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winded emulator review request.

hi all,
i am almost certainly getting this phone, but i am still very curious about it's ability to handle console emulators, specifically the NES emulator. i have a titan/mogul now which is damn near the perfect NES emulator since it has 2 buttons above the screen when held in landscape, has the button setup of a NES controller.
the only flaw with the mogul is that it can only support 2 simultaneous button presses....this becomes a problem in say a mario game, where you want to run and jump with precision(hold dpad left + b, then press a). i have learned to live with this, but i am worried that the touch pro might actually be worse when it comes to emulators....
will someone who has a TP please test a few NES or SNES games and answer my few Q's?.....PM me if you need an emulator or a few ROMs to perform the test.
since the TP doesn't have buttons on the top of the sceen, i think i'd end up playing the games in portrait with the dpad and the right 2 buttons as a&b(onscreen controls are notoriously sucky)....
1) is the emulator playable in this setup?
2) can the TP register 3 simultaneous button presses(a running jump in mario)?
how about with the keyboard slid out in landscape....
3) does 3 simultaneous button presses register?
4) with the TP being twice the resolution of the mogul, but only having a slightly more powerful processor, how do the emulators perform? i'm kind of worried about SNES/Genesis playability.....
Thanks.
yerp

Most emulators seem to work fine - I tested many. Those who don't are mostly stuck in irrelevant things (like the file requester!).
I haven't tested any simultaneous controls though (or in fact anything on NES/SNES).
PM me to see if I can help.

tip
you should consider keeping your current device on the side.
i found the tp not realy suited for fast paced games because of the lack of buttons, the inabilty to map the existing buttons, and the inability to effectively use the buttons. `real` buttons such on the wizzard and polaris i owned will kick the tp`s touch dpad`s behind with two fingures in the nose.

Hi,
Is there nobody that has had a working SNES emulator for the TP? I have tried some like PocketSNES but like someone stated above, you can't succesfully map the hardware keys. Anyway is there someone who has a tip for a good SNES emulator for the TP
Greetz

Key Assign Problem (Morphgear+PocketGBA)

Hello, this is my first Post in this Forum.
I recently got a HTC Touch Pro and installed Morphgear and PocketGBA.
Now i have a Problem with assigning the keys propery..
I would like to use the Keyboard (W,A,S,D) for the directional pad (Up, Down, Left, Right).
But every key gets the same Keycode, in morphgear it is 229 and in PocketGBA its 00E5.
Now when i press a key in a game, every command (Up,Down,Left,Right) gets done at the same time.
Both emulatores worked fine with the Keyboard of the Tytn II.
I already searched in different Forums, Google etc. but could not get any answer.
It would be cool if anyone could help me with that.
Greetz!
Edit (Seems to be the same Problem here):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423444

Face buttons/controller?
Hello,
Sorry to not have an answer for you but I am also considering this phone. I have a tilt and can't do without morphgear (which works fine for me using the buttons on the face of the phone).
I have a question for you: are you unable to use the controls on the face of the touch pro with morphgear? Or do you simply prefer the keyboard as a controller.
Any information on this is much appreciated...
Thanks!

I wrote a small application for Raphael which made it possible to map the following buttons in emulators (e.g. PocketSNES, Morphgear...etc) and some games possibly:
A, S, X, Z, 1, 2, -, =, backspace, enter, left, right, up and down.
Usage:
1. Download the cab and install.
2. Start Menu -> Programs -> Games -> Run "K for Raphael."
3. Launch any emulator and you can set the buttons mentioned above to keys in game.
Please note that this is just a workaround, as you can see the key code catched by the target application is not the actual key code of the hardware button. So, please remember to close this application when you no longer need it.
If you need more keys to be in the white list, please let me know.
I hope HTC can pay more attention to this problem. Nothing's more shameful than paying $800 for a full QWERTY device just for text messaging and web browsing.

