graphic card on msm7227 same as snapdragon qsd8650 - General Topics

msn7227 has same graphic processor as snapdragon QSD8650 (AMD z430)
here the proof
msm7227:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/resultdetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro11&resultid=9480443&D=LGE
QSD8650:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/resultdetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro11&resultid=9334470&D=LG GW820
thats very good for the upcoming 7227 devices..

lol
Do this mean that the Drivers for example from Leo must to work on Blackstone too?

tsalta said:
lol
Do this mean that the Drivers for example from Leo must to work on Blackstone too?
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no i dont think so ...
blackstone has msm7201a that has the old generation graphics Q3Dimension MSM7500W
and the msm7227 ,Snapdragon QSD8250 B and QSD8650 has AMD z430 .
i am waiting for the msm7227 3d benchmarks to how good are they really..

hm interesting... I thought before that MSM7227, like MSM7225, have not ATI inside at all.

Cotulla said:
hm interesting... I thought before that MSM7227, like MSM7225, have not ATI inside at all.
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i think qualcomm will not say that msm7227 has AMD Z430 ,not to effect snapdragon party.

sx1-doc said:
i think qualcomm will not say that msm7227 has AMD Z430 ,not to effect snapdragon party.
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It wouldn't affect it. Snapdragon has faster CPU and supports 720p video where 7227 supports only WVGA and has 600mhz ARM11 CPU.
They're in completely different leagues.

MSM7227 also have VFP (floating point unit) like 8250.
not sure how fast MSM7227 will be, but 8250 is really fast

Cotulla said:
MSM7227 also have VFP (floating point unit) like 8250.
not sure how fast MSM7227 will be, but 8250 is really fast
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i totally agree with you,but as i know msm7227 is a lowend CPU that have the goodies of highend CPU ,and trust me 600 mhz cpu +AMD 430 + good Drivers should deliver enough power to rum xp or even ubuntu with good speed.
let microsoft stop whining about WM7 requirement with 1ghz cpu and all the crap,just piss me of.

sx1-doc said:
i totally agree with you,but as i know msm7227 is a lowend CPU that have the goodies of highend CPU ,and trust me 600 mhz cpu +AMD 430 + good Drivers should deliver enough power to rum xp or even ubuntu with good speed.
let microsoft stop whining about WM7 requirement with 1ghz cpu and all the crap,just piss me of.
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Do you even know what you're talking about?
MSM7227 is nothing more than upgraded MSM7201 which is by many users considered piece of sh*t.
Compared to qsd8250 it is nothing but low end.
Besides 600mhz ARM11 CPU can't compete with any higher end device, so making it a minimum for WP7S would be pointless, especially considering the timeframe.
So stop whining. I don't see people whining about ipad having 1Ghz CPU...
Other way around. If MS would make lower minimum requirements people would complain that they are not competitive where others use better parts.
P.S. You can't run XP on it! XP is x86 based not ARM based so there is no way you could run it.
For ubuntu I would recommend something faster than 600mhz...

Maybe it's not fast enough for ubuntu or Win7 or whatever, but thanks for that info. HTC just put out the Legend, an android device, which is supposed to supersede the HTC Hero. From what we've seen there was nothing substantial to differentiate the 2 (apart from a dozen of Mhz clockspeed and some ram), but this is quite substancial news to us

it feels like wm7 will be hacked ,ported to the current devices in a way or another(time will tell).
let me say one more thing ,what i meant that msm7227 doesn't seem so bad as it has been describe on couple of web pages .
i didnt try to compare snapdragon power to msm7227 ,all i want do say that they have the same graphic processor (and thats a good push).

sx1-doc said:
it feels like wm7 will be hacked ,ported to the current devices in a way or another(time will tell).
let me say one more thing ,what i meant that msm7227 doesn't seem so bad as it has been describe on couple of web pages .
i didnt try to compare snapdragon power to msm7227 ,all i want do say that they have the same graphic processor (and thats a good push).
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To port WP7 you need drivers. We don't have them. To make drivers you need band of developers spending their free time trying to write them all by themselves or at best trying to port drivers from newer devices.
Only device which could probably/maybe run WP7 is HD2. End of story.
Don't fool yourself thinking that WP7 will be ported for old QVGA devices or even newer devices like Diamond, X1 or even HD(Blackstone) and not just because of MS but because ODM don't want to invest in old devices when they can invest in newer(which they can then sell and get some profit from it). End of story.
About msm7227. It's not bad. It is what msm7201 should be from the beginning but unfortunately now it is nothing more than mid class.

