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Microsoft Silverlight for Nokia S60!

Wtf!? Microsoft Silverlight will be soon available for Nokia Symbian S60 devices, it will be demonstrated by microsoft in march...
More info: http://symbian-freak.com/news/008/03/silverlight_experiences_to_s60_users.htm
I'm getting more and more frustrated with windows mobile... Now S60 already have Flash Lite 3 (which apparently Adobe won't even develope for windows mobile ) and soon they'll have Silverlight aswell...
Is Microsoft giving up on windows mobile?

No, they're not. Try reading this.
MS are just adding Symbian to it's list of supported OSs, nothing more.

Thanks for the info.

reading the title I was shocked!!!
I was about to get tight and throw my phone into the toilet, but then I read the rest.
I don't know why they're moving so slow when it comes to things like this on windows mobile. Microsoft should of already have a wm version of silverlight out.
and adobe frig them, they could use my socks to make soup when their really cheezy for all I care.
Silverlight should get a lot of market share and pose a competition to flash, because adobe is moving real slow,
I guess then they would speed up the development cycle.

is there any side by side comparison of silverlight video vs adobe video? which has the better quality with the least file size?
does anyone know or have a clue or even a guess on this matter?

Guys, AIR/Flash and Silverlight are very different propositions.
Silverlight is/will eventually plug into .net (according to Bill Gates, who I had the pleasure of seeing at the VS2008 launch in London last month), bringing a huge amount of power to the platform(s).
However, AIR/Flash is light, well established, and will potentially have a massive user base ready to go. Silverlight still has a long way to go there - a solution without much of a problem at this time. Hence, Silverlight being pimped to every man and his dog.
Filesizes etc are a premature consideration at this time. It's likely developers will use the platform that will get them the best exposure with the least pain.
And, as others have observed, in the end, both platforms are likely to co-exist.
But putting Silverlight on Symbian devices is certainly not an abandoning of Windows Mobile - anything that can further entrench users in the Windows environment can only be good for Microsoft, right? Even if that is Microsoft on a Nokia.
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actually, they're not premature. I wanted to see the video quality on the same video to know which one would give a better view and less strain on the eyes. I do believe file size plays a huge role, well for me at least, because if silverlight videos take up less space and gives me superior or equal quality, they silverlight it is.

Nokia - Windows Mobile Smartphone

This week CTIA Wireless 2008 trade show takes place (April 1-3, Las Vegas), that is one of the most important events, when it comes to wireless industry in USA, and it is USA where Nokia smartphones have rather tiny market share (elsewhere being market leaders) so no wonder, that Nokia has picked, of all trade shows, exactly this one, to reveal their first Windows Mobile phone - Nokia 61wm:
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Interestingly, unlike Sony Ericsson, Nokia has picked touch-screen-less version of Windows Mobile - so called "Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard" (formerly known as "Microsoft smartphone" platform) and unlike Sony Ericsson Nokia intends to continue to use their Symbain S60 operting system for their flagship smartphones, and Windows Mobile will be used only for enterprise oriented customers in U.S. American market.
We must admit however, that Nokia 61wm (pictured above) is a rather underpowerd phone but it is a very important first step. Nokia has been licensing from Microsoft various kinds of technologies, including DRM, Windows Media formats, wireless ActiveSync (push e-mail) and Microsoft and Nokia even signed a deal about Silverlight for Nokia's Symbian S60 phones... so time was ripe to conclude this good cooperation with final step: Nokia licensing Windows Mobile.
More details about Nokia-Microsoft deal will be announced tomorrow at CTIA by Robert Bach from Microsoft, who will be giving keynote on 9:00am local time.
Stay tuned for our coverage!
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Nokia WM Smartphone - sounds funny

i feel like that about all breaking news stories i read on this date

It's an APRIL's FOOL joke....
I was a victim of it also...

Ahh, but I had the E71 in my hands and it blows away any Nokia QWERTY phone ever made and that is no joke....

http://discussions.mea.nokia.com/t5...-for-Nokia-N8-for-T-mobile-network/m-p/859637

I like your April fool jock, hehehhe
nice,
pakhot

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It's an APRIL's FOOL joke....
I was a victim of it also...
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Talk about irony ... the joke is now on Nokia.
I'm keeping an open mind and considering moving on ... to WM 7 or Android, which is why I joined this forum. But I sure wish Nokia could have figured things out after truly pioneering/pushing forward smartphones! They really lost their way.

nokia could have atleast gone the android way...why MS of all the people...is it because the present chief was connected to MS?? hmm...makes one wonder! <one more post for me>

What is it? what can I do with it?

