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Hello everyone,
I'm totally lost in this WM6 upgrade.
I've tried everything but i wont get my MDA Vario to flash with WM6.
My MDA Vario is unlocked (sim and CID) but i can't flash it because of my SPL 2.21????
This is what i have done:
installed button's 1.05 ROM
Download & installed lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b.
But stil my SPL is at 2.21.
Can someone please help me out here??
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Schmia
Both your IPL and your SPL must be 2.xx and higher. After you flashed to Buttons rom. did you reflash to a higher version after after you unlocked and cid unlocked your phone to make sure both IPL and SPL were 2.xx or higher?
I've followed the tutorial:
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
17. My suggestion, take for what it's worth, is to download and install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM
This will give you a strong 2.26 IPL and SPL to work with.
My IPL was 1.XX after the 1.05 downgrade, but my SPL was still 2.21 even after the rerun.
I have tried to instal T-Mobile 2.26 rom, but it gave an error.
check if you have G3 or G4 unit
I have a 3G device.
Is there nobody who can help me???
schmia said:
Is there nobody who can help me???
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I think that you haven't unlocked the phone properly. Read Dr. P's tutorial about unlocking G3 phones.
Kirby
if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different.
WHen you downgrade to the Button rom, in most cases the IPL will change, but the SPL will not. You then have to downgrade again to get the SPL to get to 1.xx . There have been some cases reported where it takes reflahsing the button rom many times (like 8 times or somesuch) before the SPL will finally come down, but you have to complete this step or you will not be CID Unlocked.
Make sure you have your SD card out when you are flashing as this can cause problems.
Good luck, and sorry, but for those that have run into the stuck SPL there hasn't been a real solution other than keep flashing the button rom until it drops down to 1.xx. After that then the CID unlock will be complete and you can then flash the T-Mobile 2.26 rom (or whatever other 2.xx rom you want).
mfrazzz said:
WHen you downgrade to the Button rom, in most cases the IPL will change, but the SPL will not. You then have to downgrade again to get the SPL to get to 1.xx . There have been some cases reported where it takes reflahsing the button rom many times (like 8 times or somesuch) before the SPL will finally come down, but you have to complete this step or you will not be CID Unlocked.
Make sure you have your SD card out when you are flashing as this can cause problems.
Good luck, and sorry, but for those that have run into the stuck SPL there hasn't been a real solution other than keep flashing the button rom until it drops down to 1.xx. After that then the CID unlock will be complete and you can then flash the T-Mobile 2.26 rom (or whatever other 2.xx rom you want).
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This should be added to the tutorials about Unlocking & Rom Upgrading.
And this quote also.
"if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different."
Cing 8125 said:
This should be added to the tutorials about Unlocking & Rom Upgrading.
And this quote also.
"if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different."
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The Dr. P tutorial specifically says this (just not in those words). It tells you (after the last lokiwiz) to watch your screen and that you most likely will still have an SPL of 2.xx and will need to reflash (most people just don't read this and try to move on). The part of about having to reflash numerous times is new though. I've only heard of it a few times, but if you look at the posts from a month or so agao in the Dr P thread on unlocking you'll see where a few people ran into it and it took numerous flashes to finally get SPL to go to 1.xx.
before wm6 roms, every time there was a new rom for wm5 (molski or faria) you'd always get people in the thread mentioning that their ipl and spl are different. in those threads, the advice has always been to reflash a few extra times too. (I personally haven't had any problems with this...but i think i started my unlocking on a 1.8 us t-mobile rom with xelencin's rom...which had an unlocker built into the rom update package).
anyway, the phone's not bricked or anything, so you just have to keep flashing to get it working...
xelencin's rom (the first rom I ever flashed...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274205&highlight=xelencin
monkey_knight said:
if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different.
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I've re-flashed 3 times but if i understand correct, than i have to retry flashing until SPL and IPL are the same?
Regards,
Schmia
schmia said:
I've re-flashed 3 times but if i understand correct, than i have to retry flashing until SPL and IPL are the same?
