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Galaxy S2 what do you think?

http://www.redmondpie.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-specs-will-blow-your-brains-out/
what do you think about this phone?

Pretty incredible. I guess this is still single core though?

rumors.. rumors.. rumors...
Where is the dual hd projectors?

Quite impressed but I agree with the author - instead of focusing on putting out faster processors that barely make a difference with the apps that we have, they should really work on increasing battery life. If the 2ghz makes the battery last a shorter time than my Captivate then it just isn't worth it. I'd much rather have the same specs we have now but with a battery that can last 2 full days with normal use instead of one. I'm not saying I'm unhappy with my current battery life, it easily gets me through a day, but I'd prefer to only charge every other day if the option was there.

Krad said:
rumors.. rumors.. rumors...
Where is the dual hd projectors?
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I head it will mow your lawn and change the oil in your car too. Spread the word..

cliffgardner said:
I head it will mow your lawn and change the oil in your car too. Spread the word..
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Damn...sign me up..I got a 4 car and 1 SUV household to change the oil on and over 1 acre of yard to mow
Mac

I'd honestly be much more excited to see samsung commit to gingerbread for its current (and still top of the market) generation

I appreciate the bump of the screen to "4.3 in" I tested my friend's droid x, and I like how "full" it feels XD

This speculation looks cool, but even if it is "real" it would most likely be push back to like Q4 of 2011, Honestly Samsung has pushed back Froyo so much. Those stats look great but they really need to work with their software to enhance android OS for their Hummingbird CPU architecture. The snapdragon Cpu is so enhanced with Froyo, hopefully Gingerbread... hopin... the actual device looks great though. I like the slate design.

Me wants.
Me drools
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As far as bettery life is concerned I doubt it will make a huge impact. From what I've read the dual core designs don't really require much more power than their single core counterparts so I imagine they would have a 2ghz CPU designed similarly in efficiency. I'm with the idea though that it sounds like overkill but if you put the hardware out someone will find a way to use it. With this phone being as fast as it is ill imagine ill be able to ride out my contract with it no problem. I like having the latest and greatest but if nothing really takes advantage of it before the next Gen comes out its not worth it. It is amazing to see the strides these smartphones are taking.

Cool. But it's so worthless.
the 1ghz hummingbird processor is fast enough for EVERYTHING.
And the design.. it's nothing special. All these phones are looking for and more alike (iphone shape-ish). They need to create something a bit more fancy.

stuff said:
Cool. But it's so worthless.
the 1ghz hummingbird processor is fast enough for EVERYTHING.
And the design.. it's nothing special. All these phones are looking for and more alike (iphone shape-ish). They need to create something a bit more fancy.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.

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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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Agreed. I want to buy the Otterbox case when it comes out, but I really don't want to cover up the phone's good looks with it. The checkering on the back cover looks really great. And it's so slim! This is a dilemma of great proportions.

\/icious said:
I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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I'm not a really big fan of the Captivate's design. All the curves just end up wasting space for no particular reason other than to look cool while at the same time making it so different from other phones that there are far, far fewer accessories available for us than pretty much any other 2.1/2.2 Android phone.
I like that CGI mockup of a possible Galaxy S2, it's minimalist and would be very well suited to having an aftermarket case, unlike ours, which tend to look way too rounded after putting on a case.
The thing I'm most interested in is if the AT&T version of the phone will again be a stripped down, gimped, bloatware-filled version of the international version. I will not buy another smartphone until there is one available that has a FFC and a flash. I think it's pretty silly to go through the trouble of redesigning the entire outer casing of the phone while removing features. You're just spending more money for less (it costs far more to make a separate production line for new bodies than it does to simply keep the FFC in; as we've all seen from the Vibrant mods, the FFC assembly is DIRT CHEAP).

