Here is a Noob question for you. Is it possible to add an item to the stock SK4G dock bar? I want to add web in between apps and contacts cause I use it so much. I have searched the forums and can't come up with anything. Thanks.
Unfortunatly no :'( I tried doing it before and got tired of trying to figure out how to do it so I just got launcher pro than the cracked version of launcher pro plus xD
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Unfortunatly no :'( I tried doing it before and got tired of trying to figure out how to do it so I just got launcher pro than the cracked version of launcher pro plus xD
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shame on you. the developers work hard on those apps. you are one of many reasons why I wont develop apps cause it will just end up on some torrent or pirate site so cheap bastards such as your self can steal it.
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I know that developer and that is the reason hes not updating his launcher to work with ICS. Hes sick of his work being stolen from him.
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shame on you. the developers work hard on those apps. you are one of many reasons why I wont develop apps cause it will just end up on some torrent or pirate site so cheap bastards such as your self can steal it.
I know that developer and that is the reason hes not updating his launcher to work with ICS. Hes sick of his work being stolen from him.
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yeah thats poopy, but its the way of the world. people shouldnt do things they love for the hope of money, and if they dont love doing it they shouldnt do it at all.
i agree that the developer should be supported, but, if you like me and cant even afford a 1$ app, using their app and telling people how great it is is the next best thing.
Thanks for the heads up. Its a shame it can't be done but I guess that's what ROMS are for. Maybe Reactive Disorder will see this and kung fu it into one of his. I've been looking at his work and I swear he is half computer with the stuff he does. But anyway I don't agree with swiping peoples work. If they put it out there for free or just want donations then its fine to get it, otherwise PAY THEM FOR THEIR WORK! I am a chef and a musician. I HATE when people rip me off and can't tolerate seing it done to someone else. Nothing worse than spending days/weeks poring everything into something just to have someone else come in and snatch it without even a thought about what you went through. At least in my circles if you get ahold of my recipes or sheet music I can come and punch you in the face when I catch you.
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Thanks for the heads up. Its a shame it can't be done but I guess that's what ROMS are for. Maybe Reactive Disorder will see this and kung fu it into one of his. I've been looking at his work and I swear he is half computer with the stuff he does. But anyway I don't agree with swiping peoples work. If they put it out there for free or just want donations then its fine to get it, otherwise PAY THEM FOR THEIR WORK! I am a chef and a musician. I HATE when people rip me off and can't tolerate seing it done to someone else. Nothing worse than spending days/weeks poring everything into something just to have someone else come in and snatch it without even a thought about what you went through. At least in my circles if you get ahold of my recipes or sheet music I can come and punch you in the face when I catch you.
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i agree to a degree, but honestly if that person cant afford your music and there was no way to get it free, you wouldnt have gotten that money anyway.
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i agree to a degree, but honestly if that person cant afford your music and there was no way to get it free, you wouldnt have gotten that money anyway.
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I can see where your coming from but its a little different in the music world. At my shows there is the expensive seats up front, cheap seats in the back and free out in the field. I am not saying that I am after everyone's money just give me credit for my work. I have had people steal my sheet music and claim it as their own before. That doesn't mean I won't make money at all but I put a lot of work into that and to have someone else say they did it is what pissed me off. He could have had it if he just asked but that was weeks of my time lost and I have nothing to show for it. When it comes to apps I agree that there should be a free trial for all of them, but if its not and you can only get it by paying then if you want it bad enough you will buy it. If making apps was my only source of income and someone leaked it and everyone gets it for free without at least donating then I would starve. That's what gets me so riled up.
It's like every thread on here, ReActive butts in and it goes way off-topic (or he just insults someone for posting about a dream), but I can't stay away from this one as it speaks to the core of my principals.
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He could have had it if he just asked but that was weeks of my time lost and I have nothing to show for it.
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...so how does that change if he asked? What do you have to show for it then that you lost by him not asking? Even if he doesn't ask, you can still say: Hey, I made that, and people are benefiting from it. Isn't that why you create art, so people can enjoy it? Does it really matter if they know who the artist is or not (if you are not trying to make money off it)?
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If making apps was my only source of income and someone leaked it and everyone gets it for free without at least donating then I would starve. That's what gets me so riled up.
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Back to money again. Money is a false construct and has nothing to do with art, skill, or creativity. If your only source of income is payment from individuals for something you can copy and reproduce without costing you any money or time, then you are in the wrong business. If I can't hold it in my hand, it is not a commodity, it is simply knowledge/information/directions/instructions. All of those things should be free to the entire globe.
If I can see it, if I can hear it, if I can learn how to build it... then I have an undeniable human right to record it, copy it, modify it, and redistributed it to anyone and everyone. Not sharing your recipes/sheet-music with who ever is interested (for free) is a crime to my sense of morality/values. It is all just information, and the collection of all the worlds information should be freely available to every human on the planet.
"If I give you a pfennig, you will be one pfennig richer and I'll be one pfennif poorer. But if I give you an idea, you will have a new idea, but I shall still have it too" - Albert Einstein
You can't "build" it, pal.
Stealing my software (or anybody else's) is a crime.
Furthermore, it's not about the love and it's not about the people; it's about the money.
