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GSM i9250 Galaxy nexus vs HTC Sensation.. Why i kept the Nexus.

Well hey guys. I've been getting alot of questions on whether people should go and get a nexus or keep the sensation since i was an extremely early adopter of the sensation and a huge HTC Fan. To be honest, i like the nexus, probably 10 more times than i liked the sensation, and here's why.
NO OVERHEATING. As many of you know, the sensation likes to get all hot and bothered. But, it gets a little too hot. its gotten hot on me to the point it burned the inside of my gel case i bought for it. The nexus has YET to even start to get a LITTLE warm, and trust me i charged it exactly how i did the sensation. Probably one of the main reasons i like the nexus.
BUILD QUALITY.Personally i love the way both of these devices are built. But in the end i have to give it to the Nexus. Reason being i like that the device literally feels PERFECT in the hand to me. the perfect mix between not too light but not ridiculous like the razr. I've had alot of experience with the lte nexus since i work for verizon and i like the gsm version more because its more thin and light.
GPS. Now i don't understand why people hate samsung for their crappy gps from what i read. This is the first smartphone i've ever owned that picked up my location at my house DIRECTLY THE FIRST TIME. Not two houses over or a block. My exact home address. Every other phone put me somewhere else, including the sensation.
BATTERY LIFE! I've never, ever, EVER, EVER had a phone thats lasted longer than this nexus has. im on 1 day,3h,24 min on battery with 34 percent left! NEVER have i had battery life this good. Most will say "hey shaq, your not using the phone thats why its lasting so long.derp derp derp" You want to know what i say to that? " NO boy, i've been using this phone constantly especially since its new and i've only had it for two days. Silly ass. "
Besides the screen which obviously goes to the nexus, this is why im keeping it. I don't know if many of you will even care about this, but this is for those who were wondering thats all. This isn't a biased review AT ALL seeing as i never liked samsung, don't like the sgs2 or any of their devices (yes even the Nexus S) and this is the first samsung device i've ever bought, and i'm extremely impressed. Hope this helps those on the gate about this phone.

Shaquiel Harris said:
Well hey guys. I've been getting alot of questions on whether people should go and get a nexus or keep the sensation since i was an extremely early adopter of the sensation and a huge HTC Fan. To be honest, i like the nexus, probably 10 more times than i liked the sensation, and here's why.
NO OVERHEATING. As many of you know, the sensation likes to get all hot and bothered. But, it gets a little too hot. its gotten hot on me to the point it burned the inside of my gel case i bought for it. The nexus has YET to even start to get a LITTLE warm, and trust me i charged it exactly how i did the sensation. Probably one of the main reasons i like the nexus.
No issues here.
BUILD QUALITY.Personally i love the way both of these devices are built. But in the end i have to give it to the Nexus. Reason being i like that the device literally feels PERFECT in the hand to me. the perfect mix between not too light but not ridiculous like the razr. I've had alot of experience with the lte nexus since i work for verizon and i like the gsm version more because its more thin and light.
Felt the nexus, ain't worth ****. Just like an LG Optimus 2x
GPS. Now i don't understand why people hate samsung for their crappy gps from what i read. This is the first smartphone i've ever owned that picked up my location at my house DIRECTLY THE FIRST TIME. Not two houses over or a block. My exact home address. Every other phone put me somewhere else, including the sensation.
Fast fix, here the same. Unrooted phone.
BATTERY LIFE! I've never, ever, EVER, EVER had a phone thats lasted longer than this nexus has. im on 1 day,3h,24 min on battery with 34 percent left! NEVER have i had battery life this good. Most will say "hey shaq, your not using the phone thats why its lasting so long.derp derp derp" You want to know what i say to that? " NO boy, i've been using this phone constantly especially since its new and i've only had it for two days. Silly ass. "
Got 2 days and 5 hours with standard rom, mediocore usage. Always 3G.
Besides the screen which obviously goes to the nexus, this is why im keeping it. I don't know if many of you will even care about this, but this is for those who were wondering thats all. This isn't a biased review AT ALL seeing as i never liked samsung, don't like the sgs2 or any of their devices (yes even the Nexus S) and this is the first samsung device i've ever bought, and i'm extremely impressed. Hope this helps those on the gate about this phone.
Guess you had a mondaymorning device
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Must say, the only reason I should use a Nexus is because of the Amoled. But since it ain't got sense.
It has nothing.
Not to forget.. It only has a 5mpixel camera aswell.

Redshark976 said:
Must say, the only reason I should use a Nexus is because of the Amoled. But since it ain't got sense.
It has nothing.
Not to forget.. It only has a 5mpixel camera aswell.
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Android 4.0 honestly destroys what sense ever was honestly if you gave it a try.
Samsung Actually makes cameras, their 5mp camera could easily be compared to a moto or htc camera and be on par or even beat it. It has one of the best camera sensors out on a phone. Megapixels don't determine how good the camera is . Trust me, i've done alot of tests against one another.

lol about the pyramid GPS, you're wrong, i tryed it at lobby of a big complex and it found my location in 30sec.

No microSD card slot.
No mass storage mode (so I can't use iTunes Agent)
No offline sync with PC for calendar and contacts (old fashioned I know, but I just don't want to sync with Google's sevrers).
No in-built DLNA app (Google really need to up their game with core functionality like this and implement full GUI mirroring to TVs/monitors via DLNA or wifi direct as standard so we can do more with our devices)
Other than that, I probably would've bought the Nexus too.
It would be nice if the Sensation didn't gently toast my backside when it's in my pocket ; )

Guys it looks like you are trying to change Shaqs mind. Don't, it will only lead to misunderstandings an flame wars.
@Shaq, thanks for sharing, you aren't the first person which said that he likes GN more than Sensation, but you are the first to explain why. While I disagree with heat issue (mine never got that hot) the rest of the point can be only understood by direct comparison (not possible in my case). Also, we don't know what HTC is going to come up with for the next Sense, but i have a feeling it's going to be rather yummy.
But all in all, possibility of me going to GED is higher and higher every day I use Android.

