Just got it about an hour ago. It's small and kinda cool looking.
Good things:
I like how it defaults to only playing the audio when it's actually docked, rather than just pairing when you're close to the dock. I was worried that it would be fighting with my bluetooth headphones. You can manually connect the bluetooth audio while not-docked by going into bluetooth settings.
Things I'd like to change:
1. I listen to mostly podcasts (via BeyondPod) and Pandora on my phone, which don't use the built-in media player. So, the shortcut on the clock app doesn't do anything for me. I'd like to disable the clock app or customize its buttons, or just change which app loads when the phone is docked. Any ideas on how to do this?
2. It doesn't really handle incoming calls gracefully while docked. If you answer the phone without undocking, it will not default to speakerphone (like the palm pre would). If you DO turn on speakerphone, it switches back to the phone speaker, which may or may not be what you want.
To be clear... you can play Pandora over the stereo if you go back to the app drawer or the Pandora widget and play from there, right?
oh yeah, all audio goes through the output, i'm just saying it's a bit annoying to have that clock app come up when I never want to use it.
I gotcha now... yeah, I can imagine. Although I will mostly be using the dock on my nightstand, so that's actually perfect for me. Seems that was their primary intended use of the dock...
Yeah, I'm using it at work and pumping the audio into my desktop. That way I have one set of headphones for computer and phone audio; I can keep listening to my podcasts where I left off, but I can also take OCS calls and so forth on the computer.
It's actually really nice that the dock sends the ringer and alerts through the audio-output because now I don't have to worry about bugging people around me with text message alerts, but I also don't have to adjust the ringer every time I leave my desk.
I understand others could be frustrated with this though. I think they should give you an option to leave the ringer on the phone and only send music to the audio-out.
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2. It doesn't really handle incoming calls gracefully while docked. If you answer the phone without undocking, it will not default to speakerphone (like the palm pre would). If you DO turn on speakerphone, it switches back to the phone speaker, which may or may not be what you want.
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Yes this gets me as well. It would be nice if the speaker phone went through the line out. I Have my dock hooked up to one of my laptops and from there pipe the sound into my headphones. I would like to be able to hit answer and use the microphone on the phone (in speaker phone mode) and listen through the piped audio of my headset. It is not a major problem but it is somewhat disappointing that there is not finer control over docked behavior
One thing I wanted to add (got mine today)...
You cannot place the phone in the dock while a case is on the phone.
I have the silicone case and thought I might be able to "carve" out the sides to make it work... but no go. Too thick.
It is not such a huge deal for the desktop dock, but I am concerned about the upcoming car dock. I don't really want to carry a "naked" phone.
Well I must say I am thoroughly disappointed with this dock. First thing I noticed, I'm listening to Pandora, I quit Pandora while it is on the dock and the phone is basically frozen for 30 seconds to a min. Not sure if that's common. But it does it every time on mine. Also, the audio quality is terrible out of the 3.5mm jack on the dock. I have my headphones there since I leave them connected at my work desk. It is drastically worse, quiet, tinny, no bass or mid. I don't want to have to connect my headphones every time I dock. All around this was a waste of 45 bucks.
Also to add it will backout fine to the clock screen, but not to the launcher screen.
Edit again, it is actually any app. If you back out to the launcher home screen not the clock the phone is in a perpetual state of locked up. Its not frozen but you cannot switch between screens ot do anything but go to the clock home screen.
I don't want to start an argument, but I often wonder why so many people use phone cases. You realize these phones are actually designed to be carried without a case right? They have engineers agonizing over every tenth of a mm in thickness, trying hundreds of different coatings to find the ones that look/feel good and (especially in the case of the nexus) are most resistant to scratching. Then people slap a big (often bulky and ugly) case on them and proceed to carry it around in their pocket or bag all the time where it wouldn't get damaged anyway.
I carried my touch cruise around for 2 years and sold it with barely a mark on it, and I even dropped it a couple times. My touch diamond 2 looks brand new after a good 6 months of hard use. The Nexus has a glass screen that can hardly be scratched if you try. Unless you're doing very different things with your phone, I don't think you need to worry much.
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I don't want to start an argument, but I often wonder why so many people use phone cases. You realize these phones are actually designed to be carried without a case right? They have engineers agonizing over every tenth of a mm in thickness, trying hundreds of different coatings to find the ones that look/feel good and (especially in the case of the nexus) are most resistant to scratching. Then people slap a big (often bulky and ugly) case on them and proceed to carry it around in their pocket or bag all the time where it wouldn't get damaged anyway.