Regards,
Schmia
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yes. ipl and spl should both drop to 1.05. at that point you can go through the unlock and flash back up.
Thanks Guys!!!
With all your good advise, i finally have my MDA Vario flashed with a WM6 rom (TNT 2.0 Professional)
I'm really greatfull to you!
Now i have to find out what WM6 rom is the best for me.
Regards,
Schmia
im just curious as to what the main difference is in having an IPL/SPl of, say, 2.25 vs 3.08 or something else. if anyone could help that would be great
higher IPL/SPL is supposed to give faster boot times
If you do some searching, you'll discover that IPLs/SPLs higher than 2.26 tend to cause problems with custom WM6 ROMs. There's no reason to go any higher than 2.26.
kegobeer said:
higher than 2.26 tend to cause problems with custom WM6 ROMs
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could you explain that? never read that before since i'm here.
backslash2k said:
could you explain that? never read that before since i'm here.
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I believe his key words were "If you do some searching....."
No. I do have no problem so far. My IPL and SPL are both 3.08 and using NBD. Very stable and very fast after changing pagepool to 12MB.
IPL/SPL not the same
Hi,
I upgraded my os to WM6 and followed the thread in this forum. Then my IPL/SPL is 2.16. Now they are different , my IPL is 1.01 and my SPL is 2.16, does this matter? Did I missed some procedure? Is there a procedure that can make the IPL/SPL with the same number?
Ephraim.
ephraimdy said:
Hi,
I upgraded my os to WM6 and followed the thread in this forum. Then my IPL/SPL is 2.16. Now they are different , my IPL is 1.01 and my SPL is 2.16, does this matter? Did I missed some procedure? Is there a procedure that can make the IPL/SPL with the same number?
Ephraim.
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try to run the Button_rom again...
ephraimdy said:
Hi,
I upgraded my os to WM6 and followed the thread in this forum. Then my IPL/SPL is 2.16. Now they are different , my IPL is 1.01 and my SPL is 2.16, does this matter? Did I missed some procedure? Is there a procedure that can make the IPL/SPL with the same number?
Ephraim.
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You didn't follow the flashing guide. This time, read the entire guide and all of the stickies before you attempt to unlock your phone.
I don't have any problems with IPL/SPL 3.08, its working great with WM6 and it has bit fast booting time, and i believe this is solid as T-Mob's 2.26. Newer Bootloader doesn't have any issue, beside i dont have any lockups after 3.08. Anyways its your own pref. so i prefer 3.08 and radio 2.69.11 for T-Mob users.
ephraimdy said:
Hi,
I upgraded my os to WM6 and followed the thread in this forum. Then my IPL/SPL is 2.16. Now they are different , my IPL is 1.01 and my SPL is 2.16, does this matter? Did I missed some procedure? Is there a procedure that can make the IPL/SPL with the same number?
Ephraim.
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you may have missed a step about having to reflash buttons/love rom a few times until both ipl/spl are in the 1.xx. afterwards flash up to a 2.xx rom (recommended t-mobile usa 2.26), then flash to a 3.xx if you want to (floating around, but there is an official t-mobile ver in germany).
i went to upgrade my ipl/spl and i ran into a problem. the ruu tool reset my phone as usual to restart in bootloader but it never came back on. it cut off and now it wont turn on. can someone help? is my phone bricked?
try booting manually into bootloader if that works, restore using the Official ROM that comes from Carrier.
edit: wait are you telling me that you upgraded your IPL/SPL on G4???? with G3.... Dude thats bad sign
nycelitemaster said:
try booting manually into bootloader if that works, restore using the Official ROM that comes from Carrier.
edit: wait are you telling me that you upgraded your IPL/SPL on G4???? with G3.... Dude thats bad sign
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::gulp:: how bad exactly?
SUPER-BAD
G4 + IPL of G3 is BAD!
Not to be insulting at all, but didn't you read those numerous warnings about NOT Flashing G3 with G4, and vice-versa?
