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PHM Traylaunch Sapping my Battery?!?!?!

I noticed that after I installed PHM traylaunch on my prophet my battery drains much faster. I have several programs and tweaks installed, but used to get through the entire day with at about 75% left...now it's down to 50% by the end of the day. Is it possible for the tiny little program to somehow be sapping the battery? That is the only other thing that I have installed since then that I can think would cause the change. Very strange!

Have not noticed that with my wizard - but can try it with and without - will let you know.

mine tray launch sucks up the power very fast also on my prophet..
any one knows why??

No real change on my wizard with traylaunch activated or not. I guess there is a software or hardware clash in the prophet so causing the battery drain. Might be worth hard reseting the prophet and adding one piece of software at a time to find the culprit. Peope have reported thet the Spb today plugins can be battery suckers!
btw U broke the forum rules and posted 3 times on the same issue and once in howard forum - slap wrists..

Don't forget that if you want to make sure, you should get a battery graphing utility to check the actual drain. There's two that work very well:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=950 - Battery Monitor
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=10532 - Pocket Battery Analyzer
Both have demos that will basically run for a maximum of 30 minutes; more than enough to do a quick test to see whether an application running or not is causing significant additional drain.

Battery time

Hi, I just wanted to know if there is some way to save battery, I've bought an I-mate 6150 and I cant make it last for 1 day,, please I need some help

diego_gb8 said:
Hi, I just wanted to know if there is some way to save battery, I've bought an I-mate 6150 and I cant make it last for 1 day,, please I need some help
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Turn off bluetooth, beam, wifi, data connections
Ensure your phone hasn't got automatic updates activated for anything, i.e. weather/stock/emails etc etc especially if set to update every 30 mins etc
Also in wifi settings, ensure wifi is set to 'best battery'
You could also dim screen slightly either permanently or after a period of time if not used.
Also check if any apps installed are working in background eating up battery
Simple things like these should help.

Good hints so far ...
You can also take a look here
http://www.wmskins.com/blog/how-to-increase-battery-life-of-windows-mobiles

fwt said:
Good hints so far ...
You can also take a look here
http://www.wmskins.com/blog/how-to-increase-battery-life-of-windows-mobiles
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Nice link, reading over this myself to see if I can improve my own

TY guys, but I have already did all of those hints to my phone, don't you think it could possibly be my SPB Shell 3.5.3 ? :S

Here's what I do to find out my Battery Life Time:
- Flash ROM or Hardreset
- do not install any App or activate automatic Updates for at least 2 - 3 days (at least 3 x Full charging Processes) to find out the Battery Time on the naked ROM
- do a little Log (how many calls ... how many SMS ... high usage over the day ... low usage over the day)
- after these first days activate only things inside the ROM (eMail ... WiFi ... Weather ... what ever your ROM delivers) => still don't install anything new on your device (again for at least 3 x Full charging Processes)
- write your findings down
- Install Apps ... but ... only one at the same time
- monitor the behavior of your Batt
- You can also use Tools like BatTest or BattLog to get "better" (measurable) results
That way I found some Taskbar Modification and other Tools to be Battery eater (nice Icons but short BattLifeTime)
Good look
fwt

battery log says: 71% (dunno about what), 3,912v, 3,4ºC and 280ma; is this good for my phone? :S
Questions:
1: what is a ROM?
2: what means flashing it and what could it fix? :|
please, help me >.<, I got out from my home today, leaving the phone with 100% battery life, but when I came back (5 hours later) it was 70%.

Battery driver manager - application "cheater"

Hi.
I created some piece of software that stops/starts/restarts battery driver.
As some people know, there is 20% battery limitation on our tg01 and that is why some applications do not want to start ( Wi-Fi manager, GPRS connection, camera ...). As one of user detected, stopping battery driver "fix" certain of mentioned situations because asking for battery level they get.... tg01 connected to charger and battery level greater than 20%.
It is caused by the fact that coredll.dll returns such bad result ( has invalid handle to stopped/restarted battery driver and does not report errors ! ).
Applications that ask about battery level via coredll.dll may be cheated this way and fortunately Wi-Fi manager , GPRS connection, battery indicator in upper bar do it.
Other application that ask battery driver directly via IOCTL get correct value and this may be the way to create own battery meter to know battery level however.
I realize that FDC TaskMgr.exe has options to do the same but my software seems to be more simple to use and can be even more simple . In this versions it has two buttons that allow to stop/start/restart battery driver.
Feel free to test the programm and let me know about any bugs.
I would like to warn You that on some systems You can get message from devices.exe about crash ( typically when You press stop button ) but do not worry. If it happens , try always restart instead of stop. It is even preferable way to use the program because :
1) one can check real battery level . How ? I mentioned above
2) some applications have problem to start if they can not retrieve battery level. I mean about applications asking not coredll.dll but battery driver directly.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd

Powerful application!!!
If restart button re-initialize battery measure you could create an application that every 5-10 min make a battery service restart. So battery meter display a correct value and is not necessary phone restart.
PS. I use your rom fxdjROM1_5 from few days.

albug68 said:
Powerful application!!!
If restart button re-initialize battery measure you could create an application that every 5-10 min make a battery service restart. So battery meter display a correct value and is not necessary phone restart.
PS. I use your rom fxdjROM1_5 from few days.
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Thanks. I hope You like this rom
If You use my rom this application is not needed and even should not be utilized !
You wrote:
"So battery meter display a correct value and is not necessary phone restart."
Is it Your suspection or real knowledge ? I was inspecting battery driver problems and unfortunately it seems that original battery driver restart, gives nothing ! ( I was doing it many times - stop, 1s delay, start and nothing changed. Still bad values )
I am amased this fact because if original battery driver controls battery charging hardware and D/A converter, so it seems to be natural that its restart should force new measauraments from hardware. One may suspect that there must exists any other source(s) of D/A data, outside of original battery driver and only system restart is able really "reset" it. Battery driver is in WM so called high device driver so it is possible it does not control hardware itself. Who controls it thus ? I do not know.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd

Thank's for answer.
I developed many times ago a c# program to display %, Volts, Amper and other battery parameter using a power structure of Windows Mobile. I remember only % parameter worked on TG01. Both Volts and Amper always 0. Different on Acer E101 where I could measure %, Volts and Amper.
So I think the only reason why I can not measure voltage and current is that battery chip interface transmit only % to SO and that % measure algoritm (bad measure algoritm) is into the chip and can not be changed. So when we restart the phone the battery chip is resetted and the battery level is correct because the algoritm is re-initialized.
PS. sorry for my english. I hope you understand.

albug68 said:
So I think the only reason why I can not measure voltage and current is that battery chip interface transmit only % to SO
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I absolutely agree with You. It of course depends on hardware solution and this informations should be available but they are not retrieved ( by battery driver ? )
albug68 said:
and that % measure algoritm (bad measure algoritm) is into the chip and can not be changed. So when we restart the phone the battery chip is resetted and the battery level is correct because the algoritm is re-initialized.
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I rather doubt in it but who knows. I did not hear about such crappy ( strange behaving ) IC.
Take into account that we only see voltage decreases ( never seen voltage increase ) but increases are of course present in our phone. Current is able to change from 400mA to 100mA ( GSM connections ) and it must ( should ) give change of system battery gauge ( original Toshiba battery resistance is about 0.3 Ohm ) but it does not give ! Increases are only observable when we connect charger to tg01.
I share Your oppinion that any algorithm works bad but rather outside the chip.
If I knew hardware solution of our tg01 I could say more.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd

fxdjacentyfxd said:
...I share Your oppinion that any algorithm works bad but rather outside the chip.
If I knew hardware solution of our tg01 I could say more.
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Maybe algoritm is external but toshiba is able to build new custom chipset for own product only for reduce phone size.
I suspect battery chip with own firmware because it's suspect that i can't measure battery voltage
or toshiba don't want we manipulate battery management for some strange reason.
However little hint on your ROM.
I see that you lock general battery % measure to 26% and draw a little battery icon on start menù with real percentage but missing alarm battery down.
Is it possible add this alarm in the next ROM?
Regards
albug68

albug68 said:
However little hint on your ROM.
I see that you lock general battery % measure to 26% and draw a little battery icon on start menù with real percentage but missing alarm battery down.
Is it possible add this alarm in the next ROM?
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I do not quite catch You .
Firstly - this read icon in upper bar or even 26% gauge "tells" user "battery 20% level has been achieved"
Secondly - as I know people do not want any annoying "law battery warning" or similar. You want it ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd

fxdjacentyfxd said:
Secondly - as I know people do not want any annoying "law battery warning" or similar. You want it ?
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It is true (...annoying...) but for the people is better to have died without knowing the TG01?
Regards
albug68

.... i have test Battery driver manager - application "cheater" By: fxdjacentyfxd
AND I MUST SAY- fxdjacentyfxd buohAa what for a incredible tool! AND YES you are a great software master- REALLY
(My tnx limit is full) but i give you latter 3x tnx!