BodaciousDrake said:
Agreed. I want to buy the Otterbox case when it comes out, but I really don't want to cover up the phone's good looks with it. The checkering on the back cover looks really great. And it's so slim! This is a dilemma of great proportions.
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Yeah I wont be throwing a case on this bad boy. I was actually going to look into maybe clear coating this thing or something just to give it a little resiliance but since I have insurance ill just rma a new one if gets too beat up
JPS81 said:
I'm not a really big fan of the Captivate's design. All the curves just end up wasting space for no particular reason other than to look cool while at the same time making it so different from other phones that there are far, far fewer accessories available for us than pretty much any other 2.1/2.2 Android phone.
I like that CGI mockup of a possible Galaxy S2, it's minimalist and would be very well suited to having an aftermarket case, unlike ours, which tend to look way too rounded after putting on a case.
The thing I'm most interested in is if the AT&T version of the phone will again be a stripped down, gimped, bloatware-filled version of the international version. I will not buy another smartphone until there is one available that has a FFC and a flash. I think it's pretty silly to go through the trouble of redesigning the entire outer casing of the phone while removing features. You're just spending more money for less (it costs far more to make a separate production line for new bodies than it does to simply keep the FFC in; as we've all seen from the Vibrant mods, the FFC assembly is DIRT CHEAP).
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to me I think the phone shouldn't look like it needs to be covered up with a case. I'm not so sure I understand where your coming from on the design/ accessories issue as I really have not noticed us lacking something other phones have but I really don't keep up with that stuff. I agree about the flash and FFC. I was a little disappointed when I saw a flash was not included.

Can only dream...

Lee1733 said:
Quite impressed but I agree with the author - instead of focusing on putting out faster processors that barely make a difference with the apps that we have, they should really work on increasing battery life. If the 2ghz makes the battery last a shorter time than my Captivate then it just isn't worth it. I'd much rather have the same specs we have now but with a battery that can last 2 full days with normal use instead of one. I'm not saying I'm unhappy with my current battery life, it easily gets me through a day, but I'd prefer to only charge every other day if the option was there.
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Yeah. I'm with Lee on this one. If it is single core, aps will open marginally quicker with the performance limiter being the wireless network. The only benefit I can see if multitasking. I foresee a 2ghz single core phone having poor performance in battery life. A dual core properly architectured can come out with similar battery performance to single. I wish Samsung would focus on improving the current product, and understand the fact that their phones have to be hacked...not to overclock, or over perform; but to make the phone perform the way the hardware allows it to. Not what the software limits it to. I am sure they formatted the drives to preserve the battery life, and not hit the processor so hard, but hey if you roll out a 1GHZ CPU, it should run like a 1GHZ CPU. I love the hardware and look forward to an official release of Froyo. Until then the leaked version with lag fix works great for me. (GPS and all)

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As far as bettery life is concerned I doubt it will make a huge impact. From what I've read the dual core designs don't really require much more power than their single core counterparts so I imagine they would have a 2ghz CPU designed similarly in efficiency. I'm with the idea though that it sounds like overkill but if you put the hardware out someone will find a way to use it. With this phone being as fast as it is ill imagine ill be able to ride out my contract with it no problem. I like having the latest and greatest but if nothing really takes advantage of it before the next Gen comes out its not worth it. It is amazing to see the strides these smartphones are taking.
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I hear the sound of a veteran over zealous overclocker. Let me check, what bridge (s) for pencil overclock?

I just want a higher resolution display. Not to sound like an apple fanboy but what the heck was Samsung thinking? I can see the pixels so clearly on this display (maybe cause its super amoled )
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[Q] Samsung Captivate or G2

I have the chance to get a new phone, and I have decided its going to be between the G2 and the Samsung Captivate. I'm on the AT&T network, and I'm probably not gonna have data, so the speeds of data and 2G/3G network speeds shouldn't be that much of a factor. I did research on them and both of them seem pretty good but I'm not sure which of the two I should actually get.
I do text a lot so the keyboard on the G2 would be a little helpful, but the Captivate has that nice Super AMOLED screen. I do however plan to be doing a lot with the phone, like rooting it, so please keep that in mind as well.
What would some of you suggest? Any help would be great. Thanks.

