[Q] Samsung Captivate or G2 - General Topics

I have the chance to get a new phone, and I have decided its going to be between the G2 and the Samsung Captivate. I'm on the AT&T network, and I'm probably not gonna have data, so the speeds of data and 2G/3G network speeds shouldn't be that much of a factor. I did research on them and both of them seem pretty good but I'm not sure which of the two I should actually get.
I do text a lot so the keyboard on the G2 would be a little helpful, but the Captivate has that nice Super AMOLED screen. I do however plan to be doing a lot with the phone, like rooting it, so please keep that in mind as well.
What would some of you suggest? Any help would be great. Thanks.

Captivate.

Don't know much about the g2 but I do currently own a captivate and its a great phone very easy too root and install roms. I would start from there research which one is easier too root and which ones have the best roms and what not.
Never was a big fan of a physical keyboard. so I can tell you that the typing on the captivate is pretty accurate. Also the screen is bigger! Lol but enough about my bias opinion just find out the hacking capabilities of both as well and go from there
But to make a long story short like the guy ahead of me.
Captivate FTW
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If you plan to stick with the stock ROM then get the G2. Otherwise, get the Captivate. With a custom ROM the Galaxy S phones blow all the others away.

Both are great phones, but I think all of the people recommending the Captivate are forgetting that the G2 is sort of 'future-proof' in that it has HSDPA+ built in for T-Mobile's kinda-sorta 4G network. It's really up to you if you think you'd need that.
Another question to ask yourself is do you need a physical keyboard or not. And finally, which phone do you prefer as of right now?

Well I'm not really sure about the physical keyboard, if the touch keyboard thats on the Captivate is good, then I guess I wouldn't really need the physical keyboard. I also remember hearing that it has Swype on it as well, so I dunno if Swype is actually faster than a physical keyboard or not. The 4G connectivity would be good, but I don't have T-Mobile so it doesn't really apply to me all that much

Do you require a keyboard or have a lot to gain from having one? If so, htc Vision is your best bet in the market right now.
Otherwise, save your money because single core processors will be phased out in a matter of months.

Pickx said:
Do you require a keyboard or have a lot to gain from having one? If so, htc Vision is your best bet in the market right now.
Otherwise, save your money because single core processors will be phased out in a matter of months.
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Its funny you say that they are coming out with dual core processors but still using the same battery as single core. So imagine how fast the battery will fade on you. On top of that the price of the phone will almost double. So I give em late 4th quarter 2011 before these phone will actually blow up.
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The G2 is the fastest (other than games... its close tho) with a little overclocking, and has a clearer, smaller but less bright screen. I wish I had that extra .3" sometimes. Physical keyboard is sweet, but I can type near as well with the on screen keyboard on the galaxy s'. They also have a better vibrate-on-keypress. Did I mention that this phone is fast? Stuff just does what you tell it.
Also, I know this is just the general forum but the dual core info... I wouldn't believe much of it

If you plan on using GPS at all, stay away from the Captivate.

well said I forgot all about gps
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shanghei said:
If you plan on using GPS at all, stay away from the Captivate.
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+1 also if u dont want to be wait for official roms get the Vision [i have a vibrant too so just saying]

Tchem said:
Its funny you say that they are coming out with dual core processors but still using the same battery as single core. So imagine how fast the battery will fade on you. On top of that the price of the phone will almost double. So I give em late 4th quarter 2011 before these phone will actually blow up.
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Double the cores doesn't always mean double the price or battery life.(Nor should people expect double the performance) Being a mobile platform, I'm sure one of the major points they worked with is battery life. Different from dual processor, which you power both cpus, both sockets, and everything on each cpu. Where as one chip, you just power one chip. Same thing goes with price. a quad core cpu is considerably less than 2 dual cores. I'm not saying that it will cost as much and use as much power as a single core, but it's not going to be as high as you think.

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Galaxy S2 what do you think?

