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WM 6 on MDA

Hello, I really would like to know about this, I have a T-Mobile MDA (USA) running WM 5 version 2.26.10.2 WWE. I downloaded this from the T-Mobile website and updated my phone. I would like WM 6 on my MDA but i have no clue on how to do it. So if someone could please help me to do that i would really appreciate it. Also i would like to know some of the advantages and disadvantages (if any) of upgrading to WM 6. I'm a complete noob to any of this so any help is appreciated.

killerkhatiby009 said:
Hello, I really would like to know about this, I have a T-Mobile MDA (USA) running WM 5 version 2.26.10.2 WWE. I downloaded this from the T-Mobile website and updated my phone. I would like WM 6 on my MDA but i have no clue on how to do it. So if someone could please help me to do that i would really appreciate it. Also i would like to know some of the advantages and disadvantages (if any) of upgrading to WM 6. I'm a complete noob to any of this so any help is appreciated.
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Start reading the forums. Everything you need is found here. Best bet is to take time and read the stickies at the top of this forum and the Wizard Upgrading forum. Those will tell you the step by step instructions on doing all of this. But understand, this isn't just a simple application install, but an OS Install (and not one supported by your provider). So for most roms you will have to figure out how to setup GPRS and MMS to get them to work. So don't rush into this, but spend some time reading and learning (or you may wind up with a dead phone).
A really good post with tons of pointers to stuff is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206964&postcount=894
Hats off to Carlosdude1991 for putting that together.

Thanks for the quick response, ive been reading up a little and so far it seems like the WM 6 Roms run faster than the originals, i have also learned that i have a G3 Device. Anyway im going to unlock my device and install WM 6 but i dont really know which ROM to get. Which is the best WM 6 ROM?

killerkhatiby009 said:
Thanks for the quick response, ive been reading up a little and so far it seems like the WM 6 Roms run faster than the originals, i have also learned that i have a G3 Device. Anyway im going to unlock my device and install WM 6 but i dont really know which ROM to get. Which is the best WM 6 ROM?
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Ok, then start here and follow everything without skipping steps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
As for WM6, you'll have to decide what you really want. If you want a fully loaded rom, then try Faria's "the real thing". For a "clean" rom try NotTooSmart or Xplore 1.1. Also Zoki's NBD is getting good reviews (I haven't tried it).
The beta of Faria's Vanilla is going VERY well and will be a great rom when its released (watch for it soon).
Good luck and have fun.

I have another question though before i do that, after i get WM6 will everything work again like it used to, like phone, text and sms, camera, programs etc.?

yes they will, you will have to enter in the correct settings for T-mobile mms

I think this is my last question (actually last 2), On the guide it says to downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM, what does it mean by that, does it mean that I should install buttons 1.05 ROM and do the whole process and then install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM which is the one I'm running right now? and wouldnt that re-lock my phone? and my second question is about how long would it take to go from an official T-mobile 2.26.10.2 ROM, Locked phone. to a WM6 unlocked everything working phone?
BTW thanks for all the quick responses and help.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Go to that thread and follow those directions. You have to use the lokiwiz to cid unlock your rom before you can add custom roms. Cid unlocking voids your warranty btw. That form is straight forward and works like a charm just do exactly what it says word for word.

I read it through a couple of times now, but i just don't get the part at the end where it says install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM. I have that right now and wouldnt that just re-lock the phone? Also how do i Downgrade to the Button 1.05 ROM?

Alright, I understand where your coming from, I was in your shoes. lokiwiz will not work with 2.26. Therefore you have to downgrade your rom to 1.05( I used 1.8 because I couldnt find 1.5 and it still worked) Once you downgrade your rom then you can use lokiwiz to Cid unlock your phone. adding 2.26 after your cid unlock your phone will not lock it again given that you did everything correctly. 2.26 is a solid and steady base rom to use that doesnt have any bugs or anything. once this is all done you can put a wm6 rom on your wizard.

o ok i see, so i can download and install the 2.26 ROM from the T-Mobile USA website and it wont relock my phone, right? also "(i used 1.8 because i couldnt find 1.5 and it still worked)" you mean 1.05 right?