I carried my touch cruise around for 2 years and sold it with barely a mark on it, and I even dropped it a couple times. My touch diamond 2 looks brand new after a good 6 months of hard use. The Nexus has a glass screen that can hardly be scratched if you try. Unless you're doing very different things with your phone, I don't think you need to worry much.
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I think the bigger worry is dropping the device. They aren't designed to resist scratching/breaking from a significant fall onto pavement/concrete. If you drop it 4+ feet onto concrete you are going to see some damage most likely. A case that's designed to absorb and dissipate shock will help to reduce damage in these instances - the same with a decent screen protector. Now, nothing is going to prevent all damage in some of these scenarios, but for a few bucks to get a bit more protection for a $500+ device is worth it for some people.
With that being said the Nexus One seems much better suited to live without a case for scratch resistance on both the screen and the body of the phone - far better than some of HTC's previous outings with their plastic cases and resistive screens that seemed to scratch quite easily.
Now, I've had some phones fall onto the pavement and they incurred only cosmetic damage. Outside of cracking the glass screen I don't see the Nexus One faring any worse from a fall, but people don't like cosmetic damage either and the skins or thin TPU cases will aid in distributing force from impact and protect the device from scratches/dings for small impacts.
yeah, no doubt there are a few situations where damage could be avoided with a case, but I guess I think of them like those bras people put on the front of their cars. They used to be a lot more popular, then they kinda died out, even though it's certainly still very common for your front bumper to incur damage. I think people just decided it's not worth having the pretty car if you're covering it up all the time. The same goes for putting plastic on your furniture. I don't want to put up with a bulkier device from day 1 just so I can take off the case 3 years from now and see a mint but obsolete device hiding under it. To each their own, of course.
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Well I must say I am thoroughly disappointed with this dock. First thing I noticed, I'm listening to Pandora, I quit Pandora while it is on the dock and the phone is basically frozen for 30 seconds to a min. Not sure if that's common. But it does it every time on mine. Also, the audio quality is terrible out of the 3.5mm jack on the dock. I have my headphones there since I leave them connected at my work desk. It is drastically worse, quiet, tinny, no bass or mid. I don't want to have to connect my headphones every time I dock. All around this was a waste of 45 bucks.
Also to add it will backout fine to the clock screen, but not to the launcher screen.
Edit again, it is actually any app. If you back out to the launcher home screen not the clock the phone is in a perpetual state of locked up. Its not frozen but you cannot switch between screens ot do anything but go to the clock home screen.
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Seraph or anyone else... are you having these problems as well? If this is widespread, I'll rethink getting this dock.
I am hoping it is just me so I can send it back for RMA.
Am I not supposed to be using my headphones on the jack on the dock? That was also my question.
Also you have to make sure not to bump your desk too hard or touch the phone because if it moves in the dock it loses its connection and turns bluetooth off and then your music starts playing through the phones speaker lol. I think overall this thing is no good. I may ebay mine
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Also you have to make sure not to bump your desk too hard or touch the phone because if it moves in the dock it loses its connection and turns bluetooth off and then your music starts playing through the phones speaker lol. I think overall this thing is no good. I may ebay mine
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Something doesn't sound right there....I can literally rock my desk (probably not good for the legs >.>) and it doesn't disconnect - although I've got 2x 24" widescreen monitors that seem like they are getting ready to tip.
Lifting the device from the dock physically does disconnect the audio, but the music player pauses immediately to prevent the music from playing over the phone's speaker until I manually hit play again. Are you using the stock music player?
A quick lift in and out does not cause a disconnect for me, it takes a few seconds (~2 seconds) or being out of the dock to disconnect and pause the music (e.g if I lift it for 1s and then put it back down it doesn't disconect and continues playing audio through BT the entire time). The same if I rock it in the dock manually.
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Am I not supposed to be using my headphones on the jack on the dock? That was also my question.
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I don't see any issues that would be caused by using headphones with it...they seem to work just fine.
Well mine initially pauses then a few seconds later pandora will start playing again. I am not sure about music in the android music application but with pandora thats my issue.i touched the home button or even i hold the phone down in the dock tight and adjust the volume and it disconnects.
I don't see any issues that would be caused by using headphones with it...they seem to work just fine.[/QUOTE]
Does the audio quality decrease on yours switching from headphone jack to the jack on the dock?
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Well mine initially pauses then a few seconds later pandora will start playing again. I am not sure about music in the android music application but with pandora thats my issue.i touched the home button or even i hold the phone down in the dock tight and adjust the volume and it disconnects.
