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Complain about "bad" benchmarks on Raphael/Diamond/X1/Blackstone? Check -> Asus P565
Hey !
I´m a happy Sony X1 User and have also owned a Raphael / Diamond / TyTN II / Tytn and more.
In the Raphael/Diamond/Blackstone/X1 Forums many people complain about the "bad" Benchmarks/Performance they get with their phones. Especially graphics-wise.
Sometime ago I heard about the new Asus P565 which is a Diamond-style Device (VGA, no keyboard, 2,8 inch Screen, few buttons, minimalistic design... ) but with a 800 Mhz Marvel CPU !
Since I owned several devices in the past I was interested in how this first "highend CPU" Device would do feel benchmark-like.
I searched the internet but got only one review from a chinese site
Some days ago it got available in Germany so.. I decided to buy and play with it. (I love gadgets )
What should I say... This device is performance-wise a dream come true !
I wish all of the above mentioned devices had this new CPU / graphicsdrivers inside...
You can play Games using Morphgear with Sound (on best settings ! 44.000 khz) and full screen flawlessly (any emulator). On the X1 you can do mostly the same when turning sound completly off and turning frameskipping ON.
Also you can use FPSEce 0.09.6 playing Playsation Games + Sound with a wopping 40-50 FPS (frames per second) ! Ridge Racer and Final Fantasy 7 run perfect now ! With my X1 or a Touch Pro you get 12-18 FPS and the games are mostly unplayable and unenjoyable.
I was blown away... Hopefully the next-gen devices from our favourite company will feature a performance like that too !
Wanna see some SPB Benchmark and -VS Benchmark 2007- results ?
Here we go :
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(Also available in the zip file below)
ALL Benchmarks are done using my own devices with the same performance tweaks and mostly the same software installed (making them comparable)
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Update 2009-01-05
I did also some Benchmarking with the newest SK-Tools.
Here we go :

The 800 Mhz Marvel CPU is very impressive. Only wish the P565 had a bigger screen. But the March 2009 Asus P835 Galaxy 7 will, and hopefully the same cpu!!

galaxys said:
The 800 Mhz Marvel CPU is very impressive. Only wish the P565 had a bigger screen. But the March 2009 Asus P835 Galaxy 7 will, and hopefully the same cpu!!
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Yeah, a 3,5 or 3,8 inch screen would be pretty nice !
But... The Galaxy 7 will feature only the same CPU as the X1 / Raphael and stuff... NOT a Marvell one...
Cant remember where but I read this on some Win Mobile News pages (MsMobiles/WMPoweruser etc.)
One more thing that bugs me with the Galaxy is that it will "feature" a scroll ball instead of a D-Pad. Iiiiih.
-> Not good for playing games.

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Asus-P835-phone-p_3332.html
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* Windows Mobile Professional; 6.1 Professional
# Processor
* Qualcomm MSM 7200A, 528 MHz
# Memory
* 256 MB RAM / 256 MB ROM
http://www.itechnews.net/2008/12/18/asus-p835-galaxy-7-pda-phone/
. The Asus P835 Galaxy 7 is powered by Qualcomm MSM7200A 528MHz processor, 256MB of RAM, and 256MB ROM. There is also 4GB flash storage.

well at least there's hope for quality drivers (not the crap that HTC accepts from qualcomm.)

Thanks for validating the point I made that the ASUS xscale is very fast without a GPU or FPU. Is the device any more expensive than an equivalent Qualcomm device? It's nice it even has the SiRFIII GPS chip so it lasts probably at least 3x better on battery than the Qualcomm GPSone.
m.carroll said:
well at least there's hope for quality drivers (not the crap that HTC accepts from qualcomm.)
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Since it's a different CPU (Xscale same as Omnia) architecture, it is very difficult to hope for better drivers since some of it is probably optimized WMMX instructions available only to XScale.
Don't buy HTC/Qualcomm is the only sure way to avoid this headache.

