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PHM Traylaunch Sapping my Battery?!?!?!

I noticed that after I installed PHM traylaunch on my prophet my battery drains much faster. I have several programs and tweaks installed, but used to get through the entire day with at about 75% left...now it's down to 50% by the end of the day. Is it possible for the tiny little program to somehow be sapping the battery? That is the only other thing that I have installed since then that I can think would cause the change. Very strange!

Have not noticed that with my wizard - but can try it with and without - will let you know.

mine tray launch sucks up the power very fast also on my prophet..
any one knows why??

No real change on my wizard with traylaunch activated or not. I guess there is a software or hardware clash in the prophet so causing the battery drain. Might be worth hard reseting the prophet and adding one piece of software at a time to find the culprit. Peope have reported thet the Spb today plugins can be battery suckers!
btw U broke the forum rules and posted 3 times on the same issue and once in howard forum - slap wrists..

Don't forget that if you want to make sure, you should get a battery graphing utility to check the actual drain. There's two that work very well:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=950 - Battery Monitor
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=10532 - Pocket Battery Analyzer
Both have demos that will basically run for a maximum of 30 minutes; more than enough to do a quick test to see whether an application running or not is causing significant additional drain.

Battery and processor

Hi,
i would like to know if it's normal that my battery goes to 100 % at the beginning of the day to 68% at the end. (i'm not using it mutch !!)
besides when i switch on my htc my processor is using 38% et then after using a prog it goes to 41% and stay at 41% after ending all progs i used.
if there is a prog who can optimize using processor it will be great (i know i'm asking a lote).
(by the way thank's a lot for the forum !!)

A power drain like that is unusual. I get to about 80% by 6pm just from making a couple of short calls and checking the forums on my lunch using 3g which I think is acceptable.
Generally your battery will run down faster if you have programs running in the back ground or you have other radios on (bluetooth, wifi, gps) etc.
Wifi will run your battery right down if left on.
Also turn down your brightness on the screen as that is a battery drain when its on and also adjust your power settings to turn off the scree faster when you are not using it. Most of these can be found in your start > Settings.
A friend of mine gave me a tip that when you flash your phone to a new radio you should do it with 100% battery as it helps improve the battery life. Not sure whether thats true or not but it seemed to work for me, of course it could have just been a better radio!
Hope that helps.

jediL said:
besides when i switch on my htc my processor is using 38% et then after using a prog it goes to 41% and stay at 41% after ending all progs i used.
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Is it processor usage or used memory? Processor is the thing that does different calculations and needs more energy when being used more intensively (at least that's what I think). Memory is just a container of information ("0's and 1's") and energy is needed for maintenance of all 100% of memory, so imho it shouldn't change much if 38% are used or 41% (and again - that's just what I think about memory usage; I have no scientific proof for that ).
Btw, question from me - does strength and/or type of signal/network (with "type" I mean all those GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA networks) affect power usage in any way?

i hanged where i worked a few weeks ago and now I find I get 5 days from my battery, I only got 3 1/2 before. I have noticed that with my old job I never had better then 2 bars of service. this must prove that signal strength has something to do with battery life

Ofcourse. when you have better reception ur phone has to use less powerto send his signal and thus uses less energie

is it possible if u use a memory card, that the phone use the RAM not a memory (for files) but as a real RAM (like on pc) ?
Is there any lighter theme than the original one which can make the processor running slower ?

if you want the best battery life turn off htc home so you just have a blank home screen!!!
hold on I have a great idea, I will sit down this weekend and make a text only interface for my cruise. that would give some awesome battey life. I suppose I might as well buy an old nokia 2010 and save my time LOL.
Battery life depends on some many things its hard to get the phone to last the same lenght of time each day for me let alone everybody.

ook ....., thx for your help.

Do you have Slide 2 Unlock version 1.21 installed? That drains battery very fast. It has a bad "iLock2.exe". It's better to download the latest version of S2U2.