Of course this chipset has a less performant cpu than the snapdragon, but since they have the same gpu they will offer equal 3d performance. My demo here shows that the HD2 is very powerfull when it comes to extensive per-pixel calculations. The demo uses the gpu as much as possible, the speed of the cpu doesn't matter. So I think that my demo might run even faster on the HD mini than on the HD2, since it has less that half that much pixels compared to the HD2. We'll see
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Epic fail
All i have to say is -Mytouch 3g slide-. this entire thread is one "Epic fail" of, well , i guess some sort of debate of wits. The MTS has the ARM 600 and it is BEAST!!!! Say what you will about this comment but the fact remains that this phone has proven you all wrong. Cheap, low-end, crap..... none of it true when HTC and Android 2.1 combined to use this hardware and created this device...
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Complain about "bad" benchmarks on Raphael/Diamond/X1/Blackstone? Check -> Asus P565

Complain about "bad" benchmarks on Raphael/Diamond/X1/Blackstone? Check -> Asus P565
Hey !
I´m a happy Sony X1 User and have also owned a Raphael / Diamond / TyTN II / Tytn and more.
In the Raphael/Diamond/Blackstone/X1 Forums many people complain about the "bad" Benchmarks/Performance they get with their phones. Especially graphics-wise.
Sometime ago I heard about the new Asus P565 which is a Diamond-style Device (VGA, no keyboard, 2,8 inch Screen, few buttons, minimalistic design... ) but with a 800 Mhz Marvel CPU !
Since I owned several devices in the past I was interested in how this first "highend CPU" Device would do feel benchmark-like.
I searched the internet but got only one review from a chinese site
Some days ago it got available in Germany so.. I decided to buy and play with it. (I love gadgets )
What should I say... This device is performance-wise a dream come true !
I wish all of the above mentioned devices had this new CPU / graphicsdrivers inside...
You can play Games using Morphgear with Sound (on best settings ! 44.000 khz) and full screen flawlessly (any emulator). On the X1 you can do mostly the same when turning sound completly off and turning frameskipping ON.
Also you can use FPSEce 0.09.6 playing Playsation Games + Sound with a wopping 40-50 FPS (frames per second) ! Ridge Racer and Final Fantasy 7 run perfect now ! With my X1 or a Touch Pro you get 12-18 FPS and the games are mostly unplayable and unenjoyable.
I was blown away... Hopefully the next-gen devices from our favourite company will feature a performance like that too !
Wanna see some SPB Benchmark and -VS Benchmark 2007- results ?
Here we go :
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(Also available in the zip file below)
ALL Benchmarks are done using my own devices with the same performance tweaks and mostly the same software installed (making them comparable)
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Update 2009-01-05
I did also some Benchmarking with the newest SK-Tools.
Here we go :
The 800 Mhz Marvel CPU is very impressive. Only wish the P565 had a bigger screen. But the March 2009 Asus P835 Galaxy 7 will, and hopefully the same cpu!!
galaxys said:
The 800 Mhz Marvel CPU is very impressive. Only wish the P565 had a bigger screen. But the March 2009 Asus P835 Galaxy 7 will, and hopefully the same cpu!!
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Yeah, a 3,5 or 3,8 inch screen would be pretty nice !
But... The Galaxy 7 will feature only the same CPU as the X1 / Raphael and stuff... NOT a Marvell one...
Cant remember where but I read this on some Win Mobile News pages (MsMobiles/WMPoweruser etc.)
One more thing that bugs me with the Galaxy is that it will "feature" a scroll ball instead of a D-Pad. Iiiiih.
-> Not good for playing games.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Asus-P835-phone-p_3332.html
