I noticed that after I installed PHM traylaunch on my prophet my battery drains much faster. I have several programs and tweaks installed, but used to get through the entire day with at about 75% left...now it's down to 50% by the end of the day. Is it possible for the tiny little program to somehow be sapping the battery? That is the only other thing that I have installed since then that I can think would cause the change. Very strange!
Have not noticed that with my wizard - but can try it with and without - will let you know.
mine tray launch sucks up the power very fast also on my prophet..
any one knows why??
No real change on my wizard with traylaunch activated or not. I guess there is a software or hardware clash in the prophet so causing the battery drain. Might be worth hard reseting the prophet and adding one piece of software at a time to find the culprit. Peope have reported thet the Spb today plugins can be battery suckers!
btw U broke the forum rules and posted 3 times on the same issue and once in howard forum - slap wrists..
Don't forget that if you want to make sure, you should get a battery graphing utility to check the actual drain. There's two that work very well:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=950 - Battery Monitor
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=10532 - Pocket Battery Analyzer
Both have demos that will basically run for a maximum of 30 minutes; more than enough to do a quick test to see whether an application running or not is causing significant additional drain.
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Does anybody know if there is a Today Screen plugin which monitors the charging uptime?
History for my question:
I changed my car and the new Board Computer (BC) doesn't show the time from starting the engine (my previous car BC did it). It was a nice feature and so I thought this could be done by my PocketPC (MDAc) starting the uptime clock when I put it into my active Brodit holder in my car....
You could try this
You could try this software.
Looks good. Will try it. Thanx for your quick response.
I could find any setting in this application to start the clock when charging. Only reset the counter to zero when charging.
Any other apps?
No software available for my request?
sounds like a pretty specific program you want
maybe you should have somebody custom make it for you
seemed to be so.
but is a today screen which displays the charging time such a special thing?
donno never heard about it before
nor have i ever wanted for it before
Contactor-E - it could be written easily enough, but I'm afraid I have no time right now, setting up my website and finishing off another ton of stuff for you guys.
I assume that someone's written one, but I really can't think of one...
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I will try to start programming my application...
I'll report here about my success.
Some of what you want may be displayed with Beemer's TodayWarrior:
http://personales.ya.com/beemer/todaywarrior1.htm
There are various toggle icons that show: battery %, elapsed time from last charge, charging, estimated remaining battery time, time to 100% charge, battery volts, current (mA), consumption (mW), temperature. There are also icons for power off, always on, etc.
However, I had problems with its WiFi monitoring side (this can be disabled). It would detect the WLAN, but then hang the application and Xda Exec. The extra WiFiKnife utility didn't work, however, my problems may have been because I ran it from SD-card - haven't had time to test further.
Thank you, but TodayWarrior does not support showing the charging time. Only "Charging" is displayed when connected on power.
here's one
it shows the charging time as well as the time running on batteries. also shows battery indicator and device active time (time the device is turned ON and not sleeping).
it can hide or change its size when running on batteries/charging to save screen space.
you can customize it separately for charging/batteries
see screen shorts
have fun.
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CAB file removed, get the newer one below
Re: here's one
Slight slip up here, this file is actually a RAR-archive and NOT a ZIP-archive. After downloading it, rename the extension from .zip to .rar.
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Slight slip up here, this file is actually a RAR-archive and NOT a ZIP-archive. After downloading it, rename the extension from .zip to .rar.
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thanks, RAR did what I told it to do and not what I wanted it to do
Tried this on Windows Mobile 5, on the O2 Exec (Universal), and couldn't get it to do anything at all.
Hi zfiser!
Works GREAT !!!!!!!!!!! on my MDA compact !!!!
Wow!!!!!!!
Just installed but seems that this is the application I looked for!!!!!!!
Whrer did you find this app? Did you program it?
Do you know what the plugin number is for?
Thanks again!!!
Yes Works great on my Qtek 9100 under WM 5.0
Thanks for this app
The plugin number is to indicate the height you want for the plugin on the today page.
UPDATE
all right guys, since actually 3 people got it and 2 even got it working, I decided to spent some more hours on it. it's quite fun actually.
so, what is new?
1) AUTOSIZE - the plugin automatically decides its height based on your setting. You can still manually override it.
2) ACTUAL CHARGING TIME - now showing time it's plugged in to outlet and also time the battery was charged for. when the battery is fully charged the time stops and you can see how long it took to charge it.
3) ICONS! yea! I think that's pretty cool, saving you a lot of space on the screen while showing everything, plus it looks freaking awesome!
4) more options - the plug can turn itself to color red when the battery level falls under a certain percentage, set by you. now you can't overlook that your battery is almost dead
5) BUGFIXES, yea, that nasty bug not showing minutes, I noticed too, some minor tweaks
Checkout the screenshots! And have fun. And if you still miss something in this plugin (tetris, nude women, etc), let me know
IMPORTANT NOTICE: You MUST disable the plugin in TODAY screen setting (uncheck the checkbox) BEFORE upgrading. Make sure the plugin does not show on the Today screen before you upgrade!
