I'm sure most people here have used that phrase before at least once in a comment or talking to someone. It's the feeling of us g2x owners that bought the device with high expectations because it was arguably the best Android phone at the time, and because it has a "with Google" branding on the back. But the lack of support from LG left us with a bad feeling towards the company that is hard to look past it.
But, all of the sudden, a bright spot appeared this week when LG released the source of ICS for the SCU660 and ICS and JellyBean are possible once again. On top of that, today Google announced what's arguably the best smartphone right now (not only android), the Nexus 4, and this time with the nexus brand it will not get left behind in the software department.
So, it looks like I'm willing to give LG another chance with this new device despite the history with the g2x. And when the new roms (g2x) start appearing in the development section, I'll sure be flashing them.
What do you think about LG, are you giving them a chance too?
Here's the link to the Nexus 4:
Nexus 4 on Google Play
Please stop creating such threads like these, search forums this has been discussed before.
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I'm sure most people here have used that phrase before at least once in a comment or talking to someone. It's the feeling of us g2x owners that bought the device with high expectations because it was arguably the best Android phone at the time, and because it has a "with Google" branding on the back. But the lack of support from LG left us with a bad feeling towards the company that is hard to look past it.
But, all of the sudden, a bright spot appeared this week when LG released the source of ICS for the SCU660 and ICS and JellyBean are possible once again. On top of that, today Google announced what's arguably the best smartphone right now (not only android), the Nexus 4, and this time with the nexus brand it will not get left behind in the software department.
So, it looks like I'm willing to give LG another chance with this new device despite the history with the g2x. And when the new roms (g2x) start appearing in the development section, I'll sure be flashing them.
What do you think about LG, are you giving them a chance too?
Here's the link to the Nexus 4:
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Do you understand what the word never means homie? If you were a battered wife, and your husband was like Hey, I'll treat you betta baby. Are you gonna be that idiot who sticks with 'em cuz you got a baby on the way?
No. You distance yourself as much as possible and try to raise the kid right. Away from bad influences, like LG. LG gon' beat yo kids, homie.
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Do you understand what the word never means homie? If you were a battered wife, and your husband was like Hey, I'll treat you betta baby. Are you gonna be that idiot who sticks with 'em cuz you got a baby on the way?
No. You distance yourself as much as possible and try to raise the kid right. Away from bad influences, like LG. LG gon' beat yo kids, homie.
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Except that in real life a lot if women stay with their abusive partners...
In my case, I've had a good track record with LG (two dumb phones followed by two smartphones), then the G2x. My next phone was going to be the Galaxy Nexus, but that's been replaced by the Nexus 4 and for the same price so looks like LG has me for my sixth phone in a row. After my contract is up in July, though, I'm still considering Windows Phone 8 or I'll just use the Nexus on a prepaid T-Mobile plan.
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That was the funnest thing I saw all day. Thank :thumbup:
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Im just going to start replying to these kind of threads by this:
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Whatever.. I just wanted to communicate with you guys here. Now I know it's just a waste of time. I'm glad I'm getting the Nexus and I won't need to be here as much.
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Whatever.. I just wanted to communicate with you guys here. Now I know it's just a waste of time. I'm glad I'm getting the Nexus and I won't need to be here as much.
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With that attitude ...we will too.
All set aside, you could've communicated in one of the MANY "i hate LG " threads. There seems to be an abundance these days, but that's one thing users tend to hate around here, multiple threads on the same topic or content.
Now that being said, the other guys were just giving you a hard time. So wasn't i, my pic was more for their humor,not to directly insult you.
So you can get a huffy over a couple post giving you a hard time for something thats clearly stated in the rules and run away, or kick back,shoot the ****, laugh a lil, and you may just find there is some cool stuff and a lil life left in our G2x.
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Do you understand what the word never means homie? If you were a battered wife, and your husband was like Hey, I'll treat you betta baby. Are you gonna be that idiot who sticks with 'em cuz you got a baby on the way?
