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HTC Engineers at Taiwan Trade Show

I am in Taipei this week and there is a huge trade show going on. Don't know the exact name other than it is next door to the Grand Hyatt.
HTC has a very large both with engineers so I had the great pleasure of talking with the HTC Design engineering guys.
Some conversation points:
The HTC Touch Cruise/Polaris is unknown on actual launch dates.
The HTC Engineerins know that Taiwan is getting the Polaris devices sometime in February.
TomTom software may or may not be on the device. It depends on the carriers agreements and the distributors packaging, sku's, etc
There is a Google software is being looked at and HTC does have a dedicated engineer working with Google and the SDK package for future devices. I did ask if we would be able to upgrade current platforms to the Google phone software and I got a 'probably not' response. (At least I tried)
As promised - Pics -
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Can you ask them if they thought Kaiser owners would use their GPS indoors when they blessed the device with transmissive LCDs

Sometime in February, damn HTC keeps pushing the release date away...

kinda silly to use google for gps if one
1. have to pay pr. mb downloaded
2. drive in places where gprs/edge/... is weak or absent

joeyyoung said:
I am in Taipei this week and there is a huge trade show going on. Don't know the exact name other than it is next door to the Grand Hyatt.
HTC has a very large both with engineers so I had the great pleasure of talking with the HTC Design engineering guys.
Some conversation points:
The HTC Touch Cruise/Polaris is unknown on actual launch dates.
The HTC Engineerins know that Taiwan is getting the Polaris devices sometime in February.
TomTom software may or may not be on the device. It depends on the carriers agreements and the distributors packaging, sku's, etc
There is a Google software is being looked at and HTC does have a dedicated engineer working with Google and the SDK package for future devices. I did ask if we would be able to upgrade current platforms to the Google phone software and I got a 'probably not' response. (At least I tried)
I will post pics later -
Enjoy -
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Bah i dunno then how can so many big shops schedule the Polaris for 10 of december and 18 of december.
I dunno how we have reviews...
I dunno how HTC Europe website has Polaris btw products list with a complete specs page.
Stop making terrorism and let us have our Polaris on december, man

Can you go back and ask them about the DirectX drivers?
Surur

surur said:
Can you go back and ask them about the DirectX drivers?
Surur
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Exactly! This for me is the MAJOR question. Also about Kaiser....I'm still choosing which one shall I pick...
Please........try to clarify this issue once and for all....

I will try to back over there this evening to get a response on the DirectX question and the others.
Just to clarify, the Google SDK is for the new Google Cell Phone OS/ROM/Firmware. Not just GPS feature. It is called ANDROID and is the Mobile Phone Software that Google is hoping to be the alternative to WM5/6. Follow the embedded link to see the videos of the phone software.

I tried getting back over to the trade show but the engineers were already gone for the day. Sorry -

Better luck next time
ThankX for your effort anyway!
Bye!

Nokia - Windows Mobile Smartphone

This week CTIA Wireless 2008 trade show takes place (April 1-3, Las Vegas), that is one of the most important events, when it comes to wireless industry in USA, and it is USA where Nokia smartphones have rather tiny market share (elsewhere being market leaders) so no wonder, that Nokia has picked, of all trade shows, exactly this one, to reveal their first Windows Mobile phone - Nokia 61wm:
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Interestingly, unlike Sony Ericsson, Nokia has picked touch-screen-less version of Windows Mobile - so called "Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard" (formerly known as "Microsoft smartphone" platform) and unlike Sony Ericsson Nokia intends to continue to use their Symbain S60 operting system for their flagship smartphones, and Windows Mobile will be used only for enterprise oriented customers in U.S. American market.
We must admit however, that Nokia 61wm (pictured above) is a rather underpowerd phone but it is a very important first step. Nokia has been licensing from Microsoft various kinds of technologies, including DRM, Windows Media formats, wireless ActiveSync (push e-mail) and Microsoft and Nokia even signed a deal about Silverlight for Nokia's Symbian S60 phones... so time was ripe to conclude this good cooperation with final step: Nokia licensing Windows Mobile.
More details about Nokia-Microsoft deal will be announced tomorrow at CTIA by Robert Bach from Microsoft, who will be giving keynote on 9:00am local time.
Stay tuned for our coverage!
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Nokia WM Smartphone - sounds funny

i feel like that about all breaking news stories i read on this date

It's an APRIL's FOOL joke....
I was a victim of it also...

