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Galaxy S2 or Sensation?

Which and why?

Sensation because it´s HTC

I have never used a Dual Core phone so is it MUCH faster? Is there like 0 lag in those phones? I remember my inspire couldnt play vids properly and they would lag.

I have the same question... Sensation or Galaxy S2? I'm running a T959 with Trigger, but it's time for an upgrade. Any input would be appreciated - especially comparison of speed, ease of rooting, and ease of installing custom ROMs. I use wireless tethering and GPS navigation a lot... so those 2 things are very important to me.

I really want this thread to get interesting so I'll post my two UK pennies.
I'm still deciding between these two phones. I've played with both in the shop and they're very different beasts.
The S2 is a stunning slab of a phone. It's ridiculously light and feels plasticy yet amazingly sturdy. The screen is superb. I'm coming from an AMOLED Desire (same screen as N1) and the screen is a huge step up. The WVGA res genuinely doesn't bother me in the slightest. Everything is big and clear and bright and gorgeous.
The Sensation feels a lot more solid in the hand. It's a more classy piece of hardware. It is considerably fatter and heavier than the S2 and feels like it could take some knocks. As someone who has used older versions of Sense quite a lot and not especially liked them, I found the Sensations's interface to be a big disappointment. Sense 3 felt just as slow and the earlier Sense version that ran on my Desire (before rooting/flashing). I'm sure it would be super slick with an AOSP rom. The screen is good but not a patch on the S2 IMO. The power button is impossible to reach with one hand - why HTC is still putting it on the top of the phone I have no idea.
So at this point I preferred the S2s screen (and camera by small margin from testing in the shop) and the Sensation's hardware.
In light of the court case I ordered an S2 and have now had it for 24hrs. With the exception of the lack of notification LED it's everything I'd hoped for. It's fast. Not iPhone smooth, but the closest I've seen in an Android device. Still running stock firmware.
Unlike the Sensation, it's not possible to replace the camera lens of the S2 without replacing the whole phone. The camera lens is not at all recessed and this this makes me nervous about putting it down on a flat surface. The S2 needs a case to protect it IMO whereas the HTC seems sufficiently tough to survive without one.
I'm still not 100% and still have a few days left to return the phone...
Does anyone else have experience with the two phones?

Thanks, bedeabc

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Sensation because it´s HTC
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Exactly my thoughts.

The SGSII has a much better CPU and GPU than the sensation. I don't want to get technical, but Samsung's processor is better than HTC's. I would also suggest Samsung's GPU in the SGSII over Sensation. I have had Sense and Touchwiz and Sense is very slow and a memory hog, whereas Touchwiz is light. Both phones running AOSP would be great, but I feel that the SGSII is just better as far as internal hardware goes. HTC is better at updating their devices software wise, though.

orb3000 said:
Sensation because it´s HTC
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lowandbehold said:
Exactly my thoughts.
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Come on guys, that's lame. I too have more faith in HTC than I do Samsung but I bought the S2 because (albeit by a very small margin!) I believe that it's the better phone. That screen is just amazing. I already FAR prefer Touchwiz to any version of Sense. But obviously here I am on XDA so the root will happen tonight I hope!
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Thanks, bedeabc
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Right now i think the best phone at sale is the galaxy s ii. Ports will obviously be easier to make with the sensation, but talking about stock roms, the s2 is by far the best phone:
More free ram (not only because of 1gb of ram vs 768 but because of sense 3), and in my opinion has a better processor.
I'm not a samsung fanboy, there are tons of things i could say they've done wrong, but i think the s2 is better.
And by the way, even though the sensation feels more solid, i'm no longer deciding for a phone due to this, not only because of coversbut because my sgs has resisted many falls, even one 3m fall and it fell on a pool for 1-2 sec and survived, it didn't even turn off, so just because of this i can say that even though it doesn't feel resistant, it may resist more. I've tried none of this phones, and i can only give my point of view from what i've read and my experience.
I don't know if samsung will do the same with the s2, but the s1 has been updated from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.2.1 to 2.3.2 to 2.3.3 to 2.3.4, much more updates than most phones have had, and there have been many improvements even though the s2 is out there and the sgs hasn't been forgotten.
Back to htc and sense, I can also say that sense is really good, but it consumes a lot of ram and may feel laggy, but on other htc phones i've seen with sense 2.1, it was really fluid and i really liked it, more than touchwiz.
There is no real way of comparing this two phones in a fair way unless they're running the same rom.
No matter which phone you choose out of these two, you are going to get an amazing phone.
The decision is yours, so think carefully about which phone you think is best for you

bedeabc said:
I really want this thread to get interesting so I'll post my two UK pennies.
I'm still deciding between these two phones. I've played with both in the shop and they're very different beasts.
The S2 is a stunning slab of a phone. It's ridiculously light and feels plasticy yet amazingly sturdy. The screen is superb. I'm coming from an AMOLED Desire (same screen as N1) and the screen is a huge step up. The WVGA res genuinely doesn't bother me in the slightest. Everything is big and clear and bright and gorgeous.
The Sensation feels a lot more solid in the hand. It's a more classy piece of hardware. It is considerably fatter and heavier than the S2 and feels like it could take some knocks. As someone who has used older versions of Sense quite a lot and not especially liked them, I found the Sensations's interface to be a big disappointment. Sense 3 felt just as slow and the earlier Sense version that ran on my Desire (before rooting/flashing). I'm sure it would be super slick with an AOSP rom. The screen is good but not a patch on the S2 IMO. The power button is impossible to reach with one hand - why HTC is still putting it on the top of the phone I have no idea.
So at this point I preferred the S2s screen (and camera by small margin from testing in the shop) and the Sensation's hardware.
In light of the court case I ordered an S2 and have now had it for 24hrs. With the exception of the lack of notification LED it's everything I'd hoped for. It's fast. Not iPhone smooth, but the closest I've seen in an Android device. Still running stock firmware.
Unlike the Sensation, it's not possible to replace the camera lens of the S2 without replacing the whole phone. The camera lens is not at all recessed and this this makes me nervous about putting it down on a flat surface. The S2 needs a case to protect it IMO whereas the HTC seems sufficiently tough to survive without one.
I'm still not 100% and still have a few days left to return the phone...
Does anyone else have experience with the two phones?
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Yup, here's what I posted elsewhere:
I've got an O2 Sensation, colleague has a Vodafone SGS2
The sensation feels much stronger, she commented that her SGS2 felt like you could snap it if you weren't careful, and I have to agree, while you couldn't actually do that, it does feel like you could.
SGS2 is easier to hold though, the rounded smooth edges of the Sensation are just begging for it to slip and drop.
Not got a problem reaching the power button on the top of the Sensation even with my stubby fingers.
The speaker on my Sensation is much louder than her SGS2, she's complaining that she can't hear the SGS2 in her bag. I was surprised as to how quiet it was on max volume.
The SGS2 has a lovely screen, the Sensation has a very nice screen.
My Sensation has the landscape wifi issue losing a bar or 2 of signal. From what others have posted, the OTA update or a custom ROM can fix this rather than a warranty claim for a replacement back cover.
The lock screen on the Sensation is much more responsive and the ability to jump straight to certain apps from the defaul lock screen is great. She often has to swipe two or three times to unlock the SGS2 as she's not moving the lock screen image far enough.
Sensation has Sense 3, which for me wipes the floor with the SGS2 interface, I really don't get on with anything but Sense, however I know a lot of people don't like sense and prefer the stock Android interface.
Sensation has Trace keyboard. She's activated swype on her SGS2 to make typing easier as like me can't get on with the stock Android keyboard. Swype is much better at doing the job than Trace, but I prefer the HTC keyboard and type faster with my thumbs than with either Swype or Trace.
Don't know about battery life on her SGS2, but my Sensation is getting about a day out of it and that's with push mail on two accounts and a bit of browsing.
To be honest, the only thing that would make my Sensation perfect would be a replacement back panel with squarer sides and a better WIFI antenna.
If you try a Sensation and it isn't fast and smooth, then there's something wrong with it.
Likewise there could be something wrong with her phone with regards to the speaker not being as loud as mine.
They are both at the top of their league, and the decision will be down to which one suits your needs better.
If you're not sure, get it over the phone/web so you have 14 days to return it if you're not happy (in the UK that is)
Play with them as much as possible in shops, go to several shops too.

