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Noobe question concerning the waterproof feature on my (and other Xperia's) DD6616. If the phone is waterproof up to 5 feet for a continuous 30 minutes, what prevents me from surfacing and then going back under for up to 5 feet for another 30 minutes? Will the integrity of the phone weaken? Is there a standard time between dives you should take? Does the phone's seals get back to normal out of the water, thus the reason you can go back in? I haven't used my phone in the pool yet, but plan on this upcoming summer. Since I won't be under water constantly for 30 minutes, then having the phone in and out of the water for 5 minutes here, 3 minutes there, etc, etc, should not even be a factor correct?
Not a factor, but keep in mind the chemicals in pools. I wouldn't use it and forget it, definitely rinse it off after getting out of the pool. And no salt walter. I'd recommend a case or ziplock bag for salt.
The only thing I would watch out for is jets and breaching (can pull on flaps). And dropping it in a 5ft pool is like dropping it from 5ft on concrete. Wear a wrist strap (slippery)
So what prevents water from getting into the exposed 3.5mm audio jack, and then into the phone's internals?
I questioned the inclusion of a lanyard option until reading this post. Now it makes perfect sense to include it. Phone slips while underwater, dives to the deep end, boom!!
Flava0ne said:
So what prevents water from getting into the exposed 3.5mm audio jack, and then into the phone's internals?
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Couldn't find this in English but this is why you don't have to worry about it.
http://www.blogsonyxperia.com.br/sa...vido-de-xperia-z2-z1-e-z-ultra-e-prova-dagua/
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So what prevents water from getting into the exposed 3.5mm audio jack, and then into the phone's internals?
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The 3.5mm headphone jack is waterproof.
Eric Violette said:
Noobe question concerning the waterproof feature on my (and other Xperia's) DD6616. If the phone is waterproof up to 5 feet for a continuous 30 minutes, what prevents me from surfacing and then going back under for up to 5 feet for another 30 minutes? Will the integrity of the phone weaken? Is there a standard time between dives you should take? Does the phone's seals get back to normal out of the water, thus the reason you can go back in? I haven't used my phone in the pool yet, but plan on this upcoming summer. Since I won't be under water constantly for 30 minutes, then having the phone in and out of the water for 5 minutes here, 3 minutes there, etc, etc, should not even be a factor correct?
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My phone speakers are 50% quieter since I bought the phone since submerging it so i'd be wary of that. Everyone may say it's nonsense but i've compared it to a brand new Z3 and the speaker volume and quality have degraded since I had it.
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My phone speakers are 50% quieter since I bought the phone since submerging it so i'd be wary of that. Everyone may say it's nonsense but i've compared it to a brand new Z3 and the speaker volume and quality have degraded since I had it.
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I can attest to that. My bottom speaker sound is lesser now
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How long since you submerged it?
infinitylook said:
I can attest to that. My bottom speaker sound is lesser now
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My phone speakers are 50% quieter since I bought the phone since submerging it so i'd be wary of that. Everyone may say it's nonsense but i've compared it to a brand new Z3 and the speaker volume and quality have degraded since I had it.
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It shld only be for a while though
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It shld only be for a while though
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Mine is weeks now . Sadly i bought this from ebay
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A few days ago i dunked my phone and 10 minutes after that I tried to make a phone call. I could barely hear the person on the other end, so I turned on the loudspeaker. But again i the volume was terrible and i could not hear the other person at all.
10 minutes after the call the phone was dry and everything returned to normal.
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A few days ago i dunked my phone and 10 minutes after that I tried to make a phone call. I could barely hear the person on the other end, so I turned on the loudspeaker. But again i the volume was terrible and i could not hear the other person at all.
10 minutes after the call the phone was dry and everything returned to normal.
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Try doing the service test for stereo speakers. Dial *#*#7378423#*#*
Select service tests then stereo Speaker. Compare left and right speaker. If both are loud and clear then you're lucky. Tried mine and the right stereo speaker(which is the bottom) is muffled.
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Both are OK. There is a difference between the quality of both speakers but it's been like this since I bought the phone ( The top one sound better and sound better in general. But that's subjective so yeah... )
I haven't submerged my phone in water but the speakers are lower (although sometimes they get louder, happens with a Bluetooth speaker too). Same thing happened to my old m8 after a while,the volume just dies out.