Ahh, but I had the E71 in my hands and it blows away any Nokia QWERTY phone ever made and that is no joke....

http://discussions.mea.nokia.com/t5...-for-Nokia-N8-for-T-mobile-network/m-p/859637

I like your April fool jock, hehehhe
nice,
pakhot

ccpaulin said:
It's an APRIL's FOOL joke....
I was a victim of it also...
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Talk about irony ... the joke is now on Nokia.
I'm keeping an open mind and considering moving on ... to WM 7 or Android, which is why I joined this forum. But I sure wish Nokia could have figured things out after truly pioneering/pushing forward smartphones! They really lost their way.

nokia could have atleast gone the android way...why MS of all the people...is it because the present chief was connected to MS?? hmm...makes one wonder! <one more post for me>

Windows Mobile 6.5 first Screen Shots

It's not much but better than nothing
http://www.smartphonefrance.info/commentaires.asp?ID=4812

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http://www.smartphonefrance.info/news/wm651.jpg

I just wish we 6.1 owners can get this update but that's not going to happen.

well greats...for РРС ed. screens will be?

Dated Sep 26, why wait this long to put the screenshots up ? I wonder.....

We may not get "official" upgrades but the kind folks around here will probably find some use for it.

Looks pretty cool!
I do believe that the odds for a free upgrade to 6.5 is possible. Just like 6.0 was upgraded to 6.1, so should 6.1 be upgraded to 6.5.
The only thing that would stop it would be if the device is too slow to handle the new version. But you shouldn't hope for a free upgrade to WM 7

Not to go off-topic but it is dispointing that we might need another upgrade just to get the new mobile IE 6.0.

Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
Also, the 6.5 will probably be required for the new IE because of the HTML rendering engine also being used for Pocket Outlook, XML reading, etc.
I *believe* 6.5 should run fine on the current generation of HTC handsets... but WM7 is designed for the "next generation" of handsets - google nVidia's Tegra chipset to learn about this.

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Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
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Well, that's a pretty good reason, isn't it?

GTRoberts said:
Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
Also, the 6.5 will probably be required for the new IE because of the HTML rendering engine also being used for Pocket Outlook, XML reading, etc.
I *believe* 6.5 should run fine on the current generation of HTC handsets... but WM7 is designed for the "next generation" of handsets - google nVidia's Tegra chipset to learn about this.
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Not only that, but the battery and signal strength indicators are transposed on the 2 shots, and it looks nothing like the preview screens of WM7 we've seen. Also, MS like screen layouts to have a logical progression, and that honeycomb layout is rather... chaotic.
It's a photoshop, and not the best on either.

Fake
Fakes for me too
And it's even more simple than that : since when Microsoft put the phone function of these devices in the first place ? Putting Microsoft Media Player in the center of the screen is more correct lol
But there is a lot of other reasons and the first one is : what a new version of Windows Mobile and the first roms are not on XDA ? Impossible, XDA is the best !

I'm making a WAD2 theme based off the second screenshot... it should be done this weekend. (or at least a beta version).

Blog program for Leo?

Anyone who knows about a blog program for Leo? I used iPhone before, and had a genius blog program innstalled. But I cant seem to find anything for WM 6.5/Leo.
Any ideas? Thanks for looking/helping

I would like to announce that I am a new proud owner if the HD2.
secOndly I would also like to know of blogging software as I hve a blog at http://blog.levifreeman.com

That is because on iPhone there is an app for just about anything and for windows mobile nothing, i too made the mistake and switched from an iPhone 3GS to an HD2 and regret the day i did it. On iPhone i had all kind of great apps, games etc and now i cant find anything equivalent for windows mobile. The marketplace is a joke. I am searching for a week now for a good financial program with nice and touch friendly interface and i cant find anything. If you look on the appstore for such a program you can find hundreds of them. I will definitely switch back to iPhone, but the only thing i regret is that HD2 is such a marvelous device and is let down by windows mobile.

I agree and not agree with you savvase. I love my iPhone and the apps on it, but I think its to earli to get so hard against HD2 and windows mobile. I only use mac, and until now have I had iPhone, since 1 gen. (upgraded to 2gen and 3GS) When the 1 gen iPhone came, the app store didnt look like it do now today. It didnt take long time before the programs came, but I think we should give W marketplace a chance to build up. Even if iPhone is big on the mobile market, its many WM users also. I dont says it will turn into a big sucess, and it will overcome the iPhone. If the "wanna knowers" are correct, the WM 7.0 will release next year. Who knows? It might be a big surprice for us?
I miss a lot of the apps on my iPhone (the reason to this thread ) but I think I will manage without a lot of them, while I give the HD2 a chance. For me the HD2 has so much other goodies, that I will keep it for a while and test But ! I will also keep my iPhone in backup
If my english is broken or bad, I'm very sorry. Its not my national language
But ! Is there anyone with a solution to my problem?