Btw, what about different "minimized" applications? With "minimized" I mean those that are left opened in background for using them later (e.g., paused music player, opened pdf, opened contacts/tasks/scheduler etc). On PC, such applications should not consume any resources (expect RAM, of course ;D) as there's no persistant interaction between application and user/data, so it would consume more power to open/close application and read/write data. What about such apps on windows mobile devices? Is it better to close/open applications so that they run only when they are being used? Or is it better to leave them in background while they aren't used? This question is about apps that are used on regular basis, i.e., like 20+ times a day...

Music players tend to keep the device powered up while the player is loaded and playing. You may have noticed the device keeps playing the music while the device seems off in many of the players. In fact, only the screen is off in this case.
There is a chance your music player keeps the device on when paused as well, wasting a lot of energy for nothing.

Hi,
I had the same problem, the culprit was btio.
btio was working fine on my qtek 9100, but on my cruise, this software empty the battery in about 24h
Regards
Pat

CPU usage is at 47%

I'm not sure if this is normal, so I thought I would ask some of the pros here at xda. When I soft reset my Fuze it generally starts out at about 37%. active sync kicks on, which by the way I've been trying to find how to keep this from coming on automatically, but no luck. This puts it at about 40%. Once I use something like sky fire, and I'm at 53%. This wouldn't bother me ,but it's at 50% after I've closed the program, and it stays there, draining my battery. is this normal? any suggestions, if it's not?
Oh ya, I forgot to mention.
Running NATF's v2.3 ROM
Stock Radio
don't know if this matter but, Fuzeberry v3.0 w/ L.S. carbon dialer skin, and Icontact contacts.

Yes when I had Touchflo enabled my memory usage was exactly as yours.
You can prevent activesync from opening up at startup by going to Settings>Personal>Phone>Timezone>uncheck Automatic change timezone and clock

behrouz said:
Yes when I had Touchflo enabled my memory usage was exactly as yours.
You can prevent activesync from opening up at startup by going to Settings>Personal>Phone>Timezone>uncheck Automatic change timezone and clock
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nah that fix doesnt work
trust me ive tried about 6 different things nothing stops it

*posted message in the wrong board >.<

I looked right at my fuze when i read your post. I'm at 47% with mail and Windows Live messenger open. I wouldnt be that worried about your memory usage.

Im usually Hovering at 45% to 50% with nothing running and with TouchFlo Enabled... I figure this is normal but i wish i could lower it

cool. I just wasn't sure if that was normal or not. figured I'd get some user's feedback. thanks all. As far as the active sync I guess I'll give that a shot. but i guess it only uses like 1% of the CPU any way so whatever.

I believe you are referring to Memory Usage and not CPU usage. If you CPU is constantly at 47% then you should be concerned. If its just your memory I wouldn't worry too much. When I soft reset Im at 30% usage with TF3D and that creeps up to 40%. I can usually keep it at about 40% using MemMaid and Task Managers.
Keep in mind every menu you open cache's the icons and wastes memory. So if you go into the settings menu and then open you programs folder along with subfolders. Everytime you do this the icons have to load into memory and will stay there. Also some programs don't close completely and stay running as a process. I would recommend getting a task manager that can kill processes. FDCSoft Task Manager is free and works perfect.

yeah after a reset with tf3d im usually at 36 or so
after running stuff then using memaid to clean im back at 40

i have a 32 mb pagepool, and with no tf3d im at 36% 118/184 then with tf3d im at 40-43% depending on apps, and i never go above 48% when im playing a game with tf3d on

So TouchFlo takes up decent space but not crazy space

considering the amount of ram the raphael has the amount of ram TF3D takes up is very insignificant. As for CPU usage.....once its already fully loaded into ram it shouldn't use very much if any cpu at all.

