I hate to create a new thread about this... but I read over the wiki a couple of times and I still wasn't clear about this.
I am getting an AT&T Fuze soon and I plan to flash it with the latest ROMeOS.
What steps do I need to take before I can do this? Do I just need to get Hard-SPL? Or do I need to do a SIM unlock also?
Also... does installing Hard-SPL CID unlock the phone?
Thanks in advance.
Oh by the way this forum is great! I really appreciate all the hard work you guys do to make these cooked ROMs and other tools. Cheers.
All of the questions you've asked have already been extensively covered, so this thread will most likely/hopefully be closed and deleted by the mods. But in a nutshell, to flash to a cooked ROM, you need to: 1) Flash Hard-SPL (prevents you from bricking your phone while flashing); 2) CID unlock your phone (this allows you to flash to any ROM; installing Hard-SPL doesn't CID unlock your phone). If you're just trying to change your ROM and not use the Fuze with a non-AT&T carrier, you don't need to SIM unlock.
Please take time to read the stickies, if you haven't already.
Dramacydle actually you are wrong.
You need just to flash HardSPL before flashing any TP-compatible ROM.
HardSPL and instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
HardSPL will not SIM-unlock your device
Yes the questions in this thread have been covered MANY times however if somebody is going to make a statement please make sure your facts are accurate
Questions answered.
Regards.
Sorry about that. I based my CID unlocking comment off of this link in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_CID_FAQ
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Was wondering if I needed to unlock my CID before flashing hardSPL? As it stands, my tilt just restarts after selecting 'Yes' to run 'EnterBL.exe' from the hardSPL setup and doesn't flash.
hardspl will cid unlock, and you should post the issue you having in the thread u got your hardspl from
I have, and I figured I would get that response too...the problem is that there are people in the hardspl thread saying, 'take it to the other forum,' and then there's the same response here saying, 'take it to the hardspl thread.'
your other post is in the hardspl thread of the hermes forum, and now you are posting in the kaiser forum, do you even know which device you actually have?
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I have, and I figured I would get that response too...the problem is that there are people in the hardspl thread saying, 'take it to the other forum,' and then there's the same response here saying, 'take it to the hardspl thread.'
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Definitive answer:
it's *physically impossible* to CID unlock before installing Hard-SPL because you need it to actually flash the patched radio that does the CID change.
Hard-SPL just ignores the CID, changing it with the unlocker is just for cosmetic reasons... or if you flash back to a stock SPL and want to flash any HTC official update regardless of target device brand.
*sigh* the nub sauce is running thick...that's what I get for having 10+ tabs of this stuff up >.< my appologies there...
I'm using the tilt (8925) so there shouldn't be any reason to go trolling the hermes forums.
So would I want to use the resources here or is there a newer version of hardSPL for my tilt?
Thread Closed....
Take your questions to the Kaiser HardSPL Thread, you will get all of your answers.
Sorry for the dumbness of the question, but do I have to sim-unlock my Kaiser (Orange) before flashing with a new radio/rom (Dutty's Hybrid 29/4). I've heard of unlockers just patching your current radio, so does flashing with a new radio automatically unlock the phone anyway?
One more thing - does this Dutty's rom (I'm going for the non-cube 1.65.14.06) also flash the radio, or is it just the rom? It says +(radio) on the posts, but I just want to be sure...
Cheers
Chris
Sim unlock, no. There is something called CID unlock which you must do in order to flash. You CID unlock by flashing HardSPL. Look it up. Sim unlock will let you use your device on any carrier.
The sim unlock works by patching a special radio (which is actually non functional as a radio, but it helps reveal the sim unlock code) and running a special program on the device and a computer. When you are done you have to flash back your original radio.
Flashing a new radio does not automatically unlock your phone.
Some of Dutty's roms come with a radio, some do not. If they say rom+radio they do. If they say rom only well, its rom only. You have to read each cooks individual FAQ/
thread to know what you are flashing.
i read somewhere that sometimes when you flash with simlock it is possible that it stops accepting any simcards.
so when i first flashed i also simunlocked.
but maybe im wrong and you dont have to do this.
i am sim, supercid, and security unlocked and haven't had any problems with my phone read the wiki it will help you understand everything
Yes you have to sim unlock your orange branded tytnII before flashing, search around xda there are a few free ways of doing this...
