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I got THIS!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320290530714
I suddenly went on a rush and decided I needed a new phone. I wanted either frontal keyboard and GPS or powerful and small. I love my TyTN, but it's big and I am not too fond of the slide out QWERTY.
Any toughts?

N1c0_ds said:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320290530714
I suddenly went on a rush and decided I needed a new phone. I wanted either frontal keyboard and GPS or powerful and small. I love my TyTN, but it's big and I am not too fond of the slide out QWERTY.
Any toughts?
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sound alright - I did notice that it take a mini sd card - I have another device that takes these and I have not yet over the past 2 years been able to find any mini SD cards larger then 2 gigs. I personally like to have as much memory as possible and 2 gigs would definately not be enough for me.

hotrod101 said:
sound alright - I did notice that it take a mini sd card - I have another device that takes these and I have not yet over the past 2 years been able to find any mini SD cards larger then 2 gigs. I personally like to have as much memory as possible and 2 gigs would definately not be enough for me.
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I'll use an adapter. I have plenty'o MicroSD cards.
I'll play with this one for a few weeks and then I'll decide between it and my TyTN. The financial loss should be minimal from what I've seen (especially since my TyTN is in great shape).
I really missed my Treo's design. The WM ones are fine but costly and they are too costly for what they offer (besides a nice design)

It still might not support micro sdhc which would be anything over 2 gigs *Right?* Even with an adapter. I think you *MIGHT* be able to find 4 gig standard micro sd's though. Nothing bigger then that for sure without getting SDHC. Is that the price you paid for it as well?

hotrod101 said:
It still might not support micro sdhc which would be anything over 2 gigs *Right?* Even with an adapter. I think you *MIGHT* be able to find 4 gig standard micro sd's though. Nothing bigger then that for sure without getting SDHC. Is that the price you paid for it as well?
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Well WM6 supports SDHC right? Otherwise the 4GB one will be for my camera and the 2GB one for my TyTN. I really doubt that it doesn't work but I'll google this while I have the time.
I paid my TyTN 180$ - new - a year ago. The warranty is over in a few weeks (it would already be if it hadn't broken 2 months ago) so I figured out I might as well switch it for something else without losing too much (if at all).
There y'go, I won.
EDIT: F*** bid snipers. SECONDS!
EDIT2: M************ SECONDS!!!

the device has to support it, too.
there are some WM6 devices that don't support SDHC.

Looks like the same seller has one more:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/UNLOCKED-HP-iPAQ...ryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

abubasim said:
Looks like the same seller has one more:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/UNLOCKED-HP-iPAQ...ryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I won one a bit later by another seller. I'll try it out and if I don't like it I'll put it back on eBay. At 168$ shipped I'm not going to lose much - if at all. The trick is to add cool UI software like SPB Mobile Shell and sweet home plugins and suddenly people go crazy.

SD to MICRO SD Converter Mod

Hi Everyone,
As it is taking so long to get real 32GB Micro SD's on the market I was wondering if anyone would be interested in buying a SD to MICRO SD converters.
This converters will not be just some wires solder together...but a converter that is nicely packaged.
Provide me with some feedback on the idea.

umm, how could that possibly work? you can't convert something so its smaller

Well maybe I did not state it correctly...
I mean a converter that will allow you to use a standard SD card into a micro sd slot...it will most likely be made of an external connector for the standard SD card then wire it down to a micro sd slot..
I work for an electronics manufacturing company and I may be able to convince my boss to do a test line of a couple...
But before I ask I wanted to see if there is any interest???
I have a Nexus one and really do not want to keep waiting for the 32GB Micro SD...then I do not want to pay $200.00 for it.
So i am thinking if people are interested a converter that can hold a standard SD that is no more that 4MM thick then you can shop around for a 32GB standard SD card for about $75.00 and have 32GB of storage for your nexus or other device...
Again just checking for input...

I'd would be interested, but I don't think there is going to be enough room to fit it and still put the back on!

tomfreay said:
I'd would be interested, but I don't think there is going to be enough room to fit it and still put the back on!
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Hi tomfreay I was was thinking about that...it may have to be something that mounts on the outside of the back cover...if it can be made to be flush against the back cover...I envision a small "bump" on the back...
I use a clear silicone case for my phone so I do not think it will look to bad....
Or I can buy a Seidio extended battery and case..this should allow me to hide the converter inside...but I think it may look worse than just having a little standard SD size bump on the back of the phone...
I will ask my boss to explore one then take pictures of the finished product and post...