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* Windows Mobile Professional; 6.1 Professional
# Processor
* Qualcomm MSM 7200A, 528 MHz
# Memory
* 256 MB RAM / 256 MB ROM
http://www.itechnews.net/2008/12/18/asus-p835-galaxy-7-pda-phone/
. The Asus P835 Galaxy 7 is powered by Qualcomm MSM7200A 528MHz processor, 256MB of RAM, and 256MB ROM. There is also 4GB flash storage.
well at least there's hope for quality drivers (not the crap that HTC accepts from qualcomm.)
Thanks for validating the point I made that the ASUS xscale is very fast without a GPU or FPU. Is the device any more expensive than an equivalent Qualcomm device? It's nice it even has the SiRFIII GPS chip so it lasts probably at least 3x better on battery than the Qualcomm GPSone.
m.carroll said:
well at least there's hope for quality drivers (not the crap that HTC accepts from qualcomm.)
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Since it's a different CPU (Xscale same as Omnia) architecture, it is very difficult to hope for better drivers since some of it is probably optimized WMMX instructions available only to XScale.
Don't buy HTC/Qualcomm is the only sure way to avoid this headache.
anyone noticed that P565 despite all this top performance,
is absolute crap regarding the music score?
ONLY 370 for sound? for a high end device like this too bad...
what's wrong?
xeirwn said:
anyone noticed that P565 despite all this top performance,
is absolute crap regarding the music score?
ONLY 370 for sound? for a high end device like this too bad...
what's wrong?
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I noticed that too, but what does it really mean ?
You can hear music and stuff without problems with the P565...
Actually I thought lower=faster=better in this sound-benchmark...?
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I updated the first post. -> More Benchmark comparisons ! (SK-Tools)
xeirwn said:
anyone noticed that P565 despite all this top performance,
is absolute crap regarding the music score?
ONLY 370 for sound? for a high end device like this too bad...
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The Kaiser doesn't score that much better on the music score either and there's hasn't been much complaint about the Kaiser's music abilities (except for the crappy MIDI playback in my experience).
fards said:
The Asus P835 Galaxy 7 is powered by Qualcomm MSM7200A 528MHz processor, 256MB of RAM, and 256MB ROM. There is also 4GB flash storage.
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well at least there's hope for quality drivers (not the crap that HTC accepts from qualcomm.)
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since it's a qualcomm, it may have better drivers.
does the Asus have libgles_cm/l.dll support? This would make it the killer PDA!
Hi foto
I'm really interested in getting an ASUS 565 mainly for emulators, can you play landscape using dpad and mapping buttons to screen?
So im guessing FPSECE all games are payable? ? would be a dream come true!
Many thanks for your info!
hi there,i owned couple of wm devices in the past and let me put it this way:
asus has much better mainboards (they r genius ) so if you put same cpu in htc and asus pda ,the asus pda will win for sure ,no doubt.
marvell is another leage in cpu making ( i gave them the win since xda 2 mini,s100).
as we need more 2d performance (for the phone to feel fast and videoto run smooth ,fotos to load fast ....) ,qualcomm 528 cpu with graphic ship is fast as marvell cpu at 330.
3d performance is still mostly relying on cpu these days (dont know why qualcomm are so bad in this area even with there integrated 3d hardware ship.
i just go an xperia today,upgrading from a beast of power called asus p525.
my pda history
magician,wizard,universal,prophet,artemis,elf,xda flame (sold after 1 month ,too many issues) ,asus p525(my favorite) now se xperia x1