I would trade my sensation for a nexus in a heartbeat if it wasn't so. Damn big

Shaquiel Harris said:
Android 4.0 honestly destroys what sense ever was honestly if you gave it a try.
Samsung Actually makes cameras, their 5mp camera could easily be compared to a moto or htc camera and be on par or even beat it. It has one of the best camera sensors out on a phone. Megapixels don't determine how good the camera is . Trust me, i've done alot of tests against one another.
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I've got to agree with you on both points, I'm a avid htc fan but from the leaked ICS sense roms htc have seriously messed it up and I'm not talking about the obvious lags as it is a leak, and yes Megapixels count for nothing its all about the sensor
Sent from a galaxy far far away

Nice nice! I've tho heard that the nexus have a rubbish battery life, but then it is better than the sensation, so that's good.
When I saw the nexus, I thought about buying it, too but the lack of SD card made me go nono ^^

Shaquiel Harris said:
I don't know if many of you will even care about this, but this is for those who were wondering thats all.
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That would be me. I'm too strapped for cash right now to even consider getting a GN, but I did wonder how much better (or worse) it was compared to Sensation. So thanks for this.
Lack of SD card slot does kill me a little inside, but I'm sure the overall user experience makes you forget that. I had an iPhone previously, so I'm sure I could get over the lack of SD slot.

c19932 said:
I would trade my sensation for a nexus in a heartbeat if it wasn't so. Damn big
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It's not that big. Remember it has no hard keys so it's only marginally bigger than the Sensation.

The OP should have just said this:
I like the Nexus over the Sensation because I WORK FOR VERIZON
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GSM i9250 Galaxy nexus vs [INSERT ANY SMARTPHONE].. Why i kept the Nexus.
Its kinda surprising to see senior members troll. I understand you wanted to share your opinion really bad to justify your purchase but imo there is a better place to do that. I visit this forum to learn/discover something new about a device I own. I dont care why you choose GN or any other phone.

To the last two individuals, why did you read this post and comment? If you didnt care about this you wouldn't have commented..right? I dont quite understand the logic of you posting in my thread. If no one cared, people wouldnt have read nor commented this thread. Are you guys feeling good about yourselves posting such nonsense?
If i liked it because i work for verizon, i would have got the lte version.
As stated, this thread is for those who wanted to know why i liked it , silly troll.
Sorry folks, it made me giggle reading those comments.

My sensation is fine. Unless quad core phones start to come out now. The nexus got so many flaws and it's overwhelming too
That's just my opinion
you had yours too
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Pikabat said:
GSM i9250 Galaxy nexus vs [INSERT ANY SMARTPHONE].. Why i kept the Nexus.
Its kinda surprising to see senior members troll. I understand you wanted to share your opinion really bad to justify your purchase but imo there is a better place to do that. I visit this forum to learn/discover something new about a device I own. I dont care why you choose GN or any other phone.
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then dont come in the thread .... its nice to see some comparisons between phones

I just bought my GN from mobile daily steals. Hasn't been shipped yet. How much are mint condition sensations selling for at present?

Thank you for the short review.
I'm currently considering getting the Motorola RAZR or the Galaxy Nexus in white.
Just can't shake the feeling that it would prolly be stupid of me to buy now, when we got new flagship phones from HTC or Samsung just around the corner.
They'll prolly announce something new at CES, so let's see

Galaxy nexus all the way..

Typical response from Sensation owners who will call you a troll if you ever say any device is better than the Sensation. Ignore them, they are absolutely ignorant. I appreciate the honest review and it seems like the same things I would notice if I switched over to the GN.
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One S: totally a downgrade from XE! No longer an option..

Yes, it's fat. There, I said it, the Sensation XE is fat and it's heavy. The One S wins hands down there. I have small hands and the One S was easier to hold, more comfortable and it felt more "right"...
But apart from taking up pocket space, what do you actually use the most on a smartphone? It's a trick question.....it's the screen.
I can't understand WHY HTC put a pentile screen on the One S. Compare the screens and the One S is an obvious downgrade from the XE. I didn't think I would mind as much, but when trying out the phone it really REALLY annoyed me. Holding them up side by side, the XE wins hands down. It just looks better.
If we look away from the possibility that it's a supply issue, that there is a lack of better screens, this is yet again clearly a sign of HTC's bad decisions of late.
The only reason I can see for using the pentile screen on the One S, is to make it obvious for potential buyers in-store that the One X is the superior phone. Spec wise, it is across the board, we all know that. But in the shop and in daily use, the difference isn't that noticable. Coming from an iPhone, you won't notice that the One S has lower specs that the X in daily use. But a consumer holding up the S and X next to each other, they will clearly see that the X is better. I think, if the S had the same display as, most MOST (but not all) would choose the S because of the size and they wouldn't care as much about the sprec. So HTC but an inferior screen in so they wouldn't compete against themselves.
The X is too big for my hands, the S is the mainstream perfect size. For now, I'm sticking with the XE and next time, I might just get a Samsung. It's the only way I can show HTC, by how I use my money. Ranting here sure won't help hehe.
HTC need a reality check, like STUCK plummeting, important people getting fired, good staff going to Samsung.

