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Unlocked treo 750 for sale

Hey ladies an gents... I going to sell my treo 750 from cingular. it is unlocked and works with any sim card. I have tested it with a t-mobile and nextel sim card. I have the original box and all cables and included software, plam leather holster and palm care charger. It still has WM5 on it and I unlocked the phone using a remote unlock from GSMLIBERTY.com and not witht he hard SPL. I have never tried any cooked roms, or extended firmware. This phone is as it was when I purchased the device last june. Selling price is 175 o.b.o. and if you life in the warner robins geaorgia area, i'll even bring it to you.... Will take photos if required
Drop me a post if interested.
I'm doing this because i am buying an iPhone

jhowle said:
Hey ladies an gents... I going to sell my treo 750 from cingular. it is unlocked and works with any sim card. I have tested it with a t-mobile and nextel sim card. I have the original box and all cables and included software, plam leather holster and palm care charger. It still has WM5 on it and I unlocked the phone using a remote unlock from GSMLIBERTY.com and not witht he hard SPL. I have never tried any cooked roms, or extended firmware. This phone is as it was when I purchased the device last june. Selling price is 250 o.b.o. and if you life in the warner robins geaorgia area, i'll even bring it to you.... Will take photos if required
Drop me a post if interested.
I'm doing this because i am buying an iPhone
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My bid is 50. Any takers?

No offense, but what Treo have you loaded the WM6 OS on? I have seen more than one thread where you have upgraded it. Did you have two? If so, why are you selling just one for the iPhone?
Also, you can't really be serious about the iPhone. Have you even looked at the Tilt?? I was in your boat, with the Treo 750, wanting something more. I bought the Tilt and never looked back.

it is possible thati have more than one,,, i wasn't gonna screw around with my everyday user..lol this is the one i never messed with... besides, palm has no new phone planned for AT&T and im kinda tired of it.... once i get the iphone i won't have to goto numerous sites everyday hoping for some hot news about an update that isn't coming. lets face it, palms tech support sux and when you use the internet client to talk to them they use pre-typed statements that aare selected from topics. they click on it and it apears in the chat window... I shouldn't have to rely on some bogus software to make the phone do every other treo 750 now does. picking up my shiney new iphone thursday

jhowle said:
it is possible thati have more than one,,, i wasn't gonna screw around with my everyday user..lol this is the one i never messed with... besides, palm has no new phone planned for AT&T and im kinda tired of it.... once i get the iphone i won't have to goto numerous sites everyday hoping for some hot news about an update that isn't coming. lets face it, palms tech support sux and when you use the internet client to talk to them they use pre-typed statements that aare selected from topics. they click on it and it apears in the chat window... I shouldn't have to rely on some bogus software to make the phone do every other treo 750 now does. picking up my shiney new iphone thursday
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It "is" possible, but "very" unlikely. Especially after I found this old post of yours.........
From this point on he led into reasons why i should be using it with out it being released and such which is to be expected. He also stated that doing to much to the phone can possibly make the phone upgradable when the real WM6 update is released. This he mentioned were changing the boot loader, IPL and SPL software in the phone, that and using bogus releases of software. The reason being he said was that the soon to be released update probes the phone deeply because everything has been updated including the boot loader stuff.
Now i cant confirm or deny any truth to these statements but the only thing i had done with mine was a try a few new firmwares but after my conversation with them i quickly reverted back to WM5.
here is a link to get it if anyone is interested in doing the same. Download either or, they are the same. included is the cheeimg.nbh and the cheediag.nbh. the cheediag.nbh wont complete is you have othere that cingular WM5 on ur cingular treo 750.
http://rapidshare.com/files/17874512...ngular_ROM.zip
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http://rs61l32.rapidshare.com/files/...ngular_ROM.zip[/B][/I][/U]
Call me crazy, but I looked at "all" of your posts on 2 different forums (just a quick search), and not 1 mention of "phones" or "one of my phones". Get the iPhone, I'm sure you will be happier. Then try reading more and posting less. And good luck selling that Treo.
Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong. I'm not sure, but I think it's happened to me once before...................

Woohoo!!! No more inane posts by jhowle. Could it really be true.

I tried to call him out without actually accusing him, but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to tell he's lying. If anyone is actually considering buying his phone, think twice. It's been through a few reflashes for sure... If he can't be honest about that, what else could he be lying about?

alright,, i'm pissed Flapjack... What are we roomates now, or are you just stalking me,, You have no ****ing clue how many phones i have.. you can read between the lines all god damn day but still the truth remains. i have 2 750's, i have 2 phone numbers. One of them is the one i got with my contact and it untouched, the other I GOT OFF ****ING EBAY. it has my second number, and yes i have screwed around with the second one. it isn't the one i am selling so piss off.
I tried to be diplomatic before but i am getting personally attacked and really, i haven't even gotten any real help on here, even reading other posts. From what i see this is nothing but a place to slam people, and give them a hard time because it easy. I really have no business being here and i have contacted the webmaster on here so **** ya'll.. i have never ever had to deal with people like you ************s. Go **** yourself!!!!!!

