[Q] Able to upgrade my phone on T-Mobile soon - which one should I get? - General Questions and Answers

Hi guys, I will be eligible for an upgrade on September 10th on T-Mobile, and I'm having a hard time trying to decide on which one I want to get.
The main two that I am looking at right now are the HTC Sensation 4G, and the Samsung Galaxy S2 (once it comes out for T-Mobile USA). The Samsung Galaxy S2 seems like the better choice, but I've heard that it won't come out until October 26th. Is this true? If its worth it I could wait that long, but I'd rather not. Also, I've heard that the screen on the T-Mobile version of the Galaxy S2 will be 4.5". That seems a little bit too big for me, since I have a MyTouch 3G right now. Is the size of the phone too big to be comfortable to use and carry around? Its hard to resist though because of the battery life, performance, and the awesome screen..
The HTC Sensation 4G sounds like a good phone too, but I've seen that on Quadrant the HTC Sensation 4G gets around 2000, and the Samsung Galaxy S2 gets around 3000. That's a pretty big difference.
Which phone do you guys think I should go for? Any phone would be better than the one I have right now. I've been waiting for a long time to finally upgrade.
P.S. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I didn't really know where to put this.

Qualcomm's S3, or 1st Gen dual core snapdragons are asynchronous, meaning most of the time only 1 core is active, for energy reasons. The phone is still fast, its just that the benchmarks don't push the CPU to activate both cores, making the score lower than normal. The SGSII on the other hand, has both cores on all the time, which is bad for battery, but processes get split b/t the 2 cores, making it really fast all the time too.
"Qualcomm’s implementation of asynchronous processing as key to the dual-core chips leading performance and lower power consumption as both cores do not need to be used for lower-powered tasks."
I know I say this all the time, well recently anyway, but you should get a native ICS device instead, they'll be worth it more. Normally I don't get things with the 1st series of its kind, I would wait till mobile dual cores get better, which they have since 1.5GHz+ duals, are coming later this year, Q4. And you might also want that 720P HD screen, and no buttons, and smaller bezel and all that stuff...

I would wait for the Galaxy S II. Simply because it's awesome.

Ace42 said:
Qualcomm's S3, or 1st Gen dual core snapdragons are asynchronous, meaning most of the time only 1 core is active, for energy reasons. The phone is still fast, its just that the benchmarks don't push the CPU to activate both cores, making the score lower than normal. The SGSII on the other hand, has both cores on all the time, which is bad for battery, but processes get split b/t the 2 cores, making it really fast all the time too.
"Qualcomm’s implementation of asynchronous processing as key to the dual-core chips leading performance and lower power consumption as both cores do not need to be used for lower-powered tasks."
I know I say this all the time, well recently anyway, but you should get a native ICS device instead, they'll be worth it more. Normally I don't get things with the 1st series of its kind, I would wait till mobile dual cores get better, which they have since 1.5GHz+ duals, are coming later this year, Q4. And you might also want that 720P HD screen, and no buttons, and smaller bezel and all that stuff...
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That doesn't make much sense to me. I've seen from a couple people that the battery life on the HTC Sensation 4G isn't very good, but the battery life on the Samsung Galaxy S2 is pretty good.
And also, I haven't really kept up-to-date with all the new phones, and I have no idea when a phone with ICS will be out. I'd like to get a new phone as soon as possible, as I'm getting kind of tired of my MyTouch 3G. Its been a good phone, but it is just too outdated and slow now.

MattDrumz said:
That doesn't make much sense to me. I've seen from a couple people that the battery life on the HTC Sensation 4G isn't very good, but the battery life on the Samsung Galaxy S2 is pretty good.
And also, I haven't really kept up-to-date with all the new phones, and I have no idea when a phone with ICS will be out. I'd like to get a new phone as soon as possible, as I'm getting kind of tired of my MyTouch 3G. Its been a good phone, but it is just too outdated and slow now.
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The battery life is supposed to be better since it's asynchronous now, meaning both cores aren't used unless needed for the process or app. My point before was that the benchmark isn't making both cores activate, leading to only 1 being on-so the overall score would be lower than the Exynos in the SGSII.

Ace42 said:
The battery life is supposed to be better since it's asynchronous now, meaning both cores aren't used unless needed for the process or app. My point before was that the benchmark isn't making both cores activate, leading to only 1 being on-so the overall score would be lower than the Exynos in the SGSII.
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Oh, I get what you're saying now. I'm still leaning towards waiting for the SGSII.