For Tmobile, is the Hercules going to be the S2, or am I just so retarded that I simply have no idea what I'm talking about? http://www.phonedog.com/2011/08/23/...-the-galaxy-s-ii-missed-its-window-in-the-us/

before i went to buy a phone
the best things were the sensation and the SGS2
i got the SGS2
1. i wanted a phone as smooth as the iphone in scrolling
2.very good flash player experience (HWA)
and from my knowledge the SGS2 is the only (partial) hardware accelerated phone out there the sensation is not as smooth as the sgs2 and not as powerful go watch some youtube vids out there
3.future proof (samsung gave free SGS2s to the CM team and currently we have nighties)
4.amoled screen (dont tell me about resolution what i want is the contrast that makes you think "is the phone on or is that my stupid black background pic"
+ colors are to die for
5.sturdy (this phone is solid as a rock if u try to twist it u wont hear a squeak at all its hard as a rock
cons with this phone
1.people who first got it experienced very bad battery life but after updates that issue went away for most people i can get 4 days with my phone
2.people get heating issue with their phones
but the heating issue was just a warm feeling for me near the camera lens
3.my biggest issue if you record video 720p and over (in doors ) the phone goes down to 10 fps for 2 seconds and then speeds up then speeds down etc - this issue is still not fixed - but out doors works perfectly
4.you can get finger prints on the screen if you dont have a screen protector
5. people are reporting volume issues when calling
you can fix this manually from what i understand (using a code)
6.there are a couple of high end games and emulators that have issues with the Samsung's powerful gpu

To be honest, using the two side by side, I noticed no difference between the smoothness of the two.
Didn't know that the SGS2 had hardware acceleration until today!
However, that's comparing UK phones. US phones appear to be borked by carriers as standard. No idea why, but there are more reports of slow phones from US carriers than UK ones, likewise with the amount of bloatware, US carriers (from what I've seen posted here) load phones up with it while in the UK (on O2 especially) they don't which is going to have an impact on performance.

xaccers said:
To be honest, using the two side by side, I noticed no difference between the smoothness of the two.
Didn't know that the SGS2 had hardware acceleration until today!
However, that's comparing UK phones. US phones appear to be borked by carriers as standard. No idea why, but there are more reports of slow phones from US carriers than UK ones, likewise with the amount of bloatware, US carriers (from what I've seen posted here) load phones up with it while in the UK (on O2 especially) they don't which is going to have an impact on performance.
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coudnt you notice it in the stock browser

Sensation hands down

I haven't had any experience with the Sensation, but 3 people I know have the S2 and I was playing with 1 earlier and I fell in love.
This prompted me to install 'droid on my Topaz.

joker2428 said:
Sensation hands down
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Oh that settles it then. I'm running out right now to buy one. Thank you so much!
Sarcasm out.

orb3000 said:
Sensation because it´s HTC
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what the answer~

sgsII has better hardware and better design too

Why I'm going to keep this phone - benefits outweigh downsides...

I've had this phone for about 10 days now and I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus 4.0.4 which I still love and adore. Having said that I've decided I'm keeping this phone because like with everything while not perfect, the benefits to it outweigh the downsides. Here's my take:
Things I love about One X:
- Screen is spectacular and best I've ever seen yet. Puts Nexus to shame. Hard going back to Nexus after using the One X
- Camera - best camera I've ever used on any mobile device yet. Not just optics but the software is fantastic. Love the burst mode/best shot, HDR actually does something, panaroma, etc. Especially coming from Nexus, it's a HUGE improvement
- LTE - yes it eats battery like nothing else but god damn it's fast and it's glorious. My first cell phone didn't have data and the first one with data had GPRS (not even EDGE) so the fact I can be standing somewhere and get 25mbps down is just mind boggling. Love it.
- CPU - the S4 is a beast, I have a PS Vita and an iPad3 so I don't need my phone to be a gaming powerhouse but this thing flies. Noticeably faster for me in many apps than the Nexus and web browsing is desktop class. I can even leave Flash to always on and I don't even notice! Definitely future proof for at least another year.
- Build quality - superb and feels very solid. NO creaking and it's light but does not feel cheap. Galaxy Nexus feels great too but still feels cheaper and flimsy compared to One X. I have the white one and it looks very very nice.
- Bluetooth 4.0 - had some problems on stock ROM (related to wifi I think) but with 1.82 it's very stable and works great. Future proofing for newer devices coming now with 4.0. I'm a big Bluetooth user so nice having the latest spec.
Things I really don't like about the One X:
- Sense 4.0 - yes it's better than previous ones (I had an Incredible and a Sensation) but it's still a piece of crap. Unnecessary UI animations and changes just for the fact they want to change things. YES there are nice little tweaks they've done but those are for me the ones under the hood and not really UI ones. The memory management/multitasking thing is a great example of one gone wrong but for me personally, I LOVE stock ICS and I can't wait for an unlocked bootloader so I can run a stock AOKP ROM on it.
- WiFi - although the 1.82 RUU seems to have fixed it somewhat, it's still flaky. I have to have "best wifi performance" checked otherwise notifications don't always come through when phone is asleep.
- Battery life - I guess I can't be too hard on it because of the screen, CPU and LTE but it still is quite unpredictable. It's NOT BAD but it's not great for me yet either. I'm sure I'll get it to a point where it'll be reliable but right now it seems all over the place.
- Power button - why in god's name do the morons at HTC stick the power/sleep button on the top of the phone when every other manufacturer has realized it's more logical to put it on the side. Especially on a 4.7" phone!! Idiots. This is annoying but I can live with it.
- Wide phone - the screen is only .5 " bigger than the Nexus but the phone is much wider in my hand and not as comfortable but not a deal breaker for me.
- AT&T Crapware - can be disabled but irritating they loaded it up with so much garbage.
- NO Google Wallet support - I MISS THIS the most from Nexus. I have a Citi card setup and used it a ton daily but now I can't
There is probably more but these are the highlights. So yes, the phone is far from perfect but I'm not getting rid of my Nexus so I will still have that. This phone has what I'm looking for which is the camera, screen, network and cpu that beats my current phone...so I'll look past the other stuff that bothers me - at least until I can flash stock ICS on it.

mobilehavoc said:
I've had this phone for about 10 days now and I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus 4.0.4 which I still love and adore. Having said that I've decided I'm keeping this phone because like with everything while not perfect, the benefits to it outweigh the downsides. Here's my take:
Things I love about One X:
- Screen is spectacular and best I've ever seen yet. Puts Nexus to shame. Hard going back to Nexus after using the One X
- Camera - best camera I've ever used on any mobile device yet. Not just optics but the software is fantastic. Love the burst mode/best shot, HDR actually does something, panaroma, etc. Especially coming from Nexus, it's a HUGE improvement
- LTE - yes it eats battery like nothing else but god damn it's fast and it's glorious. My first cell phone didn't have data and the first one with data had GPRS (not even EDGE) so the fact I can be standing somewhere and get 25mbps down is just mind boggling. Love it.
- CPU - the S4 is a beast, I have a PS Vita and an iPad3 so I don't need my phone to be a gaming powerhouse but this thing flies. Noticeably faster for me in many apps than the Nexus and web browsing is desktop class. I can even leave Flash to always on and I don't even notice! Definitely future proof for at least another year.
- Build quality - superb and feels very solid. NO creaking and it's light but does not feel cheap. Galaxy Nexus feels great too but still feels cheaper and flimsy compared to One X. I have the white one and it looks very very nice.
- Bluetooth 4.0 - had some problems on stock ROM (related to wifi I think) but with 1.82 it's very stable and works great. Future proofing for newer devices coming now with 4.0. I'm a big Bluetooth user so nice having the latest spec.
Things I really don't like about the One X:
- Sense 4.0 - yes it's better than previous ones (I had an Incredible and a Sensation) but it's still a piece of crap. Unnecessary UI animations and changes just for the fact they want to change things. YES there are nice little tweaks they've done but those are for me the ones under the hood and not really UI ones. The memory management/multitasking thing is a great example of one gone wrong but for me personally, I LOVE stock ICS and I can't wait for an unlocked bootloader so I can run a stock AOKP ROM on it.
- WiFi - although the 1.82 RUU seems to have fixed it somewhat, it's still flaky. I have to have "best wifi performance" checked otherwise notifications don't always come through when phone is asleep.
- Battery life - I guess I can't be too hard on it because of the screen, CPU and LTE but it still is quite unpredictable. It's NOT BAD but it's not great for me yet either. I'm sure I'll get it to a point where it'll be reliable but right now it seems all over the place.
- Power button - why in god's name do the morons at HTC stick the power/sleep button on the top of the phone when every other manufacturer has realized it's more logical to put it on the side. Especially on a 4.7" phone!! Idiots. This is annoying but I can live with it.
- Wide phone - the screen is only .5 " bigger than the Nexus but the phone is much wider in my hand and not as comfortable but not a deal breaker for me.
- AT&T Crapware - can be disabled but irritating they loaded it up with so much garbage.
- NO Google Wallet support - I MISS THIS the most from Nexus. I have a Citi card setup and used it a ton daily but now I can't
There is probably more but these are the highlights. So yes, the phone is far from perfect but I'm not getting rid of my Nexus so I will still have that. This phone has what I'm looking for which is the camera, screen, network and cpu that beats my current phone...so I'll look past the other stuff that bothers me - at least until I can flash stock ICS on it.
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Just went back to my Nexus for a bit and I have to keep brightness at 50%. Anything less and the Nexus display hurts my eyes after spending time with the OneX. However software wise it feels so good.
Keeping the OneX but so so happy to have a Nexus I can take a break and go back to.
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im actually starting to miss my gnex.
If i could get my boot loader unlocked and load a stock ics rom on it id change my mind.