Anytime you publish any kind of IP, you know that there will be theft, but that doesn't mean I have to like it--or endorse it.
Furthermore, this site forbids piracy and if you go around proudly saying otherwise, you will proudly join Jin out there in the wild blue yonder.
If you can "build" all this great software, just make your own. No need to steal it if it's so trivial and easy for you.
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Stealing my software (or anybody else's) is a crime.
Anytime you publish any kind of IP, you know that there will be theft, but that doesn't mean I have to like it--or endorse it.
If you can "build" all this great software, just make your own. No need to steal it if it's so trivial and easy for you.
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I had a huge event to get ready for so getting back into the forums here to post has been challenging. Thank you Orange808. I was upset I couldn't get on to tell the other guy about how stealing from me hurt me, but you got to them first. I say that at the end of the day, no mater how you try to justify it, if you take something that's not yours without going through the proper channels you are a thief. I don't care what kind of Robin Hood complex you have, if you didn't compensate or do whatever else is asked of you to obtain the product, and even ideas can be products, you stole it. I am not ok with that at all. If you are ok with being a thief that's your problem, don't try to make me thank you for it. But with that all said we are way off topic. I started this thread to ask a question. It has been answered. I don't know how to close a thread on this forum, but it needs to be closed. If you want to argue about morality, START YOUR OWN THREAD! Please stop doing it on mine. Thank you.
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Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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I don't have the time/patience to look up and post all of the links , but go to wikipedia and look up Intellectual property and you will see that it is protected and treated as real property with all of the same rights. That means that taking someones music, app, program or any other IP without their permission is still theft. Don't believe me ask a lawyer. As I said before. The original topic this thread was started for has been answered and this thread is closed. Start your own thread if you really want to hash this one out.
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Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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jeez, cmon. just because you arnt physically taking it away doesnt mean you didnt steal it, i steal. i can admit that, no im not proud of it but i cant afford any of it anyway. but having your moral compass pointed so far south like that is just wrong.
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Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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I did stay away for a while. Not trolling. Will stay away again... but I saw this today and felt I had to picture-post back to ReActive. Many other people share my morals. To us, "having your moral compass pointed so far [north] like that is just wrong."
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I did stay away for a while. Not trolling. Will stay away again... but I saw this today and felt I had to picture-post back to ReActive. Many other people share my morals. To us, "having your moral compass pointed so far [north] like that is just wrong."
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*Mods please feel more than free to move this where you think might be more appropriate. I just wanted to make sure everyone at least had a chance to look at it and know about it, and knew that mostly only people who already had Diamonds would be in the Diamond forum.
*There is a link in my sig a post over at ppcgeeks. I will be keeping that one updated and current much more often. This is kind of just a general thing to look at, but that is where I will be keeping things updated and such simply because thats where I posted it first.*
PLEASE REFER TO THE POST OVER AT PPCGEEKS INSTEAD OF THIS ONE (link in my sig). IT IS MUCH MORE UP TO DATE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE AS SUCH. Feel free to post here if you perhaps dont have a membership at ppcgeeks (tho I would highly recommend becoming a member there if you are not). I am just leaving this one here for kicks.
"Ok, so this is my little post about how I am able to get phones for real cheap. It is not a lame scam or anything stupid like that. I hope that you can look at my name, how many times I have been thanked and where, and my little green reputation squares etc, and perhaps the posts that I have made in order to trust this a little better for your benefit. Vogue users should find this easier as they know a little more about me.
The moral of the story is:
I have discovered a really interesting way of obtaining phones and other like things (and I think this MAY be how a lot of people on eBay always have them so cheap, but I don't really know).
The prices I have quoted in the title are rough estimates. The cost could swing either way probably about $69. Hopefully, my prediction that these prices are a little on the high side is correct.
As time goes on, these (like anything else) will become cheaper. This also applies (I think, still researching) to my deal here. So if the Diamond soon drops $100 in price, it will also do so accordingly here (again, this concept I am still researching but should know for sure within a few days).
I am currently not sure how to handle all requests and..."orders" I guess you would put it. I don't think the forum system is really going to be that efficient, neither the PM system. Let me know if you have any suggestions.
Real problem: you are all going to think "this is too good to be true". And very understandably. I'm not sure how to get you folks to take a rational logical approach to this and think it through rather than shying away with the "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is", which, undoutbedly, some of you already have done :S. If I throw all the details at you right now, I really don't think youre going to believe it. I am trying to write this right now so that I would read on and be curious at the very least if it were me. And I am also aware that if I threw all the details out here, I would also not believe it myself.
The concept is affiliate marketing and referrals. If anyone reads this and knows what I am talking about, plz vouch for me or something. The odds are little to none of the people reading this will, but I figured it couldn't hurt to put down.
I know 100% that I can get ahold of all European (GSM) versions of each of these phones (which could of course unlocking them would be the idea), and I can start doing that now. Obviously I will not be getting ahold of a US CDMA HD soon as it will probably be a very long time till its made that way if ever (
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The CDMA US Diamond, on the other hand, I believe that I can get probably within a few weeks.
The CDMA US Pro, probably about two months (judging from the 10/19 release date, if it turns out to be 11/2 it will be accordingly later).