MattDrumz said:
Oh, I get what you're saying now. I'm still leaning towards waiting for the SGSII.
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Both phones are great, but the Hercules, which if turns out to be the SGSII will be worth the wait...But if the N Prime comes out around the SGSII release, get that instead.

I'd go for the dell venue pro personally

With Tmobie, the Galaxy SII will be like.. 4.5" screen ... That's big .. Too big for a cell phone...
I'm on the same case and I'll be buying an Htc Sensation tomorrow, since I can't wait
I'm on TMobile.
Thanks

I would suggest you wait for SGSII. It will be worth it.
Also, keep an eye on the release dates of Prime. If both of their release dates coincides by a fair margin (I doubt this), then go with the latter phone.

Get the g2x
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From what people are saying, I think I will go with the SGSII, unless the Nexus Prime comes out at the same time.
Does anybody know if the release date for the SGSII is still supposed to be October 26th? I was hoping it would be released in September like it was rumored it would. Also, do you think it will be about $200 with an upgrade when it comes out?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make the right decision.
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I very much enjoy the versatility of the htc sensation 4g with the Android Revolution HD 3.6.11 rom.

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[Q] Samsung Captivate or G2

I have the chance to get a new phone, and I have decided its going to be between the G2 and the Samsung Captivate. I'm on the AT&T network, and I'm probably not gonna have data, so the speeds of data and 2G/3G network speeds shouldn't be that much of a factor. I did research on them and both of them seem pretty good but I'm not sure which of the two I should actually get.
I do text a lot so the keyboard on the G2 would be a little helpful, but the Captivate has that nice Super AMOLED screen. I do however plan to be doing a lot with the phone, like rooting it, so please keep that in mind as well.
What would some of you suggest? Any help would be great. Thanks.
Captivate.
Don't know much about the g2 but I do currently own a captivate and its a great phone very easy too root and install roms. I would start from there research which one is easier too root and which ones have the best roms and what not.
Never was a big fan of a physical keyboard. so I can tell you that the typing on the captivate is pretty accurate. Also the screen is bigger! Lol but enough about my bias opinion just find out the hacking capabilities of both as well and go from there
But to make a long story short like the guy ahead of me.
Captivate FTW
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If you plan to stick with the stock ROM then get the G2. Otherwise, get the Captivate. With a custom ROM the Galaxy S phones blow all the others away.
Both are great phones, but I think all of the people recommending the Captivate are forgetting that the G2 is sort of 'future-proof' in that it has HSDPA+ built in for T-Mobile's kinda-sorta 4G network. It's really up to you if you think you'd need that.
Another question to ask yourself is do you need a physical keyboard or not. And finally, which phone do you prefer as of right now?
Well I'm not really sure about the physical keyboard, if the touch keyboard thats on the Captivate is good, then I guess I wouldn't really need the physical keyboard. I also remember hearing that it has Swype on it as well, so I dunno if Swype is actually faster than a physical keyboard or not. The 4G connectivity would be good, but I don't have T-Mobile so it doesn't really apply to me all that much
Do you require a keyboard or have a lot to gain from having one? If so, htc Vision is your best bet in the market right now.
Otherwise, save your money because single core processors will be phased out in a matter of months.
Pickx said:
Do you require a keyboard or have a lot to gain from having one? If so, htc Vision is your best bet in the market right now.
Otherwise, save your money because single core processors will be phased out in a matter of months.
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Its funny you say that they are coming out with dual core processors but still using the same battery as single core. So imagine how fast the battery will fade on you. On top of that the price of the phone will almost double. So I give em late 4th quarter 2011 before these phone will actually blow up.
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The G2 is the fastest (other than games... its close tho) with a little overclocking, and has a clearer, smaller but less bright screen. I wish I had that extra .3" sometimes. Physical keyboard is sweet, but I can type near as well with the on screen keyboard on the galaxy s'. They also have a better vibrate-on-keypress. Did I mention that this phone is fast? Stuff just does what you tell it.
Also, I know this is just the general forum but the dual core info... I wouldn't believe much of it
If you plan on using GPS at all, stay away from the Captivate.
well said I forgot all about gps
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If you plan on using GPS at all, stay away from the Captivate.
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+1 also if u dont want to be wait for official roms get the Vision [i have a vibrant too so just saying]
Tchem said:
Its funny you say that they are coming out with dual core processors but still using the same battery as single core. So imagine how fast the battery will fade on you. On top of that the price of the phone will almost double. So I give em late 4th quarter 2011 before these phone will actually blow up.
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Double the cores doesn't always mean double the price or battery life.(Nor should people expect double the performance) Being a mobile platform, I'm sure one of the major points they worked with is battery life. Different from dual processor, which you power both cpus, both sockets, and everything on each cpu. Where as one chip, you just power one chip. Same thing goes with price. a quad core cpu is considerably less than 2 dual cores. I'm not saying that it will cost as much and use as much power as a single core, but it's not going to be as high as you think.