http://www.redmondpie.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-specs-will-blow-your-brains-out/
what do you think about this phone?
Pretty incredible. I guess this is still single core though?
rumors.. rumors.. rumors...
Where is the dual hd projectors?
Quite impressed but I agree with the author - instead of focusing on putting out faster processors that barely make a difference with the apps that we have, they should really work on increasing battery life. If the 2ghz makes the battery last a shorter time than my Captivate then it just isn't worth it. I'd much rather have the same specs we have now but with a battery that can last 2 full days with normal use instead of one. I'm not saying I'm unhappy with my current battery life, it easily gets me through a day, but I'd prefer to only charge every other day if the option was there.
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rumors.. rumors.. rumors...
Where is the dual hd projectors?
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I head it will mow your lawn and change the oil in your car too. Spread the word..
cliffgardner said:
I head it will mow your lawn and change the oil in your car too. Spread the word..
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Damn...sign me up..I got a 4 car and 1 SUV household to change the oil on and over 1 acre of yard to mow
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I'd honestly be much more excited to see samsung commit to gingerbread for its current (and still top of the market) generation
I appreciate the bump of the screen to "4.3 in" I tested my friend's droid x, and I like how "full" it feels XD
This speculation looks cool, but even if it is "real" it would most likely be push back to like Q4 of 2011, Honestly Samsung has pushed back Froyo so much. Those stats look great but they really need to work with their software to enhance android OS for their Hummingbird CPU architecture. The snapdragon Cpu is so enhanced with Froyo, hopefully Gingerbread... hopin... the actual device looks great though. I like the slate design.
Me wants.
Me drools
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As far as bettery life is concerned I doubt it will make a huge impact. From what I've read the dual core designs don't really require much more power than their single core counterparts so I imagine they would have a 2ghz CPU designed similarly in efficiency. I'm with the idea though that it sounds like overkill but if you put the hardware out someone will find a way to use it. With this phone being as fast as it is ill imagine ill be able to ride out my contract with it no problem. I like having the latest and greatest but if nothing really takes advantage of it before the next Gen comes out its not worth it. It is amazing to see the strides these smartphones are taking.
Cool. But it's so worthless.
the 1ghz hummingbird processor is fast enough for EVERYTHING.
And the design.. it's nothing special. All these phones are looking for and more alike (iphone shape-ish). They need to create something a bit more fancy.
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Cool. But it's so worthless.
the 1ghz hummingbird processor is fast enough for EVERYTHING.
And the design.. it's nothing special. All these phones are looking for and more alike (iphone shape-ish). They need to create something a bit more fancy.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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Agreed. I want to buy the Otterbox case when it comes out, but I really don't want to cover up the phone's good looks with it. The checkering on the back cover looks really great. And it's so slim! This is a dilemma of great proportions.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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I'm not a really big fan of the Captivate's design. All the curves just end up wasting space for no particular reason other than to look cool while at the same time making it so different from other phones that there are far, far fewer accessories available for us than pretty much any other 2.1/2.2 Android phone.
I like that CGI mockup of a possible Galaxy S2, it's minimalist and would be very well suited to having an aftermarket case, unlike ours, which tend to look way too rounded after putting on a case.
The thing I'm most interested in is if the AT&T version of the phone will again be a stripped down, gimped, bloatware-filled version of the international version. I will not buy another smartphone until there is one available that has a FFC and a flash. I think it's pretty silly to go through the trouble of redesigning the entire outer casing of the phone while removing features. You're just spending more money for less (it costs far more to make a separate production line for new bodies than it does to simply keep the FFC in; as we've all seen from the Vibrant mods, the FFC assembly is DIRT CHEAP).
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Agreed. I want to buy the Otterbox case when it comes out, but I really don't want to cover up the phone's good looks with it. The checkering on the back cover looks really great. And it's so slim! This is a dilemma of great proportions.
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Yeah I wont be throwing a case on this bad boy. I was actually going to look into maybe clear coating this thing or something just to give it a little resiliance but since I have insurance ill just rma a new one if gets too beat up
JPS81 said:
I'm not a really big fan of the Captivate's design. All the curves just end up wasting space for no particular reason other than to look cool while at the same time making it so different from other phones that there are far, far fewer accessories available for us than pretty much any other 2.1/2.2 Android phone.
I like that CGI mockup of a possible Galaxy S2, it's minimalist and would be very well suited to having an aftermarket case, unlike ours, which tend to look way too rounded after putting on a case.
The thing I'm most interested in is if the AT&T version of the phone will again be a stripped down, gimped, bloatware-filled version of the international version. I will not buy another smartphone until there is one available that has a FFC and a flash. I think it's pretty silly to go through the trouble of redesigning the entire outer casing of the phone while removing features. You're just spending more money for less (it costs far more to make a separate production line for new bodies than it does to simply keep the FFC in; as we've all seen from the Vibrant mods, the FFC assembly is DIRT CHEAP).
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to me I think the phone shouldn't look like it needs to be covered up with a case. I'm not so sure I understand where your coming from on the design/ accessories issue as I really have not noticed us lacking something other phones have but I really don't keep up with that stuff. I agree about the flash and FFC. I was a little disappointed when I saw a flash was not included.
Can only dream...
Lee1733 said:
Quite impressed but I agree with the author - instead of focusing on putting out faster processors that barely make a difference with the apps that we have, they should really work on increasing battery life. If the 2ghz makes the battery last a shorter time than my Captivate then it just isn't worth it. I'd much rather have the same specs we have now but with a battery that can last 2 full days with normal use instead of one. I'm not saying I'm unhappy with my current battery life, it easily gets me through a day, but I'd prefer to only charge every other day if the option was there.
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Yeah. I'm with Lee on this one. If it is single core, aps will open marginally quicker with the performance limiter being the wireless network. The only benefit I can see if multitasking. I foresee a 2ghz single core phone having poor performance in battery life. A dual core properly architectured can come out with similar battery performance to single. I wish Samsung would focus on improving the current product, and understand the fact that their phones have to be hacked...not to overclock, or over perform; but to make the phone perform the way the hardware allows it to. Not what the software limits it to. I am sure they formatted the drives to preserve the battery life, and not hit the processor so hard, but hey if you roll out a 1GHZ CPU, it should run like a 1GHZ CPU. I love the hardware and look forward to an official release of Froyo. Until then the leaked version with lag fix works great for me. (GPS and all)
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As far as bettery life is concerned I doubt it will make a huge impact. From what I've read the dual core designs don't really require much more power than their single core counterparts so I imagine they would have a 2ghz CPU designed similarly in efficiency. I'm with the idea though that it sounds like overkill but if you put the hardware out someone will find a way to use it. With this phone being as fast as it is ill imagine ill be able to ride out my contract with it no problem. I like having the latest and greatest but if nothing really takes advantage of it before the next Gen comes out its not worth it. It is amazing to see the strides these smartphones are taking.
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I hear the sound of a veteran over zealous overclocker. Let me check, what bridge (s) for pencil overclock?
I just want a higher resolution display. Not to sound like an apple fanboy but what the heck was Samsung thinking? I can see the pixels so clearly on this display (maybe cause its super amoled )
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Captivate to Inspire to Atrix to Inspire... and Im back on the Captivate!

Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
Lol, As much as people diss the captivate it's hard to find another android phone that can match it.
+1
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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
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I returned the Inspire because of all of those reasons, but the Atrix had even more problems than that.
I had the atrix...it may be better on paper but I'll stick with the captivate
You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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I got my Atrix, and no way am I going back to my Captivate full time... I'll miss the Captivate's screen, but in the end, the Atrix is a superior phone. Just waiting for my unlock code now so I can actually use it on my carrier, but damn, its insanely fast! Still keeping my Captivate for backup purposes and to satisfy my flashing addiction.
One thing I wish manufacturers would include, dual sim slots... Then I wouldn't need 2 separate phones, one for home and one for work... Seems simple enough and wouldn't be very costly to add, considering all the cheap Chinese knockoff phones come with dual and even triple (dual GSM and a single CDMA) sim slots which all work simultaneously.
Other than that and the inferior screen compared to the Captivate, it's pretty hard to complain about the Atrix, I hope the devs get around the bootloader or Motorola finally caves in and decides to let us unlock it if we chose to (like the Xoom), but I won't complain if it doesn't happen... I can get rid of the stock launcher easily and replace it with Launcher Pro Plus, Zeam or ADW, which is really my only complaint about Blur. I'm happy it doesn't include Gingerbread yet, as it's still quite buggy and really doesn't offer much over Froyo anyways... Besides, that leaves at least 1 update that will arrive soonish where Motorola may throw in the bootloader unlock if people complain enough. ... Of course I won't be holding my breath, but it would be nice.
Overall, I'm happy with my purchase, I'll put it through more rigorous testing in the coming weeks after I get my unlock code, I'm sure it'll perform just fine though.
I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...
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I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...
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I'd be all over the Galaxy S 2 if it still had a 4" screen (and possibly a higher resolution), but the 4.3" screen is the deal breaker for me. Yes, I realize that the screen's quality is far superior to the Atrix's, but when all things are considered, the Atrix makes up for it in raw specs and awesome accessories...
The Captivate is already huge for a phone (in my opinion), I can't imagine using anything bigger than that. Thickness isn't a big concern for me (I don't see why people are so obsessed with how thin phones are, a mm or 2 really doesn't make a huge difference... But meh, to each his/her own), but the overall height and width is what really bothers me, at 125mm (~5"), it's huge compared to the Atrix's 117mm (~4.5") or even the Captivate's 121mm (~4.7")...
I'm more interested to see how well Samsung's dual core Exynos processor performs than the Tegra 2 on the Galaxy S 2, knowing how snappy the Hummingbird currently is and how long it kept the performance crown, I have no doubts that the Exynos will be able to hold its own against, and possibly even beat the Tegra 2.
And yes, I completely agree, until we see some optimizations in the OS and apps for dual core SOCs, there really won't be a huge difference between single and dual cores in terms of performance... Thankfully, Tegra 2 optimized apps and games are starting to pop up on the Market, so it's only a matter of time. Benchmarks really aren't a good way to measure performance between single and dual cores, they're not very accurate with single cores either (they vary greatly between different kernels, yet real world performance remains the same), so I take synthetic benchmark results with a grain of salt.
Either way, dual cores are still very much in their infancy, it can only get better from here, and if past phones are any indication, we're in for a hell of a year in terms of Android goodness.
Well I have played with an Evo, 4.3 inch screen, and I can handle it pretty nicely in my hands. I can't imagine much bigger though for a phone myself.
Phones and basically netbooks now. Not quite up to the power a laptop, but soon that will change. I do like the docks for the Atrix, but do not really want to pay $500 for it. I can get a good laptop for the price now. I want portable power in a small package.
I would say that the tegra will have a slight advantage only on the fact that there will be more software optimized to run on it most likely. Nvida is a big company imop that leads the pc gpu market.
Certainly going to be a GREAT YEAR for 'smartphones'...(almost think the name needs to change soon...
I have the captivate and nexus one right now, had the Atrix when it came out but took it back.
now I only use the Captivare to either play games or as a backup if the Nexus 1 dies on me.
Played with an atrix. Couldn't find a justification to buy it. Not very impressive. Liked the inspire more, but still not enough to give up the captivate
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Krad said:
You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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it blows so much you have to spend time in our forum instead of the streaks...oh wait there isn't much to see in the streak forum is there
ekerbuddyeker said:
Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
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No wonder there are so many "refurbs" out there...
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i was going to get the Atrix because of the lapdock but i read its not very functional as for the trackpad and a bit too pricey. still happy with my cappy, good thing we have developers busy making our captivate better everyday, since at&t is too busy with the iphone
For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
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For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
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Mikey, that was almost complimentary. You must be in a good mood for a change.
there are so many of these threads and soo many people have things they like about the captivate over there other phone. i messed with the atrix and like the webtop view but wish it did more than run firefox and web apps. it would be great if the phone view could be opened in multiple windows having all the active apps open at the same time if you wish but i guess you cant get everything. also a full text editor would be cool. i know it has office apps but a more desktop worthy app would be awesome in the webtop. but hearing that the inspire and atrix have lesser call quality makes me shy away from the atrix. the call quality is one of the best things about the captivate. plus the atrix does look a bit cheap with the back cover though i am gealous of the fingerprint reader and hdmi port.
now i want to put ubuntu on my phone so i can out do the atrix in the "hey my phone is a computer" catagory. my graphics benchmarks are already better. now we just need to find someone who can write a driver to get hdmi out from the usb port... hmmm i need to get my brother to stop playing wow, quit his night job and dev for android..
My friend bought and HD7, and as I played with it, the same charm the captivate had when I first saw it was pretty much non-existant. The Captivate is anything but perfect, but it is also anything but terrible. Oh, and it looks really bad ass too