Not a word about lack of multitasking? Really? IMO it's overweights every con you've listed all together...If just this not going to be fixed in next 20 days, I'm returning it.
And then only 10gb of space for all the apps to install and 8mp camera with 1080p video compatibility? And 600mb of user accessible RAM?
I think you got to get your priorities straight
Regarding the power button, I've owned 7 phones so far, different manufactures and all of them had power button on top. Doesn't bother me a single bit.
However the volume buttons placed on the opposite side of 3.5 jack is a bad design, because with this configuration you can't access them when the phone in the belt pouch. The 3.5 jack kind of forcing the pouch being on left side, making the buttons be at the bottom.

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Not a word about lack of multitasking? Really? IMO it's overweights every con you've listed all together...If just this not going to be fixed in next 20 days, I'm returning it.
And then only 10gb of space for all the apps to install and 8mp camera with 1080p video compatibility? And 600mb of user accessible RAM?
I think you got to get your priorities straight
Regarding the power button, I've owned 7 phones so far, different manufactures and all of them had power button on top. Doesn't bother me a single bit.
However the volume buttons placed on the opposite side of 3.5 jack is a bad design, because with this configuration you can't access them when the phone in the belt pouch. The 3.5 jack kind of forcing the pouch being on left side, making the buttons be at the bottom.
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Its annoying but not a huge issue for me yet. I also plan on rooting soon and customizing. I believe part of the issue is the minfree setting which you should be able to edit with root. Also it can't be far off before custom ROMs based on AOSP will be out. Just waiting for the boot loader to be unlocked.
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Have not experienced LTE yet, but I am on "4G" here in Utah. We will get LTE by the end of the year I guess.
The screen on this thing is down right beastly. Just amazing. Compared to my iPhone 4s, damn.
I don't mind the multitasking to be honest coming from an iPhone where I never used it. It suites me fine.
Camera isn't great, I don't believe as good as the iPhone 4s, but still one of the best I have seen so far.
So far battery life I get around 16 hours, not bad, but not great.
Phone quality is there as well. No complaints from me.
I guess the only downside so far for me is the google wallet. I was really wanting to use that when switching over to android. Hopefully it will happen via att or root at some point.
mobilehavoc said:
I've had this phone for about 10 days now and I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus 4.0.4 which I still love and adore. Having said that I've decided I'm keeping this phone because like with everything while not perfect, the benefits to it outweigh the downsides. Here's my take:
Things I love about One X:
- Screen is spectacular and best I've ever seen yet. Puts Nexus to shame. Hard going back to Nexus after using the One X
- Camera - best camera I've ever used on any mobile device yet. Not just optics but the software is fantastic. Love the burst mode/best shot, HDR actually does something, panaroma, etc. Especially coming from Nexus, it's a HUGE improvement
- LTE - yes it eats battery like nothing else but god damn it's fast and it's glorious. My first cell phone didn't have data and the first one with data had GPRS (not even EDGE) so the fact I can be standing somewhere and get 25mbps down is just mind boggling. Love it.
- CPU - the S4 is a beast, I have a PS Vita and an iPad3 so I don't need my phone to be a gaming powerhouse but this thing flies. Noticeably faster for me in many apps than the Nexus and web browsing is desktop class. I can even leave Flash to always on and I don't even notice! Definitely future proof for at least another year.
- Build quality - superb and feels very solid. NO creaking and it's light but does not feel cheap. Galaxy Nexus feels great too but still feels cheaper and flimsy compared to One X. I have the white one and it looks very very nice.
- Bluetooth 4.0 - had some problems on stock ROM (related to wifi I think) but with 1.82 it's very stable and works great. Future proofing for newer devices coming now with 4.0. I'm a big Bluetooth user so nice having the latest spec.
Things I really don't like about the One X:
- Sense 4.0 - yes it's better than previous ones (I had an Incredible and a Sensation) but it's still a piece of crap. Unnecessary UI animations and changes just for the fact they want to change things. YES there are nice little tweaks they've done but those are for me the ones under the hood and not really UI ones. The memory management/multitasking thing is a great example of one gone wrong but for me personally, I LOVE stock ICS and I can't wait for an unlocked bootloader so I can run a stock AOKP ROM on it.
- WiFi - although the 1.82 RUU seems to have fixed it somewhat, it's still flaky. I have to have "best wifi performance" checked otherwise notifications don't always come through when phone is asleep.
- Battery life - I guess I can't be too hard on it because of the screen, CPU and LTE but it still is quite unpredictable. It's NOT BAD but it's not great for me yet either. I'm sure I'll get it to a point where it'll be reliable but right now it seems all over the place.
- Power button - why in god's name do the morons at HTC stick the power/sleep button on the top of the phone when every other manufacturer has realized it's more logical to put it on the side. Especially on a 4.7" phone!! Idiots. This is annoying but I can live with it.
- Wide phone - the screen is only .5 " bigger than the Nexus but the phone is much wider in my hand and not as comfortable but not a deal breaker for me.
- AT&T Crapware - can be disabled but irritating they loaded it up with so much garbage.
- NO Google Wallet support - I MISS THIS the most from Nexus. I have a Citi card setup and used it a ton daily but now I can't
There is probably more but these are the highlights. So yes, the phone is far from perfect but I'm not getting rid of my Nexus so I will still have that. This phone has what I'm looking for which is the camera, screen, network and cpu that beats my current phone...so I'll look past the other stuff that bothers me - at least until I can flash stock ICS on it.
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I'm about to bring mine back because of the multi tasking. I have my gnex in my draw and it wants to go back into action. Once things get sorted out and boot loader unlocked I'll probably but another HOX
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I can't see any trouble with the One X in anyway. Multitasking if your asking me.... I switch between 2 or 3 apps at the most. I don't do gaming with it. Mostly use it for processing capacity and some programing, emails, sms, whatsapp, im+, documents to go etc... I don't use any of the stock application and most of the stock/htc apps are disabled. I've installed what I needed to operate the phone and software. Space wise... geez I have plenty of space left 6GB left after loading nearly 120 mp3's on. As if anyone is going to go through that amount in just a few days... I swap my music every month or so and never seem to be a problem. I have e nearly 3000 pictures on top of that....
I'm really wondering if it's most just because people are whining then actually having issues... just because it doesn't fit their tiny little needs... Almost also seems like you want your hand held phone to replace your desktop/laptop PC... well unless they have better batteries in the future.
LTE is great don't get me wrong but unless I'm going to transfer a large file... it's disabled just because it kills the battery. With just 4G on I can get roughly 27hrs worth of juice. I'm quite happy with that.

fluxgfx said:
I can't see any trouble with the One X in anyway. Multitasking if your asking me.... I switch between 2 or 3 apps at the most. I don't do gaming with it. Mostly use it for processing capacity and some programing, emails, sms, whatsapp, im+, documents to go etc... I don't use any of the stock application and most of the stock/htc apps are disabled. I've installed what I needed to operate the phone and software. Space wise... geez I have plenty of space left 6GB left after loading nearly 120 mp3's on. As if anyone is going to go through that amount in just a few days... I swap my music every month or so and never seem to be a problem. I have e nearly 3000 pictures on top of that....
I'm really wondering if it's most just because people are whining then actually having issues... just because it doesn't fit their tiny little needs... Almost also seems like you want your hand held phone to replace your desktop/laptop PC... well unless they have better batteries in the future.
LTE is great don't get me wrong but unless I'm going to transfer a large file... it's disabled just because it kills the battery. With just 4G on I can get roughly 27hrs worth of juice. I'm quite happy with that.
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I guess your the only one on here that doesn't have a multitasking issue. Congratulations on talking down on everyone who isn't satisfied with their device. I guess my "tiny little needs" don't matter.
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Bigjim1488 said:
I guess your the only one on here that doesn't have a multitasking issue. Congratulations on talking down on everyone who isn't satisfied with their device. I guess my "tiny little needs" don't matter.
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If the way they do multitasking on this phone has any influence on the very strong battery life, then I can deal with it just fine.