anyone noticed that P565 despite all this top performance,
is absolute crap regarding the music score?
ONLY 370 for sound? for a high end device like this too bad...
what's wrong?

xeirwn said:
anyone noticed that P565 despite all this top performance,
is absolute crap regarding the music score?
ONLY 370 for sound? for a high end device like this too bad...
what's wrong?
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I noticed that too, but what does it really mean ?
You can hear music and stuff without problems with the P565...
Actually I thought lower=faster=better in this sound-benchmark...?
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I updated the first post. -> More Benchmark comparisons ! (SK-Tools)

xeirwn said:
anyone noticed that P565 despite all this top performance,
is absolute crap regarding the music score?
ONLY 370 for sound? for a high end device like this too bad...
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The Kaiser doesn't score that much better on the music score either and there's hasn't been much complaint about the Kaiser's music abilities (except for the crappy MIDI playback in my experience).

fards said:
The Asus P835 Galaxy 7 is powered by Qualcomm MSM7200A 528MHz processor, 256MB of RAM, and 256MB ROM. There is also 4GB flash storage.
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m.carroll said:
well at least there's hope for quality drivers (not the crap that HTC accepts from qualcomm.)
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since it's a qualcomm, it may have better drivers.
does the Asus have libgles_cm/l.dll support? This would make it the killer PDA!

Hi foto
I'm really interested in getting an ASUS 565 mainly for emulators, can you play landscape using dpad and mapping buttons to screen?
So im guessing FPSECE all games are payable? ? would be a dream come true!
Many thanks for your info!

hi there,i owned couple of wm devices in the past and let me put it this way:
asus has much better mainboards (they r genius ) so if you put same cpu in htc and asus pda ,the asus pda will win for sure ,no doubt.
marvell is another leage in cpu making ( i gave them the win since xda 2 mini,s100).
as we need more 2d performance (for the phone to feel fast and videoto run smooth ,fotos to load fast ....) ,qualcomm 528 cpu with graphic ship is fast as marvell cpu at 330.
3d performance is still mostly relying on cpu these days (dont know why qualcomm are so bad in this area even with there integrated 3d hardware ship.
i just go an xperia today,upgrading from a beast of power called asus p525.
my pda history
magician,wizard,universal,prophet,artemis,elf,xda flame (sold after 1 month ,too many issues) ,asus p525(my favorite) now se xperia x1

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E-Ten M800, a true HTC Kaiser killer? (Late November / Early December)

