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watch who his guy hack android on iPhone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yO2KQHkt4A&feature=player_embedded
Yeah I got a text from my iPhone friend bragging about it but I told him to get 2.1 then brag.
It would be cool to have iPhone on G1 but I don't see that coming at all.
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CrazyEye said:
Yeah I got a text from my iPhone friend bragging but I told him to get 2.1 then brag.
It would be cool to have iPhone on G1 but I don't see that coming at all.
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Or to get that running as fast as it is on the G1. Sad that it runs slower...
It's amusing, but...
This isn't Development. It would be more fitting in the General section. Sorry to be a buzz-kill, but this kind of stuff usually gets people flamed.
(for the record, iPhone can suck it.)
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Or to get that running as fast as it is on the G1. Sad that it runs slower...
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I could see the iPhone getting faster on Android once more devs look at it and piece it together. It has to be possible to port iPhone to Android to bad I have no development skills or I would give it a go.
Christopher3712 said:
This isn't Development. It would be more fitting in the General section. Sorry to be a buzz-kill, but this kind of stuff usually gets people flamed.
(for the record, iPhone can suck it.)
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Yeah I was going to flame him originally but so many people post in the wrong section I just give up and let a mod take care of it >.<
I second the Suck it to iPhone. It would be just something to have to make iPhone fan boys stfu.
Christopher3712 said:
This isn't Development. It would be more fitting in the General section. Sorry to be a buzz-kill, but this kind of stuff usually gets people flamed.
(for the record, iPhone can suck it.)
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If you believe something is in the wrong section, is it not easier to just ignore the post? Or must you, inform people they're posting in the "wrong" section? What's the big deal. Read what's written, if it holds no interest for you, keep it movin. If you find it interesting, and you "believe" it's in the wrong section, keep it movin. What's hard about that? Ur the type to report **** is in the wrong sections as you come across stuff aren't you? People like you are Computer Commandos. Leave the Moddin 2 da MODS.
Thanks. Take Care.
Im sorry but android is far better then iphone os and this is coming from a person that paid about $4000 in mac stuff
fox12345 said:
watch who his guy hack android on iPhone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yO2KQHkt4A&feature=player_embedded
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That's kinda tight right there.
haha
I love how people say the iphone sucks yet really what can android do that iphone can't they can Run our os cydia is the best thing ever better battery huge memory way more reliable awsome music player awsome gaming better keyboard haha list goes on and on
This is not G1 nor Development related (not directly as it's just news) so I moved it to the general android forum.
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I love how people say the iphone sucks yet really what can android do that iphone can't
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Multi task!
Haha it actually can with an aop called multi flow and 4.0 will have it
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I love how people say the iphone sucks yet really what can android do that iphone can't they can Run our os cydia is the best thing ever better battery huge memory way more reliable awsome music player awsome gaming better keyboard haha list goes on and on
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Cydia: We don't need another Market when ours doesn't reject things.
Battery- Really? Have you EVER used a Nexus?
Memory- That is, until you fill it up
Music Player- No doubt, Android is getting better ones but the iPhone's is still top notch
Gaming- That's what happens when you're a year ahead of the competition, but yes, I feel it has better games (Even if I don't play any)
Batter Keyboard- This is subjective, the ONLY thing I feel it has Android beaten in is responsiveness (And this is due to the touchscreen, not the actual keyboard)
If not cydia rock millions of free apps once hacked u can't fill up the memory my wife a 16 gig and hsnt filled up half her memory with all the movies music and apps the keyboard is more responsive millions of themes everything an android can do so can iphone I wish there a way to flash roms on an iphone
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If not cydia rock millions of free apps once hacked u can't fill up the memory my wife a 16 gig and hsnt filled up half her memory with all the movies music and apps the keyboard is more responsive millions of themes everything an android can do so can iphone I wish there a way to flash roms on an iphone
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I don't see why having the phone hacked or not gives more memory, it was 16gb before and after. Well, when someone has 1000's of songs, the 16gb fills up rather quickly, so just because she has over half left doesn't mean everyone does.
You tend to have more things when you are tending to a larger user base, so having millions of themes is nice, but you're only ever going to use one at a time.
I still don't see why cydia and rock are being brought into this, they're a market for things that were/will be rejected from the App store the Android Market does NOT suffer from this (Except in things like pornography or malicious/illegal items).
All I know is that this is good news for many and I hope development continues, I like the Iphone OS very much including android and winmo 7.
the day i get an iphone is the day it multitasks, has real keyboard, lets me watch porn when my girl is being stingy and selfish with her vagina, on top of it all... run an android os. sooo in the words of my good man :"iphone can suck iiiiiiiit"
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If not cydia rock millions of free apps once hacked u can't fill up the memory my wife a 16 gig and hsnt filled up half her memory with all the movies music and apps the keyboard is more responsive millions of themes everything an android can do so can iphone I wish there a way to flash roms on an iphone
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Why are you defending that iCraP!!..................
Just playing but, why compare Iphone/touch to Android... Android will always come out on top.... and if you don't like Android why not get an IPhone...
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I love how people say the iphone sucks yet really what can android do that iphone can't they can Run our os cydia is the best thing ever better battery huge memory way more reliable awsome music player awsome gaming better keyboard haha list goes on and on
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I agree .I have a Touch HD and an Iphone 3GS both are good phones being made better by the developers on here and people over at Devteam. It seems a little immature to be slagging one off against another
xftox said:
I love how people say the iphone sucks yet really what can android do that iphone can't they can Run our os cydia is the best thing ever better battery huge memory way more reliable awsome music player awsome gaming better keyboard haha list goes on and on
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If you want a phone that can play music, videos, and games, I'll grant than an iPhone is your best bet.
If you want a phone with a large high-res screen, hardware keyboard, expandable storage, TRUE multi-tasking, as well as an impressive bag of tricks (tethering, WiFiRouter, etc.) that can be had without voiding your warrantee, the iPhone would certainly not fit the bill.
Just saying that there are plenty of things an iPhone cannot do, even with jailbreaking. The day some mad dev manages to port iPhone OS to an HTC keyboard phone, I will gladly eat my words. Until then, enjoy your iPhone for what it is, a Portable Media Player. The rest of us will keep happily haxing away on our Mini Computers.
After much deliberation on which tablet i would get, investigationg specs and options only, I went with the TF101 over the ipad 2. Whilst the transformer is an impressive beast is it really ready for the market considering the widespread lack of support compared to iOS?
As an avid gamer I am less than thrilled with the options available in these terms. I'm still in two minds on whether I get an iPad.
Can anyone make me feel better about my purchase?