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Both are OK. There is a difference between the quality of both speakers but it's been like this since I bought the phone ( The top one sound better and sound better in general. But that's subjective so yeah... )
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So you think it's software? Went to the store yesterday and compared it to the displayed Z3 and the store unit's top and bottom are equal in loudness and were good. So do you think this is permanent?
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I haven't submerged my phone in water but the speakers are lower (although sometimes they get louder, happens with a Bluetooth speaker too). Same thing happened to my old m8 after a while,the volume just dies out.
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The loudness of both speakers is equal, it's the way they sound that is different. The top one sound good , but the bottom is a little tinny
Mine now has the screen coming away on the top right corner, no wonder the top speaker is quiter now.
I am trading in my Z3 towards something that won't fall apart after one month's use lol
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The loudness of both speakers is equal, it's the way they sound that is different. The top one sound good , but the bottom is a little tinny
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How loudspeaker during call? I can't hear the other person on the other end during call
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It seems to be normal. I've been reading and found this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/3-little-issues-z3-help-please-speaker-t2898898 - Issue 1
Apologize for my English....My phone is out of warranty. Got it on release, so I can't send it back to Google now.
I got some water damage when hiking in pouring rain last weekend. After letting it resting in rice for 2 days, it's mostly functioning, except the phone part.
For one thing, I lost LTE completely. I can still live with this, and am partially ok with it.
Screen was damaged, but touch function is still intact and the only thing visible is some pattern behind/on the screen, which I can live with as well.
The part that is not functioning, is the mic. Recording video works fine, since there is audio in the video. Calling other people doesn't work. The call would connect, but either headphone mic or the phone mic would pick up my voice. Phone would not pick my any voice when doing voice search either. I could hear the other party on call/voice just fine via headset, but no sound coming out of the top earpiece. Notification sound works, as well as alarms, but no sound would come out of the speaker playing Youtube video or music.
Is it only a part being damaged, or just get a new phone? Thanks XDA for advice!
Just get a new phone. Water damage is the hardest thing to try and fix on a phone. You have taken the right steps as far as rice and letting it sit for a few days. The only other thing you could try is to disassemble the phone and spray all parts down with an electrical degreaser(basically compressed alchohol). Honestly though the symptoms your describing might just be the tip of the iceberg. Oh, and a little pro tip to use with your next phone. When hiking or doing anything outdoors, always carry a small ziploc bag with you. If it starts raining put the phone and your wallet in it. That has saved me more than once.
I am kinda cheap and want to avoid spending another $200 on this....but seems I have to get a G2 or another Nexus 5.
Thanks for the tips.
Just get a g2.
You'll probably spend more money fixing a water damaged device
So I got the Moto Z for my birthday, September 19th, and today February 6th I have to consider the phone as dead, as there's too many problems with it..
First problem I had with it, was the vibrator, it made a noise as if it's rubbing against the chassis. This happened after about a month and never went away.
It was problem free for the most part, up until after Christmas, when I put it in my pocket, went for a walk with the dogs, pulled the phone out mid walk and.. The screen was cracked.
A single hairline crack from edge to edge.
I've noticed the glass lifting off the frame on the right side, and so I believe the battery is swelling up and this caused the crack.
There's no pixel damage, but after this all kinds of problems have been surfacing, the screen won't always turn on when someone is calling.
The bottom proximity sensor won't always wake the screen any more.
The finger print sensor is made of plastic, and is now so scratched that I have trouble unlocking the phone with it.
Battery life was never even half decent, if I didn't charge it to and from work I couldn't make it last 12 hours.
Now it's even worse obviously.
Phone can die at any time when it drops below 10% charge, like no "shutting down" notification, screen just goes black.
Connecting the charger it'll go from 0% to 15% in seconds, or take 20 minutes to even boot again.
The ringtone/earpiece speaker has cracked, and is completely unusable now, at the very lowest volume there's a marked crackling noise, turning it up you can't hear what people say on youtube or when making calls.
The magnetic compass has never worked right, it'll make large jumps when turned south, by about 20 degrees west or east.
Makes playing Pokémon Go quite difficult as it'll jump uncontrollably around the south mark.
Occasionally the map will just keep rotating until you make the calibration movements 2-3 times.
It'll drop 4G connectivity and the reception is about half as many bars as my Moto X 2014.