Someone has done this already with one of the convertors already available

Kman Gymrat said:
Someone has done this already with one of the converters already available
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OK...so where can I buy one? And how much?

32GB Micro SD cards are available and have been for a month or two at least - check out http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDgQrQQwAg
Can't see any kind of converter fitting well with the phone and still looking good. Also it would probably reduce transfer speeds to/from the card.
At this stage I can't say I'd recommend getting a 32GB Micro SD card for that matter. Better to stick with one that has a smaller capacity/higher data transfer speed if you don't want to slow down gallery/music apps etc - something between 4GB and 16GB.

See this post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6289541&postcount=101
joeearl13 said:
32GB Micro SD cards are available and have been for a month or two at least - check out http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDgQrQQwAg
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All 32 gig cards in the link you provided are out of stock.

Ya, if you don't know what you're talking about...
joeearl13 said:
32GB Micro SD cards are available and have been for a month or two at least - check out http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDgQrQQwAg
Can't see any kind of converter fitting well with the phone and still looking good. Also it would probably reduce transfer speeds to/from the card.
At this stage I can't say I'd recommend getting a 32GB Micro SD card for that matter. Better to stick with one that has a smaller capacity/higher data transfer speed if you don't want to slow down gallery/music apps etc - something between 4GB and 16GB.
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DUDE. Seriously. How many times do people have to be told that a PHONE will not be able to saturate a Class 2 (which has a MINIMUM of 2MB/s NOT MAXIMUM) MicroSD card. Classes, DO NOT MATTER when the phone can only access the card as fast as the chipset can. I had a Class 6 with Apps2SD and a Class 2 16GB with Apps2SD and there was NO DIFFERENCE even with the biggest movie file I could play.
Why the crap would you think that less than 1 inch of copper would slow down the transfer rate to anything you can see?? GIVE. ME. A. BREAK. I have 2 METERS of USB cord AND a 2 inch USB cord hooked up to a portable harddrive, and they have IDENTICAL speeds with the same hardware, why would you be able to tell the difference on a phone where that is not even close to being a bottleneck.
Listen, this is important: SD Card Class will NEVER be a bottleneck for any media on our Nexus Ones.
Ya, true; my converter looks terrible, but it fits under a very nice looking Casemate Vroom Case perfectly I would totally recommend one if you're going to get a MicroSD to SD.

Hi Everyone,
I have posted some pictures of my SD to MicroSD Converter and how it looks once it is installed.

Not bad, would be tempted by it if I needed a lot of storage.

well, if we gonna make our n1 bigger.. is that possible to make raid of two 32GB SDHC cards?

reddog said:
Hi Everyone,
I have posted some pictures of my SD to MicroSD Converter and how it looks once it is installed.
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Nice Job. DocRambone was going to try this with the 3200mAH battery and cover but I dont know if he was successful.
The custom back-cover that comes with it should have room for this.
ps: Can you post the pics in the OP so its easy to find, thanks.

britoso said:
Nice Job. DocRambone was going to try this with the 3200mAH battery and cover but I dont know if he was successful.
The custom back-cover that comes with it should have room for this.
ps: Can you post the pics in the OP so its easy to find, thanks.
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Hi Britoso..I was think about putting out the money for the 3200mAH battery...but then I found the case for it was too big...
The mod that I did is something that I think a lot of people can live with..its not ugly..the crystal case fits...and the grip of the phone has changed a little..I find it feels a little better.
Forgive my ignorance I have been on this site for several years now and still do not know everything...what do you mean by "OP"..set me straight and I will place the pictures there..
To All...
Again with this mod the cover slides off like it should...I put a small slit in the cover for the flex cable...and placed protective tape on both sides of the flex cable to prevent damage.
So at the most I just have to buy a new back cover and return the phone to OEM condition.
Oh I did shaved the battery a little by the MicroSD slot area...
If anyone is really interested in this converter let me know...like I said...$200.00+ for a 32GB Mirco SD card...I have seen them selling for $395.00..no way I say.
This mod ran me $82.00 for the 32GB standard class 10 card and $35.00 in parts.. Grand total of $117.00 for massive storage...I say the little bump on the back is worth it..phone can quickly be restored to OEM..
Maybe in 1.5 years from now when 32GB MicroSD cards come down to earth....I will get one..then I will just use my 32GB Class 10 Standard SD in a HD camcorder...