I MAY be able to get the CDMA US Diamond and Pro now just as with the GSM versions, but that is another issue that I am still currently researching. I will update this post accordingly with new information (hopefully I should know this specific piece within a few days).
I'm really not too sure what else to say. Please no flaming, I'm not trying to scam anybody or anything and yes it is for real. If you are going to be close/narrow minded and get pissed that I am claiming this and not even consider it, please do not post and move on over this thread as if you had never read it
If you think there might be a chance of truth here, shoot me a PM as that is the way that I will currently be handling this until I figure out a better system. Email will work more than fine as well, in fact that may be even better.
I know that this here will scare some people away, but it is part of the deal so I guess I had better just say it: To do this will cost you somewhere in between $5-$6, depending on tax. At 6.35%, that is about $5.31. This is not a cost I am charging and will receive, though the ~ $5.50 (lets say $5.50 to be pessimistic) may be able to be negotiated down.
If you have never heard of Netflix, or Blockbuster Online, please research them before contacting me or posting here.
Oh! Jeez I guess I had better add that this is not illegal.
Also, this can be done in Canada, the US, or the UK.
I was more than skeptical about this at first too, but am now a believer.
You are not buying the phones from me, so don't mistake me trying to give back to the community more as a chance to scam you all; I am not the one making the $$ here.
Ok so now I really can't think of anything else that needs to be said. Here goes posting this beast for the first time (probably gonna end up beating my flashing how to for vogue op in length!), hopefully no one goes getting crazy.
As I said previously, I'll update as I go (I'm sure I'll think of something in 10 min lol).
It is real, k? Its not free, its not a scam, and you are required to do a little bit of work. I will say that it is easy, and it does work.
lemme know,
Jim."
i sent you an pm...
hmmm very interesting!
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$5-$6, depending on tax. At 6.35%, that is about $5.31. This is not a cost I am charging and will receive, though the ~ $5.50 (lets say $5.50 to be pessimistic) may be able to be negotiated down.
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That is interesting. Not to be a retard or anything, but where does this money go? So if I read the whole article right, you're charging $5.50 to us so we can get the method of how to get these phones for cheap right?
PM You. lets see how fast things are gonna move.
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That is interesting. Not to be a retard or anything, but where does this money go? So if I read the whole article right, you're charging $5.50 to us so we can get the method of how to get these phones for cheap right?
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No, sorry if i wasnt clear enough. Please refer to the post over at ppcgeeks as it is more up to date and such. But the ~$5.50 does NOT go to me. It is (obviously) pretty complex. But I am not the recipient of the $5.50 (as you will see). (altho that would be nice )
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...so instead of doing that we're supposed to blindly invest in something because we trust him?...
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lol NO. it surprises me that even here on xda and ppcgeeks how few ppl can actually read. you DO NOT PAY ME. YOU NEVER WILL. get it everyone? lol...jeez. answering questions is fine, but answering the same one 100x/day is a little lame.
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...when the first successful purchase comes through I'm game, but until then I need details.
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i like that, thats the attitude. just be patient, and then after a few people have vouched for it, contact me and lemme know!
I'm in. Sent you an email.
pyramid or "ponzi" scheme
If anything that has happened in the US has showed if it sounds too good to be true it probably isnt
Yea def man, I need to see a video. With actors that say they are not actors. Also these actors must say "this product works" "Im Giussepe Franco I dont own the company! I don't own anything about it!"
see.. i dunno, this sounds like some **** like AMWAY or a Pyramind scheme like the other member said.
$180 for a phone that is retailed at $900+ at the moment..
i dunno meng..and yea im a member over at ppcgeeks and the members over there are calling shannigans as well..
i need proof and substantial proof at that!
It's called MLM (multi-level marketing)... slightly different than a pyramid scheme but most people get screwed all the same. Put it this way... the first several people who paid the $5 (not the first people here at XDA, the first people who got on board with this particular program) will probably end up getting a phone for that price. Most will not.
Sorry Jim, you seem like a decent guy, and I hate to see YOU get screwed too. MLM is older than the day is long, and each "program" fizzles out long before MOST of the contributors get the product that they contributed for.
Stay away from this guys. You too Jim.
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I'm not saying we pay you, but we have to pay SOMEONE, and that's what I don't trust... Money leaving my possession without full details on where and why it's going there.
I'm a full out skeptic, but I'm not about to accuse you of running a scam until I hear bad things about it, so as I said, once a reputable member (not a user with 3 posts) posts on here that they got their Touch HD for $200, I'll be on that right away. I hope for everyone's sake this is true, as it'd turn out to be great... And if it is, thank you in advance for helping us.
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alrighty, now that is a much better approach. just to get this out there (and I suppose I had better update the OP on ppcgeeks as well), you dont ever pay out any money before you know whats going on. its not like you pay 6 then figure out what the heck is going on
4. be sure to become familiar with netflix and blockbuster [online].
Bah, hoops!
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Why must we know that? How about you PM me with the details. I'd love to read the few very long posts.