The frame was bent when I climbed up a attic ladder, so the aluminium quality is rubbish. (A few weeks after the self-cracking incident)
I tried contacing Lenovo, but they won't take the battery for warranty as the glass is cracked, the fact that I tried telling them the crack is because of the battery was left on deaf ears.
My wife's HTC One M7 had the same thing happen after 11 months and they replaced the entire phone no questions asked.
Lenovo didn't keep the hardware designers, and is simply trying to churn out a few Lenovo phones with the Moto name before the brand name is truly dead.
In conclusion; Motorola is dead. Don't buy this phone.
You maybe got a bad one, it can happens. I also have the Moto Z and I use it everyday with my moto 360, I bought both like 3 month ago. Also I'm on Nougat and I don't have any issue that you describe, the only thing I also notice is the phone auto shutdown but below 5% which I find normal to save the battery, other phones maybe shutdown at 1% but in fact there still a couple of % more left.
Wow that sucks. Sounds like you got a dud. My Z has been excellent. battery has been amazing and haven't had any problems with the vibration motor.
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Wow that sucks. Sounds like you got a dud. My Z has been excellent. battery has been amazing and haven't had any problems with the vibration motor.
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Same here. I've had it since November and no problems at all.
Hahahahahahaha That was a funny post. It was satire right?
I've had 4 Moto Z's and loved them all. 2 Verizon variants, 1 Verizon Force variant, and one US unlocked. The frame on this phone is incredibly sturdy as seen here:
https://youtu.be/kZOfYo4JDIw
All of the damage to your phone has nothing to do with Motorola and everything to do with YOU. Phones don't damage themselves, the speakers don't crack, the fingerprint readers dont scratch themselves, it was you. It sounds like you trashed your phone and now are trying to place blame on someone else (Motorola).
For you to come in here and tell everyone not to buy this phone is absurd. Like I said, I've had 4 of these phones and not one has shown any problems at all. The problem is yourself, not Motorola, not Lenovo, not self-shattering glass, and not self-scratching metal.
You dropped your phone down a flight of concrete stairs and it fell end over end bouncing on every step on the way down. It cracked your screen, scratched your fingerprint reader, jarred your vibrator loose, cracked your speaker, and uncalibrated your compass. Lol That's what happened.
PS the proximity sensor can be finicky. That's the one thing I'll give you. The rest is "rubbish".
BTW, that "sudden shutdown" I experience on my G5, too and it's really bad. After 10-12 it gets down rapidly and sometimes it takes only 30 seconds of usage for the phone to shut down after you are 10%.
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BTW, that "sudden shutdown" I experience on my G5, too and it's really bad. After 10-12 it gets down rapidly and sometimes it takes only 30 seconds of usage for the phone to shut down after you are 10%.
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The battery expanding, cracking the screen, and causing the phone to shutdown randomly at or below 10% should be replaced as a defect. He has a good point with that part. But unfortunately in the warranty it specifically states everything to do with the battery is not covered under warranty. Pretty sneaky way of Lenovo to basically *not* warranty this phone because the battery is locked in and part of the whole construction.
I have to agree, if you haven't bought one yet, don't do it. I do like this phone for its features and mods, but it is designed to be completely disposable. Prices of phones with locked in batteries really should be half the price of what they are.
Dude you need a Z force
If I couldn't have a Force and camera wasn't a huge issue, I'd get a Play. I see no point getting a Z if you can get either the Force or Play unless you just want a really skinny phone.
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Hahahahahahaha That was a funny post. It was satire right?
I've had 4 Moto Z's and loved them all. 2 Verizon variants, 1 Verizon Force variant, and one US unlocked. The frame on this phone is incredibly sturdy as seen here:
https://youtu.be/kZOfYo4JDIw
All of the damage to your phone has nothing to do with Motorola and everything to do with YOU. Phones don't damage themselves, the speakers don't crack, the fingerprint readers dont scratch themselves, it was you. It sounds like you trashed your phone and now are trying to place blame on someone else (Motorola).
For you to come in here and tell everyone not to buy this phone is absurd. Like I said, I've had 4 of these phones and not one has shown any problems at all. The problem is yourself, not Motorola, not Lenovo, not self-shattering glass, and not self-scratching metal.