[Q] Google Nexus Prime : The NEXT Google Experience

Well it's time to let's talk about the next Google Experience Device successor of the great Samsung Google Nexus S and it seems Google reconfirm Samsung for this year.
Probably the name is Google Nexus Prime (rumor)
http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/27/googl...tured-by-samsung-possibly-dubbed-nexus-prime/
Those are the possible SPECS
OS : Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
Display : Super Amoled HD 1280x720 720P
CPU Dual-Core : TI OMAP 4460 1.5 Ghz
What do you think?
Are you waiting to buy the best device at moment (Galaxy S II)?
Waiting for the iPhone5 (WTF LOL)?
Upgrade the "old" NEXUS S for this BEAST?
You don't ****ing cares?
Let's the war/dream begin
You might want to check out this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143668
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i made up my mind to upgrade to the new nexus every 2yrs when i bought the nexus s.
so i will skip this and probably get the next nexus
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i made up my mind to upgrade to the new nexus every 2yrs when i bought the nexus s.
so i will skip this and probably get the next nexus
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That's what I said when I got my Nexus One about 6 months after it's release (gave it time for the price to drop a bit). But a year later, here I am buying a Nexus S (once again, 6 months after it's release).
Originally, I wasn't impressed with the NS at launch as compared to the N1 at launch, because it really didn't seem like the difference was big enough. N1 was a monster, with very few devices living up to its specs at the time. With the NS, however, processor speed was the same (although the difference between Snapdragon and Hummingbird is a little bigger than it appears on paper). NFC wasn't too important to me. The screen was only a third of an inch bigger - same resolution. And not being made by HTC left a tiny bit of heartbreak, but I can understand that Google is trying to give everyone a chance (or so it seems).
When it comes right down to it, and as much as the development community is still going strong, I started getting bored of the N1 and ultimately decided to upgrade. And now, less than a month after getting the NS, I am very happy with that decision. Sure, I had a couple issues along the way (NS radios are horrible) but I've overcome this little weakness. And yes, I do miss my little N1 though, but it's been put in a good home for another tech-lover to enjoy while I move on up.
So while it may sound a bit redundant to say I may skip the next Nexus device, I've already proven that the original intention doesn't always live up to what happens in reality. While I may say right now that I'm willing to skip a version, only time will tell.
In my opinion, the Nexus devices are the benchmark of Android and that's what the Nexus brand is all about. Upgrade or not, be happy knowing you're a part of the Nexus family. They're all great phones, and always will be.
TLDR version: Loved my N1. Love my NS. Will love the next Nexus too. Google knows what they're doing, and I'm sure we'll be happy with whatever makes it to market
ale0crysis said:
Well it's time to let's talk about the next Google Experience Device successor of the great Samsung Google Nexus S and it seems Google reconfirm Samsung for this year.
Probably the name is Google Nexus Prime (rumor)
http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/27/googl...tured-by-samsung-possibly-dubbed-nexus-prime/
Those are the possible SPECS
OS : Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
Display : Super Amoled HD 1280x720 720P
CPU Dual-Core : TI OMAP 4460 1.5 Ghz
What do you think?
Are you waiting to buy the best device at moment (Galaxy S II)?
Waiting for the iPhone5 (WTF LOL)?
Upgrade the "old" NEXUS S for this BEAST?
You don't ****ing cares?
Let's the war/dream begin
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cOLD in here...
Bloodflame said:
That's what I said when I got my Nexus One about 6 months after it's release (gave it time for the price to drop a bit). But a year later, here I am buying a Nexus S (once again, 6 months after it's release).
Originally, I wasn't impressed with the NS at launch as compared to the N1 at launch, because it really didn't seem like the difference was big enough. N1 was a monster, with very few devices living up to its specs at the time. With the NS, however, processor speed was the same (although the difference between Snapdragon and Hummingbird is a little bigger than it appears on paper). NFC wasn't too important to me. The screen was only a third of an inch bigger - same resolution. And not being made by HTC left a tiny bit of heartbreak, but I can understand that Google is trying to give everyone a chance (or so it seems).
When it comes right down to it, and as much as the development community is still going strong, I started getting bored of the N1 and ultimately decided to upgrade. And now, less than a month after getting the NS, I am very happy with that decision. Sure, I had a couple issues along the way (NS radios are horrible) but I've overcome this little weakness. And yes, I do miss my little N1 though, but it's been put in a good home for another tech-lover to enjoy while I move on up.
So while it may sound a bit redundant to say I may skip the next Nexus device, I've already proven that the original intention doesn't always live up to what happens in reality. While I may say right now that I'm willing to skip a version, only time will tell.
In my opinion, the Nexus devices are the benchmark of Android and that's what the Nexus brand is all about. Upgrade or not, be happy knowing you're a part of the Nexus family. They're all great phones, and always will be.
TLDR version: Loved my N1. Love my NS. Will love the next Nexus too. Google knows what they're doing, and I'm sure we'll be happy with whatever makes it to market
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Exactly the same story here. Just upgraded to the Nexus S from the N1, and only because I got bored with it and its touchscreen. Miss the trackball notifications, but nothing else.
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im gonna buy nexus prime or watever its name bcoz it is PURE GOOGLE..hehe
If these specs are right the CPU will use the same GPU but clocked much higher. There was a similar OMAP 4 used in the LG 3d that had our GPU but clock higher and that one was a bit faster, this one is clocked even higher..
What's interesting is that its the same GPU. I'm guessing that they did this to make the hw acceleration a easy job for the NS and nexus prime. Only one set of.drivers would need to be baked in.
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I'm a little bit confused... SuperAmoled HD make me think it will be another Samsung device but "Prime" is more LG style :/
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I'm a little bit confused... SuperAmoled HD make me think it will be another Samsung device but "Prime" is more LG style :/
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+1 to that. It's all speculated rumors anyway.
hard to swallow that samsung would make the device and use anything but their newest dual core which has been beating the competition hands down
I hope they are all running vanilla Android. I'll probably stick with the Nexus line though since they get updates first.
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Think ill have to miss out as I signed a 2 year contract last december for the NS. No doubt tho I'm excited about it.
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I hope it's available on all the major carriers. Even better is release them at the same time in whatever country so that some of us won't miss out on all the fun and have to wait. I hope sprint starts going to lte and it has that on board too. Nfc, pfft! I could care less about that. I turn it off or disable it anyway.
