Sorry for the dumbness of the question, but do I have to sim-unlock my Kaiser (Orange) before flashing with a new radio/rom (Dutty's Hybrid 29/4). I've heard of unlockers just patching your current radio, so does flashing with a new radio automatically unlock the phone anyway?
One more thing - does this Dutty's rom (I'm going for the non-cube 1.65.14.06) also flash the radio, or is it just the rom? It says +(radio) on the posts, but I just want to be sure...
Cheers
Chris
Sim unlock, no. There is something called CID unlock which you must do in order to flash. You CID unlock by flashing HardSPL. Look it up. Sim unlock will let you use your device on any carrier.
The sim unlock works by patching a special radio (which is actually non functional as a radio, but it helps reveal the sim unlock code) and running a special program on the device and a computer. When you are done you have to flash back your original radio.
Flashing a new radio does not automatically unlock your phone.
Some of Dutty's roms come with a radio, some do not. If they say rom+radio they do. If they say rom only well, its rom only. You have to read each cooks individual FAQ/
thread to know what you are flashing.
i read somewhere that sometimes when you flash with simlock it is possible that it stops accepting any simcards.
so when i first flashed i also simunlocked.
but maybe im wrong and you dont have to do this.
i am sim, supercid, and security unlocked and haven't had any problems with my phone read the wiki it will help you understand everything
Yes you have to sim unlock your orange branded tytnII before flashing, search around xda there are a few free ways of doing this...
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This might be a completely obvious question, but I cannot seem to find a thread on it. But I am just curious if there is any risk of losing my phone's SIM unlock status if I flash another ROM and/or Radio. I read something on the Radio page about 1.27.14.09 and locking to AT&T, but I didn't completely understand it.
Can anyone vouch for the fact that reflashing ROMs and Radios will not lose your SIM unlock status?
No you will not loose your SIM unlock.. If you use a AT-T rom with a non AT-T radio you will not get sound from your kaiser. Same issue if you use a AT-T radio with a non AT-T rom all you get is no sound. If you are planning to use a different rom than an AT-T then you must change your radio to match that rom. there is a whole thread on what radios will work with what roms and I think it is stickied
I read the thread "Kaiser Radios" and I was a bit confused, but thanks for the response. Out of curosity, where does the phone store the locked/unlocked status?
TyTN II Orange sim unlocking
Guys, sorry for the hassle but I am struggling. Want to sim-unlock my TyTN II. Tried to use IMEI CHECK but it failed to work. Any help would be very much appreciated. Keep on getting the error message that the software was designed for Kaiser devices only.
THX
H
Just so I don't get flamed to bad for asking a what some would consider a simple question, I had an 8525 that I made SuperCID and HardSPL, so I have done this before. I have also read the majority of material in the wiki and the forums on what I would like to do.
So here goes,
I just purchased the Tilt and am looking to do the same. It is stock to the block right now.
ROM 1.62.502.0
Radio 1.27.14.09
Protocol 22.45.88.07H
My question is what is the sequence of events that I need to do in order to get my phone SuperCID and HardSPL to the point I can start using some of these wonderful 6.1 ROMS?
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
Now what SuperCID? I found 2, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
Any guidance would be very appreciated.
Thanks for your help
JD
The hardSPL depends on the ROM you're going to flash. Some ROMs work better with certain SPLs. Check.
For ease of mind, hardSPL first then security unlock. You can't go wrong in that order.
JudgeDredd67 said:
Just so I don't get flamed to bad for asking a what some would consider a simple question, I had an 8525 that I made SuperCID and HardSPL, so I have done this before. I have also read the majority of material in the wiki and the forums on what I would like to do.
So here goes,
I just purchased the Tilt and am looking to do the same. It is stock to the block right now.
ROM 1.62.502.0
Radio 1.27.14.09
Protocol 22.45.88.07H
My question is what is the sequence of events that I need to do in order to get my phone SuperCID and HardSPL to the point I can start using some of these wonderful 6.1 ROMS?
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
Now what SuperCID? I found 2, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
Any guidance would be very appreciated.
Thanks for your help
JD
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Ok, so I don't know about the super cid process but here's at least how you can start the journey:
Copy KAIS_SSPL onto your device
take out sim card and SD card
run KAIS_SSPL
Unplug USB wait 5 -15 seconds, plug in.
Run the Hard_SPL of your choice depending on your ROM choice. Seems like the ones out there are using 3.56, but it varies
Make sure to also flash a compatible radio!
Viola! you are done and ready to flash a ROM!
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J
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
JD
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1.) Flash 1.1JockyW HardSPL
2.) Using Jockys SuperCID process security unlock your device.
