Wtf!? Microsoft Silverlight will be soon available for Nokia Symbian S60 devices, it will be demonstrated by microsoft in march...
More info: http://symbian-freak.com/news/008/03/silverlight_experiences_to_s60_users.htm
I'm getting more and more frustrated with windows mobile... Now S60 already have Flash Lite 3 (which apparently Adobe won't even develope for windows mobile ) and soon they'll have Silverlight aswell...
Is Microsoft giving up on windows mobile?
No, they're not. Try reading this.
MS are just adding Symbian to it's list of supported OSs, nothing more.
Thanks for the info.
reading the title I was shocked!!!
I was about to get tight and throw my phone into the toilet, but then I read the rest.
I don't know why they're moving so slow when it comes to things like this on windows mobile. Microsoft should of already have a wm version of silverlight out.
and adobe frig them, they could use my socks to make soup when their really cheezy for all I care.
Silverlight should get a lot of market share and pose a competition to flash, because adobe is moving real slow,
I guess then they would speed up the development cycle.
is there any side by side comparison of silverlight video vs adobe video? which has the better quality with the least file size?
does anyone know or have a clue or even a guess on this matter?
Guys, AIR/Flash and Silverlight are very different propositions.
Silverlight is/will eventually plug into .net (according to Bill Gates, who I had the pleasure of seeing at the VS2008 launch in London last month), bringing a huge amount of power to the platform(s).
However, AIR/Flash is light, well established, and will potentially have a massive user base ready to go. Silverlight still has a long way to go there - a solution without much of a problem at this time. Hence, Silverlight being pimped to every man and his dog.
Filesizes etc are a premature consideration at this time. It's likely developers will use the platform that will get them the best exposure with the least pain.
And, as others have observed, in the end, both platforms are likely to co-exist.
But putting Silverlight on Symbian devices is certainly not an abandoning of Windows Mobile - anything that can further entrench users in the Windows environment can only be good for Microsoft, right? Even if that is Microsoft on a Nokia.
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actually, they're not premature. I wanted to see the video quality on the same video to know which one would give a better view and less strain on the eyes. I do believe file size plays a huge role, well for me at least, because if silverlight videos take up less space and gives me superior or equal quality, they silverlight it is.
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This week CTIA Wireless 2008 trade show takes place (April 1-3, Las Vegas), that is one of the most important events, when it comes to wireless industry in USA, and it is USA where Nokia smartphones have rather tiny market share (elsewhere being market leaders) so no wonder, that Nokia has picked, of all trade shows, exactly this one, to reveal their first Windows Mobile phone - Nokia 61wm:
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Interestingly, unlike Sony Ericsson, Nokia has picked touch-screen-less version of Windows Mobile - so called "Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard" (formerly known as "Microsoft smartphone" platform) and unlike Sony Ericsson Nokia intends to continue to use their Symbain S60 operting system for their flagship smartphones, and Windows Mobile will be used only for enterprise oriented customers in U.S. American market.
We must admit however, that Nokia 61wm (pictured above) is a rather underpowerd phone but it is a very important first step. Nokia has been licensing from Microsoft various kinds of technologies, including DRM, Windows Media formats, wireless ActiveSync (push e-mail) and Microsoft and Nokia even signed a deal about Silverlight for Nokia's Symbian S60 phones... so time was ripe to conclude this good cooperation with final step: Nokia licensing Windows Mobile.
More details about Nokia-Microsoft deal will be announced tomorrow at CTIA by Robert Bach from Microsoft, who will be giving keynote on 9:00am local time.
Stay tuned for our coverage!
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Nokia WM Smartphone - sounds funny
i feel like that about all breaking news stories i read on this date
It's an APRIL's FOOL joke....
I was a victim of it also...
Ahh, but I had the E71 in my hands and it blows away any Nokia QWERTY phone ever made and that is no joke....
http://discussions.mea.nokia.com/t5...-for-Nokia-N8-for-T-mobile-network/m-p/859637
I like your April fool jock, hehehhe
nice,
pakhot
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It's an APRIL's FOOL joke....
I was a victim of it also...
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Talk about irony ... the joke is now on Nokia.