Nexus s or inspire??

Im using a nexus s right now. I love tthe screen on this phone and how snappy it is but I'm also on at&t. Meaning edge only. I could really care less about android 2.2 or 2.3 the thing I look for is screen quality and size. Next would be battery life. I came from an iPhone 4 and keep reverting back because of the battery life and network speed. Would you guys recommended an inspire over the nexus s? Is there anyone that has used the nexus s and iPhone 4 that can give me an unbiased opinion?
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Get it. this thing is snappy. Dont go by that crap about the processor being outdated. This thing flys. I have used my friends evo 4g, man this thing blows it away. I dont know if its the ram or the processor is tweaked up. having used a few android phones, I can say right out that this thing is snappy.
If you can live without a front facing camera I would say go for it.
I've used all the phones you mentioned and I actually own the inspire, iphone 4, and a captivate. The captivate is similar to the nexus s.
The screen size is great. It will be hard for me to move to anything less then 4.3in from now on. Clarity is also great and is on par with the iphone, but much better then the samsung AMOLED. Contrast is much better on the AMOLED, though. Blacks do not look..err.. as black like they do on an AMOLED screen, but color are definitely more accurate.
Battery life is decent considering the phone has a small battery. The iphone definitely takes the cake in this segment, but the inspire is much better then my captivate was.
Speeds are phenomenal. I'm seeing speeds close to 4000kbps and they are only going to increase as the months pass. The inspire definitely holds the edge over the other devices here.
In short, this phone rocks. It is definitely the best device you can purchase through at&t right now and with it being easy to root should be more popular then the motorola atrix. Get it! You won't be upset.
Battery life is NOT as good as an iphone4, dont get me wrong, it's close, but I do find myself having to throw it on the charger at work or charge on my 20 minute commute to get through a day. Thats actually my ONLY complaint about it. It's faster than an ip4, does more, feels better in the hand, build quality is just as good if not better, and due to the stupid design on the battery cover neither battery is removable. Just kidding, you can replace the battery on the inspire, but it is not the easiest thing in the world. Watched the ATT rep break 2 trying to sell me one.
I'd say go for the Inspire, however, I will tell you that an At&t band Nexus S just past through the FCC. There is no release date yet but you'll have that option soon.
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its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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I agree completely.. I'm probably going to pick the Inspire 4G up no matter what, but the Galaxy S II, specs-wise is intriguing. There are 2 glaring issues with the GSII though
Made by Samsung
The OS won't even support dual core until at least April and youre looking at even longer for developers to take advantage. So real world improvements with the dual core are several months out AT LEAST, and even then its almost exclusively going to be games. Sending TXT, email, phone, browsing, heck even watching video, a Snapdragon/GPU combo is more than enough. So its like cruising your Corvette in a school zone for 6 months
bkeaver said:
its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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I'm not talking about the Samsung Infuse. That's what your talking about. That is the Galaxy S 2. Engaged reported the other day about the Nexus S itself being passed through the FCC.
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Samsung is a joke in my opinion. They still have yet to release 2.2 for all their galaxy devices and keep coming out with the same galaxy devices, granted a couple extra inches added to the screen and newer versions(2.3) of touchwiz. Just my opinion again but wtf were they thinking releasing a vibrant on tmobile with a front facing camera and hspa???? Hello most vibrant owners have already made the mode themselves. Next post will be about their plastic=) Sorry but theyre a joke IMO right now
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I'm not talking about the Samsung Infuse. That's what your talking about. That is the Galaxy S 2. Engaged reported the other day about the Nexus S itself being passed through the FCC.
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the infuse is NOT the GalaxyS 2 the Infuse will have a 4.5" screen and have a single core 1.2 processor. the GalaxyS2 has a dual core 1 gig processor with a 4.3" display
bkeaver said:
the infuse is NOT the GalaxyS 2 the Infuse will have a 4.5" screen and have a single core 1.2 processor. the GalaxyS2 has a dual core 1 gig processor with a 4.3" display