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/08/e-tens-glofiish-m800-a-better-x800-with-qwerty/
VGA 640 x 480 + Built-in QWERTY Keyboard + all HTC Kaiser features
As we noted back in March, the only thing missing from E-Ten's quad-band GSM, UMTS/HSDPA, and GPS packing Glofiish X800 was the QWERTY. No more. Meet the Glofiish M800, ready to throw down with the best that HTC has to offer when it hits Europe in late November / early December for about €599 (nearly $850 pre-subsidy). For that you get all the best of the X800 -- WinMo 6 Professional on a VGA (480 x 640) touchscreen, SiRFstar III GPS, HSDPA data, standard 2.5-mm audio jack -- but with a beefier 500MHz processor and 1530mAh battery and new suit-tacular QWERTY in tow. Without a doubt, a worthy contender... on paper anyway.
PS: I am not sure about the RAM, it could be 64 MB which HTC Kaiser is the winner here.
hope this will be as good as its specs.
this might me by next new phone.
It seems that many sites are asking the same question
Take this one for example:
http://www.pollsb.com/polls/poll/2739/eten-glofiish-m800-htc-s-tytn-ii-contender
I hope this would inspire HTC to release a better phone, preferably a clamshell device. This just blows everything they have right now.
Any news on the camera's resolution?
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IMHO, The specs are amazing on ETEN devices and the prices are actually pretty good but after using an HTC device it is hard to switch back to ETEN. I owned the ETEN M600 (Gave me trouble with the screen alignment) so I upgraded to a M600+ and used it for like a year. Then the M600+ got stolen so I upgraded to a Trinity, WOW what a world of difference. The build of the device is much better and the call quality is amazing compared to ETEN devices. So unless ETEN upgrades there standards then it will be a no go for me.
I heard that it's only 2MPix. And only 64MB RAM
Does the screen tilt? I doubt it or they would be shouting about it. May not seem like a huge issue, but it certainly adds a whole lot to the useability of the device, especially when it comes to using it to watch video, and especially if more than one person wants to watch.
Plus, the GPS on the Kaiser is better I think. It is A-GPS not GPS. I used to own a Sirfstar III GPS, and the Kaiser's seems better. Much faster fix too, but quite possibly integrated GPS with fastfix software would do the same thing for the M800 too.
The screen is a biggie though, I so wish the kaiser was VGA.
I hate the design though, looks cheap and nasty.
I had the X500+ which I sold recently. E-ten devices definitely give you the best bang for your bucks. But their support sucks, their device has a cheap-y feel to it, and their software is just not up to par. I loved the X500+, but with only 64MB of RAM, and all their crazy software that's a required install to get some of the features working, you end up with 15MB free after soft-reset. It was ridicules. I ended up running pure vanilla WM6 and it seemed little better.
I did hear about GPS failing here and there, but for me, at least the GPS was amazing. From my experience, all the A-GPS devices I've used tend to get quick fixes but lack in accuracy...and they tend to drift A LOT. X500+ had SiRF III, but it also had satellite info download function to help you fix really fast....best of both worlds basically.
From what I understand, E-ten's build quality is getting better each generation, so M800 might be something worth waiting for....as long as it has at least 128MB of RAM.
Since the X800, they've changed to another manufacturer, so we should see improved build quality. By the way the X800 is quite thin too, and I am guessing the M800 will be thinner than the Kaiser.
Hopefully I am getting the X800 in a week or so! (If the screen is transflective).
wywywywy said:
Since the X800, they've changed to another manufacturer, so we should see improved build quality. By the way the X800 is quite thin too, and I am guessing the M800 will be thinner than the Kaiser.
Hopefully I am getting the X800 in a week or so! (If the screen is transflective).
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Actually, I believe the very reason they sped up the M800 into production was that they were ditching the X800.
also, processor wise we stil don't know which is faster. VGA drains a bit on graphics and battery, so I'm neutral on that. camera I heard is only 2MPix no AutoFocus. I also heard it's only 64 RAM, and not a chance in hell I'm getting 64RAM. besides, touchflo and tilting screen, despite my initial thoughts, actually helps usage.
For me 128 MB RAM is more important than a VGA though I would like to have both. In the present times when websites have become complicated and memory hog programs such Opera 8.65 I think there is no place for a 64 MB RAM device. I am already suffering 64 MB with my HTC Touch where I almost daily do a soft reset to get back my RAM otherwise some programs fail to run.
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comparison with x800
and others at HPC.ru
Yeap... comparison with its keyboardless, much better looking little brother.
I must say, I really really like the look of the X800 over the M800. Why didn't they just add a full keyboard to the x800?
WOW! A mind reader.
Haha the X800 has been delayed again...
What is it now? The 12th time its been delayed?
Maybe its like the iMate Ultimates... just vapourwares.
Inkino has 3 of X800 in stock today, if anyone is interested.
PDA Essentials magazine has put these devices head to head and came down in favour of the Kieser
TheBrit said:
PDA Essentials magazine has put these devices head to head and came down in favour of the Kieser
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Including the M800?
What categories were compared?

Anyone recommend a VGA replacement for my TyTN II??

Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone has had much experience trying to replace a TyTN II. I've been really please with it, but I don't really use the keyboard and would really love a VGA screen.
I've looked at the Eten X650 and X800 but the reviews are a bit mixed to say the least and I'm just not sure!
So has anyone made the switch from an HTC device to an Eten or i-mate etc successfully or any other similar phone? And found them to be useable?!?!
Any suggestions on a new model would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advanced,
Gadget.
You could look at the Touch Diamond. If you want a keyboard wait for the Touch Pro.
gadgetdude, similar situation here. Except I'm moving from a standard tytn to an I-mate 9502 and I need the keyboard. This is only day 2 in the switch for me, but I can say it's different. One big thing I miss is the lack of the great HTC apps like the home plugin, audio manager, and task manager. That hurts. Also, I gotta say, while the VGA is good for browsing and makes the fonts look great, it's kinda of a waste on a 2.8" screen.
This phone is a little quirky compared to the tytn, but it has some good points. I'll probably be using it until the X1 comes out. Good luck.
Now with all the VGA devices coming out, I would have thought someone would have converted the original HTC home to fit VGA. I know there is currently a version out there that works but it makes every so damn small. Imagine how the original HTC would look in VGA if it fit to the screen lke the QVGA version does.
More info...
Thanks dudes for all you're input.
Still not sure tho - the Touch Pro looks rather cool! And I guess it'll have proper VGA versions of the HTC software?!
Has anyone got any opinions on the 'joystick' control on the Eten X800 or X650 though? I'm still not convinced whether it'll be a real pain or not!
Cheers dudes!
Have you looked at the tosh g900?
This actually has the highest res screen on any windows mobile device (to my knowledge) at 800x480. Its gorgeous for browsing and looking at pictures/photo's etc. It can be a bit slow when rotating orientation but thats the only time.
The original firmware was VERY buggy and so it built up a reputation according to this - bear in mind though, it was brand new and early adoption should expect issues. This reputation is now unfounded imho. Since firmware 3.01 and above, its rock solid and I never have to reboot mine.
This is what I do on mine without any issues/crashes:
Today screen extra's -
HTC X-Button,
SPB Weather,
SPB Backup,
Rhinocode Launch Pro,
Corner-A PDA Status
Other apps installed and working -
Saman SMSDeliveryReceiptFix
Micromega MSS Converter
ZoomSMS
YouTube Player
OneNote (although, this wont pull notes FROM the PC but will push TOO the pc)
MS Voicecommand
Google Maps
Route66 (sadly, the only Satnav i've found to work correctly with its high res screen)
Oh something else this phone did first, afaik, was to have a USB hub in it! You wont believe how handy it is to plug in USB storage devices (right up to external 3.5" disks!) at work to move stuff around.
The fingerprint security/program launcher is excellent - wish more phones had it! I also use the phone constantly on 3g/hsdpa as a modem for my pc and browse the web loads. I've had to buy a 3000mamp battery which makes the phone a bit bulky but to be fair, i don't think there are many people who are as heavy users as me. I also have configured a mail2web push email and a couple of pop 3 accounts.
BUT I am getting rid for two reasons:
No built in GPS
camera is w*&k
I am waiting for the Samsung I900 Omnia which is released any day now here in England.
Samsung http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=samsung+i900&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Tosh http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=tosh+g900&meta=
I had the eten M800 and the joystick was ok. It made it abit larger when in your pocket. Personally I like the joystick on the imate 8502. This joystick is the best I've used yet buty personally I like the 5-way pad over any joystick.
If screen resolution is a top priority, then take a look at Sony Xperia X1, it does have a physical keyboard but has a WVGA screen, thats 800 by 480. It's designed by HTC and marketed by Sony Ericsson, so best of both worlds.
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If screen resolution is a top priority, then take a look at Sony Xperia X1, it does have a physical keyboard but has a WVGA screen, thats 800 by 480. It's designed by HTC and marketed by Sony Ericsson, so best of both worlds.
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and also not out until end of this year/early next year(?) .... continualy delayed product. By the time it comes out its going to be old. Compared to the G900 it offers very little extra and the G900 was out almost a year ago (and so has had all the bugs ironed out of it, something a brand new product will not be able to claim), specialy a Windows Mobile device.
you can also wait for the futur Toshiba G920 or G910
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more informations http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=998&id2=999
but i thought there is a bounty for whoever to unlock the video processor within the tytn ii or tilt that is not being used at all...if someone is able to show us how to make use of that wouldnt that improve the resolution plus 3d games?
jtoyz2 said:
... unlock the video processor within the tytn ii or tilt that is not being used at all......
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Sadly thats the case with a lot of phones. A great many smartphones out there have this issue. For example, my G900 has the Nvidia chipset in it but it aint used properly, and with an 800x480 screen, it would make a massive diference.
Why, oh why do they not give them drivers?
its not just phone company i remember the psp was like that as well...originally was a faster processor but they blocked it...off topic...anyways i seen a video of someone tapping into the graphic chip on the tytn ii maybe there is still hope...
Thanks for all the input on this.
In the end after much soul searching (well, phone searching, anyway!) I decided to go for the new Touch Diamond. Seems to fit what I'm after the most.
It's arriving tomorrow and I can't wait!!
Gadgetdude,
You have PM
WB

