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Nexus s or inspire??

Im using a nexus s right now. I love tthe screen on this phone and how snappy it is but I'm also on at&t. Meaning edge only. I could really care less about android 2.2 or 2.3 the thing I look for is screen quality and size. Next would be battery life. I came from an iPhone 4 and keep reverting back because of the battery life and network speed. Would you guys recommended an inspire over the nexus s? Is there anyone that has used the nexus s and iPhone 4 that can give me an unbiased opinion?
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Get it. this thing is snappy. Dont go by that crap about the processor being outdated. This thing flys. I have used my friends evo 4g, man this thing blows it away. I dont know if its the ram or the processor is tweaked up. having used a few android phones, I can say right out that this thing is snappy.
If you can live without a front facing camera I would say go for it.

I've used all the phones you mentioned and I actually own the inspire, iphone 4, and a captivate. The captivate is similar to the nexus s.
The screen size is great. It will be hard for me to move to anything less then 4.3in from now on. Clarity is also great and is on par with the iphone, but much better then the samsung AMOLED. Contrast is much better on the AMOLED, though. Blacks do not look..err.. as black like they do on an AMOLED screen, but color are definitely more accurate.
Battery life is decent considering the phone has a small battery. The iphone definitely takes the cake in this segment, but the inspire is much better then my captivate was.
Speeds are phenomenal. I'm seeing speeds close to 4000kbps and they are only going to increase as the months pass. The inspire definitely holds the edge over the other devices here.
In short, this phone rocks. It is definitely the best device you can purchase through at&t right now and with it being easy to root should be more popular then the motorola atrix. Get it! You won't be upset.

Battery life is NOT as good as an iphone4, dont get me wrong, it's close, but I do find myself having to throw it on the charger at work or charge on my 20 minute commute to get through a day. Thats actually my ONLY complaint about it. It's faster than an ip4, does more, feels better in the hand, build quality is just as good if not better, and due to the stupid design on the battery cover neither battery is removable. Just kidding, you can replace the battery on the inspire, but it is not the easiest thing in the world. Watched the ATT rep break 2 trying to sell me one.

I'd say go for the Inspire, however, I will tell you that an At&t band Nexus S just past through the FCC. There is no release date yet but you'll have that option soon.
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its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.

bkeaver said:
its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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I agree completely.. I'm probably going to pick the Inspire 4G up no matter what, but the Galaxy S II, specs-wise is intriguing. There are 2 glaring issues with the GSII though
Made by Samsung
The OS won't even support dual core until at least April and youre looking at even longer for developers to take advantage. So real world improvements with the dual core are several months out AT LEAST, and even then its almost exclusively going to be games. Sending TXT, email, phone, browsing, heck even watching video, a Snapdragon/GPU combo is more than enough. So its like cruising your Corvette in a school zone for 6 months

bkeaver said:
its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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I'm not talking about the Samsung Infuse. That's what your talking about. That is the Galaxy S 2. Engaged reported the other day about the Nexus S itself being passed through the FCC.
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Samsung is a joke in my opinion. They still have yet to release 2.2 for all their galaxy devices and keep coming out with the same galaxy devices, granted a couple extra inches added to the screen and newer versions(2.3) of touchwiz. Just my opinion again but wtf were they thinking releasing a vibrant on tmobile with a front facing camera and hspa???? Hello most vibrant owners have already made the mode themselves. Next post will be about their plastic=) Sorry but theyre a joke IMO right now

mikejames07 said:
I'm not talking about the Samsung Infuse. That's what your talking about. That is the Galaxy S 2. Engaged reported the other day about the Nexus S itself being passed through the FCC.
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the infuse is NOT the GalaxyS 2 the Infuse will have a 4.5" screen and have a single core 1.2 processor. the GalaxyS2 has a dual core 1 gig processor with a 4.3" display

bkeaver said:
the infuse is NOT the GalaxyS 2 the Infuse will have a 4.5" screen and have a single core 1.2 processor. the GalaxyS2 has a dual core 1 gig processor with a 4.3" display
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That is true, however, the phone I am talking about is just a nexus s for at&t. No dual core processor etc. Here is the link http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-nexus-s-revisits-the-fcc-this-time-with-bands-for-atandt/
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If you use gps then HTC will murder Samsung in that respect. I feel like the Nexus S was a poor choice to be the next Nexus device. It's too similar to the Galaxy S devices that have been out for quite a while. I came from the iP4 and also have a Captivate. The Inspire is fast. Really fast. I haven't noticed any lag and that's one of my biggest things. Using the Captivate is torture and I have it rooted and running Cognition.
This or the Atrix are the only really solid choices on AT&T for the next few months. The Infuse will be typical Samsung. Screen will be pretty and it will be the last of the three phones mentioned to get Gingerbread or any other updates.

The Ip4 has the best battery life of any smartphone with a 1ghz cpu IMO. I have used every highend android phone that has come out, including recently the Desire Z, Nexus S, and now the Inspire. I will skip out on the ATT 3G version of the Nexus S because at $560 with tax, it just isn't worth it espeically with other "better" phones coming out that will be the same price in the up coming months. It a good chance that the SGS 2 will be about $500 to $600 espeically with the Atrix at $500
I like the Inspire because of it's screen size, and definitly the cost per performance of it, only $430 with tax outright from ATT. IMO I don't see paying $140ish more for a phone with similar performance, on the otherhand I think if the Inspire was $500, that would be too much for the hardware.

sabwafare2001 said:
The Ip4 has the best battery life of any smartphone with a 1ghz cpu IMO. I have used every highend android phone that has come out, including recently the Desire Z, Nexus S, and now the Inspire. I will skip out on the ATT 3G version of the Nexus S because at $560 with tax, it just isn't worth it espeically with other "better" phones coming out that will be the same price in the up coming months. It a good chance that the SGS 2 will be about $500 to $600 espeically with the Atrix at $500
I like the Inspire because of it's screen size, and definitly the cost per performance of it, only $430 with tax outright from ATT. IMO I don't see paying $140ish more for a phone with similar performance, on the otherhand I think if the Inspire was $500, that would be too much for the hardware.
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True but the iphone is not clocked at 1ghz. it is the same cpu as ipad but clocled slower from what I have read.