I really don't know what's so fun with those silly ipad games. Seriously , go get an ipad and stop whining. It has only been a few months since the andriod tablet came out.
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myamex said:
I really don't know what's so fun with those silly ipad games. Seriously , go get an ipad and stop whining. It has only been a few months since the andriod tablet came out.
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Thanks for your constructive comments. I was hoping to instigate some constructive discussion on developments and areas of improvement but your well ellocuted and educated comments will do.
Anyone else?
well I believe that Apple will always have a huge chunk of market share, as they do in the PC market, although I think Honeycomb needs simpler, and less geeky advertisements for it to be accepted by the average consumer. When you are asked by someone what your joyously typing away on, do they ask if its the Asus EEE Pad Transformer? Or do they often ask "is that an iPad?". Even when you tell them its your Transformer they still have no clue what it is. They need to expand the exposure of these tablets if Honeycomb, or Ice Cream Sandwich is to be successful. Its the same thing as nobody says "do you want to get fast food?" nearly as often as "wanna get mcdonalds?". People don't go into walmart very often asking for an Asus Transformer, they do go in to get an iPad though.
Ipads have a huge head start first and second exeyone thinks as a ipad as a toy and the android tablets are not really as they need more time to catch up. I honeycomb is easy to use as I have friends and family pick it up and start using it right away they all think it's cooler than the Ipads and a few people I know to Ipads even are jealous with what this thing can do
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The way I see it is that Honeycomb is just the first step on where Android is leading too. It is more like a 'beta' product.
I wouldnt be too worried about support, just like mobile it will soon grow through the time. Especially when Ice Cream Sandwich comes which will allegedly improve app compatibility between devices which should be easier for developers.
Honeycomb isnt treated as an OS on its own like that it will be forgotten and lose support, it is a specific build of Android that will be improving continuously. Things can only get better, not worse.
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I really don't know what's so fun with those silly ipad games.
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You must not be a gamer. The iPad has some console quality games that Android tablet users wish they had.
check out the upcoming game Warm Gun... Coming to pc and iOS.
Thanks everyone. Its hard not to recognise that this is a kickn product, cant wait for it to be better supported though. If I could just get order and chaos online working id be happy to wait for anything else. Well maybe modern combat also
EP2008 said:
You must not be a gamer. The iPad has some console quality games that Android tablet users wish they had.
check out the upcoming game Warm Gun... Coming to pc and iOS.
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That ain't a console quality game. That's an iPad quality game that also happens to be on the PC.
The iPad 2 is still only about the speed of a netbook. High-powered games like Deus Ex 3 isn't gonna be on the iPad anytime soon, unless it's a side scroller.
If you're serious about gaming, get a cheap AMD A6 or A8 laptop instead, for roughly the price of an iPad (or less). Load up Steam, and you have all the game genres at your fingertips.
I had the iPad 1 and I currently have the iPad2 and TF. I really dislike the iOS operating system, since the 4.3.5 update, there is NO jailbreak, so you have to pay $10+ for a app. I've had the TF for only a day now, and I really do like it. I use my tablets mainly for internet, word processing, e-mail, etc. With the ipad i'd have to pay $20 for docs-to-go, and it's pathetic in its ability to really word process and transfer files to your computer. With the TF, Polaris is pre-installed and works really really well.
Yes, the cons of the TF are the market place. IT is very small, and you can browse through it within 10 seconds. Since there is a huge influx of Android based tablets, I can only see the market growing exponentially, soon.
TF FTW!
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I had the iPad 1 and I currently have the iPad2 and TF. I really dislike the iOS operating system, since the 4.3.5 update, there is NO jailbreak, so you have to pay $10+ for a app. I've had the TF for only a day now, and I really do like it. I use my tablets mainly for internet, word processing, e-mail, etc. With the ipad i'd have to pay $20 for docs-to-go, and it's pathetic in its ability to really word process and transfer files to your computer. With the TF, Polaris is pre-installed and works really really well.
Yes, the cons of the TF are the market place. IT is very small, and you can browse through it within 10 seconds. Since there is a huge influx of Android based tablets, I can only see the market growing exponentially, soon.
TF FTW!
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Shame on you for pirating apps.
Shaquiel Harris said:
Shame on you for pirating apps.
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+1
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bighulk666 said:
I had the iPad 1 and I currently have the iPad2 and TF. I really dislike the iOS operating system, since the 4.3.5 update, there is NO jailbreak, so you have to pay $10+ for a app. I've had the TF for only a day now, and I really do like it. I use my tablets mainly for internet, word processing, e-mail, etc. With the ipad i'd have to pay $20 for docs-to-go, and it's pathetic in its ability to really word process and transfer files to your computer. With the TF, Polaris is pre-installed and works really really well.
Yes, the cons of the TF are the market place. IT is very small, and you can browse through it within 10 seconds. Since there is a huge influx of Android based tablets, I can only see the market growing exponentially, soon.
TF FTW!
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complain about no apps on your tablet
talk about pirating them in the same post
+1 against piracy. such activity would just prevent devs from developing apps.
to OP. the IOS didn't have tablet-ready apps when it first launched. had it been dismissed as a "dying animal" at that time would have prevented your the app-selection you're touting about now from being developed.
same goes for the andiod, or any other OSs.
btw: check out dungeon defenders to see what type of games the TF/honeycomb is capable of. still not convinced? get an ipad and be happy that way.
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Get yongzhs emulators. U don't need anymore games.
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I already have an iPhone4 so I ultimately have no use for a iPad or iPad2 since everything they can run I have on my phone. This is why I got my transformer. Different OS for different apps, and the keyboard dock makes it a perfect netbook replacement. Sadly though Honeycomb itself I believe is just a test bed. It's only a matter of months till ICS 4.0 is released and apps switch from being written mostly for 2.x to 4.x skipping the small tablet world of Honeycomb that lots of devs are ignoring. This is why I plan on selling the TF and getting the TF2 with the new quad core CPU once it comes out late this year.
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I already have an iPhone4 so I ultimately have no use for a iPad or iPad2 since everything they can run I have on my phone. This is why I got my transformer. Different OS for different apps, and the keyboard dock makes it a perfect netbook replacement. Sadly though Honeycomb itself I believe is just a test bed. It's only a matter of months till ICS 4.0 is released and apps switch from being written mostly for 2.x to 4.x skipping the small tablet world of Honeycomb that lots of devs are ignoring. This is why I plan on selling the TF and getting the TF2 with the new quad core CPU once it comes out late this year.