graphic card on msm7227 same as snapdragon qsd8650

msn7227 has same graphic processor as snapdragon QSD8650 (AMD z430)
here the proof
msm7227:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/resultdetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro11&resultid=9480443&D=LGE
QSD8650:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/resultdetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro11&resultid=9334470&D=LG GW820
thats very good for the upcoming 7227 devices..
lol
Do this mean that the Drivers for example from Leo must to work on Blackstone too?
tsalta said:
lol
Do this mean that the Drivers for example from Leo must to work on Blackstone too?
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no i dont think so ...
blackstone has msm7201a that has the old generation graphics Q3Dimension MSM7500W
and the msm7227 ,Snapdragon QSD8250 B and QSD8650 has AMD z430 .
i am waiting for the msm7227 3d benchmarks to how good are they really..
hm interesting... I thought before that MSM7227, like MSM7225, have not ATI inside at all.
Cotulla said:
hm interesting... I thought before that MSM7227, like MSM7225, have not ATI inside at all.
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i think qualcomm will not say that msm7227 has AMD Z430 ,not to effect snapdragon party.
sx1-doc said:
i think qualcomm will not say that msm7227 has AMD Z430 ,not to effect snapdragon party.
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It wouldn't affect it. Snapdragon has faster CPU and supports 720p video where 7227 supports only WVGA and has 600mhz ARM11 CPU.
They're in completely different leagues.
MSM7227 also have VFP (floating point unit) like 8250.
not sure how fast MSM7227 will be, but 8250 is really fast
Cotulla said:
MSM7227 also have VFP (floating point unit) like 8250.
not sure how fast MSM7227 will be, but 8250 is really fast
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i totally agree with you,but as i know msm7227 is a lowend CPU that have the goodies of highend CPU ,and trust me 600 mhz cpu +AMD 430 + good Drivers should deliver enough power to rum xp or even ubuntu with good speed.
let microsoft stop whining about WM7 requirement with 1ghz cpu and all the crap,just piss me of.
sx1-doc said:
i totally agree with you,but as i know msm7227 is a lowend CPU that have the goodies of highend CPU ,and trust me 600 mhz cpu +AMD 430 + good Drivers should deliver enough power to rum xp or even ubuntu with good speed.
let microsoft stop whining about WM7 requirement with 1ghz cpu and all the crap,just piss me of.
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Do you even know what you're talking about?
MSM7227 is nothing more than upgraded MSM7201 which is by many users considered piece of sh*t.
Compared to qsd8250 it is nothing but low end.
Besides 600mhz ARM11 CPU can't compete with any higher end device, so making it a minimum for WP7S would be pointless, especially considering the timeframe.
So stop whining. I don't see people whining about ipad having 1Ghz CPU...