No. You distance yourself as much as possible and try to raise the kid right. Away from bad influences, like LG. LG gon' beat yo kids, homie.
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Hide yo kids, hide yo wife?
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And how EXACTLY is he a Noob?
justjackyl said:
With that attitude ...we will too.
All set aside, you could've communicated in one of the MANY "i hate LG " threads.
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Instead of making this into a flame the OP thread, maybe you should stop and read it. At first glance it did look it was one of those, then I actually read and noticed that, if anything, it was about the next nexus phone and whether or not, despite the 'LG never again' bit some throw around, people from this forum will take an interest and perhaps buy it.
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Whatever.. I just wanted to communicate with you guys here. Now I know it's just a waste of time. I'm glad I'm getting the Nexus and I won't need to be here as much.
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Good luck, maybe they won't have the elitism which this forum tends to have.
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Whatever.. I just wanted to communicate with you guys here. Now I know it's just a waste of time. I'm glad I'm getting the Nexus and I won't need to be here as much.
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I hear ya. Definitely seen friendlier devices sections of this forum. I think it's just people are so unhappy with going a year and no ICS source that they take it out on others.
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And how EXACTLY is he a Noob?
ITS A FREAKIN JOKE LOL
Instead of making this into a flame the OP thread, maybe you should stop and read it. At first glance it did look it was one of those, then I actually read and noticed that, if anything, it was about the next nexus phone and whether or not, despite the 'LG never again' bit some throw around, people from this forum will take an interest and perhaps buy it.
And both have been and are disscussed in other threads. Which, is what the center of of the negativity.
Good luck, maybe they won't have the elitism which this forum tends to have.
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People in our forum may have gone just a bit over the top with all the excitement of a future for our G2X's... They don't read threads carefully anymore and just want to go all out on people. I don't see anything wrong with this thread.. He's just giving us his opinion on LG.
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People in our forum may have gone just a bit over the top with all the excitement of a future for our G2X's... They don't read threads carefully anymore and just want to go all out on people. I don't see anything wrong with this thread.. He's just giving us his opinion on LG.
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Agree completely, some people are just bitter. If you don't like lg sell your phone and get something else. Don't worry about someone else that has changed their opinion. I don't like how the g2x turned out and just like the op I told myself I wouldn't buy lg again, but the nexus 4 and it's specs look pretty good. I'm not going to pick it up right away, but I'm going to wait a few months and see how development goes. The nexus line has always been awesome for development and often the first to get new release of android.
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I'll buy another LG once they officially release and support ICS on this phone like they should have a LOOONG time ago. Alternately if they come out and publicly acknowledged they completely, knowingly, willfully F'ed G2X buyers and offer us free Nexus 4's or other phone running ICS/JB with specs similar to or better than the G2x to make up for the lost money and many, many hours of wasted infuriating frustration.
I have a feeing the source drop and the SU660 ICS release may have been done under pressure from Google given the current LG/Nexus partnership, and while it's very welcome, it's also just about the smallest, minimal gesture that would actually still help heal the gigantic bloody insult LG has perpetrated on those who tried to support them by buying their new untested flagship phone at launch!!
T-Mobile/LG all but stole $500 from me when they sold me this deeply flawed phone. I don't forgive such theft because of a fancy new product or some dramatically late, minimal source code.
Maybe, maybe in a few years if they earn a stellar reputation of supporting their phones after purchase and keeping them updated with the latest Android I'll reconsider. But unless the Nexus partnership really changes LG's development dramatically I will not expect that to happen.
People, be nice to each other. Have some tolerance, it is better simply to not add to the fired when one or two already started going offtopic or being offensive to the OP, think about the bandwidth! :good:
Ppl, just follow the
"it's better to keep your mouth shut if you have nothing good to say" rule.
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OP has misunderstood reality, thinking somehow that LG releasing ICS for su660 is then doing him a favor.