[INFO] WTH is this A9 and A8 Cortex stuff ?? The Sensation CPU is A9 Period.

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title says it all.
Is that Wikipedia? lol
Anyways, from what I've learned, the 8660/8260 are mixes of A8 and A9.
Considering it lists the single core snapdragons as a8, and the dual core snapdragon as a9, when they both contain the same cpu design, that source clearly has issues. Its neither a8 nor a9 but performance wise its somewhere in between. Though it has better neon performance than both.
The Orion cpu is still much more effcient and better anyway... it is also equipped with a better gpu (mali 400)
Its based off the 8's design, just a bit modified.
The dual core snapdragon also includes asynchronous clocking of the cores which depending on the workload could make it more battery efficient.
It's completely irrelevant anyway.
ARM is the company who gives licenses to other company to use their technology, but it's not a final product.
The thing that matters is the actual performance.
As mentioned before, ARM is the company whose designs all of these CPUs are based upon.
Apple, Samsung, nvidia, Qualcomm, TI, LG, and others license these designs and are at liberty to make changes to how they behave.
The differences between all of the dual-core versions from these companies is vast, not taking into consideration which GPU they use.
The Tegra 2, for example, doesn't have the per-core throttling that Qualcomm and others will probably have. This is probably a result of how quick to market the Tegra 2 was and how efficiently nvidia can produce chips.
It's all very fascinating, and I'm looking forward to owning an A5, Tegra 2, and MSM at the same time.
kampf said:
As mentioned before, ARM is the company whose designs all of these CPUs are based upon.
Apple, Samsung, nvidia, Qualcomm, TI, LG, and others license these designs and are at liberty to make changes to how they behave.
The differences between all of the dual-core versions from these companies is vast, not taking into consideration which GPU they use.
The Tegra 2, for example, doesn't have the per-core throttling that Qualcomm and others will probably have. This is probably a result of how quick to market the Tegra 2 was and how efficiently nvidia can produce chips.
It's all very fascinating, and I'm looking forward to owning an A5, Tegra 2, and MSM at the same time.
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Despite having "vast" differences there are very few differences speed differences between CPUS.
The biggest differences between the hummingbird and the snapdragon is the GPU.
actually it s not A9 nor A8, it is at base an enhanced A8 that is similar to A9 architecture in many ways, but has some tweaks up it sleves, Qualcomm call this architecture "Scorpio"
hope this will clear it up:http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...-cpu-and-gpu-chipsets-coming-later-this-year/
^^ I agree. I did some research into the A8, A9, and core differences again last night. The MSM chip used in the Sensation is a much-modified A8. Qualcomm loves to tinker with the ARM designs.
I do think it's still probably a better chip than the Tegra2, but not the A5/Exy.
Well,it really isn't A8 nor A9.We could say Qualcomm has its "own'' architecture.The Snapdragon's first generation(HD2,Desire etc) was very very close to the A8.The second gen Snapdragon is more A9 than A8.Enhanced chipsets,faster memories,larger RAM etc are all part of it.And Qualcomm's were the only single-core chipsets that could boast this much.Overclockable @2+ GHz without getting fried?I am running my Desire HD daily @1.8GHz and it's stable,it doesn't get hot and it feels faster and smoother than everything I have laid hands onto.
I am very excited to see what the Sensation will bring.AND if it'll rival the Galaxy S 2.
tolis626 said:
Well,it really isn't A8 nor A9.We could say Qualcomm has its "own'' architecture.The Snapdragon's first generation(HD2,Desire etc) was very very close to the A8.The second gen Snapdragon is more A9 than A8.Enhanced chipsets,faster memories,larger RAM etc are all part of it.And Qualcomm's were the only single-core chipsets that could boast this much.Overclockable @2+ GHz without getting fried?I am running my Desire HD daily @1.8GHz and it's stable,it doesn't get hot and it feels faster and smoother than everything I have laid hands onto.
I am very excited to see what the Sensation will bring.AND if it'll rival the Galaxy S 2.
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regardless of if it is closer to a9 or not, it's competitors are putting up better benchmarks, so we end up getting ****tier hardware.