Agreed. I owned a One S for a period of two days. Totally disappointed with the Screen, battery and functionality.
And I also agree, my XE wins hands down, and I was glad to be using it afterwards.
I have a friend who works in "A big Phone Retailer" who has never seen so many returns with the whole range.
HTC needs to change their strategy, because it's losing customers with the "ONE" range. I am one of them.
Regards to the OP.

I'm up for my tmo contract at the end of this year but I could get a discount on a new phone now and I'm definitely NOT going with the one S. I just don't see any benefit using it over the sensation. I'm hoping Tmo gets the GS 3 when it comes out but I'm not holding my breath with that since they were the last of the major us carriers to get the gs 2.
The other option is going with the elephant sized galaxy note, but I really don't think that's for me.

kingston73 said:
I'm up for my tmo contract at the end of this year but I could get a discount on a new phone now and I'm definitely NOT going with the one S. I just don't see any benefit using it over the sensation. I'm hoping Tmo gets the GS 3 when it comes out but I'm not holding my breath with that since they were the last of the major us carriers to get the gs 2.
The other option is going with the elephant sized galaxy note, but I really don't think that's for me.
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Agreed, I dont see how any one can make use of such a big device on the daily basis.

my father is getting one in the mail on monday, i cant wait to put it against my sensation

Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.

Tirozz said:
Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.
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Umm... Hardly...
It is an mid-upper range device.
It costs around 400 quid new.

So much rationalization in these forums.
Sensation vs SII, oh the Sensation feels faster than the SII (even though benchmarks and neutral users/reviewers all agree that the SII is a faster device) and the screen of the SII may be better than the Sensation but who cares, etc.
Now you have the One S, which is way faster than the Sensation with a worse screen, most people are still rationalizing about how the Sensation is a much superior device.
If that is the case, then the SII would have been the obvious choice from the beginning if all you want is a good display.

Not really sure what your point is?

kingston73 said:
Not really sure what your point is?
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Stop using the screen as an argument for rationalizing about a device you own or to discredit a phone that's markedly faster.
The same people that have been hating on the SII did not care about the screen quality even though the device is faster.
Now you have a new device that has a worse screen that's way faster than the Sensation but the same people that did not care for the display of a device are hating on it BECAUSE of its screen.
Double standards much?

Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. The screen to me is a non-issue, I still don't see the one S being an upgrade over the sensation. Faster? In daily use or just in benchmarks? My biggest issue with it is the lack of storage, I used to have a 16 gb sd card and between music, video, and backups it got filled pretty quickly.
The battery isn't great but I could live with it, although if I'm on a trip away from home it's nice to know if I run out I have a backup battery I can just pop in the phone and go.

I wouldn't say it's a downgrade... but there's no compelling reason to upgrade.
While the chipset, camera, and dimensions are better - the screen is iffy (AMOLED but pentile), limited to 16 GB, and no real option (yet) to install a larger battery.
If they supported TMO AWS, I would probably be looking at the Xperia S. Slightly smaller than the Sensation with a 720p screen, more ram, better camera, etc. With the latest rumors that the GSIII has a 4.8" screen... I'm not sure I really want anything like that.

kingston73 said:
Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. The screen to me is a non-issue, I still don't see the one S being an upgrade over the sensation. Faster? In daily use or just in benchmarks? My biggest issue with it is the lack of storage, I used to have a 16 gb sd card and between music, video, and backups it got filled pretty quickly.
The battery isn't great but I could live with it, although if I'm on a trip away from home it's nice to know if I run out I have a backup battery I can just pop in the phone and go.
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Those are all valid reasons and I respect that and even agree with them.
What I think is absolutely ridiculous and stupid is the sheer amount of double standards and rationalization that a large number of people here tend to exhibit.

Tirozz said:
Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.
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No, the One V is the 'budget' one of the range.

My sensation(running aokp) is an excellent phone and development is outstanding but the sense OS really sucks so I wont be buying a One S. Might try a samsung handset but after rooting and flashing 3 samsungs for friends and family huge PTA by the way I might have to jump ship altogether.

I don't get the point of this rant. Tech-wise, One S is far superior to the One X in my opinion. I mean, apart from the screen, the One X has very little going for it. Tegra3 is a massive disappointment (just like Tegra2 was), and pales in comparison to Snapdragon 4 when it comes to the things that matter for a phone: Speed and battery life.
Yes, One S runs at a lower resolution, so it is close to 'cheating' since we are not comparing like-to-like. One S would probably be a much inferior experience to One X, if it was to run at the same (higher) resolution.
But we are comparing consumer experiences here, and that's where One S absolutely beats One X hands down. It feels faster (even on stock), and its battery life is one of the best I have seen on a phone. It regularly stays alive for over 3-4 days on a single charge, with data and sync on.
Plus, although Pentile, the Super AMOLED is still a work of beauty, delivering incredible colours and blacks. The only thing One X (and XE) have going for them is that S-LCD offers superior pixel density and does not have jagged-lines.
But One S is smaller, lighter, and clearly the better device.

grcd said:
I don't get the point of this rant.
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I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.