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That is true, however, the phone I am talking about is just a nexus s for at&t. No dual core processor etc. Here is the link http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-nexus-s-revisits-the-fcc-this-time-with-bands-for-atandt/
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If you use gps then HTC will murder Samsung in that respect. I feel like the Nexus S was a poor choice to be the next Nexus device. It's too similar to the Galaxy S devices that have been out for quite a while. I came from the iP4 and also have a Captivate. The Inspire is fast. Really fast. I haven't noticed any lag and that's one of my biggest things. Using the Captivate is torture and I have it rooted and running Cognition.
This or the Atrix are the only really solid choices on AT&T for the next few months. The Infuse will be typical Samsung. Screen will be pretty and it will be the last of the three phones mentioned to get Gingerbread or any other updates.
The Ip4 has the best battery life of any smartphone with a 1ghz cpu IMO. I have used every highend android phone that has come out, including recently the Desire Z, Nexus S, and now the Inspire. I will skip out on the ATT 3G version of the Nexus S because at $560 with tax, it just isn't worth it espeically with other "better" phones coming out that will be the same price in the up coming months. It a good chance that the SGS 2 will be about $500 to $600 espeically with the Atrix at $500
I like the Inspire because of it's screen size, and definitly the cost per performance of it, only $430 with tax outright from ATT. IMO I don't see paying $140ish more for a phone with similar performance, on the otherhand I think if the Inspire was $500, that would be too much for the hardware.
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The Ip4 has the best battery life of any smartphone with a 1ghz cpu IMO. I have used every highend android phone that has come out, including recently the Desire Z, Nexus S, and now the Inspire. I will skip out on the ATT 3G version of the Nexus S because at $560 with tax, it just isn't worth it espeically with other "better" phones coming out that will be the same price in the up coming months. It a good chance that the SGS 2 will be about $500 to $600 espeically with the Atrix at $500
I like the Inspire because of it's screen size, and definitly the cost per performance of it, only $430 with tax outright from ATT. IMO I don't see paying $140ish more for a phone with similar performance, on the otherhand I think if the Inspire was $500, that would be too much for the hardware.
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True but the iphone is not clocked at 1ghz. it is the same cpu as ipad but clocled slower from what I have read.
I know this thread is old but I thought this information might be helpful for people who are stuck buying older phones.
I have both the Nexus S i9020A and Inspire 4G at the moment and I have made the following observations.
The Inspire HSPA connection (3mbps) is far better than the Nexus S (1mbps).
SMS fail to go through on the Nexus frequently.
Both phones are running 4.2.2 ROMs. The Inspire is far more responsive probably due to it's memory advantage over the Nexus.
The Inspire screen is larger and easier to type on and read. The colors are also more subtle and easy on the eyes.
The Nexus S screen has deeper colors but the default color profile makes the whites look yellow. Also, the pentile matrix is obvious and hard to look at.
Battery life is much better on the Inspire with 2 days of standby with WIFI, GPS, and HSPA/3G. Nexus S can only go about 12 hours with the same configuration.
The Nexus S is lighter but feels a bit more fragile.
The Nexus S is picky about which USB cables it will work with.
The Inspire camera can take finer quality pictures than the Nexus S camera.
The Nexus S is stuck with 16GB of storage while the Inspire is expanded to 32GB.
FWIW I'm on Straight Talk AT&T SIM
I own both. neither are on a mobile network, NS used to be, call quality was great. However, I literally got the Infuse about 30 minutes ago so I'm doing what I can with it to see how it is. It's pissin me off I can't get system updates bc of no SIM. I think I'm gonna work on something to put my Bionic SIM in it. I'll let you know a fair comparison of the two. so far, both, look awesome, feel awesome, both are snappy. NS4G has TONS of support, I'm about to see what that's like here for the Infuse, thats what I was coming to do when I stumbled across this. I'll post updates.
UPDATE: Already, when playing various games, I notice that the touch response on the Inspire is not nearly as sensitive as the Nexus, that's one reason I love my Nexus, is the intense screen sensitivity and of course, the screen in general. the AMOLED is amazing.