TP2 and Imagio Battery Useage

Okay, I have an Imagio (please don't judge me ) and like many of you TP2 owners, the only real complaint I have about the phone is the battery life.
For me, I rely heavily on the device as a phone first (no big surprise, right?), email second, and then text and internet. Based on how I use my phone, I think the biggest contributor to my quick battery drain is the fact I have to leave my data connection 'on' to auto send/receive email.
I'm interested to know if there's a tweak or something out there that would allow me to leave my data 'off', automatically turn it 'on' to send/receive email at my specified interval, and then turn it 'off' again once completed. I know I could do that manually but was curious if there's something out there that could run in the background.
Also, thinking about it, has anyone looked into changing the weather tab uppdate time? I'm also wondering if the weather sync feature is sucking battery power?

Ok, my TP2 with Telus I have on data all the time, with push email (so more frequently goes active) and have no problems at all with battery usage. I can go several days between charges, but don't because I plug my phone in every night anyway.
How much talk time do you have on the phone on an average day? How many emails do you recieve? Is it exchange based on POP/IMAP?
You can easily set up the email sync itself to be manual, i.e. open your email app and click on send/recv - this way it won't hop on itself to grab emails all the time which will help with your battery life, but not really by much.
Similarly just set the weather application not to update automatically.
Keep in mind that a single phone call (on average) lasts about 3 minutes, a single data session lasts only a few seconds.
But even if you still want it to send/recv at a specified interval then when the connection is dormant (i.e. in between scheduled send/recv) it's not really taking any more power than if it was "offline" - this is just a state that both ends know, not an always-active transmit/receive when there is no actual data.
If you really need more battery life then just wait a few seconds when you check your email or the weather for it to go online and grab the data on demand.

Thanks for the reply Telek. Since I've had the phone, my talk time per day has been pretty low, relatively speaking. I seem to notice the drain after the phone's been sitting idle. I charge daily but if I didn't, I'm guessing I wouldn't come near several days on a single one.
I do get poor reception while I'm in my house and I'm thinking that might have something to do with it. What you wrote about the data connection while inactive makes a lot of sense - I should probably be looking elsewhere.
Also, my phone is set to CDMA only in case any viewers are thinking of asking the question.

Well poorer reception will hurt battery life, but only while the phone is active. CDMA signals all have to reach the tower at the same strength (IIRC) so if a phone has poorer reception it will have to up it's broadcast power.
How many emails are you getting daily? Is it feasible to just go to "on demand" and manually do a send/recv to see if that helps your battery life?
It's possible that the phone isn't going into sleep mode, or times out at a much longer interval than normal. Perhaps try going into the power management page and shrinking the timeouts?
Not sure what else to suggest - maybe you just have a bad battery?

I am in the same boat here. Although I use pop and don't get that much email. I use it as a phone, text, then data. Just through a days use, sometimes not making a phone call at all my battery will be near death. I HAVE to charge it daily. I have a car charger, charger at work, and 2 chargers at home so I always can charge so it isn't that big of a deal for me. My signal strength is normally above 70% through my house and work.
I am ready to try out a new rom to see if that makes a difference.
PS not trying to thread steal but throwing out some info that might help.

I have to charge my TP2 like 3 times a day. Between Twitter, email, and reading on the net it goes pretty fast.

My battery life isnt too good either...I have email set to check every 2 hours. If i browse the net for about 15 minutes I lose a notch in battery life. I have to charge every night too!!
I got the 2100 extended battery in the mail today, im going to try it out and see how it does...if it's not a big improvement then im sending it back...the extended battery cover is ugly and slightly bulky so I dont like that to well...

Has anyone fooled around with the power management settings in ATC? If so, any notable changes worht exploring?

Well for my usage on a Sprint Touch Pro 2, I get good battery life. I make maybe 10 calls a day but each call is less than 2 minutes.
I surf the web maybe an hour a day and send + receive maybe 75-100 texts a day. I dont check my email to often.
Maybe 3 times a day I press Send/Receive but after I finish my stuff, I go to Communications and turn off my Data Connection.
At the end of the day I have about 60%. Although I have my backlight set at 30%. Others like it halfway and others fully set.
30% is ok for me indoors but once outside I turn it up to 80% if I really need too but then set it back to 30% once indoors.