If it fits inside the battery cover it will be safer from movement, dust, drops etc.
OP= Original Post, the first post
You can also Add "Mod" to the title, need to go into the advanced edit mode for that.

britoso said:
If it fits inside the battery cover it will be safer from movement, dust, drops etc.
OP= Original Post, the first post
You can also Add "Mod" to the title, need to go into the advanced edit mode for that.
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OK..its done..thanks for the lesson..

andjohn said:
DUDE. Seriously. How many times do people have to be told that a PHONE will not be able to saturate a Class 2 (which has a MINIMUM of 2MB/s NOT MAXIMUM) MicroSD card. Classes, DO NOT MATTER when the phone can only access the card as fast as the chipset can. I had a Class 6 with Apps2SD and a Class 2 16GB with Apps2SD and there was NO DIFFERENCE even with the biggest movie file I could play.
Why the crap would you think that less than 1 inch of copper would slow down the transfer rate to anything you can see?? GIVE. ME. A. BREAK. I have 2 METERS of USB cord AND a 2 inch USB cord hooked up to a portable harddrive, and they have IDENTICAL speeds with the same hardware, why would you be able to tell the difference on a phone where that is not even close to being a bottleneck.
Listen, this is important: SD Card Class will NEVER be a bottleneck for any media on our Nexus Ones.
Ya, true; my converter looks terrible, but it fits under a very nice looking Casemate Vroom Case perfectly I would totally recommend one if you're going to get a MicroSD to SD.
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If this rant is true, you make me feel a lot better for buying a class 2 16gig card.

andjohn said:
DUDE. Seriously. How many times do people have to be told that a PHONE will not be able to saturate a Class 2 (which has a MINIMUM of 2MB/s NOT MAXIMUM) MicroSD card. Classes, DO NOT MATTER when the phone can only access the card as fast as the chipset can. I had a Class 6 with Apps2SD and a Class 2 16GB with Apps2SD and there was NO DIFFERENCE even with the biggest movie file I could play...
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BTW, "class" on a (micro)sd card is for measuring _write_ speed only. Hence playing a video will test precisely nothing relating to it's class rating.
And yes, the N1 can saturate the write speed on a Class 2 card _very_ easily.

Anyone still looking for an adapter. I found this:
http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html
They sell this directly for around $24 + shipping.

Omnia 7 VS Focus VS HD7S

So Im on ATT, had the Focus and it was a very nice device! Loved the screen, lightness of it, build was solid (imo) and it was overall just nice! Only thing that I hated was that it only had 8gb of internal! wtf? Not to mention that it would pretty much destroy your SD Card....
Anyway Ive been looking at the Omnia7, looks solid! Front is nice but back is ugly imo, a plus though is that it has 16gb internal instead of only 8gb.
Then we have the HD7S (any Idea when this is coming!?) and its pretty much a HD7 but with SuperLCD (great screen imo).
So yea, which would you pick and why?

The Omnia 7 only comes in 3G europe bands

solidkevin said:
So Im on ATT, had the Focus and it was a very nice device! Loved the screen, lightness of it, build was solid (imo) and it was overall just nice! Only thing that I hated was that it only had 8gb of internal! wtf? Not to mention that it would pretty much destroy your SD Card....
Anyway Ive been looking at the Omnia7, looks solid! Front is nice but back is ugly imo, a plus though is that it has 16gb internal instead of only 8gb.
Then we have the HD7S (any Idea when this is coming!?) and its pretty much a HD7 but with SuperLCD (great screen imo).
So yea, which would you pick and why?
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I own[ed] in this order:
LG Optimus 7
Samsung Omnia 7
Samsung Focus
Now here are some facts:
- WM7/Focus doesn't destroy your card. It integrates it to the phone.You can always format it and "get it back" on any Symbian phone, with no issues.
- 8GB is the default in Omnia 7 across Europe (only Germany got 16GB)
- You can expand the Focus memory upto 40 GB (8+32)
- Omnia7 has the fastest memory from all WP7 phones (NAND) however it is soldered to the phone. So no update of any kind
- Screenwise, Omnia 7 and Focus are identical
- Focus has more cell bands
- No roms (currently) for Focus
Now about my own experience Omnia7 vs Focus:
- Omnia 7 is heavier (about 20g, and yes, you can feel the difference)
- I like the round edges design better on Focus, I found Omnia7 too "rough", too straight edges.
- Omnia 7 has a "metallic" feel, Focus has a more "plastic" feel
- Battery lasts longer on Focus
Overall, I switched because I wanted the space. 24 GB vs 8 GB makes a lot of difference. I also can upgrade the memory. Then, the screen surface is Gorilla glass coated, a thing Omnia7 lacks. Screen is same, battery is better on Focus. Focus is lighter.
Except for the looks and rom (and even that's subjective) I favor Focus over Omnia. One last thing, please note that "metallic" feel also means it feels colder in the hand.
Then again, I suppose people want what they don't have

