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Im using a nexus s right now. I love tthe screen on this phone and how snappy it is but I'm also on at&t. Meaning edge only. I could really care less about android 2.2 or 2.3 the thing I look for is screen quality and size. Next would be battery life. I came from an iPhone 4 and keep reverting back because of the battery life and network speed. Would you guys recommended an inspire over the nexus s? Is there anyone that has used the nexus s and iPhone 4 that can give me an unbiased opinion?
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Get it. this thing is snappy. Dont go by that crap about the processor being outdated. This thing flys. I have used my friends evo 4g, man this thing blows it away. I dont know if its the ram or the processor is tweaked up. having used a few android phones, I can say right out that this thing is snappy.
If you can live without a front facing camera I would say go for it.
I've used all the phones you mentioned and I actually own the inspire, iphone 4, and a captivate. The captivate is similar to the nexus s.
The screen size is great. It will be hard for me to move to anything less then 4.3in from now on. Clarity is also great and is on par with the iphone, but much better then the samsung AMOLED. Contrast is much better on the AMOLED, though. Blacks do not look..err.. as black like they do on an AMOLED screen, but color are definitely more accurate.
Battery life is decent considering the phone has a small battery. The iphone definitely takes the cake in this segment, but the inspire is much better then my captivate was.
Speeds are phenomenal. I'm seeing speeds close to 4000kbps and they are only going to increase as the months pass. The inspire definitely holds the edge over the other devices here.
In short, this phone rocks. It is definitely the best device you can purchase through at&t right now and with it being easy to root should be more popular then the motorola atrix. Get it! You won't be upset.
Battery life is NOT as good as an iphone4, dont get me wrong, it's close, but I do find myself having to throw it on the charger at work or charge on my 20 minute commute to get through a day. Thats actually my ONLY complaint about it. It's faster than an ip4, does more, feels better in the hand, build quality is just as good if not better, and due to the stupid design on the battery cover neither battery is removable. Just kidding, you can replace the battery on the inspire, but it is not the easiest thing in the world. Watched the ATT rep break 2 trying to sell me one.
I'd say go for the Inspire, however, I will tell you that an At&t band Nexus S just past through the FCC. There is no release date yet but you'll have that option soon.
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its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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I agree completely.. I'm probably going to pick the Inspire 4G up no matter what, but the Galaxy S II, specs-wise is intriguing. There are 2 glaring issues with the GSII though
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The OS won't even support dual core until at least April and youre looking at even longer for developers to take advantage. So real world improvements with the dual core are several months out AT LEAST, and even then its almost exclusively going to be games. Sending TXT, email, phone, browsing, heck even watching video, a Snapdragon/GPU combo is more than enough. So its like cruising your Corvette in a school zone for 6 months
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its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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I'm not talking about the Samsung Infuse. That's what your talking about. That is the Galaxy S 2. Engaged reported the other day about the Nexus S itself being passed through the FCC.
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Samsung is a joke in my opinion. They still have yet to release 2.2 for all their galaxy devices and keep coming out with the same galaxy devices, granted a couple extra inches added to the screen and newer versions(2.3) of touchwiz. Just my opinion again but wtf were they thinking releasing a vibrant on tmobile with a front facing camera and hspa???? Hello most vibrant owners have already made the mode themselves. Next post will be about their plastic=) Sorry but theyre a joke IMO right now
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I'm not talking about the Samsung Infuse. That's what your talking about. That is the Galaxy S 2. Engaged reported the other day about the Nexus S itself being passed through the FCC.
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the infuse is NOT the GalaxyS 2 the Infuse will have a 4.5" screen and have a single core 1.2 processor. the GalaxyS2 has a dual core 1 gig processor with a 4.3" display
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the infuse is NOT the GalaxyS 2 the Infuse will have a 4.5" screen and have a single core 1.2 processor. the GalaxyS2 has a dual core 1 gig processor with a 4.3" display
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That is true, however, the phone I am talking about is just a nexus s for at&t. No dual core processor etc. Here is the link http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-nexus-s-revisits-the-fcc-this-time-with-bands-for-atandt/
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If you use gps then HTC will murder Samsung in that respect. I feel like the Nexus S was a poor choice to be the next Nexus device. It's too similar to the Galaxy S devices that have been out for quite a while. I came from the iP4 and also have a Captivate. The Inspire is fast. Really fast. I haven't noticed any lag and that's one of my biggest things. Using the Captivate is torture and I have it rooted and running Cognition.
This or the Atrix are the only really solid choices on AT&T for the next few months. The Infuse will be typical Samsung. Screen will be pretty and it will be the last of the three phones mentioned to get Gingerbread or any other updates.
The Ip4 has the best battery life of any smartphone with a 1ghz cpu IMO. I have used every highend android phone that has come out, including recently the Desire Z, Nexus S, and now the Inspire. I will skip out on the ATT 3G version of the Nexus S because at $560 with tax, it just isn't worth it espeically with other "better" phones coming out that will be the same price in the up coming months. It a good chance that the SGS 2 will be about $500 to $600 espeically with the Atrix at $500
I like the Inspire because of it's screen size, and definitly the cost per performance of it, only $430 with tax outright from ATT. IMO I don't see paying $140ish more for a phone with similar performance, on the otherhand I think if the Inspire was $500, that would be too much for the hardware.