You dropped your phone down a flight of concrete stairs and it fell end over end bouncing on every step on the way down. It cracked your screen, scratched your fingerprint reader, jarred your vibrator loose, cracked your speaker, and uncalibrated your compass. Lol That's what happened.
PS the proximity sensor can be finicky. That's the one thing I'll give you. The rest is "rubbish".
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Why would I lie?
I'm genuinely sad, this was my birthday present (to myself) after a really long wait, as I couldn't afford the 2015 model last year.
I haven't mistreated it, I've been super careful.
I've been a Motorola fanboy since the V3i, owned most models since then.
Based on teardowns, it's built like a Lenovo device, and that confirms it for me at least that they've probably fired the old chassis engineers.
I know it's a bit ridiculous, but I feel a bit lost now, I want a new smartphone, but there's no other brands I've ever enjoyed..
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Why would I lie?
I'm genuinely sad, this was my birthday present (to myself) after a really long wait, as I couldn't afford the 2015 model last year.
I haven't mistreated it, I've been super careful.
I've been a Motorola fanboy since the V3i, owned most models since then.
Based on teardowns, it's built like a Lenovo device, and that confirms it for me at least that they've probably fired the old chassis engineers.
I know it's a bit ridiculous, but I feel a bit lost now, I want a new smartphone, but there's no other brands I've ever enjoyed..
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I'm still using my Moto X (2014) and similarly consider the Moto Z (dual SIM preferably) as my only attractive upgrade.
I empathize with the poor experience you've suffered with it, especially as it was a birthday gift. However, I suspect that your experience is the exception and that you received a dud. It happens. And although Motorola's warranty and customer service seem very poor, perhaps you might consider repurchasing when prices drop after the new model is released. I am currently researching root and other support options for the dual SIM variant before "pulling the trigger" (on eBay)...
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I put it in my pocket, went for a walk with the dogs, pulled the phone out mid walk and.. The screen was cracked
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You bent the frame, you either leaned on something, or if your pants were too tight, just compressed it too much. It's crap luck, but it's not motorola's fault, nor is it a warranty claim.
Your battery would only expand enough to crack a screen if it were very highly overheated. like, shorting out overheated, in the 80-90 degree range, basically hot enough that you would have had second and third degree burns in your pocket (battery expansion occurs at about 90 degrees on average in lithium cells, there are many, many, many studies on this subject, especially since Samsung last year)
The finger print sensor is made of plastic, and is now so scratched that I have trouble unlocking the phone with it.
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Stop carrying your phone in a pocket filled with change?! or something? I've had my moto Z the better part of a year, and my fingerprint sensor is spotless, I can't even imagine how you scratched yours.
Phone can die at any time when it drops below 10% charge
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Do you know how lithium batteries work? 10% across 6 cells mean each cell has less than 2% battery.... at less than 1% you do irreparable damage to a cell, it will never take a full charge again if you drain it completely. So unfortunately, 10% is actually a completely reasonable number to shut down at.
Speaker breaking? No idea how you accomplished that, usually take a pretty solid impact or water damage to blow a phone speaker to the point of cracking even at the lowest volumes.
Reception wise, I'll admit mine shows less "bars" but remains connected regardless. It's less about not having signal, and more, appearing to have less.
I will agree, the compass isn't the greatest, it's easily calibrated though (using google maps)
Sound like you bent your phone, and if you hadn't, you'd have a warranty claim on the speaker, and "possibly" the battery. But since you broke your screen, you're screwed. You SHOULD be able to send it in for repair and pay them to fix it/replace it, usually for much less than the cost of replacing it.
Sorry about your luck mate.
I decided to follow up on this review with my one year review of the phone.
So far I have none of the problems you have listed, and I'm very careless with my tech (Read: Broken every single screen on every phone I have ever owned)
The only complaint I have is that the finger print sensor gets dirty easily, though I assume that's more likely a mix of the finish on it and my fingers getting oily.
Battery life is meh, but I have the battery mod so no problems yet (2-3 days usually with my usage, as opposed to the Xperia X being 4-5)
I do have one problem with your review, apart from many of the problems seeming self inflicted, this one particularly stands out.
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First problem I had with it, was the vibrator, it made a noise as if it's rubbing against the chassis. This happened after about a month and never went away.
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This sounds like a manufacturer defect.
That should've been the moment you asked for a return or warranty repair.