I'm keeping an open mind and considering moving on ... to WM 7 or Android, which is why I joined this forum. But I sure wish Nokia could have figured things out after truly pioneering/pushing forward smartphones! They really lost their way.
nokia could have atleast gone the android way...why MS of all the people...is it because the present chief was connected to MS?? hmm...makes one wonder! <one more post for me>
It's not much but better than nothing
http://www.smartphonefrance.info/commentaires.asp?ID=4812
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http://www.smartphonefrance.info/news/wm651.jpg
I just wish we 6.1 owners can get this update but that's not going to happen.
well greats...for РРС ed. screens will be?
Dated Sep 26, why wait this long to put the screenshots up ? I wonder.....
We may not get "official" upgrades but the kind folks around here will probably find some use for it.
Looks pretty cool!
I do believe that the odds for a free upgrade to 6.5 is possible. Just like 6.0 was upgraded to 6.1, so should 6.1 be upgraded to 6.5.
The only thing that would stop it would be if the device is too slow to handle the new version. But you shouldn't hope for a free upgrade to WM 7
Not to go off-topic but it is dispointing that we might need another upgrade just to get the new mobile IE 6.0.
Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
Also, the 6.5 will probably be required for the new IE because of the HTML rendering engine also being used for Pocket Outlook, XML reading, etc.
I *believe* 6.5 should run fine on the current generation of HTC handsets... but WM7 is designed for the "next generation" of handsets - google nVidia's Tegra chipset to learn about this.
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Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
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Well, that's a pretty good reason, isn't it?
GTRoberts said:
Most people are of the opinion that these screen shots are fakes - due to the OSX icons being used.
Also, the 6.5 will probably be required for the new IE because of the HTML rendering engine also being used for Pocket Outlook, XML reading, etc.
I *believe* 6.5 should run fine on the current generation of HTC handsets... but WM7 is designed for the "next generation" of handsets - google nVidia's Tegra chipset to learn about this.
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Not only that, but the battery and signal strength indicators are transposed on the 2 shots, and it looks nothing like the preview screens of WM7 we've seen. Also, MS like screen layouts to have a logical progression, and that honeycomb layout is rather... chaotic.
It's a photoshop, and not the best on either.
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Fakes for me too
And it's even more simple than that : since when Microsoft put the phone function of these devices in the first place ? Putting Microsoft Media Player in the center of the screen is more correct lol
But there is a lot of other reasons and the first one is : what a new version of Windows Mobile and the first roms are not on XDA ? Impossible, XDA is the best !
I'm making a WAD2 theme based off the second screenshot... it should be done this weekend. (or at least a beta version).
hi,
I recently recently left WM (Touch HD) for an iphone (32GB 3GS)....however, I'm going to be switching back to WM as soon as the HD2 is available because as much as the iphone is an incredible interface...I find it's functionality to be lacking.
now, sadly...I have fallen in love with the apps store. I was amazed at the range and quality of the apps available...like the advert says, 'there's an app for that'. and it's true there is an app for just about everything...and I've found some great ones that I really want on my new WM device.
so, is there a site anywhere that will let me find WM comparable apps to the iphone? I can type in a name of an app available on the iphone and it will give me WM versions?
if not...should I build one? would anyone be interested such a site?
Microsoft is going to open their own "AppStore", called Marketplace for Windows Mobile, in two days.
The HD2 will already have it preinstalled.
However, it is not known currently how many applications will be there when it launches.
Apart from the built in Marketplace, you can find applications here at xda-developers and at sites like handango.com, mobihand.com, pocketgear.com, freewareppc.com and many others.
There's not as many applications for WM as there are for the iPhone, but since I recently switched back from the iPhone 3G to the Touch HD myself, I can tell you that I don't miss anything.
I think with WM6.5 and the Marketplace, the number of quality applications for WM will grow rapidly.
I am looking forward to the MS app store, as the iphone one is a dream to use. so I REALLY hope it's up to scratch.
I can think of a few apps that I'm going to miss hugely though.
1) facebook....considering how much MS paid for a piece of facebook, you would have thought that they'd built a decent app to give access to it
2) Sky tv. I have an iphone ap that allows me to scroll through program and then just select one to record...simples....however there is no such app available for WM sadly
Windows Mobile 6.5 actually has a decent Facebook app built in.
And the newest version of TouchFlo 3D, as you'll find it on the HD2, will take Facebook a lot further than what you can have on the iPhone, with direct integration into your contacts list (same for Twitter, Flickr and Youtube). This, like so many other things, will never be possible on an iPhone, because of Apple's restrictions.