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The Ip4 has the best battery life of any smartphone with a 1ghz cpu IMO. I have used every highend android phone that has come out, including recently the Desire Z, Nexus S, and now the Inspire. I will skip out on the ATT 3G version of the Nexus S because at $560 with tax, it just isn't worth it espeically with other "better" phones coming out that will be the same price in the up coming months. It a good chance that the SGS 2 will be about $500 to $600 espeically with the Atrix at $500
I like the Inspire because of it's screen size, and definitly the cost per performance of it, only $430 with tax outright from ATT. IMO I don't see paying $140ish more for a phone with similar performance, on the otherhand I think if the Inspire was $500, that would be too much for the hardware.
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True but the iphone is not clocked at 1ghz. it is the same cpu as ipad but clocled slower from what I have read.
I know this thread is old but I thought this information might be helpful for people who are stuck buying older phones.
I have both the Nexus S i9020A and Inspire 4G at the moment and I have made the following observations.
The Inspire HSPA connection (3mbps) is far better than the Nexus S (1mbps).
SMS fail to go through on the Nexus frequently.
Both phones are running 4.2.2 ROMs. The Inspire is far more responsive probably due to it's memory advantage over the Nexus.
The Inspire screen is larger and easier to type on and read. The colors are also more subtle and easy on the eyes.
The Nexus S screen has deeper colors but the default color profile makes the whites look yellow. Also, the pentile matrix is obvious and hard to look at.
Battery life is much better on the Inspire with 2 days of standby with WIFI, GPS, and HSPA/3G. Nexus S can only go about 12 hours with the same configuration.
The Nexus S is lighter but feels a bit more fragile.
The Nexus S is picky about which USB cables it will work with.
The Inspire camera can take finer quality pictures than the Nexus S camera.
The Nexus S is stuck with 16GB of storage while the Inspire is expanded to 32GB.
FWIW I'm on Straight Talk AT&T SIM
I own both. neither are on a mobile network, NS used to be, call quality was great. However, I literally got the Infuse about 30 minutes ago so I'm doing what I can with it to see how it is. It's pissin me off I can't get system updates bc of no SIM. I think I'm gonna work on something to put my Bionic SIM in it. I'll let you know a fair comparison of the two. so far, both, look awesome, feel awesome, both are snappy. NS4G has TONS of support, I'm about to see what that's like here for the Infuse, thats what I was coming to do when I stumbled across this. I'll post updates.
UPDATE: Already, when playing various games, I notice that the touch response on the Inspire is not nearly as sensitive as the Nexus, that's one reason I love my Nexus, is the intense screen sensitivity and of course, the screen in general. the AMOLED is amazing.
Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
Lol, As much as people diss the captivate it's hard to find another android phone that can match it.
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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
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I returned the Inspire because of all of those reasons, but the Atrix had even more problems than that.
I had the atrix...it may be better on paper but I'll stick with the captivate
You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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I got my Atrix, and no way am I going back to my Captivate full time... I'll miss the Captivate's screen, but in the end, the Atrix is a superior phone. Just waiting for my unlock code now so I can actually use it on my carrier, but damn, its insanely fast! Still keeping my Captivate for backup purposes and to satisfy my flashing addiction.
One thing I wish manufacturers would include, dual sim slots... Then I wouldn't need 2 separate phones, one for home and one for work... Seems simple enough and wouldn't be very costly to add, considering all the cheap Chinese knockoff phones come with dual and even triple (dual GSM and a single CDMA) sim slots which all work simultaneously.
Other than that and the inferior screen compared to the Captivate, it's pretty hard to complain about the Atrix, I hope the devs get around the bootloader or Motorola finally caves in and decides to let us unlock it if we chose to (like the Xoom), but I won't complain if it doesn't happen... I can get rid of the stock launcher easily and replace it with Launcher Pro Plus, Zeam or ADW, which is really my only complaint about Blur. I'm happy it doesn't include Gingerbread yet, as it's still quite buggy and really doesn't offer much over Froyo anyways... Besides, that leaves at least 1 update that will arrive soonish where Motorola may throw in the bootloader unlock if people complain enough. ... Of course I won't be holding my breath, but it would be nice.
Overall, I'm happy with my purchase, I'll put it through more rigorous testing in the coming weeks after I get my unlock code, I'm sure it'll perform just fine though.
I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...
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I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...
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I'd be all over the Galaxy S 2 if it still had a 4" screen (and possibly a higher resolution), but the 4.3" screen is the deal breaker for me. Yes, I realize that the screen's quality is far superior to the Atrix's, but when all things are considered, the Atrix makes up for it in raw specs and awesome accessories...
The Captivate is already huge for a phone (in my opinion), I can't imagine using anything bigger than that. Thickness isn't a big concern for me (I don't see why people are so obsessed with how thin phones are, a mm or 2 really doesn't make a huge difference... But meh, to each his/her own), but the overall height and width is what really bothers me, at 125mm (~5"), it's huge compared to the Atrix's 117mm (~4.5") or even the Captivate's 121mm (~4.7")...
