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Hi guys before I start, I have read numerous posts and tried to do as much reading before writing this, but my findings are not conclusive.
I have just got a new M600, so it’s locked to Orange and has no rom alterations done.
I want to upgrade my rom as I don’t like the Orange stuff in there anyway and I was very happy with a Qtek rom on my M500.
1 Do I need to sim unlock the phone, to rom upgrade?
2 Can I just upgrade using the files as in post http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=49298
3 There’s talk of the CID being unlocked, does this need to be done, before upgrade.
4 There is no sure way of backing up existing rom?.
5 Once upgraded, is the phone still sim locked.
Basically I don’t want a brick sitting on my desktop.
Regards
Up!
I too want to update my Orange France SPV M600 freshly bought this week but i don't know if i need to CID unlock the phone before upgrading with a Qtek rom.
And another n00b question: is there a list somewhere with the new features of the roms ?
Thanks in advance ^^
who can hep me
I too want to update my Orange France SPV M600 but my Orange France SPV M600 is now in 3 line color and numberis: IPL 2.10.0001 and SPL 2.G3
Reading the XDA-Wiki, you can see that a CID unlock is required for doing anything with ROMS. As a result, if you have a G3 phone, which you need to check, then follow the instructions here
If you have a G4 prohpet, then unfortunatley you cannot CID unlock the phone, thus no ROMS.
SIM unlock isnt required for ROM upgrades, but the CID criteria must be met.
Once again, if you had read the wiki, you would know that ROM backup is available here
Hope this helps,
Sorry for the dumbness of the question, but do I have to sim-unlock my Kaiser (Orange) before flashing with a new radio/rom (Dutty's Hybrid 29/4). I've heard of unlockers just patching your current radio, so does flashing with a new radio automatically unlock the phone anyway?
One more thing - does this Dutty's rom (I'm going for the non-cube 1.65.14.06) also flash the radio, or is it just the rom? It says +(radio) on the posts, but I just want to be sure...
Cheers
Chris
Sim unlock, no. There is something called CID unlock which you must do in order to flash. You CID unlock by flashing HardSPL. Look it up. Sim unlock will let you use your device on any carrier.
The sim unlock works by patching a special radio (which is actually non functional as a radio, but it helps reveal the sim unlock code) and running a special program on the device and a computer. When you are done you have to flash back your original radio.
Flashing a new radio does not automatically unlock your phone.
Some of Dutty's roms come with a radio, some do not. If they say rom+radio they do. If they say rom only well, its rom only. You have to read each cooks individual FAQ/
thread to know what you are flashing.
i read somewhere that sometimes when you flash with simlock it is possible that it stops accepting any simcards.
so when i first flashed i also simunlocked.
but maybe im wrong and you dont have to do this.
i am sim, supercid, and security unlocked and haven't had any problems with my phone read the wiki it will help you understand everything
Yes you have to sim unlock your orange branded tytnII before flashing, search around xda there are a few free ways of doing this...
Just so I don't get flamed to bad for asking a what some would consider a simple question, I had an 8525 that I made SuperCID and HardSPL, so I have done this before. I have also read the majority of material in the wiki and the forums on what I would like to do.
So here goes,
I just purchased the Tilt and am looking to do the same. It is stock to the block right now.
ROM 1.62.502.0
Radio 1.27.14.09
Protocol 22.45.88.07H
My question is what is the sequence of events that I need to do in order to get my phone SuperCID and HardSPL to the point I can start using some of these wonderful 6.1 ROMS?
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
Now what SuperCID? I found 2, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
Any guidance would be very appreciated.
Thanks for your help
JD
The hardSPL depends on the ROM you're going to flash. Some ROMs work better with certain SPLs. Check.
For ease of mind, hardSPL first then security unlock. You can't go wrong in that order.
JudgeDredd67 said:
Just so I don't get flamed to bad for asking a what some would consider a simple question, I had an 8525 that I made SuperCID and HardSPL, so I have done this before. I have also read the majority of material in the wiki and the forums on what I would like to do.