I had a email from a very nice lady in Nigeria whose poor husband had been killed, he was a general in the army and very rich and all I had to do was give her my bank details so she could deposit his $10,000,000 into my account so she could gain access to it. All I had to do was let her have my secret password
and send her some money and for my help I got 10% for doing it.
Really its true, my balance has gone to zero but she said this is normal and my $1,000,000 should be in my account any day now.
So i dont need to join this scheme as I have plenty of money to by a Touch HD at full price but I am sure it will work just as well as my Nigerian deal has
Anyone know of a way to remove ads from applications without purchasing them?
I got this from one of the posts here on xda.
Worked pretty good man, thanks I appreciate it.
No problem, I just came across it in one of the threads here so I am not trying to take any credit here.
Put the hosts file in /system/etc
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The zip file has a text file with instructions.
So why do ads in free software really bother people that much?
I mean TV Commercials really get to you that bad?
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So why do ads in free software really bother people that much?
I mean TV Commercials really get to you that bad?
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yes thats why i only watch dvr or hulu
It never ceases to amaze me how people expect others to spend time and money developing apps and products and then just give them away for nothing...........Would you go to work if they decided not to pay you?? So, why would you expect them to work for free?? The people who develop these apps know how cheap people are, so they get companies to pay them to advertise on their apps so we can get them for free.....if you don't like the ads, buy the app!
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DVR FTW!!!!
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yes thats why i only watch dvr or hulu
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Hulu has commercials! lol very short ones, but they do!
I just don't get why people comment in the market "Ads, uninstalled"
Do people not realize the ammount of time it takes to write an app? This **** aint simple.
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It never ceases to amaze me how people expect others to spend time and money developing apps and products and then just give them away for nothing...........Would you go to work if they decided not to pay you?? So, why would you expect them to work for free?? The people who develop these apps know how cheap people are, so they get companies to pay them to advertise on their apps so we can get them for free.....if you don't like the ads, buy the app!
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Sorry thought we were talking about commercials. I didnt read any posts above KC's. I concur buy the app if you dont want the adds.
I mind the ads less than I do the pompous people who complain about what I should do. This thread was clearly titled so if my blocking ads from MY phone on MY service bothers you so much just stay out of the thread. No reason to start an argument since the OP's question was answered already.
If you really wanted to debate this why not start your own thread? This would allow you to voice your oppinion and for others to avoid reading it. There are plenty of reasons to want to block ads, not just in apps. Is it really worse than running adblock in Firefox? If you take adblocking away from me just take the web away too. If I have to look at ads I would learn to live without the internet.
I bet your on a pirated copy of windows with other pirated software installed as well.
Why start another thread for it, I was just saying somebody might be trying to buy some groceries, and disabling them makes it that much harder to buy the appropriate stuff to do all this. I'm sure you're well aware computers ain't cheap, neither is the education.
I wasn't trying to start any thing, but peoples "give it to me free I don't want to work for it" attitude pisses me off. Especially if it is my work that went into it.
Damn my moral values and ethics, damn my hard working self.
An yeah, I think running Adblock in firefox is pretty bogus too, hosting is expensive crap especially if you have any kind of traffic volume. The ads support the website.
Is it just me or do you apparently not know how this stuff works?
I go to school and pay 60 grand to learn how to write software and want to make a few bucks off an ad click or two to help pay the loan off...hell maybe even buy another phone to dev from... but your too high and mighty to click on an ad link so a company throws me a penny (almost litterally) for something I GAVE you? Pretty cheap dude, I'd hate to see what you get your girl for her birthday.
I guess you really do deserve it free...I don't think your service pays for the dev...but what ever free is free right?
Free beer people, free beer.
OH and incase you don't get the free beer reference here you go, Ill give you this too so you don't have to do any work to figure out what thats about.
And to everyone else, sorry for the rant/thread high jack...well i guess thread reuse since this has been solved...I have a sore spot about this kind of stuff if you didn't notice.
To each his own, to you it is an insult for a person to feel like they have a right to determine how they use their property and the service they pay for. To me it is exactly what this community is about. I'm kinda surprised you have anything to do with the rooting/custom ROM community since the idea of using it the way it is given to me is not exactly what happens here. You also assume incorrectly about my piracy. Windows Vista came with my laptop, Windows XP came with my desktop. I think the majority of internet users would agree that ads ruin the web experience. It is my computer/phone and I pay for my service so if I want to block ads it is not up to someone else to put me down for it.
As for the apps, sure if you want an app and it costs money then by all means pay for it. For me I will buy apps that I deem worthy, however I am not interested in my network and GPS being used every time I open some app. The person who wrote the app is free to stop providing it ad supported but that does not give them the right to decide what traffic I allow over my phone and service. If I wanted someone else to be able to tell me what I can and can't do on my phone I would buy an iPhone.
BTW, I'm not trying to be a jerk here or make enemies or raise the hate even. I guess you take it a little more to heart how others choose to use their phones. For me, it is up to them. I do think it's kind of lame though to accuse someone of piracy just because they block ads.