I know this thread is old but I thought this information might be helpful for people who are stuck buying older phones.
I have both the Nexus S i9020A and Inspire 4G at the moment and I have made the following observations.
The Inspire HSPA connection (3mbps) is far better than the Nexus S (1mbps).
SMS fail to go through on the Nexus frequently.
Both phones are running 4.2.2 ROMs. The Inspire is far more responsive probably due to it's memory advantage over the Nexus.
The Inspire screen is larger and easier to type on and read. The colors are also more subtle and easy on the eyes.
The Nexus S screen has deeper colors but the default color profile makes the whites look yellow. Also, the pentile matrix is obvious and hard to look at.
Battery life is much better on the Inspire with 2 days of standby with WIFI, GPS, and HSPA/3G. Nexus S can only go about 12 hours with the same configuration.
The Nexus S is lighter but feels a bit more fragile.
The Nexus S is picky about which USB cables it will work with.
The Inspire camera can take finer quality pictures than the Nexus S camera.
The Nexus S is stuck with 16GB of storage while the Inspire is expanded to 32GB.
FWIW I'm on Straight Talk AT&T SIM

I own both. neither are on a mobile network, NS used to be, call quality was great. However, I literally got the Infuse about 30 minutes ago so I'm doing what I can with it to see how it is. It's pissin me off I can't get system updates bc of no SIM. I think I'm gonna work on something to put my Bionic SIM in it. I'll let you know a fair comparison of the two. so far, both, look awesome, feel awesome, both are snappy. NS4G has TONS of support, I'm about to see what that's like here for the Infuse, thats what I was coming to do when I stumbled across this. I'll post updates.
UPDATE: Already, when playing various games, I notice that the touch response on the Inspire is not nearly as sensitive as the Nexus, that's one reason I love my Nexus, is the intense screen sensitivity and of course, the screen in general. the AMOLED is amazing.

Captivate to Inspire to Atrix to Inspire... and Im back on the Captivate!

Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.

Lol, As much as people diss the captivate it's hard to find another android phone that can match it.

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Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?

mechanical tool said:
Do all your reason apply to both the Atrix and the Inspire?
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I returned the Inspire because of all of those reasons, but the Atrix had even more problems than that.

I had the atrix...it may be better on paper but I'll stick with the captivate

You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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I got my Atrix, and no way am I going back to my Captivate full time... I'll miss the Captivate's screen, but in the end, the Atrix is a superior phone. Just waiting for my unlock code now so I can actually use it on my carrier, but damn, its insanely fast! Still keeping my Captivate for backup purposes and to satisfy my flashing addiction.
One thing I wish manufacturers would include, dual sim slots... Then I wouldn't need 2 separate phones, one for home and one for work... Seems simple enough and wouldn't be very costly to add, considering all the cheap Chinese knockoff phones come with dual and even triple (dual GSM and a single CDMA) sim slots which all work simultaneously.
Other than that and the inferior screen compared to the Captivate, it's pretty hard to complain about the Atrix, I hope the devs get around the bootloader or Motorola finally caves in and decides to let us unlock it if we chose to (like the Xoom), but I won't complain if it doesn't happen... I can get rid of the stock launcher easily and replace it with Launcher Pro Plus, Zeam or ADW, which is really my only complaint about Blur. I'm happy it doesn't include Gingerbread yet, as it's still quite buggy and really doesn't offer much over Froyo anyways... Besides, that leaves at least 1 update that will arrive soonish where Motorola may throw in the bootloader unlock if people complain enough. ... Of course I won't be holding my breath, but it would be nice.
Overall, I'm happy with my purchase, I'll put it through more rigorous testing in the coming weeks after I get my unlock code, I'm sure it'll perform just fine though.

I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...

gandalf21502 said:
I went into the store to play with the Atrix...To be honext it is an nice speedy phone. BUT with a custom rom (paragon 6.0) I did not really notice that much speed difference. I enjoy the captivate's screen MUCH more than the Atrix. Benchmarks I have seen, in some cases the Galaxy S comes out over the Atrix. I am sure when dual core is optimized via the o/s that will change, but for now...I am sticking with the captivate. I know many are down on Samsung, but i must say a Galaxy S 2 with the tegra 2 looks very tasty to me...
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I'd be all over the Galaxy S 2 if it still had a 4" screen (and possibly a higher resolution), but the 4.3" screen is the deal breaker for me. Yes, I realize that the screen's quality is far superior to the Atrix's, but when all things are considered, the Atrix makes up for it in raw specs and awesome accessories...
The Captivate is already huge for a phone (in my opinion), I can't imagine using anything bigger than that. Thickness isn't a big concern for me (I don't see why people are so obsessed with how thin phones are, a mm or 2 really doesn't make a huge difference... But meh, to each his/her own), but the overall height and width is what really bothers me, at 125mm (~5"), it's huge compared to the Atrix's 117mm (~4.5") or even the Captivate's 121mm (~4.7")...
I'm more interested to see how well Samsung's dual core Exynos processor performs than the Tegra 2 on the Galaxy S 2, knowing how snappy the Hummingbird currently is and how long it kept the performance crown, I have no doubts that the Exynos will be able to hold its own against, and possibly even beat the Tegra 2.
And yes, I completely agree, until we see some optimizations in the OS and apps for dual core SOCs, there really won't be a huge difference between single and dual cores in terms of performance... Thankfully, Tegra 2 optimized apps and games are starting to pop up on the Market, so it's only a matter of time. Benchmarks really aren't a good way to measure performance between single and dual cores, they're not very accurate with single cores either (they vary greatly between different kernels, yet real world performance remains the same), so I take synthetic benchmark results with a grain of salt.
Either way, dual cores are still very much in their infancy, it can only get better from here, and if past phones are any indication, we're in for a hell of a year in terms of Android goodness.