lianw said:
I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
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agreed!
I think I see it 99% every time a new awsm phone comes out

lianw said:
Those are all valid reasons and I respect that and even agree with them.
What I think is absolutely ridiculous and stupid is the sheer amount of double standards and rationalization that a large number of people here tend to exhibit.
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You have been on a discussion board before....right? :what:
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lianw said:
I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
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You're very unique on forums, and I can relate, because we think a lot alike. No matter what comes out, people will always find a way to argue that the Sensation is the better device. It's not unique behavior to the Sensation, nor is it unique to phones (I see the same behavior on car forums I'm on). Saying that the One S is undeniably worse is unreasonable. What would make sense is to say that you don't feel that the One S is enough of an improvement to justify jumping for it. For me, I really care about the display on a phone, and I've read enough bad things about the One S and its bad display to avoid it. I don't really get the rationalization behavior, though. It only took me 3 weeks after getting my Sensation way back when to wish I had waited to get the GS2 instead. I was also very vocal on this forum about how I thought the Sensation was nice for my first Android, but how I was also underwhelmed by it (especially the performance and screen) and I posted a lot in the early Sensation vs. GS2 threads about how I as a Sensation owner had to cede that the GS2 was the better overall device.
Back a little bit on topic, I have to say that I'm really disappointed in the trend we're seeing with Android devices. I really want the One X's screen, but the overall size of the One X is too big for me. The One S has the form factor I want, but not the screen. The GS3 is receiving major hype right now, but we can be fairly confident that it too will have a large 4.6"+ display and consequently large dimensions, so I don't think I can get the GS3 unless they manage to make the screen nearly edge to edge. Will we ever see 4.3" display devices that also get top of the line specs again?

Should I buy the HTC ONE S ?

Hi.
I need your help. I'm confused about that device because I read about his problems (For example: THE Sensitive button).
And about his poor battery life which can't survive for one full day..
And that I can get only 10GB of RAM, so I can't put much apps/movies/music/photos.
And I hope that it doesn't get too hot in heavy / easy use.
But I still like this model.
I'm wondering if I should buy this model or to buy Galaxy s2 / something else.
(I don't want big screen - 4.3 is enough for me P: )
- Do you recommend me to buy it or to buy something else?
- Please tell me everything you know about this model - the good and the bad
It's really important for me.

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LalyGirl said:
Hi.
I need your help. I'm confused about that device because I read about his problems (For example: THE Sensitive button).
And about his poor battery life which can't survive for one full day..
And that I can get only 10GB of RAM, so I can't put much apps/movies/music/photos.
And I hope that it doesn't get too hot in heavy / easy use.
But I still like this model.
I'm wondering if I should buy this model or to buy Galaxy s2 / something else.
(I don't want big screen - 4.3 is enough for me P: )
- Do you recommend me to buy it or to buy something else?
- Please tell me everything you know about this model - the good and the bad
It's really important for me.
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Battery life - User dependant. Also other factors can impact this such as signal strength, type of data used, screen brightness. Looking at the battery stats thread it seems fine, better than my HOX and that's saying something.
10GB of user space available. 4GB for system & 2GB for apps. Plenty for apps. You have 10gb available to you for music, movies, photos etc. For some this is enough for others not so much. But with the ability to sync items to cloud storage for most it shouldn't be an issue.
Heat - Can't comment, but from various reading it seems cooler than other devices.
Not got the device but comparing to let's say the SGS2 this seems to have a higher resolution screen despite having a pentile screen.
Audio - Read it has one of the cleanest outputs on a mobile device, not heard it personally but it should be fine.
CPU - The S4 is one of the best dual cores around, so much there is a shortage and pretty soon they will switch to the S3. So grab the S4 version whilst you still can. It's plenty fast and outbenches some of the quads out there.
Sense - HTC's overlay, you'll love it or hate it. I love it. Has good contact management, lovely widgets, good for social networking, and such but can be a memory hog.
Camera - HTC has done a good job on the camera front. Like my HOX I like the pictures that it takes and the burst mode is a blessing. The software is also good and easy to use.
LED - This has a notification light, albeit 2 colours only compared to some other devices but at least it has one.
To sum it up it's a good mid range device. And should serve you well. Not having the device myself I'm only giving you my thoughts from reading reviews and taking some parts of my HOX.

nikzDHD said:
Battery life - User dependant. Also other factors can impact this such as signal strength, type of data used, screen brightness. Looking at the battery stats thread it seems fine, better than my HOX and that's saying something.
10GB of user space available. 4GB for system & 2GB for apps. Plenty for apps. You have 10gb available to you for music, movies, photos etc. For some this is enough for others not so much. But with the ability to sync items to cloud storage for most it shouldn't be an issue.
Heat - Can't comment, but from various reading it seems cooler than other devices.
Not got the device but comparing to let's say the SGS2 this seems to have a higher resolution screen despite having a pentile screen.
Audio - Read it has one of the cleanest outputs on a mobile device, not heard it personally but it should be fine.
CPU - The S4 is one of the best dual cores around, so much there is a shortage and pretty soon they will switch to the S3. So grab the S4 version whilst you still can. It's plenty fast and outbenches some of the quads out there.
Sense - HTC's overlay, you'll love it or hate it. I love it. Has good contact management, lovely widgets, good for social networking, and such but can be a memory hog.
Camera - HTC has done a good job on the camera front. Like my HOX I like the pictures that it takes and the burst mode is a blessing. The software is also good and easy to use.
LED - This has a notification light, albeit 2 colours only compared to some other devices but at least it has one.
To sum it up it's a good mid range device. And should serve you well. Not having the device myself I'm only giving you my thoughts from reading reviews and taking some parts of my HOX.
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I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.

