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Galaxy S2 vs. iPhone 4 vs. LG E900 vs. Lag myth

So I made this video to put an end to this nonsense myth about lagging propegated by people who have no idea at all what they're talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPqXwerQZps
As can be seen the S2 is the only device which performs smoothly on all fronts. The menu is smooth, webbrowser is smooth and gaming is smooth.
The iPhone 4 has problems loading taxing sites and clearly does lag in a very annoying way. I can also point to several situations where the iPhone 4 clearly lags in a very annoying way. Didn't have games on there but gaming is good as we all know very well.
WP7 has a smooth menu and everything looks nice. Does lag in the browser but it's not as annoying as the iPhone 4. Altho the main menu is smooth some apps do lag horribly, like the Xbox Live app. Gaming is horrible on this device altho I hear it's better on the Lumia 800.
All devices are Wifi N but the S2 is the only one who achieves good rates. The LG is the phone with the worst download rate and the iPhone 4 comes in second.
I know both youtube and 9gag have mobile sites which work better but I picked these sites off the top of my head as a showcase. There are enough sites out there which do not have a mobile site and are taxing to load.
So in conclusion, S2 Android is the best and doesn't lag, iPhone 4 doesn't lag usually but when it does it is the worst. Also there are several case in which the phone starts lagging so bad that it feels as if the phone has crashed.
WP7 has mediocre lag, the lag is there but workable.
All phones have been hard reset, I was in the process of reinstalling my S2 when the idea occurred to me. This is why the S2 has some apps on it and both the iPhone 4 and LG are stock and fresh.
Discuss...

Why not test the iPhone 4s?

moonmang said:
Why not test the iPhone 4s?
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I don't have one here rightnow but I can say that it's webbrowser is more or less the same.
The only real improvement the 4S has to offer on the lag front is the following. If you have a lots of menu pages (8 pages is best for demonstration but it starts at 5), you go to the end of your menu and then press home. You'll see that on the 4 it clearly starts to lag and on the 4S this doesn't happen.
I wanted to film this too but it would take too much effort to fill the menu with apps right now, maybe later. I think the point has been made and as you can see the iPhone isn't the holy grail of lagfreeness some might have you believe.

Zee, where you at bro? I'm waiting for you to debunk this guys whole arguement, because anything you don't experience, absolutely can't be possible. Right?
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slapshot30 said:
Zee, where you at bro? I'm waiting for you to debunk this guys whole arguement, because anything you don't experience, absolutely can't be possible. Right?
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I don't know who this Zee is but I'd welcome his input. I made this thread to open up discussion not to start a flame war. The video it self isn't perfect and open for criticism but I didn't make it to be perfect. I made it just to show there is lag in Apple.

GIR said:
I don't know who this Zee is but I'd welcome his input. I made this thread to open up discussion not to start a flame war. The video it self isn't perfect and open for criticism but I didn't make it to be perfect. I made it just to show there is lag in Apple.
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You welcome Zee's output but you don't want to start a flame war?You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Anyway,talking about what 1gb of RAM can be used for...

I did a vid last night to show lag free ui using screencast but not uploaded it anywhere yet, even capturing video and superimposing a visual pointer to show where and when touches happened on screen in realtime I was able to swipe through screens and folders etc with no lag.
In fact it was so quick you barely see the pointer on screen where I touched screen to initiate action but still people say it lags.
Only lag I notice is opening or installing apps on stock gb rom.
I saw zee mentioned, surprised he hasn't commented yet as usually android lag is something he comments on. He has wp7 and android and says that android has lots of lag where wp7 is flawlessly smooth. Be interesting to see his take as he has used all phone systems whereas I haven't so can only speak from experience of android but to me the ui doesn't lag.
Dave
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Don't forget S II has Dual-Core CPU and the others has Single-core.

mathburn said:
Don't forget S II has Dual-Core CPU and the others has Single-core.
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WP does not even support dual core cpu yet.

When people says that iphone doesn't lag they mostly mean that it has 60fps buttersmooth interface without any dropped frames most of the time (In my opinion incorrect use of the word lag though).
It is physically impossible to show such smoothness on a 30fps hard compressed youtube video that isn't captured in sync with phone screen refresh rate.
I find my SGS2 pretty smooth most of the time, so I'm not defending iPhone (in fact I dislilke iPhone...), but your video is not enough to visualize the smoothness of the phones.

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Don't forget S II has Dual-Core CPU and the others has Single-core.
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Iphone 4S has dual core as well.
Dave
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The test isn't perfect but it's fine i guess. Honestly tho the comparison is a bit ubalanced imho: you compared the fastest android device on the market (i know how good it is, i owned one for 5 months) with possibly one of the slowest and oldest WP7 devices, and ofc the iPhone4 is as well a piece of history nowadays. To be fair you should have compared similar hardware: the LG phone you have there has the same hardware (cpu+gpu) as the HTC Desire, but compared to it the Desire feels like a sluggish piece of **** (not talking out of my ass, i've been using one for over a year), even if you tweak it and OC it like hell. Anyway there's no denying that right now even with the latest hardware WP7 sucks badly in terms of gaming, and the few games we have are insanely overpriced. Android has good hardware and good games, and many free ones look way batter than most "top" WP7 games; not that i really care tho, i'm not a heavy gamer and therefore this doesn't bother me much. Anyway in terms of usability WP7 is a pretty sweet spot between Android and iOS imho: it's, refreshing and new, pleasant to use out of the box and you don't have to spend 600€ nor hack the phone in order to have a smooth and consistent experience.
To each their own i guess...

vnvman said:
The test isn't perfect but it's fine i guess. Honestly tho the comparison is a bit ubalanced imho: you compared the fastest android device on the market (i know how good it is, i owned one for 5 months) with possibly one of the slowest and oldest WP7 devices, and ofc the iPhone4 is as well a piece of history nowadays. To be fair you should have compared similar hardware: the LG phone you have there has the same hardware (cpu+gpu) as the HTC Desire, but compared to it the Desire feels like a sluggish piece of **** (not talking out of my ass, i've been using one for over a year), even if you tweak it and OC it like hell. Anyway there's no denying that right now even with the latest hardware WP7 sucks badly in terms of gaming, and the few games we have are insanely overpriced. Android has good hardware and good games, and many free ones look way batter than most "top" WP7 games; not that i really care tho, i'm not a heavy gamer and therefore this doesn't bother me much. Anyway in terms of usability WP7 is a pretty sweet spot between Android and iOS imho: it's, refreshing and new, pleasant to use out of the box and you don't have to spend 600€ nor hack the phone in order to have a smooth and consistent experience.
To each their own i guess...
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He may have compared the fastest android phone on the market, but the simple fact of the matter is that the GSII has outsold any other android device by far (over 15 million). I still believe more people have an Iphone 4 and not a 4s, and is there a such thing as a popular WP7 device? So either way he is comparing the top sellers of each OS.

lowandbehold said:
He may have compared the fastest android phone on the market, but the simple fact of the matter is that the GSII has outsold any other android device by far (over 15 million). I still believe more people have an Iphone 4 and not a 4s, and is there a such thing as a popular WP7 device? So either way he is comparing the top sellers of each OS.
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Sure but is this little LG phone the top selling WP7 device? I hope not.
I still think that the simple fact that most people have a specific phone doesn't make it the best one. If it was so then the Galaxy 5 aka i5500 would be an amazing phone compared to the Titan, but last time i checked it was a cheap low end Android and sucked balls. Ok sorry, just kidding.
Anyway call me weird, but i still think that a fair comparison is the one between devices with at least comparable specs (or at least price tags), rather than the one between those with comparable sold units. I know there isn't such a thing as a dual-core WP7 device, but there's quite a big difference between a Snapdragon [email protected] and a Snapdragon [email protected], believe me.

vnvman said:
Sure but is this little LG phone the top selling WP7 device? I hope not.
I still think that the simple fact that most people have a specific phone doesn't make it the best one. If it was so then the Galaxy 5 aka i5500 would be an amazing phone compared to the Titan, but last time i checked it was a cheap low end Android and sucked balls. Ok sorry, just kidding.
Anyway call me weird, but i still think that a fair comparison is the one between devices with at least comparable specs (or at least price tags), rather than the one between those with comparable sold units. I know there isn't such a thing as a dual-core WP7 device, but there's quite a big difference between a Snapdragon [email protected] and a Snapdragon [email protected], believe me.
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So to even out the comparison he should be using and android device that is a year and a half old?

I'm actually surprised at the lack of attention this thread is getting, seeing as there have been quite extensive (and usually unproductive) discussions on this subject I was expecting people to flock to this thread.
The iPhone 4 / 4S is irrelevant IMO. The iPhone 4S has only been released recently and isn't mainstream yet. Past discussions have always concerned the 4 for one and the 4S does nothing to solve the issues I've demonstrated.
As for the question: "Why these phones", these are the ones I had in the shop at the time. I'll see if I can update or add when I have other devices.
As for my credentials, I own several repair shops (yes actual physical shops not somebody who works at home). I pride myself in being able to repair just about any phone with any issue unless it has water damage. I have most popular phones in stock and I also deal in used phones. Thus I have easy access to all the phones and I also get to play with all of them.

