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Thunderbolt vs Samsung Charge Opinions plz

I have until April 16 for my 15 day window to swap devices. I wanted true objective opinions comparing the two options. I am thrilled with the overall performance of the TB but the things I am weighing are...
SAMOLED vs WVGA TFT (will the SAMOLED improve the poor battery life enough)
HDMI out for the samsung (I wish they had provided this on the TB)
all else seems the same to me since I would be rooting it and not using the touch Wiz UI or waiting on samsung for updates.
Is there any info that could/would tip the scales to Samsung?
Thank you for you input.

There is the build quality. From what I've seen the charge appears to be made with a cheap looking plastic back, while the build quality on the thunderbolt is great. There's also those physical buttons rather than the capacitive ones, but that's just personal preference. The hummingbird gpu is far superior to that of the thunderbolt, and the battery on the charge is larger. Whatever your decision you'll still have a great phone either way.

Its really your personal preference, sense or touchwiz. Light or heavy. Physical or capacitive. Its reallly up to you, all the LTE phones will and must be great
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I just came from the epic, and I feel like a fool for not buying htc sooner. Yeah, I liked the screen... But this screen is nothing to complain about. I am certain that the lack of samsung software updates will eventually bother you. My epic spent its whole life running buggy software leaks, and the alternative was horribly out dated stock os. I was sure that samsung was a better choice and I am still bothered that I even bothered with that phone.
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If Samsung gave out better software updates and better build quality(comparable to iphone or htc), they would reign superior. No joke.
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AMOLED Kicks ass!..the only thing i miss from my fascinate.

I would wait for the S II instead of Charge. New Touchwiz. No gps nor wifi option from notification bar is a minor inconvenience. Lack of mediahub, readerhub and Samsung software integration is another one. I'm ok w Samsung build coming from galaxy tab
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samsung build is fine..but lack of updates is HORRENDOUS!!! The fascinate is still running eclair!!

Kickstand!

magicriggs said:
Kickstand!
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LOL..Seriously??

magicriggs said:
Kickstand!
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Well there you have it! Kickstand. Best reason yet. LOL
But seriously guys. Great response time. Thanks a ton! I will agree that I wish Samsung had not cornered the market on AMOLED. I love those displays but cant stand their current attitude towards updates and customer interest. I wasn't worried much about updates since I would be rooting immed, and personally I do miss not having to reach all the way on top in a bit of an awkward position to wake my device. That said I will stick with my TB now I believe pending some amazing life altering experience with the AMOLED on the 14th when I hold the charge side by side with the TB. If if is nominal then TB it is, if it will change the way I am able to use my phone with the AMOLED then Charge!
Thanks again for all the great input!

n2imagination said:
I have until April 16 for my 15 day window to swap devices. I wanted true objective opinions comparing the two options. I am thrilled with the overall performance of the TB but the things I am weighing are...
SAMOLED vs WVGA TFT (will the SAMOLED improve the poor battery life enough)
HDMI out for the samsung (I wish they had provided this on the TB)
all else seems the same to me since I would be rooting it and not using the touch Wiz UI or waiting on samsung for updates.
Is there any info that could/would tip the scales to Samsung?
Thank you for you input.
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Truly, it doesn't matter that Charge is probably a better device. The community support for the thunderbolt can't be matched, that's why I'm sticking with it till htc throws out a dual core lte phone. And honestly, besides the battery, the device is a perfect fit for me. dlna works as a great substitute to hdmi, I'm happy. And don't knock the kickstand, I never put the phone down without it deployed. I like everyone to have to look at it when they walk bye it.

I own both Samsung Epic and HTC Thunderbolt. From experience:
Pros
HTC OS/software more stable
Samsung AMOLED (black should be black and not grey)
Samsung GPU performance
Samsung Touchwiz is more intuitive (don't care much for eye candy)
Cons
Samsung slow with OS releases and usually buggy in general
HTC weight (Ford Pinto weighs more than Porsche but it doesn't mean it's better)
HTC no built in file explorer
In a nutshell, Samsung has better hardware but it's nullified by unstable and slow software updates. HTC is a more usable phone and better experience overall due to more stable software even though the hardware is not as strong.

Thunderbolts gpu isnt as bad as people think. U get over 50 fps via neocore still.

How is the gpu in the Samsung superior?
My TB performs better than my Facinate ever did, stock or rooted. Development is a lot better too.
brettm22 said:
There is the build quality. From what I've seen the charge appears to be made with a cheap looking plastic back, while the build quality on the thunderbolt is great. There's also those physical buttons rather than the capacitive ones, but that's just personal preference. The hummingbird gpu is far superior to that of the thunderbolt, and the battery on the charge is larger. Whatever your decision you'll still have a great phone either way.
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suzook said:
samsung build is fine..but lack of updates is HORRENDOUS!!! The fascinate is still running eclair!!
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Come on....Do you think they will put Eclair on Galaxy S II? FWIW, I'm very happy with Froyo for a phone.

Sweeny Russ said:
Truly, it doesn't matter that Charge is probably a better device. The community support for the thunderbolt can't be matched, that's why I'm sticking with it till htc throws out a dual core lte phone. And honestly, besides the battery, the device is a perfect fit for me. dlna works as a great substitute to hdmi, I'm happy. And don't knock the kickstand, I never put the phone down without it deployed. I like everyone to have to look at it when they walk bye it.
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Even though I believe Samsung will have its own support community I do agree that the TB community is great and has a head start just as the og droid did and still does. Two things would make me thrilled.
1. Cyanogen gets an officially supported TB rom done.
2. Someone creates a DLNA to tv converter box (for those of us without DLNA supported tv's).