An Internet tantrum. Awesome!
jhowle said:
alright,, Flapjackoff... What are we roomates now, or are you just stalking me,, You have no ****ing clue how many phones i have.. you can read between the lines all god damn day but still the truth remains. i have 2 750's, i have 2 phone numbers. One of them is the one i got with my contact and it untouched, the other I GOT OFF ****ING EBAY. it has my second number, and yes i have screwed around with the second one. it isn't the one i am selling so piss off.
I tried to be diplomatic before but i am getting personally attacked and really, i haven't even gotten any real help on here, even reading other posts. From what i see this is nothing but a place to slam people, and give them a hard time because it easy. I really have no business being here and i have contacted the webmaster on here so **** ya'll.. i have never ever had to deal with people like you ************s. Go **** yourself!!!!!!
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kodiakcb said:
Woohoo!!! No more inane posts by jhowle. Could it really be true.
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i don't suppose this is any more inane or meaningful

When you filed the complaint with the "webmaster", did you also mention your foul-mouthed tirade?
So you say you're a 12-year Air Force member? Apparently you don't understand what your duties as an Air Force member are.
...oh, and by the way, you are talking to an Air Force officer. You have a commitment to excellence that doesn't change whether you're on or off-duty. You might want to consider the things you say online, as they could affect your career. I personally could care less. But you never know when some Colonel looking for a replacement for his Blackberry might be a member of a message board you frequent. You may think you're some anonymous entity online, but I GUARANTEE you it would not be very hard for someone with the "know-how" to figure out who you are and file a complaint.
Think you can't get in trouble for the things you say/do online? Read this:
http://www.afrc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123056023
jhowle said:
alright,, Flapjackoff... What are we roomates now, or are you just stalking me,, You have no ****ing clue how many phones i have.. you can read between the lines all god damn day but still the truth remains. i have 2 750's, i have 2 phone numbers. One of them is the one i got with my contact and it untouched, the other I GOT OFF ****ING EBAY. it has my second number, and yes i have screwed around with the second one. it isn't the one i am selling so piss off.
I tried to be diplomatic before but i am getting personally attacked and really, i haven't even gotten any real help on here, even reading other posts. From what i see this is nothing but a place to slam people, and give them a hard time because it easy. I really have no business being here and i have contacted the webmaster on here so **** ya'll.. i have never ever had to deal with people like you ************s. Go **** yourself!!!!!!
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...oh, and after reading your posts here and on other forums, I can say with pretty much 100% accuracy that if you had two phones, you would've mentioned it. You've pretty much detailed every non-phone aspect of your life through your posts. Being as though your chatting on a "phone" forum, I can't believe you wouldn't talk about having an extra phone to experiment with....
And in regards to internet arguing:
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yeah i did,, and i even appologized for it... i didn't complain about the users.. i asked to be removed completely. I'm not staying on here anymore any getting bashed by people who don't even know me... and people i have no desire to get to know. Noone gave me a chance so so why should I.
have a nice day

jhowle said:
yeah i did,, and i even appologized for it... i didn't complain about the users.. i asked to be removed completely. I'm not staying on here anymore any getting bashed by people who don't even know me... and people i have no desire to get to know. Noone gave me a chance so so why should I.
have a nice day
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It sounds to me like you are taking things a bit too personally. When you came on an internet message board expecting people to be civil is where you went wrong. Personally, I wouldn't go somewhere I could get flamed for a comment without being able to tolerate getting flamed for a comment.
Couple that with the fact that you have NEVER mentioned having a second phone to play with and you have the perfect recipe for an INTERNET ARGUMENT.
As far as your inflammatory post where you reduced yourself to cursing, swearing, name calling, and other "unprofessional" acts, you took the conversation to a stage no one else here was at. So if you want to leave... leave. But no one here is asking you to go.

Flapjack said:
It sounds to me like you are taking things a bit too personally. When you came on an internet message board expecting people to be civil is where you went wrong. Personally, I wouldn't go somewhere I could get flamed for a comment without being able to tolerate getting flamed for a comment.
Couple that with the fact that you have NEVER mentioned having a second phone to play with and you have the perfect recipe for an INTERNET ARGUMENT.
As far as your inflammatory post where you reduced yourself to cursing, swearing, name calling, and other "unprofessional" acts, you took the conversation to a stage no one else here was at. So if you want to leave... leave. But no one here is asking you to go.
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I second the motion

well, this has been a roller coaster ride but i am happy to announce i purchased a blackberry curve today. So long gang, i won't be back frolic in the thorn bush. This place convinced me as well as palm tech support that these things aren't for me, and HURRAY, NO MORE INANE POSTS FROM ME.
Peace.

A Curve? What happened to the Iphone? Oh man you're a mess of contradiction aintcha.
So long old friend. See ya when you go HTC again..and you will. Besides, you like it here and you know it.
jhowle said:
well, this has been a roller coaster ride but i am happy to announce i purchased a blackberry curve today. So long gang, i won't be back frolic in the thorn bush. This place convinced me as well as palm tech support that these things aren't for me, and HURRAY, NO MORE INANE POSTS FROM ME.
Peace.
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summiter said:
A Curve? What happened to the Iphone? Oh man you're a mess of contradiction aintcha.
So long old friend. See ya when you go HTC again..and you will. Besides, you like it here and you know it.
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I have to agree. Now that I've gone PPC, I can never go back to the BB format. I don't know why everyone preaches about how good their "push" email is. It is just a fancy form of forwarding, and is many times more load intensive than Exchange Direct Push.
I run my own server, so I saw first-hand how the server being a BES trashed the server and the network. Not to mention, it's a whole 'nother program you have to install. EDP is already configured as part of Exchange. All you have to do is forward port 443 to the Exchange server, and BAM, it works. Not to mention, it's true synchronization.

summiter said:
So long old friend. See ya when you go HTC again..and you will. Besides, you like it here and you know it.
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...didn't he already come back twice after promising he will never be seen here again?
Y.