GIR said:
I'm actually surprised at the lack of attention this thread is getting, seeing as there have been quite extensive (and usually unproductive) discussions on this subject I was expecting people to flock to this thread.
The iPhone 4 / 4S is irrelevant IMO. The iPhone 4S has only been released recently and isn't mainstream yet. Past discussions have always concerned the 4 for one and the 4S does nothing to solve the issues I've demonstrated.
As for the question: "Why these phones", these are the ones I had in the shop at the time. I'll see if I can update or add when I have other devices.
As for my credentials, I own several repair shops (yes actual physical shops not somebody who works at home). I pride myself in being able to repair just about any phone with any issue unless it has water damage. I have most popular phones in stock and I also deal in used phones. Thus I have easy access to all the phones and I also get to play with all of them.
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Oh it will get attention, trust me...the trolls are still asleep!

lowandbehold said:
So to even out the comparison he should be using and android device that is a year and a half old?
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Not really, picking a "high end" one like the Titan or the Lumia should be fair enough imo. I have this Omnia W here which should behave fine enough (despite being a mid range phone it still packs the latest gen WP7 SOC) but unfortunately I sold my GS2 a couple weeks ago because I was low on cash, so I can't make a decent comparison myself.

vnvman said:
Not really, picking a "high end" one like the Titan or the Lumia should be fair enough imo. I have this Omnia W here which should behave fine enough (despite being a mid range phone it still packs the latest gen WP7 SOC) but unfortunately I sold my GS2 a couple weeks ago because I was low on cash, so I can't make a decent comparison myself.
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I've had a Lumia 800 here and to be honest it doesn't matter that much. Games are still jerky, the XBox Live app is the same and the browser is the same. When it comes to specs most WP7 devices aren't that much different from one and other. The Lumia 800 has better specs but that bit extra doesn't really make a big difference in the end.

GIR said:
I've had a Lumia 800 here and to be honest it doesn't matter that much. Games are still jerky, the XBox Live app is the same and the browser is the same. When it comes to specs most WP7 devices aren't that much different from one and other. The Lumia 800 has better specs but that bit extra doesn't really make a big difference in the end.
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Yeah I wasn't talking about games, we all know they suck on WP7. But as far as regular usage is concerned my Omnia W feels a lot snappier compared to the Omnia 7 I've had for a few months. Ofc there's no night and day difference, but they are different to be honest.

With custom ROM One X better than S III?

I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.

azsamsancho said:
I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.
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Within two months, you will get bored of the touchwiz ui. But one x has sense and if you like it, with a little modifications, and with custom roms, you will never get bored of your phone
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I'm kind of in the same boat. I haven't held the S3 yet so I don't know how it looks/feels in the hand. The OneX feels solid and comfortable to me. I think the OneX with a Sense-less ICS ROM would be super fast and more enjoyable. I'm leaning that way with my decision.
My HTC Sensation with Virtuous Inquisition ROM has become a much better phone
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azsamsancho said:
I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.
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Go for the S3. Bigger development, cm9 from people who actually build from source themselves and i would trust my life in their hands so to speak. Codeworkx and Xplowild could not get any better and really wished they supported the One X but that is not going to happen, more AOSP and AOKP roms for the S3 and you probably get the best kernel developer i know and that Gokhanmoral as well...And the list goes on. One x might be better looking but you have so much more going for the S3 which is supercurio for one releasing his app for it specially with the better sound chip for it and well i can go on..
One X is a great phone with great potential..but with all the replacements i had and with their poor service and Quality Control have left a bad taste in my mouth and will never go for HTC again...Do not get me wrong development for this phone is only just getting started..But if you are a samsung boy and loved the development on the s2 then s3 is the place to be for you..just wished i waited a bit longer
But seriously my best advice to you..Wait a few more weeks. Watch videos and watch comparisons...And then make a judgement on yourself on what you need the phone for. Sense is ten times better than TW no doubt. But like i said take your time and do your research..And if you do go for the One X make sure you get a phone which is build like a gold phone..Make sure it is perfect and solid..Then you will not regret it

Real world speed is the same. Both have minor flaws and particular strengths. For me, the s3 is less aestheticaly pleasing (read:yuk) and the screen has a pink hue on greys, I can't stand touch wiz and I dislike the unrealistic colours on amoled screens.

farnsbarns said:
Real world speed is the same. Both have minor flaws and particular strengths. For me, the s3 is less aestheticaly pleasing (read:yuk) and the screen has a pink hue on greys, I can't stand touch wiz and I dislike the unrealistic colours on amoled screens.
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I agree I had a go on the one x saw sense and the shell and was like I want it! Glad I did as I dislike the look of the s3 not that it is ugly or anything hox just appeals to me more.
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I say its better even with Stock Rom

The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..

azsamsancho said:
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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Then get the one x. I'm very happy with mine no problems.
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The HOX looks far better, the bluey coloured SIII looks very cheap, and to me the proportions look wrong on the front - weird angle curves, and too much bezel at top and bottom.
AMOLED provides less than realistic colours, if its anything like the SII and youre used to a properly calibrated TV/PC Monitor you'll laugh.
Having had a pentile display phone before the One X (Droid 3) no matter what the PPI youre going to notice the Pentile matrix on font and icon edges if you have the screen relatively close to your face, like when you're reading it in bed or something. Minor niggle but it annoyed me. Reading on the One X is like reading a magazine, it looks printed on.
The only positive for me is the bigger battery, but in real world usage i.e. Web Browsing itll only offer you about 40 mins more according to GSM Arena due to the high draw of the AMOLED display on white. Video life is about 4 hours longer, though. Saying that, if you have time to watch a video you'd be in a situation where you could use HTC's small battery bank to see you through it on the one x and have battery left to play with on a flight or long outing (should have a car charger so incar use wouldn't be an issue).
Regarding the above, GSMArena's battery life tests are very unscientific. The One X's display is among the brightest, and far brighter than the SII (double brightness nearly) so if the SIII is the same, the battery life at similar brightness to the One X's default levels would be negligable in texting/browsing/everyday use, again, bar video playback.
There is also the element of standing from the crowd a little - the One X is in my opinion (and many reviewers) the best looking phone to date - It matters to me to enjoy looking at something I use so often, so it helps.
Custom ROMS will come as well, its a major device with global variants so CM9 support will come I'd assume.
As far as build goes, I have sent one back but only because I'm very picky and the screen gap on the left was a tiny bit too much for my liking but I'm pretty sure 75% of the people on the replacement threads have got OCD with the number of replacements theyre having, or they use their phones punishingly. I didnt have flicker after the latest OTA either. The flex is the major issue regarding build, but my Dad's iPhone has the same thing if you press on the edges of the screens, every phone has it.
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azsamsancho said:
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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Im a fairly heavy user and the battery is great for me.
Streaming radio/and mp3 is all done with the companion core for example and with screen off the battery graph is basically flat even whilst streaming over HSPA for a good while.
I can get 4/4hr30 web browsing and if you think about it, you don't need any more than that - with any phone nowadays youre looking at an overnight charge really so it makes no odds whether that number is a bit less or a bit more.
The browser redraw is instantaneous, and looks good - the text fades and fades back as an effect rather than jerking all the text round like opera - you dont notice the time it takes.
Multitasking Fix This may be of great use - it was to me on my Droid 3 and I noticed weird settings posted on here in HTC's default Build.prop that explain IMO the memory Issues people are perceiving.
Multitasking can easily be fixed in build prop. Some of the default HTC settings baffle me. Or use RomToolbox by JRummy
Ive not rooted yet but on my D3 (512mb ram) I used dirty ratio 70% (HOX default is 0%....!) Dirty background 90% (Hox default is 30%) and vfs cache pressure 10. Hox default is 100. This makes android flush the cache less often, saving battery and eliminating stutter, keeps apps in background ram leaving you where you left off and doesn't negatively impact on battery life or degrade performance over time. I've no idea why the HOX's default settings are so aggressive - unless they thought users might get an errant app, leave it running and complain when they dont know why the battery is draining... kill OOM allocating task was also a yes.
On my Droid 3 with the above settings, I could infinitely multitask (VM Heap of 48mb - but on HOX you could easily double that for more tabs in browser etc) and my battery gained a perceived time of about an hour at least - maybe more, due to the apps always remaining open and CPU time not having to be used reopening them and redrawing the past state they were in because theyve been pushed out of RAM.
I researched the above for ages when I had my D3 (even with 512 ram Moto's settings were way less aggressive than HTC's are at default) and made sure they wouldn't cause lag over time, or loss of performance over time - as well as providing optimal battery life.
Finally!
If you're planning on keeping the phone for some time (I can't see much that can improve on this, heck I wouldnt have got rid of my D3 had i not bricked it!) HTC are very good with software updates, the best around on unbranded devices really. They've just listed devices to recieve ICS - and those included some devices that were 18 Months old with a single core processor. This would suggest to me the One X will not only get Jelly Bean, but probably the next iteration (Released end of summer/fall 2013 most likely), should the hardware requirements not change massively (although 1gb RAM and Quad Core looks pretty safe for 18 months IMO).