Captivate.

Don't know much about the g2 but I do currently own a captivate and its a great phone very easy too root and install roms. I would start from there research which one is easier too root and which ones have the best roms and what not.
Never was a big fan of a physical keyboard. so I can tell you that the typing on the captivate is pretty accurate. Also the screen is bigger! Lol but enough about my bias opinion just find out the hacking capabilities of both as well and go from there
But to make a long story short like the guy ahead of me.
Captivate FTW
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If you plan to stick with the stock ROM then get the G2. Otherwise, get the Captivate. With a custom ROM the Galaxy S phones blow all the others away.

Both are great phones, but I think all of the people recommending the Captivate are forgetting that the G2 is sort of 'future-proof' in that it has HSDPA+ built in for T-Mobile's kinda-sorta 4G network. It's really up to you if you think you'd need that.
Another question to ask yourself is do you need a physical keyboard or not. And finally, which phone do you prefer as of right now?

Well I'm not really sure about the physical keyboard, if the touch keyboard thats on the Captivate is good, then I guess I wouldn't really need the physical keyboard. I also remember hearing that it has Swype on it as well, so I dunno if Swype is actually faster than a physical keyboard or not. The 4G connectivity would be good, but I don't have T-Mobile so it doesn't really apply to me all that much

Do you require a keyboard or have a lot to gain from having one? If so, htc Vision is your best bet in the market right now.
Otherwise, save your money because single core processors will be phased out in a matter of months.

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Do you require a keyboard or have a lot to gain from having one? If so, htc Vision is your best bet in the market right now.
Otherwise, save your money because single core processors will be phased out in a matter of months.
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Its funny you say that they are coming out with dual core processors but still using the same battery as single core. So imagine how fast the battery will fade on you. On top of that the price of the phone will almost double. So I give em late 4th quarter 2011 before these phone will actually blow up.
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The G2 is the fastest (other than games... its close tho) with a little overclocking, and has a clearer, smaller but less bright screen. I wish I had that extra .3" sometimes. Physical keyboard is sweet, but I can type near as well with the on screen keyboard on the galaxy s'. They also have a better vibrate-on-keypress. Did I mention that this phone is fast? Stuff just does what you tell it.
Also, I know this is just the general forum but the dual core info... I wouldn't believe much of it

If you plan on using GPS at all, stay away from the Captivate.

well said I forgot all about gps
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shanghei said:
If you plan on using GPS at all, stay away from the Captivate.
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+1 also if u dont want to be wait for official roms get the Vision [i have a vibrant too so just saying]

Tchem said:
Its funny you say that they are coming out with dual core processors but still using the same battery as single core. So imagine how fast the battery will fade on you. On top of that the price of the phone will almost double. So I give em late 4th quarter 2011 before these phone will actually blow up.
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Double the cores doesn't always mean double the price or battery life.(Nor should people expect double the performance) Being a mobile platform, I'm sure one of the major points they worked with is battery life. Different from dual processor, which you power both cpus, both sockets, and everything on each cpu. Where as one chip, you just power one chip. Same thing goes with price. a quad core cpu is considerably less than 2 dual cores. I'm not saying that it will cost as much and use as much power as a single core, but it's not going to be as high as you think.

Phone features in the future?

What features would you guys like to see on phones in the future? .... keep it somewhat realistic not things like time machines and time stopping abilities....
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Better battery life, obviously not unrealistic, but at the moment battery life is pretty shocking. I know it's a smart phone, but I don't want to have to worry about charging during the day to make sure it doesn't run out.

I completely agree also I'm no expert but I'm sure they could make the internal memory bigger, for android anyway I'm not sure what its like on others. Android internal memory is poor
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Better battery life,faster, better/faster speeds over 3/4G and um.... that's all I could think of right now.
Oh, I would love to be able to buy a phone in a different color.