The thunderbolt has slcd screen and in my opinion I like the slcd better than samoled. I have owned nexus one (amoled), captivate (super amoled), incredible (amoled), incredible (slcd), and now thundeebolt (slcd) so I have used enough to give my opinion. I was a huge amoled fan and that is the reason I ignored everyone about samsung phones and picked up the captivate. Nevr again will I ever buy samsung absolutely horrible company that only cares about their bottom dollar. I would keep the bolt just for that, but if you want more I personally like slcd way more than super smoled as it uses the pentile matrix display (if you want an excellent read then google "arstechnica pentile") with slcd you get the bright vivid colors without the trade off of blurry text. I personally would choose slcd over any screen tech out right now, but that is just me. Besides the samsung phone being, well, samsung made it has that god awful chin and worst touchwiz. I know you are going to root but I promise the developer support will be much better on the bolt and verizon is sure to do their best to lock down the charge and we don't even know how long it will take to root and even longer get a great rom to get you off touchwiz. I see no positives in ever buying samsung especially over HTC but again that is me. Hope this helps and at least you know no matter what choice you make you will have the god send verizon LTE.

suzook said:
LOL..Seriously??
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When everything is similar to all upcoming devices, specs and features get blurred. I say kickstand jokingly but with truth. Its a hardware feature I use a lot. There both so similiar and they both have there flaws no matter what device you get but if your having a hard time deciding on a phone I would look at the little tiny frivolous things that make that phone. ........ Kickstand.

Yeah personally I just want to see cyanogenmod7 on this thing...
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Infuse or Sg2 or HTC Titan

I have the motorola Atrix and enjoy the phone but before that I had the 5" dell streak. I have enjoyed my atrix as it has some nice custom ROMs. However it is upgrade time and the tech in me wants to upgrade / change. The infuse is free and has a 2.5 inch screen and a super camera which is important to me. However a single core processor? Really. But then it has great sdcard storage. Battery life is supposed to be great and I would use custom Rom if it made a difference
HTC Titan. Again single core 1.5 processor 512mb RAM. But supposedly mango doesn't need the processing power that android does. Plus it's 199.00. Ouch. However a big 4.7 inch screen and a 8 mp camera. 16gb non expandable RAM.
SG2. Sweet. But 4.3 inch screen. 199.00. Dual core 1.5 processor. Very nice phone.
I guess I'm looking for input. I like my atrix but want good camera and bigger screen but like to play games. However a solid battery would be nice. I want it all. Lol
Happy New Year.

there are two galaxy s 2 models for att. the attain model with a 4.3" screen and a dual core 1.2ghz. and the skyrocket with a 4.5" screen, dual core 1.5ghz, and lte. keep in mind the samsung phones have very pretty samoled screens. and all the phones you listed are wvga and the atrix had a qhd display (though higher resolution it did have a yucky pentile display).
ive been eyeing that lg nitro with its 720p display and lte. and though it wins out on specs i just dont like lg for some reason. so maybe ill wait for something like the lg but better.

Thanks. I knew about the skyrockets but they are 250.00. Paying that with a two year contract seems foolish too me anyway. After more reading and YouTube videos I think I am at the SGS2 or waiting a month and seeing what prices do. It's funny this summer I was pining away for the infuse but had no upgrade.

1 android only boots on one core
2 if your a big on your phone gamer than the dual core is handy
3 I have an sgs2...my infuse is faster and has a better ui ....if u stay on the web or game all the time then u can take advantage of the second core....
Until they develop apps that take advantage of the dual core I personally don't see the point at this time.
Like I said I have an sgs2 and my infuse is my daily driver due to is just a better all around phone
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dman3285 said:
1 android only boots on one core
2 if your a big on your phone gamer than the dual core is handy
3 I have an sgs2...my infuse is faster and has a better ui ....if u stay on the web or game all the time then u can take advantage of the second core....
Until they develop apps that take advantage of the dual core I personally don't see the point at this time.
Like I said I have an sgs2 and my infuse is my daily driver due to is just a better all around phone
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Wow, very interesting. I've read and read many forums and YouTube videos. I am assuming that is where ICS may come in, taking fuller advantage of the hardware.
Here's what I do with my phone.
I'm a teacher. Other than websites and taking pictures and posting them to fb then I watch videos and texting music then light gaming. I have the Asus transformer prime for my gaming and more intense things. But I'd say my biggest goals are
Battery life
Good camera and video
Bigger nice display
Storage
Facebook integration ( which most everything has)