Well I have played with an Evo, 4.3 inch screen, and I can handle it pretty nicely in my hands. I can't imagine much bigger though for a phone myself.
Phones and basically netbooks now. Not quite up to the power a laptop, but soon that will change. I do like the docks for the Atrix, but do not really want to pay $500 for it. I can get a good laptop for the price now. I want portable power in a small package.
I would say that the tegra will have a slight advantage only on the fact that there will be more software optimized to run on it most likely. Nvida is a big company imop that leads the pc gpu market.
Certainly going to be a GREAT YEAR for 'smartphones'...(almost think the name needs to change soon...

I have the captivate and nexus one right now, had the Atrix when it came out but took it back.
now I only use the Captivare to either play games or as a backup if the Nexus 1 dies on me.

Played with an atrix. Couldn't find a justification to buy it. Not very impressive. Liked the inspire more, but still not enough to give up the captivate
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Krad said:
You guys are all smoking bad crack. The captivate blows. Down with samsung
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it blows so much you have to spend time in our forum instead of the streaks...oh wait there isn't much to see in the streak forum is there

ekerbuddyeker said:
Well, after 3 weeks of trying the Inspire and Atrix, at the end of the day I am back on the Captivate! I think the AT&T store are sick of me becuase I got the Inspire then returned it for the Atrix, then returned the Atrix for the Inspire. Why? Sound quality, video quality, size, screen quality, buttons and ease of use.
So thats my 2c.
It is interesting to see how many people also own, or have all, all three devices.
Note that my Captivate has a custom ROM.
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No wonder there are so many "refurbs" out there...
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i was going to get the Atrix because of the lapdock but i read its not very functional as for the trackpad and a bit too pricey. still happy with my cappy, good thing we have developers busy making our captivate better everyday, since at&t is too busy with the iphone

For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.

MikeyMike01 said:
For the first 4 months, I hated it. For the next 2, I thought it was alright. Since then it grew on me.
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Mikey, that was almost complimentary. You must be in a good mood for a change.

there are so many of these threads and soo many people have things they like about the captivate over there other phone. i messed with the atrix and like the webtop view but wish it did more than run firefox and web apps. it would be great if the phone view could be opened in multiple windows having all the active apps open at the same time if you wish but i guess you cant get everything. also a full text editor would be cool. i know it has office apps but a more desktop worthy app would be awesome in the webtop. but hearing that the inspire and atrix have lesser call quality makes me shy away from the atrix. the call quality is one of the best things about the captivate. plus the atrix does look a bit cheap with the back cover though i am gealous of the fingerprint reader and hdmi port.
now i want to put ubuntu on my phone so i can out do the atrix in the "hey my phone is a computer" catagory. my graphics benchmarks are already better. now we just need to find someone who can write a driver to get hdmi out from the usb port... hmmm i need to get my brother to stop playing wow, quit his night job and dev for android..

My friend bought and HD7, and as I played with it, the same charm the captivate had when I first saw it was pretty much non-existant. The Captivate is anything but perfect, but it is also anything but terrible. Oh, and it looks really bad ass too

Infuse or Sg2 or HTC Titan

I have the motorola Atrix and enjoy the phone but before that I had the 5" dell streak. I have enjoyed my atrix as it has some nice custom ROMs. However it is upgrade time and the tech in me wants to upgrade / change. The infuse is free and has a 2.5 inch screen and a super camera which is important to me. However a single core processor? Really. But then it has great sdcard storage. Battery life is supposed to be great and I would use custom Rom if it made a difference
HTC Titan. Again single core 1.5 processor 512mb RAM. But supposedly mango doesn't need the processing power that android does. Plus it's 199.00. Ouch. However a big 4.7 inch screen and a 8 mp camera. 16gb non expandable RAM.
SG2. Sweet. But 4.3 inch screen. 199.00. Dual core 1.5 processor. Very nice phone.
I guess I'm looking for input. I like my atrix but want good camera and bigger screen but like to play games. However a solid battery would be nice. I want it all. Lol
Happy New Year.

there are two galaxy s 2 models for att. the attain model with a 4.3" screen and a dual core 1.2ghz. and the skyrocket with a 4.5" screen, dual core 1.5ghz, and lte. keep in mind the samsung phones have very pretty samoled screens. and all the phones you listed are wvga and the atrix had a qhd display (though higher resolution it did have a yucky pentile display).
ive been eyeing that lg nitro with its 720p display and lte. and though it wins out on specs i just dont like lg for some reason. so maybe ill wait for something like the lg but better.

Thanks. I knew about the skyrockets but they are 250.00. Paying that with a two year contract seems foolish too me anyway. After more reading and YouTube videos I think I am at the SGS2 or waiting a month and seeing what prices do. It's funny this summer I was pining away for the infuse but had no upgrade.