So here goes,
I just purchased the Tilt and am looking to do the same. It is stock to the block right now.
ROM 1.62.502.0
Radio 1.27.14.09
Protocol 22.45.88.07H
My question is what is the sequence of events that I need to do in order to get my phone SuperCID and HardSPL to the point I can start using some of these wonderful 6.1 ROMS?
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
Now what SuperCID? I found 2, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
Any guidance would be very appreciated.
Thanks for your help
JD
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Ok, so I don't know about the super cid process but here's at least how you can start the journey:
Copy KAIS_SSPL onto your device
take out sim card and SD card
run KAIS_SSPL
Unplug USB wait 5 -15 seconds, plug in.
Run the Hard_SPL of your choice depending on your ROM choice. Seems like the ones out there are using 3.56, but it varies
Make sure to also flash a compatible radio!
Viola! you are done and ready to flash a ROM!
JudgeDredd67 said:
J
What HardSPL? v1.0? 3.56? I would guess 3.56 and that it should be the first thing I do.
JD
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1.) Flash 1.1JockyW HardSPL
2.) Using Jockys SuperCID process security unlock your device.
3.) Flash to any other HardSPL
4.) Flash the ROM of your choice.
Thank you all for your comments. I feel a lot better going into this now.
Noob question sorry. Sequence of events....
Appologies in advance as this is obviously a nooby question....
I have just aquired a t-Mobile branded MDA Vario III. I want to CID/SIM Unlock it as well as Hard-SPL it so I can install whatever ROMs I would like.
I previously had a HTC Wizard that I CID & SIM unlocked with the Lociwiz tool, however I had to downgrade the IPL/SPL to version 1.x to get this to work. Once it was unlocked I was able to install any ROM. I am looking for a similar thing with my new Kaiser and I can't find a Wiki or guide explaining the steps. It seems there are 1.x HardSPL's as well as Security unlockers, plus 3.x HardSPLs but no definitive guide as to the correct sequence.
1. I want to unlock the phone so I can use any SIM
2. I want to unlock the phone so I can install any ROM
With the Wizard I had to downgrade IPL/SPL run the Lokiwiz tool and the upgrade to whatever I wanted. How do I do the same with the Kaiser?
Sorry....
Andy
ADB100 said:
Appologies in advance as this is obviously a nooby question....
I have just aquired a t-Mobile branded MDA Vario III. I want to CID/SIM Unlock it as well as Hard-SPL it so I can install whatever ROMs I would like.
I previously had a HTC Wizard that I CID & SIM unlocked with the Lociwiz tool, however I had to downgrade the IPL/SPL to version 1.x to get this to work. Once it was unlocked I was able to install any ROM. I am looking for a similar thing with my new Kaiser and I can't find a Wiki or guide explaining the steps. It seems there are 1.x HardSPL's as well as Security unlockers, plus 3.x HardSPLs but no definitive guide as to the correct sequence.
1. I want to unlock the phone so I can use any SIM
2. I want to unlock the phone so I can install any ROM
With the Wizard I had to downgrade IPL/SPL run the Lokiwiz tool and the upgrade to whatever I wanted. How do I do the same with the Kaiser?
Sorry....
Andy
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Since you are a Senior Member, you should already know the first rule is to search before creating new threads. However, since I am in a good mood from starting my new job this week, I will "help" you out. Check out the threads below, and after some in-depth reading, all of your question will be answered.
HardSPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Sim Unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
Now here is your nickels worth of free advice: Do NOT attempt to run the SIM Unlocker with a WM 6.1 ROM or the 3.xx HardSPL installed.
Closing this thread so it can fade away....
So I have followed the guides, two of them conflicting each other (one tells me Wizard Love while other says Button)
So I pick wizard love because I did the factory update a few years back to 2.25
use loki3
run tmobile 2.26 and it fails
run the 3.08 and it works
try to install TNT roms... all get stuck at 99% except one but the rom doesn't work because I am still on windows 5.1
Now on my third attempt it gets stuck at bootloader. Can't get the phone to turn back on to normal mode just to use it and forget about trying these roms
Any ideas?
