This week CTIA Wireless 2008 trade show takes place (April 1-3, Las Vegas), that is one of the most important events, when it comes to wireless industry in USA, and it is USA where Nokia smartphones have rather tiny market share (elsewhere being market leaders) so no wonder, that Nokia has picked, of all trade shows, exactly this one, to reveal their first Windows Mobile phone - Nokia 61wm:
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Interestingly, unlike Sony Ericsson, Nokia has picked touch-screen-less version of Windows Mobile - so called "Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard" (formerly known as "Microsoft smartphone" platform) and unlike Sony Ericsson Nokia intends to continue to use their Symbain S60 operting system for their flagship smartphones, and Windows Mobile will be used only for enterprise oriented customers in U.S. American market.
We must admit however, that Nokia 61wm (pictured above) is a rather underpowerd phone but it is a very important first step. Nokia has been licensing from Microsoft various kinds of technologies, including DRM, Windows Media formats, wireless ActiveSync (push e-mail) and Microsoft and Nokia even signed a deal about Silverlight for Nokia's Symbian S60 phones... so time was ripe to conclude this good cooperation with final step: Nokia licensing Windows Mobile.
More details about Nokia-Microsoft deal will be announced tomorrow at CTIA by Robert Bach from Microsoft, who will be giving keynote on 9:00am local time.
Stay tuned for our coverage!
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Nokia WM Smartphone - sounds funny
i feel like that about all breaking news stories i read on this date
It's an APRIL's FOOL joke....
I was a victim of it also...
Ahh, but I had the E71 in my hands and it blows away any Nokia QWERTY phone ever made and that is no joke....
http://discussions.mea.nokia.com/t5...-for-Nokia-N8-for-T-mobile-network/m-p/859637
I like your April fool jock, hehehhe
nice,
pakhot
ccpaulin said:
It's an APRIL's FOOL joke....
I was a victim of it also...
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Talk about irony ... the joke is now on Nokia.
I'm keeping an open mind and considering moving on ... to WM 7 or Android, which is why I joined this forum. But I sure wish Nokia could have figured things out after truly pioneering/pushing forward smartphones! They really lost their way.
nokia could have atleast gone the android way...why MS of all the people...is it because the present chief was connected to MS?? hmm...makes one wonder! <one more post for me>
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I'm not the conspiracy theorist type but this is quite interesting. I wouldn't worry about the government at all but the ability of someone with malicious intent exploiting this intentional backdoor.
It just got posted to Bugtraq (securityfocus.com mailing list).
Subject:Cryptome: NSA has access to Windows Mobile smartphones
Juha-Matti Laurio
To: [email protected]
A widely known Web site Cryptome has released information about backdooring Microsoft Windows machines today.
According to the post National Security Agency has access both stand-alone systems and networks running Microsoft products.
The post states the following:
"This includes wireless wiretapping of “smart phones” running Microsoft Mobile.
Microsoft remote administrative privileges allow “backdooring” into Microsoft operating systems via IP/TCP ports 1024 through 1030."
According to the Cryptome's source this is typically triggered when devices visit Microsoft Update servers.
Cryptome.org:
http://cryptome.org/nsa-ip-update11.htm
SecuriTeam Blogs:
http://blogs.securiteam.com/?p=1028
- Juha-Matti
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It is an old news for Windows Desktop users, then we can supouse that it is the same thing for other Windows devices.
World Domination is the word, precisely not from MS.
Regards,
Taguapire.
And welcome digg.....
thank you
Thank you for the warm welcome
-digg
That "stupid" thing is absolutely normal... only free Linux machines are clean from backdoors, even from NSA backdoors... and only if you aren't using nsa selinux encryption algorythm.
For the rest, all of the operating systems produced by a software house such as Microsoft, Novell or other are backdoored by NSA.
Motorola SinergyOS is even backdoored by NSA, and SinergyOS is a simple OS for simple Motorola phones (you can find it on all phones, starting from the old T720i... except a few linux and windows mobile phones.. even backdoored). But all the world is backdoored from NSA. Not only Motorola... that was only an example..
You're simply in the hands of your government....and in the hands of HACKERS.
Isn't that part of the FCC requirements? That the devices cannot cause interference, and can be interfeared upon? ie, backdoored.
Its all a pile of crap... don't believe everything you read. There are NO NSA (or any other) backdoors in Windows, Windows Mobile, etc etc.