azsamsancho said:
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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I myself am coming from a galaxy s. Not sure how much the amoled screen is worse than the s2 on the s1 in comparison. I do know,however, that this super LCD2 screen on my htc one x is a thing that's going to be difficult to leave should I ever have to decide between this phone or a super amoled phone in the future.
Browsing-wise: I think we are all going to end up using google chrome in the long run. With the updates it gets, i believe it's sooner or later going to be the browser everyone's going to replace their original browser with.
I personally use google chrome browser on my phone myself. It's much faster than other IMO. Especially loading time is amazing and super smooth.
Battery is debatable. Personally, I wish i could squeeze an hour more hour out of my phone. On a full use I easily hit the 3 hours mark screen on time(3h 10m~). Probably just like most One X owners. Depending on your phone usage though, it's safe to say that the battery life on the HTC One X on standy by is godlike Seen people go for 4 days.
The highest i have reached was 3 hours 31 minutes. I think i could have even exceeded that by now but i just don't bother anymore and plug the phone in before it depletes.
It gets me through a day with ease plus i don't know what htc is up to. As far as I know this phone still needs optimization(take what i say with a grain of salt on this part). As I have no idea if the battery is going to improve in future or not. Just my gut feeling tells me it is, but a gut feeling is just that, a gut feeling. I wish HTC would at least communicate with us users more. Really kind of disappointing on their part.
Oh well, this is the insight i'm capable of giving.
p.s: i'm not one of those users who had to send his phone in for multiple replacements. So yeah, i can understand the users who do suggest the S3 for alone that reason. Because we all just want a phone that functions and don't want to constantly have it replaced just to replace it again.
Good day!

Any possible enhancements from ROMs or Kernels for the HOX will also come out for the S3 so you're best looking at them stock vs stock and decide that way IMO.

mardon85 said:
Any possible enhancements from ROMs or Kernels for the HOX will also come out for the S3 so you're best looking at them stock vs stock and decide that way IMO.
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Yeah! This is actually true as well. Considering the fact that SG3 has got more support. Or at least that's what I always read and i don't doubt it. Probably a customized rom for the gs3 will be running better than the one x's.

Other negatives for the HOX include quality control with the screen flex and squeeky noises at least thats what I get!
With s-on am currently locked down so am having to wait for the network provider to bring about all the fixes in the updates unless I use custom roms but then I can't change the radio etc due to s-on..... Would be great if the phone was cracked in that sense.
Also the soundchip is not that great, could be better.
Battery is bad for me due to being on older firmware so screen on time is about 2hrs and the battery is dead.....
Currently sent mine back to htc due to hardware issues.....

I would wait to see the SIII however i cant't see samsung moving away from using inferior plastic for the shell. This spoils everything.
Also, the cool software will be ported shortly therefore I can't see a reason for choosing the SIII over the HOX. It's all about feeling in the hand........

Sense is very beautiful! And i like the style of htc phones look like

I think i need to wait till S III is available near me and check it out how it feels. reviewers say it feels better than the HOX due to the curved edges...

Its a matter of choice. Both HTC and samsung stock UIs are horrible in my eyes. The main differentiating factor is the more powerful CPU in the galaxy s3, expandable memory and removable/better battery. Its downsides are the pentile display and cheap look.
Both will come with many custom ROMS so flashing a custom rom holds no advantage for the one X

If your getting the HTC ONE X over the Galaxy S3 get ready for some poor battery life

Don't know what you guys expect with battery life on the one x to be honest, I love my HOX , I can run it with several phone calls and texts, bit of browsing on here, read books daily and usually get a couple days out of the battery, yes, if you hammer it with games like riptide, then be prepared for it to eat battery, but I imagine that will be no different on any quad core phone
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Should I buy the HTC ONE S ?

Hi.
I need your help. I'm confused about that device because I read about his problems (For example: THE Sensitive button).
And about his poor battery life which can't survive for one full day..
And that I can get only 10GB of RAM, so I can't put much apps/movies/music/photos.
And I hope that it doesn't get too hot in heavy / easy use.
But I still like this model.
I'm wondering if I should buy this model or to buy Galaxy s2 / something else.
(I don't want big screen - 4.3 is enough for me P: )
- Do you recommend me to buy it or to buy something else?
- Please tell me everything you know about this model - the good and the bad
It's really important for me.

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LalyGirl said:
Hi.
I need your help. I'm confused about that device because I read about his problems (For example: THE Sensitive button).
And about his poor battery life which can't survive for one full day..
And that I can get only 10GB of RAM, so I can't put much apps/movies/music/photos.
And I hope that it doesn't get too hot in heavy / easy use.
But I still like this model.
I'm wondering if I should buy this model or to buy Galaxy s2 / something else.
(I don't want big screen - 4.3 is enough for me P: )
- Do you recommend me to buy it or to buy something else?
- Please tell me everything you know about this model - the good and the bad
It's really important for me.
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Battery life - User dependant. Also other factors can impact this such as signal strength, type of data used, screen brightness. Looking at the battery stats thread it seems fine, better than my HOX and that's saying something.
10GB of user space available. 4GB for system & 2GB for apps. Plenty for apps. You have 10gb available to you for music, movies, photos etc. For some this is enough for others not so much. But with the ability to sync items to cloud storage for most it shouldn't be an issue.
Heat - Can't comment, but from various reading it seems cooler than other devices.
Not got the device but comparing to let's say the SGS2 this seems to have a higher resolution screen despite having a pentile screen.
Audio - Read it has one of the cleanest outputs on a mobile device, not heard it personally but it should be fine.
CPU - The S4 is one of the best dual cores around, so much there is a shortage and pretty soon they will switch to the S3. So grab the S4 version whilst you still can. It's plenty fast and outbenches some of the quads out there.
Sense - HTC's overlay, you'll love it or hate it. I love it. Has good contact management, lovely widgets, good for social networking, and such but can be a memory hog.
Camera - HTC has done a good job on the camera front. Like my HOX I like the pictures that it takes and the burst mode is a blessing. The software is also good and easy to use.
LED - This has a notification light, albeit 2 colours only compared to some other devices but at least it has one.
To sum it up it's a good mid range device. And should serve you well. Not having the device myself I'm only giving you my thoughts from reading reviews and taking some parts of my HOX.

nikzDHD said:
Battery life - User dependant. Also other factors can impact this such as signal strength, type of data used, screen brightness. Looking at the battery stats thread it seems fine, better than my HOX and that's saying something.
10GB of user space available. 4GB for system & 2GB for apps. Plenty for apps. You have 10gb available to you for music, movies, photos etc. For some this is enough for others not so much. But with the ability to sync items to cloud storage for most it shouldn't be an issue.
Heat - Can't comment, but from various reading it seems cooler than other devices.
Not got the device but comparing to let's say the SGS2 this seems to have a higher resolution screen despite having a pentile screen.
Audio - Read it has one of the cleanest outputs on a mobile device, not heard it personally but it should be fine.
CPU - The S4 is one of the best dual cores around, so much there is a shortage and pretty soon they will switch to the S3. So grab the S4 version whilst you still can. It's plenty fast and outbenches some of the quads out there.
Sense - HTC's overlay, you'll love it or hate it. I love it. Has good contact management, lovely widgets, good for social networking, and such but can be a memory hog.
Camera - HTC has done a good job on the camera front. Like my HOX I like the pictures that it takes and the burst mode is a blessing. The software is also good and easy to use.
LED - This has a notification light, albeit 2 colours only compared to some other devices but at least it has one.
To sum it up it's a good mid range device. And should serve you well. Not having the device myself I'm only giving you my thoughts from reading reviews and taking some parts of my HOX.
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I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.

LalyGirl said:
I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.
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I'd say think about longer term, it's an older device. The One S is the newer device and I'd be thinking about Jelly Bean the next android version. One S being newer would more likely be quicker to get it than the XE. It'll have more support from HTC.
Looking at the specs of both phones:
HOS is faster,
HOS reportedly has better battery life,
HOS has better screen in regards to viewing angles and sunlight compared to the first generation SLCD, again this could be subjective,
HOS is thinner and ligther,
HOS has the better camera,
HOS has native Sense 4 support,
HOS has 1gb of RAM compared to XEs 768MB,
You'll enjoy either but if you can I'd opt for the HOS if storage space isn't that important to you.

LalyGirl said:
I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.
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I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.

Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.

nikzDHD said:
I'd say think about longer term, it's an older device. The One S is the newer device and I'd be thinking about Jelly Bean the next android version. One S being newer would more likely be quicker to get it than the XE. It'll have more support from HTC.
Looking at the specs of both phones:
HOS is faster,
HOS reportedly has better battery life,
HOS has better screen in regards to viewing angles and sunlight compared to the first generation SLCD, again this could be subjective,
HOS is thinner and ligther,
HOS has the better camera,
HOS has native Sense 4 support,
HOS has 1gb of RAM compared to XEs 768MB,
You'll enjoy either but if you can I'd opt for the HOS if storage space isn't that important to you.
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Ok so I will stay with the one s.
And how is the speaker of the hos/hox ?
Nick L said:
I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.
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THANK U! and i don't understand you, which one is better - 1.7 GHz or 1.5GHz ?
Terminator19 said:
Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.
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So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?