Anything we get is purely and only due to RC and CM. LG still sucks BIG TIME. T-mo also sucks unfortunately.
Nice hardware with Google support is tempting, but LG hasn't changed, so screw them.
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Ppl, just follow the
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i like my rule better...if you don't have anything nice to say about someone, come sit next to me! LMAO
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Dear XDA: I think the time has come for you to step out of the shadows. I was at Barnes and Noble the other day and started looking for a magazine in their sizable magazine section. I was frustrated when i went to look for a magazine about android -anything- and found zero mags. However, i did happen to find 12 magazines covering apple. Soo i searched online and to my dismay have only found one magazine that covers android and only apps. Please save all of us who love android and need something to read on the toilet. I promise you i will be the first to subscribe. There is a desert wasteland when it comes to android magazines and you could be our oasis. Seems like now could be the opportune time.
(sorry for the dramatics...just thought it would be fun to post my thoughts about this...)
A magazine on Android ? hmmm...
It's a good idea. There's inough content out there right now to fill a year's worth of monthly editions. I'd subscribe (as long as it wasn't priced unreasonably), and it could open way more people to Android rooting/flashing/modding...
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+1 thats whats missing actually. go for it XDA. u properly backed up anyway, so ...
Definitely a good idea. The democracy has always overthrowed the dictatorship. That's just the way the world goes.
If nothing else, and I hate to say it, think of the revenues.
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an XDA-MAg it's a good idea, specially if my work it's on the front page....hehehe .
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Sounds cool. But sounds dangerous for xda also. Just thinking that people who aren't supposed to root or mod their phones might pick up a magazine andtry, then fail, maybe even brick their phones, and then they try sue xda. All i'm trying to say is I think it's best for people who don't have the mindset for modding or whatnot, to not be introduced to it or even tempted.
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Sounds cool. But sounds dangerous for xda also. Just thinking that people who aren't supposed to root or mod there phones might pick up a magazine and try, then fail, maybe even brick their phones, and then they try sue xda. All i'm trying to say is I think it's best for people who don't have the mindset for modding or whatnot, to not be introduced to it or even tempted.
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A Warning on any article helps, they cannot get sued just because someone brick their phone, it wont be XDA fault.
Yeah but some narrow-minded twit is bound to try and go after xda at some point anyways, if it hasn't happened already. And there's always an opportunistic lawyer to accomodate (apologies to any members who happen to be lawyers lol). That's why there are disclaimers at the top of almost every thread. At least magazine revenue would help pay the legal defense fees.
This site has gotten so big since Android got hot, there's a constant influx of people who just bought their first smartphone and already know they want it rooted with CM7 and A2SD, but have no idea how to make it happen. If properly implemented, the mag could be a roadmap to get them started, and teach them some forum etiquitte (search, read, search, read, find correct forum to ask in) before they end up neck deep in technical terms they've never heard before, and a device that no longer boots. Beats following some half-ass youtube video with a megaupload link and then having a first post on xda titled 'help i bricked my...'
Edit: damn you, skepticalguy, you stole my spot ;-p
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yes,agree............
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A Warning on any article helps, they cannot get sued just because someone brick their phone, it wont be XDA fault.
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A warning/disclaimer won't be a magical 'no lawsuit' pass for anyone. If enough people face issues and ends up bricking their devices, the magazine will get sued. Whether the lawsuit succeeds or not is up in the air, but I doubt it's 100% guaranteed to fail and, more likely than not, retailers selling the magazine will then ask themselves if they should continue stocking it or not.
And, of course, we're just talking about lawsuits from regular folks. Imagine if Google (or any number of other corporations involved in profiting from Android) gets a hold of the news that there's a magazine out there advising the general population on hacking the OS. Somehow, I think this is going to be another one of those times when 'Do No Evil' no longer applies.