Other way around. If MS would make lower minimum requirements people would complain that they are not competitive where others use better parts.
P.S. You can't run XP on it! XP is x86 based not ARM based so there is no way you could run it.
For ubuntu I would recommend something faster than 600mhz...
Maybe it's not fast enough for ubuntu or Win7 or whatever, but thanks for that info. HTC just put out the Legend, an android device, which is supposed to supersede the HTC Hero. From what we've seen there was nothing substantial to differentiate the 2 (apart from a dozen of Mhz clockspeed and some ram), but this is quite substancial news to us
it feels like wm7 will be hacked ,ported to the current devices in a way or another(time will tell).
let me say one more thing ,what i meant that msm7227 doesn't seem so bad as it has been describe on couple of web pages .
i didnt try to compare snapdragon power to msm7227 ,all i want do say that they have the same graphic processor (and thats a good push).
sx1-doc said:
it feels like wm7 will be hacked ,ported to the current devices in a way or another(time will tell).
let me say one more thing ,what i meant that msm7227 doesn't seem so bad as it has been describe on couple of web pages .
i didnt try to compare snapdragon power to msm7227 ,all i want do say that they have the same graphic processor (and thats a good push).
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To port WP7 you need drivers. We don't have them. To make drivers you need band of developers spending their free time trying to write them all by themselves or at best trying to port drivers from newer devices.
Only device which could probably/maybe run WP7 is HD2. End of story.
Don't fool yourself thinking that WP7 will be ported for old QVGA devices or even newer devices like Diamond, X1 or even HD(Blackstone) and not just because of MS but because ODM don't want to invest in old devices when they can invest in newer(which they can then sell and get some profit from it). End of story.
About msm7227. It's not bad. It is what msm7201 should be from the beginning but unfortunately now it is nothing more than mid class.
Of course this chipset has a less performant cpu than the snapdragon, but since they have the same gpu they will offer equal 3d performance. My demo here shows that the HD2 is very powerfull when it comes to extensive per-pixel calculations. The demo uses the gpu as much as possible, the speed of the cpu doesn't matter. So I think that my demo might run even faster on the HD mini than on the HD2, since it has less that half that much pixels compared to the HD2. We'll see
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Epic fail
All i have to say is -Mytouch 3g slide-. this entire thread is one "Epic fail" of, well , i guess some sort of debate of wits. The MTS has the ARM 600 and it is BEAST!!!! Say what you will about this comment but the fact remains that this phone has proven you all wrong. Cheap, low-end, crap..... none of it true when HTC and Android 2.1 combined to use this hardware and created this device...
$h4m3 0/\/ +h3 (_)/\/1337 h4xx0r