FLAC Vest said:
better/faster speeds over 3/4G
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Or just true 4g speeds. I cant imagine having a need for internet speeds over 100 mbps, even for home internet.
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Battery technology is a big hindrance at the moment. Hopefully we'll see a revolutionary breakthrough some time in the future.
What we need is Moooaaar Powa!

I'm sure smartphone must take the position of laptop and play an important role as terminal in Clouding computing.

I really want to see battery life improve. I wish manufacturers would be prepared to make their devices a couple of mm thicker, so there's room for a bigger battery and antenna; imagine if we no longer had to have intense discussions about signal strength or battery life because our phones were now designed with this in mind.
I'm also hoping that the recent speed increases and dual-core chips will make it possible to build under-clocked dual-cores or even single cores which are quick enough, but save massively on power.
It would be nice if some lower-power screen technology might come along, since the screen is a huge drain on power.

I support the idea of a battery that can last for weeks. Would be great not to worry about that damnbattery running out when I'm at school using camera and WiFi...

The phones should be slimmer and stronger. I would pay more for a nice carbon/magnesium case like I can get on premium laptops. The cheap plastic most manufacturers use really blows.

Once the technology behind the 'paper screen' improves, I would like to see (un)foldable screens that can expand screen space.

Better battery life,faster, better/faster speeds over 3/4G

I hope wireless charging gets better and more widespread.
Improved touchscreens with more multitouch gestures and tactile response would be cool too.
System wide accelerometer gestures. (could be used to change song and all that)
Multiple screens, Better screen tech - SAMOLED+Retina Display?
Fuel cell or higher capacity batteries.
Built in pico projectors.
Anyone see the Mozilla Seabird concept?

i would like to see phones that use solar energy to get charged

I wish they would make their phones a little bit bigger, not so flimsy. Also, improve battery life and for god's sake add more memory! it's cheap these days!

I agree, Battery life!!!

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i would like to see phones that use solar energy to get charged
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How efficient would tthat be though? And on top of that, how durable is the solar charger? And how much would it be?
I would love alternative forms if charging but I can't think if that many scenarios where my phone is in direct sunlight... let alone there long enough to charge.

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How efficient would tthat be though? And on top of that, how durable is the solar charger? And how much would it be?
I would love alternative forms if charging but I can't think if that many scenarios where my phone is in direct sunlight... let alone there long enough to charge.
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I agree solar is probably not the way to go but a different more efficient method would be great
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Solar battery

I'd just like manufacturers to be a bit sensible and not put wi fi antennas where your fingers go, or volume control rockers where you hit them when typing, and batteries that last more than 17 hrs..
Little things like that, oh and if going to the bother to make a fantastic phone (G2) finish the job and put a decent camera and speaker in it.
sometimes its just the details.

Upgrading, and looking for opinions

So as it is obvious i am on the charge right now but have an opportunity to upgrade. My initial thought was to go for the nexus! i mean an aosp experience android 4.0 it makes sense. But then i found another phone i think rivals the nexus. The rezound has a great community following, and multiple 4.0 ports. Some major differences are 1.2 GHZ dual core vs. 1.5 Snap dragon. Screen size(technically speaking) and a few different things like screen resolution and such but i'm wondering what other people thought.