3.) Flash to any other HardSPL
4.) Flash the ROM of your choice.
Thank you all for your comments. I feel a lot better going into this now.
Noob question sorry. Sequence of events....
Appologies in advance as this is obviously a nooby question....
I have just aquired a t-Mobile branded MDA Vario III. I want to CID/SIM Unlock it as well as Hard-SPL it so I can install whatever ROMs I would like.
I previously had a HTC Wizard that I CID & SIM unlocked with the Lociwiz tool, however I had to downgrade the IPL/SPL to version 1.x to get this to work. Once it was unlocked I was able to install any ROM. I am looking for a similar thing with my new Kaiser and I can't find a Wiki or guide explaining the steps. It seems there are 1.x HardSPL's as well as Security unlockers, plus 3.x HardSPLs but no definitive guide as to the correct sequence.
1. I want to unlock the phone so I can use any SIM
2. I want to unlock the phone so I can install any ROM
With the Wizard I had to downgrade IPL/SPL run the Lokiwiz tool and the upgrade to whatever I wanted. How do I do the same with the Kaiser?
Sorry....
Andy
ADB100 said:
Appologies in advance as this is obviously a nooby question....
I have just aquired a t-Mobile branded MDA Vario III. I want to CID/SIM Unlock it as well as Hard-SPL it so I can install whatever ROMs I would like.
I previously had a HTC Wizard that I CID & SIM unlocked with the Lociwiz tool, however I had to downgrade the IPL/SPL to version 1.x to get this to work. Once it was unlocked I was able to install any ROM. I am looking for a similar thing with my new Kaiser and I can't find a Wiki or guide explaining the steps. It seems there are 1.x HardSPL's as well as Security unlockers, plus 3.x HardSPLs but no definitive guide as to the correct sequence.
1. I want to unlock the phone so I can use any SIM
2. I want to unlock the phone so I can install any ROM
With the Wizard I had to downgrade IPL/SPL run the Lokiwiz tool and the upgrade to whatever I wanted. How do I do the same with the Kaiser?
Sorry....
Andy
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Since you are a Senior Member, you should already know the first rule is to search before creating new threads. However, since I am in a good mood from starting my new job this week, I will "help" you out. Check out the threads below, and after some in-depth reading, all of your question will be answered.
HardSPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Sim Unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
Now here is your nickels worth of free advice: Do NOT attempt to run the SIM Unlocker with a WM 6.1 ROM or the 3.xx HardSPL installed.
Closing this thread so it can fade away....
i purchased a kaiser that has been fully unlocked with no carriers attached to it. i want to install a cooked rom e.g Dutty on my phone. Do i still need to do the sim unlock and hard spl?. Can i just install the rom update without doing any of those steps?.
You don't need to sim unlock it but you will need to cid unlock the phone and install hard-spl still.
Jeff
READ READ READ. Trust me.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
I hate to create a new thread about this... but I read over the wiki a couple of times and I still wasn't clear about this.
I am getting an AT&T Fuze soon and I plan to flash it with the latest ROMeOS.
What steps do I need to take before I can do this? Do I just need to get Hard-SPL? Or do I need to do a SIM unlock also?
Also... does installing Hard-SPL CID unlock the phone?
Thanks in advance.
Oh by the way this forum is great! I really appreciate all the hard work you guys do to make these cooked ROMs and other tools. Cheers.
All of the questions you've asked have already been extensively covered, so this thread will most likely/hopefully be closed and deleted by the mods. But in a nutshell, to flash to a cooked ROM, you need to: 1) Flash Hard-SPL (prevents you from bricking your phone while flashing); 2) CID unlock your phone (this allows you to flash to any ROM; installing Hard-SPL doesn't CID unlock your phone). If you're just trying to change your ROM and not use the Fuze with a non-AT&T carrier, you don't need to SIM unlock.
Please take time to read the stickies, if you haven't already.
Dramacydle actually you are wrong.
You need just to flash HardSPL before flashing any TP-compatible ROM.
HardSPL and instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
HardSPL will not SIM-unlock your device
Yes the questions in this thread have been covered MANY times however if somebody is going to make a statement please make sure your facts are accurate
Questions answered.
Regards.
Sorry about that. I based my CID unlocking comment off of this link in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_CID_FAQ
Hey Everyone-
This post has probably already been answered but i have been searching the forums (and google) and getting mixed results.
I looking to flash the ROM on my HTC Touch Pro (Fuze). However, I've read that my phone must be unlocked to flash a new radio, but not a new ROM. However I've also read that with a new ROM comes a new Radio. So which is it? Do i need to unlock my phone to flash a new ROM because if not i will have a phone w/o a Radio?