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Using slacker radio i do see that it doesn't pause when it disconnects - it does take a few seconds out of the dock still for me for the audio to disconnect, a quick jarring or lift/replace doesn't seem to cause it to disconnect - but then it does play music through the phone speakers. The stock audio player doesn't do this (it pauses until manually resumed).
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I don't see any issues that would be caused by using headphones with it...they seem to work just fine.
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There is definitely a drop out of lows using the Dock (using my 10 yr old Sennheiser HD 535) compared to the audio jack on the phone itself.
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I think the bigger worry is dropping the device. They aren't designed to resist scratching/breaking from a significant fall onto pavement/concrete. If you drop it 4+ feet onto concrete you are going to see some damage most likely. A case that's designed to absorb and dissipate shock will help to reduce damage in these instances - the same with a decent screen protector. Now, nothing is going to prevent all damage in some of these scenarios, but for a few bucks to get a bit more protection for a $500+ device is worth it for some people.
With that being said the Nexus One seems much better suited to live without a case for scratch resistance on both the screen and the body of the phone - far better than some of HTC's previous outings with their plastic cases and resistive screens that seemed to scratch quite easily.
Now, I've had some phones fall onto the pavement and they incurred only cosmetic damage. Outside of cracking the glass screen I don't see the Nexus One faring any worse from a fall, but people don't like cosmetic damage either and the skins or thin TPU cases will aid in distributing force from impact and protect the device from scratches/dings for small impacts.
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very well said. i would hate to drop my $570 dolla gadget without a case on it. at least with a case i have a 50/50 chance of it not getting damaged or less damaged as bad as it would without one.
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Looks like this is just not such a prominent issue (but may be related to the 'headphone jack buzz') but here it is - even when positively connected, movement of the headphone connector causes the signal to either crackle or the headphones icon to disappear completely, as if I had removed the headphones. I initially thought that perhaps the 3.5mm jack I was using was not seating deep enough into the phone, but after taking the top cover off to make sure that was not the case, it seems to happen anyway.
Previous to this phone, I had an HTC EVO 4G, in which case some of those phones had a similar problem. There was a fix however, where you could dig into the phone a little and find a small copper flap that needed to be bent so that the connection between it and the plug itself was much more secure. Does such a surgery exist for the One S? I searched here but nothing much came up, except for the buzz issue with would seem to be more of an HTC screwup with grounding than something to do with the connection.
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Looks like this is just not such a prominent issue (but may be related to the 'headphone jack buzz') but here it is - even when positively connected, movement of the headphone connector causes the signal to either crackle or the headphones icon to disappear completely, as if I had removed the headphones. I initially thought that perhaps the 3.5mm jack I was using was not seating deep enough into the phone, but after taking the top cover off to make sure that was not the case, it seems to happen anyway.
Previous to this phone, I had an HTC EVO 4G, in which case some of those phones had a similar problem. There was a fix however, where you could dig into the phone a little and find a small copper flap that needed to be bent so that the connection between it and the plug itself was much more secure. Does such a surgery exist for the One S? I searched here but nothing much came up, except for the buzz issue with would seem to be more of an HTC screwup with grounding than something to do with the connection.
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Very nice, allready thought only I had the problem :-x
Gonna send my phone to HTC soon anyway, lets see if they can fix it...
It burns me that stuff like this, which I would consider very important, never seems to come out in the 40 or so 'FIRST REVIEW's all over the web when the device is handed out to reviewers.
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It burns me that stuff like this, which I would consider very important, never seems to come out in the 40 or so 'FIRST REVIEW's all over the web when the device is handed out to reviewers.
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We'll, the phone has been out for months and this is the first I've heard of this. I've had problems with some super cheap headphones, but reasonably quality jacks always work. Don't extrapolate from small samples.
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It burns me that stuff like this, which I would consider very important, never seems to come out in the 40 or so 'FIRST REVIEW's all over the web when the device is handed out to reviewers.
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I'm pretty sure manufacturers try hard to cherry pick the best of the bunch when sending out review units. Look at reviews for the lg g2x. Look how that turned out when consumers finally got their hands on it
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We'll, the phone has been out for months and this is the first I've heard of this. I've had problems with some super cheap headphones, but reasonably quality jacks always work. Don't extrapolate from small samples.
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You call Sennheiser-Headphones cheap ?