1 android only boots on one core
2 if your a big on your phone gamer than the dual core is handy
3 I have an sgs2...my infuse is faster and has a better ui ....if u stay on the web or game all the time then u can take advantage of the second core....
Until they develop apps that take advantage of the dual core I personally don't see the point at this time.
Like I said I have an sgs2 and my infuse is my daily driver due to is just a better all around phone
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1 android only boots on one core
2 if your a big on your phone gamer than the dual core is handy
3 I have an sgs2...my infuse is faster and has a better ui ....if u stay on the web or game all the time then u can take advantage of the second core....
Until they develop apps that take advantage of the dual core I personally don't see the point at this time.
Like I said I have an sgs2 and my infuse is my daily driver due to is just a better all around phone
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Wow, very interesting. I've read and read many forums and YouTube videos. I am assuming that is where ICS may come in, taking fuller advantage of the hardware.
Here's what I do with my phone.
I'm a teacher. Other than websites and taking pictures and posting them to fb then I watch videos and texting music then light gaming. I have the Asus transformer prime for my gaming and more intense things. But I'd say my biggest goals are
Battery life
Good camera and video
Bigger nice display
Storage
Facebook integration ( which most everything has)

I'm a long time Infuse owner (since june 2011) and I feel that the Infuse has everything you could really want in a phone right now. Granted development for it has had a slump in activity. But if your not into flashing roms all the time then all your good. The screen is just absolutely gorgeous and unmatchable as far as colors go. The blacks are actually pitch black! But aside from that its just great all around. For the things you pointed out, the sgs2 would seem like too much phone for the job. And you just can't beat the cost savings for what your getting with the infuse. I paid 170 for mine and it was all worth it. If you keep it stock you could also use it as an entertainment PC for your living room through HDMI too. Which is awesome.
Just to recap, the phone is fast enough to do everything you need. It also has a camera good enough to replace my point and shoot canon. And the screen size hits that sweet spot of not being too big while still having a really decent resolution and color reproduction. For me its a no-brainer. But if ics is looking interesting to you I would walk into a Verizon store and ask to play with a new nexus. And see if the difference is worth the price. If it is. Then I would keep what you got and just wait for the Galaxy Note to come stateside. 5" 720p samoled screen is all I have to say.
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dman3285 said:
1 android only boots on one core
2 if your a big on your phone gamer than the dual core is handy
3 I have an sgs2...my infuse is faster and has a better ui ....if u stay on the web or game all the time then u can take advantage of the second core....
Until they develop apps that take advantage of the dual core I personally don't see the point at this time.
Like I said I have an sgs2 and my infuse is my daily driver due to is just a better all around phone
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Agree totally. And the infuse is 4.5" screen and single core is enough on this phone.
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sdelliott31 said:
Wow, very interesting. I've read and read many forums and YouTube videos. I am assuming that is where ICS may come in, taking fuller advantage of the hardware.
Here's what I do with my phone.
I'm a teacher. Other than websites and taking pictures and posting them to fb then I watch videos and texting music then light gaming. I have the Asus transformer prime for my gaming and more intense things. But I'd say my biggest goals are
Battery life
Good camera and video
Bigger nice display
Storage
Facebook integration ( which most everything has)
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I think you Need an infuse then. Dman has some good roms for it. Just switched to catyrom and the phone runs great and for free what more can you want until the note comes state side like I'm waiting for. Being a previous streak owner.
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Ahhhh the Galaxy Note. Pure ecstasy. That's in the end the phone I'm willing to pay some money for.
Thanks everyone for being cool. I've been reading in the dev section too. I'll keep you posted but I like people sticking up for their phones so I'm going to keep researching the Infuse!

the gs2 has a exynos processor it may only be 1.2ghz but it absolutely rocks. the skyrocket has a qualcomm chip. not too shabby. the attic has a tegra chip. meh. actually the infuse can play better videos than the atrix and thought the benchmarks may look close in 3d I think the renderings are better on the hummingbird which may be why Motorola switched to the omap4 with the power vr540 gpu from imagination technologies which is the same gpu the hummingbird runs. but I think the exynos and dualcore snapdragon are both better.
I'm pretty interested in meego powered phones myself but haven't had a chance to use one. maybe some day...
if it were me I'd either get the free phone or a gs2 the skyrocket if you get lte service, I don't know enough about the HTC to comment on it. the infuse is at a disadvantage though because it is always late on updates and will probably never see ics officially.

Both sgs2 models are more expensive online. The skyrocket in store is 149.99 with contract. I believe the other one is 99.99 with. Though the Infuse is just as good and if you don't live in an LTE area, like most of us then its not worth it. Except of course that the sgs2 (both models) is getting ICS officially. The infuse has the advantage of a metal case and i've dropped mine many times where i thought surely it broke yet its fine. I personally don't like HTC for some reason, not really sure why.
Though honestly I would wait a little. The sgs3 is gonna be released relatively soon, along with some other very nice phones. The galaxy note is gonna be released here soon too. So since you already have a decent phone and are so close to a new line of phones, i'd wait the 2 or 3 months.

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Both sgs2 models are more expensive online. The skyrocket in store is 149.99 with contract. I believe the other one is 99.99 with. Though the Infuse is just as good and if you don't live in an LTE area, like most of us then its not worth it. Except of course that the sgs2 (both models) is getting ICS officially. The infuse has the advantage of a metal case and i've dropped mine many times where i thought surely it broke yet its fine. I personally don't like HTC for some reason, not really sure why.
Though honestly I would wait a little. The sgs3 is gonna be released relatively soon, along with some other very nice phones. The galaxy note is gonna be released here soon too. So since you already have a decent phone and are so close to a new line of phones, i'd wait the 2 or 3 months.
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The Infuse isn't metal - it's metallic-finish plastic. Same for the SGS2.
However, people falsely always assume that plastic = cheap - it's not, if properly done, and Samsung has chosen their plastic types VERY well in the Infuse and GS2. As an example of plastics that do better than metal:
Airbus A380
Boeing 787
F-22 Raptor
(Admittedly, most of the above are fiber reinforced composites - but still, it's a variant of plastic)
Anything made using Delrin
Don't get the Skyrocket - it has everything wrong with it that drives developers away from the Infuse and more. People falsely assume that developers go for specs, but we don't - we go for phones that don't fight us. That's why the Captivate still has a robust development community and the Infuse's never really took off, with only a small handful of developers, many of whom got frustrated and said "**** it" and left. That's why the I777 will always have a more robust developer community than the Skyrocket - We only need half the developers to achieve twice the work because the I777 community can leverage the I9100 community, while the Skyrocket community has nothing to leverage. (Well, the T989 community, but that's not exactly very useful.)