If XDA decides to gets its own magazine, it should do what others have done: Give advice to look up how to do it, but do not offer any direct advice. If the people reading the magazine decides to continue doing it, then they only have whatever advice source they looked up to blame if something screws up. Of course, this still doesn't give the 'No Lawsuits' pass, but it'll probably be a much stronger case for the magazine.
All of this could just be my pessimism speaking, so no one has to feel that what I said will be unalterable reality. Still, it seems like an awful lot of risk for an attempt to get into a market that is supposedly not doing so well. I mean, there's nothing wrong with being online-exclusive. I doubt Engadget, with its 5+ million visitors, is complaining.
True true. The xda portal is pretty much like engadget itself. And engadget gets some of its news from xda also. Guess the problem is, the amount of people that are interested in hacking and modding, which is a relatively small amount. And well, as said before, we don't want to be inviting people who aren't supposed to be hacking or modding, else we get more threads saying how they bricked their phones. So maybe it's best to just stay as it is now.
^ Yes, you are right about that, but perhaps it's not as matter of exposure.
Look at the iPhone. Jailbreaking is much more widespread than Android rooting, but last I heard, it was still only about 2-4% of the entire iPhone userbase that was doing it. As others mentioned, there are several iPhone/Apple magazines too.
I think hacking has always been the domain of a small number of folks who probably knows the method to find out how to do such things by themselves anyway. The overwhelming majority probably doesn't want to hack and additional exposure by magazines to them might increase the hacking community by a small amount, but probably not any very significantly.
Rooting/jailbreaking/custom ROMS/etc will probably continue to be the domain of folks like those who frequent XDA and it's unlikely that it'll ever be as popular as, say, downloading MP3s until it becomes a super easy/risk-free task that has an undeniable benefit to the common man.
But frankly, I don't see a need to make it as common as downloading MP3s anyway. XDA is freely available to anyone who wants to know and, for those who don't want to know, let them continue using a stock Samsung Nexus S.
Yes... xda is the way forward! It is improving alot!!!!!!!!!
Now we have xda tv, i cant wait to see whats next!
Also @OP, why don't you take your phone to the toilet LOL You will have your all in one phone/magazine/browser
Jokes!
LMAO I actually just read the last few posts on the crapper!! Get out of my head!
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huggs said:
LMAO I actually just read the last few posts on the crapper!! Get out of my head!
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ahahahh
Here is a Noob question for you. Is it possible to add an item to the stock SK4G dock bar? I want to add web in between apps and contacts cause I use it so much. I have searched the forums and can't come up with anything. Thanks.
Unfortunatly no :'( I tried doing it before and got tired of trying to figure out how to do it so I just got launcher pro than the cracked version of launcher pro plus xD
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l1f3h4cker said:
Unfortunatly no :'( I tried doing it before and got tired of trying to figure out how to do it so I just got launcher pro than the cracked version of launcher pro plus xD
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shame on you. the developers work hard on those apps. you are one of many reasons why I wont develop apps cause it will just end up on some torrent or pirate site so cheap bastards such as your self can steal it.
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I know that developer and that is the reason hes not updating his launcher to work with ICS. Hes sick of his work being stolen from him.
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shame on you. the developers work hard on those apps. you are one of many reasons why I wont develop apps cause it will just end up on some torrent or pirate site so cheap bastards such as your self can steal it.
I know that developer and that is the reason hes not updating his launcher to work with ICS. Hes sick of his work being stolen from him.
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yeah thats poopy, but its the way of the world. people shouldnt do things they love for the hope of money, and if they dont love doing it they shouldnt do it at all.
i agree that the developer should be supported, but, if you like me and cant even afford a 1$ app, using their app and telling people how great it is is the next best thing.