I'm a long time Infuse owner (since june 2011) and I feel that the Infuse has everything you could really want in a phone right now. Granted development for it has had a slump in activity. But if your not into flashing roms all the time then all your good. The screen is just absolutely gorgeous and unmatchable as far as colors go. The blacks are actually pitch black! But aside from that its just great all around. For the things you pointed out, the sgs2 would seem like too much phone for the job. And you just can't beat the cost savings for what your getting with the infuse. I paid 170 for mine and it was all worth it. If you keep it stock you could also use it as an entertainment PC for your living room through HDMI too. Which is awesome.
Just to recap, the phone is fast enough to do everything you need. It also has a camera good enough to replace my point and shoot canon. And the screen size hits that sweet spot of not being too big while still having a really decent resolution and color reproduction. For me its a no-brainer. But if ics is looking interesting to you I would walk into a Verizon store and ask to play with a new nexus. And see if the difference is worth the price. If it is. Then I would keep what you got and just wait for the Galaxy Note to come stateside. 5" 720p samoled screen is all I have to say.
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dman3285 said:
1 android only boots on one core
2 if your a big on your phone gamer than the dual core is handy
3 I have an sgs2...my infuse is faster and has a better ui ....if u stay on the web or game all the time then u can take advantage of the second core....
Until they develop apps that take advantage of the dual core I personally don't see the point at this time.
Like I said I have an sgs2 and my infuse is my daily driver due to is just a better all around phone
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Agree totally. And the infuse is 4.5" screen and single core is enough on this phone.
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sdelliott31 said:
Wow, very interesting. I've read and read many forums and YouTube videos. I am assuming that is where ICS may come in, taking fuller advantage of the hardware.
Here's what I do with my phone.
I'm a teacher. Other than websites and taking pictures and posting them to fb then I watch videos and texting music then light gaming. I have the Asus transformer prime for my gaming and more intense things. But I'd say my biggest goals are
Battery life
Good camera and video
Bigger nice display
Storage
Facebook integration ( which most everything has)
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I think you Need an infuse then. Dman has some good roms for it. Just switched to catyrom and the phone runs great and for free what more can you want until the note comes state side like I'm waiting for. Being a previous streak owner.
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Ahhhh the Galaxy Note. Pure ecstasy. That's in the end the phone I'm willing to pay some money for.
Thanks everyone for being cool. I've been reading in the dev section too. I'll keep you posted but I like people sticking up for their phones so I'm going to keep researching the Infuse!

the gs2 has a exynos processor it may only be 1.2ghz but it absolutely rocks. the skyrocket has a qualcomm chip. not too shabby. the attic has a tegra chip. meh. actually the infuse can play better videos than the atrix and thought the benchmarks may look close in 3d I think the renderings are better on the hummingbird which may be why Motorola switched to the omap4 with the power vr540 gpu from imagination technologies which is the same gpu the hummingbird runs. but I think the exynos and dualcore snapdragon are both better.
I'm pretty interested in meego powered phones myself but haven't had a chance to use one. maybe some day...
if it were me I'd either get the free phone or a gs2 the skyrocket if you get lte service, I don't know enough about the HTC to comment on it. the infuse is at a disadvantage though because it is always late on updates and will probably never see ics officially.

Both sgs2 models are more expensive online. The skyrocket in store is 149.99 with contract. I believe the other one is 99.99 with. Though the Infuse is just as good and if you don't live in an LTE area, like most of us then its not worth it. Except of course that the sgs2 (both models) is getting ICS officially. The infuse has the advantage of a metal case and i've dropped mine many times where i thought surely it broke yet its fine. I personally don't like HTC for some reason, not really sure why.
Though honestly I would wait a little. The sgs3 is gonna be released relatively soon, along with some other very nice phones. The galaxy note is gonna be released here soon too. So since you already have a decent phone and are so close to a new line of phones, i'd wait the 2 or 3 months.

etbob623 said:
Both sgs2 models are more expensive online. The skyrocket in store is 149.99 with contract. I believe the other one is 99.99 with. Though the Infuse is just as good and if you don't live in an LTE area, like most of us then its not worth it. Except of course that the sgs2 (both models) is getting ICS officially. The infuse has the advantage of a metal case and i've dropped mine many times where i thought surely it broke yet its fine. I personally don't like HTC for some reason, not really sure why.
Though honestly I would wait a little. The sgs3 is gonna be released relatively soon, along with some other very nice phones. The galaxy note is gonna be released here soon too. So since you already have a decent phone and are so close to a new line of phones, i'd wait the 2 or 3 months.
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The Infuse isn't metal - it's metallic-finish plastic. Same for the SGS2.
However, people falsely always assume that plastic = cheap - it's not, if properly done, and Samsung has chosen their plastic types VERY well in the Infuse and GS2. As an example of plastics that do better than metal:
Airbus A380
Boeing 787
F-22 Raptor
(Admittedly, most of the above are fiber reinforced composites - but still, it's a variant of plastic)
Anything made using Delrin
Don't get the Skyrocket - it has everything wrong with it that drives developers away from the Infuse and more. People falsely assume that developers go for specs, but we don't - we go for phones that don't fight us. That's why the Captivate still has a robust development community and the Infuse's never really took off, with only a small handful of developers, many of whom got frustrated and said "**** it" and left. That's why the I777 will always have a more robust developer community than the Skyrocket - We only need half the developers to achieve twice the work because the I777 community can leverage the I9100 community, while the Skyrocket community has nothing to leverage. (Well, the T989 community, but that's not exactly very useful.)

I'd get the Skyrocket ($149.99) if it plays my TV shows in MKV format without having to re-encode. Otherwise I'd get the SGS2 ($199.99).
From the benchmarks I've seen it appears the SGS2 is a tad bit faster but if you're going to be tied to a two year contract and AT&T is SLOWLY rolling out LTE it seems like a no brainer to get the LTE capable phone.
Forgot to mention the Skyrocket has a larger screen and battery.