My Treo can beat up your Treo.

Touch: HD ~ $180, Pro ~ $120, Diamond ~ $108

*Mods please feel more than free to move this where you think might be more appropriate. I just wanted to make sure everyone at least had a chance to look at it and know about it, and knew that mostly only people who already had Diamonds would be in the Diamond forum.
*There is a link in my sig a post over at ppcgeeks. I will be keeping that one updated and current much more often. This is kind of just a general thing to look at, but that is where I will be keeping things updated and such simply because thats where I posted it first.*
PLEASE REFER TO THE POST OVER AT PPCGEEKS INSTEAD OF THIS ONE (link in my sig). IT IS MUCH MORE UP TO DATE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE AS SUCH. Feel free to post here if you perhaps dont have a membership at ppcgeeks (tho I would highly recommend becoming a member there if you are not). I am just leaving this one here for kicks.
"Ok, so this is my little post about how I am able to get phones for real cheap. It is not a lame scam or anything stupid like that. I hope that you can look at my name, how many times I have been thanked and where, and my little green reputation squares etc, and perhaps the posts that I have made in order to trust this a little better for your benefit. Vogue users should find this easier as they know a little more about me.
The moral of the story is:
I have discovered a really interesting way of obtaining phones and other like things (and I think this MAY be how a lot of people on eBay always have them so cheap, but I don't really know).
The prices I have quoted in the title are rough estimates. The cost could swing either way probably about $69. Hopefully, my prediction that these prices are a little on the high side is correct.
As time goes on, these (like anything else) will become cheaper. This also applies (I think, still researching) to my deal here. So if the Diamond soon drops $100 in price, it will also do so accordingly here (again, this concept I am still researching but should know for sure within a few days).
I am currently not sure how to handle all requests and..."orders" I guess you would put it. I don't think the forum system is really going to be that efficient, neither the PM system. Let me know if you have any suggestions.
Real problem: you are all going to think "this is too good to be true". And very understandably. I'm not sure how to get you folks to take a rational logical approach to this and think it through rather than shying away with the "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is", which, undoutbedly, some of you already have done :S. If I throw all the details at you right now, I really don't think youre going to believe it. I am trying to write this right now so that I would read on and be curious at the very least if it were me. And I am also aware that if I threw all the details out here, I would also not believe it myself.
The concept is affiliate marketing and referrals. If anyone reads this and knows what I am talking about, plz vouch for me or something. The odds are little to none of the people reading this will, but I figured it couldn't hurt to put down.
I know 100% that I can get ahold of all European (GSM) versions of each of these phones (which could of course unlocking them would be the idea), and I can start doing that now. Obviously I will not be getting ahold of a US CDMA HD soon as it will probably be a very long time till its made that way if ever (
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The CDMA US Diamond, on the other hand, I believe that I can get probably within a few weeks.
The CDMA US Pro, probably about two months (judging from the 10/19 release date, if it turns out to be 11/2 it will be accordingly later).
I MAY be able to get the CDMA US Diamond and Pro now just as with the GSM versions, but that is another issue that I am still currently researching. I will update this post accordingly with new information (hopefully I should know this specific piece within a few days).
I'm really not too sure what else to say. Please no flaming, I'm not trying to scam anybody or anything and yes it is for real. If you are going to be close/narrow minded and get pissed that I am claiming this and not even consider it, please do not post and move on over this thread as if you had never read it
If you think there might be a chance of truth here, shoot me a PM as that is the way that I will currently be handling this until I figure out a better system. Email will work more than fine as well, in fact that may be even better.
I know that this here will scare some people away, but it is part of the deal so I guess I had better just say it: To do this will cost you somewhere in between $5-$6, depending on tax. At 6.35%, that is about $5.31. This is not a cost I am charging and will receive, though the ~ $5.50 (lets say $5.50 to be pessimistic) may be able to be negotiated down.
If you have never heard of Netflix, or Blockbuster Online, please research them before contacting me or posting here.
Oh! Jeez I guess I had better add that this is not illegal.
Also, this can be done in Canada, the US, or the UK.
I was more than skeptical about this at first too, but am now a believer.
You are not buying the phones from me, so don't mistake me trying to give back to the community more as a chance to scam you all; I am not the one making the $$ here.
Ok so now I really can't think of anything else that needs to be said. Here goes posting this beast for the first time (probably gonna end up beating my flashing how to for vogue op in length!), hopefully no one goes getting crazy.
As I said previously, I'll update as I go (I'm sure I'll think of something in 10 min lol).
It is real, k? Its not free, its not a scam, and you are required to do a little bit of work. I will say that it is easy, and it does work.
lemme know,
Jim."

i sent you an pm...

hmmm very interesting!

jim256 said:
$5-$6, depending on tax. At 6.35%, that is about $5.31. This is not a cost I am charging and will receive, though the ~ $5.50 (lets say $5.50 to be pessimistic) may be able to be negotiated down.
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That is interesting. Not to be a retard or anything, but where does this money go? So if I read the whole article right, you're charging $5.50 to us so we can get the method of how to get these phones for cheap right?

PM You. lets see how fast things are gonna move.