Got button to work some how
Now I am at IPL 1.01 and SPL 3.08
Hopefully I can redo everything and get 6.1 to work
It tells me my CID/SIM but no where does anyone tell me where I need to insert this ID code at.
ID code? What do you mean by that?
I ment CID, it was telling me the CID like if I needed to enter some sort of menu and run it
Running t-mobile rom again, hopefully this works
You sure that it wasnt asking for a SIM unlock code? OR was it giving you a "data crashes" message?
Nope neither of those.
Anyways
Tmobile screen pops up now with 2.26/2.26
In regards to installing new roms, do I just launch ROMUpdateUtility or Do I need to do a CID unlock again?
Also saw there is 3.08/3.08 available, Update before or after upgrading the wm6.1 rom?
Well, lemme ask you this, what is your device? Is it a G3 or a G4, if G3, then sure, update your IPL/SPL after you upgrade. If it is a G4 however, FOR THE LOVE OF TUNA DO NOT upgrade your IPL/SPL or you will have a brick on your hands. And also, if you have used HardSPL, then no, you do not have to CID unlock your device again. Personally, I just use the SoftSPL method each time I load a ROM. If your device is a G4, I have made a guide in the G4 section that should help you. Its got screenshots and such aswell.
G3
Yay somehow it worked this time, 6.1 is nice
I did softspl
3.08 worth it?
If you device is G3 - FORGET HARDSPL
You mention that you have IPL 1.xx and SPL 3.xx
get WST - Wizard Service Tool and follow the instructions to cid unlock you device, unfortunately you cannot unlock your SIM with the SPl that you have for now
After that flash a carrier ROm to align your IPL/SPL to 2.xx
Ohh it now displays 2.26 on both IPL/SPL
From what I read, 3.08 is mainly for the european radio brand in terms of what the focus on it was for
<---AT&T
Hopefully this will be my last month with this company, figured I try some things out before I put the phone away or give it away to a friend.
Ok, you have a G3 device
Get WST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
Install in your PC (XP not Vista), check the situation about your CID and SIM
If you have CID unlock = SUpercid you can flash any ROm you want, if not you must downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx (Button Rom)
WST Unlock only works with IPL/SPL 1.xx
Note that SIM can only be unlocked with your SPL as 1.xx
go on run, type msconfig and open that, close all microsoft services and install,
Ckamc said:
Ohh it now displays 2.26 on both IPL/SPL
From what I read, 3.08 is mainly for the european radio brand in terms of what the focus on it was for
<---AT&T
Hopefully this will be my last month with this company, figured I try some things out before I put the phone away or give it away to a friend.
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DUDE! I'm your friend you can give it to me
Or you could use tmobile with that phone (or any other company that uses sim chips for service) .
Once you have it completely unlocked (cid/sim) you can take it traveling to other countries and use their prepaid sim cards... This is an open phone. dont get rid of it.
on second thought, I will buy it from you if you dont see a reason why you would keep it. I could use a backup to test my cooking on PM me
HAHAHAHA
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DUDE! I'm your friend you can give it to me
Or you could use tmobile with that phone (or any other company that uses sim chips for service) .
Once you have it completely unlocked (cid/sim) you can take it traveling to other countries and use their prepaid sim cards... This is an open phone. dont get rid of it.
on second thought, I will buy it from you if you dont see a reason why you would keep it. I could use a backup to test my cooking on PM me
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You know when an oportunittie comes huh!
I can buy it too but its more glad to see a wizard function well with 6.1
hope you can unlock and upgrade... if not... READ a lot.
Losing Mind (again)
OK, here we go.
First off, I am in no way new to Flashing or the logistics behind it. I am sure this is just something that I cant find by searching. But my problem is this.