Anyone pick Infuse over GS2?

Since the GS2 does work on at&t's "4g" network and can be had with a warranty for as little as 750$ shipped anyone else trying to decide what phone to go with?
I have a inspire and infuse currently. I was thinking about selling the infuse for 500$ and the inspire for 300$ (already have buyers) and picking up a GS2 buuuut after talking to a XDA member who sold his GS2 for a infuse I'm starting to think I will just keep the Infuse and pocket the cash from the inspire sell.
Dual core sounds neat but I would rather have a 1.8oc'd single core (I think anyway ) The biggest selling point on the gs2 for me is the additional memory. I got spoiled with the infuse and the large available memory with cm7 and am already maxing out my infuse's 512 with just the widgets and apps I had before.
My inspire feels "small" screen real estate wise now compared to the infuse so not excited about going back to 4.3....
Anyone else considering these phones? What is your thought process on comparing the two?
The problem I have is dev. Work.. seems like they waiting on the att/other phone company version to drop. But I to will get the sgsII(atain.)
sent from Infuse but miss my captivate on cont. 5.5.... One day this can be as good...
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Since the GS2 does work on at&t's "4g" network and can be had with a warranty for as little as 750$ shipped anyone else trying to decide what phone to go with?
I have a inspire and infuse currently. I was thinking about selling the infuse for 500$ and the inspire for 300$ (already have buyers) and picking up a GS2 buuuut after talking to a XDA member who sold his GS2 for a infuse I'm starting to think I will just keep the Infuse and pocket the cash from the inspire sell.
Dual core sounds neat but I would rather have a 1.8oc'd single core (I think anyway ) The biggest selling point on the gs2 for me is the additional memory. I got spoiled with the infuse and the large available memory with cm7 and am already maxing out my infuse's 512 with just the widgets and apps I had before.
My inspire feels "small" screen real estate wise now compared to the infuse so not excited about going back to 4.3....
Anyone else considering these phones? What is your thought process on comparing the two?
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if you want that clock speed then plan on keeping the inspire. not that it would preform 1.8 times as good or that you will feel the need for the infuse to go over 1.4.
i havent seen a hummingbird go over 1.6 yet. i have seen snapdragons do it though. now the hummingbird processes media and open gl exremely fast and im not sure a snapdragon really competes no matter how fast it is clocked, except for floating point where snapdragon chips rule.
I have an Infuse but I'll be giving it to another family member and buying a GS2 when it becomes available on AT&T as the Attain.
The infuse is a nice refresh phone, but is pathetic seeing how some people think its worth $500 let alone $600.
If you think inspire at 4.3 is small, galaxy s2 at 4.27 is even smaller, it looks like 4 inches!
I just use my phone for emails, gps, Internet, and phone calls. Do I really need dual core for that. Haha
At least one dev will make it over sooner or later I'm not to worried about that. I was (wishfully probably) thinking the infuse's 1.2ghz was maybe "binned" higher versions and could lead to better overclocks.
I have been with At&t for 7 years and my gut tells me we wont be able to purchase the Attain until September at the earliest. I might be wrong but we got our first glimpse of the infuse almost 6 months! ago, we still don't have that for the Attain. The press release everyone was expecting more information got pushed back from the 24th with no reschedule date.
I almost just pulled the trigger on a gs2 but here comes netnerd again with his infuse propaganda!
My inspire screen does seem small compared to the infuse now, its ruined me.....
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At least one dev will make it over sooner or later I'm not to worried about that. I was (wishfully probably) thinking the infuse's 1.2ghz was maybe "binned" higher versions and could lead to better overclocks.
I have been with At&t for 7 years and my gut tells me we wont be able to purchase the Attain until September at the earliest. I might be wrong but we got our first glimpse of the infuse almost 6 months! ago, we still don't have that for the Attain. The press release everyone was expecting more information got pushed back from the 24th with no reschedule date.
I almost just pulled the trigger on a gs2 but here comes netnerd again with his infuse propaganda!
My inspire screen does seem small compared to the infuse now, its ruined me.....
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well the chip may be better quality than the sgs, but there is no indication that it is a different part number. i would think there are more infuses that can hit 1.4 that sgs's, maybe more that can hit 1.6 but im not sure we will see much more than that. many sgs's have trouble at 1300. ifmy infuse goes to 1.6 id be stoked but im not expecting it.
as far as the attain, well there should have been a conference today to annouce new products presumably. it is the same day that they announced the sgs line for america, so it that pattern holds true we will know very soon when it is released and it may come as soon as july.
As little as $700.
Wow, you guys must be swimming in money.
What i dont get it, why everyone needs the dual core and extra memory? I mean the infuse runs very fast stock from the factory. Very smooth i think, and i am coming from an apple phone.
But hey, if you just have to have the latest and greatest i can understand.
I chose the Infuse over the Galaxy S2 mostly for the huge screen, and the fact that I didn't feel like waiting for the GS2's release date. I'm concerned about dual core phones overheating while charging, and also that supporting dual cores would have a negative impact on battery life.
The G2S's benchmark results were impressive, however. A tiny part of me wishes that I'd have waited it out. A tiny, insignificant part. The infuse is awesome.
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As little as $700.
Wow, you guys must be swimming in money.
What i dont get it, why everyone needs the dual core and extra memory? I mean the infuse runs very fast stock from the factory. Very smooth i think, and i am coming from an apple phone.
But hey, if you just have to have the latest and greatest i can understand.
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my feelings exactly. i loved the captivate but felt i wanted a change. i often felt jeleous of the 4.3"phone screens but couldnt stand the black levels of many phones afer having a captivate. didnt like the captivates screen because the subpixel layout is funky and makes small text less readable, now i like the infues after getting used to the size, hope that feeling lasts. the sgs2 is great but i dont know if thereis a really significant advantage to it. the audio is not great, the graphics processing is only marginally improved, if i get a dual core it will likely be a tablet that needs some extra power to support greater screen resolution. but so far the ipad2 is the only one that actually raised the bar with graphics processing. ill wait a while for something new, or get a phone with qhd or better resolution and high contrast ratio.
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and it may come as soon as july.
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I will literally eat my shoe if that happens , we still cant even buy the att nexus s thats been on ebay for months.
700$ isn't chump change or anything but when you can get 500$ for infuse its only 200$ more.
At the end of the day after messing with memory management and doing a few galaxy s fixes (ill post what worked and didnt in a new thread) Im going to hold onto the infuse.
Is there a date for the GS2
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Is there a date for the GS2
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The Europe/Asia model is out and can be purchased online for around 750-800$ with a warranty. The GSM unit will work great on ATT's 3g and "4g".
The US model has been announced (the name anyway) but we haven't seen the device or been given a time frame. Personally I think September will be the earliest we will be able to purchase this phone but other think as soon as july.