Is it possible to have the keys send the code they are supposed to send? I'd like to run some dos games on some dosbox clone, but if they don't get proper keypresses it's useless?

hi there, im got an HTC touch pro too, but i downloaded PocketGBA and i cant install it, when i try to install it, it says installation was unsuccesfull... i dont understand why...
a frind got a HTC touch and it works with his phone..
why is that??
and sry for my english..!!!
thx

I am using MorphGear and it is really good. Especially now when we can use the keyboard!

marios96 said:
I am using MorphGear and it is really good. Especially now when we can use the keyboard!
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coul u put the link please or pm me please.. i dowloaded one, but seems its broke..

dilta said:
I wrote a small application for Raphael which made it possible to map the following buttons in emulators (e.g. PocketSNES, Morphgear...etc) and some games possibly:
A, S, X, Z, 1, 2, -, =, backspace, enter, left, right, up and down.
Usage:
1. Download the cab and install.
2. Start Menu -> Programs -> Games -> Run "K for Raphael."
3. Launch any emulator and you can set the buttons mentioned above to keys in game.
Please note that this is just a workaround, as you can see the key code catched by the target application is not the actual key code of the hardware button. So, please remember to close this application when you no longer need it.
If you need more keys to be in the white list, please let me know.
I hope HTC can pay more attention to this problem. Nothing's more shameful than paying $800 for a full QWERTY device just for text messaging and web browsing.
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Great could you make a fit for azerty TP ?

dilta said:
I wrote a small application for Raphael which made it possible to map the following buttons in emulators (e.g. PocketSNES, Morphgear...etc) and some games possibly:
A, S, X, Z, 1, 2, -, =, backspace, enter, left, right, up and down.
I hope HTC can pay more attention to this problem. Nothing's more shameful than paying $800 for a full QWERTY device just for text messaging and web browsing.
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Just question, when I click on " TF3D Toogle " but got a error message " cannot toggle TF3D plug-in "... Did I missing something?

rayho said:
Just question, when I click on " TF3D Toogle " but got a error message " cannot toggle TF3D plug-in "... Did I missing something?
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I forgot to mention that you don't need to toggle TF3D to enable the keyboard mapping function.
Please ignore the TouchFLO 3D Toggle button. Thanks to the fact that TF3D almost consumes no CPU time when it's in the background. After some tests, I found the toggle nearly useless.
BTW... I'll try to spend some time dealing with the key code problem this weekend. I myself also got some games to play with DOS emulators. sigh...

cool, if you manage to get it working for all the keys, ill might donate a small amount if you give us your paypal, and maybe even some other people?

With the workaround listed above, what's the maximum number of action buttons you can currently have - besides the directional buttons on the keyboard?
Also - if you use that workaround, can you perform diagonal motion by hitting two buttons at once?

A, S, X, Z, 1, 2, -, =, backspace, enter, left, right, up and down
That is a total of 10 action buttons and 4 directional!

marios96 said:
A, S, X, Z, 1, 2, -, =, backspace, enter, left, right, up and down
That is a total of 10 action buttons and 4 directional!
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Thanks for clearing that up - that's awesome. I thought that portion of the post meant that the letter buttons REPLACED the 4 directional buttons. So I thought there might only be the 4 directional buttons and 2 action buttons.
What about diagonals - or pressing 2 buttons at once? Can the Raphael handle it?

P0ll0L0c0 said:
Thanks for clearing that up - that's awesome. I thought that portion of the post meant that the letter buttons REPLACED the 4 directional buttons. So I thought there might only be the 4 directional buttons and 2 action buttons.
What about diagonals - or pressing 2 buttons at once? Can the Raphael handle it?
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YES! Emulating games on TP is awsome! Every game I tried worked great with MorphGear...

Hey guys . I didn't want to start another topic. As long as you talking about emus, i got a question about them. Can you recomend me best emus for Snes, Genesis, Nes, GBA, SEGA MasterSystem and SCUMMVM (lucas arts old point & click games) From what i understand there are diferent emus on the net , please tell me what is the best one. Aso does Sega Cd works thrue some Genesis emus
Thanks in advance

tokitad said:
Hey guys . I didn't want to start another topic. As long as you talking about emus, i got a question about them. Can you recomend me best emus for Snes, Genesis, Nes, GBA, SEGA MasterSystem and SCUMMVM (lucas arts old point & click games) From what i understand there are diferent emus on the net , please tell me what is the best one. Aso does Sega Cd works thrue some Genesis emus
Thanks in advance
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In fact would be a great idea

guys , anyone?