LalyGirl said:
Ok so I will stay with the one s.
And how is the speaker of the hos/hox ?
THANK U! and i don't understand you, which one is better - 1.7 GHz or 1.5GHz ?
So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?
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Speaker for the HOX is fine, not as loud as say the SGS3 but it's consistent where as the SGS3 can be distorted on higher volumes. I prefer the ringtone sounds out of the HOX than SGS3.

Nick L said:
I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.
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Terminator19 said:
Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.
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nikzDHD said:
Speaker for the HOX is fine, not as loud as say the SGS3 but it's consistent where as the SGS3 can be distorted on higher volumes. I prefer the ringtone sounds out of the HOX than SGS3.
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Ok and when you use your smartphone as a cellphone (Make a call to someone), so how does the person on the other side hear you? Clean? Horrible ? Loud?

LalyGirl said:
So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?
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Yup, I love it!
Thanks
Speaker is great, better than the GS 2 all round.
Here is what GSMarena had to say about the audio:
The cleanest audio output we have seen
The HTC One S performance in our audio quality test came as a really pleasant surprise to us. It appears that the Beats influence hasn't been limited to a single equalizer preset this time as the smartphone delivers the cleanest output we have seen from any device so far.
When connected to an active external amplifier, the HTC One S audio is simply flawless - volume levels are a little above average and it got excellent scores on every part of our test.
What's most impressive though is the One S retains virtually the same performance when you plug in a pair of headphones. The stereo crosstalk takes the tiniest dip of any smartphone we've seen so far, while the rest of the readings are either totally unaffected or worsen by an undetectable amount. Volume levels remain the same too, so it's arguably the most impressive overall performance to date.
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LalyGirl said:
Ok and when you use your smartphone as a cellphone (Make a call to someone), so how does the person on the other side hear you? Clean? Horrible ? Loud?
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Very good! Call quality is great for me.
Loud (can adjust the volume) and clean.
You have dual mics, so any background noise is blocked out Obviously extreme noise like cars racing right beside you and loud music might not be completely blocked out and besides you won't be able to make the other person out anyway

Terminator19 said:
Yup, I love it!
Thanks
Speaker is great, better than the GS 2 all round.
Here is what GSMarena had to say about the audio:
Very good! Call quality is great for me.
Loud (can adjust the volume) and clean.
You have dual mics, so any background noise is blocked out Obviously extreme noise like cars racing right beside you and loud music might not be completely blocked out and besides you won't be able to make the other person out anyway
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So far, I see that people prefer HTS ONE S
That's nice, and now I really want it XDDDDD

I've just upgraded to this phone from the Desire S. I was thinking about getting the One X or the S3 too but I want a high end mobile phone not a mini tablet. This phone is amazing coming from a rooted desire S, its so fast and smooth I don't plan on rooting it.
My advise is to simply get this phone.

pumpernickel77 said:
I've just upgraded to this phone from the Desire S. I was thinking about getting the One X or the S3 too but I want a high end mobile phone not a mini tablet. This phone is amazing coming from a rooted desire S, its so fast and smooth I don't plan on rooting it.
My advise is to simply get this phone.
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Ok, I think I'll buy it

Jesus christ, how old are you?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA

iArtisan said:
Jesus christ, how old are you?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA
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Are you asking me or someone else?

1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.

wilcoholic said:
1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.
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OK, So do you recommend me to buy it ??
Or should I buy the sony xperia s ??

wilcoholic said:
1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.
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Once again, all of that is in YOUR opinion and from your usage only as well, plenty of people including me have had the exact opposite to you. Just because you experience problems doesn't mean that every one else will....
1. Is that on screen time your talking about? If so that is very good! (depending on usage and screen brightness) No other android phone gets anywhere near that unless the screens are set to like 0% and airplane mode enabled for a bit. Just look at my review and you will see the usage that I am getting from a single charge, now go and find me an android phone on stock ROM with a stock battery that can beat that (apart from the motorola razzr for obvious reasons). The iphone 4/4s also seem to have a problem with battery life for quite a few people, heck apple have even released a number of updates iirc to try and fix the battery drain
Plus don't forget that the iphone 4/4s doesn't have the same amount to do as an android phone.
2. The MAO issue is not a "hardware" problem, but a design fault.... Also I have had my phone since release day and still have no signs of chipping anywhere apart from inside the USB port plus HTC have addressed this now as they have got a design, which has a bevelled USB and less sharper edges. Well you were extremely lucky with your 4s then as due to the build of it and being mostly glass, the screen is almost always guaranteed to shatter when dropped......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
It all depends on where abouts the ground impacts the mobile, you could be lucky or not so lucky with any device. If you want to be safe than sorry then a case is a necessary item for all mobiles, even the GS 2. Some devices are just more durable than others.
I have had no problems with dust getting under my screen, had my mobile since April, yes dust does gather in the front camera part, however, a quick blow and wipe with a pencil in a cloth sorts that problem out.
Emmmm what? The volume is amplified a wee bit when it is placed on the desk due to that reason, you can raise the volume as well you know or use a louder ring tone, you must be pretty deaf if you can't hear your mobile ringing......
3. The community isn't great, but it is starting to pick up now especially since the kernel source was posted, there are a few good ROMs from what I have read such as trickdroid and leedroid. Sense is crap in your opinion, many people including me love it and I for one won't be changing to a stock ICS ROM as I don't want to loose the features of sense, which IMO are better than the alternatives. The gallery, dialer, calendar, clock app are superb and not to mention the sense camera along with all the features, which you won't find on any other mobile or stock ICS ROM. Of course the galaxy nexus is going to have a damn good developing community, it's only the official/stock android phone that all the developers use to develop apps for and was the first phone to have a 720P display. The developing community here will never be as good as the the 1X or GS 3 community as they are the "flagship" devices and the phones that everyone will go for just for because of that "term"
Also the tegra chipset is apparently proving to be hard to work with for the developers with the 1X due to nvidia lack of support.
What are these bugs you speak off? I haven't had any problems with mine, super stable, super quick and smooth, multi-tasking is fine as I have disabled a lot of sense stuff and apps that I don't need and am using apex etc. instead.
If you look at my other post addressing issues you will see that I don't have the 3G/H bug, along with many other people.
The iphone is well known to have signal issues as well, not remember the 4 or 4s release where people were complaining about terrible signal, and apple said essentially "you're holding the phone the wrong way" and had to give out free bumper cases to solve the issue as it was a problem with the new antenna that they were using......
4. There is no problem with the screen, sure it ain't 720P and doesn't use RGB matrix, but it is perfectly good and better than most other mobiles screens apart from the ones you mentioned along with a couple of SE mobiles. The screen is nice and sharp still, the only areas I notice the pentile matrix is with white text on black backgrounds and some icons and even still I have to put my eyes right up to the screen. Plus the reason HTC went with with the pentile version is because the battery life is better with it than the RGB version (same reason Samsung went with pentile on the GS 3 instead of RGB). What kind of trouble have you run into with all these apps that you speak of because of the screen? What on earth are you talking about again??? Youtube videos will look crap no matter what settings you put them on??? The youtube videos look great.
Seriously, it sounds to me like you have a faulty one s if that is truly what you are experiencing.......
And after all that you still think the 1S is the best android device there is

LalyGirl said:
OK, So do you recommend me to buy it ??
Or should I buy the sony xperia s ??
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Just buy it. It's a fine phone. These have been snapped up by many in the UK past few days due to a cheap contract deal so many more HOS users in the pipeline.
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T Mobile - One S over GS3 Help me guys!

I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!

1. No
2. 2 days for me
3. Yes
4. No
5. Yes, never tried it
6. Never tried it

1. No, there is about 250MB free on stock from what I remember. The larger issue is HTC's changes to multitasking. I question whether the 1GB of RAM would be enough 2 years from now though.
2. Easily 1 full day of moderate usage.
3. Yes
4. No, not really. It seems to have better coverage than some of the other phones you can buy from TMO. I dropped a call while using WiFi calling (the whole network connection dropped out), but I don't think it is a phone issue. I think TMO needs to work on their WiFi calling software.
5. Yes, 2 or 3 of them... sigh
6. idk

rakeshchn said:
I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all.

KillaHurtz said:
The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all.
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The front facing camera is TERRIBLE... but overall I think the One S is pretty awesome. Wish it had 2GB of ram though... but I'm happy with it.

WCCobra said:
The front facing camera is TERRIBLE... but overall I think the One S is pretty awesome. Wish it had 2GB of ram though... but I'm happy with it.
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I had it for all of 2 weeks, couldn't hack the super low storage space, non removable battery, pentile screen......and that god awful VGA. What a joke. Processor is top notch and the back is sexy, but over all it seems like Sensation 3.0 (2.0 was the Amaze fyi). After having 4.5" of samoled plus expandable storage and removable battery I immediately went back to Sammy. Got myself a Note and haven't regretted it. The GS3 is my next phone for sure when the price gouging goes down.