I've been playing around the service menu and tested the Pressure Sensor. In a solid waterproof phone, pressure should remain steady when acted upon by outside forces.
I simply tried to moderately blow some air into the USB port and there's a notable difference. Also removed the sim cap and sucked on the port. Air was clearly passing through.
I'm curious if it's just my phone with this issue in which case I'll replace it, or if it's a design fault, in which case you shouldn't submerge it.
In the screenshots you'll see the pressure difference. So please test this by accessing the service menu *#*#service#*#*, > tests > pressure sensor and simply blow some air into it.
And for the giggles and ranting, there's the sony talk thread https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...s-waterproof/m-p/1237116/highlight/true#M2652
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I've been playing around the service menu and tested the Pressure Sensor. In a solid waterproof phone, pressure should remain steady when acted upon by outside forces.
I simply tried moderately blowing some air into the USB port and there's a notable difference. Also removed the sim cap and sucked on the port. Air was clearly passing through.
I'm curious if it's just my phone with this issue in which case I'll replace it, or if it's a design fault, in which case you shouldn't submerge it.
In the screenshots you'll see the presiune difference. So please test this by accessing the service menu *#*#service#*#*, > tests > pressure sensor and simply blow some air into it.
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In Xperia Z3 there was a hole in the lower-left corner that if not covered by hand also let the pressure to drop down.
I think that every phone has to have some kind of a "blow off valve" to prevent internal pressure from rising when the phone heats up to avoid damaging the seals around the screen and the back.
Note that when you cover the usb port pressure stays perfectly stable. The phone is still waterproof it just lets the internals "breathe"
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In Xperia Z3 there was a hole in the lower-left corner that if not covered by hand also let the pressure to drop down.
I think that every phone has to have some kind of a "blow off valve" to prevent internal pressure from rising when the phone heats up to avoid damaging the seals around the screen and the back.
Note that when you cover the usb port pressure stays perfectly stable. The phone is still waterproof it just lets the internals "breathe"
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It's far more than a simple valve. For example if you have water in the port and you blow some air to take it out, that water will actually go inside the phone. I'm asking because if ever submerged, water pressure will be far grater than my air blowing capabilities ))) so things can get messy pretty fast.
It's far too easy to change the pressure inside it, so all I need to know is if other XZp are behaving the same way or if it's just mine.
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It's far more than a simple valve. For example if you have water in the port and you blow some air to take it out, that water will actually go inside the phone. I'm asking because if ever submerged, water pressure will be far grater than my air blowing capabilities ))) so things can get messy pretty fast.
It's far too easy to change the pressure inside it, so all I need to know is if other XZp are behaving the same way or if it's just mine.
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As I said Z3 behaved similarly and I have submerged this phone a couple of times and never had any problems with it. Note that air particles are much more able to squeeze through tight spaces than water.
Same principle aplies to waterproof jackets, they let the air pass through so that you wont get sweaty while at the same time the won't let water go through.
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As I said Z3 behaved similarly and I have submerged this phone a couple of times and never had any problems with it. Note that air particles are much more able to squeeze through tight spaces than water.
Same principle aplies to waterproof jackets, they let the air pass through so that you wont get sweaty while at the same time the won't let water go through.
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Yes man, I know what a valve is and how it operates in a phone. I've been having xperias for over 5 years. I'm not on Talk.sonymobile, I'm on xda. So if you can try the test whenever you can. All it takes is 1 minute.
I opened this thread because I need to see if mine has those rubber seals too loose or if it's a general and normal thing. I asked for xzp owners to try the test because on my phone air passes virtually unobstructed.
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Yes man, I know what a valve is and how it operates in a phone. I've been having xperias for over 5 years. I'm not on Talk.sonymobile, I'm on xda. So if you can try the test whenever you can. All it takes is 1 minute.
I opened this thread because I need to see if mine has those rubber seals too loose or if it's a general and normal thing. I asked for xzp owners to try the test because on my phone air passes virtually unobstructed.
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It works for me exactly the same way as you described. Sorry I didn't mean to patronise you in any way
There is a pressure regulation in every phone. The reason is the battery, in case the battery is defective (see Shamesung Note ), it will produce gas. This gas can later inflame, hence it is important to get it out of the device.