I tested 6 different ones and the problem persists on all of them
So I use the FM tuner... a lot. Like 5 days a week 4 - 7 hrs a day and then some on the weekends whenever I'm working in the garage or out hiking around. As such I find it is incredibly hard to find headphones that work with our phone. Sure any set of 3.5mm jacks will work but it doesn't take much to disconnect the FM Tuner and depending on what FM Tuner app you're using really changes what results of that jostling. A lot of headphones, especially the straight jack style are nearly incompatible. Just walking is enough to create the disconnect. It's almost like I can't get the plug in all the way but the thing is bottomed out when I look at it. Fixing it usually involves a short unplug and reinsert then waiting for the FM Tuner app to reactivate. However depending on the headphones being used this could work for 5min or 5s (and lately it seems to be the latter more and more often). I do have much greater success when using 90 degree plugs, although lately even with that I've been using a rubber band to sure that the plug isn't being tugged and disconnecting.
So I'm wondering if anyone else has had similar issues, I kind of wonder if maybe I got some lint in there or something but I use an otterbox with the nice silicon plugs that covers the jack up when not in use so that seems like a stretch.
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I meant reply but oops you get a thanks! Bonus!
I use an FM tuner (both from Sense ROMs and CM7) and have not had the issues you've described. I don't use it nearly as frequently as yourself though as it sounds progressive it's likely not a manufacturer defect. I'd vote something wrong with the jack whether blockage or HW wearing out.
Try cleaning it.
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I meant reply but oops you get a thanks! Bonus!
I use an FM tuner (both from Sense ROMs and CM7) and have not had the issues you've described. I don't use it nearly as frequently as yourself though as it sounds progressive it's likely not a manufacturer defect. I'd vote something wrong with the jack whether blockage or HW wearing out.
Try cleaning it.
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Use a q-tip and rubbing alcohol of you are gonna clean it. I've never had those issues either. I use mine every day, mine is a little sensitive, a small tug will stop the music but not near as bad as you are experiencing.
I had this same issue on a friends Shift. After a lot of trial and error, we figured out that it was the Tip of the Headphone Jack. It was too long in some cases. So we started to compare a bunch of them. What we found was really weird, but interesting. It seems there is no continuity between Headphone Manufacturers as to how long the Tip of the Jack is. Some were as much as an 1/8" longer. Which is an issue because the jack never seats. So it will pop out at odd times. Basically what we did to solve the issue in his case was find one that worked, and seated well in the socket. Then we measured it, and filed down one of the ones that didn't work correctly. As soon as we did that it was all good. But beware some of the cheaper ones also distorted the sound after we did that. In a few cases we were able to solve that by smoothing the end with progressively finer sand paper. But it was a lot of work. Much easier to just buy the correct size. Just wanted to share a bit of info. Hope that helps .
I have had a problem like this in the past too. For me it was the brand of headphone jack that I was using. I found that some plugs were not going in far enough and contact was not being maintained. Also, make sure your case, if you have one on, is not preventing the plug from inserting all the way.
Prboy is right on. I have also had to file down some of my headphones. Careful not to get em too short though if you do.
Still haven't gotten around to trying any of these suggestions. Working for a brown clad shipping company gets kinda hectic in December.
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People and der boxes.
One of the main reasons I bought a Z3 is because it is apparently dust and water resistant, this is a big plus working in construction, but the fact these phones have recieved IP ratings is a joke. I had my z3 sitting at the side of the shower playing music, it wasn't recieving direct flow of water just droplets splashing on to it. I now have a crackly, low volume speaker. Waterproof my ass.
Have the phone drying out now but I don't expect it to rectify itself. What are my options here?
This issue has been discussed countless times... just let it dry. It'll come back to normal.
its actually water filling up around the speakers and takes a bit to dry out, quite common with waterproof speakers. all my previous sony phones have done this when they get wet, give it 30 minutes or so. dont sweat your phone getting damaged
Does this mean my phone is not waterproof or is it a common problem with all Z3s?
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its actually water filling up around the speakers and takes a bit to dry out, quite common with waterproof speakers. all my previous sony phones have done this when they get wet, give it 30 minutes or so. dont sweat your phone getting damaged
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Ok thanks for that, I'll use the search before posting in anger next time.
let the phone dry first. the speakers will return back to normal once it gets dry.
Yeah not a problem. Speakers work via vibrations. I can't vibrate when wet
Just use vibrations, and you will become vvet ,)
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Does this mean my phone is not waterproof or is it a common problem with all Z3s?
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It's not a problem, but a normal characteristic of waterproof speakers.
If you read the user manual they explain that it is normal and can take up to two hours to dry, although in practice that is always 30 mins for me or less.
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when there is water on the membrane which creates the soundwaves this changes how it moves and thus how it sounds. That is just physics @ work and not the fault of sony
Hello, last night i decided to wash myphone under the my shrink. After that also i had low speaker volumes. My lower speaker completly died but after an hour or two came back to live. Now my phone passed 14th hour since i washed it but still the volumed didnt went back to normal. Should i go to Sony Center or wait a little bit longer?