Entropy512 said:
The Infuse isn't metal - it's metallic-finish plastic. Same for the SGS2.
However, people falsely always assume that plastic = cheap - it's not, if properly done, and Samsung has chosen their plastic types VERY well in the Infuse and GS2. As an example of plastics that do better than metal:
Airbus A380
Boeing 787
F-22 Raptor
(Admittedly, most of the above are fiber reinforced composites - but still, it's a variant of plastic)
Anything made using Delrin
Don't get the Skyrocket - it has everything wrong with it that drives developers away from the Infuse and more. People falsely assume that developers go for specs, but we don't - we go for phones that don't fight us. That's why the Captivate still has a robust development community and the Infuse's never really took off, with only a small handful of developers, many of whom got frustrated and said "**** it" and left. That's why the I777 will always have a more robust developer community than the Skyrocket - We only need half the developers to achieve twice the work because the I777 community can leverage the I9100 community, while the Skyrocket community has nothing to leverage. (Well, the T989 community, but that's not exactly very useful.)
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actually all the modern Samsung phones may have a plastic outer shell but the screen is bonded to a metal frame that the main board is mounted to. on the infuse it looks quite robust. it may be confused with plastic having a very dull grey look and a black coating where the battery sits but I've scratched it doing a screen replacement and I assure you there is a good chunk of metal in the infuses construction. it is very light weight though which is why it never occurred to people that there is metal in there. maybe it's a porous aluminum casting, maybe its magnesium which is about half the weight of aluminum. I didn't think to spark test it before I put it together. but I agree Samsung plastics for the outer shell are also top notch. not scratch or dent resistant but very fracture resistant. even the slip cover on the i9000, vibrant and fascinate though it has a cheap appearance is extremely scratch resistant and resilient. Samsung=cheap looks but rugged construction.

I'd avoid the HTC Titan (price, battery life) and Skyrocket (price, CPU, screen tuning issues). Unless you are invested in having a top-notch DAC for listening to music on your phone and have browsed the Infuse forums enough to know what to expect in terms of issues and ROM's, I'd recommend sticking with the regular SGS2.

Thanks again all. I'm going to try and hold out for the Note or the SGS2 if the price drops. But it does seem that Samsung is on to something on the phone front, plus tablets.

sdelliott31 said:
I have the motorola Atrix and enjoy the phone but before that I had the 5" dell streak. I have enjoyed my atrix as it has some nice custom ROMs. However it is upgrade time and the tech in me wants to upgrade / change. The infuse is free and has a 2.5 inch screen and a super camera which is important to me. However a single core processor? Really. But then it has great sdcard storage. Battery life is supposed to be great and I would use custom Rom if it made a difference
HTC Titan. Again single core 1.5 processor 512mb RAM. But supposedly mango doesn't need the processing power that android does. Plus it's 199.00. Ouch. However a big 4.7 inch screen and a 8 mp camera. 16gb non expandable RAM.
SG2. Sweet. But 4.3 inch screen. 199.00. Dual core 1.5 processor. Very nice phone.
I guess I'm looking for input. I like my atrix but want good camera and bigger screen but like to play games. However a solid battery would be nice. I want it all. Lol
Happy New Year.
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Infuse has a 4.5 inch screen. Not 2.5
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GGXtreme said:
I'd avoid the HTC Titan (price, battery life) and Skyrocket (price, CPU, screen tuning issues). Unless you are invested in having a top-notch DAC for listening to music on your phone and have browsed the Infuse forums enough to know what to expect in terms of issues and ROM's, I'd recommend sticking with the regular SGS2.
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Battery life on the Titan is good actually.

sgs2
The sgs 2 skyrocet becase it has a dual core prosser
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Dani897 said:
the gs2 has a exynos processor it may only be 1.2ghz but it absolutely rocks. the skyrocket has a qualcomm chip. not too shabby. the attic has a tegra chip. meh. actually the infuse can play better videos than the atrix and thought the benchmarks may look close in 3d I think the renderings are better on the hummingbird which may be why Motorola switched to the omap4 with the power vr540 gpu from imagination technologies which is the same gpu the hummingbird runs. but I think the exynos and dualcore snapdragon are both better.
I'm pretty interested in meego powered phones myself but haven't had a chance to use one. maybe some day...
if it were me I'd either get the free phone or a gs2 the skyrocket if you get lte service, I don't know enough about the HTC to comment on it. the infuse is at a disadvantage though because it is always late on updates and will probably never see ics officially.
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i am with you on that

sdelliott31 said:
Thanks again all. I'm going to try and hold out for the Note or the SGS2 if the price drops. But it does seem that Samsung is on to something on the phone front, plus tablets.
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Exactly what Im doing!! I wont have an upgrade for a while but I will be getting a nice refund from fafsa next feb/march, so Im hoping the note will be here by then.
If you want to get a feel for how it is in the hand and screen and so forth--Head to Best Buy and they usually have a working new Samsung music player on display. I believe it shares all the same specs as the Note except it has no stylus, and no phone features. Same screen size and general form factor though. You could see how it feels in hand, up to your ear etc.

What comes next?

To Soon?
But anyways since the OneX seems to be a good rounded device when it comes to hardware what comes next? Besides better radio(4G etc) and display what is there to add besides more ram and higher core speeds?
I've grown used to the Android Market announcing some superior phone at the beginning of the year only to be out done by another come the Holidays. I thinking of getting a One X, but the thought lingers of come a months time or two after I've gotten it something "better" gets leaked/announced.
I didn't post this in the Q&A since its more of general idea then an actual question regarding the phone.

If you are waiting to buy because something better will be out soon, you will never buy a phone.
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joshnichols189 said:
If you are waiting to buy because something better will be out soon, you will never buy a phone.
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I get that there will always be something better down the line. Its more of for the time being its a solid phone so comes June/July when the fall lineup starts pumping what else can they add besides the obvious.
Whether I buy the onex today or next month is doesn't really matter its more of a food for thought kind of statement.

Tachi91 said:
I get that there will always be something better down the line. Its more of for the time being its a solid phone so comes June/July when the fall lineup starts pumping what else can they add besides the obvious.
Whether I buy the onex today or next month is doesn't really matter its more of a food for thought kind of statement.
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Think about it. Only phones really worth waiting for is Samsung , and iPhone and the nexus. Now if you are a serious flasher then wait for nexus. That is the only phone really worth getting my friend in fall or like I said iPhone. One X will last you at.least a year min.
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Tachi91 said:
But anyways since the OneX seems to be a good rounded device when it comes to hardware what comes next? Besides better radio(4G etc) and display what is there to add besides more ram and higher core speeds?
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Removable, and more powerful battery, removable sd card, better gpu, waterproofing, thinner bezel, software buttons, better camera, wireless charging, multi-sim, decreased thickness, lighter weight, and a white color that doesn't get tainted by your jeans.
All of these are potential candidates, though they probably won't all happen at once.