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Wtf!? Microsoft Silverlight will be soon available for Nokia Symbian S60 devices, it will be demonstrated by microsoft in march...
More info: http://symbian-freak.com/news/008/03/silverlight_experiences_to_s60_users.htm
I'm getting more and more frustrated with windows mobile... Now S60 already have Flash Lite 3 (which apparently Adobe won't even develope for windows mobile ) and soon they'll have Silverlight aswell...
Is Microsoft giving up on windows mobile?
No, they're not. Try reading this.
MS are just adding Symbian to it's list of supported OSs, nothing more.
Thanks for the info.
reading the title I was shocked!!!
I was about to get tight and throw my phone into the toilet, but then I read the rest.
I don't know why they're moving so slow when it comes to things like this on windows mobile. Microsoft should of already have a wm version of silverlight out.
and adobe frig them, they could use my socks to make soup when their really cheezy for all I care.
Silverlight should get a lot of market share and pose a competition to flash, because adobe is moving real slow,
I guess then they would speed up the development cycle.
is there any side by side comparison of silverlight video vs adobe video? which has the better quality with the least file size?
does anyone know or have a clue or even a guess on this matter?
Guys, AIR/Flash and Silverlight are very different propositions.
Silverlight is/will eventually plug into .net (according to Bill Gates, who I had the pleasure of seeing at the VS2008 launch in London last month), bringing a huge amount of power to the platform(s).
However, AIR/Flash is light, well established, and will potentially have a massive user base ready to go. Silverlight still has a long way to go there - a solution without much of a problem at this time. Hence, Silverlight being pimped to every man and his dog.
Filesizes etc are a premature consideration at this time. It's likely developers will use the platform that will get them the best exposure with the least pain.
And, as others have observed, in the end, both platforms are likely to co-exist.
But putting Silverlight on Symbian devices is certainly not an abandoning of Windows Mobile - anything that can further entrench users in the Windows environment can only be good for Microsoft, right? Even if that is Microsoft on a Nokia.
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actually, they're not premature. I wanted to see the video quality on the same video to know which one would give a better view and less strain on the eyes. I do believe file size plays a huge role, well for me at least, because if silverlight videos take up less space and gives me superior or equal quality, they silverlight it is.
Hey everyone!
I am curious as to if anyone has checked out MarketPlace and if there is a current WinMo6.5 ROM open to the public or otherwise that has MarketPlace build in?
I must have MarketPlace asap!!!!!!!!
I appreciate all the questions and taltin shoulfe
I think this Opinion Piece says it all... Requires WM 6.5 ??
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Pocket PC Talk (http://forums.thoughtsmedia.com/f322/)
Windows Mobile Marketplace: For Unicorns Only (http://forums.thoughtsmedia.com/f322/windows-mobile-marketplace-unicorns-only-93202.html)
by Jason Dunn 04-01-2009 11:00 PM
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Marketplace is going to be for Windows Mobile 6.5 phones only, not back-ported to Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.0 phones. That's right - the millions and millions of Windows Mobile phones out there today (40+ million I'd say in the past few years alone) will not have access to this forthcoming software directory. Only people that buy brand new phones, or perhaps a tiny percentage that will get a 6.5 upgrade for their phone, will be able to access this. They might as well made it available only to unicorns - both are mythical at this moment in time.
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... Apple made the App Store available to not only new iPhone 3G owners, but first-generation iPhone owners, and owners of both first and second generation iPod Touch owners. For developers, that means millions and millions of customers that are only a few taps away from trying, and buying, their software. Overnight millionaires were made by the Apple App Store because Apple put it in front of so many customers at once. This is the right way to do it.
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... They finally get around to doing an application store after an early effort got deep-sixed by their own corporate culture, and what do they do? They make the choice to limit it to users of phones that haven't even been made yet - with Windows Mobile 6.5 not due on phones until Q4 of this year, and with phone networks (in North America at least) carrying seemingly fewer and fewer Windows Mobile phones than ever, it seems like the Windows Mobile Marketplace is going to have a rocky start. ... This was Microsoft's best chance to woo developers back into the fold, and they've botched it - badly.
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Gizmodo's overview.