Merlin_reloaded said:
SUPER-BAD
G4 + IPL of G3 is BAD!
Not to be insulting at all, but didn't you read those numerous warnings about NOT Flashing G3 with G4, and vice-versa?
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i f**ked up... maybe i can pull a new one from att
There are possibilities for reviving a bricked G4, you might want to check this
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
thanks man ill check it out. wish me luck...
thunda_chunky said:
thanks man ill check it out. wish me luck...
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Try Googling as well, you might get some ideas and yea good luck bro. I've got a friend who bricked his G4 and revived with those ideas. If you phone is under warranty you can call ATT with last resort and say something happened to your phone when you restarted, never tell them you upgraded the bootloader that is how you messed up.
1 question when your buddys g4 was bricked what was its condition?
does any one now how to lower the spl . when u start the ppc mine is 3.08 and i need it lower so i can unlock my phone
Well, my guess is that your phone is already unlocked if your SPL is 3.08.
Is is a G3 or G4 Wizard?
G3 But I Wont To Put Black Diamond On It
So just try to launch the setup for BD to know if it really isn't already unlocked (in case it is, the Rom will install, and if it isn't, then it just won't, so theres' no risk for your phone.
Ya It Says Like Bnf Error
So you just have to follow the Wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
i need to downgrade me spl first i no how to unlock it
So what? Can't you READ? Everything is written in there, including the way to downgrade.
Here is a link to the adequate Rom since you seem so lazy...
Good luck
http://c4software.another-team.com/wm5.0/Downgrade/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
lol im not lazy i have read so many tutorials on to unlock to phone
Just to forewarn you, do not install the downgrade ROM until you bring your IPL/SPL down from 3.08 to 2.xx. If you don't you may end up like a lot of other people on here where you can't upgrade the IPL after you get done unlocking your phone and go to install WM6. To get it down, just go to your service providers website and download their official version of their ROM and install it first and that should bring your IPL/SPL down to a 2.xx version, then flash the downgrade ROM.
xeno1 said:
Just to forewarn you, do not install the downgrade ROM until you bring your IPL/SPL down from 3.08 to 2.xx. If you don't you may end up like a lot of other people on here where you can't upgrade the IPL after you get done unlocking your phone and go to install WM6. To get it down, just go to your service providers website and download their official version of their ROM and install it first and that should bring your IPL/SPL down to a 2.xx version, then flash the downgrade ROM.
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I did find one workaround that appears to almost always work is to have a minisd with a dumped raw image of a previous rom with ipl/spl included (r2d all command)...this was able to downgrade a phone on 3.08 back to 2.24 even after having gone to wm6. (it downgraded it back to wm5 at the same time)...conventional flashes were failing due to the ipl/spl.
ok thanks i will do that then i will unlock smart thinking
famewolf said:
I did find one workaround that appears to almost always work is to have a minisd with a dumped raw image of a previous rom with ipl/spl included (r2d all command)...this was able to downgrade a phone on 3.08 back to 2.24 even after having gone to wm6. (it downgraded it back to wm5 at the same time)...conventional flashes were failing due to the ipl/spl.
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Yeah, downgrading your IPL/SPL is easy, it's when you go from a 3.xx IPL/SPL straight to a 1.xx IPL/SPL that can cause problems, like your IPL sticking at 1.01 afterwards and not wanting to upgrade back to a higher IPL.
YA but i cant find a downgrade for my spl
In the future, don't send private messages to people who haven't contributed to this thread. If you can't figure out how to downgrade and/or unlock your phone after reading the many, many threads on how to do it, I suggest sticking with WM5.
Here, run this. It's an IPL/SPL version only. It won't affect anything you info or programs you have loaded on your phone right now, all it will do is lower you back down to an IPL/SPL of 2.26.
ya that made me ipl 2.26 not my spl
That's not normal, try running it again. I think I just put a file that will change it to 2.25 in another post that you started. If the 2.26 one doesn't work after running it again, try the 2.25 one and see if it works for you.