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That is interesting. Not to be a retard or anything, but where does this money go? So if I read the whole article right, you're charging $5.50 to us so we can get the method of how to get these phones for cheap right?
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No, sorry if i wasnt clear enough. Please refer to the post over at ppcgeeks as it is more up to date and such. But the ~$5.50 does NOT go to me. It is (obviously) pretty complex. But I am not the recipient of the $5.50 (as you will see). (altho that would be nice )

Black93300ZX said:
...so instead of doing that we're supposed to blindly invest in something because we trust him?...
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lol NO. it surprises me that even here on xda and ppcgeeks how few ppl can actually read. you DO NOT PAY ME. YOU NEVER WILL. get it everyone? lol...jeez. answering questions is fine, but answering the same one 100x/day is a little lame.
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...when the first successful purchase comes through I'm game, but until then I need details.
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i like that, thats the attitude. just be patient, and then after a few people have vouched for it, contact me and lemme know!

I'm in. Sent you an email.

pyramid or "ponzi" scheme
If anything that has happened in the US has showed if it sounds too good to be true it probably isnt

Yea def man, I need to see a video. With actors that say they are not actors. Also these actors must say "this product works" "Im Giussepe Franco I dont own the company! I don't own anything about it!"

see.. i dunno, this sounds like some **** like AMWAY or a Pyramind scheme like the other member said.
$180 for a phone that is retailed at $900+ at the moment..
i dunno meng..and yea im a member over at ppcgeeks and the members over there are calling shannigans as well..
i need proof and substantial proof at that!

It's called MLM (multi-level marketing)... slightly different than a pyramid scheme but most people get screwed all the same. Put it this way... the first several people who paid the $5 (not the first people here at XDA, the first people who got on board with this particular program) will probably end up getting a phone for that price. Most will not.
Sorry Jim, you seem like a decent guy, and I hate to see YOU get screwed too. MLM is older than the day is long, and each "program" fizzles out long before MOST of the contributors get the product that they contributed for.
Stay away from this guys. You too Jim.

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I'm not saying we pay you, but we have to pay SOMEONE, and that's what I don't trust... Money leaving my possession without full details on where and why it's going there.
I'm a full out skeptic, but I'm not about to accuse you of running a scam until I hear bad things about it, so as I said, once a reputable member (not a user with 3 posts) posts on here that they got their Touch HD for $200, I'll be on that right away. I hope for everyone's sake this is true, as it'd turn out to be great... And if it is, thank you in advance for helping us.
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alrighty, now that is a much better approach. just to get this out there (and I suppose I had better update the OP on ppcgeeks as well), you dont ever pay out any money before you know whats going on. its not like you pay 6 then figure out what the heck is going on

4. be sure to become familiar with netflix and blockbuster [online].
Bah, hoops!

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If you have never heard of Netflix, or Blockbuster Online, please research them before contacting me or posting here.
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Why must we know that? How about you PM me with the details. I'd love to read the few very long posts.

I had a email from a very nice lady in Nigeria whose poor husband had been killed, he was a general in the army and very rich and all I had to do was give her my bank details so she could deposit his $10,000,000 into my account so she could gain access to it. All I had to do was let her have my secret password
and send her some money and for my help I got 10% for doing it.
Really its true, my balance has gone to zero but she said this is normal and my $1,000,000 should be in my account any day now.
So i dont need to join this scheme as I have plenty of money to by a Touch HD at full price but I am sure it will work just as well as my Nigerian deal has

Remove ads

Anyone know of a way to remove ads from applications without purchasing them?

I got this from one of the posts here on xda.

Worked pretty good man, thanks I appreciate it.

No problem, I just came across it in one of the threads here so I am not trying to take any credit here.

Put the hosts file in /system/etc

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Put the hosts file in /system/etc
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The zip file has a text file with instructions.

So why do ads in free software really bother people that much?
I mean TV Commercials really get to you that bad?

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So why do ads in free software really bother people that much?
I mean TV Commercials really get to you that bad?
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yes thats why i only watch dvr or hulu

It never ceases to amaze me how people expect others to spend time and money developing apps and products and then just give them away for nothing...........Would you go to work if they decided not to pay you?? So, why would you expect them to work for free?? The people who develop these apps know how cheap people are, so they get companies to pay them to advertise on their apps so we can get them for free.....if you don't like the ads, buy the app!

sdotcarlisle said:
yes thats why i only watch dvr or hulu
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DVR FTW!!!!

sdotcarlisle said:
yes thats why i only watch dvr or hulu
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Hulu has commercials! lol very short ones, but they do!
I just don't get why people comment in the market "Ads, uninstalled"
Do people not realize the ammount of time it takes to write an app? This **** aint simple.

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It never ceases to amaze me how people expect others to spend time and money developing apps and products and then just give them away for nothing...........Would you go to work if they decided not to pay you?? So, why would you expect them to work for free?? The people who develop these apps know how cheap people are, so they get companies to pay them to advertise on their apps so we can get them for free.....if you don't like the ads, buy the app!
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Sorry thought we were talking about commercials. I didnt read any posts above KC's. I concur buy the app if you dont want the adds.

I mind the ads less than I do the pompous people who complain about what I should do. This thread was clearly titled so if my blocking ads from MY phone on MY service bothers you so much just stay out of the thread. No reason to start an argument since the OP's question was answered already.
If you really wanted to debate this why not start your own thread? This would allow you to voice your oppinion and for others to avoid reading it. There are plenty of reasons to want to block ads, not just in apps. Is it really worse than running adblock in Firefox? If you take adblocking away from me just take the web away too. If I have to look at ads I would learn to live without the internet.