[Q] nexus s today

Hello
I cant decide between sgs2(400€) and nexus s (250€)
Do you think this phone has still potential? or does it worth to buy this phone?
thanks
Is worth it. I mean the /system has 512mb just like the SGS II, the cache is 512mb aswell, the VM HeapSize is around 120mb, /data is 1gb, internal memory is 13gb. The camera does some nice shots (I find the macro photos pretty good), the Video Rec is pleasant enough, the browser is pretty great, the reception aswell, amazing sound quality, the display (the SAMOLED and the SC-LCD) is good, the design is quite pleasant, is made by Google (probably more updates), the bootloader is unlockable (the S2 has also athe bootloader unlocked), the RAM is sufficient just as the CPU and the GPU. But as I own both phones I gotta say that the SII is a hell of a beast. The performance is better, the camera is better, the CPU and GPU is better so in the end is your decision. The Nexus S still has something to give and is probably a long long way from it's grave. So yeah it's worth it.
Pretty much exactly as said. All the features are great on this phone, though most are done a bit better on the sgs2. The nexus is based on the sgs1 after all. The nexus is, however, far sexier.
SGSII no contest.
You want a phone that's going to last you the next few years. The Nexus S is nearing it's death (the single core thing is killing me here) :S
MrBigWaffles said:
SGSII no contest.
You want a phone that's going to last you the next few years. The Nexus S is nearing it's death (the single core thing is killing me here) :S
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add : Nexus S download speed max at 7.2 mbps (not 4G)
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Do we even have networks good enough to transfer near-adsl2+ speeds with a mobile coverage/audience? For the lifetime of either the sgs2 or nexus s i wouldn't see the max speed as much of a negative.
For anything bar high-end use the single core on the nexus is easily capable. No doubt the sgs2 is a beast though, and it's easy to tell the difference in almost any situation.
Nexus S
Depends on carrier. Although gs2 has superior hw, looks like development for for tmobile sgs2 is already starting to die out. Perhaps that will change as soon as ics drops but, unlike some, I really dig the constant activity found in nexus communities. After experience with gs1, I don't think will ever buy another non-nexus phone.
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Same here with the single core thing.
If I can buy the SII I'll go for it.
Though I'm still satisfied with my NS since I bought it last April.
MrBigWaffles said:
SGSII no contest.
You want a phone that's going to last you the next few years. The Nexus S is nearing it's death (the single core thing is killing me here) :S
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If I would have to choose today I would rather go to SGS2 then Nexus S which I bought year ago. It is faster, not so fragile (my phone has scratches on screen).
But I do not remember how well SGS2 is supported by custom builds - this is where Nexus S shines.