KillaHurtz said:
I had it for all of 2 weeks, couldn't hack the super low storage space, non removable battery, pentile screen......and that god awful VGA. What a joke. Processor is top notch and the back is sexy, but over all it seems like Sensation 3.0 (2.0 was the Amaze fyi). After having 4.5" of samoled plus expandable storage and removable battery I immediately went back to Sammy. Got myself a Note and haven't regretted it. The GS3 is my next phone for sure when the price gouging goes down.
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Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27052484&postcount=6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
Pointing out the VGA as a weakness means nothing at all.

Good for you KillaHurtz, enjoy your note and your new GS 3 when you get it and have lots of fun with the superior front camera, most important feature right there!
Us HTC one S owners will enjoy our superior processor (for performance per core, better power efficiency and far less heat produced), superior build and perceived quality, not to mention looks and design.......... superior android skin, superior main camera for photos and features in the camera and gallery etc. and better battery life etc.
In anandtechs review of the USA version of the GS 3, which has the S4, the one S and the XL whips its ass in the majority of benchmarks!
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Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
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haha
Anyway, moving on:
rakeshchn said:
guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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1. I have disabled a ton of apps, which are not necessary and have no problems with multi-tasking, however, when switching from a game or some demanding app back to the browser, tabs do reload
2. There are plenty of threads on battery life here and plenty of screenshots of my usage for my review of the 1S (link in sig) and throughout that thread, to sum it up, amazing the best there is
3. Very well, GPS locks on very quick for me (UK, N.I.), never properly used navigation but it does seem to work fine when I have quickly tried it out, if you aren't satisfied you can get tom tom or some other navigation app
4. As shown in that post above of mine linked by big_den, none whatsoever
5. Can't comment on t-mobile version but the international version we have a FM radio and it only works when headphones are plugged in
6. You can see my mini review of a standard generic MHL adapter below. It appears though that the refresh rate is a bug, as it only has a 24Hz refresh rate, however, a guy here modded a kernel so that the resolution is dropped to 720P and 60Hz refresh rate iirc.
Basically you go for the GS 3 if you want this stuff:
- better and bigger screen
- more storage
- NFC
- better community for custom ROMs etc.
- much better 1080P recording
Go for the one S if you want this stuff:
- far better out of the box experience, sense is much nicer to use and has great apps e.g. the dialer, gallery, calendar, camera etc. which can't be matched by 3rd party apps
- better battery life
- far better looks/design and build/perceived quality
- better camera for photos and features overall
In the real world, performance is more or less the same really.
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Just realised you were talking about the USA versions, in that case the GPU and CPU is the same as the S, adreno 225 and S4
However, as I mentioned above the S whips the GS 3 that has the S4 etc. in the majority of stuff, so sense appears to be far better optimized than touchwiz regarding that.

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Basically you go for the GS 3 if you want this stuff:
- far better GPU
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All US GS3 versions use the S4 MSM8960 which has the same GPU as the One S has (Adreno 225). In fact, graphics performance should be better on the One S as it's driving a smaller screen.
And to answer the OP:
1) Not really. Browser does reload from time to time but I've never had Sense reloads like I did on the Sensation.
2) Good in my experience - should be at least a day if not more.
3) Yes.
4) Not in my experience.
5) Yes. Worked with my usual headphones as well as old iPod ones.
6) Never tried it.

Yeah, I just noticed that he meant the USA versions and always keep forgetting about these mobiles having different hardware in different parts of the world
And yup, the one S (even the XL, which has the same res.) whips the GS 3 s4 version.......
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...axy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants
So just shows that sense must be better optimized than touchwiz overall here.

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Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
Pointing out the VGA as a weakness means nothing at all.
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Not quite sure how that was having my ass handed to me. The guy said he doesn't use the FFC, with faceunlock a good front facing camera is key. I also take a ton of pics with my friends that way, and all this coming from a n00b mean ****e you toothless bloke.
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Good for you KillaHurtz, enjoy your note and your new GS 3 when you get it and have lots of fun with the superior front camera, most important feature right there!
Us HTC one S owners will enjoy our superior processor (for performance per core, better power efficiency and far less heat produced), superior build and perceived quality, not to mention looks and design.......... superior android skin, superior main camera for photos and features in the camera and gallery etc. and better battery life etc.
In anandtechs review of the USA version of the GS 3, which has the S4, the one S and the XL whips its ass in the majority of benchmarks!
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Well I also pointed out the pentile display which is gross, and the signal issue which there is tons of threads about. The One S and GS3 are similar to how the Sensation & GS2 T989 were related. Same processor, but the Sensation suffered from signal issues, lag and a poor FFC. Sense, whether you like it or not takes a lot of resources. FACT. The GS2 with the same exact processor performed leaps and bounds better and I have no doubt the GS3 is the same way this time around. I have owned all said devices, so this is not speculation or some bloggers paid opinion. The fact that you said US HTC One S users will have a superior processor.......umm how if it's the exact same one within the GS3?, 2gb of RAM sounds superior to me. Multitasking is a pain on the One S (one again, I have owned it) it can't even switch back to a webpage without having to reload. The One S may perform marginally better on an outdated & pixelated screen with crippled expansion abilities. Take that to the bank fanboys. Fail harder next time please
It all comes down to preference.
HTC always makes gorgeous exteriors that usually cause signal issues & they take forever to release source (Has is been yet?) Better build quality sure, but at the cost of performance?
Sense is super intensive on RAM and CPU and runs super deep into the android framework.
Samsung makes lighter, usually polycarbonate bodies to reduce weight and make them easier to replace. Signal has never been an issue with me on a Galaxy phone because of this design. Samsung released source code for the GS3 before the phone was officially released. CYANOGEN himself works for Samsung into helping them make the most cutting edge, efficient, and powerful coding for software.

I also have used the face camera unlock and have had no problems with it whatsoever Doesn't work in pitch black obviously but every time I unlock the device, the screen is also unlocked straight away. Take the ugly mask off
In your opinion the display is gross, not my opinion and same for many others, have shown everyone of my friends and family the display and they have been very impressed with it, one of the first things that they comment on.
Again, just because there are ton of threads where people are stating an issue doesn't mean that it applies to everyone.......... Many people only voice there opinions when something goes wrong and never any positives. And we only make up a very small % of owners for the S on this forum.
Again, you seem to be ignoring the screenshots in my post that I addressed these issues again, no problems with resources regarding RAM etc. as I have shown with the task manager. And if it really was hogging resources then please explain why the battery life is so great (for the S and XL) and outmatches the GS 3 S4 version despite the GS 3 having the bigger battery?????? So it musn't be FACT
Again what a strange observation you make, because I have had the GS 2 on stock ICS right beside my stock S and the performance was far better in everything, everything was just more instant and even my friend who owns the GS 2 said the exact same and the majority of people who have upgraded from the GS 2 to the S.
go and try loading a page full of gifs and see what comes out on top between the S, GS 2 and note.
Wrong again, people who have the S and GS 3 have said that both are just the same overall, the GS 3 is slightly smoother but in terms of raw speed, more or less the same. I also have had the 2 side by side and they are the same pretty much, GS 3 smoother but not by much.
Likewise! (not owned but plenty of time with the top end devices) and also these opinions are coming from other forums and these guys have owned every device there is and to just show good the S is, this one guy usually upgrades his mobile to the latest and greatest and sells the old one to fund it, but guess what, he didn't, he kept both the S and GS 3 because he loves the S sooo much as well, he didn't want to get rid of it and the only reason he is sticking with the GS 3 is due to storage, shocker!
Hmm, you obviously didn't read the post properly? Either that or you are a bit dumb and can't read I was talking about your note as well.........
And once again, in the benchmarks according to anandtech the one S is far superior to the GS 3 S4 version. "Sense not as well optimized and hogs resources"...........lol
Tell me where 2GB of RAM will be useful?
Sir, I think everyone knows who has failed here particularly after this, "The One S is ****e m8" and it most certainly isn't me or anyone else in this thread, but YOU, so back to the note/GS 3 threads where you belong
And the only one who is a fanboy here, is you
I wonder why all the review sites particularly gsmarena who are quite harsh on everything apart from the flagship devices spoke so highly of the S
Again, signal issues........I have no problems, but you seem to have ignored my post with screenshots showing that as usual
Yes the kernel source has been released for quite a while now.
You obviously didn't look at the anandtechs review as usual
Again, you obviously haven't seen my battery life screenshots and anandtechs review, if something is so intrusive and resource hungry then why does it perform better, why does it get better battery life?
LOL you have failed once again, the one S is lighter by a fair bit compared to the GS 3 and thinner hahahaha
Also polycarbonate bodies............emmmm they use cheap ass glossy plastic which makes the phone look like a cheap fisher price toy, the X/XL uses polycarbonate body.
Again no issues with signal here for me.
What a surprise the community is better than the one S.........I couldn't give a rats ass about the kernel source or ROMs etc. as I have no intentions of rooting the one S or flashing a custom ROM because it is PERFECT for ME.
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"toothless bloke" bahahahahaha, are you like 12 or something?
And it is quite clear that you are the noob!