k2e15 said:
Alright, I understand where your coming from, I was in your shoes. lokiwiz will not work with 2.26. Therefore you have to downgrade your rom to 1.05( I used 1.8 because I couldnt find 1.5 and it still worked) Once you downgrade your rom then you can use lokiwiz to Cid unlock your phone. adding 2.26 after your cid unlock your phone will not lock it again given that you did everything correctly. 2.26 is a solid and steady base rom to use that doesnt have any bugs or anything. once this is all done you can put a wm6 rom on your wizard.
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All this is correct, but let me stress... You have to get both IPL and SPL down to 1.xx or when you go back to 2.xx you may find your device isn't really CID Unlocked... So follow that thread. It tells you to do the button downgrade, then do lokiwiz, then you have to downgrade again if your SPL still hasn't changed. Once you get both to 1.xx, THEN you can go back to an official 2.xx rom (TMo 2.26 is the suggested one). THen as long as you stay on 2.xx and above, you will not have to the the 1.xx downgrade ever again. You will remain CID Unlocked during all your flashing adventures.

Thx for covering that.. I forgot about that one.. .. as for using 1.05 when i tried to click the link, I had trouble and had to search for a different 1.rom. checked the link today and it works again.. Would have saved some time and stress. lol

I have a question, when i reach the part right after downgrading to 1.05 ROM and i click enablerapi do i install it to anywhere or just click it then run the lokiwiz.bat on the computer?

Install to the C Drive I believe

killerkhatiby009 said:
I have a question, when i reach the part right after downgrading to 1.05 ROM and i click enablerapi do i install it to anywhere or just click it then run the lokiwiz.bat on the computer?
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Are you following this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
It tells you there in the steps on where things go... Basically the enablerapi can be anyplace on your phone, just get it over there and run it. But Lokiwiz needs to be on the C:\ drive of your PC to work properly I believe

alright i have succesfully installed WM6 " the real thing" but now i cant make any SMS messages? how can i fix this, i know you have to change the address or something but i have no clue where to go so i can do that. Also is there a way to get free internet from T-Mobile USA? I also have another quesiton, how come sometimes in the little icon next to the signal icon, its G and other times its E? does it make a difference?

killerkhatiby009 said:
alright i have succesfully installed WM6 " the real thing" but now i cant make any SMS messages? how can i fix this, i know you have to change the address or something but i have no clue where to go so i can do that. Also is there a way to get free internet from T-Mobile USA? I also have another quesiton, how come sometimes in the little icon next to the signal icon, its G and other times its E? does it make a difference?
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You can't do SMS and MMS because you haven't set that stuff up yet apparently. EIther go to the T-Mo site and find the settings to plug into your phone, or search around here for the cabs for T-Mobile (I'm on Cingular so I don't have the T-Mo cabs to post)
G is straight GPRS. E is Edge (faster). I think the default TMo and Cingular stock roms turn this off from switching (so they always just show E). So now you are seeing when you are connected to the better net (but a lot of people don't care for that. again there is a cab around to turn that off)
Congrats on upgrading successfully.

ROM 1.05
Just in case this might help. Here is the link for the bottom 1.05 ROM. http://rapidshare.com/files/18212239/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe.html

killerkhatiby009 said:
Thanks for the quick response, ive been reading up a little and so far it seems like the WM 6 Roms run faster than the originals, i have also learned that i have a G3 Device. Anyway im going to unlock my device and install WM 6 but i dont really know which ROM to get. Which is the best WM 6 ROM?
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my advice is to download awizard thats the way i unlockt my mda vario
then flash it whith a black diamond 3.0 rom i think its the best and the fastes
sorry for my engilsh i am not that good
good luck

T-mobile MDA downgrade Ipl/Spl & WM6 Upgrade Issue

I followed Dr. Puttingham's thread and Yippie's thread to a tee in addition to reading threads in this forum for a good number of hours each day for two weeks. Yesterday, I became brave enough to downgrade my 2.26 Ipl / 2.26 spl; GSM 2.25.11; OS 2.26.10.2 MDA with a goal to upgrade to a custom WM6 rom with touchflo.
* Started with flashing the button rom then cid unlock with lockwiz2b which looked successful no errors but got a 1.xx IPL / 2.26 SPL since I got a 2.26 SPL then
* flashed the wizard love rom then then cid unlock with lockwiz2b which looked successful also but got the same results - a1.xx IPL / 2.26 SPL again then
* flashed the 2.26 T-mobile rom from the Tmobile website then
* flashed NBD 8.3 only to go back to Tmobile's 2.26 rom - DISAPPOINTED after two hours...............
Any assistance would be appreciated without bricking my MDA. Also, I read the thread on how to install a 2.x rom in a cid locked G3, this method appears a little bid complicated and if I need to move forward with this method, would this method work for any WM6 rom with touchflo and if somebody could simplify the method in layman's terms for newbie's like me could understand, please advice.
Let me know if I missed anything in the process.
Thanks, Technobuff