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To each his own, to you it is an insult for a person to feel like they have a right to determine how they use their property and the service they pay for. To me it is exactly what this community is about. I'm kinda surprised you have anything to do with the rooting/custom ROM community since the idea of using it the way it is given to me is not exactly what happens here. You also assume incorrectly about my piracy. Windows Vista came with my laptop, Windows XP came with my desktop. I think the majority of internet users would agree that ads ruin the web experience. It is my computer/phone and I pay for my service so if I want to block ads it is not up to someone else to put me down for it.
As for the apps, sure if you want an app and it costs money then by all means pay for it. For me I will buy apps that I deem worthy, however I am not interested in my network and GPS being used every time I open some app. The person who wrote the app is free to stop providing it ad supported but that does not give them the right to decide what traffic I allow over my phone and service. If I wanted someone else to be able to tell me what I can and can't do on my phone I would buy an iPhone.
BTW, I'm not trying to be a jerk here or make enemies or raise the hate even. I guess you take it a little more to heart how others choose to use their phones. For me, it is up to them. I do think it's kind of lame though to accuse someone of piracy just because they block ads.
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Hey, I am all about making something better...its what I do. Hacking this stuff together and making it better than sprint could is top notch. But you aren't defacing the value of someones work here....like I said, your cell service doesn't pay the developer, the ads do. GPS location is a little extreme for any app that isn't geo-centric, but a little data never hurt anybody - expecially anybody with our plans.
Again, I as you, am not trying to get pissed at anyone, but advertising is the only way some companies survive, narrow margins are hell for anyone. Been there, done that.
And the acusation of piracy was stereo typical and short sighted, my appologies, I get heated - quick.
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T For me I will buy apps that I deem worthy, however I am not interested in my network and GPS being used every time I open some app. The person who wrote the app is free to stop providing it ad supported but that does not give them the right to decide what traffic I allow over my phone and service. If I wanted someone else to be able to tell me what I can and can't do on my phone I would buy an iPhone.
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You know...I was all set to jump all over you until I read the above. While I agree with KCarpenter that application developers should be paid for their work, I cannot disagree with what you said there...each time an ad-enabled application is opened it automatically opens a connected via your mobile network to an external site to load it. This does in fact mean that someone else is controlling what your phone does/doesn't connect to...
The only workaround I can see for it is to either not use ad-aware applications at all, or block the ads from being able to be run at all through a hosts file update. Unfortunately I can't see a way around it. Morally I'm stuck on two fronts. #1. I don't mind ads because they do support further development for some applications (the ones I like I purchase, ad problem goes away). BUT...#2. Having someone else force my phone to a site I didn't send my phone to grates on me.
In a perfect world, all apps would be donate-ware, or function limited until purchased. But this isn't a perfect world and there are way too many scum balls out there who would take someone else's work and freeload off of it. Hence the ads.
Bah. Moral dilemma. I hate moral dilemmas.
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I don't think the ads are so annoying yet that anything would really be worth the trouble of blocking. Rarely do I even notice the ad when I am in it. It's one of those things that you just tune out eventually. It's a shame but some of these apps that run on ads will access GPS to get your location, I am assuming because the ad company is catering ads to your general vicinity. IMO this is overboard on the ads and each time it starts the GPS it is in fact using my battery. The only reason my GPS should come on is if I want it to. This was the tipping point for me and why I started blocking them. The ads alone are not that big of a deal, but just because I am opening up some cheap game or rss reader or something doesn't mean that I should have to give up all my personal rights. They can show me an ad, but stop following me around. Well, that's just my take.
As for the developers of the apps, I love these guys. If I didn't appreciate their work I wouldn't have it on my phone. I have no problem helping them out, I'll feed a hungry wolf in the wild but I won't feed it by hand.
AdFree in the market works pretty well.
Dear XDA: I think the time has come for you to step out of the shadows. I was at Barnes and Noble the other day and started looking for a magazine in their sizable magazine section. I was frustrated when i went to look for a magazine about android -anything- and found zero mags. However, i did happen to find 12 magazines covering apple. Soo i searched online and to my dismay have only found one magazine that covers android and only apps. Please save all of us who love android and need something to read on the toilet. I promise you i will be the first to subscribe. There is a desert wasteland when it comes to android magazines and you could be our oasis. Seems like now could be the opportune time.
(sorry for the dramatics...just thought it would be fun to post my thoughts about this...)
A magazine on Android ? hmmm...
It's a good idea. There's inough content out there right now to fill a year's worth of monthly editions. I'd subscribe (as long as it wasn't priced unreasonably), and it could open way more people to Android rooting/flashing/modding...
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+1 thats whats missing actually. go for it XDA. u properly backed up anyway, so ...
Definitely a good idea. The democracy has always overthrowed the dictatorship. That's just the way the world goes.
If nothing else, and I hate to say it, think of the revenues.
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an XDA-MAg it's a good idea, specially if my work it's on the front page....hehehe .
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Sounds cool. But sounds dangerous for xda also. Just thinking that people who aren't supposed to root or mod their phones might pick up a magazine andtry, then fail, maybe even brick their phones, and then they try sue xda. All i'm trying to say is I think it's best for people who don't have the mindset for modding or whatnot, to not be introduced to it or even tempted.