I made the upgrade this morning => no problem
I just want to say that I had to make a soft reset after installation otherwise the plugin didn't show on today screen.
You've done big improvments since the first version
- good idea the icons to save place
- thanks for the autosize
- I'm going to test it this wee-end but no bug at this time
- what about a log file to keep trace of every data that zfTCT record ? Could be useful I think.
Just posting my experiences with my Wizard, but before that, my uasge pattern is as follows,
Outlook Push Email:- about 150 - 180 messages a day
Windows Live:- about 20 a day
Text Messages:- about 80 a day
Phone usage:- apporx 2 hrs talktime
No other net usage
Battery lasts for about 5 - 6 hrs
Memory lasts for 8-10 hrs!!
Now for my experiences,
1) Every time I get receive or send a message, I lose program memory. any message of the 3 types mentioned above. I've seen this in all the ROMs that i've used and its been quite a few now.
2) Memory drain is exponentially quicker if I have my SD card in the phone. I've started removing it and keeping it seperately
3) Some memory can be recovered through FreeUp Ram (SKTools) or Oxios Memory, but the amount available keeps on reducing with time
The link between tmail and memory drain is the most obvious to me 'cos i can actually see it happening. Every time I get a message, or send one, the program memory available after i complete the task, including closing tmail, is less than what was available before. I use BatteryStatus to keep track, but have seen the same thing without BS as well, using SPB Pocket Plus.
I have to reset every day, towards the end of the day, or the phone starts behaving like a dog. Its like "press a button, wait a weekend, and then move forward... :-/
I'm probably just looking for some input on whether this is a problem that others face as well, and if yes, what solutions / work arounds exist to tackle it.
Thanks
--sry wrong idea--
just thought about sd power management trick ,but if tmail is using card, its nonsense idea to try..
memory leak isn't clear for me, though..
could you please tell me why?
What rom/radio are you running? Your sig says Orwell and 2.69, are those still accurate?
yes, that accurate. IPL & SPL are 3.08... also, tmail isnt using SD... i dont keep the card in the phone anymore...
try a newer rom and try lowering your radio to 2.19. I would try the rom first and then the radio.
I had terrible battery life on orwells, but after upgrading to a newer WM6 rom the battery life became much better.
If the rom doesn't help enough, try changing your radio.
Interesting...
Yes, if you can, check to see if a rom change helps with your memory leak. You use your phone a lot more than I do, but I have noticed a small memory leak in every rom I've tried. Maybe you've put your finger on it!
Anyway, you could also install BatteryStatus and report the idle cpu usage. Your custom extended rom could be contributing to your poor battery life.
Regards,
idle CPU usage is between 3 - 7%... battery drain at idle goes down to 70mA... thats without windows live, but with outlook push mail... also have a problem with battery status as it doesnt update dynamically... just stays with one reading till another program or task is launched or it decides that its time to refresh... refresh time is 5 secs, but it seldom is... cpu usage gets updated every 5 secs though... i'm gonna try moving to the Tmobile 2.26 and then to Faria's kitchen rom... will be done in a couple of hrs, but will need a working day to test the results...
i'm still more concerned about the memory, though... battery, i can handle... have an extended battery on the way which is rated for 2400 mA... should last a day, im hoping... but i do really dislike restarting the phone every day...
thanks a million for the interest... im sure there's light at the end of this tunnel as well, now that there are a few members interested...
cheers...
By battery life was horrid. down to under 15% or less by the end of my day (ant with not too much use).
Overnight drain would take my phone down to 50 somthing %!
Long story short, I found that if I didn't run the "Today Radio Plugin" my battey would be at a harty 97% in the morning and be at 57% at the end of my day (I could go 2 day without charging at that rate).
I'm running Dutty's ATT Beta 2 touchflow ROM it may not have the same affect you device.
Those of you that are fustrated by your battery life and running the "Today Radio Plugin", try disableing it and see if you get similar results.
Here is my original post where this was discovered:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350830
May i ask what the TodayRadio Plugin looks like?
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May i ask what the TodayRadio Plugin looks like?
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was wondering the same thing for the longest. just didn't post
I think he is referring to the "Wireless Today Plugin"
The Cab file I used to install it was called "Today Radio Device Toggler". It may also be known as something else. It adds a plugin on the today screen with bluetooth WiFi and Phone, you tap it to toggle those radios on and off.
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The Cab file I used to install it was called "Today Radio Device Toggler". It may also be known as something else. It adds a plugin on the today screen with bluetooth WiFi and Phone, you tap it to toggle those radios on and off.
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it seems as though you have installed batterystatus with the additional taskbar functions to easy control bt wifi and phone.
It's a totally separate application than Battery Status. I like it better because it took less space it the Today screen.
I have completly romoved the offending app now.
I made a small test.