I dropped some baked beans on my Z3 and the sound was muffled for a couple of weeks until I realised I obviously hadn't washed it properly.
Now it's still a lot quieter than the top speaker, but I think that's normal? I'm not sure now, which is annoying.
RTFM before making yourself look clueless
If the speaker or microphone get wet, their function may be impacted until the water
has completely dried. Please note that the drying time can be up to three hours
depending on the environment. During this time, you can, however, use other
features in the device that do not utilise the speaker or microphone. All compatible
accessories, including batteries, chargers, handsfree devices and micro USB cables,
are not waterproof and dust resistant on their own.
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Hi,
I'm worried about a noise that I hear from the center of the tablet. Precisely, with my ear close to the "S" of the inscription "SHIELD" on the back of the tablet.
It is like the noise of a hard disk, but certainly, the tablet does not have one.
My shield is new (4 days) and works very well, no bugs and antutu bench over 55000 points...only this strange (for me) noise.
I've the last hotfix 2.2.1 with android 5.0.1
My question is: does someone have the same noise?
Thanks in advance and regards.
I have the same noises too (LTE Version). For me they come out of the front side speakers and they only appear if I use an App that needs lots of performance (like Nvidia Dabbler). Those noises exist since the first use (my shield is only 4 days old too!!! ). I read about them and now I know they aren´t made by a fan (like some people think), they are made by some eletronic stuff (tansistors etc.).
But you don´t have to woory about it. But there is nothing that cuts of those noises (in the speakers).
It's just whine from the components, nothing to worry about. As previously mentioned, it seems to go away after awhile.
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it seems to go away after awhile.
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Oh this is something I didn't know. That's nice but for me those noises didn't matter. Some people became really angry about that (in the feedback in the german amazon site).
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Oh this is something I didn't know. That's nice but for me those noises didn't matter. Some people became really angry about that (in the feedback in the german amazon site).
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Yea I was too but either it went away within a month or so, or I just became accustomed to it. It's kind of like coil whine on a GPU. Annoying at first but then you end up not even realizing it's there.
" This 'whine' or 'squeal' is the sound of these things ( inductors, coils or chokes ) physically vibrating, and it is a sign that they are poorly insulated. However this does not mean they have a shorter lifespan than a coil that does not whine and you really shouldn't lose sleep over it.
Why do they only whine when the PC is under load? What you're hearing is an effect of the PWM frequency, and as you pull more current through the inductor it induces a greater magnetic field in itself and in turn vibrating more aggressively.
Will it go away? Well, Possibly. My 8800GT squealed like a piglet in a housefire for months, and one day the noise disappeared completely. Either some characteristics of the circuit had changed or the windings in the coil had shifted.
Can you stop it? As most people know, you can stop inductors whining by chucking hot glue at them, putting high voltage putty around them, or soaking them in resin and waiting for them to set. Most (apart from PSU) inductors in PCs are covered anyway, so you can't properly silence them.
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Apologize for my English....My phone is out of warranty. Got it on release, so I can't send it back to Google now.
I got some water damage when hiking in pouring rain last weekend. After letting it resting in rice for 2 days, it's mostly functioning, except the phone part.
For one thing, I lost LTE completely. I can still live with this, and am partially ok with it.
Screen was damaged, but touch function is still intact and the only thing visible is some pattern behind/on the screen, which I can live with as well.
The part that is not functioning, is the mic. Recording video works fine, since there is audio in the video. Calling other people doesn't work. The call would connect, but either headphone mic or the phone mic would pick up my voice. Phone would not pick my any voice when doing voice search either. I could hear the other party on call/voice just fine via headset, but no sound coming out of the top earpiece. Notification sound works, as well as alarms, but no sound would come out of the speaker playing Youtube video or music.
Is it only a part being damaged, or just get a new phone? Thanks XDA for advice!
Just get a new phone. Water damage is the hardest thing to try and fix on a phone. You have taken the right steps as far as rice and letting it sit for a few days. The only other thing you could try is to disassemble the phone and spray all parts down with an electrical degreaser(basically compressed alchohol). Honestly though the symptoms your describing might just be the tip of the iceberg. Oh, and a little pro tip to use with your next phone. When hiking or doing anything outdoors, always carry a small ziploc bag with you. If it starts raining put the phone and your wallet in it. That has saved me more than once.
I am kinda cheap and want to avoid spending another $200 on this....but seems I have to get a G2 or another Nexus 5.
Thanks for the tips.
Just get a g2.
You'll probably spend more money fixing a water damaged device