Thanks for the heads up. Its a shame it can't be done but I guess that's what ROMS are for. Maybe Reactive Disorder will see this and kung fu it into one of his. I've been looking at his work and I swear he is half computer with the stuff he does. But anyway I don't agree with swiping peoples work. If they put it out there for free or just want donations then its fine to get it, otherwise PAY THEM FOR THEIR WORK! I am a chef and a musician. I HATE when people rip me off and can't tolerate seing it done to someone else. Nothing worse than spending days/weeks poring everything into something just to have someone else come in and snatch it without even a thought about what you went through. At least in my circles if you get ahold of my recipes or sheet music I can come and punch you in the face when I catch you.
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Thanks for the heads up. Its a shame it can't be done but I guess that's what ROMS are for. Maybe Reactive Disorder will see this and kung fu it into one of his. I've been looking at his work and I swear he is half computer with the stuff he does. But anyway I don't agree with swiping peoples work. If they put it out there for free or just want donations then its fine to get it, otherwise PAY THEM FOR THEIR WORK! I am a chef and a musician. I HATE when people rip me off and can't tolerate seing it done to someone else. Nothing worse than spending days/weeks poring everything into something just to have someone else come in and snatch it without even a thought about what you went through. At least in my circles if you get ahold of my recipes or sheet music I can come and punch you in the face when I catch you.
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i agree to a degree, but honestly if that person cant afford your music and there was no way to get it free, you wouldnt have gotten that money anyway.
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i agree to a degree, but honestly if that person cant afford your music and there was no way to get it free, you wouldnt have gotten that money anyway.
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I can see where your coming from but its a little different in the music world. At my shows there is the expensive seats up front, cheap seats in the back and free out in the field. I am not saying that I am after everyone's money just give me credit for my work. I have had people steal my sheet music and claim it as their own before. That doesn't mean I won't make money at all but I put a lot of work into that and to have someone else say they did it is what pissed me off. He could have had it if he just asked but that was weeks of my time lost and I have nothing to show for it. When it comes to apps I agree that there should be a free trial for all of them, but if its not and you can only get it by paying then if you want it bad enough you will buy it. If making apps was my only source of income and someone leaked it and everyone gets it for free without at least donating then I would starve. That's what gets me so riled up.
It's like every thread on here, ReActive butts in and it goes way off-topic (or he just insults someone for posting about a dream), but I can't stay away from this one as it speaks to the core of my principals.
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He could have had it if he just asked but that was weeks of my time lost and I have nothing to show for it.
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...so how does that change if he asked? What do you have to show for it then that you lost by him not asking? Even if he doesn't ask, you can still say: Hey, I made that, and people are benefiting from it. Isn't that why you create art, so people can enjoy it? Does it really matter if they know who the artist is or not (if you are not trying to make money off it)?
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If making apps was my only source of income and someone leaked it and everyone gets it for free without at least donating then I would starve. That's what gets me so riled up.
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Back to money again. Money is a false construct and has nothing to do with art, skill, or creativity. If your only source of income is payment from individuals for something you can copy and reproduce without costing you any money or time, then you are in the wrong business. If I can't hold it in my hand, it is not a commodity, it is simply knowledge/information/directions/instructions. All of those things should be free to the entire globe.
If I can see it, if I can hear it, if I can learn how to build it... then I have an undeniable human right to record it, copy it, modify it, and redistributed it to anyone and everyone. Not sharing your recipes/sheet-music with who ever is interested (for free) is a crime to my sense of morality/values. It is all just information, and the collection of all the worlds information should be freely available to every human on the planet.
"If I give you a pfennig, you will be one pfennig richer and I'll be one pfennif poorer. But if I give you an idea, you will have a new idea, but I shall still have it too" - Albert Einstein
You can't "build" it, pal.
Stealing my software (or anybody else's) is a crime.
Furthermore, it's not about the love and it's not about the people; it's about the money.
Anytime you publish any kind of IP, you know that there will be theft, but that doesn't mean I have to like it--or endorse it.
Furthermore, this site forbids piracy and if you go around proudly saying otherwise, you will proudly join Jin out there in the wild blue yonder.