How about the next one having infrared and rf remote control capabilities built in. Instead of having that obnoxious ass camera led, why not infrared led? Oh wait, that's only good for monochrome pictures, right? I'm trying to think of widely useful hardware features that most other phones don't have.
How about infrastructure wireless tether mode? I think the evo was one of the few that had that.
Give us back our damned micro sd slot and put it on the side of the phone, not under the battery or require to remove the battery cover.
Try to put the power and volume buttons in a spot that won't make an accidental button push on the opposite side of the phone happen because of the natural way people hold a phone and where their fingers rest. A top power button would be fine.
If it's Samsung making the next phone, QUIT MOVING THE GOD DAMNED BACK, MENU, SEARCH AND HOME KEY PLACEMENT AROUND!!! Almost every Samsung device has those buttons playing musical chairs. When you get used to the button placement of one device, the next one has them moved around. How many of you hit the wrong buttons when using different Samsung devices?
How about put multi colored leds as the bottom buttons illumination? You can set them to whatever color you want for different kinds of notifications. You don't need a separate notifications light, think of the track ball of the HTC nexus.
How about a video camera that can do 720p @ 30fps no sweat or hiccups?
How about a lanyard loop at the top center of the side of the phone. Not on a corner. Incognito filming mode...
Extended life battery that will get you all day of heavy usage on a single charge and let it be the battery that comes with the phone, not extra. You can't find decent cases when you have an extended life battery. I don't care if the phone is a little bit thicker, I want substantially more battery life.
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If it's Samsung making the next phone, QUIT MOVING THE GOD DAMNED BACK, MENU, SEARCH AND HOME KEY PLACEMENT AROUND!!! Almost every Samsung device has those buttons playing musical chairs. When you get used to the button placement of one device, the next one has them moved around. How many of you hit the wrong buttons when using different Samsung devices?
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+1 yeah, like when you go to the shop and they've moved the bloody gherkins again? Above the freezers? No. The coffee aisle? No. Near the soup? I've walked all over the place. What a waste of time. Still, I wouldn't have spotted those frozen raspberries otherwise. Clever bastards.
oscarthegrouch said:
I hope it's available on all the major carriers. Even better is release them at the same time in whatever country so that some of us won't miss out on all the fun and have to wait. I hope sprint starts going to lte and it has that on board too. Nfc, pfft! I could care less about that. I turn it off or disable it anyway.
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Would love to see a phone that would work on any carrier. Alas, our CDMA brethren (Sprint and Verizon) make that really difficult
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Give us back our damned micro sd slot and put it on the side of the phone, not under the battery or require to remove the battery cover.
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I personally don't care about an SD card. I doubt Google does either. Their entire philosophy is built around moving everything to the cloud. This is a company that killed their G-Drive "Dropbox-like" service before it started because "files are so 1990's."
oscarthegrouch said:
Try to put the power and volume buttons in a spot that won't make an accidental button push on the opposite side of the phone happen because of the natural way people hold a phone and where their fingers rest. A top power button would be fine.
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I don't mind them on the sides, but I think they should be on opposite sides. If I'm holding in my right hand, I would like volume up/down by my thumb, and power on/off either by my index finger or as you said, up top. With volume on the other side, you can use volume button as camera shutter button with phone in correct orientation
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If it's Samsung making the next phone, QUIT MOVING THE GOD DAMNED BACK, MENU, SEARCH AND HOME KEY PLACEMENT AROUND!!! Almost every Samsung device has those buttons playing musical chairs. When you get used to the button placement of one device, the next one has them moved around. How many of you hit the wrong buttons when using different Samsung devices?
How about put multi colored leds as the bottom buttons illumination? You can set them to whatever color you want for different kinds of notifications. You don't need a separate notifications light, think of the track ball of the HTC nexus.
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I don't think either of these will be a problem since all indication is that the next release of Android will not require hardware buttons, and the next generation mobile devices will not have them.
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How about a video camera that can do 720p @ 30fps no sweat or hiccups?
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I honestly think people expect too much here. Filming good HD video is tough even on dedicated equipment. The amount of processing power required to encode that on the fly (or alternatively, the amount of storage space required to store unencoded HD video) is prohibitive on a mobile device with today's technology. You'll either get lower resolution and better performance, or higher resolution with ****ty compression and lower framerates. Hopefully technology in this area improves in the near future.
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How about a lanyard loop at the top center of the side of the phone. Not on a corner. Incognito filming mode...
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Gross. No thanks.
oscarthegrouch said:
Extended life battery that will get you all day of heavy usage on a single charge and let it be the battery that comes with the phone, not extra. You can't find decent cases when you have an extended life battery. I don't care if the phone is a little bit thicker, I want substantially more battery life.
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My Nexus lasts all day no problem. Some people use GPS all day, use their mobile as their main media device, etc. and they don't make it all day. I dunno. These phones today are as powerful as laptops. You seen any laptop batteries that fit the mobile profile lately? Science just aint there yet. Hopefully with Li-Ion and other batteries being used in EVs these days (an exploding industry) major breakthroughs will occur in battery technology.
Thanks for your post. Just my 2 cents!
matt2053 said:
I personally don't care about an SD card. I doubt Google does either. Their entire philosophy is built around moving everything to the cloud. This is a company that killed their G-Drive "Dropbox-like" service before it started because "files are so 1990's."
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The cloud can eat a **** as long as carriers have "unlimited" data, caps and throttling. 16GB built in is more than enough for normal stuff, but I want to be able to toss in large sd cards to indiscriminately hold music and movies without having to pick and choose.
If Samsung makes it, I hope they put more effort into it than this one. I get the impression that some things about the ns were done half assed.
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If Samsung makes it, I hope they put more effort into it than this one. I get the impression that some things about the ns were done half assed.
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No LED is the one thing that pi**ed me off. No keys must mean more screen space. 4.3" is perfect IMO. Gonna skip the prime and wait for Nexus 4. Gonna get ice cream on the NS anyway.
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A multi color led like the n1