LalyGirl said:
I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.
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I'd say think about longer term, it's an older device. The One S is the newer device and I'd be thinking about Jelly Bean the next android version. One S being newer would more likely be quicker to get it than the XE. It'll have more support from HTC.
Looking at the specs of both phones:
HOS is faster,
HOS reportedly has better battery life,
HOS has better screen in regards to viewing angles and sunlight compared to the first generation SLCD, again this could be subjective,
HOS is thinner and ligther,
HOS has the better camera,
HOS has native Sense 4 support,
HOS has 1gb of RAM compared to XEs 768MB,
You'll enjoy either but if you can I'd opt for the HOS if storage space isn't that important to you.

LalyGirl said:
I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.
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I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.

Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.

nikzDHD said:
I'd say think about longer term, it's an older device. The One S is the newer device and I'd be thinking about Jelly Bean the next android version. One S being newer would more likely be quicker to get it than the XE. It'll have more support from HTC.
Looking at the specs of both phones:
HOS is faster,
HOS reportedly has better battery life,
HOS has better screen in regards to viewing angles and sunlight compared to the first generation SLCD, again this could be subjective,
HOS is thinner and ligther,
HOS has the better camera,
HOS has native Sense 4 support,
HOS has 1gb of RAM compared to XEs 768MB,
You'll enjoy either but if you can I'd opt for the HOS if storage space isn't that important to you.
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Ok so I will stay with the one s.
And how is the speaker of the hos/hox ?
Nick L said:
I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.
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THANK U! and i don't understand you, which one is better - 1.7 GHz or 1.5GHz ?
Terminator19 said:
Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.
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So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?

LalyGirl said:
Ok so I will stay with the one s.
And how is the speaker of the hos/hox ?
THANK U! and i don't understand you, which one is better - 1.7 GHz or 1.5GHz ?
So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?
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Speaker for the HOX is fine, not as loud as say the SGS3 but it's consistent where as the SGS3 can be distorted on higher volumes. I prefer the ringtone sounds out of the HOX than SGS3.

Nick L said:
I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.
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Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.
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Speaker for the HOX is fine, not as loud as say the SGS3 but it's consistent where as the SGS3 can be distorted on higher volumes. I prefer the ringtone sounds out of the HOX than SGS3.
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Ok and when you use your smartphone as a cellphone (Make a call to someone), so how does the person on the other side hear you? Clean? Horrible ? Loud?

LalyGirl said:
So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?
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Yup, I love it!
Thanks
Speaker is great, better than the GS 2 all round.
Here is what GSMarena had to say about the audio:
The cleanest audio output we have seen
The HTC One S performance in our audio quality test came as a really pleasant surprise to us. It appears that the Beats influence hasn't been limited to a single equalizer preset this time as the smartphone delivers the cleanest output we have seen from any device so far.
When connected to an active external amplifier, the HTC One S audio is simply flawless - volume levels are a little above average and it got excellent scores on every part of our test.
What's most impressive though is the One S retains virtually the same performance when you plug in a pair of headphones. The stereo crosstalk takes the tiniest dip of any smartphone we've seen so far, while the rest of the readings are either totally unaffected or worsen by an undetectable amount. Volume levels remain the same too, so it's arguably the most impressive overall performance to date.
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Ok and when you use your smartphone as a cellphone (Make a call to someone), so how does the person on the other side hear you? Clean? Horrible ? Loud?
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Very good! Call quality is great for me.
Loud (can adjust the volume) and clean.
You have dual mics, so any background noise is blocked out Obviously extreme noise like cars racing right beside you and loud music might not be completely blocked out and besides you won't be able to make the other person out anyway

Terminator19 said:
Yup, I love it!
Thanks
Speaker is great, better than the GS 2 all round.
Here is what GSMarena had to say about the audio:
Very good! Call quality is great for me.
Loud (can adjust the volume) and clean.
You have dual mics, so any background noise is blocked out Obviously extreme noise like cars racing right beside you and loud music might not be completely blocked out and besides you won't be able to make the other person out anyway
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So far, I see that people prefer HTS ONE S
That's nice, and now I really want it XDDDDD

I've just upgraded to this phone from the Desire S. I was thinking about getting the One X or the S3 too but I want a high end mobile phone not a mini tablet. This phone is amazing coming from a rooted desire S, its so fast and smooth I don't plan on rooting it.
My advise is to simply get this phone.

pumpernickel77 said:
I've just upgraded to this phone from the Desire S. I was thinking about getting the One X or the S3 too but I want a high end mobile phone not a mini tablet. This phone is amazing coming from a rooted desire S, its so fast and smooth I don't plan on rooting it.
My advise is to simply get this phone.
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Ok, I think I'll buy it

Jesus christ, how old are you?
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iArtisan said:
Jesus christ, how old are you?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA
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Are you asking me or someone else?

1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.

wilcoholic said:
1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.
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OK, So do you recommend me to buy it ??
Or should I buy the sony xperia s ??