just download a bunch and test them for yourself, or try and use the search function before asking

KforTouchPro is released
I figured out the way to let you map keys to their correct key codes. The problem lies in the built-in M5 IME, which intercepts virtual key codes sent by the OS without proper handling.
This release of KforTouchPro simply allows you to switch between M5 and your system default IME as the "preloaded IME" at run time.
Instructions:
1. Download & install the CAB.
2. To play emulators/games, click on the "Disable M5 IME" button of KforTP.
Unlike KforRaphael, you may close KforTP after disabling M5.
Congratulations, your hardware keyboard now talks directly to the M$ IME in correct key codes.
3. When you want your M5 functions back (auto-completion/auto-corrections), just click on the "Enable M5 IME" button. No soft reset is needed.
Afterall, I still didn't feel so good for the need to switch between two modes: gaming & typing. Maybe M5 & HTC should be responsible for this.
BTW.. I just put a relay IME between your current preloaded IME and the M$ default IME. Thus, it should be working even if the bundled IME is not M5.
Reminder: Don't forget to backup your device before giving it a try.
Updated GMT+8 6:41 PM: I am sorry for causing system crash for some users. The attachment was temporarily removed. Now I only get positive confirmation from traditional Chinese devices. I'll try to figure out the reason causing the crashes.

[Searching] Amiga Emulator for WinMo 6.5

I'm looking for an Amiga emulator for my HTC HD2 with WM6.5.5 installed
Can't find anything that is recent that works on WM6.5 and/or WVGA
Anyone?! [^_^] TiA

h??p://pocketinsanity.org/web/pocketinsanity/Projects/PocketUAE

Interesting....
hasinasi said:
h??p://pocketinsanity.org/web/pocketinsanity/Projects/PocketUAE
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Interesting site...

Cheers! \(^_^)/
hasinasi said:
h??p://pocketinsanity.org/web/pocketinsanity/Projects/PocketUAE
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Thank you very much. I had come across the Pocket version of UAE, but an older version and was forward thinking enough to check 'sourceforge'.
The images look pretty good so far... downloading currently and will give it a try on the tube home... will have to look around for some legally free adf's on-line or whatever UAE uses to try it out, until I get home... where I have many stored on a DVD from the good old days.
Will update once I've given a try. Thanks again 'hasinasi' [^_^]

fazz said:
Thank you very much. I had come across the Pocket version of UAE, but an older version and was forward thinking enough to check 'sourceforge'.
The images look pretty good so far... downloading currently and will give it a try on the tube home... will have to look around for some legally free adf's on-line or whatever UAE uses to try it out, until I get home... where I have many stored on a DVD from the good old days.
Will update once I've given a try. Thanks again 'hasinasi' [^_^]
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So! How did it go? I was the last Amiga owner among my friends i loved Amiga. Have you managed to get the Amiga running on you MoPhone?

interested in this...

I looked at the page and hmmm we can forget to use it on a non-stylus phone i think....

I tried this on my Athena and Universal
The emulator itself is pretty good but not without issues. For 640x480 devices there is no onscreen keyboard and the Leo/HD2 lacks a joypad so most games are going to be useless.
The Athena and Universal with their hardware keyboard were ideal for this emulator and I managed to play a few games quite well.
Some games like Frontier, Carrier Command, and Captive which are 99% mouse controlable should be playable using the stylus for mouse controls and speed should be good as well. Also a lot of the old music demos would be ok as well.
I shall give it a try at somepoint myself as I have one of those old Bluetooth joypads which I can try and use. will let you know how it goes if I get anywhere.

You can use LMTs multitouch gamepad as a dpad replacement. It is configurable and works in any app. It converts the input to keyevents. Have a look in the LMT thread for further details...

Did you guys get this to work on winmo 6.5?
I am not having luck with my tilt 2 so far.