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It really all depends on what u use it for. Netbook at home, netbook in class, some random browsing, has scriptures and hymns for church, plays n64 great with hdmi for the big screen. Its perfectly find for what I use it for... for now I guess. Who knows what'll come out later.
U say the jump from os 2 to 4. What about a jump from 3 to 5, or 6? I think it'll be a little while before android disappears.
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I feel that tablet support will get far better in the next few months once ICS is released. The only reason the iPad has such great app support is because is it essential a giant sized iPhone, almost all apps that work on the iPhone work on the iPad in some shape or form (most of them are zoomed/stretched, which is supported in HC 3.2). As someone else mentioned Honeycomb is more of a test bed for Android, it's Google's first foray into a tablet based OS and with the first generation of anything, stuff is always sub-optimal.
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When you are asked by someone what your joyously typing away on, do they ask if its the Asus EEE Pad Transformer? Or do they often ask "is that an iPad?". Even when you tell them its your Transformer they still have no clue what it is.
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EXACTLY! When I first got mine and showed it off to a bunch of tech-oriented people at my computer lab job and in my IT classes, that's the first thing they say!
Shaquiel Harris said:
Shame on you for pirating apps.
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No, shame on Google for limiting the refund time to 15 minutes, which makes users turn to piracy to test out games/apps. Think about this for a minute: lets say you buy a game on your TF like Galaxy on Fire 2 that requires you to download additional content that could take up to 20 minutes to download and costs about $12. Once everything is downloaded, you start playing the game and you don't like it for some reason because either its glitchy, the controls suck, etc... if the return window was 24 hours like it used to be you could simply return the game and get your $12 back, but now you're screwed and have a game that you will never play again and you're out $12. Repeat this cycle a few times and you could be out a nice chunk of change, the more extreme option of this would be the buyer gets pissed and never buys another app again for the fear that they will get screwed the same way again.
****ty practices on the sellers end create the need for piracy, most people don't do it simply because they're cheap. Are PS3 and XBOX360 games really worth $60? If you buy 7 games, that's more than the price of both consoles and the price of a low-mid range computer!
Is it easier and really worth it to drive to a movie theater (which could be 20 minutes away), wait in line for anywhere from 5-60 minutes, pay $11-13 for a single ticket (which used to be $5 10-15 years ago for the same quality movie at the same theater), spend about the same amount on soda/popcorn/snacks, hopefully find at least two seats together (depending on how many people you're with), watch 20 minutes of previews, deal with assholes in the theater talking loudly (possibly on their cellphones) or throwing popcorn, having to perfectly choose when to go to the bathroom so you don't miss anything, finally watch the movie (which ended up sucking big time), filing out of the theater, and finally driving home while wondering why you actually wanted to go in the first place.
Or just simply pirate a half-decent copy a few days after the movie is released and watch it in the privacy of your own home where you have all the food you want and you can pause the movie to go take a piss whenever you want, all without spending a dime to watch it (excluding all the necessary stuff needed to obtain that pirated copy). If the movie was good, buy a copy of it when it comes out on DVD in a few months. If it sucked you just saved yourself a lot of time and money.
See what I mean?
LOL! Hypocrites.
farr3ll said:
After much deliberation on which tablet i would get, investigationg specs and options only, I went with the TF101 over the ipad 2. Whilst the transformer is an impressive beast is it really ready for the market considering the widespread lack of support compared to iOS?
As an avid gamer I am less than thrilled with the options available in these terms. I'm still in two minds on whether I get an iPad.
Can anyone make me feel better about my purchase?
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If you've come on here just to ask about how much fun Android is to use over boring IOS in day to day use then there's your answer.
If your such an avid gamer why buy either? you could buy both an xbox and a playstation for the same money as a transformer
hello,
first of all, i love follwing the tech and seeing present devices getting better with better softwares.. i own a xoom for 2 months and i really love it.. but -like most of the people here, probably- i believe the software is not fully optimized for the hardware.. in my computers i always used nvidia products, because i believe it did its job very good even when the ati competitors were better on the paper.. so here i am with a tegra 2 SoC and i cant find any game as smooth as ipad games..
now -in addition to my xoom- i was planning to buy a samsung galaxy tab 10.1 (one is for my girlfriend, one is for me but mostly to be used together) but when i was making some research, last night i found nvidia ULP and ipad 2 comparisons and could not believe the results.. ipad 2 was 2-6 times faster/better than the motorola xoom.. imeedieatly i downloaded the same tests and i ran them too and ended up with same results unfortunately.. and then i downloaded lots of high quality games and every time i ended between 20-25 FPS.. i think it is not satisfying..
i dont believe apple has the alien technology, i think the software makes the difference.. so i asked myself to questions;
"what do i plan to use my tablet for" and
"what is going to happen when iOS5 and ICS comes"???
my expectations from ISC is to bring more optimisation to our devices, i cant say no to new cool feautures but first i want my existing ones to be perfect...
to be honest, i can not answer both questions... i can only answer what i want from a tablet.. and again to be honest i guess i am hungry for performance, even though i do not need it. so in every tests tegra 2 cpu beats a5, and the web pages (the first thing i want my tablet to do professionally) are super faster loading then the ipad2 ... besides i love customizable home screen definition, i love being easy to carry my media from the computer or to the computer with one cable without any software.. and i love being able to connect my hard drive so that i can give up from my laptop once i buy a bluetooth keyboard..
but my second question; what is going to happen when iOS5 and ICS here? will iOS5 catch up with android by beating it in CPU and usefullness tests too or will ICS cacth up with the smoothnes and games performance and the promises they gave?
in my country asus transformer, acer iconia a500, ipad 2 16gb, motorola xoom are same prices and samsung galaxy tab is about 40 dollars more expencive in second hands or abroad products.. so i dont care about the price here.. what i am asking is which one is going to better according to your opinion between all these devices? and which one is going to give me more development and more increase in perfection?
i am so confused and every opinion is wellcomed.. i am planning to use it mostly for web browsing as a laptop replecement, gaming, photo and video making/editing/storing and -if possible- using engineering programs like the icircuit in ipad or the autocad in galaxy s (i have it on my galaxy s but i could not run it in tablet)..
so please share) thanks..
okay...