I bought a new phone/pda but can't identify what it is or what its running. it's model no is A858 and is IPTV compatable whatever that means. all the instruction are in Chinese. and there seems to be no way of messing with the software or adding progs as I don't know what it is running on, just says "Windows push technology" Help please.........

is this it? it doesnt run windows, it doenst look like...
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network frequency is "900/1800MHZ" which means its GSM, which means you can use it with everyone pretty much except Verizon but they might not be able to activate it since its a foreign model, but i think you are out of luck here anyway since the developers on this site program for windows mobile (which it doesnt run)
p.s.- IPTV stands for Internet Protocol Television...not sure what the heck that means in terms of your phone though

yes. It comes up with the windows logo & says "Windows push technology" in the startup screen, other than that I have no idea?

well, "push technolgoy", whether its windows or apple or whoever makes it...just means that your phone has the capability of constantly checking for email, messages, etc....it means that you can set it to check for email (if you have a data plan), ever 5, 10, or 15 minutes, etc...if you wish. data is constantly being 'pushed" to and from your phone, that's all it means, so it looks like you have a limited user interface, not windows by any stretch, but still microsoft based technology, while the base rom is probably made by some 3rd party subsidiary of the company that makes the phone.
so not supported by microsoft, but still usable.

Thank you for your prompt reply on this. It is a good phone but limited on it's PDA side, Music wise is excellent as it has an extremely loud MP3 player and plays videos downloaded from the net or from my own camera....It's just a bit annoying that the PDA section is worse than useless... but your help is appreciated

Windows Mobile Appstore screenshot and video

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Some key point that are expected to be announced are
* 24 hours to return any application they purchase for a full refund.
* purchased on the phone or through a Web site
* billing handled by credit card or through the wireless carrier’s bill
* store within a store on Windows Marketplace for Mobile ( for carriers )
Video : via 1800PocketPC.com
more info @ CTIA 2009

I checked out the web site. So far it's a complete failure.
From: http://jordanmillscom.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!86E0371A36435FA2!2155.entry?&_c02_vws=1
So the new windows mobile site pretty much sucks
I’ve caught some hype about new versions of the windows mobile apps coming out this week, so I decided to check it out. I was completely underwhelmed.
The servers are dead slow, they’re full of popups, and it basically boils down to two pages that say “download now!” that direct to each other. There’s no actual download.
Don’t believe the hype, this one is a fail.
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Great idea, horrible execution.

Looks awsome, but a copy from apple

jordanmills said:
I checked out the web site. So far it's a complete failure.
From: http://jordanmillscom.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!86E0371A36435FA2!2155.entry?&_c02_vws=1
Great idea, horrible execution.
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Maybe the software isn't out yet...

I just want it (software version) to be available for WM 6.1 users.

Guys you want to buy from MS? Did you think about the excellent support they're going to offer? Ha ha..
Check out the new Windows Mobile App Store at www.WinMoAppStore.com Excellent support, No download protection or other crappy hidden costs!
Regards,
Carty..

derekwilkinson said:
Maybe the software isn't out yet...
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Then why do they have download links all over? I think that was part of my point.

Anti-Virus and Firewall - Needed on WM?

I just installed a pretty slick little program that claims to be an antivirus, firewall, data backup, phone locator, etc. But that got me wondering... I would never ever connect my pc to the internet without heavy-duty firewall and antivirus software running. But I've never had it on my HTC HD2 running WM 6.5.5. Is it even necessary?
I've never seen an alert about a virus on this board or any blog/column sites. Is such software needed? Is it just a case of "playing it safe"?
Thought?
Thanks!

It's not really worth having any Antimalware or firewall on a Windows Mobile device. There have been very minor virus problems on Windows Mobile before, but the Antivirus applications were never any help until months after the viruses were discovered (since there are no Heuristics and the databases are generally updated monthly).
IMHO it's completely unnecessary on a phone and will only slow the device, so don't bother. Besides, while not the most elegant solution, the myriad of data/contact backup applications which could be used along side a hard reset could pretty much fix all the damage done by malware (provided the malware is not backed up as well!)

IF you plan on flashing roms at the rate of a normal member here you do not need antivirus. After a Hard reset the virus will be inoculated. Also getting a virus is very unlikely om wm.

dc41 said:
Is it even necessary?
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In short, No.
In long, Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

MalekoUK said:
In short, No.
In long, Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Thanks!

How do I prevent the fancy unit conversion tool etc from sending my phone number and my e-mail address (real name) to the manufacturer who then sells the data?
How do I prevent various apps from connecting to the internet and wasting my data volume?

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How do I prevent the fancy unit conversion tool etc from sending my phone number and my e-mail address (real name) to the manufacturer who then sells the data?
How do I prevent various apps from connecting to the internet and wasting my data volume?
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One cannot say that there are 0 viruses for WinMo, but they are so less that an anti-virus is not really required.
Just watch where from and what you are installing and you should be fine.

Thread direction seems to be right. The topic is about AVs and firewalls.
I do not believe that an AV is of major importance. But I can hardly live without a firewall.