Amiga Emulator Working Great for me with LMT controller
Pocket Ultimate Amiga Emulator is now working great for me on the old games I use to love. It runs at 640x480 and I use LMT v0.8x from this page of the LMT forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629263&page=74
Get the 'x' version of that controller I link to -- it's on the page I link you to in the first post, "LMT v0.8x", that version is great because it includes a '2 mouse button' controller as well as the full gamepad. These 2 buttons rest down at the bottom of the screen and are out of the way of the emulator. Because they are not sitting on top of the screen I can play my favorite 'mouse games' from the Amiga now, such as 'populous I and II', and 'powermonger' and 'lemmings'. My favorite games were the mouse games so the '2 button controller' is fantastic.
Please give it a try -- I find PocketUAE to be now functional with LMT v0.8x.
TIPS: gapi driver mode gives a 'touchpad style' mouse experience, and dbi driver mode is 'stylus style', so I'd practice with the mouse in gapi mode before trying point+click dbi. I have mine set for dbi 320x480 full screen left hand side rotation so I can use the 2 mouse buttons on left side of screen and point with my right hand fingers. Have fun and good luck!
For a great place to get disks of games, google up "the game archives roms emulators" and choose the first link.
Now I'm off to find dos emulators so I can try and make 'dungeon keeper' work with this 2 button controller version of LMT v0.8x
PS: don't just get lmt v0.8x for emulators, it has FULL GLOBAL MULTITOUCH GESTURE SUPPORT on any screen you are in on the hd2, and if configured properly you can do some amazing things that no other smartphone of our caliber can do. It can close a foreground app with a double finger swipe, which for gamers means NO MORE BATTERY PULLING TO GET OUT OF A GAME.... It floats OVER gapi which is strong stuff.

[GAME][2.1+/3.1+] MAME4droid - MAME 0.37b5 port for Android

Hi... maybe this is no the correct site... but i have updated
iMAME4all site with the new iMAME4all Android port called MAME4droid
that I have been developing recently.
iOS iMAME4all is the best MAME mobile experience since iOS runs very
well iMAME. Android is very hard to deal with (performance) and till
Android 3.0 there is not HW 2D accelerated APIs.
Anyway... i think i have done a good job and with the correct HW...
MAME4droid is a very good experience.
Features:
Port of iMAME4all 1.9 for Android 2.1 and upper phone versions.
Native Support for Android honeycomb tablets.
Android 3.0 (Honeycomb) 2D Hardware Accelerated.
Autorotate. HW Keys remapping supported. Selectable hide/show touch
Controller. Smoothed image. Animated touch stick and more.
Some features still missing are: analog touch control, native wiimote (but you can use 3rd party apps on market) and overlays. The rest iOS features are
there.
I haven't published to market yet, as this is an early release and I'm waiting for comments and (hopefully very few) bug reports.
As a new user I'm not allowed to post links, so to download the apk, search for iMAME4all at google code site.
Maybe this is of interest to you or any of you friends.

I have a Acer Iconia A500 to test this with. Ill post my findings.
Link for others: http://code.google.com/p/imame4all/
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA Premium App

Thanks....let me know your findings.
I have published a b2...fixing a rotation bug...

Fantastic news. I tried it out and seems to be working great. Any possible chance to add support for wiimotes? I can't seem to get it to accept a key from it.

I am incorrect. It can work with wiimotes.
However, there is no way to change the the definition of keys for those of us without a physical keyboard.
Thanks a bunch for doing this work.

Fantastic work...had been hoping someone would pick this up.
Did some testing on my Galaxy 10.1 tab (Bonsai rom, 1.4gHz) and it went well with the few games I tried. On screen controls are a little sluggish but disabling the animated controls smoothed it out.
Please let me know if I can help with any testing. Will be watching this one closely.

So I have it loaded and it seems to run, but I have loaded several roms that are all on the list and all seem to fail. I get missing files for ever single one of the roms. Any clue as to why?

You mention that there isn't 2d hardware accel without honeycomb. Couldn't the 2d be drawn to a 3d layer? There are numerous hardware accelerated games on android 2.x

Yes I will do... But at first I wanted to do 2d engine, so buggy gles drivers were not a problem and supporting all kind of smartphones.
the 2d rendering is very good without filtering now...

how to make working roms? i tried several roms but without success..