I'd get the Skyrocket ($149.99) if it plays my TV shows in MKV format without having to re-encode. Otherwise I'd get the SGS2 ($199.99).
From the benchmarks I've seen it appears the SGS2 is a tad bit faster but if you're going to be tied to a two year contract and AT&T is SLOWLY rolling out LTE it seems like a no brainer to get the LTE capable phone.
Forgot to mention the Skyrocket has a larger screen and battery.

Entropy512 said:
The Infuse isn't metal - it's metallic-finish plastic. Same for the SGS2.
However, people falsely always assume that plastic = cheap - it's not, if properly done, and Samsung has chosen their plastic types VERY well in the Infuse and GS2. As an example of plastics that do better than metal:
Airbus A380
Boeing 787
F-22 Raptor
(Admittedly, most of the above are fiber reinforced composites - but still, it's a variant of plastic)
Anything made using Delrin
Don't get the Skyrocket - it has everything wrong with it that drives developers away from the Infuse and more. People falsely assume that developers go for specs, but we don't - we go for phones that don't fight us. That's why the Captivate still has a robust development community and the Infuse's never really took off, with only a small handful of developers, many of whom got frustrated and said "**** it" and left. That's why the I777 will always have a more robust developer community than the Skyrocket - We only need half the developers to achieve twice the work because the I777 community can leverage the I9100 community, while the Skyrocket community has nothing to leverage. (Well, the T989 community, but that's not exactly very useful.)
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actually all the modern Samsung phones may have a plastic outer shell but the screen is bonded to a metal frame that the main board is mounted to. on the infuse it looks quite robust. it may be confused with plastic having a very dull grey look and a black coating where the battery sits but I've scratched it doing a screen replacement and I assure you there is a good chunk of metal in the infuses construction. it is very light weight though which is why it never occurred to people that there is metal in there. maybe it's a porous aluminum casting, maybe its magnesium which is about half the weight of aluminum. I didn't think to spark test it before I put it together. but I agree Samsung plastics for the outer shell are also top notch. not scratch or dent resistant but very fracture resistant. even the slip cover on the i9000, vibrant and fascinate though it has a cheap appearance is extremely scratch resistant and resilient. Samsung=cheap looks but rugged construction.

I'd avoid the HTC Titan (price, battery life) and Skyrocket (price, CPU, screen tuning issues). Unless you are invested in having a top-notch DAC for listening to music on your phone and have browsed the Infuse forums enough to know what to expect in terms of issues and ROM's, I'd recommend sticking with the regular SGS2.

Thanks again all. I'm going to try and hold out for the Note or the SGS2 if the price drops. But it does seem that Samsung is on to something on the phone front, plus tablets.

sdelliott31 said:
I have the motorola Atrix and enjoy the phone but before that I had the 5" dell streak. I have enjoyed my atrix as it has some nice custom ROMs. However it is upgrade time and the tech in me wants to upgrade / change. The infuse is free and has a 2.5 inch screen and a super camera which is important to me. However a single core processor? Really. But then it has great sdcard storage. Battery life is supposed to be great and I would use custom Rom if it made a difference
HTC Titan. Again single core 1.5 processor 512mb RAM. But supposedly mango doesn't need the processing power that android does. Plus it's 199.00. Ouch. However a big 4.7 inch screen and a 8 mp camera. 16gb non expandable RAM.
SG2. Sweet. But 4.3 inch screen. 199.00. Dual core 1.5 processor. Very nice phone.
I guess I'm looking for input. I like my atrix but want good camera and bigger screen but like to play games. However a solid battery would be nice. I want it all. Lol
Happy New Year.
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Infuse has a 4.5 inch screen. Not 2.5
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I'd avoid the HTC Titan (price, battery life) and Skyrocket (price, CPU, screen tuning issues). Unless you are invested in having a top-notch DAC for listening to music on your phone and have browsed the Infuse forums enough to know what to expect in terms of issues and ROM's, I'd recommend sticking with the regular SGS2.
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Battery life on the Titan is good actually.

sgs2
The sgs 2 skyrocet becase it has a dual core prosser
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the gs2 has a exynos processor it may only be 1.2ghz but it absolutely rocks. the skyrocket has a qualcomm chip. not too shabby. the attic has a tegra chip. meh. actually the infuse can play better videos than the atrix and thought the benchmarks may look close in 3d I think the renderings are better on the hummingbird which may be why Motorola switched to the omap4 with the power vr540 gpu from imagination technologies which is the same gpu the hummingbird runs. but I think the exynos and dualcore snapdragon are both better.
I'm pretty interested in meego powered phones myself but haven't had a chance to use one. maybe some day...
if it were me I'd either get the free phone or a gs2 the skyrocket if you get lte service, I don't know enough about the HTC to comment on it. the infuse is at a disadvantage though because it is always late on updates and will probably never see ics officially.
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i am with you on that

sdelliott31 said:
Thanks again all. I'm going to try and hold out for the Note or the SGS2 if the price drops. But it does seem that Samsung is on to something on the phone front, plus tablets.
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Exactly what Im doing!! I wont have an upgrade for a while but I will be getting a nice refund from fafsa next feb/march, so Im hoping the note will be here by then.
If you want to get a feel for how it is in the hand and screen and so forth--Head to Best Buy and they usually have a working new Samsung music player on display. I believe it shares all the same specs as the Note except it has no stylus, and no phone features. Same screen size and general form factor though. You could see how it feels in hand, up to your ear etc.