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There is a pressure regulation in every phone. The reason is the battery, in case the battery is defective (see Shamesung Note ), it will produce gas. This gas can later inflame, hence it is important to get it out of the device.
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I know, I just spent a lot of money on this thing and I'd rather avoid damaging it. In my opinion that valve is way too lose.
Check this video out, I do not agree with this idiotic test but in the end the phone got water damaged. Vibrator Motor is right next to the USB port which in this video it keeps on vibrating even after device is off.
https://youtu.be/Z3JUGkXXXJw?t=17m52s
I might be a bit paranoid but submerging this phone is not a good idea. Maybe something like this will help https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91LUJPpD45L._SL1500_.jpg
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It works for me exactly the same way as you described. Sorry I didn't mean to patronise you in any way
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I know, I'm sorry for jumping the gun. Didn't get a full night sleep.
I'm weary because I had Xperia XZ for a week, did the same test but the breathability on the usb port was minimum. Anyway, I'll be careful. My (very) old Xperia Z got water damaged in the pool due to a worn rubber band on the headphone jack. Damage was extensive.
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I know, I just spent a lot of money on this thing and I'd rather avoid damaging it. In my opinion that valve is way too lose.
Check this video out, I do not agree with this idiotic test but in the end the phone got water damaged. Vibrator Motor is right next to the USB port which in this video it keeps on vibrating even after device is off.
https://youtu.be/Z3JUGkXXXJw?t=17m52s
I might be a bit paranoid but submerging this phone is not a good idea. Maybe something like this will help https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91LUJPpD45L._SL1500_.jpg
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If damaged by submerging, I'd send it on for guarantee and request a new one. It states IP68 proof, that means 30 minutens fully submerged.
Oh and btw, the guy actually FROZE his phone for 12 hours .
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If damaged by submerging, I'd send it on for guarantee and request a new one. It states IP68 proof, that means 30 minutens fully submerged.
Oh and btw, the guy actually FROZE his phone for 12 hours .
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I know.... It's an idiotic test. But leaving that aside, it is compared to another waterproof phone which worked as good as new afterwards. So it's safe too assume that the USB might be letting in a bit more than just data and power.
It's a bit of a letdown, I'll wait for the teardown videos to see if they finally coated the motherboard and other boards against water ingress. Just like you see in the iphone and samsung.
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I know.... It's an idiotic test. But leaving that aside, it is compared to another waterproof phone which worked as good as new afterwards. So it's safe too assume that the USB might be letting in a bit more than just data and power.
It's a bit of a letdown, I'll wait for the teardown videos to see if they finally coated the motherboard and other boards against water ingress. Just like you see in the iphone and samsung.
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Well, I'm the kinda guy who tries out things if promised . What I can tell you, my phone spent a fair amount of time submerged already, I always wanted to try out underwater video recording. No real sense in it, but it's fun .
Still working and it's drying real quick.
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Well, I'm the kinda guy who tries out things if promised . What I can tell you, my phone spent a fair amount of time submerged already, I always wanted to try out underwater video recording. No real sense in it, but it's fun .
Still working and it's drying real quick.
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I know it's fun, it's even more so when you wash it in the sink in front of people haha. Can you please do me a solid and test the pressure sensor while blowing air into the usb? like I tried - 2 cm away, full lung pressure on the usb, and tell me if that pressure rapidly moves up. It will help me sleep better at night after I wash the thing haha.
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I know it's fun, it's even more so when you wash it in the sink in front of people haha. Can you please do me a solid and test the pressure sensor while blowing air into the usb? like I tried - 2 cm away, full lung pressure on the usb, and tell me if that pressure rapidly moves up. It will help me sleep better at night after I wash the thing haha.
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I'll do so in 13 minutes, im currently running a battery test. Just as side note, Amazon Underground seems to drain battery like hell on 7.1.
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I know it's fun, it's even more so when you wash it in the sink in front of people haha. Can you please do me a solid and test the pressure sensor while blowing air into the usb? like I tried - 2 cm away, full lung pressure on the usb, and tell me if that pressure rapidly moves up. It will help me sleep better at night after I wash the thing haha.
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Ok, done. Pressure going up rapidly. Consider it normal.
Illux said:
I'll do so in 13 minutes, im currently running a battery test. Just as side note, Amazon Underground seems to drain battery like hell on 7.1.