After u do cid unluck and sim unluck and its reboots do a downgrade again to the button rom and ur ipl and spl will change.(u do not have to re-due the onlucking procedure again)

I tried again performing Dr. Puttingham's CID unlocking process in terms of flashing the button rom then the CID unlock process using Lokowiz2b but while I am at the DOS screen trying to CID unlock my MDA it the DOS screen showed unlocking phone........DO NOT DISCONNECT UNTIL THE PHONE REBBOTS.
This process went on for 5 then 10 then past 30 minutes until I gave up. To be on the safe side I turned off the LAPTOP by taking the battery then pulled the USB cable from the PC to the MDA.
What is the typical timeframe for the unit to CID unlock? Why is is it hanging? Am I missing or skipping the process? How can I complete the process?
Any help would ber greatly appreciated by newbies who read threads.
Technobuff

The problem is that you need to have an IPL/SPL of 1.xx before you try to unlock your phone. CID unlocking will not change your SPL which means that you had an IPL of 1.xx and an SPL of 2.26 before you even tried to unlock. You need to reflash the button ROM over and over until your IPL and SPL both show 1.xx and then run lokiwiz.

dont get your point, i have been using shelltool for ages without any problems and quite a lot custom roms. my SLP/IPL is 3.08.
regards
irm

unlock problem
if your device doesn't reboot almost at once after the unlock, it probably didn't work. That is what happened to me. Did you get four lines of File cannot be opened or a similar message? I got that from following the 17 steps carefully. What was wrong for me was unzipping to the root directory of C:/. When I redid it to the desktop and executed from there, no problemo.
Your symptoms sound exactly like mine. I posted a longer thread, somewhere....
LH

Ok i did a little booboo and yesterday was using equinoxe's softspl tool by mistake (didn't notice i had a g3), this causes you to actually end up with the exact same os you had before you flashed.
The best advice I can give: Open the Dr's guide and follow every step closely. (also just found this guide. Its a bit simpler http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305225)
Once you CID unlock you should be able to use the RUUs to flash.
Make sure everytime you do any of the steps that dr. putt gives to be comepletely synced to activesync.
Also dont forget to load enablerapi.cab on your wizard.
Also you must use the unlock function before the cid unlock function in lokiwiz.
OH also the unlock will work after your ipl drops to 1.xx After you do the unlocks reflash button to drop the spl to 1.xx Then just flash up to a higher IPL/SPL as the Dr states.
If it seems unorganized im sorry =P
4irm said:
dont get your point, i have been using shelltool for ages without any problems and quite a lot custom roms. my SLP/IPL is 3.08.
regards
irm
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Umm I believe the IPL/SPL of 3.08 means your phone is unlocked... so you really shouldnt need to use shell tool. Some correct me if I'm wrong

slod said:
Umm I believe the IPL/SPL of 3.08 means your phone is unlocked... so you really shouldnt need to use shell tool. Some correct me if I'm wrong
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Just cause you have 3.08 does not mean you are unlocked..you could have upgraded a 2.xx ipl/spl without having downgraded and unlocked first.

thanks. helps me to learn stuff.

CID???
how wil i know if my fone mda vario is CID unlocked?
it is now installed with t-mobile 2.26 ROM
thanks.
rizortiz

famewolf said:
Just cause you have 3.08 does not mean you are unlocked..you could have upgraded a 2.xx ipl/spl without having downgraded and unlocked first.
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right, i installed the latest german t-mobile rom and my device is still locked. the point i made is why the hell does somebody want to downgrade? It doesnt matter if u use the shelltool.
regards
irm

4irm said:
right, i installed the latest german t-mobile rom and my device is still locked. the point i made is why the hell does somebody want to downgrade? It doesnt matter if u use the shelltool.
regards
irm
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Perhaps they want it actually cid unlocked for resale value...or perhaps they prefer the RUU method of installs vs having to use shelltool.