Terminator19, you said what most people on this forum think, but in the most eloquent way. At the end of the day, this guy bought the S and had a bad experience. Even though thousands users and people in the industry disagree. Good that he likes his Note and all the best for his GS3.

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Hmm, you obviously didn't read the post properly? Either that or you are a bit dumb and can't read I was talking about your note as well.........
You keep comparing the One S to phones that carry the S3 processor, why ?
And the only one who is a fanboy here, is you
I'm an Android Fanboy, you got me there. I had had all HTC devices until the GS2 T989 (so from 2008 to October 2011)
Again, signal issues........I have no problems, but you seem to have ignored my post with screenshots showing that as usual
I think it's great when people don't experience those issues that plague a device.
Yes the kernel source has been released for quite a while now.
Great the device has been out and devs were flatout pissed about HTCs GPL compliance
Again, you obviously haven't seen my battery life screenshots and anandtechs review, if something is so intrusive and resource hungry then why does it perform better, why does it get better battery life?
Once again this is relative and I never mentioned battery life as a factor. When I had my One S I wasn't impressed compared to my T989. Yes the One S should get better battery life as the processor is optimized for it
LOL you have failed once again, the one S is lighter by a fair bit compared to the GS 3 and thinner hahahaha
Never said the GS3 was lighter or thinner m8
Also polycarbonate bodies............emmmm they use cheap ass glossy plastic which makes the phone look like a cheap fisher price toy, the X/XL uses polycarbonate body.
Once again they do use polycarbonate, maybe you should look up what that actually is. Some people like shiny things
What a surprise the community is better than the one S.........I couldn't give a rats ass about the kernel source or ROMs etc. as I have no intentions of rooting the one S or flashing a custom ROM because it is PERFECT for ME.
Why are you on a developers site then?
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You also mentioned the One S can load a pageful of .gifs faster than a Note or GS2, big surprise there bro. That's like comparing a Mustang to a Ferrari, of course the One S beats those at a totally useless test. You are comparing last years technology to one that is cutting edge. Of course the benchmarks are gonna be higher for the One S, it's running a smaller & lower rez screen. If were to run the same hardware on a 2" screen I would dust the One S by double. Kudos on the astonishing, non pertinent info which showcases your lack of how technology actually works. Kudos.

Big_Den said:
Terminator19, you said what most people on this forum think, but in the most eloquent way. At the end of the day, this guy bought the S and had a bad experience. Even though thousands users and people in the industry disagree. Good that he likes his Note and all the best for his GS3.
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Yeah, I usually don't post too much "defending" the phone especially "attacking" other phones etc. but it is getting tiring and irritating seeing the same posts by the same couple of people (think we all know who the other one is ) who keep posting the same xxxx in every thread where someone asks about the one S vs xxx or the pros and cons etc. and thinking that it applies to every single S there is and therefore the mobile is **** etc. etc.
Indeed, I have no problems with him liking a different mobile etc. just don't see the point of trashing the phone in it's own sub-forum when he had a bad experience.

Terminator19 said:
Yeah, I usually don't post too much "defending" the phone especially "attacking" other phones etc. but it is getting tiring and irritating seeing the same posts by the same couple of people (think we all know who the other one is ) who keep posting the same xxxx in every thread where someone asks about the one S vs xxx or the pros and cons etc. and thinking that it applies to every single S there is and therefore the mobile is **** etc. etc.
Indeed, I have no problems with him liking a different mobile etc. just don't see the point of trashing the phone in it's own sub-forum when he had a bad experience.
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I'm not trashing anything dude, these are simple facts that people may be overlooking. Someone asked a legitimate question and I am answering it with real world experience. I loved the One S to be honest, great camera, great form factory and benches that would make the android horsepower gurus drool.
Believe me I was sold, I actually bought it I liked it so much. I'm only providing a balanced view of things, and while my attitude may seem crude, the facts are not. This is a forum where people who sometimes have no insight of these products look to users/owners for advice. I am trying to provide that from an actual, non biased place. Sorry if it seems otherwise, sincerely.
I gave up my One S because it didn't seem like much of an upgrade. I am one of the dudes that has his phone filled with .FLACs, and full movies for my 3 year old daughter. I am what I would consider a power user and most times need an extra battery to get me thru the day. I hate being plugged in and hate streaming from a cloud because most of the time it reduces the quality of music, which defeats my extensive .FLAC library. That, and the fact that I travel to places in my state where coverage isn't so great. Was it a bad experience, no. I love HTC, this particular device I had to let go because it didn't fit my lifestyle, that's it.

I am not just comparing the phone to the phones that have the S3 chip.......I am comparing it to every other phone there is and the S4 is superior to every CPU even the quad in the GS 3 and X, not just for raw speed per core but also heat and power efficiency as well.
No you didn't but you keep saying about sense being a huge resource hog, however, how can it be if the one S and XL get great battery life if RAM and CPU is being hogged? Just like an app, which doesn't close when required and will hog resources and drain battery life. Granted the S4 helps a lot but even still if resources are being hogged then the battery life wouldn't be as good, also if sense was such a huge hog then the battery life would be nowhere as good and the one S is better than the GS 3 S4 version for battery life, and you said that touchwiz is far lighter and better optimized than sense, once again why would the battery life be worse on the GS 3 and better on the S etc.? (and yes I know the screen is bigger and higher res. on the GS 3 but the bigger battery makes up for that and the XL is still better anyway.
Also the hardware is crap/pointless if the software/drivers aren't optimized for it.
You said lighter
"Samsung makes lighter, usually polycarbonate bodies to reduce weight and make them easier to replace."
Yes it is polycarbonate, however, they ruin the true feel/look of it by having that hyperglaze/glossy finish to it.
This site isn't solely for discussion of ROM's, tweaks etc. but also discussion of apps, general stuff like accessories and useful info. on certain stuff.
Well, yes I used that comparison because you said this:
"The GS2 with the same exact processor performed leaps and bounds better"
Not really a useless test, well for me anyway, as I am a heavy web browser and a random gif thread is one of the many threads that I visit daily, so would like them to be smooth rather than a slideshow.
I didn't compare just the S and GS 3, but also the XL, which does have the same res. as the GS 3.
Again, I think you will find that everything is connected and thus all of my post has perfectly suited your points. It isn't just a simple oh processor better therefore that is better etc.
Right you go and say that in your last post and then you say this at the beginning of the thread:
"The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all."
Also I am not bias to the S at all, I have stated that there are faults/weak areas many times and in my review of the S as well:
Cons:
No NFC
No SD card slot and limited internal storage
Non-removable battery
Uses a pentile matrix instead of RGB
Notification LED isn't great
However, most of those things don't bother me too much, if at all now, the only thing that really bothers me is the NLED.
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Not only that but if you are wanting to give people advice on the S since you have owned it, then why didn't you answer the OP questions instead of just saying that one line, which isn't true as you just stated in your last post there pretty much and he didn't ask about the front camera at all.
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Also considering you stated there that you put flacs and films etc. on your mobiles, surely you should have known that was going to be an issue with the S in the first place then???

rakeshchn said:
I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
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1. Yes. It's a major issue with One X as well. I usually do a lot of browsing and have at least 3 tabs open and every time I switch to any other app (eg. Messaging) and go back to browser, it just reloads. This is ridiculous because sometimes I am typing something on the webpage before switching and I lose everything. Even xda app reloads after switching to messaging. I am thinking of getting GSIII because of this issue. I know I can root and get a custom Rom to make this work but again this is an expensive phone and such a trivial feature of android should work out of the box!
2. 1 day with gmail, 2 other personal emails, gvoice and a lot of browsing.
3. Yes
4. Yes. It's ironic that I never had any dropped calls with my older phones Amaze, MT4GS.
5. Never tried
6. Never tried. Sorry.
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rakeshchn said:
I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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1. I suffer from Wifi error after a system upgrade and now auto-reset after replacing a new one from Costco. But other things work pretty fine
2.less than 1 day
3.Yes, work quite well. But it eats a lot of battery
4.Sometimes drop calls.Also there are some 4G signal issues while using it indoor. But not as worst as Sensation 4G
5. Yes, there are FM tuner.
6. MHL work quite fine. I tested it on a 24" no-speaker-moniter. So don't know how it sounds like.
I suggest that you should wait for a GSIII instead, it will be a lot more better than One S. Replacable battery, upgradable memory(support up to 64 GB micro-SD card) , large battery(that's 2100mAh Vs. 1650mAh HTC One S), and also 2GB of ram(that's HTC One S 's double!!). But it will use Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor instead of quad-core, which means same as HTC One S. The only good thing about HTC One S is good camera, the brilliant HTC Sense 4.0, beats audio, extremly thin and light weight.
PS: If my One S suffer from annoying auto-restarting, can I just return the phone to Costco and grab a GS III??

One S is the best bang for your buck right now in the US. Although i wonder if we are gonna get 4.1 quickly since it looks like a minor upgrade.