Galaxy S III Released!

So the Galaxy S III has been unveiled.
My PRO's= Screen Resolution, processor, GPU, RAM, memory.
My CON's= Screen type (SAMOLED -_-)
I can't really think of anything else. Comment on your pro's and con's if you would like!

Pros
1. Its Samsung
2. The screen. Any HD screen is better than our cappys lol and I like black being black
3. MicroSD and Removable battery
4. Multitasking = WOW
5. Embrace of NFC
Cons
1. $$$$$ for international version
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Oh and if you guys are going to purchase this beast, what color would you choose:
Marble** white or pebble blue?
And if you're going for a case or leave it as is?
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Yeah. Its amazing. I can't believe the mass amounts of people that say its ugly, garbage, the same.
Granted that 2GHz quad core A-15 would've been worth waiting long but its nice.
HD SAmoled.
Up to 64GB plus up to 64GB card. 2100MAH battery
So well integrated and intuitive.
I hope to obtain one in the near future.
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Def blue
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Guys, I read some comments on another site that US/Canadian would have a lower CPU to accommodate LTE? I didn't understand that, could someone clarify

I didn't use my upgrade on the SII so I'll be planning on picking this one up in the Pebble Blue. I just can't do white devices. Maybe it reminds me of my childhood with all the Beige/White systems.

Performance seems to be pretty good, a good setup from my Captivate so I am all for that.
So while I would have loved a A15 quad or even better GPU, well, we always want more so I think I will be happy with it. It does not seem as the Nvidia thing is catching up so I hope the whole Tegra exclusive crap is over otherwise, having a super GPU when the games are getting better features only for Tegra wont help me much.
Not sure why someone cannot be happy with the screen. Black is black and everything is punchy. I have a HD projector calibrated so I can be picky but I love Samsung screens.
Now the Q is..how long before stupid ATT brings it here.

USA releases are slotted for June. More info, as always, pending carrier announcements. Those will probably come when their world tour stops off in NYC, from what I'd guess.

man I am way behind

How can one hate that curved metal finish on the side. It's very sexy.
The whole camera-design thing: who actually looks at their camera lens on a daily basis? Its always behind the phone where you'll rarely ever see it. People these days...

panda_mode said:
How can one hate that curved metal finish on the side. It's very sexy.
The whole camera-design thing: who actually looks at their camera lens on a daily basis? Its always behind the phone where you'll rarely ever see it. People these days...
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Seriously when I read people cons...being about looks I feel the same way...come on now.

Definitely looking forward to upgrade.
There's been speculation that to accommodate LTE in the North American release, they might go with an S4 instead of the Exynos, which is also an excellent processor (though I would have liked to experience the Exynos).
Still, it's almost time to upgrade for me. It'll be nice to experience LTE.
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I'm totally in love with this beast. Its hardware and features are awesome.
As soon as I could get one, my beloved Cappy could then take a step back and be my backup

My Captivate has served me well. It has never failed me. Hate to retire it, but I want the GS3.
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My Captivate has served me well. It has never failed me. Hate to retire it, but I want the GS3.
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I agree. Never had a phone that lasted this long without me wanting to upgrade..and the way new Roms and OCing kept extending its life its pretty awesome.

Was anxiously awaiting this thing since even though my cappy is beyond amazing, it's begun to feel its age a bit and I'm totally looking forward to a new phone.
I am totally not disappointed and can't wait to finally get my upgrade when it comes out.
The screen is awesome, and since I never got to see super amoled + I can't say I'm going to miss it. I just hope the GS3 is anywhere near as good to me as my cappy has been - although I'm going to miss the build of this phone cause it was awesome.

I love the specs...but I'm a tad disappointed by its aesthetics... I mean it looks like a cheaper quality phone with all that plastic...on the other hand HTC one x looks like sex

Same here didn't use my upgrade yet but will wait to see what the US versions specs are. Might be changing from AT&T to Sprint soon as wife contract is up.

I was really disappointed with the Galaxy S3. I will most likely be upgrading to the HTC One X. In almost every situation the One X beats or is a tie with the S3.
Screen: Most reviews say that the One X has a better screen then the Galaxy Nexus, so I believe that with the S3 having essentially the same screen as the nexus the One X's will be better.
Processor/SOC: The S3 will likely have an S4 in Canada so in that case it is a tie. If the S3 does have the quad core in Canada it will probably not be that noticeable of a difference.
Software: Both will likely have great Rom development, but in a worst case scenario, I can live with Sense 4.0, I cannot live with that hideous touchwiz.
Hardware: (IMO) The One X is gorgeous. The S3 is meh. Also, the S3 has a menu button, what were you thinking Samsung! I don't care about a removable battery or sd card slot.
Camera: I'm guessing it will be about the same (Don't care much about camera).

[Q] HOX or SGS3

So I have to either return/replace my HOX due to a camera problem anyway, but since the Galaxy S3 is coming out pretty soon, I'm thinking of just returning it and waiting a few weeks for the GS3. It seems the Galaxy S3 is faster on benchmarks, is there really any disadvantage to it? All benchmarks were from the international version, although the dual core in the AT&T version is claimed to be just as fast. Any opinions?