EnderPsp said:
I own[ed] in this order:
LG Optimus 7
Samsung Omnia 7
Samsung Focus
Now here are some facts:
- WM7/Focus doesn't destroy your card. It integrates it to the phone.You can always format it and "get it back" on any Symbian phone, with no issues.
Yea but I dont have a symbian phone and dont know anyone who has! lol
- 8GB is the default in Omnia 7 across Europe (only Germany got 16GB)
- You can expand the Focus memory upto 40 GB (8+32)
- Omnia7 has the fastest memory from all WP7 phones (NAND) however it is soldered to the phone. So no update of any kind
WOW so no updates for Omnia7? Seriously? So it dint get NoDo and wont get Mango?
- Screenwise, Omnia 7 and Focus are identical
- Focus has more cell bands
- No roms (currently) for Focus
I dont do that stuff at all so im good!
Now about my own experience Omnia7 vs Focus:
- Omnia 7 is heavier (about 20g, and yes, you can feel the difference)
Nice, the lighter the better for me personally.
- I like the round edges design better on Focus, I found Omnia7 too "rough", too straight edges.
- Omnia 7 has a "metallic" feel, Focus has a more "plastic" feel
- Battery lasts longer on Focus
How Long?
Overall, I switched because I wanted the space. 24 GB vs 8 GB makes a lot of difference. I also can upgrade. Then, the phone is lighter and the screen surface is Gorilla glass coated, a thing Omnia7 lacks. Screen is same, battery is better on Focus. Focus is lighter.
Except for the looks and rom (and even that's subjective) I favor Focus over Omnia.
Then again, I suppose people want what they don't have
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Thanks. Do you think The Focus will get beyond Mango?

Is there ANY other way to fix the SD Card? I would be tempted to get a 32gb for the focus but I just dont have a symbian phone...

Quick Question, lets say I get a Focus and use a SD Card, then upgrade to a newer WP, that same card should be recognized by the new device right? I would just have to reformat it using the phone, it just wont be recognizable on my PC?

Anyone know

solidkevin said:
Anyone know
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Yes it would work in the new phone after reformat.

solidkevin said:
Quick Question, lets say I get a Focus and use a SD Card, then upgrade to a newer WP, that same card should be recognized by the new device right? I would just have to reformat it using the phone, it just wont be recognizable on my PC?
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It will be recognised in the new device after formatting it in a symbian phone.
Also, please note that there is a thread here on compatible cards for Focus, mainly Class 2 and 4 have been confirmed to work so far without issues.
solidkevin said:
Thanks. Do you think The Focus will get beyond Mango?
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I would say yes, considering that the hardware in the phone is quite good and another generation hasn't been seen yet.
Also keep in mind that every 2 years a phone is obsolete and that Mango is known as WP 7.5 so there might be more surprises coming after it.

EnderPsp said:
It will be recognised in the new device after formatting it in a symbian phone.
Wtf so I need a Symbian phone regardless to do it? How ridiculous...
Also, please note that there is a thread here on compatible cards for Focus, mainly Class 2 and 4 have been confirmed to work so far without issues.
I would say yes, considering that the hardware in the phone is quite good and another generation hasn't been seen yet.
Also keep in mind that every 2 years a phone is obsolete and that Mango is known as WP 7.5 so there might be more surprises coming after it.
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Wow....you would think Ms would fix this SD problem...

solidkevin said:
Wow....you would think Ms would fix this SD problem...
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The Focus allows for the expansion of memory using an added MicroSD Card. It is incorporated with the phones onboard memory in a sort of JBOD arrangement. This is done, presumably, for the sake of stability within the OS. There is nothing to "fix." This is the way it is intended to work. It's not a removable disk drive sort of thing.
EDIT: you don't need a symbian phone to do this. You simply put in the card, reset the phone, and you're good to go. If you decide to remove the card later, you simply remove it, and reset the phone, and you're good to go. If you want to reuse the card after that, you will need to reformat it, but because of the securities measures, measures that are designed as part of the SD format and standards, you will need a device that actually complies with those SD measures. right now, the easiest method is a symbian phone that retained and conforms to the security measures that are a part of the SD format and standards.