Marcelo Henrique dos Sant said:
how to make working roms? i tried several roms but without success..
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same here. it seems that most of the roms are missing files in the zip... I have verified that the same issue also happens in the desktop version of the same build this is made from. So not many roms seem to be working and the rom checker program doesn't fix any of them or I just don't know how to work it.

Sadly that port is not usable for me simply because the onscreen controls dont seem to work right. The analog stick doesnt center unless I lift my finger off the screen. Dead zone on/off doesnt change that. Is this actually supposed to be that way or is it a bug.

I use this on the subway a lot and I was wondering if others would find it helpful to have a quick pause feature. Maybe touch the middle of the screen to pause/unpause.
Just wanted to make that suggestion.

I really like this Mame port, fast, good looking and compatable with many games !
I found a full working romsets in the usual places (just check for mame gp32 romset).
I usually play using a wiimote or a gamepad (android 3.2 is great for that!).
BTW is there an option to enable more buttons on the virtual joystick ? As I have 4 in portrait mode, but only 2 in landscape one.
Also, do you plan to add 2 players support in the input settings?
Thanks for your hard work ! It's so nice to play those good old games on Android.

Can the "Mahjong electron base" game run on Android SYS?
I have the game source of mame for PSP
how to change it to run the mahjong electron base game on Android SYS?!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1274215

running on galaxy s starts with buttons and a black screen. then android tells me app is not responding.

I ran this on my gtab 10.1 and it works GREAT!!! I use to use winmo and this is far better than any mame emulator i used there. Great work!!

Hello this is a good working emulator. But i was wondering if it is possible to change or create a conf file, to change the location of the roms folder.

Hi guys
As mame4droid will never support save state
i was thinking does anything know anyway of freeezing it i mean keep it running in the background, without having the android reset the emulators status after a while in the background
that way rather than save state we could resume it and open up from the background and resume our games that way(bit like the xperia play emulator resume method).
i've tried other mame emulators they support save state but dont support dip switches this is pointless as i always like upping the difficulty in my games. mame4droid allows this.
p.s i already tried freezing mame4droid with titanium backup,
no joy
after unfreezing the app resets itself and u lose your rom status.
any help is much appreciated.

Dosbox Turbo - Xplay update

Dosbox Turbo was just updated to allow Xperia Play button mapping / screenshot of the new mapping page attached

FTAiii said:
Dosbox Turbo was just updated to allow Xperia Play button mapping / screenshot of the new mapping page attached
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SWEET....... now... time to fire up WING COMMANDER...... HAHAHAHAHA

...If this works as it should there are some amazing possibilities here.

It doesn't seem to allow for different mapping profiles for different games, just 1 generic mapping, but agree - lots of possibilities !
I'm gonna go work up some mappings for Ultima IV !

Ahh i tried to search for people discussing this and i didn't find anything and posted a topic lmao... some1 shared the link to here.

$2.99 tempting. Now while Wing Commander was already said.. Ill say another that I could see myself playing..
Shufflepuck Cafe and Bar Games!
Hrm.. Install Win95.. yes this could have some options..

Just bought it myself
been playing
commander keen
jill of the jungle
sim city 2000
monster bash
castle of the winds
daggerfell

Does this mean you could play Daytona USA on the xplay?
I remember playing Daytone USA in DOS mode back in the day.

Ok with the on screen mouse, I just got done playing Nukewar (Fun fun game)
Playing Bargames right now. Need to map the X to be the enter button.
Also learned the option use the dpad as an input toggle is worth using. Easier for those up down left rights in the game.
Profile mapping WOULD be nice.
Edit: Ok one flaw in this program.. How on earth can I map the space bar or the enter key to a button...? So many games play like this.

Could someone check Sensbile World Of Soccer 98, Manchester United The Double and Lous 1,2,3 ? How does it works ? I thinking about buying this emulator.

TheVicious said:
Could someone check Sensbile World Of Soccer 98, Manchester United The Double and Lous 1,2,3 ? How does it works ? I thinking about buying this emulator.
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So far, every game I have tried worked without config. Also Any GoG game that uses dosbox works. (Oooo I forgot.. I can play Dungeon Keeper on android now)
ONLY issue I have seen be meh, is that I cant map enter or spacebar to a gamepad key. Also has sometimes an issue with screen rotation. (Gets stuck in landscape mode sometimes when I NEED it vertical while I type on keyboard) Minor gripe, but so far its solid.