Exynos 4210___VS___OMAP4460=iPhone5

Exynos 4210
-1-1.4 GHz Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
- ARM Mali-400 MP
- DDR3
(Samsung Galaxy S II, Hardkernel ODROID-A)
OMAP4460
- 1.5 GHz Dual-Core ARM Cortex-A9
- PowerVR SGX540 @ 384 MHz
- Dual-channel LPDDR2 memory controller
(Google Nexus Prime (rumor), Archos 101 (Gen 9), Archos 80 (Gen 9), Sharp 104SH)
Apple A-5
Apple will most likely use a chip A5, similar to that of the iPad 2, the performance graphics core that is two to four times higher than in the Galaxy S II.
....I am a bit disappointed...why ?? check the benchmark test below
Which one are you disappointed with? They're both great!
666fff said:
Which one are you disappointed with? They're both great!
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But not that great compared to the Apple A5.
Samsung announced a Exynos 4212 for next year.
Isn't there a OMAP 4470 with an SGX 544 announced too?
I'm sure the Apple A6 will be dandy too.
Its all good in the SOC land unless you like Nokia phones.
WTH has this got to do with the Samsung GS2? Why are people just posting anything they want in this forum, when it's already all over the place as it is. There are off-topic forums for this type of thread.
You didn't even benchmark them or present any results.
You could put Tegra 2 and Exynos 4210 side by side, clock for clock but the Exynos would still come out on top. Clock speeds ain't everything.
I am willing to bet that the Exynos smokes it in benchmarks and in IRL performance
johncmolyneux said:
WTH has this got to do with the Samsung GS2? Why are people just posting anything they want in this forum, when it's already all over the place as it is. There are off-topic forums for this type of thread.
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Do u admin?
-NO
so dont be a rat.
DDR2 vs DDR3
Benchmarks will be higher than SGSII only because 1.5ghz...
I think oxynos got better and newer GPU tnan PowerVR SGX540...
I dont understand why samsung took OMAP to the board....money??
Dont forget than A5-2 times powerfully than SGSII....so damn iPhone 5 will kill....
And its bad news for me and for people who hate apple
u need bench ??? Cry....
We are failed guys !
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so:
“Samsung implemented a 4-core version of the Mali-400 in the 4210 and its resulting performance is staggering as you can see above. Although it’s still not as fast as the PowerVR SGX 543MP2 found in the iPad 2, it’s anywhere from 1.7 – 4x faster than anything that’s shipping a smartphone today.”
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/09/12/iphone-5-fastest/
I could have sworn the chip used in the iPad 2 is just an underclocked Exynos CPU with a PowerVR GPU.
Toss3 said:
But not that great compared to the Apple A5.
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The apple A5 uses the same cores as the Exynos chip but has a more powerful PowerVR gpu. The cores are 200MHz slower. The A5 has better gpu performance but worse cpu performance, and the gpu performance only has an impact in 3D applications.
The OMAP4460 is faster than the exynos, so it also beats out the A5 in cpu performance.
Furry Atom said:
THE STUPID. IT HURTS SO MUCH!
The apple A5 uses the same cores as the Exynos chip but has a less powerful PowerVR gpu. The cores are also 200MHz slower. The A5 is literally just a crippled Exynos, it can't be better.
The OMAP4460 is faster than the exynos, so it also beats out the A5. Go back to macrumors.
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Did u saw benchmark test ???
This is a stupid, unrelated thread about a rumor about a rumor of a phone. We know samsung are doing the next nexus, what's in it, who knows, but do we need another thread about the same old ****?
This is what the android general section is for.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
The iPhone 5 may well be sporting better hardware, but there is a reason for this, its called evolution. Newer phones tend to have better hardware to entice customers to purchase. If this wasnt the case id still be using my nokia 3210 (heaven forbid). The SGS2 is bordering 6 month old which is like years in technology. There is always something better round the corner.
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Benchmarks