I'm more interested to see how well Samsung's dual core Exynos processor performs than the Tegra 2 on the Galaxy S 2, knowing how snappy the Hummingbird currently is and how long it kept the performance crown, I have no doubts that the Exynos will be able to hold its own against, and possibly even beat the Tegra 2.
And yes, I completely agree, until we see some optimizations in the OS and apps for dual core SOCs, there really won't be a huge difference between single and dual cores in terms of performance... Thankfully, Tegra 2 optimized apps and games are starting to pop up on the Market, so it's only a matter of time. Benchmarks really aren't a good way to measure performance between single and dual cores, they're not very accurate with single cores either (they vary greatly between different kernels, yet real world performance remains the same), so I take synthetic benchmark results with a grain of salt.
Either way, dual cores are still very much in their infancy, it can only get better from here, and if past phones are any indication, we're in for a hell of a year in terms of Android goodness.
Well I have played with an Evo, 4.3 inch screen, and I can handle it pretty nicely in my hands. I can't imagine much bigger though for a phone myself.
Phones and basically netbooks now. Not quite up to the power a laptop, but soon that will change. I do like the docks for the Atrix, but do not really want to pay $500 for it. I can get a good laptop for the price now. I want portable power in a small package.
I would say that the tegra will have a slight advantage only on the fact that there will be more software optimized to run on it most likely. Nvida is a big company imop that leads the pc gpu market.
Certainly going to be a GREAT YEAR for 'smartphones'...(almost think the name needs to change soon...
I have the captivate and nexus one right now, had the Atrix when it came out but took it back.
now I only use the Captivare to either play games or as a backup if the Nexus 1 dies on me.
Played with an atrix. Couldn't find a justification to buy it. Not very impressive. Liked the inspire more, but still not enough to give up the captivate
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Krad said:
You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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it blows so much you have to spend time in our forum instead of the streaks...oh wait there isn't much to see in the streak forum is there
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Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
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No wonder there are so many "refurbs" out there...
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i was going to get the Atrix because of the lapdock but i read its not very functional as for the trackpad and a bit too pricey. still happy with my cappy, good thing we have developers busy making our captivate better everyday, since at&t is too busy with the iphone
For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
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For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
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Mikey, that was almost complimentary. You must be in a good mood for a change.
there are so many of these threads and soo many people have things they like about the captivate over there other phone. i messed with the atrix and like the webtop view but wish it did more than run firefox and web apps. it would be great if the phone view could be opened in multiple windows having all the active apps open at the same time if you wish but i guess you cant get everything. also a full text editor would be cool. i know it has office apps but a more desktop worthy app would be awesome in the webtop. but hearing that the inspire and atrix have lesser call quality makes me shy away from the atrix. the call quality is one of the best things about the captivate. plus the atrix does look a bit cheap with the back cover though i am gealous of the fingerprint reader and hdmi port.
now i want to put ubuntu on my phone so i can out do the atrix in the "hey my phone is a computer" catagory. my graphics benchmarks are already better. now we just need to find someone who can write a driver to get hdmi out from the usb port... hmmm i need to get my brother to stop playing wow, quit his night job and dev for android..
My friend bought and HD7, and as I played with it, the same charm the captivate had when I first saw it was pretty much non-existant. The Captivate is anything but perfect, but it is also anything but terrible. Oh, and it looks really bad ass too
I'm looking for a phone with a really good camera, pretty fast all around(smooth), and get pretty decent battery life. I wouldn't mind getting a spare battery. But days I work I'm away from a charger for 14 hours, so I need it to last more than 10 hours. And days I work I'm not constantly on it, just my 4 10 minute breaks and 30 minute lunch. I've been reading on the Galaxy s3 and it seems to be the best phone coming out right now to verizon. The rezound is also really good and takes pretty good pics. I have a 6 month old son, and I always have my phone and not a camera, so its easier to take videos and pics of him with my phone. That's why I'd like a decent camera. What would ya'll recommend? thanks.
I do agree that the S3 is one of the best devices coming out. currently i am using the samsung infuse on att, and want to upgrade to the gs3 one i am able to. I personally would get the s3 given your two choices. the s3 will be a flagship device and will be supported longer. the s3 also has microSD card expansion so you can hold more videos and photos of your baby
have you considered the droid razr maxx? it has a 3300 mAh battery{non removable unfortunately}, so battey life will be excellent and it has an 8 mp camera. its also rated number 1 on consumer reports for verizon smartphones. im not on verizon but i stay up to date on the top phones. it all depends on which manufacturer you go with.
hope this helps.
Rezound Great Camera
I have the Rezound and I can tell you that it takes the best pictures of any phone i have seen. My brother has the Razr, and my friend the Nexus, and both are beyond impressed with the quality images i get with my phone. I am in the market for a phone for my wife, and the camera is the one thing that might keep me away from the GS3. I understand it has the same camera as the S2, and if that's the case then it will be another Rezound for my wife without hesitation. I don't have a single complaint about the Rezound. Batteries could always be better, but with the leaked ICS my battery life has near doubled. As long as you don't keep screen at full brightness and stream music all day, the battery in the Rezound will last you fine. It's damn near perfect.
samsung galaxy SIII unquestionably
Still Diggin the Rezound.