Better battery
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I really want to see a new category of androids....gaming phones(yes sth like xperia play), I believe that will happen when the android games will be like those that are for psp. And that phones will have super cpu, ram , battery,bla,bla, and they will have controller!!!!!!!!
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I too am looking to get a new phone to replace my galaxy S.
are there any sites leaking info to a rumored next release of the nexus?

HTC has decided to go in the wrong direction with the One series wrt non-removable battery and no SD slot, imho, so I will not be looking to spend money with them unless they change direction.
Fortunately I am very pleased with my Sensation which has a removable battery and lots of good upgrade battery options to fill it, and some people have reported that the 64g XD works there as well, but I am less happy with TMO for which I have another 14.5 months left on my contract.
I am hopeful that I will have some better options to choose from then.

Well, maybe they'll find a way to make cheap AMOLED non-pentile HD screens. I guess there will be more phones with NFC.
Also there has to be some innovation in the battery sector. With screens getting bigger -requiring more cpu and gpu- phones will get veeery hungry.
But aside from the typical bigger-screen-faster-cpu race I hope that there will be more usability enhancements, just like the S3 is promoting. Because what's a phone worth that's blazingly fast and big but you still pull down your notification bar and click that icon to read your text?

[Q] Galaxy S3 or Rezound

I'm looking for a phone with a really good camera, pretty fast all around(smooth), and get pretty decent battery life. I wouldn't mind getting a spare battery. But days I work I'm away from a charger for 14 hours, so I need it to last more than 10 hours. And days I work I'm not constantly on it, just my 4 10 minute breaks and 30 minute lunch. I've been reading on the Galaxy s3 and it seems to be the best phone coming out right now to verizon. The rezound is also really good and takes pretty good pics. I have a 6 month old son, and I always have my phone and not a camera, so its easier to take videos and pics of him with my phone. That's why I'd like a decent camera. What would ya'll recommend? thanks.

I do agree that the S3 is one of the best devices coming out. currently i am using the samsung infuse on att, and want to upgrade to the gs3 one i am able to. I personally would get the s3 given your two choices. the s3 will be a flagship device and will be supported longer. the s3 also has microSD card expansion so you can hold more videos and photos of your baby
have you considered the droid razr maxx? it has a 3300 mAh battery{non removable unfortunately}, so battey life will be excellent and it has an 8 mp camera. its also rated number 1 on consumer reports for verizon smartphones. im not on verizon but i stay up to date on the top phones. it all depends on which manufacturer you go with.
hope this helps.

Rezound Great Camera
I have the Rezound and I can tell you that it takes the best pictures of any phone i have seen. My brother has the Razr, and my friend the Nexus, and both are beyond impressed with the quality images i get with my phone. I am in the market for a phone for my wife, and the camera is the one thing that might keep me away from the GS3. I understand it has the same camera as the S2, and if that's the case then it will be another Rezound for my wife without hesitation. I don't have a single complaint about the Rezound. Batteries could always be better, but with the leaked ICS my battery life has near doubled. As long as you don't keep screen at full brightness and stream music all day, the battery in the Rezound will last you fine. It's damn near perfect.

samsung galaxy SIII unquestionably

Still Diggin the Rezound.
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samsung galaxy SIII unquestionably
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Obviously it isn't unquestionably, or there wouldn't be a forum. I would like to hear why you think it is such a great phone. What are it's real advantages here in the US.
I like the larger battery in the S3, but with all the issues regarding the Samsung radios (Galaxy Nexus) it makes me hesitate. Also Samsung has not been known for their cameras. Add to that the fact that they used an old-school pentile screen and have a big strange hardware button, it's just doesn't scream greatness.
I'm trying to want the S3, but i keep talking myself out of it. And if they drop the price on the Rezound back to $50 or even $100, why would you pay $200 more for what is basically the same specs?

+ 1 , Rageboardr ...
Your speech is perfect and I totally agree.
They yet haven't invented the "unquestionably" phone...

I think the htc ONE X has also a very good camera !

how about rezond?
a little bit qualifying againts sIII

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how about rezond?
a little bit qualifying againts sIII
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With the Rezound i know it is a great phone. It is tried and tested. It already has a 1.5 dual core processor. Its HD screen is amazing. It has the best pixel density of any phone that I am aware of currently in production. Stupid GS3 went with a pentile matrix, a step back from the nexus. It has terrific reception, it destroys the Razr and Nexus on road trips. I almost never lost a signal from SC to PA through the mountains. The camera on the Rezound is one of the best i have seen in a phone. Again it takes way better pics than the Razr or Nexus. I am also a big fan of HTC's Sense. They have the best widgets. I have no experience with touchwiz, but i know i don't like Blur. But any launcher can fix that. The Rezound has a nice quality build, and won't slip out of hand. Not slick plastic like the S3.
Lastly the Rezound fits comfortably in the hand. It could loose a little weight around the middle, but it can be easily operated with one hand. I prefer a little girth because I am rather harsh on a phone, and the thinness of the Razr worries me. My friend with the Nexus has a son who just sat on his Razr in his back pocket and crushed it. If i think of any other highlights i will add later.