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YAY!!!! Paranoid Parrot now returning to its cage :victory:
Mine does the same
I have the same problem and my xzp had water damaged,they changed me a new one which still have this problem....I will not try twice.Maybe this is a manufacturing problem.
sonyisall said:
I have the same problem and my xzp had water damaged,they changed me a new one which still have this problem....I will not try twice.Maybe this is a manufacturing problem.
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It's a design flaw then..... I'll buy the usb silicon caps just to be extra safe.... Shame they didn't manage to build this properly.....
Forgive me my ignorance. I know it's stupid question and I know answer will be yes, but it's always worth double checking.
So I can submerge xz premium without any usb/jack and other ports covers as they were just designed to be able to handle that?
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Forgive me my ignorance. I know it's stupid question and I know answer will be yes, but it's always worth double checking.
So I can submerge xz premium without any usb/jack and other ports covers as they were just designed to be able to handle that?
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Yes, that is the idea behind IP68 certification. I dumped my phone in the pool yesterday, just for fun. Just PLEASE make sure to dry the phone before charging it. I know that sounds stupid but there is some photos around of ppl claiming their devices just started burning. Due to the nature of energy transport in USB-C 3.1, that is almost impossible - unless you short-circuit it with water .
#1: The sd/sim tray is so poorly designed it'll actually not slot into place properly and I've used this device for only a few minutes. This means the IP rating is basically useless since if anything sips in due to how the tray is designed it'll leak straight to the screen and everything else. I've tried to use minor force to slot in in the place "properly" but the thing is that the flat part that covers the slot wobbles meaning it is not static, which means we have a topkek moment a la Z1-5 flap issue all over again.
#2: The sd card reader is gimped, less than half (getting 1/3) the speeds compared to say the XZ1.
#3: Now let's talk about the elephant in the room shall we? The glass backside, It's not flat! Meaning it can't sit on anything with a slight decline like your bed, pillow, or anything slippery for that matter. You either buy a derpy case or live with the fact that this device can't even sit flat unless otherwise.
#4: Weight was added for no reason, and a lot of people tend to believe that weight equals quality, but in this case it had no reason whatsoever. And what's the best of it all?! Said weight made it thicker, which means they had plenty of space to add that headphone jack that was removed because they had to follow the fruitcake trend. And because it's rounded in the rear, it makes the actual thickness seem thinner than it's predecessor which is around 2-3mm thinner which has guess what? A headphone jack! And don't give me that BS about needed cooling, the S9 is thinner (about the same as the XZ1) and comes in both Exynos and SD flavors.
#5: Let's remind ourselves once again why the headphone jack was removed, not to mention a lot of regions won't even ship with any headphones (nordic region here) which felt kinda cheap, but at least they provided a dongle!
I got a pair of MDR-EX650AP and WH-H900N if anyone is wondering and both come in handy, trust me.
Goto admit I love my XZ2 and I only agree with you on No.2 and No.5...
2... Im using a Samsung 64GB 95mb/s SDCard andthe read speed is rubbish.. this is my second XZ2 and its exactly the same.. so it tells me theres a software issue.. In both the SONY Music app and using the home screen widget, from pressing play.. It takes about 3 secs before music starts playing.. and Im getting lag when accessing phot9os and files on SDCard... theres been 2 updates so far... 145 and 159.. and neither updates have fixed this
5.. Dont even mention the stupidity of removing the Headphone jack from devices ... its been a thorn in everyones side since HTC, the first Android Dev to follow Apple with this "Sheep" like trend on their U Ultra last March 17.. and now its a thing... do you know what really gets me is everybody complains about on forums, yet nobody goes on a Devs Twitter or FB page and says "I was going to buy your phone, but because you removed the 3.5 jack, Ive bought a Samsung instead"... do you know, if everyone started saying that.. we'd have the Jack back by 2019... because regardless of the device you actually buy.. theres nothing worse for a DEV than critisism on their front pages.
Anyway... I think the XZ2 is a gorgeous device, beautifully weighted, stunning.. yes, STUNNING and simple camera, great speakers.. anda great screen, No its not perfect.. buts its pretty good
I'd also add the downgrading of the front camera to 5mp from the 13mp in last year's XZ models. Though I wonder if that could have been a space issue at the edge for the module.
It's the one thing (well and the SD card speed) that is keeping me from upgrading from an XZ1. Though if the price gets low enough...