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So as it is obvious i am on the charge right now but have an opportunity to upgrade. My initial thought was to go for the nexus! i mean an aosp experience android 4.0 it makes sense. But then i found another phone i think rivals the nexus. The rezound has a great community following, and multiple 4.0 ports. Some major differences are 1.2 GHZ dual core vs. 1.5 Snap dragon. Screen size(technically speaking) and a few different things like screen resolution and such but i'm wondering what other people thought.
thecontrolm7cl said:
So as it is obvious i am on the charge right now but have an opportunity to upgrade. My initial thought was to go for the nexus! i mean an aosp experience android 4.0 it makes sense. But then i found another phone i think rivals the nexus. The rezound has a great community following, and multiple 4.0 ports. Some major differences are 1.2 GHZ dual core vs. 1.5 Snap dragon. Screen size(technically speaking) and a few different things like screen resolution and such but i'm wondering what other people thought.
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having a Nexus and having played with a Rezound I would go with the GN, it beats the Rezound in pretty much every category but the screen where both are pretty nice (GN a bit better though)... however they are both solid choices and if you like the size of the Rezound or the Beats or Sense then go with that, I'd try both of them out for a day or two if I was you and not get one based only off of recommendations
if you have any specific questions about the Nexus I'll answer
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I agree that they are both nice phones.
Part of it comes down to the display if you are display whore like me.
Most people probably wouldn't notice or care about pentile, but I personally feel that the pentile annoys me as much or even more than the fact that the Rezound has an LCD display.
I would check into enhancements by Supercurio so see what he has brought to the table for display mods/tweaks. Check into Voodoo Display Tuning.
In any case, don't get one without actually trying them out.
Personally, I'll wait for the GS3. If Verizon gets the GS3 AND doesn't screw it all up, I think it will be worth the wait.
Also, don't forget to look at the LG Spectrum.
If it were me i would go with a maxx. The phone is good enough for me and that battery would last so long. Of course i wouldn't really need a custom kernel on that (i only use one on the charge for ext4 and uv, which i wouldn't need on he razr.
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xdadevnube said:
I agree that they are both nice phones.
Part of it comes down to the display if you are display whore like me.
Most people probably wouldn't notice or care about pentile, but I personally feel that the pentile annoys me as much or even more than the fact that the Rezound has an LCD display.
I would check into enhancements by Supercurio so see what he has brought to the table for display mods/tweaks. Check into Voodoo Display Tuning.
In any case, don't get one without actually trying them out.
Personally, I'll wait for the GS3. If Verizon gets the GS3 AND doesn't screw it all up, I think it will be worth the wait.
Also, don't forget to look at the LG Spectrum.
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LOL LG
no in all seriousness though the Spectrum would be a good deal as a beginning 4G phone or for someone who's not into rooting/roms... the radios are solid, its very snappy, screen is nice and its a nice size the only complaint would be the UI... its very touchwizzy and bogs the phone down occasionally but otherwise its not a bad choice either (oh except for LG's OS upgrade timing as well, like Samsung in that regard but if that doesn't matter than disregard)
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i figure the nexus is probably what i would get a lot of opinions but i just dont know that i am ready to go with the 299 i know very well that which i got it would be rooted and rommed in a few days so whether or not it is sense is of no purpose. i've used both somewhat but its not the same when they aren't mine ya know? Honestly the biggest draw of the nexus is that it is AOSP and will continue to be ya know?
The Spectrum has a fantastic screen, but an awful custom UI, bad battery life, and a mediocre build. The Rezound isn't bad at all (biggest downside is that it's super chunky), and despite the sub-par screen the RAZR Maxx is actually quite nice, but if you're getting a phone now you'd ultimately being doing yourself a disservice getting anything other than the Nexus.
Sure, the phones may all seem at least somewhat competitive right now, but you need to think about the future, especially if you're on a 2-year upgrade cycle like most people. No phone, from any company, will get official updates as quickly -- and more importantly, for as long -- as a Nexus device.
Me, I'm waiting to see what gets announced at MWC at the end of this month, because the quad-core Tegra 3 devices we know are coming up will be way more future-proof than the current crop of dual-cores. The question is just when Verizon will get one.
IMO u should wait for the GS3. Thats what Im doing. I think that nexus, rezound, and maxx all have big downsides IMO that hopefully GS3 wont.
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cnoevl21 said:
IMO u should wait for the GS3. Thats what Im doing. I think that nexus, rezound, and maxx all have big downsides IMO that hopefully GS3 wont.
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I'm sure even the SGS3 will have one or a few downsides. No phone is perfect.
That being said, I don't necessarily see the point in waiting for it to come to Verizon considering the SGS2 didn't.
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People keep talking about quad core, I just wonder what are you going to do with quadcore. Dualcore is plenty of power for a phone. 99% of the apps not even support dual core and it will take awhile to get there, the only thing I see with quad core is you're going to pay extra cash for something just make you feel good, but no functional for anything!
buhohitr said:
People keep talking about quad core, I just wonder what are you going to do with quadcore. Dualcore is plenty of power for a phone. 99% of the apps not even support dual core and it will take awhile to get there, the only thing I see with quad core is you're going to pay extra cash for something just make you feel good, but no functional for anything!
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something to do with battery life, quad cores run more efficiently... idling on 2 cores for all but the most power hungry apps or something like that
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anoninja118 said:
something to do with battery life, quad cores run more efficiently... idling on 2 cores for all but the most power hungry apps or something like that
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This all speculation, my PC with more core, I need more cooling power! Law of physic more power, more heat. I think they are going to make more capacity(mah) for the same given battery size.
I vote for razr. By far the most polished software experience, stock for stock, and screen was good enough IMO to jump the Samsung ship.
bwheelies said:
I vote for razr. By far the most polished software experience, stock for stock, and screen was good enough IMO to jump the Samsung ship.
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OEM UI's on ICS?? OHGODWHY.jpeg
lol really though while I have to say that the razr is nice for those who don't want to root, battery situation, locked bootloader and the possibility of BLUR SANDWICH will steer most others away...
pic related, my face when samsungs touchjizz UI over ICS
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I went from the Charge to the Bionic, then to the Rezound. Two add-a-lines later and ~$650 in ETF's hanging over my head and I bought another Charge - I missed it too much. I was tempted by the Nexus, but the lack of removable storage kills it for me...I want the option of taking more than 30gb of stuff with me.
Don't put too much stock in the idea that a dual-core processor gives you better battery life, or noticeably more speed. Neither the Bionic or the Rezound were faster than the Charge to any real noteworthy degree, and battery life, while marginally better on the Bionic, was still poor overall. The pen-tile screen on the Bionic stunk, and while the Rezound's screen is very smooth from dead center, colors look pale and the viewing angles are terrible. Nothing beats the SAMOLED+ on the Charge. The "Beats Audio" on the Rezound is just a built-in preset EQ curve, easily reproduced on any other phone. Strictly in terms of sound quality with good headphones the Charge is in a different league - no hiss, no whines, cleaner, better, louder sound. Both the Bionic and the Rezound have the high pitched whine/interference, although not as bad on the Rezound.
Right now on Verizon there's no phone i'd rather have...when I took my new one out of the box it was like a huge feeling of relief. I won't be forsaking it again until something clearly, substantially better comes along.
buhohitr said:
This all speculation, my PC with more core, I need more cooling power! Law of physic more power, more heat. I think they are going to make more capacity(mah) for the same given battery size.
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You're assuming that all the cores in a mobile device are activated all the time, which is completely wrong. It's not speculation, it's been measured: Tegra 3 uses almost 60 percent less power than Tegra 2 in general because whenever it's in standby or other low-intensity modes it switches on a fifth low-power companion core and switches off the primary cores. Then, if you do need extra power, it dynamically kicks in the other cores as needed, whether that means activating a single core, two cores, or all four.
And as for the speed difference... even on the fastest dual-core devices, Android still lags every now and then. Try using the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and then the Transformer Prime -- there is a definite difference in speed and animation smoothness using the same OS. Everything is faster on a quad-core device.
Isn't ICS also optimized for multi-core devices? If so, the dual core on GN and quad on Transformer Prime should be much better than say Bionic for example.
I think the gnex is worth it, partly because it will be supported by samsung/google for 18 months. Seeing as most of us are locked into two year contracts, it also eliminates the need to buy a new phone in 6 months when the current new phones arent really supported
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Falcyn said:
You're assuming that all the cores in a mobile device are activated all the time, which is completely wrong. It's not speculation, it's been measured: Tegra 3 uses almost 60 percent less power than Tegra 2 in general because whenever it's in standby or other low-intensity modes it switches on a fifth low-power companion core and switches off the primary cores. Then, if you do need extra power, it dynamically kicks in the other cores as needed, whether that means activating a single core, two cores, or all four.
And as for the speed difference... even on the fastest dual-core devices, Android still lags every now and then. Try using the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and then the Transformer Prime -- there is a definite difference in speed and animation smoothness using the same OS. Everything is faster on a quad-core device.
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Take a look at this article. Basically they said that the power drain is from screen size, ram and LTE4G. Quadcore may only consume a little bit more battery power (but NOT saving power). They definitely need bigger battery just like I predicted. In theory, dual core should save power better than single core (same as your theory, one sleep, one working), but that's not the case. I found that when you use your phone, they all kick in for speed and smoothness whick translated into more power consumption.
http://www.tested.com/news/will-the-quad-core-arm-revolution-suck-your-smartphone-battery-dry/3131/

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