1) Hard reseted the HTC, Charged my battery to 100%, then let the phone lying on my table for 12 hours without doing anything and then check battery status -> 84%
2) Hard reseted the HTC, installed SPB mobile shell 2.0 Charged my battery to 100%, then let the phone lying on my table for 12 hours without doing anything and then check battery status -> 68%
Anyone encountered this same issue?????
Thansk a lot for helping
Dag
Depends on whether you have set weather updates to download at set intervals. Also check your backlight options, this may have been changed by SPB.
I think I have heard a similar thing a couple of times (spb draining the battery). The solution as suggested by MrSmith22 is to disable the automatic weather updates. I think you also need to disable the option "Show the Now Screen when device wakes up".
Another thing which you may find useful is to install the PowerGuard program (freeware) and monitor the energy drawn by your device. I installed version 1.5 of the software you are using and with screen dimmed and nothing else running the buttery current is -32mA. Of course this varies between now and then...
I would say if you notice huge negative numbers while at standby, for example, -150, -300, then there might be a problem! These numbers are what i get when i use coreplayer for music or video.
Of course you need to make sure that WiFi is turned off. I have no idea how spb updates the weather reports. If it tries to use a WiFi connection every 10 minutes then i guess this could be a cause... In my device, I have also disabled the HSDPA mode as I do not really need it.
Bottom line, run PowerGuard and observe the current drawn with and without the software you are interested in.
Hope I helped...
Hi,
i would like to know if it's normal that my battery goes to 100 % at the beginning of the day to 68% at the end. (i'm not using it mutch !!)
besides when i switch on my htc my processor is using 38% et then after using a prog it goes to 41% and stay at 41% after ending all progs i used.
if there is a prog who can optimize using processor it will be great (i know i'm asking a lote).
(by the way thank's a lot for the forum !!)
A power drain like that is unusual. I get to about 80% by 6pm just from making a couple of short calls and checking the forums on my lunch using 3g which I think is acceptable.
Generally your battery will run down faster if you have programs running in the back ground or you have other radios on (bluetooth, wifi, gps) etc.
Wifi will run your battery right down if left on.
Also turn down your brightness on the screen as that is a battery drain when its on and also adjust your power settings to turn off the scree faster when you are not using it. Most of these can be found in your start > Settings.
A friend of mine gave me a tip that when you flash your phone to a new radio you should do it with 100% battery as it helps improve the battery life. Not sure whether thats true or not but it seemed to work for me, of course it could have just been a better radio!
Hope that helps.
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besides when i switch on my htc my processor is using 38% et then after using a prog it goes to 41% and stay at 41% after ending all progs i used.
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Is it processor usage or used memory? Processor is the thing that does different calculations and needs more energy when being used more intensively (at least that's what I think). Memory is just a container of information ("0's and 1's") and energy is needed for maintenance of all 100% of memory, so imho it shouldn't change much if 38% are used or 41% (and again - that's just what I think about memory usage; I have no scientific proof for that ).
Btw, question from me - does strength and/or type of signal/network (with "type" I mean all those GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA networks) affect power usage in any way?
i hanged where i worked a few weeks ago and now I find I get 5 days from my battery, I only got 3 1/2 before. I have noticed that with my old job I never had better then 2 bars of service. this must prove that signal strength has something to do with battery life
Ofcourse. when you have better reception ur phone has to use less powerto send his signal and thus uses less energie
is it possible if u use a memory card, that the phone use the RAM not a memory (for files) but as a real RAM (like on pc) ?
Is there any lighter theme than the original one which can make the processor running slower ?
if you want the best battery life turn off htc home so you just have a blank home screen!!!
hold on I have a great idea, I will sit down this weekend and make a text only interface for my cruise. that would give some awesome battey life. I suppose I might as well buy an old nokia 2010 and save my time LOL.
Battery life depends on some many things its hard to get the phone to last the same lenght of time each day for me let alone everybody.
ook ....., thx for your help.
Do you have Slide 2 Unlock version 1.21 installed? That drains battery very fast. It has a bad "iLock2.exe". It's better to download the latest version of S2U2.
Btw, what about different "minimized" applications? With "minimized" I mean those that are left opened in background for using them later (e.g., paused music player, opened pdf, opened contacts/tasks/scheduler etc). On PC, such applications should not consume any resources (expect RAM, of course ;D) as there's no persistant interaction between application and user/data, so it would consume more power to open/close application and read/write data. What about such apps on windows mobile devices? Is it better to close/open applications so that they run only when they are being used? Or is it better to leave them in background while they aren't used? This question is about apps that are used on regular basis, i.e., like 20+ times a day...
Music players tend to keep the device powered up while the player is loaded and playing. You may have noticed the device keeps playing the music while the device seems off in many of the players. In fact, only the screen is off in this case.
There is a chance your music player keeps the device on when paused as well, wasting a lot of energy for nothing.
Hi,
I had the same problem, the culprit was btio.
btio was working fine on my qtek 9100, but on my cruise, this software empty the battery in about 24h
Regards
Pat