fxdjacentyfxd said:
I do not quite catch You .
Firstly - this read icon in upper bar or even 26% gauge "tells" user "battery 20% level has been achieved"
Secondly - as I know people do not want any annoying "law battery warning" or similar. You want it ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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mirolg said:
.... i have test Battery driver manager - application "cheater" By: fxdjacentyfxd
AND I MUST SAY- fxdjacentyfxd buohAa what for a incredible tool! AND YES you are a great software master- REALLY
(My tnx limit is full) but i give you latter 3x tnx!
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Hi fxdjacentyfxd
I can understand that you want to maintain the control over your software and so you don't want to share your driver for free....
Nevertheless, could you please study a way to supply your driver to users interested in it, but using other ROMs? (I don't know, a kind of shareware with a period of free test and paying a fair cost for the continuous use....)
Of course that the best would be having it for free, but it depends only on you
Best regards

Pere said:
Hi fxdjacentyfxd
I can understand that you want to maintain the control over your software and so you don't want to share your driver for free....
Nevertheless, could you please study a way to supply your driver to users interested in it, but using other ROMs? (I don't know, a kind of shareware with a period of free test and paying a fair cost for the continuous use....)
Of course that the best would be having it for free, but it depends only on you
Best regards
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Gentelmans, You will drive me to insane
How many times I am write on the forum that my driver is not for cookers ( only my roms have it embeded ) but is absolutely free for all people who ask me about it because they want to have it in their roms. Ask Oly and others who recieved it from me. It is in form of personalized setup so it require 2-steps installations.
In first step user executes setup and get unique number which numer he gives me. I prepare special dat file and send it to him. This time setup will be completed and voila ! .
Any asks on PM as I described already on the forum.
P.S. Pere, today evening new rom for You
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd

fxdjacentyfxd said:
Gentelmans, You will drive me to insane
How many times I am write on the forum that my driver is not for cookers ( only my roms have it embeded ) but is absolutely free ......... Pere, today evening new rom for You
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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I'm anxious
By the way, I didn't know that your driver was free! Very kind of you. My respects !!

[Q] Battery consumption live tile

With WP7 mango and all new APIs, I wonder if it is possible to make an instant ( 10 or 20 past seconds) battery consumption indicator, Or a sort of "Batterytool" like htc who can work when the screen is off, like we can found in android.
It could be very useful for making some test.
I'm not a developer but once again I want to thanks the community for their work.

Unfortunately the answer is it's not currently possible to get the battery level through code (through the approved APIs that is; Mango included). I think the best you can do is detect that the phone has transitioned to 'low power', but not e.g. a %.

You can see the current battery % in the battery Saver

which aplication can i use for monitor battery in % ?

termits said:
which aplication can i use for monitor battery in % ?
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You can't.
Only built in battery saver in settings.

for those of you subscribed to this thread and may have missed the other thread there is a solution for people who can sideload here.
works great and with live tile!

[Q] HTC Droid Incredible rooted - battery life - Baseband?

I have a Verizon W Droid Incredible rooted. I installed the ROM from one of the developers on this site:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260994#
My phone works great and I'm very happy... kudos to Jermaine151
Only two questions,
1) i'm not a heavy user and my phone stay on my desk all the time and I check e-mail 4-5 times a day and the battery last only 5-6 hours,
I read on this site and others that my radio (baseband) might help improve this issue. How do I change and how do I know I need to update it?
2) Speech to Text does not work all the time. I talk "loud" and it does not do anything... I know the mic works cuz I cam make phone calls - also, I enable spanish and the speech to text does not recognize spanish words. how do I enable and fix this?
Adroid Version 2.3.4
Baseband 2.15.00.09.01
Kernel 2.6.35.15-g55a06e5
build number 4.06.605.3 Stock+ jermine151
Software 4.06.605.3
Browser WebKit/533.1
PRI 1.28_002
PRL 52501
ERI 5
Thank you

- First of all check the battery drain using Current Widget and check how many mA it drains. Remember to enable logging, and let the phone alone for about 1 hour with WiFi/GPS and so on OFF.
- If the phone uses more then 10++ mA in standby, a new kernel can fix it.
- If you have bad reception then a new radio will fix that, and possibly use less battery.
But first use Current Widget before you do something else.

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A

thank you BazzokaAce
I already change my radio... still checking to see if this makes it better...
on the mA usage, i'm a noob on this, how do I check this part, I installed the app you recommended and I added the widget to my home screen, I turn everything off GPS, wifi, how about the network?
how do I see if I used more than 10 mA
I appreciate your support

After you've added the widget on the homescreen just let the phone alone. Don't use it for a while. After 30min - 1 hour wake the phone, go to the Current Widget menu (just press the app icon) and press "Read Log" (or something like that). Now you'll see the time and battery drain (mA = Milliamps).
The thing you want to see is the lowest number possible.

Ty BazzokaAce
I did that I the log says...
-54mA, 30%, 3.689V
what do I do now?

You think I should try another ROM?
what ROM do you recommend?
I just want the battery to last at least till the end of the day... mine runs out at mid day and without using it...
still have the speech to text problem as well

Ooops! Sorry for the late reply I recommend CM7 or MIUI.