Both phones will be just as fast as each other, if you ask me. The only difference is the 2gb of RAM.
But let me say this again. 2gb of RAM is unecessary for a mobile platform like Android. Not bad, but unnecessary. The only reason why Samsung put the 2gb of RAM in it is to market it as a better feature, as it can't market the processor as the average public sees dual core as average right now. 2gb of RAM is appealing to the average consumer, but for us, we know it really won't do much in terms of processing power on Android.
This is how I see it:
You want a cheap and ugly device? Get the SGIII
You want a beutiful device? Get the HOX
I don't mean to sound biased, but I'm coming from the GSII and I loved it because it was fast. Not because of the quality, but because of the speed. The fact was that I was sick of Samsungs crappy build quality; it just doesn't feel right. Thats why I jumped ship to HTC and let me say that I am very impressed.
And now that we have bootloader unlock, theres none of that "HTC sucks a$$" because even though they do in terms of giving in to AT&T's demands, firstly theres no saying that they won't do the same for the GSIII and that we won't be seeing a lot of development.
In terms of the removable battery and SD card slot, niehter of those are a problem for me. SD Card = Only if you go crazy with storing stuff. Removable battery = You won't be able to run down the battery life on this thing easily.
In my opinion, the One X is the superior device. But really, it comes down to what you want.
And don't let that whole multitasking issue fool you for the HOX. It will be remidied soon with an AOSP build of ICS.

I am in the same boat as you. I installed Apex launcher today and that made it a little better, then rooted and installed the vanilla messaging app, but the 8 hour or less battery life I can't handle along with HTC Sense.
I purchased mine through Amazon though....and don't exactly know how the return process works, nor will they let me get a S3. I have until the 21st to figure out how to unroot this thing and trade it in.

SilentLunatic said:
I am in the same boat as you. I installed Apex launcher today and that made it a little better, then rooted and installed the vanilla messaging app, but the 8 hour or less battery life I can't handle along with HTC Sense.
I purchased mine through Amazon though....and don't exactly know how the return process works, nor will they let me get a S3. I have until the 21st to figure out how to unroot this thing and trade it in.
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Unroot is easy....if you unlocked the bootloader there's nothing you can do about that. It will say either unlocked or relocked.

its using the same s4 chip, same phone, just more ram?

Not giving up on my One X, but more ram would be very beneficial for the One X. Sense is killing this phone. Although I'd like to have an AOKP or CM9 build....sense is nice.
And what happened with Google saying that they were gonna require all ICS phones to have the ability to run stock Holo. Did someone make that up or did Google go back on it?

One x.
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Saying this since no one else has. The android 4.0 OS uses ram like windows. For android its beneficial has it makes opening apps quicker. Hence why a lot of ram is being used. Technically the gsIII will show roughly 1.5 gigs for use for the system since 400 MB will be for the GPU another 100-300 for UI rest for apps.
So far 2gb ram is a good thing. But, not always is more good. More ram equals more power equals less battery life especially if its unused. Even the heaviest user won't use more than a gig of it.
Basically how you see free ram on the HOX will be the same on the GSIII. Also The GSIII needs that ram to run all the little animations for touchwiz. I wouldn't be surprised if a majority is allocates just for SVoice and TW.
IMHO, the GSIII is step backward from forward innovation of Android 4.0. Since it wasn't deisgned for 2gb ram. The S4 is but looking at its specs 5% more power is used to run the read write to that extra gig.
Look at the power specs. Do it by match. There's less battery time to power to usage ratio on the GSIII with the ram and the amoled then with the HOX
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Guster730 said:
So I have to either return/replace my HOX due to a camera problem anyway, but since the Galaxy S3 is coming out pretty soon, I'm thinking of just returning it and waiting a few weeks for the GS3. It seems the Galaxy S3 is faster on benchmarks, is there really any disadvantage to it? All benchmarks were from the international version, although the dual core in the AT&T version is claimed to be just as fast. Any opinions?
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If the international version had a screen as nice as our One X, I would get it in a heart beat. The Pentile is the major killer for the SGS3. Secondary to that is the design, the phone looks like something old and weak. The fact that the stateside versions got an S4 just like One X, the SGS3 just became worthless to me. The 2Gb of ram is not enough to make up for the flaws of the SGS3.
With the Exynos processor and true RGB display. I would be on the International SGS3 forums instead of One X.

From what I'm reading, the GS3 camera sensor is not updated (from GNEX or GS2?), and is "last generation" technology. Samsung just made some software tweaks to copycat some of the ImageSense features, such as being able to take photos will taking video.
The proof will be in a side-by-side comparison. But its looking like the One X camera will be better than the GS3, and the camera on my phone is important to me.

redpoint73 said:
From what I'm reading, the GS3 camera sensor is not updated (from GNEX or GS2?), and is "last generation" technology. Samsung just made some software tweaks to copycat some of the ImageSense features, such as being able to take photos will taking video.
The proof will be in a side-by-side comparison. But its looking like the One X camera will be better than the GS3, and the camera on my phone is important to me.
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I read that the SGS3 uses the exact same optics (sony) that the iPhone 4S has. either way, the cameras will be very close to comparability. Either way, 95% of the pictures that are taken by the average consumer will be of their puppy/baby and blasted over facebook.

I don't use the camera all that much. Also is there a huge difference between the pentile display on the GS3 and this one? Today is the last day I have to return the phone and I'm really tempted to go for the galaxy s3.
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Guster730 said:
I don't use the camera all that much. Also is there a huge difference between the pentile display on the GS3 and this one? Today is the last day I have to return the phone and I'm really tempted to go for the galaxy s3.
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The display on the HOX has been called the best display anyone has seen on any phone period. The Verge did a review of the SGS 3 and said that the display on the HOX is better.
IMHO the US version of the SGS 3 is the same as the AT&T HOX only with more internal RAM, an SD Card and slightly better camera.
I'm not returning my HOX.