OK, owners of Flex 2 please run some benches, at least Antutu , but it better to run some more from that topic
What does bench marks do or show?
mine
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yellowman82 said:
What does bench marks do or show?
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Go troll somewhere on reddit
Billy Madison said:
Go troll somewhere on reddit
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That's the best that you got? And reason I'm asking is because well i really don't know much about benchmark except that the device with the higher e-penis numbers is maybe the best device and since most folks say benchmarks barely means anything as long as real world usage and performance is great. But hey if you need some e-penis numbers i can show you mines when i get the device lol.
Benchmarks show how much SoC power you got. We're to the point where hardware isn't a problem for UI smoothness, but the software. Android still has scrolling frame drops, and the only way I fixed it was making the min CPU freq to at least 1.19ghz. You can optimize a phone as much as you want to the point where it's the smoothest in UI, but I know for a fact you wouldn't like it when things like emulators/rendering a video to a smaller resolution/heavy gaming/extracting and compressing performance is slower than other phones. The day and age where benchmarks (Quadrant/Linpack) don't matter are over, they do now. Now you should take Antutu with a grain of salt, but Geekbench/GFXBench will show what your device is truly capable of. It's like you're given two PCs with identical hardware (SSD/High end GPU etc) but the CPU in one is an Intel Pentium G3258 and the other is a 4690K. They'll both perform just fine in the OS, only way to find out is with reliable benchmarks.
i heard lg g flex 2 have snapdragon 810.. and i have a question
snapdragon 810 (gflex2,minotepro,) vs tegra K1 64bit(nexus 9), which more better(antutu benchmark score)?
snapdragon 810 usually have 50k+ antutu score
i have z1 compact with 41k antutu benchmark, the normal benchmark is 30k-35k
lg g flex 2 antutu score can be different, but usually is 50K+
sorry newbie :crying:
silentroom said:
i heard lg g flex 2 have snapdragon 810.. and i have a question
snapdragon 810 (gflex2,minotepro,) vs tegra K1 64bit(nexus 9), which more better(antutu benchmark score)?
snapdragon 810 usually have 50k+ antutu score
i have z1 compact with 41k antutu benchmark, the normal benchmark is 30k-35k
lg g flex 2 antutu score can be different, but usually is 50K+
sorry newbie :crying:
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I personally prefer the snapdragon 810 chip, but the tegra K1 is also a very nice chip, the core frequency just not as nice as the 810..
Just my personal opinion
yellowman82 said:
since most folks say benchmarks barely means anything as long as real world usage and performance is great
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Some ppl agree with your position. And it's fine. You may not care for benchmarks at all. But some other ppl do care, like this example. So, benchmarks can show problems in software implementation of kernel CPU government. Or problems with hardware implementation of proper CPU cooling, like example. And some ppl may want to not pay for such software or hardware crippled devices, it's there choice, they vote by there money and demand vendors to pay proper attention to engineering
High on Android has his up on YouTube.
The Korean model scored 41276 on 64bit then 37754 on 32bit out of the box.
This was my first. Second, third, and fourth were slightly lower, but nothing has been under 50k so far. Every test was run side by side against my Nexus 6 and the Flex 2 beat it every time. This baby really flies. Here's to hoping it gets some strong Dev support!
G Flex 2 is available now where?
lopri said:
G Flex 2 is available now where?
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Good afternoon, no... it will be available on the market starting from 2th March. It has only sent to major carriers.
wolfgart said:
mine
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I got higher than that on Moto Maxx with an 805
zombioptic said:
This was my first. Second, third, and fourth were slightly lower, but nothing has been under 50k so far. Every test was run side by side against my Nexus 6 and the Flex 2 beat it every time. This baby really flies. Here's to hoping it gets some strong Dev support!
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what is youre SOC revision ? ( use CPU-Z app )
like this :
MEGAX91 said:
what is youre SOC revision ? ( use CPU-Z app )
like this :
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Mine is...
jongilluley said:
Mine is...
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i thought , Snapdragon 810 lithography is 20 nm !!!!
since when snapdragon 810 use krait 450 architecture !!!
MEGAX91 said:
i thought , Snapdragon 810 lithography is 20 nm !!!!
since when snapdragon 810 use krait 450 architecture !!!
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That is what i thought as well. Supposed to be 20nm instead of 28nm like the 805.
Here is my first Antutu bench. 16GB Silver european model (H955)...
Not very bad, at the same level of HTC One M9...
http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.co....png?key=UDgIAwmmRRaOPjLGlvUUiQ&ts=1426441144
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That is what i thought as well. Supposed to be 20nm instead of 28nm like the 805.
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Its weird as it should be 20nm but never shows ut no matter what i do haha.
Tried a couple of other apps and they are the same. One app tells me that its revision 2 of the cpu so maybe some changes are being made for heat issues etc? But i cant find anything and im getting good benchmark scores each and everytime with no lagging or throttling yet.
And speeds are good on benchmarks and are running in 64bit mode on antutu so im happy hehe.

I MIGHT HAVE THE RAREST TABLET EVER ON MY HANDS! HELP PLEASE!!!