Notice the Facebook logo among all the other WM apps:
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I don't know what Sky tv is, so I can't help you with that one, sorry.
thanks for the pointer...I will have to apologise for mentioning the iphone so many times in my recent posts...I am a WM fan at heart, but I just hope it can become the all conquering OS that it should be.
and apple would be all conquering, IF they let people customise their phones instead of locking them all down.
still...come on HD2.....I am ready and waiting with cash!!
Here is a little snippet from the article that you can find HERE
“Eldar Murtazin, the eternal Nokia antagonist, claims to have the inside scoop on Nokia’s current Windows Phone device plans while getting an early hands-on with a prototype. Besides demonstrating a natural extension of the Nokia naming strategy to accommodate the new Windows Phone devices, Eldar tells us that model W7 is built around an X7 hardware base while the new W8 handset is a variant of Nokia’s N8 cameraphone (conceptualized in the above pic). According to Eldar, all of Nokia’s WP prototypes are built upon Qualcomm chipsets per Microsoft’s requirement (and Nokia’s dismay). The W7 model is currently being used in-house for development purposes and will likely be the first to market, according to Eldar, with an 8 megapixel autofocus camera and flash.”
In the article you can see information about Dual core also, i mean if they dont put out dual core, they are gonna loose it.
I'm waiting for
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let me know when it comes out.
windows 7 on nokia phones is a good thought! But I think they should also have android phones...
I bet enthusiasts will install Android on the WP7 phones once they are out
The touchscreen and 2.X-hype has killed a lot of other features in cellphones. What happened to the real xenon based flash? Today, only Nokia use them in their cellphones and i H-A-T-E slowbian.
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The touchscreen and 2.X-hype has killed a lot of other features in cellphones. What happened to the real xenon based flash? Today, only Nokia use them in their cellphones and i H-A-T-E slowbian.
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Well kinda agree with you
just say, i love android more.
Nice phones though Look nicer than their Symbian devices
Nokia could well be the solution to embracing the average consumer to WP7!
Still have my 3310 to this very day and it works 100% as well (despite pretty hard abuse - dropped down a full flight of stairs, case broke but easily replaced back in the day with a massive variety of available aftermarket ones)
SOURCE : Kickedface
Microsoft has revealed that it has made some big changes to its desktop UI for Windows 8, which includes moving away from Aero Glass — the UI first introduced with Vista. According to the company, this means visual changes that include "flattening surfaces, removing reflections, and scaling back distracting gradients." Source : TheVerge
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Despite all of these changes with the interface, the company doesn't appear to be worried about the issue of "learnability." Instead, Microsoft believes that with a little help it won't take long for users to adapt to the new operating system. "We will help people get off on the right foot," the company explained in a blog post, "and we have confidence that people will quickly find the new paradigms to be second-nature."
While Microsoft admits that there have been some usability issues with certain gestures in the Consumer Preview, the company says that this is not an issue with people coming to grips with the concept, but instead a problem with the early state of the OS — internal builds are already "significantly improved," according to Microsoft, so we should see an easier-to-use Windows 8 when the Release Preview launches next month.
The post also packs a great dose of nostalgia, as the team looks back at interface issues dating all the way to Windows 1 in 1985. Be sure to check out the source link below for a trip down memory lane.
Windows Explorer is completely white?!!
These people are insane. Aero interface was wonderful, this is just ugly...
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Windows Explorer is completely white?!!
These people are insane. Aero interface was wonderful, this is just ugly...
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I like this one. We can change The Color i think..maybe.
surprised to see this in "Android general"
anyway win8 dissapoints me more with every new news, the ui looks washed out.
window 8 sucks
Think you posted in the wrong forum. Anyways I'm surprised they are getting rid of aero. Now that hardware has caught up even low end netbooks are able to run aero on Windows 7, this wasn't the case in early 2007 when Vista arrived. Why axe something that technology has finally caught up with?
I'm seeing less and less reasons to upgrade from Windows 7 when 8 comes out. Windows 7 will become the next XP.
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Think you posted in the wrong forum. Anyways I'm surprised they are getting rid of aero. Now that hardware has caught up even low end netbooks are able to run aero on Windows 7, this wasn't the case in early 2007 when Vista arrived. Why axe something that technology has finally caught up with?
I'm seeing less and less reasons to upgrade from Windows 7 when 8 comes out. Windows 7 will become the next XP.
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****. I posted it here. Ahaha Mistake.
They use the ribbon interface for the explorer. :banghead:
I'd love to meet whoever is responsible for this and personally punch him in the face.