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Just posting my experiences with my Wizard, but before that, my uasge pattern is as follows,
Outlook Push Email:- about 150 - 180 messages a day
Windows Live:- about 20 a day
Text Messages:- about 80 a day
Phone usage:- apporx 2 hrs talktime
No other net usage
Battery lasts for about 5 - 6 hrs
Memory lasts for 8-10 hrs!!
Now for my experiences,
1) Every time I get receive or send a message, I lose program memory. any message of the 3 types mentioned above. I've seen this in all the ROMs that i've used and its been quite a few now.
2) Memory drain is exponentially quicker if I have my SD card in the phone. I've started removing it and keeping it seperately
3) Some memory can be recovered through FreeUp Ram (SKTools) or Oxios Memory, but the amount available keeps on reducing with time
The link between tmail and memory drain is the most obvious to me 'cos i can actually see it happening. Every time I get a message, or send one, the program memory available after i complete the task, including closing tmail, is less than what was available before. I use BatteryStatus to keep track, but have seen the same thing without BS as well, using SPB Pocket Plus.
I have to reset every day, towards the end of the day, or the phone starts behaving like a dog. Its like "press a button, wait a weekend, and then move forward... :-/
I'm probably just looking for some input on whether this is a problem that others face as well, and if yes, what solutions / work arounds exist to tackle it.
Thanks
--sry wrong idea--
just thought about sd power management trick ,but if tmail is using card, its nonsense idea to try..
memory leak isn't clear for me, though..
could you please tell me why?
What rom/radio are you running? Your sig says Orwell and 2.69, are those still accurate?
yes, that accurate. IPL & SPL are 3.08... also, tmail isnt using SD... i dont keep the card in the phone anymore...
try a newer rom and try lowering your radio to 2.19. I would try the rom first and then the radio.
I had terrible battery life on orwells, but after upgrading to a newer WM6 rom the battery life became much better.
If the rom doesn't help enough, try changing your radio.
Interesting...
Yes, if you can, check to see if a rom change helps with your memory leak. You use your phone a lot more than I do, but I have noticed a small memory leak in every rom I've tried. Maybe you've put your finger on it!
Anyway, you could also install BatteryStatus and report the idle cpu usage. Your custom extended rom could be contributing to your poor battery life.
Regards,
idle CPU usage is between 3 - 7%... battery drain at idle goes down to 70mA... thats without windows live, but with outlook push mail... also have a problem with battery status as it doesnt update dynamically... just stays with one reading till another program or task is launched or it decides that its time to refresh... refresh time is 5 secs, but it seldom is... cpu usage gets updated every 5 secs though... i'm gonna try moving to the Tmobile 2.26 and then to Faria's kitchen rom... will be done in a couple of hrs, but will need a working day to test the results...
i'm still more concerned about the memory, though... battery, i can handle... have an extended battery on the way which is rated for 2400 mA... should last a day, im hoping... but i do really dislike restarting the phone every day...
thanks a million for the interest... im sure there's light at the end of this tunnel as well, now that there are a few members interested...
cheers...
so when my phone first starts up and tf3d and gyrator 2 get running i am at about 40 pct usage according to the htc task manager in the top right corner
after a few hours even if i close everything out except tf3d im still at about 53 to 55 pct. is this normal?
lbhocky19 said:
so when my phone first starts up and tf3d and gyrator 2 get running i am at about 40 pct usage according to the htc task manager in the top right corner
after a few hours even if i close everything out except tf3d im still at about 53 to 55 pct. is this normal?
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yeah thats pretty normal. used to have the samething on my kaiser. some roms are better at protecting memory leakage than others.
im using romeos
anyone else with results from same rom or others?
Bad Problem with the Battery
i have the TP and the bettery have a big problem it's ended in about 5 hours with no use.
how can i fix it?
is there any program to increase the use or tweak the settings?
from 5 hours no
change the battery
You have either some app running which consumes a huge amount of power (really huge! Even if you use TP as video player with the screen configured to full brightness TPs battery lasts for at least four to five hours). Or your device has got a faulty battery (which would probably be more likely).