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samsung galaxy SIII unquestionably
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Obviously it isn't unquestionably, or there wouldn't be a forum. I would like to hear why you think it is such a great phone. What are it's real advantages here in the US.
I like the larger battery in the S3, but with all the issues regarding the Samsung radios (Galaxy Nexus) it makes me hesitate. Also Samsung has not been known for their cameras. Add to that the fact that they used an old-school pentile screen and have a big strange hardware button, it's just doesn't scream greatness.
I'm trying to want the S3, but i keep talking myself out of it. And if they drop the price on the Rezound back to $50 or even $100, why would you pay $200 more for what is basically the same specs?
+ 1 , Rageboardr ...
Your speech is perfect and I totally agree.
They yet haven't invented the "unquestionably" phone...
I think the htc ONE X has also a very good camera !
how about rezond?
a little bit qualifying againts sIII
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how about rezond?
a little bit qualifying againts sIII
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With the Rezound i know it is a great phone. It is tried and tested. It already has a 1.5 dual core processor. Its HD screen is amazing. It has the best pixel density of any phone that I am aware of currently in production. Stupid GS3 went with a pentile matrix, a step back from the nexus. It has terrific reception, it destroys the Razr and Nexus on road trips. I almost never lost a signal from SC to PA through the mountains. The camera on the Rezound is one of the best i have seen in a phone. Again it takes way better pics than the Razr or Nexus. I am also a big fan of HTC's Sense. They have the best widgets. I have no experience with touchwiz, but i know i don't like Blur. But any launcher can fix that. The Rezound has a nice quality build, and won't slip out of hand. Not slick plastic like the S3.
Lastly the Rezound fits comfortably in the hand. It could loose a little weight around the middle, but it can be easily operated with one hand. I prefer a little girth because I am rather harsh on a phone, and the thinness of the Razr worries me. My friend with the Nexus has a son who just sat on his Razr in his back pocket and crushed it. If i think of any other highlights i will add later.
I'd get the s3,the camera is awesome.
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I'd get the s3,the camera is awesome.
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I understand that it is the same camera that was on the S2. Just has newer software, which can be downloaded via ROM I imagine. The Rezound also has dual LED flash.
Also the GS3 front camera takes a step down from its predecessor. 1.2 vs 2.0
Have you read somewhere that the camera in the S3 is awesome, or are you just assuming.
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Obviously it isn't unquestionably, or there wouldn't be a forum. I would like to hear why you think it is such a great phone. What are it's real advantages here in the US.
I like the larger battery in the S3, but with all the issues regarding the Samsung radios (Galaxy Nexus) it makes me hesitate. Also Samsung has not been known for their cameras. Add to that the fact that they used an old-school pentile screen and have a big strange hardware button, it's just doesn't scream greatness.
I'm trying to want the S3, but i keep talking myself out of it. And if they drop the price on the Rezound back to $50 or even $100, why would you pay $200 more for what is basically the same specs?
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Same specs? no....
Snapdragon S4 Krait with Adreno 225 GPU >>>>>>>>>> S3 with Adreno 220 GPU which currently struggles to push a screen with that resolution consistantly smooth
I much rather have a Super Amoled HD than a SLD that Rezound has (poor contrast imo and viewing angles), if it was SLCD2 like One X id be a different story
sense 4 > touchwiz 5 > sense 3.6 (rezound)
GS3 will have 2GB RAM and will surely get Jellybean which i highly doubt Rezound will get anything beyond ICS.
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edit: BtW, SGS3 has a 1.9mp FFC, not 1.2
I did say basically the same specs, which means not exactly.
I have seen no problem from my S3 processor pushing my screen smoothly. Games like Shadowgun, and Dead Space play without any hiccups. Aside from a "smoother screen," what else does the better processor bring? Are they games or apps that will benifit?
I am sure the S4 is better than the S3, but both are pushing 1.5 ghz, so it sounds like a slight improvement. And with that improvement in processor, they skipped on the SAMOLED+ that was present on the Nexus. So a better processor with a weaker screen. It's a trade off to be sure.
I do wish the screen on the Rezound was brighter in the sun, but that seems like a problem for most phones. Even Samoled, though they say it is better. I still had a hard time with the Nexus in the sun.
The only real substantial advantage i see is the 2G Ram. I don't know what i need that much RAM for, but i'm sure i could find something to do with it.
I would like to see JellyBean on my phone, but I will likely root and ROM after the year warranty runs out, so i don't see that as being much of a deciding factor. It will release with ICS, which i already have.
I am only playing Devils Advocate, because like i said, I do want to want this phone. Thanks for all the input.
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I understand that it is the same camera that was on the S2. Just has newer software, which can be downloaded via ROM I imagine. The Rezound also has dual LED flash.
Also the GS3 front camera takes a step down from its predecessor. 1.2 vs 2.0
Have you read somewhere that the camera in the S3 is awesome, or are you just assuming.
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Check this out
http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/2181045/samsung-galaxy-s3-camera-hands-review
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That does sound like a fine camera. I am at least pretty sure that I will not be taking a step back from my current camera.
Now lets just hope that they figured out the issues with the radios on the Nexus, and this phone wont have a repeat of the same problems.