robstunner said:
If the way they do multitasking on this phone has any influence on the very strong battery life, then I can deal with it just fine.
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Hey that's fine but they should give us the option under the development menu. I don't need my battery to last forever. I have an office with a phone charger. I'm not worried about getting 22+ hours of battery life.
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Bigjim1488 said:
Hey that's fine but they should give us the option under the development menu. I don't need my battery to last forever. I have an office with a phone charger. I'm not worried about getting 22+ hours of battery life.
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More options = more confusion. You must remember, we are all like experts with android phones here on xda. Usually people are still learning how to answer a phone call on day 3 of their first smart phone, let alone an android. The wonderful part about android, and this site, is that you'll get custom roms with that option sooner rather than later. If HTC decided this was the way they wanted multitasking to improve battery life, they are going to stick with it. Being able to say the phone lasts longer than an iphone to a potential buyer is much more beneficial to sales to the common person then "it multitasks better."

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More options = more confusion. You must remember, we are all like experts with android phones here on xda. Usually people are still learning how to answer a phone call on day 3 of their first smart phone, let alone an android. The wonderful part about android, and this site, is that you'll get custom roms with that option sooner rather than later. If HTC decided this was the way they wanted multitasking to improve battery life, they are going to stick with it. Being able to say the phone lasts longer than an iphone to a potential buyer is much more beneficial to sales to the common person then "it multitasks better."
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The normal user isn't going to to messing around in the dev menu option. I understand HTC and what they are doing but I can always hope and wish
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Bigjim1488 ,
Pleasure was entirely mine. Cheers.

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Bigjim1488 ,
Pleasure was entirely mine. Cheers.
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I expect nothing less out of Canada.....A.
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robstunner said:
More options = more confusion. You must remember, we are all like experts with android phones here on xda. Usually people are still learning how to answer a phone call on day 3 of their first smart phone, let alone an android. The wonderful part about android, and this site, is that you'll get custom roms with that option sooner rather than later. If HTC decided this was the way they wanted multitasking to improve battery life, they are going to stick with it. Being able to say the phone lasts longer than an iphone to a potential buyer is much more beneficial to sales to the common person then "it multitasks better."
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Very very well said...in total agreement.
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I appreciate OP for bringing up such a post, as i feel that the HTC One X is really a great phone (its actually perfect for me!)
Unlike others, i never see most of the commonly faced problems on the forum while using my One X.
Here are the reasons i like the One X
1. SCREEN : No doubt the best screen ever.
2. BUILD Quality is superb and the design is sleek which i like. I dont ming the unibody design or the non-expandable memory/battery.
3. BATTERY : My phone gets me through a day with heavy use easily and by the time i charge it for the night i usually have 30% charge remaining, thats almost 16 hrs with moderate - heavy usage ( temple run, reddit, voice calls etc etc). Also i am in an area with LTE. I hardly notice the drain in battery bcoz of LTE. (my wifi and data are on all the time)
4. CAMERA : has tonnes of options and better than most cell phone cameras today.
MULTI-TASKING : i have never faced any issue with it. if i exit the game (using home button), then it resumes back at the same point. Likewise, for the other apps.
Wi-Fi : Again, i never faced any issues, i have always received the emails etc promptly (maybe not immediately, but the delay isnt significant enough for me to worry. Maybe 2-3 mins max)
SENSE : This is the only thing i dont like on my phone. would've loved a stock ICS experience.
In the end, am extremely happy with my phone, as i feel its a beautiful premium hardware.

With custom ROM One X better than S III?

I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.

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I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.
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Within two months, you will get bored of the touchwiz ui. But one x has sense and if you like it, with a little modifications, and with custom roms, you will never get bored of your phone
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I'm kind of in the same boat. I haven't held the S3 yet so I don't know how it looks/feels in the hand. The OneX feels solid and comfortable to me. I think the OneX with a Sense-less ICS ROM would be super fast and more enjoyable. I'm leaning that way with my decision.
My HTC Sensation with Virtuous Inquisition ROM has become a much better phone
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azsamsancho said:
I am about to buy a new phone in the next month or so. I have been following the new phone release and seems like HTC One X and S III are the ones I am considering. I have had galaxy S for 2 years and it is time to upgrade.
I really like the solid design of the One X, it looks better, feels sturdier, screen is better... And my question is, if I am going to put custom ROMs on my phone, why should I choose One X over the S III (international versions)? My only strong point for the S III is the bigger battery and better contrast. But some say it is faster..
I do not care about removable battery and extra storage.
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Go for the S3. Bigger development, cm9 from people who actually build from source themselves and i would trust my life in their hands so to speak. Codeworkx and Xplowild could not get any better and really wished they supported the One X but that is not going to happen, more AOSP and AOKP roms for the S3 and you probably get the best kernel developer i know and that Gokhanmoral as well...And the list goes on. One x might be better looking but you have so much more going for the S3 which is supercurio for one releasing his app for it specially with the better sound chip for it and well i can go on..
One X is a great phone with great potential..but with all the replacements i had and with their poor service and Quality Control have left a bad taste in my mouth and will never go for HTC again...Do not get me wrong development for this phone is only just getting started..But if you are a samsung boy and loved the development on the s2 then s3 is the place to be for you..just wished i waited a bit longer
But seriously my best advice to you..Wait a few more weeks. Watch videos and watch comparisons...And then make a judgement on yourself on what you need the phone for. Sense is ten times better than TW no doubt. But like i said take your time and do your research..And if you do go for the One X make sure you get a phone which is build like a gold phone..Make sure it is perfect and solid..Then you will not regret it

Real world speed is the same. Both have minor flaws and particular strengths. For me, the s3 is less aestheticaly pleasing (read:yuk) and the screen has a pink hue on greys, I can't stand touch wiz and I dislike the unrealistic colours on amoled screens.

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Real world speed is the same. Both have minor flaws and particular strengths. For me, the s3 is less aestheticaly pleasing (read:yuk) and the screen has a pink hue on greys, I can't stand touch wiz and I dislike the unrealistic colours on amoled screens.
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I agree I had a go on the one x saw sense and the shell and was like I want it! Glad I did as I dislike the look of the s3 not that it is ugly or anything hox just appeals to me more.
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I say its better even with Stock Rom

The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..