Are you by any chance using Wayfinder Navigator gps-software? I found (the hard way) that this software doesn't close the GPS-unit in the phone automatically when you exit the application. Even after a soft-reset the problem persists. This will drain the battery in pretty much 5 hours. The solution is to manually close the GPS-connection in the WF Navigator program settings every time you exit the app (and hope for a fix ASAP). I've already reported this to Wayfinder, and they're working on it.
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Are you by any chance using Wayfinder Navigator gps-software? I found (the hard way) that this software doesn't close the GPS-unit in the phone automatically when you exit the application. Even after a soft-reset the problem persists. This will drain the battery in pretty much 5 hours. The solution is to manually close the GPS-connection in the WF Navigator program settings every time you exit the app (and hope for a fix ASAP). I've already reported this to Wayfinder, and they're working on it.
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I was using a GPS related app the other day and the same thing happened to me. Try and find out what hasn't shut down properly...
10X for all
melcul-i think i will send an email to HTC about that
DeepThought-i checked if there is any programs that running but nothing is running acording to X-buttom 35% memory in use.
aBE-One- i am not using that app.just using QuickGPS and Nav N GO IGO8 and they are close.
l1234 said:
10X for all
melcul-i think i will send an email to HTC about that
DeepThought-i checked if there is any programs that running but nothing is running acording to X-buttom 35% memory in use.
aBE-One- i am not using that app.just using QuickGPS and Nav N GO IGO8 and they are close.
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what aBE-One is saying is that on his phone he had a similar problem, the software was closed but the GPS command remained active thus draining his battery, so your IGO8 might be shut down as software but there is a chance that the GPS hardware is still running in the background for no reason. go into your com manager and turn off GPS and that should resolve the issue
l1234 said:
i have the TP and the bettery have a big problem it's ended in about 5 hours with no use.
how can i fix it?
is there any program to increase the use or tweak the settings?
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Exactly the same happened to me, after a full charge it took only 5 hours to an almost complete discharge.
I bought TP 1 week ago and it came with radio 1.02.25.17 with no battery issues at all but with the GPS issue -not finding sats-. After upgrading to 1.02.25.28 radio ROM, the GPS now works ok with TomTom, GPS test etc, but the battery now drains dramatically even in standby with no software running and all radios off except phone.
Is possible that the GPS radio stays on even after closing GPS software? In that case, is there any way to manually switch off the GPS module?. In TTN there's no a button to do this.
Mine too..
But i've observed this drain even before upgrating to radio 1.02.25.28
In 40 minutes from 78% to 69% (9%), in stand-by mode (short press power) without any running application!
And I've done 3 or 4 full discharge-full recharge cicles...
LE: No active moderator here? There are plenty of battery problem topics.. why not merge them? It's hard to chose in which one to post... Also, that's not the only case. See GPS related bugs, opera, etc. Too many duplicate topics.
Ok, more info:
I've drained the battery completely till the device turned off then I've left the phone on charging overnight (device turned off).
After about 9-10 hours I've unpluged and turned on the device. Used for 1 hour and 25 minutes in total (about 1 hour for browsing - not downloading, so data transfer was not continously - and the rest for music). With "Auto adjust backlight". The battery level gone from 100% down to 68%, so 32% battery drain in less than a hour and a half!!!
Now, after 4 minutes (device was in standby - eg: short power button press), I wanted to check something and the battery metter was on 66%... so 2% in standy/idle mode in just 4 minutes?!
@l1234 any updates?
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Ok, more info:
I've drained the battery completely till the device turned off then I've left the phone on charging overnight (device turned off).
After about 9-10 hours I've unpluged and turned on the device. Used for 1 hour and 25 minutes in total (about 1 hour for browsing - not downloading, so data transfer was not continously - and the rest for music). With "Auto adjust backlight". The battery level gone from 100% down to 68%, so 32% battery drain in less than a hour and a half!!!
Now, after 4 minutes (device was in standby - eg: short power button press), I wanted to check something and the battery metter was on 66%... so 2% in standy/idle mode in just 4 minutes?!
@l1234 any updates?