Just install a factory T-Mo or Cingular ROM
(Gotta locate 1 yourself)
You'll lose all your info but you wanted to flash another Rom anyway.
You gotta keep a factory Rom handy when things go wrong
cujo did you just buy an 8125 because you think it looks cool or do you actually understand the phone? It seems to me like you should be using a razr or something less complex than that...
So I have followed the guides, two of them conflicting each other (one tells me Wizard Love while other says Button)
So I pick wizard love because I did the factory update a few years back to 2.25
use loki3
run tmobile 2.26 and it fails
run the 3.08 and it works
try to install TNT roms... all get stuck at 99% except one but the rom doesn't work because I am still on windows 5.1
Now on my third attempt it gets stuck at bootloader. Can't get the phone to turn back on to normal mode just to use it and forget about trying these roms
Any ideas?
Got button to work some how
Now I am at IPL 1.01 and SPL 3.08
Hopefully I can redo everything and get 6.1 to work
It tells me my CID/SIM but no where does anyone tell me where I need to insert this ID code at.
ID code? What do you mean by that?
I ment CID, it was telling me the CID like if I needed to enter some sort of menu and run it
Running t-mobile rom again, hopefully this works
You sure that it wasnt asking for a SIM unlock code? OR was it giving you a "data crashes" message?
Nope neither of those.
Anyways
Tmobile screen pops up now with 2.26/2.26
In regards to installing new roms, do I just launch ROMUpdateUtility or Do I need to do a CID unlock again?
Also saw there is 3.08/3.08 available, Update before or after upgrading the wm6.1 rom?
Well, lemme ask you this, what is your device? Is it a G3 or a G4, if G3, then sure, update your IPL/SPL after you upgrade. If it is a G4 however, FOR THE LOVE OF TUNA DO NOT upgrade your IPL/SPL or you will have a brick on your hands. And also, if you have used HardSPL, then no, you do not have to CID unlock your device again. Personally, I just use the SoftSPL method each time I load a ROM. If your device is a G4, I have made a guide in the G4 section that should help you. Its got screenshots and such aswell.
G3
Yay somehow it worked this time, 6.1 is nice
I did softspl
3.08 worth it?
If you device is G3 - FORGET HARDSPL
You mention that you have IPL 1.xx and SPL 3.xx
get WST - Wizard Service Tool and follow the instructions to cid unlock you device, unfortunately you cannot unlock your SIM with the SPl that you have for now
After that flash a carrier ROm to align your IPL/SPL to 2.xx
Ohh it now displays 2.26 on both IPL/SPL
From what I read, 3.08 is mainly for the european radio brand in terms of what the focus on it was for
<---AT&T
Hopefully this will be my last month with this company, figured I try some things out before I put the phone away or give it away to a friend.
Ok, you have a G3 device
Get WST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
Install in your PC (XP not Vista), check the situation about your CID and SIM
If you have CID unlock = SUpercid you can flash any ROm you want, if not you must downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx (Button Rom)
WST Unlock only works with IPL/SPL 1.xx
Note that SIM can only be unlocked with your SPL as 1.xx
go on run, type msconfig and open that, close all microsoft services and install,
Ckamc said:
Ohh it now displays 2.26 on both IPL/SPL
From what I read, 3.08 is mainly for the european radio brand in terms of what the focus on it was for
<---AT&T
Hopefully this will be my last month with this company, figured I try some things out before I put the phone away or give it away to a friend.
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DUDE! I'm your friend you can give it to me
Or you could use tmobile with that phone (or any other company that uses sim chips for service) .
Once you have it completely unlocked (cid/sim) you can take it traveling to other countries and use their prepaid sim cards... This is an open phone. dont get rid of it.
on second thought, I will buy it from you if you dont see a reason why you would keep it. I could use a backup to test my cooking on PM me
HAHAHAHA
S.V.I said:
DUDE! I'm your friend you can give it to me
Or you could use tmobile with that phone (or any other company that uses sim chips for service) .
