is even better in Sensation .....

I kinda wish i kept my EVO 3D... Still waiting for sgs2 to wow me.
I just need a better interface.. Touchwiz sucks compared to sense.
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I see alot of broken evos and alot of broken charging ports and blown out speakers on evos from working at sprint I do see the occasional messed up epic but its mostly software issues. I know this about tmo but just letting you guys know what I see from manufacturers plus the evo 3d has its own issues as well but mostly software too
**** yea

Haha, both phones are currently the top dawgs in the Android world, but like everything in the tech world, the next big thing is already looming (Galaxy Note, for one)
Unlike a pc, how fast do you really need a phone to be? Will the yellow bird in angry birds accelerate any faster? will the FPS in Backstab or Need for Speed improve? Custom Sense Roms have eliminated all lag issues, and i personally have never experienced a grip of death, whether for wifi or phone signal.
But i get where youre coming from pare, the grass is always greener on the other side. Since I own a Sensation, i find myself curious about the SGS2.
If youre serious about a swap, just PM me, maybe we can work something out Looks like were both from Metro Manila anyway.

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Samsung generally makes devices which will work, but will break at the drop of a hat. Really depends what you class as build quality, Where as HTC generally makes devices which work (maybe not to the extent of samsung) but are very hard to damage and are easily modded. Really depends on what you want from a device to which suits you more.
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agreed 100%. Thats y i choose sensation. love it. lolz

[Q] HTC One S Vs Galaxy Nexus

I know there is post like that but at the other post people are just saying "Galaxy Nexus" or "HTC One is the best".
I want to start it again. I need serious arguments for the both sides, please
Which is better in your opinion? If you have some suggestions? Also what is the quality of both phones?
Thanks for reading and discussing!

I'm sitting here wondering the same thing. I've got the One S, but I have an unopened Galaxy Nexus sitting next to me. I could return the Nexus, or sell the One S. Not sure what to do.
From what I've gathered, it looks like this.
One S:
Better camera (rear, not front)
Smaller screen w/ lower res (qHD vs 720)
Smaller battery (non-removable)
Faster processor and GPU (from what I've read)
HTC Sense (Big plus in my book)
No SD slot
Nexus:
Bigger removable battery
Larger, higher res screen
No SD slot
Pure ICS and faster updates (may or may not be a good thing)
More storage available
Cheaper off contract
I'm sure I'm missing stuff, but that's my break down.

I heard that Galaxy Nexus has a lot of bad quality phones especially when we talk to screen..
Also Galaxy Nexus isn't near fast as HTC One S but everywhere where I found discussion for these two phones they say "Galaxy Nexus is better"
Why?? As far as I can see through internet reviews and my personal opinion about the specs I see way better HTC One S.
Maybe the only big advantage is that Galaxy Nexus has Android Stock UI, not so big problem and the 720p screen but it gets bigger 4.65 instead 4.3.
I have small hands or maybe medium and I don't want to have that big phone.
After 2 weeks I will travel to USA and they are near the same price (Galaxy Nexus 430$ NEW, T-mobile HTC One S 430$ Used Near mint and 470$ NIB)
So my point is that I will be only for 3 months this year in USA and it won't be pleasant to get low quality phone. As I read there are some major issues for One S like dropping calls..

here we go.
I don't care about this things at all:
No SD slot
Smaller screen
Smaller battery
Cheaper off contract
...bla bla bla
My point is everything about HARDWARE !
HTC ONE S- Dual-core "KRAIT" Cortex-A15. (GPU- Adreno 225)
Even latest flagship Quadcore Samsung Galaxy III got it Cortex A9 !
HTC One S has it beautiful hardware, and rich future.
Galaxy Nexus- Got it BEST android community !
But hardware is OMAP 4460 which is Dual-core, Cortex-A9. (GPU-PowerVR SGX540-old crap)
Due to such a smart dev's (like a Morfic and others) Galaxy Nexus provide beautiful optimization and fast speed
But OMAP4460 and PowerVR SGX540 will not pull up for a long time.
Conclusion:
With GALAXY NEXUS I felt no hardware power., I felt a strong optimization !!! Remember, ICS was born and optimized for the Nexus (Omap).
With HTC One S I felt hardware power, thank you for sick Krait A-15 !
Which is provide so strong CPU attack ! Linpack bench is 222 !!! And you are required to respect that !!! Because no ONE can't do this.
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But:
Both phone got ****ty GPU !
You will ask me: "-Now what?!"
Both phones can't play 1080p video, example in youtube desktop mod, and it is a shame !
At that time Exynos with Mali-400MP (Galaxy S II, Galaxy Note, Galaxy S III) shows a middle finger with a smile.
So the choice is yours.
........My choice is Galaxy S III. ;-)
Best Regards