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That does sound like a fine camera. I am at least pretty sure that I will not be taking a step back from my current camera.
Now lets just hope that they figured out the issues with the radios on the Nexus, and this phone wont have a repeat of the same problems.
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I don't mind it,seems well built. The pentile screen is just people flaw hunting. 306 ppi HD I doubt you'll see any pixels.Do you walk around with a microscope?
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Undoubtedly s3 all the way..!!!!!
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I did say basically the same specs, which means not exactly.
I have seen no problem from my S3 processor pushing my screen smoothly. Games like Shadowgun, and Dead Space play without any hiccups. Aside from a "smoother screen," what else does the better processor bring? Are they games or apps that will benifit?
I am sure the S4 is better than the S3, but both are pushing 1.5 ghz, so it sounds like a slight improvement. And with that improvement in processor, they skipped on the SAMOLED+ that was present on the Nexus. So a better processor with a weaker screen. It's a trade off to be sure.
I do wish the screen on the Rezound was brighter in the sun, but that seems like a problem for most phones. Even Samoled, though they say it is better. I still had a hard time with the Nexus in the sun.
The only real substantial advantage i see is the 2G Ram. I don't know what i need that much RAM for, but i'm sure i could find something to do with it.
I would like to see JellyBean on my phone, but I will likely root and ROM after the year warranty runs out, so i don't see that as being much of a deciding factor. It will release with ICS, which i already have.
I am only playing Devils Advocate, because like i said, I do want to want this phone. Thanks for all the input.
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Looks to me that you already have your mind made up since what im seeing here is attempts to invalidate or brush off any advantage the SGS3 has over the rezound to convince yourself that the rezound is worth getting.
If you prefer the Rezound then by all means, enjoy it to the fullest
btw: galaxy nexus has samoled hd pentile, same as the sgs3 but .01 inch smaller.
I am not trying to convince myself to buy a Rezound, I am trying to convince myself to buy a Galaxy S3.
I know the Rezound is worth getting since i already have it, and it rocks. No one will be disappointed if they decide to get it. But it is a 6-7 month old phone.
I plan to use my wife's upgrade, and bequeath my Rezound to her, because she really needs a better camera on her phone. I don't want to use her upgrade to get another Rezound because, well, then i don't get a new phone. But i have to use her upgrade before Unlimited data expires, so unless miracles happen and Verizon decides against dumping the unlimited thing, then the GS3 is the only option.
I guess i just expected better arguments from a newer flagship phone. Something defining. Something I couldn't live without, and could say, look how ridiculously awesome this is. But I will buy it and try it, and exchange it if i don't like it.
I appreciate all the input.
Rageboardr said:
I am not trying to convince myself to buy a Rezound, I am trying to convince myself to buy a Galaxy S3.
I know the Rezound is worth getting since i already have it, and it rocks. No one will be disappointed if they decide to get it. But it is a 6-7 month old phone.
I plan to use my wife's upgrade, and bequeath my Rezound to her, because she really needs a better camera on her phone. I don't want to use her upgrade to get another Rezound because, well, then i don't get a new phone. But i have to use her upgrade before Unlimited data expires, so unless miracles happen and Verizon decides against dumping the unlimited thing, then the GS3 is the only option.
I guess i just expected better arguments from a newer flagship phone. Something defining. Something I couldn't live without, and could say, look how ridiculously awesome this is. But I will buy it and try it, and exchange it if i don't like it.
I appreciate all the input.
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Good luck,I honestly think you'll love it.
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So I have to either return/replace my HOX due to a camera problem anyway, but since the Galaxy S3 is coming out pretty soon, I'm thinking of just returning it and waiting a few weeks for the GS3. It seems the Galaxy S3 is faster on benchmarks, is there really any disadvantage to it? All benchmarks were from the international version, although the dual core in the AT&T version is claimed to be just as fast. Any opinions?
Both phones will be just as fast as each other, if you ask me. The only difference is the 2gb of RAM.
But let me say this again. 2gb of RAM is unecessary for a mobile platform like Android. Not bad, but unnecessary. The only reason why Samsung put the 2gb of RAM in it is to market it as a better feature, as it can't market the processor as the average public sees dual core as average right now. 2gb of RAM is appealing to the average consumer, but for us, we know it really won't do much in terms of processing power on Android.
This is how I see it:
You want a cheap and ugly device? Get the SGIII
You want a beutiful device? Get the HOX
I don't mean to sound biased, but I'm coming from the GSII and I loved it because it was fast. Not because of the quality, but because of the speed. The fact was that I was sick of Samsungs crappy build quality; it just doesn't feel right. Thats why I jumped ship to HTC and let me say that I am very impressed.
And now that we have bootloader unlock, theres none of that "HTC sucks a$$" because even though they do in terms of giving in to AT&T's demands, firstly theres no saying that they won't do the same for the GSIII and that we won't be seeing a lot of development.
In terms of the removable battery and SD card slot, niehter of those are a problem for me. SD Card = Only if you go crazy with storing stuff. Removable battery = You won't be able to run down the battery life on this thing easily.
In my opinion, the One X is the superior device. But really, it comes down to what you want.