azsamsancho said:
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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Then get the one x. I'm very happy with mine no problems.
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The HOX looks far better, the bluey coloured SIII looks very cheap, and to me the proportions look wrong on the front - weird angle curves, and too much bezel at top and bottom.
AMOLED provides less than realistic colours, if its anything like the SII and youre used to a properly calibrated TV/PC Monitor you'll laugh.
Having had a pentile display phone before the One X (Droid 3) no matter what the PPI youre going to notice the Pentile matrix on font and icon edges if you have the screen relatively close to your face, like when you're reading it in bed or something. Minor niggle but it annoyed me. Reading on the One X is like reading a magazine, it looks printed on.
The only positive for me is the bigger battery, but in real world usage i.e. Web Browsing itll only offer you about 40 mins more according to GSM Arena due to the high draw of the AMOLED display on white. Video life is about 4 hours longer, though. Saying that, if you have time to watch a video you'd be in a situation where you could use HTC's small battery bank to see you through it on the one x and have battery left to play with on a flight or long outing (should have a car charger so incar use wouldn't be an issue).
Regarding the above, GSMArena's battery life tests are very unscientific. The One X's display is among the brightest, and far brighter than the SII (double brightness nearly) so if the SIII is the same, the battery life at similar brightness to the One X's default levels would be negligable in texting/browsing/everyday use, again, bar video playback.
There is also the element of standing from the crowd a little - the One X is in my opinion (and many reviewers) the best looking phone to date - It matters to me to enjoy looking at something I use so often, so it helps.
Custom ROMS will come as well, its a major device with global variants so CM9 support will come I'd assume.
As far as build goes, I have sent one back but only because I'm very picky and the screen gap on the left was a tiny bit too much for my liking but I'm pretty sure 75% of the people on the replacement threads have got OCD with the number of replacements theyre having, or they use their phones punishingly. I didnt have flicker after the latest OTA either. The flex is the major issue regarding build, but my Dad's iPhone has the same thing if you press on the edges of the screens, every phone has it.
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azsamsancho said:
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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Im a fairly heavy user and the battery is great for me.
Streaming radio/and mp3 is all done with the companion core for example and with screen off the battery graph is basically flat even whilst streaming over HSPA for a good while.
I can get 4/4hr30 web browsing and if you think about it, you don't need any more than that - with any phone nowadays youre looking at an overnight charge really so it makes no odds whether that number is a bit less or a bit more.
The browser redraw is instantaneous, and looks good - the text fades and fades back as an effect rather than jerking all the text round like opera - you dont notice the time it takes.
Multitasking Fix This may be of great use - it was to me on my Droid 3 and I noticed weird settings posted on here in HTC's default Build.prop that explain IMO the memory Issues people are perceiving.
Multitasking can easily be fixed in build prop. Some of the default HTC settings baffle me. Or use RomToolbox by JRummy
Ive not rooted yet but on my D3 (512mb ram) I used dirty ratio 70% (HOX default is 0%....!) Dirty background 90% (Hox default is 30%) and vfs cache pressure 10. Hox default is 100. This makes android flush the cache less often, saving battery and eliminating stutter, keeps apps in background ram leaving you where you left off and doesn't negatively impact on battery life or degrade performance over time. I've no idea why the HOX's default settings are so aggressive - unless they thought users might get an errant app, leave it running and complain when they dont know why the battery is draining... kill OOM allocating task was also a yes.
On my Droid 3 with the above settings, I could infinitely multitask (VM Heap of 48mb - but on HOX you could easily double that for more tabs in browser etc) and my battery gained a perceived time of about an hour at least - maybe more, due to the apps always remaining open and CPU time not having to be used reopening them and redrawing the past state they were in because theyve been pushed out of RAM.
I researched the above for ages when I had my D3 (even with 512 ram Moto's settings were way less aggressive than HTC's are at default) and made sure they wouldn't cause lag over time, or loss of performance over time - as well as providing optimal battery life.
Finally!
If you're planning on keeping the phone for some time (I can't see much that can improve on this, heck I wouldnt have got rid of my D3 had i not bricked it!) HTC are very good with software updates, the best around on unbranded devices really. They've just listed devices to recieve ICS - and those included some devices that were 18 Months old with a single core processor. This would suggest to me the One X will not only get Jelly Bean, but probably the next iteration (Released end of summer/fall 2013 most likely), should the hardware requirements not change massively (although 1gb RAM and Quad Core looks pretty safe for 18 months IMO).

azsamsancho said:
The truth is i am bored with my samsung galaxy S... so if i get the S III will be the same feeling. I always though HTC phones look sexier and simply better.. but looking at some reviews a couple of things scare me. For example, when browsing the way it redraws while zooming; multitasking when switching programs also redraws.. the small battery also does not give me great confidence..
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I myself am coming from a galaxy s. Not sure how much the amoled screen is worse than the s2 on the s1 in comparison. I do know,however, that this super LCD2 screen on my htc one x is a thing that's going to be difficult to leave should I ever have to decide between this phone or a super amoled phone in the future.
Browsing-wise: I think we are all going to end up using google chrome in the long run. With the updates it gets, i believe it's sooner or later going to be the browser everyone's going to replace their original browser with.
I personally use google chrome browser on my phone myself. It's much faster than other IMO. Especially loading time is amazing and super smooth.
Battery is debatable. Personally, I wish i could squeeze an hour more hour out of my phone. On a full use I easily hit the 3 hours mark screen on time(3h 10m~). Probably just like most One X owners. Depending on your phone usage though, it's safe to say that the battery life on the HTC One X on standy by is godlike Seen people go for 4 days.
The highest i have reached was 3 hours 31 minutes. I think i could have even exceeded that by now but i just don't bother anymore and plug the phone in before it depletes.
It gets me through a day with ease plus i don't know what htc is up to. As far as I know this phone still needs optimization(take what i say with a grain of salt on this part). As I have no idea if the battery is going to improve in future or not. Just my gut feeling tells me it is, but a gut feeling is just that, a gut feeling. I wish HTC would at least communicate with us users more. Really kind of disappointing on their part.
Oh well, this is the insight i'm capable of giving.
p.s: i'm not one of those users who had to send his phone in for multiple replacements. So yeah, i can understand the users who do suggest the S3 for alone that reason. Because we all just want a phone that functions and don't want to constantly have it replaced just to replace it again.
Good day!

Any possible enhancements from ROMs or Kernels for the HOX will also come out for the S3 so you're best looking at them stock vs stock and decide that way IMO.

mardon85 said:
Any possible enhancements from ROMs or Kernels for the HOX will also come out for the S3 so you're best looking at them stock vs stock and decide that way IMO.
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Yeah! This is actually true as well. Considering the fact that SG3 has got more support. Or at least that's what I always read and i don't doubt it. Probably a customized rom for the gs3 will be running better than the one x's.

Other negatives for the HOX include quality control with the screen flex and squeeky noises at least thats what I get!
With s-on am currently locked down so am having to wait for the network provider to bring about all the fixes in the updates unless I use custom roms but then I can't change the radio etc due to s-on..... Would be great if the phone was cracked in that sense.
Also the soundchip is not that great, could be better.
Battery is bad for me due to being on older firmware so screen on time is about 2hrs and the battery is dead.....
Currently sent mine back to htc due to hardware issues.....

I would wait to see the SIII however i cant't see samsung moving away from using inferior plastic for the shell. This spoils everything.
Also, the cool software will be ported shortly therefore I can't see a reason for choosing the SIII over the HOX. It's all about feeling in the hand........

Sense is very beautiful! And i like the style of htc phones look like

I think i need to wait till S III is available near me and check it out how it feels. reviewers say it feels better than the HOX due to the curved edges...

Its a matter of choice. Both HTC and samsung stock UIs are horrible in my eyes. The main differentiating factor is the more powerful CPU in the galaxy s3, expandable memory and removable/better battery. Its downsides are the pentile display and cheap look.
Both will come with many custom ROMS so flashing a custom rom holds no advantage for the one X

If your getting the HTC ONE X over the Galaxy S3 get ready for some poor battery life

Don't know what you guys expect with battery life on the one x to be honest, I love my HOX , I can run it with several phone calls and texts, bit of browsing on here, read books daily and usually get a couple days out of the battery, yes, if you hammer it with games like riptide, then be prepared for it to eat battery, but I imagine that will be no different on any quad core phone
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T Mobile - One S over GS3 Help me guys!

I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!

1. No
2. 2 days for me
3. Yes
4. No
5. Yes, never tried it
6. Never tried it

1. No, there is about 250MB free on stock from what I remember. The larger issue is HTC's changes to multitasking. I question whether the 1GB of RAM would be enough 2 years from now though.
2. Easily 1 full day of moderate usage.
3. Yes
4. No, not really. It seems to have better coverage than some of the other phones you can buy from TMO. I dropped a call while using WiFi calling (the whole network connection dropped out), but I don't think it is a phone issue. I think TMO needs to work on their WiFi calling software.
5. Yes, 2 or 3 of them... sigh
6. idk

rakeshchn said:
I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all.

KillaHurtz said:
The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all.
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The front facing camera is TERRIBLE... but overall I think the One S is pretty awesome. Wish it had 2GB of ram though... but I'm happy with it.

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The front facing camera is TERRIBLE... but overall I think the One S is pretty awesome. Wish it had 2GB of ram though... but I'm happy with it.
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I had it for all of 2 weeks, couldn't hack the super low storage space, non removable battery, pentile screen......and that god awful VGA. What a joke. Processor is top notch and the back is sexy, but over all it seems like Sensation 3.0 (2.0 was the Amaze fyi). After having 4.5" of samoled plus expandable storage and removable battery I immediately went back to Sammy. Got myself a Note and haven't regretted it. The GS3 is my next phone for sure when the price gouging goes down.

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I had it for all of 2 weeks, couldn't hack the super low storage space, non removable battery, pentile screen......and that god awful VGA. What a joke. Processor is top notch and the back is sexy, but over all it seems like Sensation 3.0 (2.0 was the Amaze fyi). After having 4.5" of samoled plus expandable storage and removable battery I immediately went back to Sammy. Got myself a Note and haven't regretted it. The GS3 is my next phone for sure when the price gouging goes down.
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Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27052484&postcount=6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
Pointing out the VGA as a weakness means nothing at all.