I bet your on a pirated copy of windows with other pirated software installed as well.
Why start another thread for it, I was just saying somebody might be trying to buy some groceries, and disabling them makes it that much harder to buy the appropriate stuff to do all this. I'm sure you're well aware computers ain't cheap, neither is the education.
I wasn't trying to start any thing, but peoples "give it to me free I don't want to work for it" attitude pisses me off. Especially if it is my work that went into it.
Damn my moral values and ethics, damn my hard working self.
An yeah, I think running Adblock in firefox is pretty bogus too, hosting is expensive crap especially if you have any kind of traffic volume. The ads support the website.
Is it just me or do you apparently not know how this stuff works?
I go to school and pay 60 grand to learn how to write software and want to make a few bucks off an ad click or two to help pay the loan off...hell maybe even buy another phone to dev from... but your too high and mighty to click on an ad link so a company throws me a penny (almost litterally) for something I GAVE you? Pretty cheap dude, I'd hate to see what you get your girl for her birthday.
I guess you really do deserve it free...I don't think your service pays for the dev...but what ever free is free right?
Free beer people, free beer.
OH and incase you don't get the free beer reference here you go, Ill give you this too so you don't have to do any work to figure out what thats about.
And to everyone else, sorry for the rant/thread high jack...well i guess thread reuse since this has been solved...I have a sore spot about this kind of stuff if you didn't notice.

To each his own, to you it is an insult for a person to feel like they have a right to determine how they use their property and the service they pay for. To me it is exactly what this community is about. I'm kinda surprised you have anything to do with the rooting/custom ROM community since the idea of using it the way it is given to me is not exactly what happens here. You also assume incorrectly about my piracy. Windows Vista came with my laptop, Windows XP came with my desktop. I think the majority of internet users would agree that ads ruin the web experience. It is my computer/phone and I pay for my service so if I want to block ads it is not up to someone else to put me down for it.
As for the apps, sure if you want an app and it costs money then by all means pay for it. For me I will buy apps that I deem worthy, however I am not interested in my network and GPS being used every time I open some app. The person who wrote the app is free to stop providing it ad supported but that does not give them the right to decide what traffic I allow over my phone and service. If I wanted someone else to be able to tell me what I can and can't do on my phone I would buy an iPhone.
BTW, I'm not trying to be a jerk here or make enemies or raise the hate even. I guess you take it a little more to heart how others choose to use their phones. For me, it is up to them. I do think it's kind of lame though to accuse someone of piracy just because they block ads.

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To each his own, to you it is an insult for a person to feel like they have a right to determine how they use their property and the service they pay for. To me it is exactly what this community is about. I'm kinda surprised you have anything to do with the rooting/custom ROM community since the idea of using it the way it is given to me is not exactly what happens here. You also assume incorrectly about my piracy. Windows Vista came with my laptop, Windows XP came with my desktop. I think the majority of internet users would agree that ads ruin the web experience. It is my computer/phone and I pay for my service so if I want to block ads it is not up to someone else to put me down for it.
As for the apps, sure if you want an app and it costs money then by all means pay for it. For me I will buy apps that I deem worthy, however I am not interested in my network and GPS being used every time I open some app. The person who wrote the app is free to stop providing it ad supported but that does not give them the right to decide what traffic I allow over my phone and service. If I wanted someone else to be able to tell me what I can and can't do on my phone I would buy an iPhone.
BTW, I'm not trying to be a jerk here or make enemies or raise the hate even. I guess you take it a little more to heart how others choose to use their phones. For me, it is up to them. I do think it's kind of lame though to accuse someone of piracy just because they block ads.
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Hey, I am all about making something better...its what I do. Hacking this stuff together and making it better than sprint could is top notch. But you aren't defacing the value of someones work here....like I said, your cell service doesn't pay the developer, the ads do. GPS location is a little extreme for any app that isn't geo-centric, but a little data never hurt anybody - expecially anybody with our plans.
Again, I as you, am not trying to get pissed at anyone, but advertising is the only way some companies survive, narrow margins are hell for anyone. Been there, done that.
And the acusation of piracy was stereo typical and short sighted, my appologies, I get heated - quick.

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T For me I will buy apps that I deem worthy, however I am not interested in my network and GPS being used every time I open some app. The person who wrote the app is free to stop providing it ad supported but that does not give them the right to decide what traffic I allow over my phone and service. If I wanted someone else to be able to tell me what I can and can't do on my phone I would buy an iPhone.
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You know...I was all set to jump all over you until I read the above. While I agree with KCarpenter that application developers should be paid for their work, I cannot disagree with what you said there...each time an ad-enabled application is opened it automatically opens a connected via your mobile network to an external site to load it. This does in fact mean that someone else is controlling what your phone does/doesn't connect to...
The only workaround I can see for it is to either not use ad-aware applications at all, or block the ads from being able to be run at all through a hosts file update. Unfortunately I can't see a way around it. Morally I'm stuck on two fronts. #1. I don't mind ads because they do support further development for some applications (the ones I like I purchase, ad problem goes away). BUT...#2. Having someone else force my phone to a site I didn't send my phone to grates on me.
In a perfect world, all apps would be donate-ware, or function limited until purchased. But this isn't a perfect world and there are way too many scum balls out there who would take someone else's work and freeload off of it. Hence the ads.
Bah. Moral dilemma. I hate moral dilemmas.