Just contacted the dev of dosbox turbo with the comments from this thread. He said the ability to map enter and spacebar will be in the next release. Also I asked about the possible profile loading for those who needs "x" mapping for "x" game.

Oh god, if this thing can actually run daggerfall fullspeed I'm gonna cry. Did anyone try that? How does it run? And what about the controls? On andosbox it ran really slow, and I couldn't get some of the controls to even work.

Interesting, Managed to get a Windows 95 image booted, it crashed the explorer.exe but still started up.. http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=24936 to make your own win 95 image (if you dont just download a predone one)
This really is starting to look good. =D

Hello Everybody,
I'm the author of DosBox Turbo. One of the members here kindly pointed out this thread to me today and suggested I drop by.
Wanted to let you know that I'm sorry for leaving out the "Enter" and "Space" mappings, it just slipped my mind! But, the good news is, I'm finishing up a quick bugfix release (v1.2.1) and some of the new Xperia Play specific features I already have completed include:
Ability to map Enter & Space to an Xperia Button
Ability to see what current button mappings are w/o having to select each one.
Once I'm finished testing this release, I'll push it out to the Android Market (sometime on Mon or Tue).
I'd be very interested to hear your feedback/suggestions for new features, as I do not have an Xperia Play, so I'm just coding this stuff up without really having a chance to test it. Some of the new features I have planned for the very near future include being able to use the Analog touchpad on the Xperia Play as a true analog joystick, as well as supporting saving button/configuration profiles.
Cheers,
Gene

Thanks for taking the time to drop in and let us know what you have in the pipeline, i actually just bought your app earlier today and have been playing raptor call of shadows, im also looking around for other dos classics i missed when i was younger, the games i would never probably bother with on a pc haha.
the suggested improvements are pretty much everything i could ask for off the top of my head, keep up the good work.

Gene.. Question, Can one do a Ctrl+Alt+Del? Also later down the road, a "windows" key could be good.
Been fiddling with this booting of Windows 95 lol. Another thing that could be nice is a "reset dosbox" option in menu vs "exit" and reloading.

Mysticales said:
Gene.. Question, Can one do a Ctrl+Alt+Del? Also later down the road, a "windows" key could be good.
Been fiddling with this booting of Windows 95 lol. Another thing that could be nice is a "reset dosbox" option in menu vs "exit" and reloading.
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As far as I'm aware, DosBox proper doesn't support a reset function or CTRL-ALT-DEL (correct me if I'm wrong). I did a bit of research on this, and it seems to be somewhat difficult to implement (reference this thread over in the DosBox forums) for various reasons. On Android, it would be possible to kill the app and restart it via a button, but it wouldn't be much different than hitting exit and starting over. I'll look into a way of cleanly implementing such a feature in a future version if you guys feel it would be beneficial.
By the way, there is a thread over on the ASUS transformer forums with some people having success running Windows 95/98. I also recorded a video of an old version of DosBox Turbo running Windows 95. I apologize in advance for the poor video quality and lack of sound (I was using an old camera phone to record it).
Edit: I forgot to answer your Q. about the windows key. I'll add the windows key for you extreme users running Windows. =)

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Mael5trom said:
Thanks for taking the time to drop in and let us know what you have in the pipeline, i actually just bought your app earlier today and have been playing raptor call of shadows, im also looking around for other dos classics i missed when i was younger, the games i would never probably bother with on a pc haha.
the suggested improvements are pretty much everything i could ask for off the top of my head, keep up the good work.
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Sure! Happy to drop in an answer some questions. I'm a big RTS Fan (Warcraft II, etc). In case there are any other RTS fans here, I can certainly recommend playing Warcraft II and set the Mouse Tracking mode to "absolute" and in the Gesture Configuration map the Double-Click to "right click". This will allow you to tap once for left click, and double-tap for rightclicks to move units. Long Press and drag your finger to highlight units. Makes playing RTS games very comfortable on the Touchscreen alone.