Some solutions to Imagio battery drain
My 1st Imagio had no problem with battery, but the "end" key broke so I had a replacement sent. The replacement had nicks on screen and major battery drain, with overnight charge, by 3:00pm I had 5% left. So I sent for 2nd replacement. Same problem with the battery, fully drained by midday. Frustrated, I went to Verizon and requested replacement battery. All seemed well at first. Then, the new battery began to drain. I started eliminating programs running and now, at 10:00pm, I still have 72%, I talked, texted, sent pic mssg, got email, updated weather...etc. This is what I changed.
I turned the phone to CDMA only.
I changed input back to default HTC qwerty (I had sip change to swype)
I set email to check once a day, but I hit send/receive periodically
I set weather to check once a day.
Sorry, but I also uninstalled "codyppc performance booster"
I reinabled Auto Divice lock. (this seemed to help save battery by locking)
I am running spb mobile shell 3.5 and WM 6.5 interface. Whenever I run the HTC Touchflo3D it seems to drain more battery, along with suck up memory.
I check running applications often, reset a couple times a day. I am having an issue with my spb time alarm going off in the morning though. I will try something tonight to eliminate that as the culprit. Overall, I think anything set to run regularly will drain the battery. With these fixes, now I LOVE THIS PHONE. I have all my programs on it, lots of program and storage memory left, (more than I had out of the box) tweaked just the way I like. Hope this helps someone.

Please don't forget Clean Ram(search xda) , helped me alot.

Battery Drain in HTC touch pro after flashing with Energy ROM

HI Friends,
Can anyone suggest what needs to be done as my HTC touch pro is unable to give atleast 1 day battery backup after flashing with Energy ROM.
Can listen to music nor brwose internet for long time.literally gives me half day batter backup.But before it used to give atleast 2 days.
Solution plZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
Suggest a good ROM with good battery backup along with Energy kind of GUI.

What happend to you is that the rillphone version embended in the latest Energy ROM is not working proply with the radio ROM u have installed.
The solution is to install the appropiate rillphone for your radio ROM.
Search the forum for the rillphone and radio threads

MareleSef said:
What happend to you is that the rillphone version embended in the latest Energy ROM is not working proply with the radio ROM u have installed.
The solution is to install the appropiate rillphone for your radio ROM.
Search the forum for the rillphone and radio threads
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As you have said, i have installed "BS_Rilphone_1_13_25_24.cab" for the Radio i have...after the power cycle..the phone doesnt have any display after the splash screen..I think..i bricked it....