And don't let that whole multitasking issue fool you for the HOX. It will be remidied soon with an AOSP build of ICS.
I am in the same boat as you. I installed Apex launcher today and that made it a little better, then rooted and installed the vanilla messaging app, but the 8 hour or less battery life I can't handle along with HTC Sense.
I purchased mine through Amazon though....and don't exactly know how the return process works, nor will they let me get a S3. I have until the 21st to figure out how to unroot this thing and trade it in.
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I am in the same boat as you. I installed Apex launcher today and that made it a little better, then rooted and installed the vanilla messaging app, but the 8 hour or less battery life I can't handle along with HTC Sense.
I purchased mine through Amazon though....and don't exactly know how the return process works, nor will they let me get a S3. I have until the 21st to figure out how to unroot this thing and trade it in.
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Unroot is easy....if you unlocked the bootloader there's nothing you can do about that. It will say either unlocked or relocked.
its using the same s4 chip, same phone, just more ram?
Not giving up on my One X, but more ram would be very beneficial for the One X. Sense is killing this phone. Although I'd like to have an AOKP or CM9 build....sense is nice.
And what happened with Google saying that they were gonna require all ICS phones to have the ability to run stock Holo. Did someone make that up or did Google go back on it?
One x.
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Saying this since no one else has. The android 4.0 OS uses ram like windows. For android its beneficial has it makes opening apps quicker. Hence why a lot of ram is being used. Technically the gsIII will show roughly 1.5 gigs for use for the system since 400 MB will be for the GPU another 100-300 for UI rest for apps.
So far 2gb ram is a good thing. But, not always is more good. More ram equals more power equals less battery life especially if its unused. Even the heaviest user won't use more than a gig of it.
Basically how you see free ram on the HOX will be the same on the GSIII. Also The GSIII needs that ram to run all the little animations for touchwiz. I wouldn't be surprised if a majority is allocates just for SVoice and TW.
IMHO, the GSIII is step backward from forward innovation of Android 4.0. Since it wasn't deisgned for 2gb ram. The S4 is but looking at its specs 5% more power is used to run the read write to that extra gig.
Look at the power specs. Do it by match. There's less battery time to power to usage ratio on the GSIII with the ram and the amoled then with the HOX
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So I have to either return/replace my HOX due to a camera problem anyway, but since the Galaxy S3 is coming out pretty soon, I'm thinking of just returning it and waiting a few weeks for the GS3. It seems the Galaxy S3 is faster on benchmarks, is there really any disadvantage to it? All benchmarks were from the international version, although the dual core in the AT&T version is claimed to be just as fast. Any opinions?
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If the international version had a screen as nice as our One X, I would get it in a heart beat. The Pentile is the major killer for the SGS3. Secondary to that is the design, the phone looks like something old and weak. The fact that the stateside versions got an S4 just like One X, the SGS3 just became worthless to me. The 2Gb of ram is not enough to make up for the flaws of the SGS3.
With the Exynos processor and true RGB display. I would be on the International SGS3 forums instead of One X.
From what I'm reading, the GS3 camera sensor is not updated (from GNEX or GS2?), and is "last generation" technology. Samsung just made some software tweaks to copycat some of the ImageSense features, such as being able to take photos will taking video.
The proof will be in a side-by-side comparison. But its looking like the One X camera will be better than the GS3, and the camera on my phone is important to me.
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From what I'm reading, the GS3 camera sensor is not updated (from GNEX or GS2?), and is "last generation" technology. Samsung just made some software tweaks to copycat some of the ImageSense features, such as being able to take photos will taking video.
The proof will be in a side-by-side comparison. But its looking like the One X camera will be better than the GS3, and the camera on my phone is important to me.
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I read that the SGS3 uses the exact same optics (sony) that the iPhone 4S has. either way, the cameras will be very close to comparability. Either way, 95% of the pictures that are taken by the average consumer will be of their puppy/baby and blasted over facebook.
I don't use the camera all that much. Also is there a huge difference between the pentile display on the GS3 and this one? Today is the last day I have to return the phone and I'm really tempted to go for the galaxy s3.
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I don't use the camera all that much. Also is there a huge difference between the pentile display on the GS3 and this one? Today is the last day I have to return the phone and I'm really tempted to go for the galaxy s3.
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The display on the HOX has been called the best display anyone has seen on any phone period. The Verge did a review of the SGS 3 and said that the display on the HOX is better.
IMHO the US version of the SGS 3 is the same as the AT&T HOX only with more internal RAM, an SD Card and slightly better camera.
I'm not returning my HOX.
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I don't use the camera all that much. Also is there a huge difference between the pentile display on the GS3 and this one? Today is the last day I have to return the phone and I'm really tempted to go for the galaxy s3.
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I'm attaching a picture I put together from images I found here. It's comparing the displays of the Galaxy S, S2, and S3 phones. Unfortunately they didn't compare it to the One X, but you can at least get an idea of how much the appearance of "pentileness" is reduced (by the higher resolution) between the original S and the S3.
(The backgrounds, icons, and focus aren't identical here, but I did the best I could to put them side-by-side at a size that would not get shrunk when I upload here. You can see the full images at the link I gave.)