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So as it is obvious i am on the charge right now but have an opportunity to upgrade. My initial thought was to go for the nexus! i mean an aosp experience android 4.0 it makes sense. But then i found another phone i think rivals the nexus. The rezound has a great community following, and multiple 4.0 ports. Some major differences are 1.2 GHZ dual core vs. 1.5 Snap dragon. Screen size(technically speaking) and a few different things like screen resolution and such but i'm wondering what other people thought.
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having a Nexus and having played with a Rezound I would go with the GN, it beats the Rezound in pretty much every category but the screen where both are pretty nice (GN a bit better though)... however they are both solid choices and if you like the size of the Rezound or the Beats or Sense then go with that, I'd try both of them out for a day or two if I was you and not get one based only off of recommendations
if you have any specific questions about the Nexus I'll answer
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I agree that they are both nice phones.
Part of it comes down to the display if you are display whore like me.
Most people probably wouldn't notice or care about pentile, but I personally feel that the pentile annoys me as much or even more than the fact that the Rezound has an LCD display.
I would check into enhancements by Supercurio so see what he has brought to the table for display mods/tweaks. Check into Voodoo Display Tuning.
In any case, don't get one without actually trying them out.
Personally, I'll wait for the GS3. If Verizon gets the GS3 AND doesn't screw it all up, I think it will be worth the wait.
Also, don't forget to look at the LG Spectrum.

If it were me i would go with a maxx. The phone is good enough for me and that battery would last so long. Of course i wouldn't really need a custom kernel on that (i only use one on the charge for ext4 and uv, which i wouldn't need on he razr.
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xdadevnube said:
I agree that they are both nice phones.
Part of it comes down to the display if you are display whore like me.
Most people probably wouldn't notice or care about pentile, but I personally feel that the pentile annoys me as much or even more than the fact that the Rezound has an LCD display.
I would check into enhancements by Supercurio so see what he has brought to the table for display mods/tweaks. Check into Voodoo Display Tuning.
In any case, don't get one without actually trying them out.
Personally, I'll wait for the GS3. If Verizon gets the GS3 AND doesn't screw it all up, I think it will be worth the wait.
Also, don't forget to look at the LG Spectrum.
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LOL LG
no in all seriousness though the Spectrum would be a good deal as a beginning 4G phone or for someone who's not into rooting/roms... the radios are solid, its very snappy, screen is nice and its a nice size the only complaint would be the UI... its very touchwizzy and bogs the phone down occasionally but otherwise its not a bad choice either (oh except for LG's OS upgrade timing as well, like Samsung in that regard but if that doesn't matter than disregard)
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i figure the nexus is probably what i would get a lot of opinions but i just dont know that i am ready to go with the 299 i know very well that which i got it would be rooted and rommed in a few days so whether or not it is sense is of no purpose. i've used both somewhat but its not the same when they aren't mine ya know? Honestly the biggest draw of the nexus is that it is AOSP and will continue to be ya know?

The Spectrum has a fantastic screen, but an awful custom UI, bad battery life, and a mediocre build. The Rezound isn't bad at all (biggest downside is that it's super chunky), and despite the sub-par screen the RAZR Maxx is actually quite nice, but if you're getting a phone now you'd ultimately being doing yourself a disservice getting anything other than the Nexus.
Sure, the phones may all seem at least somewhat competitive right now, but you need to think about the future, especially if you're on a 2-year upgrade cycle like most people. No phone, from any company, will get official updates as quickly -- and more importantly, for as long -- as a Nexus device.
Me, I'm waiting to see what gets announced at MWC at the end of this month, because the quad-core Tegra 3 devices we know are coming up will be way more future-proof than the current crop of dual-cores. The question is just when Verizon will get one.

IMO u should wait for the GS3. Thats what Im doing. I think that nexus, rezound, and maxx all have big downsides IMO that hopefully GS3 wont.
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IMO u should wait for the GS3. Thats what Im doing. I think that nexus, rezound, and maxx all have big downsides IMO that hopefully GS3 wont.
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I'm sure even the SGS3 will have one or a few downsides. No phone is perfect.
That being said, I don't necessarily see the point in waiting for it to come to Verizon considering the SGS2 didn't.
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People keep talking about quad core, I just wonder what are you going to do with quadcore. Dualcore is plenty of power for a phone. 99% of the apps not even support dual core and it will take awhile to get there, the only thing I see with quad core is you're going to pay extra cash for something just make you feel good, but no functional for anything!