Good for you KillaHurtz, enjoy your note and your new GS 3 when you get it and have lots of fun with the superior front camera, most important feature right there!
Us HTC one S owners will enjoy our superior processor (for performance per core, better power efficiency and far less heat produced), superior build and perceived quality, not to mention looks and design.......... superior android skin, superior main camera for photos and features in the camera and gallery etc. and better battery life etc.
In anandtechs review of the USA version of the GS 3, which has the S4, the one S and the XL whips its ass in the majority of benchmarks!
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Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
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haha
Anyway, moving on:
rakeshchn said:
guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
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1. I have disabled a ton of apps, which are not necessary and have no problems with multi-tasking, however, when switching from a game or some demanding app back to the browser, tabs do reload
2. There are plenty of threads on battery life here and plenty of screenshots of my usage for my review of the 1S (link in sig) and throughout that thread, to sum it up, amazing the best there is
3. Very well, GPS locks on very quick for me (UK, N.I.), never properly used navigation but it does seem to work fine when I have quickly tried it out, if you aren't satisfied you can get tom tom or some other navigation app
4. As shown in that post above of mine linked by big_den, none whatsoever
5. Can't comment on t-mobile version but the international version we have a FM radio and it only works when headphones are plugged in
6. You can see my mini review of a standard generic MHL adapter below. It appears though that the refresh rate is a bug, as it only has a 24Hz refresh rate, however, a guy here modded a kernel so that the resolution is dropped to 720P and 60Hz refresh rate iirc.
Basically you go for the GS 3 if you want this stuff:
- better and bigger screen
- more storage
- NFC
- better community for custom ROMs etc.
- much better 1080P recording
Go for the one S if you want this stuff:
- far better out of the box experience, sense is much nicer to use and has great apps e.g. the dialer, gallery, calendar, camera etc. which can't be matched by 3rd party apps
- better battery life
- far better looks/design and build/perceived quality
- better camera for photos and features overall
In the real world, performance is more or less the same really.
EDIT:
Just realised you were talking about the USA versions, in that case the GPU and CPU is the same as the S, adreno 225 and S4
However, as I mentioned above the S whips the GS 3 that has the S4 etc. in the majority of stuff, so sense appears to be far better optimized than touchwiz regarding that.

Terminator19 said:
Basically you go for the GS 3 if you want this stuff:
- far better GPU
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All US GS3 versions use the S4 MSM8960 which has the same GPU as the One S has (Adreno 225). In fact, graphics performance should be better on the One S as it's driving a smaller screen.
And to answer the OP:
1) Not really. Browser does reload from time to time but I've never had Sense reloads like I did on the Sensation.
2) Good in my experience - should be at least a day if not more.
3) Yes.
4) Not in my experience.
5) Yes. Worked with my usual headphones as well as old iPod ones.
6) Never tried it.

Yeah, I just noticed that he meant the USA versions and always keep forgetting about these mobiles having different hardware in different parts of the world
And yup, the one S (even the XL, which has the same res.) whips the GS 3 s4 version.......
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...axy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants
So just shows that sense must be better optimized than touchwiz overall here.

Big_Den said:
Didnt you say the same thing in this thread? And then got your ass handed to you on a plate?
Pointing out the VGA as a weakness means nothing at all.
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Not quite sure how that was having my ass handed to me. The guy said he doesn't use the FFC, with faceunlock a good front facing camera is key. I also take a ton of pics with my friends that way, and all this coming from a n00b mean ****e you toothless bloke.
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Good for you KillaHurtz, enjoy your note and your new GS 3 when you get it and have lots of fun with the superior front camera, most important feature right there!
Us HTC one S owners will enjoy our superior processor (for performance per core, better power efficiency and far less heat produced), superior build and perceived quality, not to mention looks and design.......... superior android skin, superior main camera for photos and features in the camera and gallery etc. and better battery life etc.
In anandtechs review of the USA version of the GS 3, which has the S4, the one S and the XL whips its ass in the majority of benchmarks!
haha
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Well I also pointed out the pentile display which is gross, and the signal issue which there is tons of threads about. The One S and GS3 are similar to how the Sensation & GS2 T989 were related. Same processor, but the Sensation suffered from signal issues, lag and a poor FFC. Sense, whether you like it or not takes a lot of resources. FACT. The GS2 with the same exact processor performed leaps and bounds better and I have no doubt the GS3 is the same way this time around. I have owned all said devices, so this is not speculation or some bloggers paid opinion. The fact that you said US HTC One S users will have a superior processor.......umm how if it's the exact same one within the GS3?, 2gb of RAM sounds superior to me. Multitasking is a pain on the One S (one again, I have owned it) it can't even switch back to a webpage without having to reload. The One S may perform marginally better on an outdated & pixelated screen with crippled expansion abilities. Take that to the bank fanboys. Fail harder next time please
It all comes down to preference.
HTC always makes gorgeous exteriors that usually cause signal issues & they take forever to release source (Has is been yet?) Better build quality sure, but at the cost of performance?
Sense is super intensive on RAM and CPU and runs super deep into the android framework.
Samsung makes lighter, usually polycarbonate bodies to reduce weight and make them easier to replace. Signal has never been an issue with me on a Galaxy phone because of this design. Samsung released source code for the GS3 before the phone was officially released. CYANOGEN himself works for Samsung into helping them make the most cutting edge, efficient, and powerful coding for software.

I also have used the face camera unlock and have had no problems with it whatsoever Doesn't work in pitch black obviously but every time I unlock the device, the screen is also unlocked straight away. Take the ugly mask off
In your opinion the display is gross, not my opinion and same for many others, have shown everyone of my friends and family the display and they have been very impressed with it, one of the first things that they comment on.
Again, just because there are ton of threads where people are stating an issue doesn't mean that it applies to everyone.......... Many people only voice there opinions when something goes wrong and never any positives. And we only make up a very small % of owners for the S on this forum.
Again, you seem to be ignoring the screenshots in my post that I addressed these issues again, no problems with resources regarding RAM etc. as I have shown with the task manager. And if it really was hogging resources then please explain why the battery life is so great (for the S and XL) and outmatches the GS 3 S4 version despite the GS 3 having the bigger battery?????? So it musn't be FACT
Again what a strange observation you make, because I have had the GS 2 on stock ICS right beside my stock S and the performance was far better in everything, everything was just more instant and even my friend who owns the GS 2 said the exact same and the majority of people who have upgraded from the GS 2 to the S.
go and try loading a page full of gifs and see what comes out on top between the S, GS 2 and note.
Wrong again, people who have the S and GS 3 have said that both are just the same overall, the GS 3 is slightly smoother but in terms of raw speed, more or less the same. I also have had the 2 side by side and they are the same pretty much, GS 3 smoother but not by much.
Likewise! (not owned but plenty of time with the top end devices) and also these opinions are coming from other forums and these guys have owned every device there is and to just show good the S is, this one guy usually upgrades his mobile to the latest and greatest and sells the old one to fund it, but guess what, he didn't, he kept both the S and GS 3 because he loves the S sooo much as well, he didn't want to get rid of it and the only reason he is sticking with the GS 3 is due to storage, shocker!
Hmm, you obviously didn't read the post properly? Either that or you are a bit dumb and can't read I was talking about your note as well.........
And once again, in the benchmarks according to anandtech the one S is far superior to the GS 3 S4 version. "Sense not as well optimized and hogs resources"...........lol
Tell me where 2GB of RAM will be useful?
Sir, I think everyone knows who has failed here particularly after this, "The One S is ****e m8" and it most certainly isn't me or anyone else in this thread, but YOU, so back to the note/GS 3 threads where you belong
And the only one who is a fanboy here, is you
I wonder why all the review sites particularly gsmarena who are quite harsh on everything apart from the flagship devices spoke so highly of the S
Again, signal issues........I have no problems, but you seem to have ignored my post with screenshots showing that as usual
Yes the kernel source has been released for quite a while now.
You obviously didn't look at the anandtechs review as usual
Again, you obviously haven't seen my battery life screenshots and anandtechs review, if something is so intrusive and resource hungry then why does it perform better, why does it get better battery life?
LOL you have failed once again, the one S is lighter by a fair bit compared to the GS 3 and thinner hahahaha
Also polycarbonate bodies............emmmm they use cheap ass glossy plastic which makes the phone look like a cheap fisher price toy, the X/XL uses polycarbonate body.
Again no issues with signal here for me.
What a surprise the community is better than the one S.........I couldn't give a rats ass about the kernel source or ROMs etc. as I have no intentions of rooting the one S or flashing a custom ROM because it is PERFECT for ME.
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"toothless bloke" bahahahahaha, are you like 12 or something?
And it is quite clear that you are the noob!