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Hello guys and gals, well this is the deal, i have a tablet with some moderately good specs in my opinion atleast when i first got it, but...i think it comes with a really bad optimization because my good ol' sm-t113nu tablet is way faster with a lot more apps installed and a warning of low space permanently in my notifications.
I've had amazing results with Gabboxl's fortuna3g custom rom, so i decided to try and mess around with my tablet to get a bit more out of it, but i couldn't find anything about it, you see, this is a tablet i got as part ofa goverment program in my school, but i know it has got to be a modified tablet that's commercialy available elsewhere, so i got cpu-z running, and oh my, please help me bros, is this tablet based on something else that might have a little bit more support?, what can i do to exploit a little bit more this hardware? would greatly appreciate if anyone takes a look if you recognize these info from another device.
*OVERVIEW*
DITECMA M0192R(rk3368_64) 64bits???
RK3368 8x(OCTA-CORE) ARM Cortex-A53 @ 1.20GHz
governor interactive
64bit???
RK30sdk board
kernel architerture aarch64(that's gotta be 64bit right?)
I noticed something strange aswell, all 8cores are active and sitting at 216MHz when idle, that seemed a little weird but whatever, then i touched the screen, ALL 8 OF THEM WENT UP at 1200MHz, like, wait a minute, does this kernel not have a little.BIG configuration?, shouldn't only four of these go up? if a device is running two sets of cores each set of different speeds at once all the time, wouldn't that result in slowdowns?
guys i really want your advice and input here, i would be eternally grateful.
8 core processors use two different type of cores, four of one type and four of another. Four of the cores are high performance and four of the cores have better efficiency. What happens is that the underlying OS, here Android, picks the best processor core for the job to be done. If it is a background task that is just checking your email, there is no need to use the high performance core. Network connections have lots of latency and there will be lots of waiting around and little actual processing. However if you start playing a game then a high performance core is needed.
This type of arrangement is what is known as heterogeneous multi-processing, where not every core is the same. To make it work the scheduler in Android OS needs to understand that the cores have different characteristics and it assigns tasks to the cores according to those characteristics.
ARM’s heterogeneous model is called big.LITTLE. In an 8 core big.LITTLE setup the cores are arranged in two clusters. One cluster has four Cortex-A57 or Cortex-A72 cores, powerful cores with lots of processing ability. And one cluster has four Cortex-A53 cores, still a 64-bit processor, still very capable, but more power efficient and often clocked at a lower clock speed. Chip makers don’t need to stick with 4+4, they can in fact pick lots of variations, like 2+4 (dual-core Cortex-A57 and quad-core A53) as with the Snapdragon 808.
Running all 8 cores at once at their full speed only leads to faster battery drain, may result in a automatic shutdown of device.
BTW:
Your device's CPU is 64-bit.
jwoegerbauer said:
8 core processors use two different type of cores, four of one type and four of another. Four of the cores are high performance and four of the cores have better efficiency. What happens is that the underlying OS, here Android, picks the best processor core for the job to be done. If it is a background task that is just checking your email, there is no need to use the high performance core. Network connections have lots of latency and there will be lots of waiting around and little actual processing. However if you start playing a game then a high performance core is needed.
This type of arrangement is what is known as heterogeneous multi-processing, where not every core is the same. To make it work the scheduler in Android OS needs to understand that the cores have different characteristics and it assigns tasks to the cores according to those characteristics.
ARM’s heterogeneous model is called big.LITTLE. In an 8 core big.LITTLE setup the cores are arranged in two clusters. One cluster has four Cortex-A57 or Cortex-A72 cores, powerful cores with lots of processing ability. And one cluster has four Cortex-A53 cores, still a 64-bit processor, still very capable, but more power efficient and often clocked at a lower clock speed. Chip makers don’t need to stick with 4+4, they can in fact pick lots of variations, like 2+4 (dual-core Cortex-A57 and quad-core A53) as with the Snapdragon 808.
Running all 8 cores at once at their full speed only leads to faster battery drain, may result in a automatic shutdown of device.
BTW:
Your device's CPU is 64-bit.
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THANKS!!! THANKS FOR THE REPLY!!!
It does indeed automatically shutdown sometimes!, can you please give me some advice?, am a low end guy, so this tablet would be extremely handy if it worked as it should, how can i fix this?
(i should point out i've handled other devices from my classmates and they all have the same issue, so it isn't only my device)
Maybe you know somebody with ROM's for it?(it's pretty much a generic chinese tablet, but i can't find one for octa-core), maybe i can tweak the governor or something?
Again, THANKS a lot for answering
Guys you gotta see this!
I think my goverment might have overhauled an android mini-pc into a tablet, everything but the OS is exactly the same, from the board to the processor, to the ram, to the hdmi port, to the internal storage, graphic card, everything is the same, just take a look:
https://bermuda.desertcart.com/prod...r-2gb-ddr3l-ram-16gb-emmc-storage-android-8-1
It looks like they turned a Shuttle XPC Nano NS02A into a tablet with a giant screen
Can somebody please help me out in finding a rom for my tablet?, thus far there's plenty of devices that have the same processor, ram and board.
Here http://specdevice.com/showspec.php?id=624d-b51a-f780-bf1c0033c587&lang=es
It even shares the same 216 to 1200mhz range of my tablet, but i wonder what the number in RK**sdk is all about, could be api or something?
PLEASE HELP!!!.
Further Proof of Shuttle XPC Nano NS02A Overhaul
https://jeatech.com.au/file/13449/8604
Weirdly enough, the only difference i can find is the 16gb internal flash of NS02A compared to the 32gb of my tablet, here's the thing tho, cpu-z only recognizes 16gb...i dunno what to make of this, is it showing data of the XPC?
bros, please help me up
I think it's more likely based on the teclast P10, same specs, and apparently same display aswell
https://www.amazon.com.mx/Teclast-P10-Octa-10-1-inch-19201200-Rockchip-rk3368-h/dp/B07BMTTKJN
What do you guys think?, i've read the P10 pretty much has the same issue, somewhat decent hardware with a really poorly optimized OS

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