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I don't think the ads are so annoying yet that anything would really be worth the trouble of blocking. Rarely do I even notice the ad when I am in it. It's one of those things that you just tune out eventually. It's a shame but some of these apps that run on ads will access GPS to get your location, I am assuming because the ad company is catering ads to your general vicinity. IMO this is overboard on the ads and each time it starts the GPS it is in fact using my battery. The only reason my GPS should come on is if I want it to. This was the tipping point for me and why I started blocking them. The ads alone are not that big of a deal, but just because I am opening up some cheap game or rss reader or something doesn't mean that I should have to give up all my personal rights. They can show me an ad, but stop following me around. Well, that's just my take.
As for the developers of the apps, I love these guys. If I didn't appreciate their work I wouldn't have it on my phone. I have no problem helping them out, I'll feed a hungry wolf in the wild but I won't feed it by hand.

AdFree in the market works pretty well.

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Here is a Noob question for you. Is it possible to add an item to the stock SK4G dock bar? I want to add web in between apps and contacts cause I use it so much. I have searched the forums and can't come up with anything. Thanks.

Unfortunatly no :'( I tried doing it before and got tired of trying to figure out how to do it so I just got launcher pro than the cracked version of launcher pro plus xD
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Unfortunatly no :'( I tried doing it before and got tired of trying to figure out how to do it so I just got launcher pro than the cracked version of launcher pro plus xD
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shame on you. the developers work hard on those apps. you are one of many reasons why I wont develop apps cause it will just end up on some torrent or pirate site so cheap bastards such as your self can steal it.
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I know that developer and that is the reason hes not updating his launcher to work with ICS. Hes sick of his work being stolen from him.
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shame on you. the developers work hard on those apps. you are one of many reasons why I wont develop apps cause it will just end up on some torrent or pirate site so cheap bastards such as your self can steal it.
I know that developer and that is the reason hes not updating his launcher to work with ICS. Hes sick of his work being stolen from him.
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yeah thats poopy, but its the way of the world. people shouldnt do things they love for the hope of money, and if they dont love doing it they shouldnt do it at all.

i agree that the developer should be supported, but, if you like me and cant even afford a 1$ app, using their app and telling people how great it is is the next best thing.

Thanks for the heads up. Its a shame it can't be done but I guess that's what ROMS are for. Maybe Reactive Disorder will see this and kung fu it into one of his. I've been looking at his work and I swear he is half computer with the stuff he does. But anyway I don't agree with swiping peoples work. If they put it out there for free or just want donations then its fine to get it, otherwise PAY THEM FOR THEIR WORK! I am a chef and a musician. I HATE when people rip me off and can't tolerate seing it done to someone else. Nothing worse than spending days/weeks poring everything into something just to have someone else come in and snatch it without even a thought about what you went through. At least in my circles if you get ahold of my recipes or sheet music I can come and punch you in the face when I catch you.
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Thanks for the heads up. Its a shame it can't be done but I guess that's what ROMS are for. Maybe Reactive Disorder will see this and kung fu it into one of his. I've been looking at his work and I swear he is half computer with the stuff he does. But anyway I don't agree with swiping peoples work. If they put it out there for free or just want donations then its fine to get it, otherwise PAY THEM FOR THEIR WORK! I am a chef and a musician. I HATE when people rip me off and can't tolerate seing it done to someone else. Nothing worse than spending days/weeks poring everything into something just to have someone else come in and snatch it without even a thought about what you went through. At least in my circles if you get ahold of my recipes or sheet music I can come and punch you in the face when I catch you.
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i agree to a degree, but honestly if that person cant afford your music and there was no way to get it free, you wouldnt have gotten that money anyway.

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i agree to a degree, but honestly if that person cant afford your music and there was no way to get it free, you wouldnt have gotten that money anyway.
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I can see where your coming from but its a little different in the music world. At my shows there is the expensive seats up front, cheap seats in the back and free out in the field. I am not saying that I am after everyone's money just give me credit for my work. I have had people steal my sheet music and claim it as their own before. That doesn't mean I won't make money at all but I put a lot of work into that and to have someone else say they did it is what pissed me off. He could have had it if he just asked but that was weeks of my time lost and I have nothing to show for it. When it comes to apps I agree that there should be a free trial for all of them, but if its not and you can only get it by paying then if you want it bad enough you will buy it. If making apps was my only source of income and someone leaked it and everyone gets it for free without at least donating then I would starve. That's what gets me so riled up.

It's like every thread on here, ReActive butts in and it goes way off-topic (or he just insults someone for posting about a dream), but I can't stay away from this one as it speaks to the core of my principals.
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He could have had it if he just asked but that was weeks of my time lost and I have nothing to show for it.
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...so how does that change if he asked? What do you have to show for it then that you lost by him not asking? Even if he doesn't ask, you can still say: Hey, I made that, and people are benefiting from it. Isn't that why you create art, so people can enjoy it? Does it really matter if they know who the artist is or not (if you are not trying to make money off it)?
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If making apps was my only source of income and someone leaked it and everyone gets it for free without at least donating then I would starve. That's what gets me so riled up.
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Back to money again. Money is a false construct and has nothing to do with art, skill, or creativity. If your only source of income is payment from individuals for something you can copy and reproduce without costing you any money or time, then you are in the wrong business. If I can't hold it in my hand, it is not a commodity, it is simply knowledge/information/directions/instructions. All of those things should be free to the entire globe.
If I can see it, if I can hear it, if I can learn how to build it... then I have an undeniable human right to record it, copy it, modify it, and redistributed it to anyone and everyone. Not sharing your recipes/sheet-music with who ever is interested (for free) is a crime to my sense of morality/values. It is all just information, and the collection of all the worlds information should be freely available to every human on the planet.
"If I give you a pfennig, you will be one pfennig richer and I'll be one pfennif poorer. But if I give you an idea, you will have a new idea, but I shall still have it too" - Albert Einstein

You can't "build" it, pal.
Stealing my software (or anybody else's) is a crime.
Furthermore, it's not about the love and it's not about the people; it's about the money.
Anytime you publish any kind of IP, you know that there will be theft, but that doesn't mean I have to like it--or endorse it.
Furthermore, this site forbids piracy and if you go around proudly saying otherwise, you will proudly join Jin out there in the wild blue yonder.
If you can "build" all this great software, just make your own. No need to steal it if it's so trivial and easy for you.