[Q] Able to upgrade my phone on T-Mobile soon - which one should I get?

Hi guys, I will be eligible for an upgrade on September 10th on T-Mobile, and I'm having a hard time trying to decide on which one I want to get.
The main two that I am looking at right now are the HTC Sensation 4G, and the Samsung Galaxy S2 (once it comes out for T-Mobile USA). The Samsung Galaxy S2 seems like the better choice, but I've heard that it won't come out until October 26th. Is this true? If its worth it I could wait that long, but I'd rather not. Also, I've heard that the screen on the T-Mobile version of the Galaxy S2 will be 4.5". That seems a little bit too big for me, since I have a MyTouch 3G right now. Is the size of the phone too big to be comfortable to use and carry around? Its hard to resist though because of the battery life, performance, and the awesome screen..
The HTC Sensation 4G sounds like a good phone too, but I've seen that on Quadrant the HTC Sensation 4G gets around 2000, and the Samsung Galaxy S2 gets around 3000. That's a pretty big difference.
Which phone do you guys think I should go for? Any phone would be better than the one I have right now. I've been waiting for a long time to finally upgrade.
P.S. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I didn't really know where to put this.
Qualcomm's S3, or 1st Gen dual core snapdragons are asynchronous, meaning most of the time only 1 core is active, for energy reasons. The phone is still fast, its just that the benchmarks don't push the CPU to activate both cores, making the score lower than normal. The SGSII on the other hand, has both cores on all the time, which is bad for battery, but processes get split b/t the 2 cores, making it really fast all the time too.
"Qualcomm’s implementation of asynchronous processing as key to the dual-core chips leading performance and lower power consumption as both cores do not need to be used for lower-powered tasks."
I know I say this all the time, well recently anyway, but you should get a native ICS device instead, they'll be worth it more. Normally I don't get things with the 1st series of its kind, I would wait till mobile dual cores get better, which they have since 1.5GHz+ duals, are coming later this year, Q4. And you might also want that 720P HD screen, and no buttons, and smaller bezel and all that stuff...
I would wait for the Galaxy S II. Simply because it's awesome.
Ace42 said:
Qualcomm's S3, or 1st Gen dual core snapdragons are asynchronous, meaning most of the time only 1 core is active, for energy reasons. The phone is still fast, its just that the benchmarks don't push the CPU to activate both cores, making the score lower than normal. The SGSII on the other hand, has both cores on all the time, which is bad for battery, but processes get split b/t the 2 cores, making it really fast all the time too.
"Qualcomm’s implementation of asynchronous processing as key to the dual-core chips leading performance and lower power consumption as both cores do not need to be used for lower-powered tasks."
I know I say this all the time, well recently anyway, but you should get a native ICS device instead, they'll be worth it more. Normally I don't get things with the 1st series of its kind, I would wait till mobile dual cores get better, which they have since 1.5GHz+ duals, are coming later this year, Q4. And you might also want that 720P HD screen, and no buttons, and smaller bezel and all that stuff...
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That doesn't make much sense to me. I've seen from a couple people that the battery life on the HTC Sensation 4G isn't very good, but the battery life on the Samsung Galaxy S2 is pretty good.
And also, I haven't really kept up-to-date with all the new phones, and I have no idea when a phone with ICS will be out. I'd like to get a new phone as soon as possible, as I'm getting kind of tired of my MyTouch 3G. Its been a good phone, but it is just too outdated and slow now.
MattDrumz said:
That doesn't make much sense to me. I've seen from a couple people that the battery life on the HTC Sensation 4G isn't very good, but the battery life on the Samsung Galaxy S2 is pretty good.
And also, I haven't really kept up-to-date with all the new phones, and I have no idea when a phone with ICS will be out. I'd like to get a new phone as soon as possible, as I'm getting kind of tired of my MyTouch 3G. Its been a good phone, but it is just too outdated and slow now.
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The battery life is supposed to be better since it's asynchronous now, meaning both cores aren't used unless needed for the process or app. My point before was that the benchmark isn't making both cores activate, leading to only 1 being on-so the overall score would be lower than the Exynos in the SGSII.
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The battery life is supposed to be better since it's asynchronous now, meaning both cores aren't used unless needed for the process or app. My point before was that the benchmark isn't making both cores activate, leading to only 1 being on-so the overall score would be lower than the Exynos in the SGSII.
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Oh, I get what you're saying now. I'm still leaning towards waiting for the SGSII.
MattDrumz said:
Oh, I get what you're saying now. I'm still leaning towards waiting for the SGSII.
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Both phones are great, but the Hercules, which if turns out to be the SGSII will be worth the wait...But if the N Prime comes out around the SGSII release, get that instead.
I'd go for the dell venue pro personally
With Tmobie, the Galaxy SII will be like.. 4.5" screen ... That's big .. Too big for a cell phone...
I'm on the same case and I'll be buying an Htc Sensation tomorrow, since I can't wait
I'm on TMobile.
Thanks
I would suggest you wait for SGSII. It will be worth it.
Also, keep an eye on the release dates of Prime. If both of their release dates coincides by a fair margin (I doubt this), then go with the latter phone.
Get the g2x
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From what people are saying, I think I will go with the SGSII, unless the Nexus Prime comes out at the same time.
Does anybody know if the release date for the SGSII is still supposed to be October 26th? I was hoping it would be released in September like it was rumored it would. Also, do you think it will be about $200 with an upgrade when it comes out?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make the right decision.
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I very much enjoy the versatility of the htc sensation 4g with the Android Revolution HD 3.6.11 rom.