iPhone 5 and A6 faster than ALL Android devices?

http://hexus.net/mobile/news/apple/45293-iphone-5s-a6-processor-detailed-benchmarked/
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1601 points? Fastest phone in the world?
Step aside.
It does look like the iphone 5 will be the fastest smartphone (not going by the graph there but just the tech. of the chipset, seems to be just like krait dual core but better). That android benchmark graph looks a bit of as well with regards to the nexus 7 etc. and the one S.......and it is only one test as well and the source isn't exactly the best.......
Wait till anandtech or/and gsmarena get a full set of benchmarks up and they can be trusted.
As I posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31643039&postcount=14
The HTC one XL/S are the fastest android devices and are faster than the nexus 7.
1601 points?
Lol yup, been completely reworked the graph to show the iphone 5 as being the best, what a surprise.........
Galaxy S3 benchmark scores;
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1036570
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1036389
Again though, only one benchmark test, wait for more (better/accurate ones).
Wait for the LG Optimus G... The quad core Krait will most likely best the iPhone as well based on preliminary benchmark results.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1038700
ill stick with the one S. plus apples go bad really quickly lol
Are there any games that htc one s can't play smoothly? Something like dead trigger?
All hype, no substance.
Sorry my english is not perfect does hype means every thing without any lag?
Does one s have any bugs? Ever had any problems with it? Is one s better than xperia s? Any problems with pentile screen?
I love my One S. No issues except for the fact that I really hate Sense and hence I wipe it all out and flash CM10 nightlies. And yes, the One S outperforms the Xperia thanks to the Adreno 225 (Xperia S has the 220) and MSM8260A
How can I check the version of my cpu s3 or s4. Where does htc sell snapdragon s4 version and where doesn't?
krsk77 said:
Sorry my english is not perfect does hype means every thing without any lag?
Does one s have any bugs? Ever had any problems with it? Is one s better than xperia s? Any problems with pentile screen?
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hype:
Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion
2. Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material: "It is pure hype, a gigantic PR job" (Saturday Review).
3. An advertising or promotional ploy: "Some restaurant owners in town are cooking up a $75,000 hype to promote New York as 'Restaurant City, U.S.A.'" (New York).
4. Something deliberately misleading; a deception: "[He] says that there isn't any energy crisis at all, that it's all a hype, to maintain outrageous profits for the oil companies" (Joel Oppenheimer).
tr.v. hyped, hyp·ing, hypes
To publicize or promote, especially by extravagant, inflated, or misleading claims: hyped the new book by sending its author on a promotional tour.
krsk77 said:
Are there any games that htc one s can't play smoothly? Something like dead trigger?
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All games I have tried play smoothly on it.
Have dead trigger installed and settings to max and the game runs smoothly.
krsk77 said:
Sorry my english is not perfect does hype means every thing without any lag?
Does one s have any bugs? Ever had any problems with it? Is one s better than xperia s? Any problems with pentile screen?
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"Hype" definition:
Extravagant or intensive publicity or promotion.
i.e.
Promote or publicize (a product or idea) intensively, often exaggerating its importance or benefits.
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Better than xperia S except for the screen in terms of res. i.e. sharpness and real screen estate.
Only bugs are:
- signal issues in areas with poor coverage (supposedly fixed in latest update)
- majority of black models has chipping issues (fixed with a newer designed model, has smoother edges and a bevelled USB port)
My only complaints with the S are:
- crap notification LED
- poor support from HTC so far
Other people have problem with these:
- pentile screen (IMO only noticeable on certain icons and when really concentrating on the edges of icons/text)
- limited storage (10GB for videos, photos etc. and 2.21GB for apps)
Here is anandtech's view on the screen:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
So it has 14gb for use right? So if I understand you, you said that I can only install 2gigs of games and don't have the possibility to instaal 7gb or 5gb of games?
Wait to release of the iPhone 5 and after few months new android devices will be released new alternatives etc.
So it has 14gb for use right? So if I understand you, you said that I can only install 2gigs of games and don't have the possibility to instaal 7gb or 5gb of games?
Yes, you have just over 14GB for use.
You can install those games like NOVA etc. and iirc the actual base files are stored on the larger 10GB partition, you can also move apps etc. over to the larger 10GB partition etc. via settings>apps>app you want to move
If you plan on installing all the big games like dead space, nova, GTA etc. then don't get the one S, get the GS 3 or GS 2 as they both have 16GB internal storage and a SD slot.
But I can replace games to 10gig partition so I think it enough space for shadow gun and few other games. I have 16gigs at the moment in my old xperia x8, 14gb for use and still have 5gigs free and I have a lot of ps1 games etc.
Sgs3 and s2 are ugly in my opinion.
One s is much faster then s2 and is comparable with s3
Being that the iphone 5 is several months newer than one s, one x, gs3, nexus 7,etc., wouldn't you expect it to be faster? And when the next round of android devices comes out in a few months, they will all be faster, too.
If the iphone 5 is not one of the fastest devices on the market when it comes out, that would be a pretty weak effort on apple's behalf!
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Cross-platform benchmarks are highly inaccurate. These scores mean nothing really, we'll never know how good the A6 chip is unless android is ported over to the iPhone 5.