If you can "build" all this great software, just make your own. No need to steal it if it's so trivial and easy for you.
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Stealing my software (or anybody else's) is a crime.
Anytime you publish any kind of IP, you know that there will be theft, but that doesn't mean I have to like it--or endorse it.
If you can "build" all this great software, just make your own. No need to steal it if it's so trivial and easy for you.
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I had a huge event to get ready for so getting back into the forums here to post has been challenging. Thank you Orange808. I was upset I couldn't get on to tell the other guy about how stealing from me hurt me, but you got to them first. I say that at the end of the day, no mater how you try to justify it, if you take something that's not yours without going through the proper channels you are a thief. I don't care what kind of Robin Hood complex you have, if you didn't compensate or do whatever else is asked of you to obtain the product, and even ideas can be products, you stole it. I am not ok with that at all. If you are ok with being a thief that's your problem, don't try to make me thank you for it. But with that all said we are way off topic. I started this thread to ask a question. It has been answered. I don't know how to close a thread on this forum, but it needs to be closed. If you want to argue about morality, START YOUR OWN THREAD! Please stop doing it on mine. Thank you.
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Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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I don't have the time/patience to look up and post all of the links , but go to wikipedia and look up Intellectual property and you will see that it is protected and treated as real property with all of the same rights. That means that taking someones music, app, program or any other IP without their permission is still theft. Don't believe me ask a lawyer. As I said before. The original topic this thread was started for has been answered and this thread is closed. Start your own thread if you really want to hash this one out.
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Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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jeez, cmon. just because you arnt physically taking it away doesnt mean you didnt steal it, i steal. i can admit that, no im not proud of it but i cant afford any of it anyway. but having your moral compass pointed so far south like that is just wrong.
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Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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I did stay away for a while. Not trolling. Will stay away again... but I saw this today and felt I had to picture-post back to ReActive. Many other people share my morals. To us, "having your moral compass pointed so far [north] like that is just wrong."
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I did stay away for a while. Not trolling. Will stay away again... but I saw this today and felt I had to picture-post back to ReActive. Many other people share my morals. To us, "having your moral compass pointed so far [north] like that is just wrong."
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Granted the hd2 has been around for a long time and has an established base, the one s is a flagship device with great specs and seems like the developer base just isn't there. Why is that?
I actually think that's pretty damn awesome that they're able to do that. We need those devs on here
I don't disagree that its great there is continued development for the hd2, but the one s is in every way a much more capable device yet lacks a jb port that can even boot at this point. Chalk it up to the newness of the hardware and lack of experienced developers? Or is there not a lot of interest in this device?
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It bothers me a lot. I keep saying that the community for this phone sucks but everyone just flames the hell out of me when I say that.
I mean this phone is full of flaws to begin with. Then it doesn't have the community to develop some quality roms for it. And all the tech sites are just blogging about the One X and neglecting the One S. So it doesn't attract any new people at all. Yet the One S is just as flagship as the One X. I believe that the S4 is still the best chip on the market right now.
Bohemus said:
I don't disagree that its great there is continued development for the hd2, but the one s is in every way a much more capable device yet lacks a jb port that can even boot at this point. Chalk it up to the newness of the hardware and lack of experienced developers? Or is there not a lot of interest in this device?
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The One S got overshadowed by the One X and then the Gal S 3. So simply put -- NO, there's not a lot of interest in the device. It's a shame because it truly is a great device, and is fast as hell. Unfortunately that's just how things so sometimes in the world of Android devices.
That being said, our dev community is by no means tiny. It's just smaller than the more popular devices like the HD2, and all the Nexus line. There's a lot of factors that play into the size of the dev community, such as specs, how hard/easy it is to unlock and root, kernel sources being released (this def hurt the One S for a while), manufacturer support, etc.
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It bothers me a lot. I keep saying that the community for this phone sucks but everyone just flames the hell out of me when I say that.