munkeyphyst said:
The Focus allows for the expansion of memory using an added MicroSD Card. It is incorporated with the phones onboard memory in a sort of JBOD arrangement. This is done, presumably, for the sake of stability within the OS. There is nothing to "fix." This is the way it is intended to work. It's not a removable disk drive sort of thing.
EDIT: you don't need a symbian phone to do this. You simply put in the card, reset the phone, and you're good to go. If you decide to remove the card later, you simply remove it, and reset the phone, and you're good to go. If you want to reuse the card after that, you will need to reformat it, but because of the securities measures, measures that are designed as part of the SD format and standards, you will need a device that actually complies with those SD measures. right now, the easiest method is a symbian phone that retained and conforms to the security measures that are a part of the SD format and standards.
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Ok but my main question was that if lets say I use the card on the focus then lets say a Focus2 comes out, can I take it out, put it into the Focus2 then reformat it on there and it will work? Thats my main concern, and wow! Symbian can reformat it but there isnt a program or anything on PC that can do it!? Crazy...

[Completed] Purchasing Advice

As a former BES Admin, I was in no rush to get to the Android side. Eventually, I had to make the switch some years back to an Atrix 4G. Physically the phone felt like the cheaply constructed piece of garbage that it is and I had to replace it at least once along the way via Asurion.
Aside from the advertised FM Radio that the unit didn't actually contain, it was a pleasure to own. I spent time with a dozen different ROMs. There was even an Ubuntu for it!
I replaced that with an LG phone. It was physically sturdy, but much harder to mod and sans the replaceable battery. I don't consider battery replacement a feature, as much as I consider built-in batteries to be a crime against the environment and children. It was recently stolen.
I replaced it with a Samsung Note SGH-i717. It reeks of cheap plastic like Samsung's do. Rooting was easy, and a nice buffet of ROMs to choose from, just like when I rooted my friend's Galaxy... It's my first phone that can accommodate a 64Gb microSD!
With 10Gb free on internal storage and a freshly-formatted 64 Gb microSD I was surprised to see this thing whining and demanding uncompensated attention around an issue of space.
Figuring out how to repartition took forever. Immediately after I did (using sdparted) the phone will not turn on or charge. A brick headed back to where I bought it from.
I was surprised that no matter how awesome the ROM, most of the internal storage was set aside to do nothing. Luckily I snagged a VSA v.45 for $50 along with the new Samsung and microSD. My job mandates I carry a phone, and I don't want to stress. This one actually has an FM radio too!
It is doing the same thing where it seems like someone with a severe disability established the (not-at-all-easy-to-modify) partition scheme. I'm aware of options which generously "allow" me to move app data to the microSD card. But I'm not suffering from a brain injury, and so I don't want any app to ever stop working just because I need to swap in some more removable storage. At least I don't want to think about it until I filled the internal memory legitimately - an impossibility which will likely never occur.
I like to use my microSD for data, and phone space for OS and apps. I could author a book on why, likely I'm preaching to the choir.
As a long-time IT guy and American, I will not carry around a device I cannot root. I wish I could add 3 days to every week so I could donate them to hacking Android's stupidity (not).
Under $400 unlocked, no contract, is there a phone that is not tied to a horrifically unusable partitioning scheme? If it wasn't made out of plastic and falling apart by week 2, that'd be a nice bonus. I realize in asking the the hardware and software both not be trash I'm being "picky."
I love the Cisco 7960 on my home desk. If it wasn't for my being on-call for work, I'd just as soon leave it at that.
I need something modern and peppy as I work in IT.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks for this forum and all the hard work you do! I would have never made it this far without you!