wilcoholic said:
1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.
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Once again, all of that is in YOUR opinion and from your usage only as well, plenty of people including me have had the exact opposite to you. Just because you experience problems doesn't mean that every one else will....
1. Is that on screen time your talking about? If so that is very good! (depending on usage and screen brightness) No other android phone gets anywhere near that unless the screens are set to like 0% and airplane mode enabled for a bit. Just look at my review and you will see the usage that I am getting from a single charge, now go and find me an android phone on stock ROM with a stock battery that can beat that (apart from the motorola razzr for obvious reasons). The iphone 4/4s also seem to have a problem with battery life for quite a few people, heck apple have even released a number of updates iirc to try and fix the battery drain
Plus don't forget that the iphone 4/4s doesn't have the same amount to do as an android phone.
2. The MAO issue is not a "hardware" problem, but a design fault.... Also I have had my phone since release day and still have no signs of chipping anywhere apart from inside the USB port plus HTC have addressed this now as they have got a design, which has a bevelled USB and less sharper edges. Well you were extremely lucky with your 4s then as due to the build of it and being mostly glass, the screen is almost always guaranteed to shatter when dropped......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
It all depends on where abouts the ground impacts the mobile, you could be lucky or not so lucky with any device. If you want to be safe than sorry then a case is a necessary item for all mobiles, even the GS 2. Some devices are just more durable than others.
I have had no problems with dust getting under my screen, had my mobile since April, yes dust does gather in the front camera part, however, a quick blow and wipe with a pencil in a cloth sorts that problem out.
Emmmm what? The volume is amplified a wee bit when it is placed on the desk due to that reason, you can raise the volume as well you know or use a louder ring tone, you must be pretty deaf if you can't hear your mobile ringing......
3. The community isn't great, but it is starting to pick up now especially since the kernel source was posted, there are a few good ROMs from what I have read such as trickdroid and leedroid. Sense is crap in your opinion, many people including me love it and I for one won't be changing to a stock ICS ROM as I don't want to loose the features of sense, which IMO are better than the alternatives. The gallery, dialer, calendar, clock app are superb and not to mention the sense camera along with all the features, which you won't find on any other mobile or stock ICS ROM. Of course the galaxy nexus is going to have a damn good developing community, it's only the official/stock android phone that all the developers use to develop apps for and was the first phone to have a 720P display. The developing community here will never be as good as the the 1X or GS 3 community as they are the "flagship" devices and the phones that everyone will go for just for because of that "term"
Also the tegra chipset is apparently proving to be hard to work with for the developers with the 1X due to nvidia lack of support.
What are these bugs you speak off? I haven't had any problems with mine, super stable, super quick and smooth, multi-tasking is fine as I have disabled a lot of sense stuff and apps that I don't need and am using apex etc. instead.
If you look at my other post addressing issues you will see that I don't have the 3G/H bug, along with many other people.
The iphone is well known to have signal issues as well, not remember the 4 or 4s release where people were complaining about terrible signal, and apple said essentially "you're holding the phone the wrong way" and had to give out free bumper cases to solve the issue as it was a problem with the new antenna that they were using......
4. There is no problem with the screen, sure it ain't 720P and doesn't use RGB matrix, but it is perfectly good and better than most other mobiles screens apart from the ones you mentioned along with a couple of SE mobiles. The screen is nice and sharp still, the only areas I notice the pentile matrix is with white text on black backgrounds and some icons and even still I have to put my eyes right up to the screen. Plus the reason HTC went with with the pentile version is because the battery life is better with it than the RGB version (same reason Samsung went with pentile on the GS 3 instead of RGB). What kind of trouble have you run into with all these apps that you speak of because of the screen? What on earth are you talking about again??? Youtube videos will look crap no matter what settings you put them on??? The youtube videos look great.
Seriously, it sounds to me like you have a faulty one s if that is truly what you are experiencing.......
And after all that you still think the 1S is the best android device there is

LalyGirl said:
OK, So do you recommend me to buy it ??
Or should I buy the sony xperia s ??
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Just buy it. It's a fine phone. These have been snapped up by many in the UK past few days due to a cheap contract deal so many more HOS users in the pipeline.
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I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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Roundtableprez said:
I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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What's so amazing about this phone?

louis.b said:
What's so amazing about this phone?
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
Fastest android mobile currently
IMO sense V4
Regarding the first post, developers won't go by "user reviews" on shop sites, they will look into all the hardware detail and kernel source/drivers/software stuff etc. and if they like what they see then they will buy it.

Terminator19 said:
Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
Terminator19 said:
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
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Agreed, and now that they seem to have done something about the metal arc oxidation issues its build quality is great.
Terminator19 said:
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
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Yes, yes and yes, the Beats gimmick aside the regular audio output is of very good quality as GSMArena's measurements show. Camera is a delight to use, although the S3 version has a small buffer lag between shots. Battery life, surprisingly, seems to be very similar between the S3 and S4 models.
Terminator19 said:
Fastest android mobile currently
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The S4 version yes, the S3 version no.
IMO sense V4
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Yes, Sense 4 is really good, better than TouchWiz although I suspect most people on XDA prefer stock Android if it means faster updates
Personally, I think the One S was a really good phone when it launched, but the change to the S3 processor has changed my view of the model significantly; it is still a good phone for what it is but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.

louis.b said:
What's so amazing about this phone?
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Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.

I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c

kenyw said:
Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
kenyw said:
but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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Completely agree about that with regards to the S3 version.
Regarding the battery and speed, I thought it was the other way round (in real world usage), battery much worse and performance isn't as good but for standard usage like games etc. there isn't a huge difference.
Doesn't help when no one has posted any info. on the battery of the S3 though i.e. screen shots and detailed info..........

jmcdonald58 said:
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.

matt310 said:
^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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Recoveries come from our local friendly developers if your recovery is a mess contact them it is no way htcs fault. I love this phone despite no s-off. And that's okay for me lol we will steal it from the Onex one day lol.
For the new radios and your crackling problem, most unlocked android devices have this issue when you unlock them I have a sidekick 4g on att right now and this on tmob and there is a compareable difference
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I absolutely love this device. I had the choice between the one s and the s3 and chose this one and am really pleased. It fits my hands perfectly and outperforms most devices. The battery life is unparalleled. I average 4 to 6 hours on screen time while some friends with s3's only get 2 hours with power saving on. The lack of s off is little annoying but not that big of a deal for me since my hboot is so low. As for the people spreading negative reviews in hopes to "teach HTC a lessons" this is a horrible approach. Operation rolling thunder should be stopped!!
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Terminator19 said:
And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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Just wanted to mention that on Tuesday 11/09/2012 i received my nice new htc one s from talktalk.co.uk ( run on vodafone network) and it is a Z560e model (Ville C aka S3) version, personally i am not to bothered but figured worth mention for anyone who maybe intrested in UK

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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.