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That all sounds correct. I can be typing emails/sms with WiFi and phone on (not actually doing anything), drains about 1% per minute.
I read the other day that the percentage indicator is faulty. Some people have reported the battery draining down to 10% in a very short time, but then the meter will stay at 10% for hours before going down to 9%, etc. Has anyone else noticed this? If not, look for it and see if it happens to you. Also, open the power meter in the settings options and verify that it shows the same battery level. I've had that happen to me already where it would say 50% in the title bar but the power options still show 3/4 of the meter!
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I read the other day that the percentage indicator is faulty. Some people have reported the battery draining down to 10% in a very short time, but then the meter will stay at 10% for hours before going down to 9%, etc. Has anyone else noticed this? If not, look for it and see if it happens to you. Also, open the power meter in the settings options and verify that it shows the same battery level. I've had that happen to me already where it would say 50% in the title bar but the power options still show 3/4 of the meter!
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I have noticed that the battery percentage indicator does this. All in all, my device has better battery life after flashing a custom ROM, keeping screen brightness under half and leaving off bluetooth or wifi if possible. my battery will stay at 100% for hours, but if i soft reset, it drops 10%. other times it will drop right away but stay there. It really does stay at 10% or so though for ages before it drops further.
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That all sounds correct. I can be typing emails/sms with WiFi and phone on (not actually doing anything), drains about 1% per minute.
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I was brosing via 3G/HSPDA connection. No WiFi/BT on.
Now, it seems that the drain in standby time is OK (haven't done something special, same processes opened.. maybe just now the battery can be used at its full performance, after some charges/discharges) - BUT when using the device the battery drains quite quickly..
I give you an example.
Battery was 100%. Browsing the internet with IE & Opera for 1 hour. Battery meter was on 75%. So 25% in one hour... tooo much... The display backlight is set to "Auto adjust".
Again, I'm not using Wifi/BT, push e-mail, etc. Just normal browsing (without downloads) with a 3G/HSPDA connection.
I've had my Fuze about a week and I've been testing out many of the available ROMs. I've noticed disturbing trend and want to know if anyone else is seeing this problem, and if so, how can we fix it? It seems like anytime I install a Raphael based ROM, I start to lose battery power at a fast rate - about 10%/hour, maybe even faster. With a cooked ROM based off the ATT Fuze code base, I do not have this problem. I get this even when I install the keyboard fix, etc. and I am doing a hard reset after install to no avail. Any help, input, thoughts or shared experiences welcome.
Andrew
I am using PROven's latest 1.4 rom and the battery is amazing!!! I loaded it last night, charged it up around 9pm and at 5pm today I am still at 70%!!!
I've noticed this as well. I first go suspicious when after a long flight in airplane mode the battery drained significantly.
No I am in all day meetings this week so I am trying several combination to see what sucks juice and what does not by keeping the radio out of the equation.
So far it seems that RomeOS is a battery suck while NATF is not. This is with the device doing nothing but sitting there with no radio activity.
I've notice that the stock .32 radio on the fuze is the culprit (at least on MY fuze). After I downgraded to the .28 radio the battery life has easily doubled!
@NRGZ28
Which .28 radio do you mean?
1.02.25.28 - Extract Official Shipped Orange ROM ESN 1.90.75.3??
I'm using ROMeOS with 1.02.25.28 radio and I have pretty good battery life on the Fuze. I've also used some other ROMs here and no issues either in regards to battery. Is your data connection on constantly or is it configured to disconnect after X # of mins?
Hey guys.
First of all thanks for all those who explained/helped me with ur threads to install android on my htc hd2, its fantastic!
My problem... Well i installed 'CLEANDROID' without any problems and am quite happy with it
Theres just one thing i cannot fix yet - My extended HD2 - Battery will never be shown with the correct battery charge condition. I found the app 'battery monitor', that shows the percentage calculated on the base of the current voltage. If the normal aku-viewer shows for example 11 % aku is left, i infact got about 63 % left (at least this is what 'battery monitor says).
Is there any possibility to make my HD2 not to show messages like "LOW BATTERY" and stuff with an app, or a simple setting that i missed so far?