Once you have it completely unlocked (cid/sim) you can take it traveling to other countries and use their prepaid sim cards... This is an open phone. dont get rid of it.
on second thought, I will buy it from you if you dont see a reason why you would keep it. I could use a backup to test my cooking on PM me
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You know when an oportunittie comes huh!
I can buy it too but its more glad to see a wizard function well with 6.1
hope you can unlock and upgrade... if not... READ a lot.
Losing Mind (again)
OK, here we go.
First off, I am in no way new to Flashing or the logistics behind it. I am sure this is just something that I cant find by searching. But my problem is this.
I have a G3 TMOBILE USA MDA (Wizard). I have used the lokiwiz2 unlock software several times and according to the program I am SUPERCID unlocked. I am able to flash ROMS all day long. I get no error about loading. What is happening is that I almost always end up with the same default ROM after the FLASH is completed. I am now sitting with the Button ROM on the unit. I assume if the Button ROM loads, then I should be CID Unlocked otr it would not load (or is this my mistake in thinking?)
As my MDA sits now, I have the Beer Mug Displayed, IPL 1.05
SPL 2.26 GSM 01.12.10 OS 1.5.4.2
Now, if I go and try to Flash to one of the Two ROMS I want to go to
TMOUS_MDA_5.2.1629_Wing_Port_1.1 (Boring ROM) or I try with SNN 3.1 it will run the procedure perfectly, and I will end up with a Barebones version of Windows Mobile 5.0. This is wild.
Has anyone seen this happen and is laughing and going "Been there, here is the problem,,) or do I need to discuss this in more detail.
Im wondering if the ROM Upgrade Software is grabbing a ROM from elsewhere on my Hard Drive and is installing it from cache or something like that. Is there another version of the OS Upgrader that allows me to tell it exactly what ROM I want installed, instead of just installing whatever it wants.
Thanks for the help, after two days of searching and looking around, I can deal with amteur hour emabreesment, just HELP!!
My xv6800 and my 8125 was a breeze compared to this nitemare. (BTW, I also flashed this 2 years ago with the TMOBILE USA Official Release, no issue)
wyreless
Well,these are symptoms of CID not unlocked.Button's Rom flashed doesn't mean its CID unlocked,its a patched IPL/SPL rom simply to downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx for CID unlocking.
Simply,download WST_4.2.2 and run it to verify the CID lock/unlock status of the phone and do the right thing onwards.
Thank You Zabardast for the quick and to the point answer.
I was thinking in the back of my head it was a CID issue. It was just that everything seemed to be "moving right along". I sthere an easier or better Unlocking soiftware then lokwhiz for the Wizard Series, specifically my USA Tmobile MDA?
Well,if you have Button's Rom running successfully,so its IPL/SPL must be 1.xx already,there shudn't be any problem to use lokiwiz02b to CID unlock the phone,you can even use WST_4.2.2 tool also to easily CID unlock the phone.
There's no other method known to get CID unlocked a wizard freely,unless you are ready to pay to IMEI company to get a unlock code
hey alll..ok i screwed up
i downloaded Charecters ROM..i used WST and it showed that my device is G3 and its CID locked..well i just started the Flashing and it stuck at 99%
now it wont load any ROM and just as i came from school..its not evening starting..its not evening charging..please help any one
for one to flash a rom you must CID unlock it first...
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
.
.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
If you have any of the HARD SPL installed(3.56 from your words).
You can flash any ROM you want.
No need to CID unlock separately.
With Hard SPL, your Device is CID unlocked already.
Your pda doesn't not have hard spl installed on it
Crogon said:
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
.
.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
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I'm sorry to tell you that this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
Is not hard spl and if you pda has hard spl installed is will say this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
I received my replacement Tilt 4 days ago from At&t and it came with WM6.1 and spl 3.56.0000 and you are right I cant find anything to change that spl. I have tried to CID UNlock and I get the white screen, so I tried jump spl 1.56 and 1.93 and neither one of them worked. So now I'm stuck with this 3.56.0000, I sent Jocky a PM and He told me that he was looking in to it and that he will get back to me. So I have to wait. Or maybe someone will read this that has a fix for this issue and help us.