Cube U35GT2 is a great low cost iPad mini alternative, Android style – Review

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Cube U35GT2 Review
When I found myself looking for a compact tablet I found a number of potential puchases in the 7 inch category before I ran across the 7.85” Cube U35GT2. I looked at the specs and couldn't believe the price. This tablet was an obvious iPad mini clone but had very similar hardware to my Pipo M9, which I still think is a great tablet. For $150 the Cube U35GT2 seemed like a real bargain. So does it's real world performance live up to it's appearance on paper. Let's have a look.
Spec overview
7.85 1024 x 768 IPS screen
Rockchip RK3188 processor with Mali 400MP4 GPU
2GB RAM
16GB storage with expansion slot
4000 mAh battery
Display
The U35GT2 has a 7.85 inch 1024 x 768 IPS display. The screen is actually quite good all things considered. Viewing angles are descent and it's fairly responsive. Anything more for resolution and I think it would have been too much of a draw on the battery and the GPU would start to struggle.
Software
The tablet comes with Android 4.1 and has been left pretty much as a stock experience. The included launcher isn't too bad and I actually used it instead of replacing it with something from the play store, which is rare for me. It does show a bit of sticking and lag but it's not enough to really complain about. The only issue I found with the ROM is occassionally everything would shift over to the left of the screen. It would sort itself out through normal use, but the bottom line is, it's not suppose to do that.
WiFi
Every device has it's Achilles heal and the WiFi is the Cube U35GT2 's weak spot. The WiFi doesn't suffer from dropouts but is fairly weak.
I tested the 2.4 Ghz WiFi by taking a reading right by the router. I took a second at the furthest point on the upstairs level, and a 3rd at the furthest point in the basement.
- 21 mbps at the router
-2 mbps upstairs level
- 2 mbps basement level
Speaker
The loudspeaker was ok but fairly quiet and thin sounding. It didn't sound bad, it just wasn't very full sounding. If the tablet is in close proximity, I would say it would be loud enough for any application. If you introduce distance, or a lot of background noise you could start to have issues.
Video Playback
I tested the tablets video capabilities using VLC player with a variety of movies, and by using HD YouTube clips, all of which worked flawlessly. The Mali 400MP4 handled itself very well but anything more than 720p would likely create problems.
Web browsing
I used both Maxthon and Dolphin browser to test the web browsing. There were no surprises here as the RK3188 worked just as well here as it does in my 10.1” Pipo M9. The only issues I encountered were once again related to weak WiFi, in the form of slow load times.
Cameras
Cameras in mid to low range tablets are usually a pretty sad affair, and the Cube U35GT2 is no exception. While they weren't as bad as I thought they would be, I wouldn't rely on these cameras to take pics that I would want to keep or show off.
Benchmarks
For tech that is about a year old the scores are still very acceptable. They are no longer anywhere near the upper echelon, but the soon to be released Rochchip RK3288 will see that rectified.
Antutu=19,325
Nenamark 2=63 fps
CPU Prime=2252
Vellamo
HTML 5=1524
Metal=519
Battery
The battery in the Cube U35GT2 does ok, but can easily be run down with heavy use.
I tested the battery by playing movies on it until the battery was under 10%. The on screen time was about 5.5 hours .
Gaming
Less intensive, basic video games like Flappy Bird, Subway Surfers, etc... run with no problems at all. Dead Trigger 2 and Asphalt 8 defaulted to mid range settings due to the Mali 400. At those settings the games ran fine with minimum lag in responsivness. The Mali 400 is certainly not a high end GPU and is much better suited for simple games. I'm glad to see Mediatek and Rockchip putting more of an emphasis on their GPU's in their upcoming products.
Conclusion
This iPad mini wannabe will surprise a lot of people,especially when you take into consideration that it only costs $150. Rockchip are not well known in North America, but after using their processors I can honestly say that I would feel cheated paying twice as much for big name tablets. The Cube U35GT2 has a nice thin feel to it, and is confortable to hold onto even for long periods of time. The software is solid even though it is dated. If you feel you need to update it, there are a few 4.2.2 ROM's available as it has some recognition and support.
Performance as a whole is very good as long as you don't stray too far away from your router.
I've never minded saving some money and still getting a product that works the way I need it to.
Thanks Cube.
Check out my full video review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yp_w8bqgys

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