Or even better, is there a possibility to make my hd2 somehow "understand" that theres an extended aku in its back?!
Im greatly thanksful for anyone that might help me !
regards, Ipanema
Same problem. My battery % steps at 15% for several hours before going down with my extended battery
Im not a android fanboi, but as far as i understand it, most kernals dont support extended batterys so not gonna happen.
Also, a quick google found this, amongst other results : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853973 .......remember google is your friend
Well after 2 days of testing the xxkb3 battery usage which I have been talking about as great is a false perception, whats happening is that the battery indicator is not actually updating the real status thus showing good battery life.
I reported earlier that in ideal mode 12hrs night time its only consuming 2% that's not true, whats happening is that the moment i start using the handset in morning just after few mins I noticed a sharp drop in battery status I got confused the 1st day of test so did it another day & noticed the same behavior, hence installed battery Notifier (big text) which shows directly in the status bar & that showed a mismatch since this morning.
Here are few screenshot at 80% actual battery the icon is still showing me full charge to make me believe that its a good battery......now is it a bug in xxkb3 which should be reported or any way to correct it? DDKB1 which i was using earlier never had this problem.
The Green text at left is the battery notifier.
Dude i dont think its a problem.
The indicator changes according to the % of battery remaining. The default status indicator will have only a total of 4 to 5 stages of indication.
above 80 - state 1
above 60 - state 2
above 40 - state 3
above 20 - state 4
less than 10 - state 5.
For example
if % is above 80 , then the indicator will show full.
if it is in between 60 to 79 then it will show some changes.
Im using battery status widget to monitor battery as it gives more info on the battery status.
if % is above 80 , then the indicator will show full.
if it is in between 60 to 79 then it will show some changes.
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yes that is what happening so you confirm that its normal. I will test it for few more days, do we have any app which can graphically plot the battery stats?
Yes, this is normal, you can check this battery indicator out it's pretty detailed - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8639993
Or, you can replace the default indicator - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724778
Thanks a lot
I have been hunting for that app in the market but could not find any such app there.
sgsI9003 said:
yes that is what happening so you confirm that its normal. I will test it for few more days, do we have any app which can graphically plot the battery stats?
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Try JuicePlotter from the market!
btw, dont these battery indicator apps themselves drain battery quite too much?
bala_gamer said:
Dude i dont think its a problem.
The indicator changes according to the % of battery remaining. The default status indicator will have only a total of 4 to 5 stages of indication.
above 80 - state 1
above 60 - state 2
above 40 - state 3
above 20 - state 4
less than 10 - state 5.
For example
if % is above 80 , then the indicator will show full.
if it is in between 60 to 79 then it will show some changes.
Im using battery status widget to monitor battery as it gives more info on the battery status.
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......and it is the same in KB1 as well. It is the normal behavior. @sgsI9003 Now the point is why the battery indicator (the stock blue one) suddenly drops when u start using it.
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......and it is the same in KB1 as well. It is the normal behavior. @sgsI9003 Now the point is why the battery indicator (the stock blue one) suddenly drops when u start using it.
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My guess is that at till 80 it wont show any drain & & then when I use for 30 mins assume it consumed another 10% so suddenly I see a drop of 30% bcoz the 1st 20% was not even showing at that time & I use to wonder how come 30 mins using consumes so much battery?
Now all is sorted out with these numerical indicators. After 3 days of testing I can say that xxkb3 has better battery life on ideal /standby if you use the phone just for calling it can last easily 48+ hrs, with web surfing, mail access & other multimedia usage it would last 12-24hours only depending upon how much its being used.
Another testing now reveled that each night I have different amount of drain which I assume that its due to radio signal interaction. Best practice is to switch off or put to airplane mode to conserve battery or have an app which can follow a time schedule to do this automatically.
Dude! why don't u try battery solo widget (free version from the market). It looks awesome & consumes around 2.9mb of ram with negligible cpu. so hardly any effect on the battery life.
For battery solo widget I have always had to go back to home screen to look the status but with battery Notifier (big text) I can see it always in real time on the notification bar.