StupidPhonesNowMoreDumb said:
As a former BES Admin, I was in no rush to get to the Android side. Eventually, I had to make the switch some years back to an Atrix 4G. Physically the phone felt like the cheaply constructed piece of garbage that it is and I had to replace it at least once along the way via Asurion.
Aside from the advertised FM Radio that the unit didn't actually contain, it was a pleasure to own. I spent time with a dozen different ROMs. There was even an Ubuntu for it!
I replaced that with an LG phone. It was physically sturdy, but much harder to mod and sans the replaceable battery. I don't consider battery replacement a feature, as much as I consider built-in batteries to be a crime against the environment and children. It was recently stolen.
I replaced it with a Samsung Note SGH-i717. It reeks of cheap plastic like Samsung's do. Rooting was easy, and a nice buffet of ROMs to choose from, just like when I rooted my friend's Galaxy... It's my first phone that can accommodate a 64Gb microSD!
With 10Gb free on internal storage and a freshly-formatted 64 Gb microSD I was surprised to see this thing whining and demanding uncompensated attention around an issue of space.
Figuring out how to repartition took forever. Immediately after I did (using sdparted) the phone will not turn on or charge. A brick headed back to where I bought it from.
I was surprised that no matter how awesome the ROM, most of the internal storage was set aside to do nothing. Luckily I snagged a VSA v.45 for $50 along with the new Samsung and microSD. My job mandates I carry a phone, and I don't want to stress. This one actually has an FM radio too!
It is doing the same thing where it seems like someone with a severe disability established the (not-at-all-easy-to-modify) partition scheme. I'm aware of options which generously "allow" me to move app data to the microSD card. But I'm not suffering from a brain injury, and so I don't want any app to ever stop working just because I need to swap in some more removable storage. At least I don't want to think about it until I filled the internal memory legitimately - an impossibility which will likely never occur.
I like to use my microSD for data, and phone space for OS and apps. I could author a book on why, likely I'm preaching to the choir.
As a long-time IT guy and American, I will not carry around a device I cannot root. I wish I could add 3 days to every week so I could donate them to hacking Android's stupidity (not).
Under $400 unlocked, no contract, is there a phone that is not tied to a horrifically unusable partitioning scheme? If it wasn't made out of plastic and falling apart by week 2, that'd be a nice bonus. I realize in asking the the hardware and software both not be trash I'm being "picky."
I love the Cisco 7960 on my home desk. If it wasn't for my being on-call for work, I'd just as soon leave it at that.
I need something modern and peppy as I work in IT.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks for this forum and all the hard work you do! I would have never made it this far without you!
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Question 2 Days in dealing with file transfer Hell

This is my first Android phone without a micro SD card, and it sucks trying to transfer large files. I'm coming from a Note 10+ with 256GB internal storage and a 512GB micro SD card. So, with a 512GB internal storage only, I'm already taking a step backwards. I've always kept most large files on my SD card and it was simple to place the SD card in the new phone. It's always made backups simple, ever since Android did away with USB Mass Storage. I know I'm old school, but I've also chosen the Note series because it's always been the Swiss Army Knife of cell phones. But, they constantly remove features to the point where there's very little differentiation from other phones. I wish I would've bought a Note 20 Ultra before Samsung stopped making them. But, who knew they would eliminate the micro SD completely. They did it with the Note 5 and apparently realized it was a mistake because they brought it back for the next 5 generations. I almost switched to the Xperia Pro or I III. Except Sony put 95% of their phone features into the camera. I run multiple businesses and I've always relied on the Note with the option of pulling the SD card for quick file transfer. We got minor upgrades in processor and battery, but I don't know if I can except the trade off for what's been omitted. This $1,300 phone might be going in the trash if I can't find some important trade-offs. So far, it seems like a downgrade to my 2019 premium phone.

In the US you can still buy new factory sealed N10+'s and N20U's.
I bought a new N10+ 4 months ago to serve as a backup for my first one. I don't think the N20U is as reliable and it's variable refresh rate display like all of the variable refresh rate displays doesn't have as good a color rendering index as the N10+. The cam hump and that lame lefty spen... idiots.
No SD card slot, no sale. Personally I like to have two 1tb SD card slots.
Screw Sammy for turning all Apple
Call Samsung up and share the wuv

I have had to do 2 factory resets to try and solve some issues. Smart Switch isn't cutting it. Samsung wants me to put in the code off of my other Galaxy device?! I have no other Galaxy device now.
This whole deal starting with the presale has been a disaster. The phone has not been what the specs were either.

blackhawk said:
In the US you can still buy new factory sealed N10+'s and N20U's.
I bought a new N10+ 4 months ago to serve as a backup for my first one. I don't think the N20U is as reliable and it's variable refresh rate display like all of the variable refresh rate displays doesn't have as good a color rendering index as the N10+. The cam hump and that lame lefty spen... idiots.
No SD card slot, no sale. Personally I like to have two 1tb SD card slots.
Screw Sammy for turning all Apple
Call Samsung up and share the wuv
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The left handed S-pen seems retarded. I understand (but still not happy with) the constant rearrangement of the power/volume buttons. I've gotten used to everything being on the left side. But, my Tab S6 has right side buttons. So, if you're gonna switch sides, at least put the power button above or below the volume rocker to match other devices. My patience is running thin. I may be on the search for a new N20U. I still have my 10+, but the back screen's broken and the wifi antenna struggles to reconnect to existing wifi at times. Again, the brand alternatives are slim. I appreciate your point of view on tech.