Flashing rom Noob Help.

I am a noob at flashing and this may have been explained already but i need better clarification.
I had previous sim and cid unlock my phone which is an Att tilt to now function with the T-mobile network.
In my my tri-color screen I have:
KAIS1*0 MFG
Spl-1.0. OliPof
CPLD-8
My radio is R 1.27.12.11
I used Olipof Hard Spl from my understanding,but I want to flash a new rom preferably Dutty v4. What I wanted to know is do I use a new Hard Spl since the rom is current and if so do I have to go through the same process? Also how do I actually flash the rom?
Again I know noob questions I apologize and would really appreciate your help and patience.

tony612 said:
I am a noob at flashing and this may have been explained already but i need better clarification.
I had previous sim and cid unlock my phone which is an Att tilt to now function with the T-mobile network.
In my my tri-color screen I have:
KAIS1*0 MFG
Spl-1.0. OliPof
CPLD-8
My radio is R 1.27.12.11
I used Olipof Hard Spl from my understanding,but I want to flash a new rom preferably Dutty v4. What I wanted to know is do I use a new Hard Spl since the rom is current and if so do I have to go through the same process? Also how do I actually flash the rom?
Again I know noob questions I apologize and would really appreciate your help and patience.
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if you want to update your hardspl to one of the 3.** hardspls released by jockyw, you can. These hardspl's were released to get rid of the screen freezes reported by everybody using wm6.1 on the old hardspl's. If you have done hardspl flash before than use the same procedure to flash one of the newer hardspls.
Check dutty's thread for what hardspl he recommends. Most commonly advised are 3.29 and 3.28; i had 3.56 and never had any problems with any of the roms.
To flash the rom you have to make sure your device is connected to pc via activesync. Than basically you have to uncompress the rom rar that you downloaded from here. In your folder you will have a ruu_signed.nbh and a kaisercustomruu.exe. You start the flash process by clicking (or double clicking) on the kaisercustomruu.exe. MAKE SURE YOU PHONE IS CONNECTED TO PC when starting this process and battery life is atleast 50%.
Oh and you should always read the wiki to gain more insight related to your device as your question is asked quite often and before posting you SHOULD HAVE checked this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835

SIM Unlock necessary for cooked ROMS?

I hate to create a new thread about this... but I read over the wiki a couple of times and I still wasn't clear about this.
I am getting an AT&T Fuze soon and I plan to flash it with the latest ROMeOS.
What steps do I need to take before I can do this? Do I just need to get Hard-SPL? Or do I need to do a SIM unlock also?
Also... does installing Hard-SPL CID unlock the phone?
Thanks in advance.
Oh by the way this forum is great! I really appreciate all the hard work you guys do to make these cooked ROMs and other tools. Cheers.

All of the questions you've asked have already been extensively covered, so this thread will most likely/hopefully be closed and deleted by the mods. But in a nutshell, to flash to a cooked ROM, you need to: 1) Flash Hard-SPL (prevents you from bricking your phone while flashing); 2) CID unlock your phone (this allows you to flash to any ROM; installing Hard-SPL doesn't CID unlock your phone). If you're just trying to change your ROM and not use the Fuze with a non-AT&T carrier, you don't need to SIM unlock.
Please take time to read the stickies, if you haven't already.

Dramacydle actually you are wrong.
You need just to flash HardSPL before flashing any TP-compatible ROM.
HardSPL and instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
HardSPL will not SIM-unlock your device

Yes the questions in this thread have been covered MANY times however if somebody is going to make a statement please make sure your facts are accurate
Questions answered.
Regards.

Sorry about that. I based my CID unlocking comment off of this link in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_CID_FAQ

CID unlock 3.56?

Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
.
.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!

If you have any of the HARD SPL installed(3.56 from your words).
You can flash any ROM you want.
No need to CID unlock separately.
With Hard SPL, your Device is CID unlocked already.