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People keep talking about quad core, I just wonder what are you going to do with quadcore. Dualcore is plenty of power for a phone. 99% of the apps not even support dual core and it will take awhile to get there, the only thing I see with quad core is you're going to pay extra cash for something just make you feel good, but no functional for anything!
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something to do with battery life, quad cores run more efficiently... idling on 2 cores for all but the most power hungry apps or something like that
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anoninja118 said:
something to do with battery life, quad cores run more efficiently... idling on 2 cores for all but the most power hungry apps or something like that
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This all speculation, my PC with more core, I need more cooling power! Law of physic more power, more heat. I think they are going to make more capacity(mah) for the same given battery size.

I vote for razr. By far the most polished software experience, stock for stock, and screen was good enough IMO to jump the Samsung ship.

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I vote for razr. By far the most polished software experience, stock for stock, and screen was good enough IMO to jump the Samsung ship.
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OEM UI's on ICS?? OHGODWHY.jpeg
lol really though while I have to say that the razr is nice for those who don't want to root, battery situation, locked bootloader and the possibility of BLUR SANDWICH will steer most others away...
pic related, my face when samsungs touchjizz UI over ICS
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I went from the Charge to the Bionic, then to the Rezound. Two add-a-lines later and ~$650 in ETF's hanging over my head and I bought another Charge - I missed it too much. I was tempted by the Nexus, but the lack of removable storage kills it for me...I want the option of taking more than 30gb of stuff with me.
Don't put too much stock in the idea that a dual-core processor gives you better battery life, or noticeably more speed. Neither the Bionic or the Rezound were faster than the Charge to any real noteworthy degree, and battery life, while marginally better on the Bionic, was still poor overall. The pen-tile screen on the Bionic stunk, and while the Rezound's screen is very smooth from dead center, colors look pale and the viewing angles are terrible. Nothing beats the SAMOLED+ on the Charge. The "Beats Audio" on the Rezound is just a built-in preset EQ curve, easily reproduced on any other phone. Strictly in terms of sound quality with good headphones the Charge is in a different league - no hiss, no whines, cleaner, better, louder sound. Both the Bionic and the Rezound have the high pitched whine/interference, although not as bad on the Rezound.
Right now on Verizon there's no phone i'd rather have...when I took my new one out of the box it was like a huge feeling of relief. I won't be forsaking it again until something clearly, substantially better comes along.

buhohitr said:
This all speculation, my PC with more core, I need more cooling power! Law of physic more power, more heat. I think they are going to make more capacity(mah) for the same given battery size.
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You're assuming that all the cores in a mobile device are activated all the time, which is completely wrong. It's not speculation, it's been measured: Tegra 3 uses almost 60 percent less power than Tegra 2 in general because whenever it's in standby or other low-intensity modes it switches on a fifth low-power companion core and switches off the primary cores. Then, if you do need extra power, it dynamically kicks in the other cores as needed, whether that means activating a single core, two cores, or all four.
And as for the speed difference... even on the fastest dual-core devices, Android still lags every now and then. Try using the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and then the Transformer Prime -- there is a definite difference in speed and animation smoothness using the same OS. Everything is faster on a quad-core device.

Isn't ICS also optimized for multi-core devices? If so, the dual core on GN and quad on Transformer Prime should be much better than say Bionic for example.