as you are FULLY aware... we are talking apples and oranges here
1. iOS is for people who want something out of the box.. not worried about setting much up and have a billion games... for now atleast (something my grandma would like to be honest)
2. Android OS is far superior with whats under the hood and the customizations and endless tweeking...
my simple answer is... do you want something the same as every other...er... individual (*snickers* - as the ad's would have you believe).. or something that is truly your OWN device
i bet 9 out of 10 people in the xoom forum has something that is entirely unique to the next... i love this aspect... i like having something a little different.. i like to tweek untill i break it or have the best device out there.. 3/4 of the time if there is an app for the iOS there is a better app for android.. for example.. there is only crap remote mouse apps for iOS and yet i have unified remote full for android a masterpiece and i can control nearly every aspect of my computer via a remote with my android devices (yes there is splashtop HD for iOS and android but this is not always a viable solution and trust me i have both)... this is just one example as i cbf putting down the many apps i have that are better (foto tile slideshow - the live wallpaper is another AWESOME app that comes to mind)
last and not least... lets remember software for both devices are going crazy.. however now the tables have turned with android leading the way and iOS playing catch up and ice cream is going to be one hell of an update to which im pretty sure xoom will be compatible =]
i know i may have not 100% been to topic but had to express something (you did say all views were welcome lol)
I agree with the above poster...and will add that no matter what we wish, we will never have the very best, fastest,most bleeding-edge device because once we buy, there will always be something newer, faster, better, etc. IOS gives you what it wants you to have. Android lets you have (or create) what you want.
If you are rooted, with Tiamat Hammerhead Rom and the Tachi oc gpu kernel, and a launcher like ADW Ex, could the Xoom be any smoother?
It does make a difference how hands-on you want to be.
thanks for it.. you have made very good points..
i guess i am trying to look at it as computers.. when i had my desktop it was not a big deal when one of the parts was getting old/slower becuase i was able to change only that one without spending big money... but once that world (both hardware and games) got larger it got harder to follow and find the best one.. so i felt like i was lost between nvidia and ati products.. then i switched to laptops when i became more mobile in daily life and when laptops offered more graphic power.. and i always thought GPU first and the ram 2nd, and the HDD 3rd.. CPU was ok to wait.. because CPU tech is already a lot higher than todays daily process needings..
so with the same feeling i have the same reflex to go for the better GPU one.. i feel like the weaker GPU one is going to get old faster/earlier.. this scares me..
and there is also the untidyness in the android world.. there are hundreds of phones with different specs and only a few of them has the full control of every feauture android can give you.. so when you buy a cheap android phone you are not only lacking some hardware, but also being some short on the software too.. they solved this mostly by making the tegra 2 the center of the tablets and i believe ICS will bring even more tidyness to the world just like apple world.. but i still have my suspicious with ICS, because i have read an opinion here in xda, he says ; ICS is a big development for 2.3 devices not for the 3.x devices.. but i want to believe better drivers will come and help us benefit from our hardware better.. nvidia has done that before when the game crysis was out, they increased the overall performance by %10 for every 8xxx card with a new firmware..
besides i made some research and some experiments; apperiantly this ULP is first defining the need of the FPS and then setting it as a limit to keep the power comsumption low.. so even though it can go faster or produce more FPS it stays in the limit of 28 especially in the desktop while ipad can go with 60 FPS.. i guess this is excatly what makes me jealous.. because i feel like my tablet does not have power to do that...
so basicly, i do not like apple anymore after they sue everyone they see as a thread... but i also believe the complains i made (the belief of the GPU being much more worse than the ipad 2 GPU) scares me.. i put my faith on the new software before, to nokia.. and every time they have given a new software to their "smartphones" they ruined it even more.. so far, in android, everything is just going good.. every new version came with better optimizations and i want to believe it is going to be like this in the future..
i guess my opinions and fears are mostly emotional and coming from my unfortunate experiences.. but i get attached to every device of mine and i want them to be good enough and last long enough .. so i do not want to feel like i am buying something to be old so quick under the shadow of new coming kal-el and already existing apple ipad 2..
Buy a xoom and root it! You have the use of SD card, flash drives, and USB hdd's. My wife looked at the options and realized she takes photos and needs access to her camera and to her hdd she uses to store those photos. Not one other tablet can do what the xoom can do! Sure it has some flaws, but at the same time it has less of those flaws than any tablet I have tested so far. My Logitech wireless mouse works, and every other device I have at my house. One cable to do it all, not several diff things like the tab 10.1. You want a custom PC, then here it is!
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Maybe you should just be prepared to buy and sell whatever you no longer want so you can buy something new.Unfortunately none of us, except e.mote can tell the future.
I guess your points are valid considering alot if the economic uncertainty.. However one must argue that the ipad in all its glory is not a technological advancement.. Think about it.. U can do some neat things yet you cant replace a desktop with it.. Yet the Android comes so close it can almost blur the line entirely.. You can also try and get a windows 7 tab for cheaper as i was looking at these but i weighed up the usefulness and the tech side in me and now people watch me screw around with the xoom on the train and how individualistic it is and then my phone is a new avenue for full customization.. Sure they are not for all and its funny to watch the smartest people i know fumble with such a device and stick to apple babble like its the be all and get slugged a premium its great to see the sheep follow =]
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Yesterday i found an ipad2 from a friend and put the xoom and the ipad on the table together and decided to make both devices very tired with my expectations.. I wanted to see which one was going to give up first (or which one i was foing to give up first ) i jailbreaked the ipad and have already rooted my xoom.. First did web experience, turned flash off and let them race .. Xoom was showing off in the beginning.. But once the tabs were more than 6 it started to slow down, on the other hand ipads slowing down was like this; wheb i cliked on a tab my waiting time extended lineerly with the quantity of tabs.. Then i looked at the photos and videos but apperiantlly itunes is tuning photos to a lower size when sending them to ipad.. So i did not like this.. Because i like to carry my stuff.. What if i wanted to carry the original sized photos to another device? Ipad failed here.. But then i nova2 in xoom, and it felt so bad.. Like 15-25 fps.. Dungeon defenders is not so different either.. But i kept testing and ipad kept failing.. Espesially in file management and easy file transferring and independence lets xoom to be the leader.. But then i learned google bought moto.. And ICS is planning for new quad core tegra3 platform or some other quad core platform with so much more powerfull gpu s.. I felt like ourtablets have been sold us ust to be temprorary leaders of the leaders.. I mean i paid this money to this tablet to have the dominant of the market when ICS is out.. But apperiantly ICS will come with new dominants.. So i will feel like i paid not only for a temprory OS but also a temprorary hardware.. I know , no hardware ia immortal but i am afraid i wont be able to have benefit of android world once the quad cores are out.. I know this hecause when i had galqxy s i was able to do anything in android world but now i have galaxy ace qnd i hardly cqn listen to rqdio akd write this at the same time.. It is lqgging as hell.. So this fear of being outdated in the very early future is taking over me.. I now understand why all the idevice owners are so cool about anything because they dont have to think about being outdated anytime.. But i have to think about overxloxking my device to play a game my galaxy s or iphone 3gs is already capqble of playing out of the box..