Worst phone in my entire life

This is hands down the worst phone that I have ever owned in my entire life. There are tons of
1) Biggest problem is definitely the home button. This alone makes the phone totally unusable. Want to use the GPS while driving? Well forget about cause you are going to get in to a car crash trying to set everything right with this home button thing going on.
2) randomly says I don't have a sim card while I haven't touch my simcard at all. And I only find out about this when I check my phone and by then I could have been unavailable for a couple hours. Well whats the point of a mobile phone then if you aren't always available. This is btw not a rom issue
3) Battery. I never get more then 1-2 hours of screen time on a 14 hour stretch. The iphone 5 gets 8 hours of browsing time.
4) Can't hear my phone ringing while out in public. The speaker is just pathetic.
5) paint problem of the black htc one s. Come on man. In the end I just sanded everything down. But that makes those cheap plastic bits stand out. Not to mention all the dust and gunk thats building up around and under these plastic bits. I can't see the LED light either unless I am viewing it directly from above. The design just isn't there. Although samsung isn't better either in that department. But the iphone just does it right.
7) Rom development sucks but I have no choice because sense sucks even harder.
It is unbelievable that HTC just can't get the elementary things right. My phone is totally unusable and it has been a miracle that I have surved this past 5 months on this POS. HTC lost a customer. I wasted 500 euro on this POS.
Sorry for thay. So what phone u got now?
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i have none of those problems, go get an iphone and be happy
Well I am probably going to get the iphone 5. Which I actually don't really want to do because its just expensive and its not really going to be a major upgrade compared to the HTC one S in terms of speed and the apps I use and even the screen.
But what choice do I have?
Well since i love Samsung i suggest u choose Samsung Galaxy Note 2 or SIII... Its less than the iPhone 5 but more function... Since u mention function.... These phone are the best... Well if u like iPhone application then choose iPhone.. But i suggest Samsung SIII or Galaxy Note2
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You give of about the black model chipping etc. well the iphone 5 is no better, has the exact same problem, in fact probably worse.
I have not encountered any of those issues that you have mentioned, my black phone (older design) is still in perfect condition apart from the USB port area, easily the best battery life currently (4-6 hours on screen time [manual control] spread across 1-3 days usually), only phone to top it is the iphone 5, although iOS does no more as much as android i.e. the multi-tasking and the hardware is more power efficient and the software/drivers are better optimized.
I do agree with you on the NLED though.
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Just noticed who the OP is........ *sigh*
Move onto the iphone already for god sake, you moan and moan and moan about the phone all the time and keep going on about how iphone better etc. as I told you before sell the one S and get yourself an iphone, such a simple solution........
BTW, fed up with the ROM development? Then educate yourself and you go and make a better ROM then!
TBH starting to think you are just one big troll.
Oh god not you again.
Sell your phone and get an iPhone. It's clear you're an iSheep so flock with the crowd.
You have opened numerous threads, moaning and complaining your iPhone is better, so for the better good of the earth, save yourself the typing and get an iPhone.
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carlos_abril_94 said:
i have none of those problems, go get an iphone and be happy
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I have also not encountered any of these problems. In fact, i'd say the HTC one S is the best phone ive ever owned. I find android superior to ios in many ways. Just my opinion.
Soo if you're disappointed with the development on the 1S, wait until you see how many options you have with the iPhone .
I personally have never had any of those issues, and while I come from an HD2 which probably had the most rom options of any phone, I find that we at least have quality over quantity. TrickDroid, Viper, Energy, and oh a little thing called OFFICIAL CM10! Thanks I'll subdue my flashaholic ways of the past for a great stable Rom with lots of cool features.
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Jesus man. The fanboyism here is super high. You guys are in denial.
And I can show thousands of pictures of my battery life. I can show you tons of threads about issues that people have with this phone. The home button thing is a major issue and you guys are denying that. Unbelievable.
This is not about android vs ios. Android JB is superior to iOS6 except in the gaming department. But none of these manufacturers can make a decent phone. SGS3? Great specs but its still a cheap plastic toy phone. Even if I was into plastic I'd still don't know how well the user experience is. Thats one thing I have learned from using the One S. Even though the one S is infinitely faster than my old iphone4. The iphone is still the superior phone. Its in the small details.
Battery life, volume of speakers, volume of headphone jack, bugs in software, battery charging time, unibody design, support. The user experience is everything and quad core means nothing. Especially not with this generation of phones where nowadays everything is blazing fast anyway
Go away troll!
no one is being a fanboy, we are just fed up with your stupid BS you keep spreading every month in a new thread despite being proven wrong with many people saying they don't have these problems.........
You experience these issues with some others, however, once again just because you and some other people experience these issues does not mean that everyone also has the same problems. People only ever report the bad stuff, hardly ever the good stuff.
I can show you videos, photos of my mobile (and I already have shown you plenty of battery screenshots with detailed usage), but it doesn't matter because you will still go on and on about how this phone sucks, how iphone is better blah blah, followed by more diarrhea from your mouth.
I have no problem with battery, touch button issue, volume/speakers/headphones (get better headphones!), what bugs in the software? My signal is more or less perfect as well as wifi connection, unibody design as I said no marks on mine apart from USB port.
Once again, why do you not sell the one S, all you do is moan and complain about it, sell and buy something else? Why is that so hard to do?