Steigerelli said:
This is my first Android phone without a micro SD card, and it sucks trying to transfer large files. I'm coming from a Note 10+ with 256GB internal storage and a 512GB micro SD card. So, with a 512GB internal storage only, I'm already taking a step backwards. I've always kept most large files on my SD card and it was simple to place the SD card in the new phone. It's always made backups simple, ever since Android did away with USB Mass Storage. I know I'm old school, but I've also chosen the Note series because it's always been the Swiss Army Knife of cell phones. But, they constantly remove features to the point where there's very little differentiation from other phones. I wish I would've bought a Note 20 Ultra before Samsung stopped making them. But, who knew they would eliminate the micro SD completely. They did it with the Note 5 and apparently realized it was a mistake because they brought it back for the next 5 generations. I almost switched to the Xperia Pro or I III. Except Sony put 95% of their phone features into the camera. I run multiple businesses and I've always relied on the Note with the option of pulling the SD card for quick file transfer. We got minor upgrades in processor and battery, but I don't know if I can except the trade off for what's been omitted. This $1,300 phone might be going in the trash if I can't find some important trade-offs. So far, it seems like a downgrade to my 2019 premium phone.
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You're not wrong here, pal. I am trading in a N20U for this new S22U that I just received yesterday and the one thing I do dread, is having to backup constantly. I am certainly NOT going to succumb to cloud storage and it sucks ass through a straw to know that every time I add new memes to my collection that stays on my phone, I have to sift through to find those that aren't already backed up. In addition, I can no longer factory reset without affecting the external SD card. If a factory reset is done, EVERYTHING goes bye bye. While this new phone is extremely fast and in a class of its own, it sucks that Samsung went the Apple way — pretty lame.

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The left handed S-pen seems retarded. I understand (but still not happy with) the constant rearrangement of the power/volume buttons. I've gotten used to everything being on the left side. But, my Tab S6 has right side buttons. So, if you're gonna switch sides, at least put the power button above or below the volume rocker to match other devices. My patience is running thin. I may be on the search for a new N20U. I still have my 10+, but the back screen's broken and the wifi antenna struggles to reconnect to existing wifi at times. Again, the brand alternatives are slim. I appreciate your point of view on tech.
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You still have patience with Samsung?
The rear cover for the N10+ is cheap. Replace the battery and anything else needed.
Get a rear cover seal and the seal or assembly for the cam cover if not included with the replacement.
I use the Zizo Bolt case as it gives good drop protection. Easy to hold and keep clean.

I think you should've done your research first since it was already advertised in the first place that it won't have an SD card slot. and before you pre-order, there are device specifications to look at. blaming won't Samsung will not help you, there's a lot of information leaking out before it was introduced to the public.

I came from being an avid user of microSD-cards as well, but as sadly most current phones don't support them any more I moved on....
What I use for file transfer is the app "Total Commander" together with the "Wifi Transfer" Plugin, then connect both phones via Wifi direct (is a bit faster than going over the Wifi router in my house which is used by the whole family) and then copy files over.... Oh, and don't forget to remove battery optimization for both TC and thw Wifi plugin.....

Maximo Beniares Jr. said:
I think you should've done your research first since it was already advertised in the first place that it won't have an SD card slot. and before you pre-order, there are device specifications to look at. blaming won't Samsung will not help you, there's a lot of information leaking out before it was introduced to the public.
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I did my research. There are a lot of us that have been discussing our frustration for months over the omission of the micro SD card slot. I still like a new premium phone every couple of years.

The truth is, unfortunately, these things are spy devices. We shouldn't be keeping personal files and data on these devices. Take your pics and videos and back them up off your device. I don't do the pathetic social media thing, too, so that helps and eliminates any need for personal pictures and videos having to stay on my device. I'm just giving a bit of perspective.

Coming from a note 10 plus with 256 internal and 512 sd card. Used smart switch through a cable and took around 2 hours to transfer 450 Gb of files. I do have the 1 tb model. Don't know if that makes a difference

Get a USB C style micro-sd adapter and plug it into the phone and an SD into that? At one point I am sure samsung were even shipping adapters with their first generation of USB C devices.
Something like this (this is just a quick google, I have not checked nor am I endorsing this particular product, or seller) - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/37378004...7779&msclkid=5a468d1beed019e9d88def02ff420f60
Edit: even trusted companies like kingston sell options, and it was compatible with the S21 Ultra, so should be fine on the S22 Ultra - https://www.mymemory.co.uk/kingston-mobilelite-duo-3c-microsd-card-reader.html

I dont know how this lack of mountable storage is such a big issue for people? Buy a phone with sufficient internal storage and call it a day. And as already mentioned, keeping your entire personal history on your phone is dumb.
I use my laptop to store my files and back them up to an external drive. Super easy to transfer what I need to my new phone.
I do a fresh install of my apps over a period of days priortizing by usage.
It is best to do a clean install. Using a file transfer app to move data and apps from one phone to another can lead to problems. I guess everyone wants an instantaneous process because they want quick and easy.