I love android world and i really want it to be better and i have read it was going to be 1.8 times faster and better when the ICS is out.. I want to bwlieve this but i qlso do not want my device outdated before at least, one year..
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Yesterday i found an ipad2 from a friend and put the xoom and the ipad on the table together and decided to make both devices very tired with my expectations.. I wanted to see which one was going to give up first (or which one i was foing to give up first ) i jailbreaked the ipad and have already rooted my xoom.. First did web experience, turned flash off and let them race .. Xoom was showing off in the beginning.. But once the tabs were more than 6 it started to slow down, on the other hand ipads slowing down was like this; wheb i cliked on a tab my waiting time extended lineerly with the quantity of tabs.. Then i looked at the photos and videos but apperiantlly itunes is tuning photos to a lower size when sending them to ipad.. So i did not like this.. Because i like to carry my stuff.. What if i wanted to carry the original sized photos to another device? Ipad failed here.. But then i nova2 in xoom, and it felt so bad.. Like 15-25 fps.. Dungeon defenders is not so different either.. But i kept testing and ipad kept failing.. Espesially in file management and easy file transferring and independence lets xoom to be the leader.. But then i learned google bought moto.. And ICS is planning for new quad core tegra3 platform or some other quad core platform with so much more powerfull gpu s.. I felt like ourtablets have been sold us ust to be temprorary leaders of the leaders.. I mean i paid this money to this tablet to have the dominant of the market when ICS is out.. But apperiantly ICS will come with new dominants.. So i will feel like i paid not only for a temprory OS but also a temprorary hardware.. I know , no hardware ia immortal but i am afraid i wont be able to have benefit of android world once the quad cores are out.. I know this hecause when i had galqxy s i was able to do anything in android world but now i have galaxy ace qnd i hardly cqn listen to rqdio akd write this at the same time.. It is lqgging as hell.. So this fear of being outdated in the very early future is taking over me.. I now understand why all the idevice owners are so cool about anything because they dont have to think about being outdated anytime.. But i have to think about overxloxking my device to play a game my galaxy s or iphone 3gs is already capqble of playing out of the box..
I love android world and i really want it to be better and i have read it was going to be 1.8 times faster and better when the ICS is out.. I want to bwlieve this but i qlso do not want my device outdated before at least, one year..
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essentially... when do u want a device... NOW or NEVER?.. there is always going to be a newer better device in the future... why did you buy your phone when u did when there are better phones out now or the future... same with your computer... same crap... if you wait for the next one you will never have anything and never enjoy the benefits of such a device... personally im happy to have a device for 12 months maybe less and grab the next newest bit... because someone else in my family will benefit form the older software and i continue with the newest gadget
This is my sentiment exactly. You sound like a mouse who is caught running on a treadmill. Get off and relax a bit. Enjoy your Xoom or give it to your lucky girlfriend and get something else. Personally, I've gone thru three Android tablets just since November, and I'll be keeping my Xoom for a while...there's still so much app development that needs to happen to catch up to the tablet form-factor/resolution, and to exploit tegra 2 ---it will be a while until quad cores are fully exploited, I'm sure.
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This is my sentiment exactly. You sound like a mouse who is caught running on a treadmill. Get off and relax a bit. Enjoy your Xoom or give it to your lucky girlfriend and get something else. Personally, I've gone thru three Android tablets just since November, and I'll be keeping my Xoom for a while...there's still so much app development that needs to happen to catch up to the tablet form-factor/resolution, and to exploit tegra 2 ---it will be a while until quad cores are fully exploited, I'm sure.
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^^ exactly... this is my second tablet in less than a year and just the difference between froyo and honeycomb is astounding... i did my research before buying this tab.. in fact from my first experience i didn't want another tab at all... i despise apple products on general principle (not relevant but yeh) so it took alot of research and convincing about another tab.... i was going to buy a galaxy tab 10.1 yet upon buying it at auction i came across the xoom.. and viewed the true capabilities and noted that the galaxy tab is just a android iOS device and the xoom is a true android device and something that can fulfill my experimental side..
Just buy the iPad 2.
2 great tablets, no one needs to persuade you to use android.
Why do apple fans come into the android forums? Cuz they want more than their little crapple can do!
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Why do apple fans come into the android forums? Cuz they want more than their little crapple can do!
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huh, why would anyone who doesn't own any android products would even register on this site in the first place?
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Why do apple fans come into the android forums? Cuz they want more than their little crapple can do!
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i am only fan of people who develope, share, help and moreover ask to themselves and try to answer what they are doing with their devices and what they are planning to add to this in the future.. i am not fan of companies..
i know myself, i did this mistake before; i saw the 60 FPS shiny world of the iphone and when i was most bored with my lag-crazy nokia i swicthed to it (3gs) and found myself trying to buy a perfect book page by page and i was not able to choose the chapters..
when i had iphone i tried to customize the hardware limitations, unfortunately it was impossible.. then i tried to make things easier (like tried to get rid of itunes) that failed too.. and after 2 months i realised my little shiny and so called super optimized phone was lagging, this was when i learned iOS was able to lag too..
then after another failing nokia symbian update experience i tried android with galaxy s.. and that world my friend, became my addiction..
however; when i was making surfing throuh other forum sites i ran into some opinions and fears. they have become my fears too.. now i am making a summary of them in very short sentences, so i believe i will make myself more clear;
first thing like i said i always believed in every mobile device the GPU gets older first.. so, especially in my laptops i always tried to choose the better GPU over te CPU or the other specs.. and one day i was reading reviews about tegra 2 potential but then i saw ipad 2 was -sometimes- up to 5 times faster than it in graphic tests... that made me scared..
the second thing; i am fully aware of that our hardware is as valuable as its software and nokia failed me about it again and again.. one day, i found an web page which says ICS will make the performance 1.8 times better.. i assume (i want to assume) this is mostly graphic performance because CPU performance is already the best but i thing nvidia drivers needs to be optimized.. so the best thing is to wait for ICS and then decide about how android-tablet worlds growing bigger and success.. but, on the other hand, we are waiting for the tomorrows technology with yesterdays device.. this is my second fear, because i heard the quad core products are being released in this fall.. i am scared of being outdated even before i can enjoy the full performance of my xoom..
i have just shared these two fears and then realised apple owners did not have them.. so i asked here if apple is better at them.. it was not an "should i buy apple or android" topic.. but if people said "tegra 2 and honeycomb are temprory and will be history together soon and the real devices are the quad-core ones" i would go for an ipad 2 (maybe) for 6-9 months and then go back to android..
and not to forget; in my years, i have forgatten lots of device i used with their good or bad sides but i have never forgatten the people i shared knowledge and experience with.. and i am a fan of them..