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And a snip from Microsoft.com's current "Mobile Catalog"
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Lastly, some of you may know that an XDA-user initiated a WindowsMobile Apps store some time ago, codenamed "Gecko" (an unfortunate name they just wont give up, despite it heavily branded connected to Mozilla's web rendering engine that's been around for years)
Gecko Development Website
XDA Thread
I followed this for a while, and there was UI development from various contributors, as well as underlying code. Not sure where it stands.
d474rpr said:
Hey everyone!
I am curious as to if anyone has checked out MarketPlace and if there is a current WinMo6.5 ROM open to the public or otherwise that has MarketPlace build in?
I must have MarketPlace asap!!!!!!!!
I appreciate all the questions and taltin shoulfe
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I appreciate all the wonderful information but I'm not looking for it in a consumer capacity. I already have 6.5 loaded and running and would like to see the WinMob Market Place as a "research project", for lack of better words.
I'm not sure I quite understand what you mean by research project?
Since your on the Wing, check out my website! Link in my signiture right below this.
Here is a little snippet from the article that you can find HERE
“Eldar Murtazin, the eternal Nokia antagonist, claims to have the inside scoop on Nokia’s current Windows Phone device plans while getting an early hands-on with a prototype. Besides demonstrating a natural extension of the Nokia naming strategy to accommodate the new Windows Phone devices, Eldar tells us that model W7 is built around an X7 hardware base while the new W8 handset is a variant of Nokia’s N8 cameraphone (conceptualized in the above pic). According to Eldar, all of Nokia’s WP prototypes are built upon Qualcomm chipsets per Microsoft’s requirement (and Nokia’s dismay). The W7 model is currently being used in-house for development purposes and will likely be the first to market, according to Eldar, with an 8 megapixel autofocus camera and flash.”
In the article you can see information about Dual core also, i mean if they dont put out dual core, they are gonna loose it.
I'm waiting for
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let me know when it comes out.
windows 7 on nokia phones is a good thought! But I think they should also have android phones...
I bet enthusiasts will install Android on the WP7 phones once they are out
The touchscreen and 2.X-hype has killed a lot of other features in cellphones. What happened to the real xenon based flash? Today, only Nokia use them in their cellphones and i H-A-T-E slowbian.
OakNinja said:
The touchscreen and 2.X-hype has killed a lot of other features in cellphones. What happened to the real xenon based flash? Today, only Nokia use them in their cellphones and i H-A-T-E slowbian.
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Well kinda agree with you
just say, i love android more.
Nice phones though Look nicer than their Symbian devices
Nokia could well be the solution to embracing the average consumer to WP7!
Still have my 3310 to this very day and it works 100% as well (despite pretty hard abuse - dropped down a full flight of stairs, case broke but easily replaced back in the day with a massive variety of available aftermarket ones)
Just as we've seen from past experiences, WhatsApp has once again, decided to end support for more Blackberry devices running on Blackberry 10 OS and Windows Phones running Windows 8.0 version and below. According to Blackberry Support Page and WhatsApp FAQ Page.
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I don't know this thingy that WhatsApp has with Blackberry devices, but i think that WhatsApp has naturally grown into hating Blackberry devices.
The world's most popular messaging app has once again decided to do a routine check in it's list of devices and by doing so, they've decided to shutdown operation on more blackberry devices and this time that targeting the blackberry 10 devices, such as the Blackberry Q series and the Z series, and Windows Phones running on version 8.0.
Support for Windows 7.0, Android 2.1 and 2.2 Froyo, and iOS 6 were shut down last year 2016.
And these are the list of devices that wouldn't be supporting WhatsApp in the near future..
1. Nokia Symbian s60 will be ending support on June 30 2017.
2. Nokia Symbian s40 will be terminating their support on December 31 2018
3. While Android 2.3.7 and older versions will go on until February 1 2020.
So Blackberry 10 and Windows Phone 8.0 owners, get ready for the next big thing. I think this is a best time to consider upgrading to an Android device, at least an Android 5.0 Lollipop device wouldn't be a bad idea at all.
So guys, that is it for now, sorry to those who are currently being affected by this new development from WhatsApp.
Let us know what you think of this move from WhatsApp, is it a smart move or just something to frustrate Blackberry and its users as a whole?
Bye and have a nice day. and Merry Christmas to All of Us.
Sad to hear that.
I have blackberry Q10 and I am using whatsapp
Installed from android APK file.