Unfortunately i don't think you can find such an app on windows mobile and if one arrives it will definitely not have the same functionality and user interface as the ones on iPhone but since you kept your iPhone you can continue updating your blog from your iPhone.

Thats true !
But until it shows up something, I belive...
And ! keeping my iPhone for blogging...

savvase said:
Unfortunately i don't think you can find such an app on windows mobile and if one arrives it will definitely not have the same functionality and user interface as the ones on iPhone but since you kept your iPhone you can continue updating your blog from your iPhone.
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There are also tons of financial apps for Windows Mobile. But unlike on iPhone, you have to search for them on the internet yourself. The marketplace for WM just started and you shouldn't expect to find the same amount of apps as you do in AppStore.
I think both platforms have their advantages and disadvantages.
If you use iPhone you can download anything from AppStore real quick. But on the other hand you are limited to AppStore, unless you "hack" your iPhone.
On Windows Mobile you don't have such a nice AppStore (not yet, might come, who knows ), but you're also not limited to it. You can download and install anything you find from any source you like and from any developer you can find. That's also nice.
And with more and more "touchable" Smartphones based on WM, you'll also find more and more fingerfriendly apps.
You must see, that the iPhone is only one kind of device, which developers create apps for. WM is found on tons of different devices, each with different ways for data input. Some have touch-abilitys, some don't.
It's quite the same thing as the comparison of Macs and PCs.

What about MobiBlogr - not sure if its compatible with HD2 but its here: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-mobiblogr-v1-3-3.html

Thanks jengla, I will have a look at that.
I used Blogpress on iPhone, and I hoped for a similiar app for WM. I have tried three blog programs for WM now, and two dosent work propably, and the last one, is to simple.
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Microsoft reveals Windows 8 desktop UI changes, drops Aero Glass

SOURCE : Kickedface
Microsoft has revealed that it has made some big changes to its desktop UI for Windows 8, which includes moving away from Aero Glass — the UI first introduced with Vista. According to the company, this means visual changes that include "flattening surfaces, removing reflections, and scaling back distracting gradients." Source : TheVerge
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Despite all of these changes with the interface, the company doesn't appear to be worried about the issue of "learnability." Instead, Microsoft believes that with a little help it won't take long for users to adapt to the new operating system. "We will help people get off on the right foot," the company explained in a blog post, "and we have confidence that people will quickly find the new paradigms to be second-nature."
While Microsoft admits that there have been some usability issues with certain gestures in the Consumer Preview, the company says that this is not an issue with people coming to grips with the concept, but instead a problem with the early state of the OS — internal builds are already "significantly improved," according to Microsoft, so we should see an easier-to-use Windows 8 when the Release Preview launches next month.
The post also packs a great dose of nostalgia, as the team looks back at interface issues dating all the way to Windows 1 in 1985. Be sure to check out the source link below for a trip down memory lane.

Windows Explorer is completely white?!!
These people are insane. Aero interface was wonderful, this is just ugly...

Morpheus NS said:
Windows Explorer is completely white?!!
These people are insane. Aero interface was wonderful, this is just ugly...
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I like this one. We can change The Color i think..maybe.

surprised to see this in "Android general"
anyway win8 dissapoints me more with every new news, the ui looks washed out.

window 8 sucks

Think you posted in the wrong forum. Anyways I'm surprised they are getting rid of aero. Now that hardware has caught up even low end netbooks are able to run aero on Windows 7, this wasn't the case in early 2007 when Vista arrived. Why axe something that technology has finally caught up with?
I'm seeing less and less reasons to upgrade from Windows 7 when 8 comes out. Windows 7 will become the next XP.

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Think you posted in the wrong forum. Anyways I'm surprised they are getting rid of aero. Now that hardware has caught up even low end netbooks are able to run aero on Windows 7, this wasn't the case in early 2007 when Vista arrived. Why axe something that technology has finally caught up with?
I'm seeing less and less reasons to upgrade from Windows 7 when 8 comes out. Windows 7 will become the next XP.
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****. I posted it here. Ahaha Mistake.

They use the ribbon interface for the explorer. :banghead:
I'd love to meet whoever is responsible for this and personally punch him in the face.