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Stealing my software (or anybody else's) is a crime.
Anytime you publish any kind of IP, you know that there will be theft, but that doesn't mean I have to like it--or endorse it.
If you can "build" all this great software, just make your own. No need to steal it if it's so trivial and easy for you.
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I had a huge event to get ready for so getting back into the forums here to post has been challenging. Thank you Orange808. I was upset I couldn't get on to tell the other guy about how stealing from me hurt me, but you got to them first. I say that at the end of the day, no mater how you try to justify it, if you take something that's not yours without going through the proper channels you are a thief. I don't care what kind of Robin Hood complex you have, if you didn't compensate or do whatever else is asked of you to obtain the product, and even ideas can be products, you stole it. I am not ok with that at all. If you are ok with being a thief that's your problem, don't try to make me thank you for it. But with that all said we are way off topic. I started this thread to ask a question. It has been answered. I don't know how to close a thread on this forum, but it needs to be closed. If you want to argue about morality, START YOUR OWN THREAD! Please stop doing it on mine. Thank you.
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Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).

rpmccormick said:
Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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I don't have the time/patience to look up and post all of the links , but go to wikipedia and look up Intellectual property and you will see that it is protected and treated as real property with all of the same rights. That means that taking someones music, app, program or any other IP without their permission is still theft. Don't believe me ask a lawyer. As I said before. The original topic this thread was started for has been answered and this thread is closed. Start your own thread if you really want to hash this one out.
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rpmccormick said:
Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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jeez, cmon. just because you arnt physically taking it away doesnt mean you didnt steal it, i steal. i can admit that, no im not proud of it but i cant afford any of it anyway. but having your moral compass pointed so far south like that is just wrong.

rpmccormick said:
Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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I did stay away for a while. Not trolling. Will stay away again... but I saw this today and felt I had to picture-post back to ReActive. Many other people share my morals. To us, "having your moral compass pointed so far [north] like that is just wrong."
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I did stay away for a while. Not trolling. Will stay away again... but I saw this today and felt I had to picture-post back to ReActive. Many other people share my morals. To us, "having your moral compass pointed so far [north] like that is just wrong."
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LG Never Again!!.... wait...

I'm sure most people here have used that phrase before at least once in a comment or talking to someone. It's the feeling of us g2x owners that bought the device with high expectations because it was arguably the best Android phone at the time, and because it has a "with Google" branding on the back. But the lack of support from LG left us with a bad feeling towards the company that is hard to look past it.
But, all of the sudden, a bright spot appeared this week when LG released the source of ICS for the SCU660 and ICS and JellyBean are possible once again. On top of that, today Google announced what's arguably the best smartphone right now (not only android), the Nexus 4, and this time with the nexus brand it will not get left behind in the software department.
So, it looks like I'm willing to give LG another chance with this new device despite the history with the g2x. And when the new roms (g2x) start appearing in the development section, I'll sure be flashing them.
What do you think about LG, are you giving them a chance too?
Here's the link to the Nexus 4:
Nexus 4 on Google Play

Please stop creating such threads like these, search forums this has been discussed before.

Vago023 said:
I'm sure most people here have used that phrase before at least once in a comment or talking to someone. It's the feeling of us g2x owners that bought the device with high expectations because it was arguably the best Android phone at the time, and because it has a "with Google" branding on the back. But the lack of support from LG left us with a bad feeling towards the company that is hard to look past it.
But, all of the sudden, a bright spot appeared this week when LG released the source of ICS for the SCU660 and ICS and JellyBean are possible once again. On top of that, today Google announced what's arguably the best smartphone right now (not only android), the Nexus 4, and this time with the nexus brand it will not get left behind in the software department.
So, it looks like I'm willing to give LG another chance with this new device despite the history with the g2x. And when the new roms (g2x) start appearing in the development section, I'll sure be flashing them.
What do you think about LG, are you giving them a chance too?
Here's the link to the Nexus 4:
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Do you understand what the word never means homie? If you were a battered wife, and your husband was like Hey, I'll treat you betta baby. Are you gonna be that idiot who sticks with 'em cuz you got a baby on the way?
No. You distance yourself as much as possible and try to raise the kid right. Away from bad influences, like LG. LG gon' beat yo kids, homie.

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kiddecks said:
Do you understand what the word never means homie? If you were a battered wife, and your husband was like Hey, I'll treat you betta baby. Are you gonna be that idiot who sticks with 'em cuz you got a baby on the way?
No. You distance yourself as much as possible and try to raise the kid right. Away from bad influences, like LG. LG gon' beat yo kids, homie.
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Except that in real life a lot if women stay with their abusive partners...
In my case, I've had a good track record with LG (two dumb phones followed by two smartphones), then the G2x. My next phone was going to be the Galaxy Nexus, but that's been replaced by the Nexus 4 and for the same price so looks like LG has me for my sixth phone in a row. After my contract is up in July, though, I'm still considering Windows Phone 8 or I'll just use the Nexus on a prepaid T-Mobile plan.
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That was the funnest thing I saw all day. Thank :thumbup:
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Im just going to start replying to these kind of threads by this:
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Whatever.. I just wanted to communicate with you guys here. Now I know it's just a waste of time. I'm glad I'm getting the Nexus and I won't need to be here as much.