Just so I don't get flamed to bad for asking a what some would consider a simple question, I had an 8525 that I made SuperCID and HardSPL, so I have done this before. I have also read the majority of material in the wiki and the forums on what I would like to do.
So here goes,
I just purchased the Tilt and am looking to do the same. It is stock to the block right now.
ROM 1.62.502.0
Radio 1.27.14.09
Protocol 22.45.88.07H
My question is what is the sequence of events that I need to do in order to get my phone SuperCID and HardSPL to the point I can start using some of these wonderful 6.1 ROMS?
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
Now what SuperCID? I found 2, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
Any guidance would be very appreciated.
Thanks for your help
JD
The hardSPL depends on the ROM you're going to flash. Some ROMs work better with certain SPLs. Check.
For ease of mind, hardSPL first then security unlock. You can't go wrong in that order.
JudgeDredd67 said:
Just so I don't get flamed to bad for asking a what some would consider a simple question, I had an 8525 that I made SuperCID and HardSPL, so I have done this before. I have also read the majority of material in the wiki and the forums on what I would like to do.
So here goes,
I just purchased the Tilt and am looking to do the same. It is stock to the block right now.
ROM 1.62.502.0
Radio 1.27.14.09
Protocol 22.45.88.07H
My question is what is the sequence of events that I need to do in order to get my phone SuperCID and HardSPL to the point I can start using some of these wonderful 6.1 ROMS?
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
Now what SuperCID? I found 2, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
Any guidance would be very appreciated.
Thanks for your help
JD
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Ok, so I don't know about the super cid process but here's at least how you can start the journey:
Copy KAIS_SSPL onto your device
take out sim card and SD card
run KAIS_SSPL
Unplug USB wait 5 -15 seconds, plug in.
Run the Hard_SPL of your choice depending on your ROM choice. Seems like the ones out there are using 3.56, but it varies
Make sure to also flash a compatible radio!
Viola! you are done and ready to flash a ROM!
JudgeDredd67 said:
J
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
JD
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1.) Flash 1.1JockyW HardSPL
2.) Using Jockys SuperCID process security unlock your device.
3.) Flash to any other HardSPL
4.) Flash the ROM of your choice.
Thank you all for your comments. I feel a lot better going into this now.
Noob question sorry. Sequence of events....
Appologies in advance as this is obviously a nooby question....
I have just aquired a t-Mobile branded MDA Vario III. I want to CID/SIM Unlock it as well as Hard-SPL it so I can install whatever ROMs I would like.
I previously had a HTC Wizard that I CID & SIM unlocked with the Lociwiz tool, however I had to downgrade the IPL/SPL to version 1.x to get this to work. Once it was unlocked I was able to install any ROM. I am looking for a similar thing with my new Kaiser and I can't find a Wiki or guide explaining the steps. It seems there are 1.x HardSPL's as well as Security unlockers, plus 3.x HardSPLs but no definitive guide as to the correct sequence.
1. I want to unlock the phone so I can use any SIM
2. I want to unlock the phone so I can install any ROM
With the Wizard I had to downgrade IPL/SPL run the Lokiwiz tool and the upgrade to whatever I wanted. How do I do the same with the Kaiser?
Sorry....
Andy
ADB100 said:
Appologies in advance as this is obviously a nooby question....
I have just aquired a t-Mobile branded MDA Vario III. I want to CID/SIM Unlock it as well as Hard-SPL it so I can install whatever ROMs I would like.
I previously had a HTC Wizard that I CID & SIM unlocked with the Lociwiz tool, however I had to downgrade the IPL/SPL to version 1.x to get this to work. Once it was unlocked I was able to install any ROM. I am looking for a similar thing with my new Kaiser and I can't find a Wiki or guide explaining the steps. It seems there are 1.x HardSPL's as well as Security unlockers, plus 3.x HardSPLs but no definitive guide as to the correct sequence.
1. I want to unlock the phone so I can use any SIM
2. I want to unlock the phone so I can install any ROM
With the Wizard I had to downgrade IPL/SPL run the Lokiwiz tool and the upgrade to whatever I wanted. How do I do the same with the Kaiser?