I think the gnex is worth it, partly because it will be supported by samsung/google for 18 months. Seeing as most of us are locked into two year contracts, it also eliminates the need to buy a new phone in 6 months when the current new phones arent really supported
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Falcyn said:
You're assuming that all the cores in a mobile device are activated all the time, which is completely wrong. It's not speculation, it's been measured: Tegra 3 uses almost 60 percent less power than Tegra 2 in general because whenever it's in standby or other low-intensity modes it switches on a fifth low-power companion core and switches off the primary cores. Then, if you do need extra power, it dynamically kicks in the other cores as needed, whether that means activating a single core, two cores, or all four.
And as for the speed difference... even on the fastest dual-core devices, Android still lags every now and then. Try using the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and then the Transformer Prime -- there is a definite difference in speed and animation smoothness using the same OS. Everything is faster on a quad-core device.
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Take a look at this article. Basically they said that the power drain is from screen size, ram and LTE4G. Quadcore may only consume a little bit more battery power (but NOT saving power). They definitely need bigger battery just like I predicted. In theory, dual core should save power better than single core (same as your theory, one sleep, one working), but that's not the case. I found that when you use your phone, they all kick in for speed and smoothness whick translated into more power consumption.
http://www.tested.com/news/will-the-quad-core-arm-revolution-suck-your-smartphone-battery-dry/3131/

Spread the good word of our oneS

I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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Roundtableprez said:
I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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What's so amazing about this phone?

louis.b said:
What's so amazing about this phone?
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
Fastest android mobile currently
IMO sense V4
Regarding the first post, developers won't go by "user reviews" on shop sites, they will look into all the hardware detail and kernel source/drivers/software stuff etc. and if they like what they see then they will buy it.

Terminator19 said:
Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
Terminator19 said:
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
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Agreed, and now that they seem to have done something about the metal arc oxidation issues its build quality is great.
Terminator19 said:
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
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Yes, yes and yes, the Beats gimmick aside the regular audio output is of very good quality as GSMArena's measurements show. Camera is a delight to use, although the S3 version has a small buffer lag between shots. Battery life, surprisingly, seems to be very similar between the S3 and S4 models.
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Fastest android mobile currently
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The S4 version yes, the S3 version no.
IMO sense V4
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Yes, Sense 4 is really good, better than TouchWiz although I suspect most people on XDA prefer stock Android if it means faster updates
Personally, I think the One S was a really good phone when it launched, but the change to the S3 processor has changed my view of the model significantly; it is still a good phone for what it is but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.

louis.b said:
What's so amazing about this phone?
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Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.

I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c

kenyw said:
Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
kenyw said:
but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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Completely agree about that with regards to the S3 version.
Regarding the battery and speed, I thought it was the other way round (in real world usage), battery much worse and performance isn't as good but for standard usage like games etc. there isn't a huge difference.
Doesn't help when no one has posted any info. on the battery of the S3 though i.e. screen shots and detailed info..........

jmcdonald58 said:
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.

matt310 said:
^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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Recoveries come from our local friendly developers if your recovery is a mess contact them it is no way htcs fault. I love this phone despite no s-off. And that's okay for me lol we will steal it from the Onex one day lol.
For the new radios and your crackling problem, most unlocked android devices have this issue when you unlock them I have a sidekick 4g on att right now and this on tmob and there is a compareable difference
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app

I absolutely love this device. I had the choice between the one s and the s3 and chose this one and am really pleased. It fits my hands perfectly and outperforms most devices. The battery life is unparalleled. I average 4 to 6 hours on screen time while some friends with s3's only get 2 hours with power saving on. The lack of s off is little annoying but not that big of a deal for me since my hboot is so low. As for the people spreading negative reviews in hopes to "teach HTC a lessons" this is a horrible approach. Operation rolling thunder should be stopped!!
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium

Terminator19 said:
And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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Just wanted to mention that on Tuesday 11/09/2012 i received my nice new htc one s from talktalk.co.uk ( run on vodafone network) and it is a Z560e model (Ville C aka S3) version, personally i am not to bothered but figured worth mention for anyone who maybe intrested in UK

Terminator19 said:
Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.