My impression is that hands-down, the One X has the best display you can buy, but that I can probably live with pentile at the S3's resolution, and that extra RAM is looking mighty good.
i would definitely return the HOX if I still had that choice. The SG3 has better features and does not appear to be as crippled in terms of future software development.
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I read that the SGS3 uses the exact same optics (sony) that the iPhone 4S has. either way, the cameras will be very close to comparability. Either way, 95% of the pictures that are taken by the average consumer will be of their puppy/baby and blasted over facebook.
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Interesting, but partially true. I found an article on this below. Apparently the same sensor as the iPhone, but different optics. Sensor and optics are not the same thing. Sensor is the electronic portion, optics is the glass lens.
http://www.t3.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-has-same-camera-sensor-as-iphone-4s
Don't have time to look for it now, but a review I read of the GS3 described it as having a "last gen" sensor and same as previous Galaxy devices. Apparently this is not true, and the teardown definitely shows what the hardware is.
EDIT: Here's the article that called the sensor "last gen":
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s3-1078667/review/page:9#articleContent
Sorry, I just don't see it. The only things the SG3 has over the HOX is removable storage (not a big deal for me) and maybe the 2GB of ram. Other than that I think the HOX is superior in every other way.
Also for those of us who actually care about design and how your phone actually looks, there simply is no comparison there, the HOX was clearly designed and the SG3 seems very average in terms of looks and the wording of their colors like "pebble" blue, won't save them there.
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I'm attaching a picture I put together from images I found here. It's comparing the displays of the Galaxy S, S2, and S3 phones. Unfortunately they didn't compare it to the One X, but you can at least get an idea of how much the appearance of "pentileness" is reduced (by the higher resolution) between the original S and the S3.
(The backgrounds, icons, and focus aren't identical here, but I did the best I could to put them side-by-side at a size that would not get shrunk when I upload here. You can see the full images at the link I gave.)
My impression is that hands-down, the One X has the best display you can buy, but that I can probably live with pentile at the S3's resolution, and that extra RAM is looking mighty good.
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IMO the major difference between the screens is the resolution, though. I don't really see a lack of "pentileness". I think the thing is just that S1 and S2 looked horrible because of their low resolutions, regardless of pentile display. People see a Samsung phone with a higher resolution finally, and don't know what to do about it. Pentile is still there just as much as before.
As for the 2 GB of RAM, if you want to degrade your battery power for unnecessary RAM, go for it.
I'm not going to be dumb and say the SGS3 is a bad phone, but both phones are so close it's going to come down to personal preference for many. The way I see it, the benefits to the SGS3 are an SD card slot and removable battery, while the HOX sports a nicer display and is arguably "better looking" (obviously looks are subjective, but I've heard way more people rave about the looks of the HOX, and I've yet to hear anyone say they DON'T like the way it looks... have heard a lot of people say they don't like the look of the SGS3, and I agree that it is underwhelming at the very least, especially considering all the hype).
So, if you can live with using the cloud for storage, and don't have an issue with appx 15-16 hrs of battery life under normal usage with around 4 hrs of screen time on avg, then HOX is probably the better choice. If you need to be able to store backups of 4 ROMs on your phone and don't trust cloud networking or just don't have a good internet connection in most places, or expect to play games on your phone all day long and swap batteries without skipping a beat, or if you just plain feel that the SGS3 looks better, then SGS3 is clearly the better option for you.
I'm kind've leaning towards the SGS 3 and returning my One X (have 3 more days for the return window) based off of battery life alone. I can not get more than 2.5 hours of on screen time, and it usually averages around 2 hours max on screen time before it's dead. I've been on stock...1.83 stock...and 1.83 Clean Rom. Battery life hasn't changed between any of the roms. This is with screen brightness set to auto, but that is a requirement for me. I hear the SGS 3 really has some great battery life. If I could get 4 hours of on screen time on my One X it would be no competition but I'm only seeing HALF of that battery life...not very good.
Anyone have some recommendations? I've ran Battery stats and cpu spy and it's sleeping like normal. best performance wifi is off. The screen seems to be taking up the most power, but if I can't keep it on auto and get more than 2 hours of on screen time I'm not sure I'll be keeping the phone.
I am probably returning my HOX as well. The PHONE portion of the HOX is just poor compared to my last two phones (atrix,3gs) in regards signal, voice quality, and speakerphone. The clincher was when my wife noticed it.
That is probably the weakest thing about the phone. I also see this phone being a red headed step child with devs, due mostly to the availability issues. I'm new to HTC and i can say I don't care much for sense. It does not seem very well thought out. It just does not flow for me and comes off awkward.
I think HOX is a good device but the phone issues are inexcusable for me. Everything I've seen about touchwiz i like over Sense which just feels messy.
S3
+ better battery
+ better phone quality
+ easily replace battery when worn out
+ better dev support
- worse screen
- slightly less attractive case
ONEx
+ better screen
- poor phone quality
Greetings,
At the moment I have a nexus 4 and I'm quite happy about it, though some things could be better. I was wondering if the upgrade is worth it though? I can sell my nexus 4, and get a nexus 5 for 180€ extra. I know the big changes (screen, dimensions, camera, looks). But what about the little changes that matter to me. Is the speaker much better? How about microphone, call quality, wifi reception, loose hardware keys and pressability, scratch resistance of the back (do I need a bumper or not), slippery resistance of the back, touch responsiveness (nexus 4 wasn't very sensitive). Also softwareside (although nexus 4 will be getting it as well), I wondered if the google play store lost it dedicated soft key in the app drawer? And how do you place your widgets at the screen?