This or the S3, please help me decide

Hey everyone, first off I want to apologize for creating a topic like this. I have been reading up on both phones through website, reviews and topics here on XDA. I just cant seem to make up my mind.
The one X has no removable battery when the battery is 1800Mah which is pathetic considering I am running a 1900Mah in my outdated HTC Sensation. This is a big downside to me; the S3 has a 2100Mah battery which is removable which is a big plus. I was looking at both battery life threads for the international versions and both seem good though. Could you guys possibly comment on this?
The cpu and gpu's of both phones are also interesting. The Exynos seems better then the Tegra 3 and coming from a S3 powered Sensation I do not want another laggy phone.. Please comment on this, possibly a link to another topic if it was made before.
Memory is not a big issue for me, 32gb is plenty.
I heard that the screen on the One X is better and easier on battery life, is this true?
Last thing is development; I love flashing new Roms and have been spoiled with the Sensations awesome developers. Does the international One X have the great support the Sensation has?
Thanks a ton guys!

Tegra is more than cape able
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y will be the battery life be same. have you seen the battery stats thread. battery life is worse. thats the only thing that is holding me back to buy the 1x. tegra 3 consumes more battery than exynos. my friend is using 1x. he said that he can hardly use his phone because of this bad battery life. i am waiting for the OTA. hope it improves the battery life. if so then i will instantly buy the HOX

Come one One X board, Bump!

I just got the S III. I compared it to the One S (different than the One X I know) and was disappointed in the HTC. Not having a memoir card slot was a deal breaker.
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muid02 said:
y will be the battery life be same. have you seen the battery stats thread. battery life is worse. thats the only thing that is holding me back to buy the 1x. tegra 3 consumes more battery than exynos. my friend is using 1x. he said that he can hardly use his phone because of this bad battery life. i am waiting for the OTA. hope it improves the battery life. if so then i will instantly buy the HOX
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When using the phone the majority of power is used on the screen, so I can't see how any update can make the screen use less power unless it turns it down to such a low brightness it can hardly be seen, and you can do that yourself without waiting for new software. Waiting for an OTA that is suddenly going to make the battery last a lot longer is going to be a long wait. Yes it might get tweaked to give a few more minutes here or there, or contain fixed software bugs that was causing the phone to draw too much power in standby, but it can only do so much.
You can get attachable battery backs for the HTC One X now which will greatly extend the runtime, but it will make the phone physically larger.
If you can't live with the HTC One X battery runtime, stop contemplating it and get the S3. If there is something you don't like about the S3 which makes you favour the HTC One X, then sometimes you have to have accept one limitation over the over and just make a decision.
Regards
Phil

I have had the S3 for a week and love the phone. However I am switching back to my international one x. The biggest reason for me is connectivity and I miss the screen on the one x. The screen on the S3 is nice, but when you put it side by side with the one x the one x just pops. Samsung incorporated a lot of very nice software customization however the one x feels a bit more refined. Both are dynamite phones, I do find that the one x drops calls much less than my S3 which has become very frustrating to me.
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If you are looking for a phone that is completely lag free out of the box go for the s3.

IF YOU HANDLE PHONE ROUGHLY DON'T BUY S3 AT ALL IT BREAKS AT SLIGHTEST FALL
SCREEN HOX
BATTERY S3(20% MORE USAGE)
ROMS S3 BUT HOX IS NOT BEHIND BY MUCH
UPDATES TO LATEST ANDROID HOX LOVE HTC FOR FASTER UPGRADE
CAMERA BOTH ARE EQUAL IN IMAGE IN VIDEO S3 IS IMPRESSIVE
DISPLAY S3 IS NO WHERE NEAR ONE X DISPLAY.
NOW THATS A REVIEW FOR POWER USER FOR CAUSUAL USER BOTH PHONE STANDS EQUAL AT PERFORMANCE. S3 GETS TOO HOT WHILE HTC ONE X GETS HOT BUT IT COOLS DOWN QUICK. WITH NEW UPDATE HEATING WILL GET BETTER ON ONE X.
ONE X DESIGN OMG!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLY SUPERB. EVERYTHING IS TOO GOOD COMFORTABLE HOLD SLIM SEXY CURY BODY LIKE A HOT CURVY BABES. S3 BODY LOL 10 YEARS OLD GLOSSY SHINY SLIPPERY PLASTIC PRONE TO SCRATCHES. FLIMSY BACK PANEL. THE SPEAKER BESIDE CAMERA RUINS THE DESIGN ITS SO YUKKY FOR ME.
OVERALL BOTH PHONES WILL SATISFY YOU WITH PERFORMANCE WHAT YOU NEED IS UPTO YOU. IF DESIGN IS IMPORTANT GO FOR ONE X AND IF REMOVABLE BATTERY MICRO SD SLOT IS MORE IMP GO FOR S3(THOUGH U WILL GET A DAY USAGE ON ONE X TOO)
LAST POINT SENSE IS STILL THE KING OF ANDROID OS CUSTOMIZATION AND NOW I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT SENSE IF YOU LOVED SENSE ON SENSATION DONT BUY S3 U WILL BE UNABLE TO BEAR TOUCHWIZ UI
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Joshua3109 said:
Hey everyone, first off I want to apologize for creating a topic like this. I have been reading up on both phones through website, reviews and topics here on XDA. I just cant seem to make up my mind.
The one X has no removable battery when the battery is 1800Mah which is pathetic considering I am running a 1900Mah in my outdated HTC Sensation. This is a big downside to me; the S3 has a 2100Mah battery which is removable which is a big plus. I was looking at both battery life threads for the international versions and both seem good though. Could you guys possibly comment on this?
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Battery depends on how to use it. Since you're going to unlock the phone there are lot of stuff you can do to improve the battery life. I can easily get 3.5 to 4 hours of screen time and last more than a day. The standby time of One X is great.
The cpu and gpu's of both phones are also interesting. The Exynos seems better then the Tegra 3 and coming from a S3 powered Sensation I do not want another laggy phone.. Please comment on this, possibly a link to another topic if it was made before.
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Now we have achieved GPU overclock so gaming performance will improve much more than before. I'm a minimalistic lover so lesser widgets and apps never had any lags. When comparing with the leaked firmware the UI is butter smooth and we have a lot of tweaks to make it even better.
Memory is not a big issue for me, 32gb is plenty.
I heard that the screen on the One X is better and easier on battery life, is this true?
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It again depends on how you use it. We have tweaked the auto brightness values to even lesser to improve the battery so Yes it's better.
[/QUOTE]Last thing is development; I love flashing new Roms and have been spoiled with the Sensations awesome developers. Does the international One X have the great support the Sensation has?
Thanks a ton guys![/QUOTE]
We are atleast 7 to 8 custom ROM's, 3 different variants of CM9 and AOKP, then MIUI as already have a early port of JB. So I can proudly we have best set of developers here :good:
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hapticc said:
IF YOU HANDLE PHONE ROUGHLY DON'T BUY S3 AT ALL IT BREAKS AT SLIGHTEST FALL
SCREEN HOX
BATTERY S3(20% MORE USAGE)
ROMS S3 BUT HOX IS NOT BEHIND BY MUCH
UPDATES TO LATEST ANDROID HOX LOVE HTC FOR FASTER UPGRADE
CAMERA BOTH ARE EQUAL IN IMAGE IN VIDEO S3 IS IMPRESSIVE
DISPLAY S3 IS NO WHERE NEAR ONE X DISPLAY.
NOW THATS A REVIEW FOR POWER USER FOR CAUSUAL USER BOTH PHONE STANDS EQUAL AT PERFORMANCE. S3 GETS TOO HOT WHILE HTC ONE X GETS HOT BUT IT COOLS DOWN QUICK. WITH NEW UPDATE HEATING WILL GET BETTER ON ONE X.
ONE X DESIGN OMG!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLY SUPERB. EVERYTHING IS TOO GOOD COMFORTABLE HOLD SLIM SEXY CURY BODY LIKE A HOT CURVY BABES. S3 BODY LOL 10 YEARS OLD GLOSSY SHINY SLIPPERY PLASTIC PRONE TO SCRATCHES. FLIMSY BACK PANEL. THE SPEAKER BESIDE CAMERA RUINS THE DESIGN ITS SO YUKKY FOR ME.
OVERALL BOTH PHONES WILL SATISFY YOU WITH PERFORMANCE WHAT YOU NEED IS UPTO YOU. IF DESIGN IS IMPORTANT GO FOR ONE X AND IF REMOVABLE BATTERY MICRO SD SLOT IS MORE IMP GO FOR S3(THOUGH U WILL GET A DAY USAGE ON ONE X TOO)
LAST POINT SENSE IS STILL THE KING OF ANDROID OS CUSTOMIZATION AND NOW I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT SENSE IF YOU LOVED SENSE ON SENSATION DONT BUY S3 U WILL BE UNABLE TO BEAR TOUCHWIZ UI
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Dude what's up with the caps ... Caps mean your yelling at the OP