I do see your point to the temp issues with tegra 2, but at the same time the I pad can't do flash. There is only one thing that has failed to stop the use of my $3500 alienware laptop that is 4yrs old. It burns discs and I am in sure the xoom can use a USB DVD burner. So can the ipad2 support an external USB hdd? Can you use all of Facebook in the browser on the ipad2? Can you push the ipad2 beyond what the box says? NO! That is why I did not even look at apple. My wife does photography and apple could not supply what she demanded it to do, so I bought her a xoom too. So far I have not seen one other tablet come close to it. I took into account something new will come out later, but at the same time it will be an infant in it's release as well. Not much using dual core anyway. Apple is for the kids that can't jump off the cliff into the water. Android is for those wanting to live on the edge and beyond. I can work, play, relax, and tinker with my xoom. Ipad2 can't deliver for me at all. I really think you have to ask yourself what do you want your tablet to do?
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I do see your point to the temp issues with tegra 2, but at the same time the I pad can't do flash. There is only one thing that has failed to stop the use of my $3500 alienware laptop that is 4yrs old. It burns discs and I am in sure the xoom can use a USB DVD burner. So can the ipad2 support an external USB hdd? Can you use all of Facebook in the browser on the ipad2? Can you push the ipad2 beyond what the box says? NO! That is why I did not even look at apple. My wife does photography and apple could not supply what she demanded it to do, so I bought her a xoom too. So far I have not seen one other tablet come close to it. I took into account something new will come out later, but at the same time it will be an infant in it's release as well. Not much using dual core anyway. Apple is for the kids that can't jump off the cliff into the water. Android is for those wanting to live on the edge and beyond. I can work, play, relax, and tinker with my xoom. Ipad2 can't deliver for me at all. I really think you have to ask yourself what do you want your tablet to do?
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thank you.. i have narrowed down the equation to samsung tab 10.1 vs xoom .. i am trying to choose between them now.. i saw samurai 2 vengence and some other games and know i am so sure it is good enough as a toy too..
None of the tegra games seem to work right on honeycomb. I do like scrabble from ea. And cordy is kinda fun. Played one of the sniper games and it wasn't bad at all. Most of the games you have to buy and I just haven't found a good one I like. I wish halo reach could be done. Then I would be set!
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I bought my Xoom for a very specific reason. At the time, it was the only device running Honeycomb, and the only (major) tablet with an OS specifically designed for tablets. The iPad is great and all, but, at the end of the day, it's just a really big iPhone. I already have an iPhone, and I don't need two. The apps are better on iOS for stuff like games and cutesy programs, but better on Android for stuff like tweaking programs or developer programs.
Really, the decision comes down to whether you're going to use the device like a "normal" user or a "power" user. If all you're going to do is browse the net and check email (and play games), get the iPad. If you want some power user features (better desktop remote control, better ssh, better customization, nonstandard kernels, rooting that does a lot more, etc), then grab the Xoom.
Generally speaking, Apple's products cater to the non-tech-savvy, which sometimes annoy those of us that are tech savvy. Android, though, caters to the more tech savvy. This is why Android is more complicated to use and it also explains the app selections.
As the commercial goes, "it just works". This is true. Apple's devices just work. They stay in control of your device in an attempt to make your life easier and the device easier to use. Android doesn't do this, but it also has a lot more bugs and such (hence better for tech savvy people).
So, to sum everything up, if you're going to use it for just normal stuff (browsing, email, games) and you're not overly tech savvy, get the iPad. If you're tech savvy and plan to remote control computers or other such advanced features, get the Xoom.
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I bought my Xoom for a very specific reason. At the time, it was the only device running Honeycomb, and the only (major) tablet with an OS specifically designed for tablets. The iPad is great and all, but, at the end of the day, it's just a really big iPhone. I already have an iPhone, and I don't need two. The apps are better on iOS for stuff like games and cutesy programs, but better on Android for stuff like tweaking programs or developer programs.
Really, the decision comes down to whether you're going to use the device like a "normal" user or a "power" user. If all you're going to do is browse the net and check email (and play games), get the iPad. If you want some power user features (better desktop remote control, better ssh, better customization, nonstandard kernels, rooting that does a lot more, etc), then grab the Xoom.
Generally speaking, Apple's products cater to the non-tech-savvy, which sometimes annoy those of us that are tech savvy. Android, though, caters to the more tech savvy. This is why Android is more complicated to use and it also explains the app selections.
As the commercial goes, "it just works". This is true. Apple's devices just work. They stay in control of your device in an attempt to make your life easier and the device easier to use. Android doesn't do this, but it also has a lot more bugs and such (hence better for tech savvy people).
So, to sum everything up, if you're going to use it for just normal stuff (browsing, email, games) and you're not overly tech savvy, get the iPad. If you're tech savvy and plan to remote control computers or other such advanced features, get the Xoom.
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Very well said--great points.
Hey guys. Im on t-mobile right now and i was wondering if i should stay with em and get the Galaxy S II, or switch to verizon and get the iPhone 5 when it comes out later this month. I dont really care about services and all that. All i care about is the phone itself and which one is better and has more features and all that good stuff.
Thanks in advanced!
Remember! Im only 13. Gimme a break!
Well if you like playing games...get the iPhone.
For two reasons:
1) The App Store in general has higher quality games (and a much larger selection). (Real Racing 2, Infinity Blade, Rage HD, etc.)
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285162 The A5 has much better graphics performance than the Exynos.
On the other hand if you love modding and tweaking your phone, Android FTW! Jailbreaking is rather limited in comparison.
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Well if you like playing games...get the iPhone.
For two reasons:
1) The App Store in general has higher quality games (and a much larger selection). (Real Racing 2, Infinity Blade, Rage HD, etc.)
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285162 The A5 has much better graphics performance than the Exynos.
On the other hand if you love modding and tweaking your phone, Android FTW! Jailbreaking is rather limited in comparison.
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I can confirm that about Real Racing 2. I have it on my iPhone 4 and it's, to me, a smartphone version of Gran Turismo from the Playstation for gameplay and physics. Just a superb smartphone racing game. And the games on iPhone do tend to be superior.