Terminator19, you said what most people on this forum think, but in the most eloquent way. At the end of the day, this guy bought the S and had a bad experience. Even though thousands users and people in the industry disagree. Good that he likes his Note and all the best for his GS3.

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Hmm, you obviously didn't read the post properly? Either that or you are a bit dumb and can't read I was talking about your note as well.........
You keep comparing the One S to phones that carry the S3 processor, why ?
And the only one who is a fanboy here, is you
I'm an Android Fanboy, you got me there. I had had all HTC devices until the GS2 T989 (so from 2008 to October 2011)
Again, signal issues........I have no problems, but you seem to have ignored my post with screenshots showing that as usual
I think it's great when people don't experience those issues that plague a device.
Yes the kernel source has been released for quite a while now.
Great the device has been out and devs were flatout pissed about HTCs GPL compliance
Again, you obviously haven't seen my battery life screenshots and anandtechs review, if something is so intrusive and resource hungry then why does it perform better, why does it get better battery life?
Once again this is relative and I never mentioned battery life as a factor. When I had my One S I wasn't impressed compared to my T989. Yes the One S should get better battery life as the processor is optimized for it
LOL you have failed once again, the one S is lighter by a fair bit compared to the GS 3 and thinner hahahaha
Never said the GS3 was lighter or thinner m8
Also polycarbonate bodies............emmmm they use cheap ass glossy plastic which makes the phone look like a cheap fisher price toy, the X/XL uses polycarbonate body.
Once again they do use polycarbonate, maybe you should look up what that actually is. Some people like shiny things
What a surprise the community is better than the one S.........I couldn't give a rats ass about the kernel source or ROMs etc. as I have no intentions of rooting the one S or flashing a custom ROM because it is PERFECT for ME.
Why are you on a developers site then?
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You also mentioned the One S can load a pageful of .gifs faster than a Note or GS2, big surprise there bro. That's like comparing a Mustang to a Ferrari, of course the One S beats those at a totally useless test. You are comparing last years technology to one that is cutting edge. Of course the benchmarks are gonna be higher for the One S, it's running a smaller & lower rez screen. If were to run the same hardware on a 2" screen I would dust the One S by double. Kudos on the astonishing, non pertinent info which showcases your lack of how technology actually works. Kudos.

Big_Den said:
Terminator19, you said what most people on this forum think, but in the most eloquent way. At the end of the day, this guy bought the S and had a bad experience. Even though thousands users and people in the industry disagree. Good that he likes his Note and all the best for his GS3.
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Yeah, I usually don't post too much "defending" the phone especially "attacking" other phones etc. but it is getting tiring and irritating seeing the same posts by the same couple of people (think we all know who the other one is ) who keep posting the same xxxx in every thread where someone asks about the one S vs xxx or the pros and cons etc. and thinking that it applies to every single S there is and therefore the mobile is **** etc. etc.
Indeed, I have no problems with him liking a different mobile etc. just don't see the point of trashing the phone in it's own sub-forum when he had a bad experience.

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Yeah, I usually don't post too much "defending" the phone especially "attacking" other phones etc. but it is getting tiring and irritating seeing the same posts by the same couple of people (think we all know who the other one is ) who keep posting the same xxxx in every thread where someone asks about the one S vs xxx or the pros and cons etc. and thinking that it applies to every single S there is and therefore the mobile is **** etc. etc.
Indeed, I have no problems with him liking a different mobile etc. just don't see the point of trashing the phone in it's own sub-forum when he had a bad experience.
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I'm not trashing anything dude, these are simple facts that people may be overlooking. Someone asked a legitimate question and I am answering it with real world experience. I loved the One S to be honest, great camera, great form factory and benches that would make the android horsepower gurus drool.
Believe me I was sold, I actually bought it I liked it so much. I'm only providing a balanced view of things, and while my attitude may seem crude, the facts are not. This is a forum where people who sometimes have no insight of these products look to users/owners for advice. I am trying to provide that from an actual, non biased place. Sorry if it seems otherwise, sincerely.
I gave up my One S because it didn't seem like much of an upgrade. I am one of the dudes that has his phone filled with .FLACs, and full movies for my 3 year old daughter. I am what I would consider a power user and most times need an extra battery to get me thru the day. I hate being plugged in and hate streaming from a cloud because most of the time it reduces the quality of music, which defeats my extensive .FLAC library. That, and the fact that I travel to places in my state where coverage isn't so great. Was it a bad experience, no. I love HTC, this particular device I had to let go because it didn't fit my lifestyle, that's it.

I am not just comparing the phone to the phones that have the S3 chip.......I am comparing it to every other phone there is and the S4 is superior to every CPU even the quad in the GS 3 and X, not just for raw speed per core but also heat and power efficiency as well.
No you didn't but you keep saying about sense being a huge resource hog, however, how can it be if the one S and XL get great battery life if RAM and CPU is being hogged? Just like an app, which doesn't close when required and will hog resources and drain battery life. Granted the S4 helps a lot but even still if resources are being hogged then the battery life wouldn't be as good, also if sense was such a huge hog then the battery life would be nowhere as good and the one S is better than the GS 3 S4 version for battery life, and you said that touchwiz is far lighter and better optimized than sense, once again why would the battery life be worse on the GS 3 and better on the S etc.? (and yes I know the screen is bigger and higher res. on the GS 3 but the bigger battery makes up for that and the XL is still better anyway.
Also the hardware is crap/pointless if the software/drivers aren't optimized for it.
You said lighter
"Samsung makes lighter, usually polycarbonate bodies to reduce weight and make them easier to replace."
Yes it is polycarbonate, however, they ruin the true feel/look of it by having that hyperglaze/glossy finish to it.
This site isn't solely for discussion of ROM's, tweaks etc. but also discussion of apps, general stuff like accessories and useful info. on certain stuff.
Well, yes I used that comparison because you said this:
"The GS2 with the same exact processor performed leaps and bounds better"
Not really a useless test, well for me anyway, as I am a heavy web browser and a random gif thread is one of the many threads that I visit daily, so would like them to be smooth rather than a slideshow.
I didn't compare just the S and GS 3, but also the XL, which does have the same res. as the GS 3.
Again, I think you will find that everything is connected and thus all of my post has perfectly suited your points. It isn't just a simple oh processor better therefore that is better etc.
Right you go and say that in your last post and then you say this at the beginning of the thread:
"The One S is ****e m8, you get what you pay for. One S has a VGA front facing camera dude, that should say it all."
Also I am not bias to the S at all, I have stated that there are faults/weak areas many times and in my review of the S as well:
Cons:
No NFC
No SD card slot and limited internal storage
Non-removable battery
Uses a pentile matrix instead of RGB
Notification LED isn't great
However, most of those things don't bother me too much, if at all now, the only thing that really bothers me is the NLED.
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Not only that but if you are wanting to give people advice on the S since you have owned it, then why didn't you answer the OP questions instead of just saying that one line, which isn't true as you just stated in your last post there pretty much and he didn't ask about the front camera at all.
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Also considering you stated there that you put flacs and films etc. on your mobiles, surely you should have known that was going to be an issue with the S in the first place then???