And #6 - no double tap to wake the phone... I am not sure why this was removed since the Sony X series.. its a real shame....
The camera is still bad ala sony
Allesa said:
The camera is still bad ala sony
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Camera isn't that bad. But don't use the Auto Mode!
I've made some comparisons (maybe i can show one later at home) and the auto mode is just bad. It makes blurry pictures, especially the darker areas. Switching to manual mode with auto settings raises the quality extremely. Don't know if that's a bug or whatever...
No wired video out is a big one for me...
I can't deal with the deletion of Video app. I can't play videos other than in MP4 format. I don't like to install those badly designed apps from google play. Any solutions?
AlvinZahran98 said:
I can't deal with the deletion of Video app. I can't play videos other than in MP4 format. I don't like to install those badly designed apps from google play. Any solutions?
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Install vlc (playstore). It nearly all types of media files.
Guys do you have problems with screen scrolling? I can see alot blur on screen when I scrool black tekst on white page. It makes me dizzy. Is it because poor pixel response time on that IPS panel? I had before Lenovo Zuk Z2 IPS and Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro AMOLED and no problems on them at all. I have this on Oreo and this Android P beta... This LCD seems to be terrible... also too much of white colours, looks like milk splash on glass. Any way to fix it? Colour calibration does not help on these both issues.
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And #6 - no double tap to wake the phone... I am not sure why this was removed since the Sony X series.. its a real shame....
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Get a proximity wake app like Gravity Screen from the store and you won't care.
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It gets scratched as crazy; got scratches both on the back & front after a few days of usage.
In comparison, my Xiaomi Mi Mix displayed similar "material usage" after 1 year. Something's definitely wrong.
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Guys do you have problems with screen scrolling? I can see alot blur on screen when I scrool black tekst on white page. It makes me dizzy. Is it because poor pixel response time on that IPS panel? I had before Lenovo Zuk Z2 IPS and Lenovo Zuk Z2 Pro AMOLED and no problems on them at all. I have this on Oreo and this Android P beta... This LCD seems to be terrible... also too much of white colours, looks like milk splash on glass. Any way to fix it? Colour calibration does not help on these both issues.
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Weird, no blur on my H8296 6GB.
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It gets scratched as crazy; got scratches both on the back & front after a few days of usage.
In comparison, my Xiaomi Mi Mix displayed similar "material usage" after 1 year. Something's definitely wrong.
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Weird, mine is fine.
There is also a bend and scratch test on YouTube to demonstrate it.
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
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Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
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There are water resistant speakers which break physical laws and transmit the sound through water without any quality degradation?
Haldi4803 said:
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
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1. Water will block sound waves, not a huge amount you can do with a phone.
2. Not an issue for me as I use my left ear and my little finger is the other side of the USB.
My most annoying thing on this phone is the XZ2 is very slippery!! Cannot even sit calmly if there is a slight angle on the surface! Have to buy a case to prevent this though...
Haldi4803 said:
Found 2 more flaws -.-
1. The Speakers are not Watercapable.
Took the phone into the shower with me... Sound volume dropped by 70% as soon as the phone got splashed with water.
2. Microphone placement!
They really placed the microphone beside the USB Port... Where do you place your little finger when you hold your phone at the ear? At the Bottom! To prevent this slippery phone from sliding out of your hands. If your placement is bad you will fully cover the microphone and then person on the other end of the call won't hear a thing! Happened multiple times to me before I realized this -.-
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You are dumb. Speaker grill has some material that prevent water to drop inside and if water stays on grill, sound can't get through that water. Dry it and sound will increase again. That is common for all phones. This is not a flaw.
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You are dumb. Speaker grill has some material that prevent water to drop inside and if water stays on grill, sound can't get through that water. Dry it and sound will increase again. That is common for all phones. This is not a flaw.
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"Dumb" is impolite, but I can understand you.
Everyone who had physics in school should understand this behaviour.
Btw.
I hate 2 things
1. The DRM **** (it is my first Sony phone)
So I hope for a drm fix which doesn't reduce the camera quality if used with aosp and gcam.
2. The slow, undocumented sdcard performance of 20mb/sec.
The only flaw that stops me from buying anything from the XZ2 line-up is the sad lack of development support, specially custom kernel development.
Sadly enough.