Unless your phone is unlocked. You can't flash non ralph radios

subbuaxel said:
As you have said, i have installed "BS_Rilphone_1_13_25_24.cab" for the Radio i have...after the power cycle..the phone doesnt have any display after the splash screen..I think..i bricked it....
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Reading goes a long way. But maybe I'm being a bit too presumptuous.
Did you by any chance actually take the time to read this section under post #6?:
BATTERY SAVING TIPS
The first few days
• There is nothing special about this ROM to make it use more power than other ROMs except that it is tweaked for performance over battery life. After things have settled down, you should get a couple of days usage out of a charge.
• Immediately after flashing, you will probably observe very poor battery performance. This is due to the charging circuit having to reset itself.
• The battery meter will not settle down and give accurate readings for a few battery cycles. Give it a few days.
• For the first few battery charging cycles, try to charge to 100% with phone off and then allow battery to drain down quite a bit before recharging. This is so the meter will calculate drain well.
Recommendations
• Make sure you followed all of the flashing instructions to the letter. Especially the part about the hard reset.
• Backlight is set to high. You might want to change that.
• 3G is on by default. Recommendation is to turn it off when you are not surfing the internet.
• Don't drain your batery all the way down until it dies. Not good for these types of batteries.
• The GPS sucks the battery dry. If you want to keep track of yourself, consider something like GPSToday that only wakes up the GPS once in a while.
• Maybe you don't really need aGPS enabled. Disable and check GPS lock times and battery drain.
• Applications that run from the storage card consume more power so install oft-used or background-type applications to main memory.
Troubleshooting
• If your radio does not match your rilphone.dll you can get crazy bad battery drainage. Use the recommended radio or spend some time working out a good combination for your phone/carrier/location/usage.
• Check to see that some application is not still running in the background. Check, do not assume. USe the full Task Manager application.
• Check to see if the screen is still on when you expect it to be off. Soft reset can fix that issue.
• Some radios work better with some carriers and locations. Asking everyone to tell you what radio to use may not give you the best answer. Be specific about your situation.
• More stuff you should see HERE
If you have tried all the above and still can't get over a day with moderate use, you may actually have a bad battery. Try getting a new one that is made by another manufacturer.

Friends,
My phone is unlocked
Please suggest if i can change the radio to latest one like this(BlackStone_Radio_1.17.25.09).the ROM that is there 1.13.25.24 is from april 2009.

goyjuss said:
Reading goes a long way. But maybe I'm being a bit too presumptuous.
Did you by any chance actually take the time to read this section under post #6?:
BATTERY SAVING TIPS
The first few days
• There is nothing special about this ROM to make it use more power than other ROMs except that it is tweaked for performance over battery life. After things have settled down, you should get a couple of days usage out of a charge.
• Immediately after flashing, you will probably observe very poor battery performance. This is due to the charging circuit having to reset itself.
• The battery meter will not settle down and give accurate readings for a few battery cycles. Give it a few days.
• For the first few battery charging cycles, try to charge to 100% with phone off and then allow battery to drain down quite a bit before recharging. This is so the meter will calculate drain well.
Recommendations
• Make sure you followed all of the flashing instructions to the letter. Especially the part about the hard reset.
• Backlight is set to high. You might want to change that.
• 3G is on by default. Recommendation is to turn it off when you are not surfing the internet.
• Don't drain your batery all the way down until it dies. Not good for these types of batteries.
• The GPS sucks the battery dry. If you want to keep track of yourself, consider something like GPSToday that only wakes up the GPS once in a while.
• Maybe you don't really need aGPS enabled. Disable and check GPS lock times and battery drain.
• Applications that run from the storage card consume more power so install oft-used or background-type applications to main memory.
Troubleshooting
• If your radio does not match your rilphone.dll you can get crazy bad battery drainage. Use the recommended radio or spend some time working out a good combination for your phone/carrier/location/usage.
• Check to see that some application is not still running in the background. Check, do not assume. USe the full Task Manager application.
• Check to see if the screen is still on when you expect it to be off. Soft reset can fix that issue.
• Some radios work better with some carriers and locations. Asking everyone to tell you what radio to use may not give you the best answer. Be specific about your situation.
• More stuff you should see HERE
If you have tried all the above and still can't get over a day with moderate use, you may actually have a bad battery. Try getting a new one that is made by another manufacturer.
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I have done read and followed each and every one of it.
And also my battery is just 2 months old.Even i tested the ROM for 10 days..but drain is same as usual.

try a differn't rom and see if the problem goes away?

D3TH METAL said:
try a differn't rom and see if the problem goes away?
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Upgraded the radio to 1.14.25.35 along with the suitable rilphone cab.Will test it and will let you know.Also suggest if i can go ahead with flashing of my pro with Energy.RAPHAEL.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Nov.03.

subbuaxel said:
Friends,
My phone is unlocked
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Security unlocked?

DANDANA said:
Security unlocked?
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Yes Security unlocked!