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Sounds cool. But sounds dangerous for xda also. Just thinking that people who aren't supposed to root or mod there phones might pick up a magazine and try, then fail, maybe even brick their phones, and then they try sue xda. All i'm trying to say is I think it's best for people who don't have the mindset for modding or whatnot, to not be introduced to it or even tempted.
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A Warning on any article helps, they cannot get sued just because someone brick their phone, it wont be XDA fault.
Yeah but some narrow-minded twit is bound to try and go after xda at some point anyways, if it hasn't happened already. And there's always an opportunistic lawyer to accomodate (apologies to any members who happen to be lawyers lol). That's why there are disclaimers at the top of almost every thread. At least magazine revenue would help pay the legal defense fees.
This site has gotten so big since Android got hot, there's a constant influx of people who just bought their first smartphone and already know they want it rooted with CM7 and A2SD, but have no idea how to make it happen. If properly implemented, the mag could be a roadmap to get them started, and teach them some forum etiquitte (search, read, search, read, find correct forum to ask in) before they end up neck deep in technical terms they've never heard before, and a device that no longer boots. Beats following some half-ass youtube video with a megaupload link and then having a first post on xda titled 'help i bricked my...'
Edit: damn you, skepticalguy, you stole my spot ;-p
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A Warning on any article helps, they cannot get sued just because someone brick their phone, it wont be XDA fault.
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A warning/disclaimer won't be a magical 'no lawsuit' pass for anyone. If enough people face issues and ends up bricking their devices, the magazine will get sued. Whether the lawsuit succeeds or not is up in the air, but I doubt it's 100% guaranteed to fail and, more likely than not, retailers selling the magazine will then ask themselves if they should continue stocking it or not.
And, of course, we're just talking about lawsuits from regular folks. Imagine if Google (or any number of other corporations involved in profiting from Android) gets a hold of the news that there's a magazine out there advising the general population on hacking the OS. Somehow, I think this is going to be another one of those times when 'Do No Evil' no longer applies.
If XDA decides to gets its own magazine, it should do what others have done: Give advice to look up how to do it, but do not offer any direct advice. If the people reading the magazine decides to continue doing it, then they only have whatever advice source they looked up to blame if something screws up. Of course, this still doesn't give the 'No Lawsuits' pass, but it'll probably be a much stronger case for the magazine.
All of this could just be my pessimism speaking, so no one has to feel that what I said will be unalterable reality. Still, it seems like an awful lot of risk for an attempt to get into a market that is supposedly not doing so well. I mean, there's nothing wrong with being online-exclusive. I doubt Engadget, with its 5+ million visitors, is complaining.
True true. The xda portal is pretty much like engadget itself. And engadget gets some of its news from xda also. Guess the problem is, the amount of people that are interested in hacking and modding, which is a relatively small amount. And well, as said before, we don't want to be inviting people who aren't supposed to be hacking or modding, else we get more threads saying how they bricked their phones. So maybe it's best to just stay as it is now.
^ Yes, you are right about that, but perhaps it's not as matter of exposure.
Look at the iPhone. Jailbreaking is much more widespread than Android rooting, but last I heard, it was still only about 2-4% of the entire iPhone userbase that was doing it. As others mentioned, there are several iPhone/Apple magazines too.
I think hacking has always been the domain of a small number of folks who probably knows the method to find out how to do such things by themselves anyway. The overwhelming majority probably doesn't want to hack and additional exposure by magazines to them might increase the hacking community by a small amount, but probably not any very significantly.
Rooting/jailbreaking/custom ROMS/etc will probably continue to be the domain of folks like those who frequent XDA and it's unlikely that it'll ever be as popular as, say, downloading MP3s until it becomes a super easy/risk-free task that has an undeniable benefit to the common man.
But frankly, I don't see a need to make it as common as downloading MP3s anyway. XDA is freely available to anyone who wants to know and, for those who don't want to know, let them continue using a stock Samsung Nexus S.
Yes... xda is the way forward! It is improving alot!!!!!!!!!
Now we have xda tv, i cant wait to see whats next!
Also @OP, why don't you take your phone to the toilet LOL You will have your all in one phone/magazine/browser
Jokes!
LMAO I actually just read the last few posts on the crapper!! Get out of my head!
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LMAO I actually just read the last few posts on the crapper!! Get out of my head!
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Hello XDA world.