Of course there is going to be a bias in this forum. However, all bias aside, what till the iPhones press release to see what it has to offer. Then decide if a functional phone (with all its downfalls in what I choose for a phone os, it is a very functional phone out of the box. Can't deny that) is for you, or if you like the freedom of android (where my bias lies ) choose that. Although android has flaws like ios, wp7 or any other, SGS2 did a great job of tackling some based on reviews I have read. Based on this and test driving them both, make your decision. Either way have fun with your shiny new toy. Also you could wait for the next nexus, which has me torn between that and the SGS2.
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In all honesty this is like a PC versus Mac comparison. The Galaxy S II is going to be a remarkable phone specs wise, and going by the benchies I've seen the software is great to boot, but Apple is good at appealing to what some people want. An easy UI, while locked down, providing a great experience, but nonetheless I'm far from being an apple fan, with their locked down environment, you wonder why it's called jailbreaking when you root your phone? The fact of the matter is (to me), people are going to flock to the Iphone 5 because of the marketing hype, those in the know will grab the Galaxy SII because they know what's up.
im gonna have to agree to disagree. the galaxy s2 does have some great games as well made by non other Gameloft. asphalt 6 is great looking on the s2, you got games from EA like Need for Speed and many more...For the person who said you can tweak the galaxy s2 more than the iphone you are completely and utterly wrong. for me when i had my iphone 4 i tweaked it up so much it looked like a car out of pimp my ride once i finished with it..in cydia there are so many hundreds of tweaks and stuff that you can do is unbelieavable....also there is an application called dreamboard were you can change so many themes..go on youtube to check it out...
all in all though its down to you little buddy what you want to choose.. i have the galaxy s2 and im very happy...does what i need and my next phone will probably be the s3 if it comes out or shall i say when it comes out....but if you want quality games or shall i say more games then the iphone is the one for you...but true wait tilll they announce it and see what its like
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im gonna have to agree to disagree. the galaxy s2 does have some great games as well made by non other Gameloft. asphalt 6 is great looking on the s2, you got games from EA like Need for Speed and many more...For the person who said you can tweak the galaxy s2 more than the iphone you are completely and utterly wrong. for me when i had my iphone 4 i tweaked it up so much it looked like a car out of pimp my ride once i finished with it..in cydia there are so many hundreds of tweaks and stuff that you can do is unbelieavable....also there is an application called dreamboard were you can change so many themes..go on youtube to check it out...
all in all though its down to you little buddy what you want to choose.. i have the galaxy s2 and im very happy...does what i need and my next phone will probably be the s3 if it comes out or shall i say when it comes out....but if you want quality games or shall i say more games then the iphone is the one for you...but true wait tilll they announce it and see what its like
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The problem with the whole "Games" thing is that Apple was first to the punch, and they release a static platform, while me personally I dislike anything apple, the fact is that most companies that produce games go for what works, and sadly iOS is the first in line they develop for, stats wise though if they released games for the Android platform things would be much different, but I guess most people have an Apple on the brain so a lot of the good stuff we see for the iOS won't hit Android.
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The problem with the whole "Games" thing is that Apple was first to the punch, and they release a static platform, while me personally I dislike anything apple, the fact is that most companies that produce games go for what works, and sadly iOS is the first in line they develop for, stats wise though if they released games for the Android platform things would be much different, but I guess most people have an Apple on the brain so a lot of the good stuff we see for the iOS won't hit Android.
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true true...but if you look we do have some amazing games for the android though...just because iOS gets first dips doesnt mean we dont have any good ones..and if you read you will see in the next few months dev will be working hard on bringing some exclusives games to android first but anyway if someone wants to buy a phone purely for games they might as well buy a console...
no offence but, I am kind of disappointed by this thread because it seems to me people here have gaming as their number 1 priority.
Dude he's 13. When I was 13 I played games all day on my iPod touch.
I am with Android all the way unless the Iphone comes out with dual GSM CDMA support built in then i am Iphone due to the fact that i like to travel with my phone and give my old phones to relatives over seas.
iPhone is better for you if you like games, simplicity and if you are happy with stock features . Android in general is better for modding and upgrading etc. Jailbreak is limited.
just go for iphone
won't regret
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The only thing you can't do with jailbroken iPhone is change kernels,and cpu speed so saying it's limited is really wrong. Jail broken iPhone has lots of possibilities since the apps they have are way more polished than android apps. Idk why would you change cpu speed and kernels anyway they run flawlessly.
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I finally had a chance to play with the SGS2 this morning. Although a very nice phone, I saw nothing better than the Infuse 4G. Everything the SGS2 has the Infuse has or will have except the dual core CPU and NFC. The Infuse display is not only the same as the SGS2, but is also larger. The styles are almost the same, except the Infuse uses an unbroken black-chrome bezel from front to back. The SGS2 uses a partial black-chrome surround around the front.
As for Gingerbread, the Infuse will eventually have that.
My suggestion would be to wait for the iPhone 5 and see how it fares.
iphone it is!!
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The only thing you can't do with jailbroken iPhone is change kernels,and cpu speed so saying it's limited is really wrong. Jail broken iPhone has lots of possibilities since the apps they have are way more polished than android apps. Idk why would you change cpu speed and kernels anyway they run flawlessly.
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Well for sgs 2 I do change my cpu speed. However not for overclocking, but for underclocking. The thing is that on 800mhz, it still runs like it is on 1.2ghz and can handle anything currently available, so why not just save my phone the waste of using my up battery on something unneeded.
Or...wait for the Nexus Prime. Not only will it decimate iPhone 5 AND the SII specwise, it'll be loaded with ICS. iPhone is seeing the end of it's days and Apple knows it. Thats why all the "groundbreaking" and "game changing" features they're introducing with iOS 5, are features that already are, and have been available on Android since 1.0. They're blatantly copying Android to keep the iPhone relevant. And even if you do go with the SII, it will probably be seeing an ICS update not long after the Prime is released, so you're SII will have just become better(again) than the just released iPhone. Simple decision I think...
At the end of the day, Samsung will always be miles ahead of Apple when it comes to hardware, with things like screen quality and processing power; and this is because Samsung is competing against other manufacturers such as HTC and Motorola, because android users can choose more than one handset (thank God.)
However Apple doesn't really need to compete, its got a following of...I'm not sure tbh, but its enough to make them the richest company in America.
I'm far from a fan of Apple, but I doubt they're too bothered when it comes to who releases the better handset; considering the fanboy following they have.
Well spec wise, i think the Iphone 5 will come out on top with it's sgx 543mp2 GPU. if it performs practically more than 100% better than the Mali on the sgs2 when running a 720p gaming benchmark test, well that's just a huge facepalm right there.
And as said if you want gaming, the iPhone 5 is your bet for now. The iOs platform holds the gaming spotlight right now and will prolly till say the next yr or 8 months till it will share the spotlight with android.