Edit: multi quote didn't work out that well.
Good points made, I'd like to add that battery life of both phones is nearly the same, sIII has an edge by a margin. Danes goes for benchmarks.
I was chatting with this friend of mine who just got an SIII, he was whining about the battery life after having his brightness at lowest and sync off.
Developer support is great like ShyamSasi mentioned.
Choose after keeping in mind what's more important to you
1)Design
2)removable battery
3)expandable memory
4)sense vs touchwiz
5)tegra powered games
6)amoled vs slcd2?
hapticc said:
IF YOU HANDLE PHONE ROUGHLY DON'T BUY S3 AT ALL IT BREAKS AT SLIGHTEST FALL
SCREEN HOX
BATTERY S3(20% MORE USAGE)
ROMS S3 BUT HOX IS NOT BEHIND BY MUCH
UPDATES TO LATEST ANDROID HOX LOVE HTC FOR FASTER UPGRADE
CAMERA BOTH ARE EQUAL IN IMAGE IN VIDEO S3 IS IMPRESSIVE
DISPLAY S3 IS NO WHERE NEAR ONE X DISPLAY.
NOW THATS A REVIEW FOR POWER USER FOR CAUSUAL USER BOTH PHONE STANDS EQUAL AT PERFORMANCE. S3 GETS TOO HOT WHILE HTC ONE X GETS HOT BUT IT COOLS DOWN QUICK. WITH NEW UPDATE HEATING WILL GET BETTER ON ONE X.
ONE X DESIGN OMG!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLY SUPERB. EVERYTHING IS TOO GOOD COMFORTABLE HOLD SLIM SEXY CURY BODY LIKE A HOT CURVY BABES. S3 BODY LOL 10 YEARS OLD GLOSSY SHINY SLIPPERY PLASTIC PRONE TO SCRATCHES. FLIMSY BACK PANEL. THE SPEAKER BESIDE CAMERA RUINS THE DESIGN ITS SO YUKKY FOR ME.
OVERALL BOTH PHONES WILL SATISFY YOU WITH PERFORMANCE WHAT YOU NEED IS UPTO YOU. IF DESIGN IS IMPORTANT GO FOR ONE X AND IF REMOVABLE BATTERY MICRO SD SLOT IS MORE IMP GO FOR S3(THOUGH U WILL GET A DAY USAGE ON ONE X TOO)
LAST POINT SENSE IS STILL THE KING OF ANDROID OS CUSTOMIZATION AND NOW I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT SENSE IF YOU LOVED SENSE ON SENSATION DONT BUY S3 U WILL BE UNABLE TO BEAR TOUCHWIZ UI
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What's with the caps lock?
Body like hot curvy babes xD lol!
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Go into a store with both the S3 and the one x and try them. I prefer the one x personally because it looks nicer, the screen is far better and in my opinion htc sense > touchwiz. But you might think differently so id recommend trying them out.

Got to play with a white GSIII alongside a white HOX yesterday (mine is grey).
Here are my two cents:
Looks
Visually, there's just no comparison between the two. On comparing the two devices side by side, HOX smokes SIII. Even all my friends who were with me thought the same. HOX looks infinitely better than GSIII.
Performance and Processors
Performance wise, the Exynos on the GSIII is a tad faster than the Tegra3 on the HOX, but honestly with such a high processing power, the differences in performance will be negligible, if at all visible.
One thing worth considering here is that with Tegra3, you get the advantage of a lot of great games that are optimized for it and offer a much better visual experience than on other processors.
Display
Now the display. Both are very high resolution, but the one on the SIII is a pentile one and is AMOLED. Now I know that the ppi on both are extremely high, but to the eyes of a discerning user, the difference in sharpness is visible. The display on the HOX looks sharper.
Some people prefer amoled, others prefer LCD. Personally, I find the colors to be a little too "punchy" on AMOLEDs. But you may have a different preference. Try playing with it before making a decision.
Now to the most important part and the reason most of us are here:
Custom ROMs
S-OFF hasn't yet been achieved by the HOX community, and that makes flashing custom ROMs a tad more tedious. Flashing custom ROMs on SAMMY devices is generally more hassle free.
Quality wise, the HOX community has some truly amazing devs and the ROM scene is very exciting.
User Experience
In the end, both of these are amazing devices. Play with both of them and decide which one you like better. TouchWiz vs. Sense is another very subjective topic and you'll have to judge on your own. But if you're planning on running AOSP, they don't really make a difference.
Camera
Haven't tested the camera on the GSIII, but I'm sure it's amazing. But so is the one on HOX. I think you could pick either one of them without really looking into this. If you're looking for serious photography however, I'd suggest you look for a good DSLR instead.

Guys thanks so much for the awesome replies! No S-off, oh no I don't like that; the S3 has S-off I'm assuming?
I think I am leaning towards the S3 though; the removable battery is making the difference for me. Also, coming from a laggy Sensation I want all the processing power I can get to avoid any lag in the future; I hate lag!

Both phones have a quad core processors. Idk why anyone even says theres possible lag on quad core phones. The Samsung has an amoled screen which means any white pictures or anything white that pops up drains battery amazingly faster. Sense 4 is rock solid and just flows good. Touchwiz is all over the place with cool features that you'll probably forget you have eventually. I feel like the gs3 to the gs2 is like the iphone4s to the 4. Its just a better looking gs2 with more **** on there., but unorganized. The galaxy s 4 will definitely be amazing because Samsung vowed to work on their software more than anything.
Battery wise, the gs3 seems like it takes up more resources than the one x because the u.s version has an extra gig of ram. My friends gs3 from att has **** battery life compared to my one x variant.
HTC is also obviously the underdog in phone sales so it would make sense that they would put more effort in building a high quality phone, which they clearly did. Samsung knows there on top so they overly marketed their phone everywhere and now its really popular, still top notch, but it was released before it was perfected.
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I came from a i9100. I sold it before the i9300 came out so I could get more for it. I got a One X but planned on selling it once the SGS3 was released. I used a S4 SGS3 in Japan for two days and decided to keep the One X. There are 162 pages of debate on the SGS3 forum discussing both phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652250
Here's why I kept the One X vs. getting a SGS3 as posted in that thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27663514&postcount=1525
Keep in mind that the first 2/3's of that comparison thread was written before the SGS3 came out when people were comparing a utopian vision vs. the One X which had been out for a few months. Things have changed because the SGS3 has its share of issues. Most center on the display (defects, dimness), available RAM (the S-Crap reserves a large amount of memory), battery drain (wakelock issues), fragility (the edge-to-edge glass panel breaks easily), and QC (bezels cracked, hyperglaze defects, and the physical home button being recessed instead of raised).
At least to me, the One X's most outstanding feature is its display. I wasn't impressed with the SGS3's; especailly side-by-side. Displaymate is a professional display testing and evaluation company. They wrote up a review of the SGS3's display. It's not too flattering.
http://www.displaymate.com/OLED_Galaxy_S123_ShootOut_1.htm
The One X was rushed to market by HTC, probably to get there ahead of Samsung and the SGS3. There were build issues, s/w and driver bugs, and some h/w problems. The launch didn't go exceptionally well. Some issues still exist but the chatter's died down considerably so you can assume things have improved as more phones have been built.
If you look at the way the One X is put together, the "phone" is a single unit and slides in to the single-piece polycarbonate body. Tolerances are pretty tight and probably difficult to achieve in mass assembly. The biggest issue is a Wi-Fi fault created when the connectors on the body aren't correctly aligned with the antennas on the shell during assembly. The connectors use dynamic tension so compressing the back of the phone can also affect Wi-Fi performance. Based on a rough tally, 200-400 owners on the forum are affected against a total of about 5K. The "fix" put in place by HTC are spacers to keep the back from being compressed. Where the connectors are isn't an area likely to be compressed (unless someone intentionally compresses it) and the fix is more of a safeguard. The design itself hasn't been changed and the majority of phones aren't affected. I'm sure HTC's adjusted the assembly process either through better training or new methods of getting the phone body in to the shell. HTC phones have their build month identified in their serial number. The "3" in XX23 means March and so on. I have a early-build HT23 and it's been pretty much flawless in every way so not all early-build phones had problems. A poll that was run with 1K people voting where the question was asked “is your One X perfect?”, 70% said yes. As in anything mass produced, later versions tend to have better tolerances through tuning of the build process over time.
There's been a leak of a pretty substantial update to the One X that's due out soon. It moves the phone to 4.0.4, improves battery life, performance and benchmarks, enhances the browser, and addresses a lot of little issues that bugged people. Read that thread and it'll give you an idea of what to expect.
Keep in mind that if you intend to root your phone you'll be completely giving up your warranty on the One X where Samsung's still pretty liberal. More people need to take that in to consideration before they buy the One X.
Overall, I'm happy and there's no phone out there right now I'd rather have. Friends I've recommended the phone to are happy also. Good luck with your decision.

@Op, did you duplicate the same thread in S III forum because that's not allowed neither by forum rules but
the most fair thing don't you think? Otherwise you should have used general section.
I'm a pain I know but reading the forum rules or use your common sense is probably a pain too.
Another 'SPOON FEED' thread, aargh !!!
Look how many threads about the same subject exist, '2 sec using the >>> SEARCH BUTTON'
@Moderators,
Thanks for moving thread. :good:

Sorry for caps guys i didnt knew it meant that way