If the One S had these which the Nexus does, it would be just amazing
-NFC
(Android Beam)
(Swipe to Pay)
-HD Display (1280x720)
& a micro SD card or at least 32GB storage, with removable battery
But then again I'm pretty much describing the one X. Sadly its not on T-Mobile
Sent from my HTC One S

Finally some good arguments!
Actually I don't care neither for the smaller screen/resolution and that it doesn't have removable battery & no sd slot.
Previously I had iPhone and I am pretty used to it (to be missing) and I think isn't that big problem..
So Galaxy Nexus is only customization with less power
and One S is power with less customization. In fact I didn't know that One S can't playback 1080p from YouTube,
also HTC Sense is way more comfortable and more customizable in the eyes of TouchWiz.
My previous choice before One S was SGS2 i777. It has NFC, good camera, SD slot, removable battery but if I buy it I need to go CM9 maybe. TouchWiz is awful..
SGS3 is really good but I don't want to waste that money for a telephone. Also it is huge .

What about the HSPA speeds.. Nexus is only 21 .. while one S is 42 .. how much does that matter for a Tmobile customer?

A big factor in favor of the One S is the body, how it looks and feels to hold.
(Yes, the MSM8960 SoC is a nice bonus too.)

The One S will. Benefit with the faster radio/modem.
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network performance kind of depending on your signal strength. I personally think you won't notice much difference between 21 and 42. I did a quick test with my One S and I am getting about 21 speed despite it can do 42. It is probably due to slightly weaker signal on where I am. Unless you are doing lots lots of heavy duty data, it wont' matter much.
Besides the obvious spec difference, the software developement is where it matters. The Nexus's stock android is great and also mean that it has the most up to data software ie Jelly Bean and the big community means a big optimization. One S is a not that widely supported due to the fact many developers want the best hardware so they go with the One X as oppose to One S, so our device may not get all of the development. If you do not tinker your phone that much, either one won't make a huge difference.
In addition, I can see that google potentially will still offer one more software update after jelly bean with the Nexus but I am not 100% certain that HTC will offer update to the One S after jelly bean.
That is just my thoughts.

My HOS can play youtube in 1080p on desktop mode on cm9 & cm10(with the flash apk)

i have the one s now and had the nexus -
Speed differences are pretty big for me - +5 MB down on dl speeds and 3-5 up (nexus was 8-9 down 1-2 up).
I have the 5g + hotspot plan so that is a nice boost.
Screenwise, I don't miss the higher res I would be hard pressed to tell that much of a difference.
Tech wise the one s wins in terms of newer faster cpu - graphics wise? meh I don't play many games on my phone so I don't really care. I have a nexus 7 to be a tablet.
build wise - the nexus is slick but the one s is beautiful. The aluminum body the thin phone - it just looks sexy - not overly designed (how i felt about the s2 when I got it).
I don't store a lot on the phone so the memory avail for me is fine - don't really care about no microsd slot
the downside? it is tmo branded and they are notorius for slow updates where a nexus is going to get updates/new oses a lot faster but as others have pointed out - the tech is old...
that and I got the HOS for 49 bucks new contract - no brainer for me.

glenroebuck said:
i have the one s now and had the nexus -
Speed differences are pretty big for me - +5 MB down on dl speeds and 3-5 up (nexus was 8-9 down 1-2 up).
I have the 5g + hotspot plan so that is a nice boost.
Screenwise, I don't miss the higher res I would be hard pressed to tell that much of a difference.
Tech wise the one s wins in terms of newer faster cpu - graphics wise? meh I don't play many games on my phone so I don't really care. I have a nexus 7 to be a tablet.
build wise - the nexus is slick but the one s is beautiful. The aluminum body the thin phone - it just looks sexy - not overly designed (how i felt about the s2 when I got it).
I don't store a lot on the phone so the memory avail for me is fine - don't really care about no microsd slot
the downside? it is tmo branded and they are notorius for slow updates where a nexus is going to get updates/new oses a lot faster but as others have pointed out - the tech is old...
that and I got the HOS for 49 bucks new contract - no brainer for me.
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I own both as well and agree with everything in this post. I would just say that I think the biggest differences are screen size and aosp support.
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