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I dont know how this lack of mountable storage is such a big issue for people? Buy a phone with sufficient internal storage and call it a day. And as already mentioned, keeping your entire personal history on your phone is dumb.
I use my laptop to store my files and back them up to an external drive. Super easy to transfer what I need to my new phone.
I do a fresh install of my apps over a period of days priortizing by usage.
It is best to do a clean install. Using a file transfer app to move data and apps from one phone to another can lead to problems. I guess everyone wants an instantaneous process because they want quick and easy.
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Yep, why I got a 1TB model. Also bought a Super Speed USB 3 cable and the transfers are lightning quick. The one that came with the phone is USB 2.0 speed.

Would you provide a link to the one you purchased?

I was in the exact same boat. I spent 2 days transferring files and it sucks.

It was two hours for me also. Bundled cable is 2.0 only? What's with all the high wattage cables being USB 2.0 only. Though honestly never really had high regards to Samsungs included cables, they fall apart within a couple month of just simple plug/replug (I don't manhandle devices or cables).
Anyone else go from 65% initial charge to ~ 20% in that span as well?

Steigerelli said:
This is my first Android phone without a micro SD card, and it sucks trying to transfer large files. I'm coming from a Note 10+ with 256GB internal storage and a 512GB micro SD card. So, with a 512GB internal storage only, I'm already taking a step backwards. I've always kept most large files on my SD card and it was simple to place the SD card in the new phone. It's always made backups simple, ever since Android did away with USB Mass Storage. I know I'm old school, but I've also chosen the Note series because it's always been the Swiss Army Knife of cell phones. But, they constantly remove features to the point where there's very little differentiation from other phones. I wish I would've bought a Note 20 Ultra before Samsung stopped making them. But, who knew they would eliminate the micro SD completely. They did it with the Note 5 and apparently realized it was a mistake because they brought it back for the next 5 generations. I almost switched to the Xperia Pro or I III. Except Sony put 95% of their phone features into the camera. I run multiple businesses and I've always relied on the Note with the option of pulling the SD card for quick file transfer. We got minor upgrades in processor and battery, but I don't know if I can except the trade off for what's been omitted. This $1,300 phone might be going in the trash if I can't find some important trade-offs. So far, it seems like a downgrade to my 2019 premium phone.
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Don't trash it donate it to a charity for a good cause and stick with your Note 10+. YOU KNEW there was not gonna be an SD Card option but you bought it anyway. No SD Card and No Audio Jack is the future of phones. Without those it offers more space for the battery and better cooling solutions. If you have a 512 gb SD card why didn't you go with 512gb internal storage? It was only $100 more than 256gb which would have doubled your storage.

Paul_Deemer said:
Don't trash it donate it to a charity for a good cause and stick with your Note 10+. YOU KNEW there was not gonna be an SD Card option but you bought it anyway. No SD Card and No Audio Jack is the future of phones. Without those it offers more space for the battery and better cooling solutions. If you have a 512 gb SD card why didn't you go with 512gb internal storage? It was only $100 more than 256gb which would have doubled your storage.
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No SD card slot impacts chipset cooling options little. Most heat is dissipated through the display side and almost none through the frame rail.
Samsung better get their rabid gerbil dancing act together especially after their latest data breach atrocity.
Tired of Samsung telling the customer what they want and need. Screw that. Put out or get out Sammy.
My one N10+ is 512gb. It takes way too long to load that big a drive when you could simple slam in a loaded sd card and be good to go. That's what I did on my 2nd N10+, hit the ground running and setting it up.

blackhawk said:
No SD card slot impacts chipset cooling options little. Most heat is dissipated through the display side and almost none through the frame rail.
Samsung better get their rabid gerbil dancing act together especially after their latest data breach atrocity.
Tired of Samsung telling the customer what they want and need. Screw that. Put out or get out Sammy.
My one N10+ is 512gb. It takes way too long to load that big a drive when you could simple slam in a loaded sd card and be good to go. That's what I did on my 2nd N10+, hit the ground running and setting it up.
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They gonna do what they think is in the best interests of the majority of users and not the niche group (a few percentage) that actually fill up 512gb of storage. It's saves them money not having the SD card and increases their profits because they force you to buy a phone with more than the standard storage option. You got two choices. Accept it or buy a different brand.