Guster730 said:
I don't use the camera all that much. Also is there a huge difference between the pentile display on the GS3 and this one? Today is the last day I have to return the phone and I'm really tempted to go for the galaxy s3.
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I'm attaching a picture I put together from images I found here. It's comparing the displays of the Galaxy S, S2, and S3 phones. Unfortunately they didn't compare it to the One X, but you can at least get an idea of how much the appearance of "pentileness" is reduced (by the higher resolution) between the original S and the S3.
(The backgrounds, icons, and focus aren't identical here, but I did the best I could to put them side-by-side at a size that would not get shrunk when I upload here. You can see the full images at the link I gave.)
My impression is that hands-down, the One X has the best display you can buy, but that I can probably live with pentile at the S3's resolution, and that extra RAM is looking mighty good.

i would definitely return the HOX if I still had that choice. The SG3 has better features and does not appear to be as crippled in terms of future software development.

robstunner said:
I read that the SGS3 uses the exact same optics (sony) that the iPhone 4S has. either way, the cameras will be very close to comparability. Either way, 95% of the pictures that are taken by the average consumer will be of their puppy/baby and blasted over facebook.
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Interesting, but partially true. I found an article on this below. Apparently the same sensor as the iPhone, but different optics. Sensor and optics are not the same thing. Sensor is the electronic portion, optics is the glass lens.
http://www.t3.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-has-same-camera-sensor-as-iphone-4s
Don't have time to look for it now, but a review I read of the GS3 described it as having a "last gen" sensor and same as previous Galaxy devices. Apparently this is not true, and the teardown definitely shows what the hardware is.
EDIT: Here's the article that called the sensor "last gen":
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s3-1078667/review/page:9#articleContent

Sorry, I just don't see it. The only things the SG3 has over the HOX is removable storage (not a big deal for me) and maybe the 2GB of ram. Other than that I think the HOX is superior in every other way.
Also for those of us who actually care about design and how your phone actually looks, there simply is no comparison there, the HOX was clearly designed and the SG3 seems very average in terms of looks and the wording of their colors like "pebble" blue, won't save them there.

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I'm attaching a picture I put together from images I found here. It's comparing the displays of the Galaxy S, S2, and S3 phones. Unfortunately they didn't compare it to the One X, but you can at least get an idea of how much the appearance of "pentileness" is reduced (by the higher resolution) between the original S and the S3.
(The backgrounds, icons, and focus aren't identical here, but I did the best I could to put them side-by-side at a size that would not get shrunk when I upload here. You can see the full images at the link I gave.)
My impression is that hands-down, the One X has the best display you can buy, but that I can probably live with pentile at the S3's resolution, and that extra RAM is looking mighty good.
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IMO the major difference between the screens is the resolution, though. I don't really see a lack of "pentileness". I think the thing is just that S1 and S2 looked horrible because of their low resolutions, regardless of pentile display. People see a Samsung phone with a higher resolution finally, and don't know what to do about it. Pentile is still there just as much as before.
As for the 2 GB of RAM, if you want to degrade your battery power for unnecessary RAM, go for it.
I'm not going to be dumb and say the SGS3 is a bad phone, but both phones are so close it's going to come down to personal preference for many. The way I see it, the benefits to the SGS3 are an SD card slot and removable battery, while the HOX sports a nicer display and is arguably "better looking" (obviously looks are subjective, but I've heard way more people rave about the looks of the HOX, and I've yet to hear anyone say they DON'T like the way it looks... have heard a lot of people say they don't like the look of the SGS3, and I agree that it is underwhelming at the very least, especially considering all the hype).
So, if you can live with using the cloud for storage, and don't have an issue with appx 15-16 hrs of battery life under normal usage with around 4 hrs of screen time on avg, then HOX is probably the better choice. If you need to be able to store backups of 4 ROMs on your phone and don't trust cloud networking or just don't have a good internet connection in most places, or expect to play games on your phone all day long and swap batteries without skipping a beat, or if you just plain feel that the SGS3 looks better, then SGS3 is clearly the better option for you.

I'm kind've leaning towards the SGS 3 and returning my One X (have 3 more days for the return window) based off of battery life alone. I can not get more than 2.5 hours of on screen time, and it usually averages around 2 hours max on screen time before it's dead. I've been on stock...1.83 stock...and 1.83 Clean Rom. Battery life hasn't changed between any of the roms. This is with screen brightness set to auto, but that is a requirement for me. I hear the SGS 3 really has some great battery life. If I could get 4 hours of on screen time on my One X it would be no competition but I'm only seeing HALF of that battery life...not very good.
Anyone have some recommendations? I've ran Battery stats and cpu spy and it's sleeping like normal. best performance wifi is off. The screen seems to be taking up the most power, but if I can't keep it on auto and get more than 2 hours of on screen time I'm not sure I'll be keeping the phone.

I am probably returning my HOX as well. The PHONE portion of the HOX is just poor compared to my last two phones (atrix,3gs) in regards signal, voice quality, and speakerphone. The clincher was when my wife noticed it.
That is probably the weakest thing about the phone. I also see this phone being a red headed step child with devs, due mostly to the availability issues. I'm new to HTC and i can say I don't care much for sense. It does not seem very well thought out. It just does not flow for me and comes off awkward.
I think HOX is a good device but the phone issues are inexcusable for me. Everything I've seen about touchwiz i like over Sense which just feels messy.
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+ better battery
+ better phone quality
+ easily replace battery when worn out
+ better dev support
- worse screen
- slightly less attractive case
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+ better screen
- poor phone quality