First of all I would like to apologize to anyone that was offended by me or anything like that. I’ve been getting a lot of hate from idiots that come to XDA to troll and they never do anything for the community. I was banned for 2 years from the site because MY PERSONAL TESTER HOMAIS wanted to remember his 10 years old age and decided to **** me over. I had weeks without talking to him since he was my HTC Sensation ROM tester and I moved to the beloved TMO Samsung Galaxy S II and no longer needed him. My friendship with him started when I released Senseless ROM which was a BOMB and got over 110,000 downloads. He started talking on my thread and was a user, who seemed to be a good person, and he joined my FACEBOOK group and all and it continued like that as he asked me if he could test my early builds. I said yes as I was looking for tester to make a testers squad and I got him in. **** was going well and we formed a friendship and laughed and talked daily. I used to tell users to thank me if they liked my work. Homais started spending his 5 thanks on me and telling me about it. I wanted to beat a couple of people that used to flame me on my first days as a developer so I didn’t say no to homais which I had to do so IMO now that I think about it. Homais kept thanking me daily (5 thanks daily) and one day he made 2 accounts to thank me. I did not ask him to do so, he did it by himself and started giving me 15 thanks daily. I wasn’t liking the idea as it was just wrong but he kept thanking me. Well to make it short I moved to the TMO SGSII and homais and me didn’t talk so much. He gave me all his passwords for his accounts, Homais, homiethedev, dr.devman (password=yourmom). I did not thank myself with his accounts as I just didn’t feel like doing so. The HTC Sensation forums made me very big and I wanted to be clear of trouble and stuff like that. More in the present, few weeks ago I told Homais to open a bounty thread for me on the Skyrocket as I was told by a mod that I could not make myself a bounty thread. Homais agreed. He posted the thread for me. But still we didn’t talk much as before. Coming to today, he emails me saying a bunch of crap and I’m like what the f is going on. He started telling me a bunch of crap and that he was going to close the thread for the bounty and more ****. I was like grow up kid.
Homais told mods that I hacked his account, that I thanked myself on threads, and who the hell knows what else. Clearly it was all lies. On the email he sent me, he was saying that the reason for doing this to me was because he helped me a lot and every time he asked me for help, I did not help him. I’m a very busy developer short on time and almost don’t even sleep. He thinks a dev has all the free time as him or what ever. Well yea guys the idiot is so child that got me banned for 2 years because I couldn’t help him when he needed me. GOD dam what kind of balls. Keyboard hood to the attack. That’s what homais is. But well this is not the subject.
To XDA now! You made a big mistake. You DID NOT ASK ME anything. YOU MAKE THE DUMBEST DESITION EVER. You banned someone that has been supporting the community for almost a year for the simple reason that MY DAMM TESTER DECIDED TO RUIN MY LIFE. XDA was all I cared about. Where I felt I was at home, where I shared my work all the time. I was loyal to the site, always helping everyone, listening to users and the last thing I had in my mind was money when I went to the site. I spent LOTS of my free time making my ROMs, ported apps, mods and all I shared on the site. You all are making it wrong guys. But keep it like that and your big site will keep going down and down as it’s been for the year. Rootzwiki is gaining them all. If you don’t unban me I’ll be working on my new home droid-tech.net as the owner really appreciates what I do and as an action of grateful he’s even sending me a free phone and will send me the devices I want to dev on. That’s what I worth. I don’t care about the phones but rather the help he’s giving me. I would like XDA to ban Homais and his accounts homiethedev and dr.devman as he caused this mess and got me into this big issue. I would like XDA to unban me or at least Let me start fresh and all. I have thousands of followers and thousands of followers would be mad at XDA for this.
If you are one of my followers, I will be at droid-tech.net, also you can follow me on twitter and Facebook as those places is where I’ll be posting my work and maybe I’ll have sammydr10 to post my ROMs at XDA. My apologies to my dear users which I love. I WONT stop development as this is just what I love. Too bad that XDA made this injustice with me.
Skyrocket users, I did not still your money for the device. I will buy the device as soon as I can complete the money missing or if someone want to help still then it would be good. I’m really sorry for all this guys.
@TMO SGSII users, ill be posting all my work at droid-tech.net again as the company wiped the data of the site and all the work was lost. Please follow me @bosina_dev (twitter) , Melvin peralta (G+) And on my FB group.
I will post here some proof and pics of what I was talking and some others so you all get the mind clear about me!
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^^Right there is the prove that I did NOT stole homais passwords. AND he SAYS THAT HE ****ED ME OVER. NOT THAT I DID WRONG!
Take NOTES!
Again ^^ More proof that the idiot lied.
All seems as a troller.. What an asshole without **** to do!
Again, im sorry to XDA and my users. Maybe I get a chance in live. Thanks guys. Love you all. Apreciate all those who have taken money from their bills to give me some love.
From Your Young dev Melvin, The Dev that never sleeps. :’(
Wow that is weak....... is xda going to reinstate hia account?
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Wow that is weak....... is xda going to reinstate hia account?
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im not sure just posted at his request he is my friend and fellow dev buddy
I hope they do i was testing his beastmod test4 rom for him . Seems like a good dude and a good developer
Can he make a new acccount?
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Thank you for posting this. We needed to hear his side of the story.
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I love his ROM and I want him back
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if he does get the att skyrocket he will still dev just on droidtech
I've referred the thread to the senior moderation team for their attention. As far as I'm concerned, this kind of thread doesn't belong on XDA. If you want to gripe about a ban, then privately message one of the administrators or senior moderators.
I would add that the above fails to address a significant portion of the reason for his removal. Namely the creation of an account to go about thanking himself, and the IP address evidence from the posts made using "his friend's" account.
Let this be a reminder to everyone. I hate seeing this kind of thing. Use secure passwords. Don't give them to ANYONE. If someone gives you their password, don't use it. It's not worth it.
Especially when people are dealing with money and financial things - it's not right for one party to imitate another...
So yes, I would remind people that the above is merely one viewpoint from the individual concerned. It does not address the evidence regarding use of accounts. Either way, I have seen satisfactory proof that the posts were made from Melvin's connection, and not that of the account holder.