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Whatever.. I just wanted to communicate with you guys here. Now I know it's just a waste of time. I'm glad I'm getting the Nexus and I won't need to be here as much.
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With that attitude ...we will too.
All set aside, you could've communicated in one of the MANY "i hate LG " threads. There seems to be an abundance these days, but that's one thing users tend to hate around here, multiple threads on the same topic or content.
Now that being said, the other guys were just giving you a hard time. So wasn't i, my pic was more for their humor,not to directly insult you.
So you can get a huffy over a couple post giving you a hard time for something thats clearly stated in the rules and run away, or kick back,shoot the ****, laugh a lil, and you may just find there is some cool stuff and a lil life left in our G2x.
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Do you understand what the word never means homie? If you were a battered wife, and your husband was like Hey, I'll treat you betta baby. Are you gonna be that idiot who sticks with 'em cuz you got a baby on the way?
No. You distance yourself as much as possible and try to raise the kid right. Away from bad influences, like LG. LG gon' beat yo kids, homie.
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Hide yo kids, hide yo wife?

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And how EXACTLY is he a Noob?
justjackyl said:
With that attitude ...we will too.
All set aside, you could've communicated in one of the MANY "i hate LG " threads.
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Instead of making this into a flame the OP thread, maybe you should stop and read it. At first glance it did look it was one of those, then I actually read and noticed that, if anything, it was about the next nexus phone and whether or not, despite the 'LG never again' bit some throw around, people from this forum will take an interest and perhaps buy it.
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Whatever.. I just wanted to communicate with you guys here. Now I know it's just a waste of time. I'm glad I'm getting the Nexus and I won't need to be here as much.
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Good luck, maybe they won't have the elitism which this forum tends to have.

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Whatever.. I just wanted to communicate with you guys here. Now I know it's just a waste of time. I'm glad I'm getting the Nexus and I won't need to be here as much.
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I hear ya. Definitely seen friendlier devices sections of this forum. I think it's just people are so unhappy with going a year and no ICS source that they take it out on others.
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Волк said:
And how EXACTLY is he a Noob?
ITS A FREAKIN JOKE LOL
Instead of making this into a flame the OP thread, maybe you should stop and read it. At first glance it did look it was one of those, then I actually read and noticed that, if anything, it was about the next nexus phone and whether or not, despite the 'LG never again' bit some throw around, people from this forum will take an interest and perhaps buy it.
And both have been and are disscussed in other threads. Which, is what the center of of the negativity.
Good luck, maybe they won't have the elitism which this forum tends to have.
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People in our forum may have gone just a bit over the top with all the excitement of a future for our G2X's... They don't read threads carefully anymore and just want to go all out on people. I don't see anything wrong with this thread.. He's just giving us his opinion on LG.

Yuvin said:
People in our forum may have gone just a bit over the top with all the excitement of a future for our G2X's... They don't read threads carefully anymore and just want to go all out on people. I don't see anything wrong with this thread.. He's just giving us his opinion on LG.
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Agree completely, some people are just bitter. If you don't like lg sell your phone and get something else. Don't worry about someone else that has changed their opinion. I don't like how the g2x turned out and just like the op I told myself I wouldn't buy lg again, but the nexus 4 and it's specs look pretty good. I'm not going to pick it up right away, but I'm going to wait a few months and see how development goes. The nexus line has always been awesome for development and often the first to get new release of android.
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I'll buy another LG once they officially release and support ICS on this phone like they should have a LOOONG time ago. Alternately if they come out and publicly acknowledged they completely, knowingly, willfully F'ed G2X buyers and offer us free Nexus 4's or other phone running ICS/JB with specs similar to or better than the G2x to make up for the lost money and many, many hours of wasted infuriating frustration.
I have a feeing the source drop and the SU660 ICS release may have been done under pressure from Google given the current LG/Nexus partnership, and while it's very welcome, it's also just about the smallest, minimal gesture that would actually still help heal the gigantic bloody insult LG has perpetrated on those who tried to support them by buying their new untested flagship phone at launch!!
T-Mobile/LG all but stole $500 from me when they sold me this deeply flawed phone. I don't forgive such theft because of a fancy new product or some dramatically late, minimal source code.
Maybe, maybe in a few years if they earn a stellar reputation of supporting their phones after purchase and keeping them updated with the latest Android I'll reconsider. But unless the Nexus partnership really changes LG's development dramatically I will not expect that to happen.

People, be nice to each other. Have some tolerance, it is better simply to not add to the fired when one or two already started going offtopic or being offensive to the OP, think about the bandwidth! :good:

Ppl, just follow the
"it's better to keep your mouth shut if you have nothing good to say" rule.
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OP has misunderstood reality, thinking somehow that LG releasing ICS for su660 is then doing him a favor.
Anything we get is purely and only due to RC and CM. LG still sucks BIG TIME. T-mo also sucks unfortunately.
Nice hardware with Google support is tempting, but LG hasn't changed, so screw them.
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i like my rule better...if you don't have anything nice to say about someone, come sit next to me! LMAO