I have a G3 TMOBILE USA MDA (Wizard). I have used the lokiwiz2 unlock software several times and according to the program I am SUPERCID unlocked. I am able to flash ROMS all day long. I get no error about loading. What is happening is that I almost always end up with the same default ROM after the FLASH is completed. I am now sitting with the Button ROM on the unit. I assume if the Button ROM loads, then I should be CID Unlocked otr it would not load (or is this my mistake in thinking?)
As my MDA sits now, I have the Beer Mug Displayed, IPL 1.05
SPL 2.26 GSM 01.12.10 OS 1.5.4.2
Now, if I go and try to Flash to one of the Two ROMS I want to go to
TMOUS_MDA_5.2.1629_Wing_Port_1.1 (Boring ROM) or I try with SNN 3.1 it will run the procedure perfectly, and I will end up with a Barebones version of Windows Mobile 5.0. This is wild.
Has anyone seen this happen and is laughing and going "Been there, here is the problem,,) or do I need to discuss this in more detail.
Im wondering if the ROM Upgrade Software is grabbing a ROM from elsewhere on my Hard Drive and is installing it from cache or something like that. Is there another version of the OS Upgrader that allows me to tell it exactly what ROM I want installed, instead of just installing whatever it wants.
Thanks for the help, after two days of searching and looking around, I can deal with amteur hour emabreesment, just HELP!!
My xv6800 and my 8125 was a breeze compared to this nitemare. (BTW, I also flashed this 2 years ago with the TMOBILE USA Official Release, no issue)
wyreless
Well,these are symptoms of CID not unlocked.Button's Rom flashed doesn't mean its CID unlocked,its a patched IPL/SPL rom simply to downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx for CID unlocking.
Simply,download WST_4.2.2 and run it to verify the CID lock/unlock status of the phone and do the right thing onwards.
Thank You Zabardast for the quick and to the point answer.
I was thinking in the back of my head it was a CID issue. It was just that everything seemed to be "moving right along". I sthere an easier or better Unlocking soiftware then lokwhiz for the Wizard Series, specifically my USA Tmobile MDA?
Well,if you have Button's Rom running successfully,so its IPL/SPL must be 1.xx already,there shudn't be any problem to use lokiwiz02b to CID unlock the phone,you can even use WST_4.2.2 tool also to easily CID unlock the phone.
There's no other method known to get CID unlocked a wizard freely,unless you are ready to pay to IMEI company to get a unlock code
hey alll..ok i screwed up
i downloaded Charecters ROM..i used WST and it showed that my device is G3 and its CID locked..well i just started the Flashing and it stuck at 99%
now it wont load any ROM and just as i came from school..its not evening starting..its not evening charging..please help any one
for one to flash a rom you must CID unlock it first...
I hate to create a new thread about this... but I read over the wiki a couple of times and I still wasn't clear about this.
I am getting an AT&T Fuze soon and I plan to flash it with the latest ROMeOS.
What steps do I need to take before I can do this? Do I just need to get Hard-SPL? Or do I need to do a SIM unlock also?
Also... does installing Hard-SPL CID unlock the phone?
Thanks in advance.
Oh by the way this forum is great! I really appreciate all the hard work you guys do to make these cooked ROMs and other tools. Cheers.
All of the questions you've asked have already been extensively covered, so this thread will most likely/hopefully be closed and deleted by the mods. But in a nutshell, to flash to a cooked ROM, you need to: 1) Flash Hard-SPL (prevents you from bricking your phone while flashing); 2) CID unlock your phone (this allows you to flash to any ROM; installing Hard-SPL doesn't CID unlock your phone). If you're just trying to change your ROM and not use the Fuze with a non-AT&T carrier, you don't need to SIM unlock.
Please take time to read the stickies, if you haven't already.
Dramacydle actually you are wrong.
You need just to flash HardSPL before flashing any TP-compatible ROM.
HardSPL and instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
HardSPL will not SIM-unlock your device
Yes the questions in this thread have been covered MANY times however if somebody is going to make a statement please make sure your facts are accurate
Questions answered.
Regards.
Sorry about that. I based my CID unlocking comment off of this link in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_CID_FAQ