My One S
My S one is about 5 months old. After years as a Nokia fan-boy I finally gave in and reluctantly jumped ship. So I was presented with a problem: Which phone do I get. I won't be taking up a place in a queue for the new iPhone 5 with the iSheep - as a Ubuntu user getting an android was a no-brainer. I chose the One S because 1/ it wasn't Samsung (my personal prejudice) 2/ the One X was slightly too big for my taste.
I know Nokia missed a very big boat by sticking with Symbian for so long, but on a personal level I was happy because I know them inside out I can mod them easily and enjoyed playing about with them despite the limitations. In fact the limitations made it more of a challenge and more interesting.Eventually the lack of progress Symbian was making, combined with the fact that Nokia jumped in to bed with Micros*#t forced my hand. So to be honest, I waited for T-Mobile to deliver my One S with very little enthusiasm. That's changed. I love my One S.
So as it's my first Android I can't say its any better or worse than a Galaxy III, a WildFire or a Nexus. I do know that I am very happy with it. On the hardware side I am happy about the lovely big screen, the slim casing and the nice finish. I am very happy with the processor speed and flawless screen refresh. Battery life could be better, but I will never be happy with battery life. Software wise, I am happy that there are people out there making ROMs which while flawed are keeping me very busy and making me feel like I have a new phone every week or so. I am happy that I have a JB based ROM while HTC has yet to release the "official" JB for the One S.
Which is all a long winded way of saying I love it.

avetny said:
? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
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Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
matt310 said:
Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!

Terminator19 said:
Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
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Wow! Terminator 1 - troll 0 :good:

Closed Source Project said:
Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.

laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.

pookipsy said:
laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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Biased? lol yeah right I dont even own those phones. And to say that sense 4.0 is smoother than Touchcrap 4.0 and iOS5 is just outright lying. Yes it's smoother than sense 3.0 but it's still laggy and I have been following the One X long enough to know that A LOT OF people complain about how laggy sense 4.0 was.
And FYI people dont ask about HTC not because HTC doesnt advertise enough. As a matter of fact a lot people know about them. They just dont buy them because HTC has the reputation of making buggy phones. And as a former owner of 2 HTC phones I cant say I disagree.

louis.b said:
Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
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You got an S3, didn't you? I'm sorry about that and have been quite out-spoken about HTC's idiotic behavior regarding other countries, but the S4 One S is a great piece of machinery.

I have never had on hands experience with the S3 version so can't comment on it, however, when I have had my S4 one S side by side with the GS 3 (quad) and the 4s, the one S has been quicker/snappier/instant smartphone and the GS 3 appears smoother overall, although this is largely down to the animations and the animation scaling used, when JB arrives on both phones there should be no difference at all then really, in terms of smoothness.
I have found the 4s/4 to be laggy in quite a few places personally and not as silky smooth as what many people make it out to be.
Also, the one X hardware (tegra 3) was very poorly optimized with sense/ICS, when the mobile was first released, it was so laggy and nowhere as instant as the one S (S4), since the last update it has improved somewhat, however, still not as good as the S (S4) and GS 3, with JB it should be much better as the nexus 7 has the exact same hardware and it is smoother and faster than both the GS 3 and S, of course assuming HTC don't **** up with driver optimisation on sense Vxx whatever it will be with JB.
Regarding why people don't get HTC handsets, yes for some reason people seem to think they're an awful company with poor phones, I would have agreed with some of their phones (largely the desire HD, IMO their worst phone), however, most of their phones (especially the one series) are actually very good and out of the people I know who have a HTC android device have been very happy with theirs and not had any problems (a lot of people absolutely love sense, the homescreen and widgets impresses the "average joes" a lot). And it does largely come down to marketing/brand in the end, as in the UK here, the majority of ads that I see on TV, posters on bus stops etc. is for the GS 3, iphone, GS 2, galaxy ACE & Ace 2 (the Ace mobiles are bundled with very good network deals though, the ads aren't actually for the phones themselves) along with a few for the one X and virtually no ads at all for the one S (still have not seen a single ad on TV for the one S), people automatically recognise the GS 3 and iphones where as with the likes of HTC phones people aren't sure about them and automatically think they aren't good since they never heard of them.
It is a shame because HTC did start the "empire" of android with the hero, desire and nexus one, dread to think where android would be now if it weren't for them.

[Q] Gah; Handset Insanity! Help me choose my next phone

I know that you guys probably see dozens of these kinds of threads from confused geeks like me who just can't make up their minds, but I'm really stuck here. I've been up for hours reading about all of the handsets on the market right now and I just can't settle on one option that I like the best for my situation. I'm hoping that some of the more experienced users can help me out on this.
For context, I've been using an HTC Desire for the past two years no problem. I love the phone, but it is showing it's age and the internal memory is an issue. So I would like to get a new one, that can last me at the very least two more years. My budget is around 600 dollars.
I live in Canada, so the situation with carriers is pretty bad. I'm currently on Telus (HSPA+) and would prefer to own my phone so that I can bypass this whole contract crap and negotiate better prices for my monthly bills.
Anyways, boiled down, this is what I'm looking for:
Compatible with Telus HSPA+ Network (Rogers is a plus)
Either a MicroSD slot or 32+ onboard storage
At least 24 hours of battery life on a single charge
Decent performance, don't really play games but would like a lag free interface
Healthy hacking community
Good build quality and durability. It should be able to take a fall
Flash camera. Camera quality is a negligible factor but I use the flashlight every day.
Out of all of the devices I've seen thus far, I'm leaning most towards the OneX+. But I've also looked at the Galaxy Nexus and liked it as well. There is also the SGS3 but I think that phone is really ugly and don't really like it. Choices... choices... can I hear a voice of reason here?