I'd get the s3,the camera is awesome.
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I'd get the s3,the camera is awesome.
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I understand that it is the same camera that was on the S2. Just has newer software, which can be downloaded via ROM I imagine. The Rezound also has dual LED flash.
Also the GS3 front camera takes a step down from its predecessor. 1.2 vs 2.0
Have you read somewhere that the camera in the S3 is awesome, or are you just assuming.

Rageboardr said:
Obviously it isn't unquestionably, or there wouldn't be a forum. I would like to hear why you think it is such a great phone. What are it's real advantages here in the US.
I like the larger battery in the S3, but with all the issues regarding the Samsung radios (Galaxy Nexus) it makes me hesitate. Also Samsung has not been known for their cameras. Add to that the fact that they used an old-school pentile screen and have a big strange hardware button, it's just doesn't scream greatness.
I'm trying to want the S3, but i keep talking myself out of it. And if they drop the price on the Rezound back to $50 or even $100, why would you pay $200 more for what is basically the same specs?
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Same specs? no....
Snapdragon S4 Krait with Adreno 225 GPU >>>>>>>>>> S3 with Adreno 220 GPU which currently struggles to push a screen with that resolution consistantly smooth
I much rather have a Super Amoled HD than a SLD that Rezound has (poor contrast imo and viewing angles), if it was SLCD2 like One X id be a different story
sense 4 > touchwiz 5 > sense 3.6 (rezound)
GS3 will have 2GB RAM and will surely get Jellybean which i highly doubt Rezound will get anything beyond ICS.
my thoughts
edit: BtW, SGS3 has a 1.9mp FFC, not 1.2

I did say basically the same specs, which means not exactly.
I have seen no problem from my S3 processor pushing my screen smoothly. Games like Shadowgun, and Dead Space play without any hiccups. Aside from a "smoother screen," what else does the better processor bring? Are they games or apps that will benifit?
I am sure the S4 is better than the S3, but both are pushing 1.5 ghz, so it sounds like a slight improvement. And with that improvement in processor, they skipped on the SAMOLED+ that was present on the Nexus. So a better processor with a weaker screen. It's a trade off to be sure.
I do wish the screen on the Rezound was brighter in the sun, but that seems like a problem for most phones. Even Samoled, though they say it is better. I still had a hard time with the Nexus in the sun.
The only real substantial advantage i see is the 2G Ram. I don't know what i need that much RAM for, but i'm sure i could find something to do with it.
I would like to see JellyBean on my phone, but I will likely root and ROM after the year warranty runs out, so i don't see that as being much of a deciding factor. It will release with ICS, which i already have.
I am only playing Devils Advocate, because like i said, I do want to want this phone. Thanks for all the input.

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I understand that it is the same camera that was on the S2. Just has newer software, which can be downloaded via ROM I imagine. The Rezound also has dual LED flash.
Also the GS3 front camera takes a step down from its predecessor. 1.2 vs 2.0
Have you read somewhere that the camera in the S3 is awesome, or are you just assuming.
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Check this out
http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/2181045/samsung-galaxy-s3-camera-hands-review
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That does sound like a fine camera. I am at least pretty sure that I will not be taking a step back from my current camera.
Now lets just hope that they figured out the issues with the radios on the Nexus, and this phone wont have a repeat of the same problems.

Rageboardr said:
That does sound like a fine camera. I am at least pretty sure that I will not be taking a step back from my current camera.
Now lets just hope that they figured out the issues with the radios on the Nexus, and this phone wont have a repeat of the same problems.
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I don't mind it,seems well built. The pentile screen is just people flaw hunting. 306 ppi HD I doubt you'll see any pixels.Do you walk around with a microscope?
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s3
Undoubtedly s3 all the way..!!!!!

Rageboardr said:
I did say basically the same specs, which means not exactly.
I have seen no problem from my S3 processor pushing my screen smoothly. Games like Shadowgun, and Dead Space play without any hiccups. Aside from a "smoother screen," what else does the better processor bring? Are they games or apps that will benifit?
I am sure the S4 is better than the S3, but both are pushing 1.5 ghz, so it sounds like a slight improvement. And with that improvement in processor, they skipped on the SAMOLED+ that was present on the Nexus. So a better processor with a weaker screen. It's a trade off to be sure.
I do wish the screen on the Rezound was brighter in the sun, but that seems like a problem for most phones. Even Samoled, though they say it is better. I still had a hard time with the Nexus in the sun.
The only real substantial advantage i see is the 2G Ram. I don't know what i need that much RAM for, but i'm sure i could find something to do with it.
I would like to see JellyBean on my phone, but I will likely root and ROM after the year warranty runs out, so i don't see that as being much of a deciding factor. It will release with ICS, which i already have.
I am only playing Devils Advocate, because like i said, I do want to want this phone. Thanks for all the input.
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Looks to me that you already have your mind made up since what im seeing here is attempts to invalidate or brush off any advantage the SGS3 has over the rezound to convince yourself that the rezound is worth getting.
If you prefer the Rezound then by all means, enjoy it to the fullest
btw: galaxy nexus has samoled hd pentile, same as the sgs3 but .01 inch smaller.

I am not trying to convince myself to buy a Rezound, I am trying to convince myself to buy a Galaxy S3.
I know the Rezound is worth getting since i already have it, and it rocks. No one will be disappointed if they decide to get it. But it is a 6-7 month old phone.
I plan to use my wife's upgrade, and bequeath my Rezound to her, because she really needs a better camera on her phone. I don't want to use her upgrade to get another Rezound because, well, then i don't get a new phone. But i have to use her upgrade before Unlimited data expires, so unless miracles happen and Verizon decides against dumping the unlimited thing, then the GS3 is the only option.
I guess i just expected better arguments from a newer flagship phone. Something defining. Something I couldn't live without, and could say, look how ridiculously awesome this is. But I will buy it and try it, and exchange it if i don't like it.
I appreciate all the input.