My One S
My S one is about 5 months old. After years as a Nokia fan-boy I finally gave in and reluctantly jumped ship. So I was presented with a problem: Which phone do I get. I won't be taking up a place in a queue for the new iPhone 5 with the iSheep - as a Ubuntu user getting an android was a no-brainer. I chose the One S because 1/ it wasn't Samsung (my personal prejudice) 2/ the One X was slightly too big for my taste.
I know Nokia missed a very big boat by sticking with Symbian for so long, but on a personal level I was happy because I know them inside out I can mod them easily and enjoyed playing about with them despite the limitations. In fact the limitations made it more of a challenge and more interesting.Eventually the lack of progress Symbian was making, combined with the fact that Nokia jumped in to bed with Micros*#t forced my hand. So to be honest, I waited for T-Mobile to deliver my One S with very little enthusiasm. That's changed. I love my One S.
So as it's my first Android I can't say its any better or worse than a Galaxy III, a WildFire or a Nexus. I do know that I am very happy with it. On the hardware side I am happy about the lovely big screen, the slim casing and the nice finish. I am very happy with the processor speed and flawless screen refresh. Battery life could be better, but I will never be happy with battery life. Software wise, I am happy that there are people out there making ROMs which while flawed are keeping me very busy and making me feel like I have a new phone every week or so. I am happy that I have a JB based ROM while HTC has yet to release the "official" JB for the One S.
Which is all a long winded way of saying I love it.

avetny said:
? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
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Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
matt310 said:
Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!

Terminator19 said:
Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
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Wow! Terminator 1 - troll 0 :good:

Closed Source Project said:
Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.

laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.

pookipsy said:
laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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Biased? lol yeah right I dont even own those phones. And to say that sense 4.0 is smoother than Touchcrap 4.0 and iOS5 is just outright lying. Yes it's smoother than sense 3.0 but it's still laggy and I have been following the One X long enough to know that A LOT OF people complain about how laggy sense 4.0 was.
And FYI people dont ask about HTC not because HTC doesnt advertise enough. As a matter of fact a lot people know about them. They just dont buy them because HTC has the reputation of making buggy phones. And as a former owner of 2 HTC phones I cant say I disagree.

louis.b said:
Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
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You got an S3, didn't you? I'm sorry about that and have been quite out-spoken about HTC's idiotic behavior regarding other countries, but the S4 One S is a great piece of machinery.

I have never had on hands experience with the S3 version so can't comment on it, however, when I have had my S4 one S side by side with the GS 3 (quad) and the 4s, the one S has been quicker/snappier/instant smartphone and the GS 3 appears smoother overall, although this is largely down to the animations and the animation scaling used, when JB arrives on both phones there should be no difference at all then really, in terms of smoothness.
I have found the 4s/4 to be laggy in quite a few places personally and not as silky smooth as what many people make it out to be.
Also, the one X hardware (tegra 3) was very poorly optimized with sense/ICS, when the mobile was first released, it was so laggy and nowhere as instant as the one S (S4), since the last update it has improved somewhat, however, still not as good as the S (S4) and GS 3, with JB it should be much better as the nexus 7 has the exact same hardware and it is smoother and faster than both the GS 3 and S, of course assuming HTC don't **** up with driver optimisation on sense Vxx whatever it will be with JB.
Regarding why people don't get HTC handsets, yes for some reason people seem to think they're an awful company with poor phones, I would have agreed with some of their phones (largely the desire HD, IMO their worst phone), however, most of their phones (especially the one series) are actually very good and out of the people I know who have a HTC android device have been very happy with theirs and not had any problems (a lot of people absolutely love sense, the homescreen and widgets impresses the "average joes" a lot). And it does largely come down to marketing/brand in the end, as in the UK here, the majority of ads that I see on TV, posters on bus stops etc. is for the GS 3, iphone, GS 2, galaxy ACE & Ace 2 (the Ace mobiles are bundled with very good network deals though, the ads aren't actually for the phones themselves) along with a few for the one X and virtually no ads at all for the one S (still have not seen a single ad on TV for the one S), people automatically recognise the GS 3 and iphones where as with the likes of HTC phones people aren't sure about them and automatically think they aren't good since they never heard of them.
It is a shame because HTC did start the "empire" of android with the hero, desire and nexus one, dread to think where android would be now if it weren't for them.