Yes, my friend.
I have the same problem.
Flashed it 2 times with 2 different versions of Energy for the last 2 months ago, but it's still the same. I have the feeling this happened after Energy got the "multiple home screen interface".
can it be draining out the bat??

subbuaxel said:
Yes Security unlocked!
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unless you bought olipro's cid unlocker, what you basically did is "unlocking" your hardspl, which is NOT what you're talking about
you basically can't flash radios of other devices in your touch pro, unless, ofcourse, you buy olipro's cid unlocker. But that doesn't really prevents the risk of bricking your phone.

Battery saving tips fine tweaked.
Use advanced config located in the tools folder of the latest energyrom...set all power management options to enabled, in the performance section file system filter should be set to 4096, system canche size to auto, file system cache enabled. Try to install programs that are used frequently to the internal memory storage rather than storage card. don't use 3g if you are not surfing. Backlight should be set to auto. After you flash any rom make sure you cycle your battery 3-5 full charge cycles before you deem it having poor battery draining.
As for radio to be safe from battery drain use same radio and rilphone.
I personally use which yields great performance and good battery
rilphone 1.14.25.35
raido 1.17.25.09
I live in chicago USA
Oh yeah...stay with energy

siralex241 said:
Use advanced config located in the tools folder of the latest energyrom...set all power management options to enabled, in the performance section file system filter should be set to 4096, system canche size to auto, file system cache enabled. Try to install programs that are used frequently to the internal memory storage rather than storage card. don't use 3g if you are not surfing. Backlight should be set to auto. After you flash any rom make sure you cycle your battery 3-5 full charge cycles before you deem it having poor battery draining.
As for radio to be safe from battery drain use same radio and rilphone.
I personally use which yields great performance and good battery
rilphone 1.14.25.35
raido 1.17.25.09
I live in chicago USA
Oh yeah...stay with energy
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I have flashed My pro with Radio V.1.14.25.35 with the same rilphone.Will also try the advance config and test it for a while.

The battery problem is related to the 2.0 cookie which is still in Beta. There is a patch released which used to help a little bit, but in the last 21683 build it doesn't do much.
If you want your battery to last as before, install the ROM version without 2.0Cookie. There you will get a stable CHT v.1.8.5 and the battery will perform again as it should.

fromaron said:
The battery problem is related to the 2.0 cookie which is still in Beta. There is a patch released which used to help a little bit, but in the last 21683 build it doesn't do much.
If you want your battery to last as before, install the ROM version without 2.0Cookie. There you will get a stable CHT v.1.8.5 and the battery will perform again as it should.
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Hi Friends,
Please suggest a Best and Stable ENERGY ROM for my HTC TOUCH PRO GSM with good battery backup..i will flash it and use it.
PLZZZZZZZZ

siralex241 said:
in the performance section file system filter should be set to 4096, system canche size to auto, file system cache enabled.
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Don't waste your time fiddling with the caches. Any improvements observed are just placebos. The cache settings all have to be made in the boot.rgu of the rom prior to cooking the device. Also, cachesize (which is the tweak that advanced config tries to set) is an obsolete registry key that does nothing in WM5 and later. You can only successfully change the cache sizes post cooking and flashing with WM2003 devices.

Actually it is just the energy rom, I went from tael to energy and my battery life went to less then a day on standby. Went back to tael and the issue was gone. No it's not the radio because I always install .35 radio&ril after all new rom flashes (as well as the fact I use task29). If it was the charging circuit I'd have similar battery life with tael after I flashed it back from energy. But as it sits I can go quite sometime on standby (week?) with tael right after a flash. I can understand having less battery life but less than 24 hours on standby is certainly the rom itself. That's without 3G on since for whatever reason I can't get 3G on any phone that's not an iPhone.
Rom versions I used:
Energy.RAPHAEL.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.GTX.Nov.03
TAEL Sept17

TAEL rom is good..along with it i would prefer any other stable rom with good gui and battery backup...