Sorry....
Andy
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Since you are a Senior Member, you should already know the first rule is to search before creating new threads. However, since I am in a good mood from starting my new job this week, I will "help" you out. Check out the threads below, and after some in-depth reading, all of your question will be answered.
HardSPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Sim Unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
Now here is your nickels worth of free advice: Do NOT attempt to run the SIM Unlocker with a WM 6.1 ROM or the 3.xx HardSPL installed.
Closing this thread so it can fade away....
i purchased a kaiser that has been fully unlocked with no carriers attached to it. i want to install a cooked rom e.g Dutty on my phone. Do i still need to do the sim unlock and hard spl?. Can i just install the rom update without doing any of those steps?.
You don't need to sim unlock it but you will need to cid unlock the phone and install hard-spl still.
Jeff
READ READ READ. Trust me.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Hi guys I have htc X7510 with French WM6.1, I wanna switch it into English one, kindly give me hands to do it.
If your X7510 is already CID unlocked simply download one of Michys ROMs and install it.
If it is not unlocked, use cmonex way to change SPL, see "sticky" threads.
Dieter
Thank you for reply but; What do you mean by ......
1- CID LOCK OR UNLOCK?
2- What are the steps for doing what did you suggest?
3- Where I can find the tow ROMs that you mentioned?
First: YOU DON'T NEED TO SHOUT AROUND I can do louder
2nd: For unlocking: did you have a look into the Wiki ?
3rd: did you read cmonex post at the top of the X7510 page ?
4th: the ROMS are from Michyprima, did you find them ?
When done the steps above you may come back
Dieter
Dear Dieter
First I'm sorry for misunderstanding, but actually I have vision problem with the small font,so forgive me for that.
2- My knowledge in this field is almost zero; so I need step by step gaudiness.
3- I'll try to find what did you described later.
Last, thank you again and have a nice time.
Dear dottore,,the community will forgive you
But - to give you any step by step advise, we need to know whether your device is already unlocked or not !
It may even help to know whether you have a branded device or bought it directly from HTC.
Regards
Ok sorry to jump the thread, but since i have a similar thing going on ( German to English), i try to straight this out..
My Phone is unlocked, not any Branding, nothing, just in German ( got it as a gift from a friend)
So i gonna take one of this Rom´s ( for example the new Win 6.5 ), follow the instructions as seen at several Threads and that´s it?
That would be almost to easy?!
Zonga
You must make sure it is CID unlocked- not just SIM unlocked.
If in doubt, follow the instructions for installing HardSPL in the sticky thread at the top of this forum.
Once thats done, you can then install any ROM you want Make sure it is specifiucally for the X7510 though. X7500 ROMs won't work.
Don't bother with the WM6.5 ROMs yet- they simply don't work well enough for everyday use, but the WM6.1 ROMs are good.
Ok, Thanks for the Information..
Gonna read a bit more, and will also figure our what that
CID lock is about
I just have to find the time to flash the Phone and start reading .
ZongaBr said:
Ok, Thanks for the Information..
Gonna read a bit more, and will also figure our what that
CID lock is about
I just have to find the time to flash the Phone and start reading .
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ZongaBr, please, the opposite. First read and then flash your device. Other way you are gonna end up with a brick in your hand. But you already know it.
CID lock is a feature of SPL imposed by HTC and other phone producers, to make sure that the device produced for eg. for T-Mobile, with a specific ROM will not accept any other ROM made for, let's say O2. If your device is still CID locked and you try to flash it with any rom not aimed for this device, then you can have a brick after that or in best, it just refuses to be flashed, depending how advanced the flasher is.
But if you use this CID unlock procedure made by cmonx (from first sticky here) you will prepare your device to any ROM you wish providing that it is for X7510.
You can be sure i am going to read as much as i can ,and not before i understand how to do it the right way i will not try to do anything stupid!
I am new to Phone flashing, and changing ROM´s ect.
But i did work with other hardware like Game console, DVD, Sat rec.. and VoiP devices as well, and changed firmware, unlock and whatever.
I will report back, or even ask more questions in my Own Thread as soon i have the time to read me into this.
Thanks again
Zonga