If some of these little irks can be solved, I'll be thankful!
Edit: I've ordered it anyway, but I would still like to have some feedback.
Pretty much the same quandary here. I ordered one but am having second thoughts. Had the Nexus 4 for almost a year and have been very happy with it. My only major complaint is that I get better cell reception on my old RAZR... especially when I am holding it.
I thought I'd try sprint via Ting to see if I get better service than T-Mobile, but now I am seeing remarks that Ting won't be able to activate it. Since it's still an lg, I am doubtful the radios will be any better, and as I am rarely in an LTE service area, no real benefit there. But if they are noticeably better that would be a big plus.
No real interest in more pixels as my eyes see the Nexus 4 screen as being just fine. I'm sure I'd appreciate the better camera, but have no real complaints about the Nexus 4 camera.
I rarely use the speaker as it is so unusable, but the HTC One is so far the only phone I've used that has usable speakers and am less than confident the Nexus 5 will be anywhere in that league.
This thread would probably be better served in the Nexus 4 forum.
That thread wouldn't be any helpful in the n4 forum. If you post here they'll say yeah because they got the n5 and if you're on the n4 they'll say stay. Either way you're going to get biased posts.
I'd say just go ahead and do it. It's a upgrade in every way. Think of it as a upgrade for your phone. I went for it because I'm a nexus fan boy and love the look of the nexus 5 so I went for it.
Plus. I'm not too much of a fan of the vibration on the nexus 4. It is severely weak for me
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720p vs 1080p ( 318 ppi vs 445 ppi)
1.5 Ghz Quad vs 2.3 Ghz Quad
A crappy camera vs a much better version camera (same 8mp)
2100 mAh vs 2300 mAh (same sh!t IMO)
And 4.4 KitKat with fastest update from Google (main point).
Go for it, just ~$400. Or you want some kind of $600 with 4.2 Android?
It's your money what do you think
I was torn as well and i can only tell you my reasoning. I also upgraded from a 16GB to 32GB. hated running out of room so damn fast with 16GB.
-Much better camera, in tests shots it destroys the N4
-Better battery life, in tests i've seen done and the official specs it's better than the N4 with LTE on. Now the battery is not much bigger but the better battery life is due to the processor and changes in android.
-dual speakers should bring a much louder device, and better sounding
For me, from what I've seen from people who have it, it fixes all of my hates on the N4, i wish it was smaller but so be it, at least it's not insanely larger than the N4.
it's up to each individual for what you want to do. If you go for off contract phones and you want to upgrade, this is your best bet right now unless your willing to spend the $700 on a GS4 or something similar, in my opinion.
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I was torn as well and i can only tell you my reasoning. I also upgraded from a 16GB to 32GB. hated running out of room so damn fast with 16GB.
-Much better camera, in tests shots it destroys the N4
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No need for more storage, but I did order the 32
Can you link to those test shots? Everything I've seen thus far hasn't impressed me.
Solutions Etcetera said:
No need for more storage, but I did order the 32
Can you link to those test shots? Everything I've seen thus far hasn't impressed me.
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yeah for me it's mostly just OCD of seeing less than 2GB. Plus unless it can get USBOTG i'll need that space if i ever want to put some movies or shows on it. Admittedly i don't do it often, but it's nice to know you can.
Anyway, here are the test shots i saw and i was very happy. Is it a DSLR? no, but IMO it's a lot better than the N4 and on par with most of the others, if not slightly better in some tests.
http://recombu.com/mobile/news/google-nexus-5-camera-comparison_M19696.html
Its worth upgrading if you can afford it. KitKat is running so well on my N4 so I decided to stick with it a little longer.
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Its worth upgrading if you can afford it. KitKat is running so well on my N4 so I decided to stick with it a little longer.
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I think in general it would run quite well for most devices as they optimized it more to work for devices with less ram. But yeah for the most part, nexus 4 is pretty smooth running kit Kat. The only upgrade would be the device itself in terms of screen size and some other nice small additions.
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Someone else's 'worth it' probably isn't the same as your 'worth it'.
Seeing average prices on swappa for n4's are about $250, the n5 will be quite affordable after selling the n4.
Snapdragon 800 come to papa.
Kit Kat Nexus⁴ p)
I am jumping the gun lol
Seems Ting hasn't worked out the Nexus 5 yet, so I canceled my order.
I'll continue to use the Nexus 4 on t-mobile until that happens.
Yes, you should definitely upgrade if you have money to spare. I sold my nexus 4 last weekend and got the nexus 5 today. totally worth it!
I just upgraded my Nexus 4 to a Nexus 5 and, while I was cautious at first, I think I made the right choice.
The N5 feels much brisker, the screen's much brighter and higher quality and the camera is...an improvement, albeit a small one. The biggest issue for me was getting the Snapdragon 800, which should be reasonably future proof.