Rageboardr said:
I am not trying to convince myself to buy a Rezound, I am trying to convince myself to buy a Galaxy S3.
I know the Rezound is worth getting since i already have it, and it rocks. No one will be disappointed if they decide to get it. But it is a 6-7 month old phone.
I plan to use my wife's upgrade, and bequeath my Rezound to her, because she really needs a better camera on her phone. I don't want to use her upgrade to get another Rezound because, well, then i don't get a new phone. But i have to use her upgrade before Unlimited data expires, so unless miracles happen and Verizon decides against dumping the unlimited thing, then the GS3 is the only option.
I guess i just expected better arguments from a newer flagship phone. Something defining. Something I couldn't live without, and could say, look how ridiculously awesome this is. But I will buy it and try it, and exchange it if i don't like it.
I appreciate all the input.
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Good luck,I honestly think you'll love it.
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Buy New Phone: Which is best?

I'm starting a new thread because all the others I saw on this topic were 2 years old and that is a lifetime in technology world.
I accidentally forgot to take my phone out of my pocket when I went swimming. Worse it was a salt-water pool. So all the metal is corroded, no saving it. I had a Samsung Vibrant. But now looking for perhaps an upgrade.
What are some of the best models to buy? I'm not hugely into changing roms, I like to figure out one I like and stick with it. Also, I have T-mobile service.
So all I know on phone models are Samsung Galaxy S; SII, and SIII. Give me a good one please!

The new line of HTC phones, the One s and One X are pretty cool. Nice and light with amazing screens. The new HTC UI is also lovely.
the Samsung Galaxy S3 is also excellent. Quite similar in terms of weight and size to the HTC phones mentioned.
These are probably the best Android phones on the market at the moment. Theres also the iPhone 4S which is a great phone too, but with smaller screen size than most new Android devices.
Hope this helps

Sony has a flagship(high-end) phone called Xperia S. Hope that contributes to your choices.
Also, I have a tip for you, You should read online reviews on the phones that you are interested in, and, also read the specs carefully,You wont wanna end up with a 600MHz processor or a 2.x" screen, will you?

Best phone for me
I think the new Samsung Galaxy S III is the best phone yet because of its new features. Simply designed for human... hehe... Take a look at this website to know more: http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxys3/

jelly bean
for me if i want to buy a new phone right now i'll buy galaxy nexus. because it gets the most up-to-date android right now that is jelly bean(4.1).
The UI is not so different from the ics but many updates in the software such project butter and google now. you can google it and you'll be suprise.
The project butter make it buttery smooth, it can even match up with quad-core galaxy s3
So for me.Nexus is the one

Buy Galaxy SII and install S3 touchwizz.

If wifi calling were essential, the s2 or s3. Between those two, Itll be down to your budget.
If Wi-Fi calling is less of an importance to you, I'd say +1 on the galaxy nexus all the way.
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andrzej_d said:
Buy Galaxy SII and install S3 touchwizz.
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Please elaborate. Why the SII when the SIII is available?
Which brings me to my next question. Does anyone have both an SGSIII and an HTC One X? I'd really like some feedback for those two.
I'm so impressed with the quality materials and the feel of the One X in hand. While I only tried it in the AT&T store, I really like the build quality, the solid feel, and the UI didn't look too bad either. But I must admit, I'm really a big fan of SWYPE, as offered on the Samsung phones.

S3
PuritanHope said:
I'm starting a new thread because all the others I saw on this topic were 2 years old and that is a lifetime in technology world.
I accidentally forgot to take my phone out of my pocket when I went swimming. Worse it was a salt-water pool. So all the metal is corroded, no saving it. I had a Samsung Vibrant. But now looking for perhaps an upgrade.
What are some of the best models to buy? I'm not hugely into changing roms, I like to figure out one I like and stick with it. Also, I have T-mobile service.
So all I know on phone models are Samsung Galaxy S; SII, and SIII. Give me a good one please!
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I would say the Samsung Galaxy S3 would be the best, but as far as I know it have still some software bugs which need to be improved. If you dont want to pay too much money for a phone, you can choose the Samsung Galaxy S2. I have this one and i am happy with it. it is fast enough for these things I do (use internet, watch some movies while in a bus or subway, listen to musik, learning and play sometimes a game).
The S3 have more features and is faster and so on, but its your choice.
Depend on money, on things you want to do with it and maybe a bit how much you want to show that you have the best

spent a weekend with 2 samsung s3's.on the monday bought the onex international.phone is better built,sense is very nice,the s3 is a verygood phone but for me the onex just feels better in so many little ways.the screen is a joy, the phone fits the hand,zero faults, happy bunny me

Boy S3 or S2 if you want to spend less money.

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spent a weekend with 2 samsung s3's.on the monday bought the onex international.phone is better built,sense is very nice,the s3 is a verygood phone but for me the onex just feels better in so many little ways.the screen is a joy, the phone fits the hand,zero faults, happy bunny me
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Laggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg thats what the s3 lacks the one x has plenty

I have a One X and just picked up an S3 for my buddy and every time I play with an S3, I like it less and less. From the horribly plastic build, to its ugly design, to the crappy bluish pentile screen. As far as I'm concerned the only benefits it provides over the One X are the SD slot and extra RAM. The One X is superior in every other regard.
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I have a One X and just picked up an S3 for my buddy and every time I play with an S3, I like it less and less. From the horribly plastic build, to its ugly design, to the crappy bluish pentile screen. As far as I'm concerned the only benefits it provides over the One X are the SD slot and extra RAM. The One X is superior in every other regard.
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oh yeah every other thing then tell me why the s3 ass rapes the one x in performance and battery? also amoled is better deeper colors if i want natural colors i look out of a window the s3 build quality is good the stuff its made out of is pollycarb the one x has TONS of issues from yellow spots on the screen to the coating on the plastic rubbing of the camera is basically the same till you go to low light conditions then the one x shines the screen on the s3 is Superior to the one x its the most responsive screen on a phone the colors is what you expect from a shining company the build quality is GREAT what its made out of and what the gloss feels like not so good the one x only shines in camera and those people that dont have a window now kindly go scream your rubbish somewhere else.