MY FAULT I POSTED THE WRONG VIDEO! I mean, seriously? Is there any need at this point in time? Will there be any hardware that can even run it by this fall or summer aside from maaaaaybe the Galaxy S 3? I dont understand it. Sometimes I feel like google should just keep all their OS development in the closet for at least 1.5-2 years at a time. 1 year minimum. Then do a controlled release with a absolutely bug-free platform. Im already seeing and feeling the gadget fatigue setting in. For christs sake a friend of mine just picked up a set of iPhone 3g's for free for his whole family like a year ago! And they are still liking them! I just dont think it makes sense to keep flooding the market so hard with devices and devices. But then again, that seems to be the correct formula for going up against the all-mighty fruit company. idk. This is great for developers, bad for consumers i guess. But im sure you all know that. Im just ranting.
THE NEWS ABOUT IT APPEARS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO!!!!
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I mean, seriously? Is there any need at this point in time? Will there be any hardware that can even run it by this fall or summer aside from maaaaaybe the Galaxy S 3? I dont understand it. Sometimes I feel like google should just keep all their OS development in the closet for at least 1.5-2 years at a time. 1 year minimum. Then do a controlled release with a absolutely bug-free platform. Im already seeing and feeling the gadget fatigue setting in. For christs sake a friend of mine just picked up a set of iPhone 3g's for free for his whole family like a year ago! And they are still liking them! I just dont think it makes sense to keep flooding the market so hard with devices and devices. But then again, that seems to be the correct formula for going up against the all-mighty fruit company. idk. This is great for developers, bad for consumers i guess. But im sure you all know that. Im just ranting.
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why would you make a thread about android and link it to a video about iPad and Sony's new handheld? Troll
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Well it was the first information I have heard about it, and I just happen to have xda open in another tab so... Did you even watch the video? Also did you even read what I said directly above the video? Seems like we know who the REAL troll is here. I own an Infuse btw so wtf dude? Srsly.
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Not starting **** I was seriously asking a question. Nowhere in the video did it say anything about 5.0
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Not starting **** I was seriously asking a question. Nowhere in the video did it say anything about 5.0
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Youtube had showed the wrong video in the player when I watched it. The title in youtube as well as the share link was for a completely different video. Its my ffault obviously for not checking that the video was the right one before posting. My bad.
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Youtube had showed the wrong video in the player when I watched it. The title in youtube as well as the share link was for a completely different video. Its my ffault obviously for not checking that the video was the right one before posting. My bad.
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Many of us still are using gingerbread in our devices and even some of them are shipped with froyo on it!
Meanwhile ICS isn't even finished perfectly yet so I don't understand why they shouldn't continue developing ICS before even starting Jelly bean...
I say go.
I think its a great idea. I not going to complain about more and new features. I also LOVE the feeling on an major android upgrade. And as for flooding the market with phones, Its fantastic because it makes companies compete to give you the best product. In the end we WIN!!!!!!!!!!.
This is absolutely awesome.
jelly bean is going to kill IOS !
I don't like google releasing a new version of O/S with less than one year gap. It's just my opinion though.
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Many of us still are using gingerbread in our devices and even some of them are shipped with froyo on it!
Meanwhile ICS isn't even finished perfectly yet so I don't understand why they shouldn't continue developing ICS before even starting Jelly bean...
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This statement makes no sense whatsoever. Continue developing ICS before starting jellybean? Do you even understand what a software version is? ICS is Android. Jellybean will still be android. As Android gets updated, and enough changes get made to the software, that is when they decide to change a name. So in all actuality, jellybean is ICS that has been developed further.......
Umm.. Haven't even got ICS yet and rumors about 5.0 ? Duh! this makes me jealous and frustrate!
Google seems to be restless. Remember when Honeycomb was released, they announced ICS at the same time! We are developing with 3.1 in mind and can't even think of exclusively using newer features to Android 4.x because of the major lag in new devices.
This isn't good for developers, it just gives us more headaches to control the fragments.
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This makes absolutely zero sense for them to do this.
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I agree that it would be too soon to relewse a new is just recently after ice came out and with only 1% of phones using ice right now. They should prioritize updating tlthe rest of the phones to ice and ironing out and building that os to recognition instead of rolling out something new. It would totally make ice purposeless in my eyes and a waste. I know technology is ever expanding but seems its expanding too quick to anyone to enjoy it long enough to stick to one thing.
From what I heard its for tablets right ? So basically this is like honeycomb something meant for the tablet community . If its for mobiles then this is a very bad thing ,I mean seriously how many devices come with ICS now ? 5 ?
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From what I heard its for tablets right ? So basically this is like honeycomb something meant for the tablet community . If its for mobiles then this is a very bad thing ,I mean seriously how many devices come with ICS now ? 5 ?
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Its going to be for phones and tabs its going to be an overlay capable device for PC s which in my opinion pretty cool. Especially if u like Linux already. And were r not talking about a release for at least 6 months. Everything is just hear say for now
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If 5.0 comes out before 2013, Google is stupider than I thought.
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My whole thing about it is this, how do you explain to people who are still on Froyo, this is something new and great and you should use it! Their devices are supported by the manufacturer. If the manufacturer (like 3 main ones) dont keep up with the upgrade schedule with all their onslaught of devices, then whats the point?
I feel as though Android is being developed so rapidly that it seems as though they dont even care about what devices are out, or which ones "matter" to the market more. Its all about development for them. (which isnt necessarily bad) And for manufacturers, its all about flood flood flood the market with every new spec technology they can in order to not accidentally fall behind Apple. This is the honest to goodness truth i fear!!
Companies are trying their absolute best to make certain that they dont get caught by surprise with some Apple super device---so they keep putting out a new device the instant they make a little headway in specs. They are too afraid of letting the market settle for longer than 3 months!! For fear that Apple will announce a launch all of the sudden and bring out a 1080p hex core smartphone with 20 gb of ram and 128 gb of hard disk. lol! Its really starting to piss me off. Its starting to become a childish game of "oh we did/have that already, its not new."
These companies really have to let the market catch its breath. I mean here in the U.S. people are still trying to fight their way out of this recession, and yet Samsung and Android expect me to buy a Galaxy Nexus since its the ONLY device with ICS! Indirectly though it may be, its still frusterating as hell. I say 1 year, minimum. Dont tell people about it in the news, dont leak anything, and dont throw it on devices unless it really makes a big difference-or after one year! I mean, google will always have their ad revenue to sit on. So I really dont understand the rush to release. ---rant complete---