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I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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1. Yes. It's a major issue with One X as well. I usually do a lot of browsing and have at least 3 tabs open and every time I switch to any other app (eg. Messaging) and go back to browser, it just reloads. This is ridiculous because sometimes I am typing something on the webpage before switching and I lose everything. Even xda app reloads after switching to messaging. I am thinking of getting GSIII because of this issue. I know I can root and get a custom Rom to make this work but again this is an expensive phone and such a trivial feature of android should work out of the box!
2. 1 day with gmail, 2 other personal emails, gvoice and a lot of browsing.
3. Yes
4. Yes. It's ironic that I never had any dropped calls with my older phones Amaze, MT4GS.
5. Never tried
6. Never tried. Sorry.
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rakeshchn said:
I was waiting to upgrade to Galaxy S3 on Tmobile from Vibrant. But they shocked me with the price ($280 after MIR, when One S is available at retailers for $180) and also I didnt like they removed FM tuner and Wolfenson dac from all US variants. I am looking towards One S now and would appreciate if you guys can answer some questions. I am familiar with flashing roms so if some of these are addressed by custom roms let me know guys
1) Does One S suffer from insuffcient ram issues like browser reloading pages when app swichting, launcher suspended from memory etc
2) Hows is the battery life for normal use (autosync on for gmail, FB etc and moderate use like browsing, few txts and calls).
3) Does GPS perform well for location based services and navigation
4) Are there signal strength issues, drpped calls etc when there is sufficint network
5) Is there FM tuner on Tmobile version and does it work with any headphones
6) Are there issues with MHL video out interms of resolution, refresh rate etc when hooking up with HDTVs and how is surround sound working
Thanks in advance!!
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1. I suffer from Wifi error after a system upgrade and now auto-reset after replacing a new one from Costco. But other things work pretty fine
2.less than 1 day
3.Yes, work quite well. But it eats a lot of battery
4.Sometimes drop calls.Also there are some 4G signal issues while using it indoor. But not as worst as Sensation 4G
5. Yes, there are FM tuner.
6. MHL work quite fine. I tested it on a 24" no-speaker-moniter. So don't know how it sounds like.
I suggest that you should wait for a GSIII instead, it will be a lot more better than One S. Replacable battery, upgradable memory(support up to 64 GB micro-SD card) , large battery(that's 2100mAh Vs. 1650mAh HTC One S), and also 2GB of ram(that's HTC One S 's double!!). But it will use Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor instead of quad-core, which means same as HTC One S. The only good thing about HTC One S is good camera, the brilliant HTC Sense 4.0, beats audio, extremly thin and light weight.
PS: If my One S suffer from annoying auto-restarting, can I just return the phone to Costco and grab a GS III??

One S is the best bang for your buck right now in the US. Although i wonder if we are gonna get 4.1 quickly since it looks like a minor upgrade.

Spread the good word of our oneS

I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app

Roundtableprez said:
I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
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What's so amazing about this phone?

louis.b said:
What's so amazing about this phone?
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
Fastest android mobile currently
IMO sense V4
Regarding the first post, developers won't go by "user reviews" on shop sites, they will look into all the hardware detail and kernel source/drivers/software stuff etc. and if they like what they see then they will buy it.

Terminator19 said:
Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
Terminator19 said:
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
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Agreed, and now that they seem to have done something about the metal arc oxidation issues its build quality is great.
Terminator19 said:
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
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Yes, yes and yes, the Beats gimmick aside the regular audio output is of very good quality as GSMArena's measurements show. Camera is a delight to use, although the S3 version has a small buffer lag between shots. Battery life, surprisingly, seems to be very similar between the S3 and S4 models.
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Fastest android mobile currently
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The S4 version yes, the S3 version no.
IMO sense V4
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Yes, Sense 4 is really good, better than TouchWiz although I suspect most people on XDA prefer stock Android if it means faster updates
Personally, I think the One S was a really good phone when it launched, but the change to the S3 processor has changed my view of the model significantly; it is still a good phone for what it is but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.

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What's so amazing about this phone?
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Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.

I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c

kenyw said:
Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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Completely agree about that with regards to the S3 version.
Regarding the battery and speed, I thought it was the other way round (in real world usage), battery much worse and performance isn't as good but for standard usage like games etc. there isn't a huge difference.
Doesn't help when no one has posted any info. on the battery of the S3 though i.e. screen shots and detailed info..........

jmcdonald58 said:
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.

matt310 said:
^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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Recoveries come from our local friendly developers if your recovery is a mess contact them it is no way htcs fault. I love this phone despite no s-off. And that's okay for me lol we will steal it from the Onex one day lol.
For the new radios and your crackling problem, most unlocked android devices have this issue when you unlock them I have a sidekick 4g on att right now and this on tmob and there is a compareable difference
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app

I absolutely love this device. I had the choice between the one s and the s3 and chose this one and am really pleased. It fits my hands perfectly and outperforms most devices. The battery life is unparalleled. I average 4 to 6 hours on screen time while some friends with s3's only get 2 hours with power saving on. The lack of s off is little annoying but not that big of a deal for me since my hboot is so low. As for the people spreading negative reviews in hopes to "teach HTC a lessons" this is a horrible approach. Operation rolling thunder should be stopped!!
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium

Terminator19 said:
And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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Just wanted to mention that on Tuesday 11/09/2012 i received my nice new htc one s from talktalk.co.uk ( run on vodafone network) and it is a Z560e model (Ville C aka S3) version, personally i am not to bothered but figured worth mention for anyone who maybe intrested in UK

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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.

My One S
My S one is about 5 months old. After years as a Nokia fan-boy I finally gave in and reluctantly jumped ship. So I was presented with a problem: Which phone do I get. I won't be taking up a place in a queue for the new iPhone 5 with the iSheep - as a Ubuntu user getting an android was a no-brainer. I chose the One S because 1/ it wasn't Samsung (my personal prejudice) 2/ the One X was slightly too big for my taste.
I know Nokia missed a very big boat by sticking with Symbian for so long, but on a personal level I was happy because I know them inside out I can mod them easily and enjoyed playing about with them despite the limitations. In fact the limitations made it more of a challenge and more interesting.Eventually the lack of progress Symbian was making, combined with the fact that Nokia jumped in to bed with Micros*#t forced my hand. So to be honest, I waited for T-Mobile to deliver my One S with very little enthusiasm. That's changed. I love my One S.
So as it's my first Android I can't say its any better or worse than a Galaxy III, a WildFire or a Nexus. I do know that I am very happy with it. On the hardware side I am happy about the lovely big screen, the slim casing and the nice finish. I am very happy with the processor speed and flawless screen refresh. Battery life could be better, but I will never be happy with battery life. Software wise, I am happy that there are people out there making ROMs which while flawed are keeping me very busy and making me feel like I have a new phone every week or so. I am happy that I have a JB based ROM while HTC has yet to release the "official" JB for the One S.
Which is all a long winded way of saying I love it.

avetny said:
? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
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Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
matt310 said:
Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!

Terminator19 said:
Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
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Wow! Terminator 1 - troll 0 :good:

Closed Source Project said:
Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.

laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.

pookipsy said:
laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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Biased? lol yeah right I dont even own those phones. And to say that sense 4.0 is smoother than Touchcrap 4.0 and iOS5 is just outright lying. Yes it's smoother than sense 3.0 but it's still laggy and I have been following the One X long enough to know that A LOT OF people complain about how laggy sense 4.0 was.
And FYI people dont ask about HTC not because HTC doesnt advertise enough. As a matter of fact a lot people know about them. They just dont buy them because HTC has the reputation of making buggy phones. And as a former owner of 2 HTC phones I cant say I disagree.

louis.b said:
Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
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You got an S3, didn't you? I'm sorry about that and have been quite out-spoken about HTC's idiotic behavior regarding other countries, but the S4 One S is a great piece of machinery.

I have never had on hands experience with the S3 version so can't comment on it, however, when I have had my S4 one S side by side with the GS 3 (quad) and the 4s, the one S has been quicker/snappier/instant smartphone and the GS 3 appears smoother overall, although this is largely down to the animations and the animation scaling used, when JB arrives on both phones there should be no difference at all then really, in terms of smoothness.
I have found the 4s/4 to be laggy in quite a few places personally and not as silky smooth as what many people make it out to be.
Also, the one X hardware (tegra 3) was very poorly optimized with sense/ICS, when the mobile was first released, it was so laggy and nowhere as instant as the one S (S4), since the last update it has improved somewhat, however, still not as good as the S (S4) and GS 3, with JB it should be much better as the nexus 7 has the exact same hardware and it is smoother and faster than both the GS 3 and S, of course assuming HTC don't **** up with driver optimisation on sense Vxx whatever it will be with JB.
Regarding why people don't get HTC handsets, yes for some reason people seem to think they're an awful company with poor phones, I would have agreed with some of their phones (largely the desire HD, IMO their worst phone), however, most of their phones (especially the one series) are actually very good and out of the people I know who have a HTC android device have been very happy with theirs and not had any problems (a lot of people absolutely love sense, the homescreen and widgets impresses the "average joes" a lot). And it does largely come down to marketing/brand in the end, as in the UK here, the majority of ads that I see on TV, posters on bus stops etc. is for the GS 3, iphone, GS 2, galaxy ACE & Ace 2 (the Ace mobiles are bundled with very good network deals though, the ads aren't actually for the phones themselves) along with a few for the one X and virtually no ads at all for the one S (still have not seen a single ad on TV for the one S), people automatically recognise the GS 3 and iphones where as with the likes of HTC phones people aren't sure about them and automatically think they aren't good since they never heard of them.
It is a shame because HTC did start the "empire" of android with the hero, desire and nexus one, dread to think where android would be now if it weren't for them.