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
BerettaFreak said:
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
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Yes I did all that I'm very familar with the process this is my 5th tilt 2 of them the CID Unlock run just fine and the other 2 I that to run jump 1.56 to get pass the white screen. But for some reason I cant get anything to work on this tilt. I even try to install the OG WM6.0 to try to downgrade the spl but that did work either. Do you have any other suggestions?
IIRC for me to run the CID unlocker program I needed to flash the SPL first.
What is happening when you are trying to run the Jump SPL files? It's just not making sense.
You need to flash Hard SPL 3.29 BEFORE you try to run the unlocker, you can't do 3.56 then try to unlock it. Once its unlocked then flash it with hard 3.56 if you so desire.
Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
BerettaFreak said:
Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
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No what I'm trying to do is CID Unlock my phone but is not working I get the white screen. I have tried everything I know to get pass it. I'm not trying to install hard spl 3.29 or 3.56. I have to CID Unlock my phone first right? That is what I've always done before. I'm out of ideas.
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
BerettaFreak said:
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
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Thank you very much for all your help BerettaFreak you are the man!
Heeey! Did my thread get hijacked?
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
Crogon said:
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
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CID Unlocking is done by installing the Hard SPL, the Hard SPL's don't check the Carrier ID (CID) when flashing new ROM's.
Crogon said:
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
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SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Crogon said:
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
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Just follow all the steps in the Guide by mskip and post and problems you have there. Understanding is not a pre-requisite, with that guide, you can figure out what all the steps do later...
Simply put:
HardSPL / CID Unlock / Super CID - Allows ROM's and Radio's to be flashed.
SIM Unlock - Allows you to use a foriegn SIM card
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
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Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
Crogon said:
Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
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To Security Unlock, just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Then upgrade to HardSPL 3.56 again.
Security Unlocking is done by setting a flag in the NAND. It's permanent (unless you re-lock) and there are no comptability problems once it is set (you need to use a special Hard SPL to set it first though).
EDIT:
There is no list of known bad radio's - only the "Radio from Hell" 1.65.17.10 - but another Radio from hell could appear any day
Ta
Dave
Thanks for clearing that up Dave.
I think I'm going to opt to ignore the security unlock, since it sounds like it's on an 'as needed' basis.
I have 'batter fish to fry' at the moment. I'm grinding gears trying to figure out HOW to figure out which ROMs I should be looking into, in my other thread.
By the by guys, I was joking about the 'hijacked thread' thing, I'm sure somebody will find the info useful.
Just when i though I had this all figured out and was about to Flash my first ROM.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
P.S. On another note, I am using AT&T Tilt with shipped ROM running WM6 pro. I have about 40-50 programs installed on it. When first setting up my phone I did the soft reset which supposedly gets rid of the bloatware. Anyways, with all my programs and it being the stock ROM I still have 62MB free PROGRAM RAM. I do however only have like 30MB Storage RAM. But 62MB of free PROGRAM RAM. I see people with naked ROMS that only get like 55MB of free PROGRAM RAM, is my phone like magic or something? Just curious as to how this may be possible.
asofiker said:
Just when i though I had this all figured out.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
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There is a Hard SPL 1 by pof. Flash that first then follow Jocky's instructions.
Also the OliPro Security unlock isn't permenant, next time you flash a Radio it's gone.
Ta
Dave
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
asofiker said:
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
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Flashing a new SPL overrides the old one.
You said before you were happy with WM6.0, if so use either the pof Hard SPL v1 or the jockyw Hard SPL v1.1 (Part of the security unlock); if you are using WM6.1, use one of the jockyw or cmonex Hard SPL 3.**. Using the wrong version won't break your phone, but Windows will randomly freeze.
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Dave
Thanks again Dave for helpin me out and not tearing me a new one. But just one last question.
If I find a new ROM that I want to Flash and it uses WM6.1 then I have to make sure that I flash a HardSPL 3.xx before flashing that new ROM, is that what ur saying?