What do you think about a Motorola Atrix 4G. It have a dual-core CPU (1Ghz), 16Go of internal memory + MicroSD slot up to 32Go. HSPA+ compatible, a great assembly quality with Kevlar. A high-capacity battery (more than one day of autonomy). A good healthed developers community.
I think it's the best phone for your requirements. It's not the all brand new smartphone, but you'll keep it for a longtime if you take care of it
GoL LuM
PS: I forgot to say it have two very powerful LEDs flash (more powerful than Galaxy S2 flash)
Sorry for my bad english
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GoL LuM said:
What do you think about a Motorola Atrix 4G. It have a dual-core CPU (1Ghz), 16Go of internal memory + MicroSD slot up to 32Go. HSPA+ compatible, a great assembly quality with Kevlar. A high-capacity battery (more than one day of autonomy). A good healthed developers community.
I think it's the best phone for your requirements. It's not the all brand new smartphone, but you'll keep it for a longtime if you take care of it
GoL LuM
PS: I forgot to say it have two very powerful LEDs flash (more powerful than Galaxy S2 flash)
Sorry for my bad english
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I hadn't though of that one actually. From the looks of it, everything that I want is there. However, from the development pages, it looks like Motorola is being quite active in suppressing the hacking community, especially by not providing them graphics drivers which leads to numerous bugs in ICS and JB. That might be a deal breaker for me unless an Atrix4G owner can weigh in and clear my suspicions.

Note 2 if that isn't too big for u! Idk y u don't like s3 but 20million + people who bought it can't go wrong! and u oughtta sacrifice somethin to gain somethin! Just sayin. Ur wish! And BTW one x + is great. Isn't nexus4 there? Cuz nexus is already too old!
Ps - and don't ever think of buying moto. I myself own an atrix2. They r too unresponsive / ignorant about their customers. Worst OEM ever. And they have everything locked down (bootloader), so not really much of development!

Lifehacker7 said:
Note 2 if that isn't too big for u! Idk y u don't like s3 but 20million + people who bought it can't go wrong! and u oughtta sacrifice somethin to gain somethin! Just sayin. Ur wish! And BTW one x + is great. Isn't nexus4 there? Cuz nexus is already too old!
Ps - and don't ever think of buying moto. I myself own an atrix2. They r too unresponsive / ignorant about their customers. Worst OEM ever. And they have everything locked down (bootloader), so not really much of development!
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The Note2 is far to big for my tiny hands, haha. The reason I don't like the S3 is because of the garish chamfered edges and the design that basically screams "no we aren't copying apple" while not offering any real inspired design. It's just too unrelentingly samsung. While Moto might be the worst OEM, I think samsung is pretty close.
Nexus 4 is out of the question because of it's pathetic amount of internal storage and no MicroSD slot. Also it is basically a glass enclosed phone so it won't have the durability of something like the one x+.
Honestly, I think I am going to go with the One X+ because it seems that it has the best internal battery, great specs, though I will probably hobble it a bit for extra battery life with a more efficient kernel. Also it seems that it could survive re-entry into the atmosphere with that fused ceramic/metal enclosure.
Then again... I might just go with the S3. I mean it is butt ugly but it has everything that I want in a phone. MicroSD, removable battery, nice screen, hacking community... damn. It's really not making it easy on my that the phone costs 150 dollars less than the OneX+. Plus the button is on the side as opposed to the top, which is nice.

CentiZen said:
I know that you guys probably see dozens of these kinds of threads from confused geeks like me who just can't make up their minds, but I'm really stuck here. I've been up for hours reading about all of the handsets on the market right now and I just can't settle on one option that I like the best for my situation. I'm hoping that some of the more experienced users can help me out on this.
For context, I've been using an HTC Desire for the past two years no problem. I love the phone, but it is showing it's age and the internal memory is an issue. So I would like to get a new one, that can last me at the very least two more years. My budget is around 600 dollars.
I live in Canada, so the situation with carriers is pretty bad. I'm currently on Telus (HSPA+) and would prefer to own my phone so that I can bypass this whole contract crap and negotiate better prices for my monthly bills.
Anyways, boiled down, this is what I'm looking for:
Compatible with Telus HSPA+ Network (Rogers is a plus)
Either a MicroSD slot or 32+ onboard storage
At least 24 hours of battery life on a single charge
Decent performance, don't really play games but would like a lag free interface
Healthy hacking community
Good build quality and durability. It should be able to take a fall
Flash camera. Camera quality is a negligible factor but I use the flashlight every day.
Out of all of the devices I've seen thus far, I'm leaning most towards the OneX+. But I've also looked at the Galaxy Nexus and liked it as well. There is also the SGS3 but I think that phone is really ugly and don't really like it. Choices... choices... can I hear a voice of reason here?
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man all this screams SGS3 and your better off getting it. everyone has said how much they love it. I would avoid htc though, theyve been changing for the worse...