BTW do you honestly think people would keep a phone if they experienced that touch button issue? No matter how much of a fanboy someone is, they won't put up with that ****. I for one wouldn't so why would be denying this issue as well as the others?
You don't like the support, then you do something to improve it or better yet, move to a phone that has got better support i.e. nexus, GS 3 etc.
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Jesus man. The fanboyism here is super high. You guys are in denial.
And I can show thousands of pictures of my battery life. I can show you tons of threads about issues that people have with this phone. The home button thing is a major issue and you guys are denying that. Unbelievable.
This is not about android vs ios. Android JB is superior to iOS6 except in the gaming department. But none of these manufacturers can make a decent phone. SGS3? Great specs but its still a cheap plastic toy phone. Even if I was into plastic I'd still don't know how well the user experience is. Thats one thing I have learned from using the One S. Even though the one S is infinitely faster than my old iphone4. The iphone is still the superior phone. Its in the small details.
Battery life, volume of speakers, volume of headphone jack, bugs in software, battery charging time, unibody design, support. The user experience is everything and quad core means nothing. Especially not with this generation of phones where nowadays everything is blazing fast anyway
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"The user experience is everything and quad core means nothing." Troll much? I don't own a One S but i saw this post as i was scrolling down to the One X section and i must say you are a pathetic troll, as far as i know only the One S has a dual core Krait, the one with the quad core is the One X and i believe someone who is at XDA and knows about Custom Roms at least know what processor their phone has.
I can't stop checking this thread. It's like slowing down on the freeway to see a car accident. I have never, in my life, hated a product so much that I just vent and vent and vent without doing something about it. Based on my recent experience as a new parent, I'd say someone needs a new diaper, a nap and a nice shiny anodized (please ignore the chips and dents) iPhone pacifier.
People will always complain, WE know our device is a great fully functional device
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Haha I recently purchased the HOS but I definitely do not have any of the issues mentioned on the forum.
I mean okay, in reality, if people are content with their product, they usually won't need to ask questions or post help threads until necessary which is when their phone malfunctions or encounters a problem. So I'm guessing there are actually more happy owners out there in comparison with owners with issues.
AND. although I wish the development on this phone was better, I can't really complain as it has everything I both need or want (well battery life can always be better).
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"The user experience is everything and quad core means nothing." Troll much? I don't own a One S but i saw this post as i was scrolling down to the One X section and i must say you are a pathetic troll, as far as i know only the One S has a dual core Krait, the one with the quad core is the One X and i believe someone who is at XDA and knows about Custom Roms at least know what processor their phone has.
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I wasn't talking about the ONE S! I mentioned quad cores cause that sounds infinitely more next gen and awesome and futuristic then a measly dual core. It was to make a point. CPUs nowadays don't matter cause I can't tell the difference between the last gen CPU's (Nexus S, iphone4s) and current CPU's (a6, s4 krait, quad cores from nvidea and samsung) in day to day usages.
Where did I say that the One S has a quad core? You just went full retard!
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Haha I recently purchased the HOS but I definitely do not have any of the issues mentioned on the forum.
I mean okay, in reality, if people are content with their product, they usually won't need to ask questions or post help threads until necessary which is when their phone malfunctions or encounters a problem. So I'm guessing there are actually more happy owners out there in comparison with owners with issues.
AND. although I wish the development on this phone was better, I can't really complain as it has everything I both need or want (well battery life can always be better).
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Yea most of the complainers are really just a small bunch compared to the ones who actually are content, I only rooted mine out of boredom (boredom in life not with the phone lol) otherwise I would've been fine with it out of the box, why? Because mine had no problems, all the problems came after flashing roms and what not but that risk I was willing to take and I'm still left with a flawless device
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I had too had problems with the one S, but I will NEVER swap it with iPhone garbage. The one S has options of customizations. iPhone doesn't. I think speak for everyone when I say being locked into iTunes just sucks!
You know what makes a troll go away? When you ignore them. Please, don't feed the troll. It's better this way...
wilcoholic said:
Jesus man. The fanboyism here is super high. You guys are in denial.
And I can show thousands of pictures of my battery life. I can show you tons of threads about issues that people have with this phone. The home button thing is a major issue and you guys are denying that. Unbelievable.
This is not about android vs ios. Android JB is superior to iOS6 except in the gaming department. But none of these manufacturers can make a decent phone. SGS3? Great specs but its still a cheap plastic toy phone. Even if I was into plastic I'd still don't know how well the user experience is. Thats one thing I have learned from using the One S. Even though the one S is infinitely faster than my old iphone4. The iphone is still the superior phone. Its in the small details.
Battery life, volume of speakers, volume of headphone jack, bugs in software, battery charging time, unibody design, support. The user experience is everything and quad core means nothing. Especially not with this generation of phones where nowadays everything is blazing fast anyway
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I have four of these phones, for my mom, my sister, my niece and me plus i have 3 friends who have this phone and none of us ever seen this home button issue. I just hope it's not something that starts up after a while of using it.

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