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oh yeah every other thing then tell me why the s3 ass rapes the one x in performance and battery? also amoled is better deeper colors if i want natural colors i look out of a window the s3 build quality is good the stuff its made out of is pollycarb the one x has TONS of issues from yellow spots on the screen to the coating on the plastic rubbing of the camera is basically the same till you go to low light conditions then the one x shines the screen on the s3 is Superior to the one x its the most responsive screen on a phone the colors is what you expect from a shining company the build quality is GREAT what its made out of and what the gloss feels like not so good the one x only shines in camera and those people that dont have a window now kindly go scream your rubbish somewhere else.
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I'm speaking specifically of the S4 version of the One X which does not have any of the problems that the Tegra version has. In no way does the S3 rape the S4 One X in terms of performance or battery. They have the same SOC so they are completely comperable. Battery life in the S4 One X is ridiculous. I can get 2 days and over 6 hours screen on time. That's unheard of with android.
Sure the S3 is polycarbonate but it FEELS like a cheap plastic POS. And blue or white? Where's the black? They look like shiny plastic toys and they are fingerprint magnets. The One X feels solid and looks soo much nicer. I really think the build on the S3 belies the actual power of the phone. And sorry man, I'm glad you like the SAMOLED screen but it just can't touch the SLCD2 of the One X. Every reviewer on the internet thinks that the One X's screen is superior because well, it is. The S3's screen is over saturated, not bright at all, doesn't have the viewing angles that the One X has and the pentile is terribly noticeable. If it was a SAMOLED + it would be a different story but it's not. Pentile is a hideous technology and really destroys what would be a high quality screen. Also, at least on the blue model, the glass is tinted blue so the SCREEN is tinted blue. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. Even the deepest black on the S3 has a noticeably blue tint to it. I saw it, the rep at the AT&T store saw it, and my buddy who owns one sees it and hates it. The only reason he got the S3 over the One X was because he needed the SD slot.
The S3 is a great device, no doubt, but when you take everything into acount, I really feel the S4 One X is a much better phone. I'm glad you like your S3, but to me it's akin to a family having a retarded child. They may love it to death, but it doesn't change the fact that it's retarded.
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Coming from a Mytouch 3G, then Mytouch 4g, I had enjoyed the HTC experience, then I switched to the Samsung Galaxy S2, it completely blew my mind from the HTC line! now, I know the newer HTC devices have come back and are amazing phones, however, I now have the Galaxy S3 and still couldn't be happier, it is an amazing device and I am happy I made the choice to switch over from HTC to Samsung.
I have done a full review which you can check out on my blog (linked in acct info)
hope this helps

Samsung Galaxy S3 .... If you like big phones.. :silly:

I know how you feel. Any way if your getting a new phone you should get the galaxy s3. But if you want a galaxy s type phone then you should get the galaxy ace 2. It has an 800mhz prosesor dual core so it works like a 1 ghz prosesor but since the second core can be turned off when not needed the battery life on the galaxy ace 2 is increased greatly.
But by all means if you want a 4 core phone full of pow then you should get the galaxy 3. It has s voice. Also has the eye detection. So if you look away from the screen it will turn off. The s3 has a memory card slot. Lots of four core phones don't have that. It will be able to charge wirelessly in a couple of months.
So it really does come down to if you want to spend a hefty amount on a phone that you will probably keep for a few years.
Good luck on your new phone hunt. Hope I helped
PS sorry for the spelling. Btw I'm 13
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I'm speaking specifically of the S4 version of the One X which does not have any of the problems that the Tegra version has. In no way does the S3 rape the S4 One X in terms of performance or battery. They have the same SOC so they are completely comperable. Battery life in the S4 One X is ridiculous. I can get 2 days and over 6 hours screen on time. That's unheard of with android.
Sure the S3 is polycarbonate but it FEELS like a cheap plastic POS. And blue or white? Where's the black? They look like shiny plastic toys and they are fingerprint magnets. The One X feels solid and looks soo much nicer. I really think the build on the S3 belies the actual power of the phone. And sorry man, I'm glad you like the SAMOLED screen but it just can't touch the SLCD2 of the One X. Every reviewer on the internet thinks that the One X's screen is superior because well, it is. The S3's screen is over saturated, not bright at all, doesn't have the viewing angles that the One X has and the pentile is terribly noticeable. If it was a SAMOLED + it would be a different story but it's not. Pentile is a hideous technology and really destroys what would be a high quality screen. Also, at least on the blue model, the glass is tinted blue so the SCREEN is tinted blue. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. Even the deepest black on the S3 has a noticeably blue tint to it. I saw it, the rep at the AT&T store saw it, and my buddy who owns one sees it and hates it. The only reason he got the S3 over the One X was because he needed the SD slot.
The S3 is a great device, no doubt, but when you take everything into acount, I really feel the S4 One X is a much better phone. I'm glad you like your S3, but to me it's akin to a family having a retarded child. They may love it to death, but it doesn't change the fact that it's retarded.
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