Thanks alot, these forums are awesome.
From my understanding, you only need to unlock the phone if you want to use another device's radio. For example, you have a Touch Pro, if you wanted to put a Touch HD radio on it then the phone needs to be unlocked. However, if you want to put another Touch Pro radio on your touch pro you shouldn't need to unlock the phone.
To answer your second question about Roms with or without radios.... They come both ways but I have mostly seen Roms without included radios. Just read the desired Rom info page to find out if it includes a radio or not.
Unlock (HardSPL) is always necessary. No matter if u flash a radio, a rom or a radio/rom.
The only moment when u do not need to unlock is if u flash an official update , radio or rom, that is made from ur provider for ur phone. Or if its unbranded , the update is downloaded from htc itself with ur serial number entered befor.
BTW: Unlock (HardSPL) means that the loader of ur phone accepts NOT signed Roms or radio files for flashing.
Thank you both for the quick replies. So that i have this clear-
I can download and run hardspl according to the instructions etc, etc. Then if i choose to flash a rom without a radio i can. Then (or before) I can flash a Fuze Radio to my phone all without sim unlocking my phone?
Do i have that right?
Thank a million
Fuzer_Guy said:
Thank you both for the quick replies. So that i have this clear-
I can download and run hardspl according to the instructions etc, etc. Then if i choose to flash a rom without a radio i can. Then (or before) I can flash a Fuze Radio to my phone all without sim unlocking my phone?
Do i have that right?
Thank a million
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Not shure if I got u correct in the first post:
By unlock do u mean SIM unlock ? Means use sims from any provider.
By unlock u mean entering the pin number to use ur phone ?
By unlock u mean (what I thought first) enabling the phone to accept any kind of rom ?
Normally a new radio is not always needed, I flash most of the times leaving my radio as it is, if its good in reception and power consumption
2. What are the different types of Unlock? (answer by DaveShaw)
The three stages of unlock are:
SIM: Allows you to use SIM's from another carrier. Can be done using codes or unlocker programs on xda-devs.
Security: Allows you to flash radios from another device (i.e. Raphael) - It does other stuff, but this is all the casual user will use it for
CID: CID unlocking is an old concept, nowadays you flash Hard SPL instead. This lets you flash any ROM, Splash or Radio (depending on sec unlock) to your device. N.B. the CID is the carrier ID (e.g. HTC__001). The stock SPL's only let you flash ROM's that match the CID in the ROM image with the CID on your device.
Also, SuperCID is an even older concept no longer valid on newer devices.
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These are what I understand as the levels of Unlocking... so you're right. I was talking about a security unlock (my apologies). The carrier shouldn't have anything to do with the process. And i don't need special software to security unlock the phone right? (that's where i was getting confused)
As for that last part--
So assuming i like the reception and battery usage i get right now I can flash any ROM i want w/o worrying about losing the radio? And if i do get a ROM with a radio is the radio installed automatically or are there two steps? Thus enabling me to install the ROM without the radio that came with it?
Many Thanks
Fuzer_Guy said:
These are what I understand as the levels of Unlocking... so you're right. I was talking about a security unlock (my apologies). The carrier shouldn't have anything to do with the process. And i don't need special software to security unlock the phone right? (that's where i was getting confused)
As for that last part--
So assuming i like the reception and battery usage i get right now I can flash any ROM i want w/o worrying about losing the radio? And if i do get a ROM with a radio is the radio installed automatically or are there two steps? Thus enabling me to install the ROM without the radio that came with it?
Many Thanks
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Ok, first u have to HardSPL (What does: Ur Phone accepts any radio and/or rom)
From here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
NOTE 3: this is unsigned Hard-SPL. no limitations on flashing ROMs or radio packages. also, this has overwrite protection, if someone needs to revert to stock SPL for warranty reasons, we will soon post a stock SPL downgrade package.
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If u have a touch pro and want to use Diamond or Blackstone radios then u have to do look here, first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426609
Then:
Flash ROM -> ur radio stays the same
Flash Radio -> ur rom stays the same
Flash all in one -> Both are changing, radio and rom.
Look in the roms thread, they tell u if it comes with or without radio. I think most of the times without. The original Raphael rom from HTC is WITH radio btw
Thank you very, very, very much!!!
Im gonna give this a try now.
Once again, many thanks.
Fuzer_Guy said:
Thank you very, very, very much!!!
Im gonna give this a try now.
Once again, many thanks.
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Make sure to thoroughly read through the stickys on flashing a rom........
overall, as mentioned, hardspl first, then falsh rom, hard reset, then flash radio, hard reset, then install rilphone cab and you're good to go....
read read read....