I don't know what these kids are playing at, but folks, take this as a learning opportunity - if you have shared your password, change it. Then don't do it again. Make sure it's a good one. It's your duty to keep your password safe on XDO, and other sites you use.
And yes, making unauthorised access to another user's account is illegal. We don't want to investigate if you had permission or not - that's what the courts are for. Just a reminder to look after yourselves online
So my brother came to me today and knows i can root phones and whatnot. He thinks his girl is cheating on him. He says she has one of those apps that changes the notification icon of recieves messages from certain contacts and the messages dont show up in her normal inbox. At this point he just wants to catch them in the act. So, she has a samsung galaxy S1 and i know i can root it. He said he wants it so when she sends/recieves a text, it saves whatever is sent/recieved to a file OR saved in a database somewhere. and he wants a gps on her phone that lets him check where her phone is.
What apps/hacks can i use to do this without her knowing? He said hes even willing to pay for any apps if neccesary. But the apps cant be noticeable. Thank you guys Raidenbeats out!!
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So my brother came to me today and knows i can root phones and whatnot. He thinks his girl is cheating on him. He says she has one of those apps that changes the notification icon of recieves messages from certain contacts and the messages dont show up in her normal inbox. At this point he just wants to catch them in the act. So, she has a samsung galaxy S1 and i know i can root it. He said he wants it so when she sends/recieves a text, it saves whatever is sent/recieved to a file OR saved in a database somewhere. and he wants a gps on her phone that lets him check where her phone is.
What apps/hacks can i use to do this without her knowing? He said hes even willing to pay for any apps if neccesary. But the apps cant be noticeable. Thank you guys Raidenbeats out!!
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Look for any apps named like Shady SMS or whatever. It's like THE cheating app. If she has that, you don't even have to catch her.
Since she is going to know right away that her user data got all wiped when you rooted it why bother
^^^^^^^ this. Yeah really. If she's going to know since her data gets wiped. I'd recommend your brother having a good friend of his, one that she doesn't know, or at least doesn't know what he drives, have him drive your brother around and see where she goes. She won't know cuz she won't know that she's being followed. Or just have your brother's friend follow her...
And take this from someone with experience with this, women are VERY VERY good liars. Unlike us men, who are kinda good liars, but women, they are twice as sneaky as us men, TRUST ME! Anyway, if he catches her with another guy, and she lied about where she was at, and she says that they are JUST friends, she's lying! She's a freaking LIAR! And NOW is the time to KICK HER TO THE CURB! And then find the guy she's hanging with and twist his neck! Or at least curb stomp his little bitc# ass!!
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Well he already knows she is cheating. He just wants to catch her. He also said he doesnt care if it wipes her user data, he will make her background the same as it was before and redownload all her apps. She already "accidentally" deleted all her contacts (because she had the other dudes number in there) so she wont notice that. + shes kind of a bimbo and would probably just chalk it up to her phone dropping. (She cracjed the screen and thinks that will mess up the software so it wouldnt be hard to convince her otherwise)
So no one has an app/hack to suggest?
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Since she is going to know right away that her user data got all wiped when you rooted it why bother
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root does not involve wiping data, you can root S1 easily with framaroot app, here you go too many apps out there
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Assuming you're in the US/Canada or any country in the EU this would be highly illegal and I'd advise not doing it.
Tell your brother to take her somewhere that is in public with a lot of people around, expose her for the POS that she really is, and leave her there.
Then he should throw a party to celebrate throwing out the trash.
Cheating is for selfish, pathetic, spineless and untrustworthy people.
If you don't want to be with someone, treat them like a person and be honest, just tell them.
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Tell your brother to take her somewhere that is in public with a lot of people around, expose her for the POS that she really is, and leave her there.
Then he should throw a party to celebrate throwing out the trash.
Cheating is for selfish, pathetic, spineless and untrustworthy people.
If you don't want to be with someone, treat them like a person and be honest, just tell them.
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Unfortunately, this thread will be closed if it starts to be about cheating girlfriends instead of being about rooting and "spying" apps.
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Assuming you're in the US/Canada or any country in the EU this would be highly illegal and I'd advise not doing it.
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He owns the phone and pays the phone bill
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He owns the phone and pays the phone bill
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Maybe so but in some countries (US and Europe) there are still laws that apply to illegal interception of communications.
Well anyways, what are some apps or things i can do? Anyone know of anything good?
http://www.crazyandroid.com/top-10-android-spy-apps-you-dont-want-to-miss/
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Secret Sms replicator i used that once XD caught my GF planning to have something with best friend,uhm well they did XD haha they were shocked when i showed them their messages XD haha any way search the file on the web if you cant find it pm me,i thinks its not available on the web,i bought it on a forum
You are strongly recommended that you should not post these kind of threat here in xda. Because they are non legal and they intrude with the policy of xda's policy if non development. So beware before posting such threats.
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Secret Sms replicator i used that once XD caught my GF planning to have something with best friend,uhm well they did XD haha they were shocked when i showed them their messages XD haha any way search the file on the web if you cant find it pm me,i thinks its not available on the web,i bought it on a forum
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Is the app hidden on their phone rhough?