Your pda doesn't not have hard spl installed on it
Crogon said:
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
.
.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
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I'm sorry to tell you that this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
Is not hard spl and if you pda has hard spl installed is will say this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
I received my replacement Tilt 4 days ago from At&t and it came with WM6.1 and spl 3.56.0000 and you are right I cant find anything to change that spl. I have tried to CID UNlock and I get the white screen, so I tried jump spl 1.56 and 1.93 and neither one of them worked. So now I'm stuck with this 3.56.0000, I sent Jocky a PM and He told me that he was looking in to it and that he will get back to me. So I have to wait. Or maybe someone will read this that has a fix for this issue and help us.

I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.

BerettaFreak said:
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
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Yes I did all that I'm very familar with the process this is my 5th tilt 2 of them the CID Unlock run just fine and the other 2 I that to run jump 1.56 to get pass the white screen. But for some reason I cant get anything to work on this tilt. I even try to install the OG WM6.0 to try to downgrade the spl but that did work either. Do you have any other suggestions?

IIRC for me to run the CID unlocker program I needed to flash the SPL first.
What is happening when you are trying to run the Jump SPL files? It's just not making sense.
You need to flash Hard SPL 3.29 BEFORE you try to run the unlocker, you can't do 3.56 then try to unlock it. Once its unlocked then flash it with hard 3.56 if you so desire.

Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.

BerettaFreak said:
Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
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No what I'm trying to do is CID Unlock my phone but is not working I get the white screen. I have tried everything I know to get pass it. I'm not trying to install hard spl 3.29 or 3.56. I have to CID Unlock my phone first right? That is what I've always done before. I'm out of ideas.

What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.

BerettaFreak said:
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
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Thank you very much for all your help BerettaFreak you are the man!

Heeey! Did my thread get hijacked?
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!

Crogon said:
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
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CID Unlocking is done by installing the Hard SPL, the Hard SPL's don't check the Carrier ID (CID) when flashing new ROM's.
Crogon said:
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
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SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Crogon said:
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
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Just follow all the steps in the Guide by mskip and post and problems you have there. Understanding is not a pre-requisite, with that guide, you can figure out what all the steps do later...
Simply put:
HardSPL / CID Unlock / Super CID - Allows ROM's and Radio's to be flashed.
SIM Unlock - Allows you to use a foriegn SIM card
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
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Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!

Crogon said:
Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
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To Security Unlock, just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Then upgrade to HardSPL 3.56 again.
Security Unlocking is done by setting a flag in the NAND. It's permanent (unless you re-lock) and there are no comptability problems once it is set (you need to use a special Hard SPL to set it first though).
EDIT:
There is no list of known bad radio's - only the "Radio from Hell" 1.65.17.10 - but another Radio from hell could appear any day
Ta
Dave

Thanks for clearing that up Dave.
I think I'm going to opt to ignore the security unlock, since it sounds like it's on an 'as needed' basis.
I have 'batter fish to fry' at the moment. I'm grinding gears trying to figure out HOW to figure out which ROMs I should be looking into, in my other thread.
By the by guys, I was joking about the 'hijacked thread' thing, I'm sure somebody will find the info useful.

Just when i though I had this all figured out and was about to Flash my first ROM.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
P.S. On another note, I am using AT&T Tilt with shipped ROM running WM6 pro. I have about 40-50 programs installed on it. When first setting up my phone I did the soft reset which supposedly gets rid of the bloatware. Anyways, with all my programs and it being the stock ROM I still have 62MB free PROGRAM RAM. I do however only have like 30MB Storage RAM. But 62MB of free PROGRAM RAM. I see people with naked ROMS that only get like 55MB of free PROGRAM RAM, is my phone like magic or something? Just curious as to how this may be possible.

asofiker said:
Just when i though I had this all figured out.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
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There is a Hard SPL 1 by pof. Flash that first then follow Jocky's instructions.
Also the OliPro Security unlock isn't permenant, next time you flash a Radio it's gone.
Ta
Dave

Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?

asofiker said:
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
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Flashing a new SPL overrides the old one.
You said before you were happy with WM6.0, if so use either the pof Hard SPL v1 or the jockyw Hard SPL v1.1 (Part of the security unlock); if you are using WM6.1, use one of the jockyw or cmonex Hard SPL 3.**. Using the wrong version won't break your phone, but Windows will randomly freeze.
Ta
Dave

Thanks again Dave for helpin me out and not tearing me a new one. But just one last question.
If I find a new ROM that I want to Flash and it uses WM6.1 then I have to make sure that I flash a HardSPL 3.xx before flashing that new ROM, is that what ur saying?