I mean this phone is full of flaws to begin with. Then it doesn't have the community to develop some quality roms for it. And all the tech sites are just blogging about the One X and neglecting the One S. So it doesn't attract any new people at all. Yet the One S is just as flagship as the One X. I believe that the S4 is still the best chip on the market right now.
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You get flamed, because even though the community lacks. You cannot take ANYTHING away from the dev's who have put time into making quality Rom's for the community. The word "sucks" brings down everyone who has put in work.
When i first got my Mytouch 4g Slide. There was 2 Rom's for atleast a month. Maybe 3 roms by 2 months. Be happy for what we have. Not for what we don't have.. if the community "sucks" so bad. Pick up a book and learn to cook us up some Rom's. Until then don't bring the dev's down because you're mad there isn't 15 roms to pick from..
S4 is the best IMO right now. Eventually things will kick up. Once the phone gets some time under it's belt. TMO will start giving them out at discounted prices. That's when this phone will pick up..
By all means don't take this as a "flame" because it's not. Just a friendly reminder that we do have good dev's. And they do deserve respect.
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Easy, sell the ONE S, buy a HD2.
Problem Solved
solracarevir said:
Easy, sell the ONE S, buy a HD2.
Problem Solved
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And then comes the useless comments
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nickmv said:
The One S got overshadowed by the One X and then the Gal S 3. So simply put -- NO, there's not a lot of interest in the device. It's a shame because it truly is a great device, and is fast as hell. Unfortunately that's just how things so sometimes in the world of Android devices.
That being said, our dev community is by no means tiny. It's just smaller than the more popular devices like the HD2, and all the Nexus line. There's a lot of factors that play into the size of the dev community, such as specs, how hard/easy it is to unlock and root, kernel sources being released (this def hurt the One S for a while), manufacturer support, etc.
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I think it's T-Mobile in general. I don't think a lot of developers are on t-mobile because we aren't known for getting the best phones.
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I think Blaming and Bashing is more useless.
I mean, You can't compare the size and the Quality of the HD2 community with the ONE S community.
Once google releases a OS that didn't came preloaded with our phone we should not be whining about why X phone (which is inferior than mine) already have that OS and we don't.
We will get JB someday, thanks to the developer community. As I said earlier, if you cant wait to have JB don't complain, learn to build JB from source and do it yourself or buy a HD2 (which by the looks of it, they already have JB)
Hd2 is from t mobile and it's a great phone
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And so is the HTC Sensation, which have a great developer community. If I don't remember wrong it was one of the first devices to receive ICS on late december.
Developers follow devices, I mean, some of them Do care about carriers, but if the device is good, developers will look for it.
Both phones
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Easy, sell the ONE S, buy a HD2.
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I have both phones. Loved, loved, absolutely loved the support for the HD2. But by no means was there always some HUGE selection. It took a lot of patience to hold out for some of the ROMs I knew were coming. I think the development for this phone will pick up.
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And so is the HTC Sensation, which have a great developer community. If I don't remember wrong it was one of the first devices to receive ICS on late december.
Developers follow devices, I mean, some of them Do care about carriers, but if the device is good, developers will look for it.
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Speaking of the sensation cm just posted this image on g+ hopefully this means something is on the horizon for us.
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I'm pretty sure we'll get 4.1. Even the Blaze 4G is getting ICS.
Everything is ported to the hd2. It's the swiss army knife of phones. You want windows, android, meego? Boom! It's great just watching it unfold! Going to flash jb as soon as theirs a solid rom. Don't forget the hd2 has paid its dues from booting from sd and duel booting, etc. It's been a long grueling 3 years. The hos is still in its infancy.
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I think it's T-Mobile in general. I don't think a lot of developers are on t-mobile because we aren't known for getting the best phones.
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No, it's more that homebrew communities develop around the devices that can be used off contract or at off-contract prices.
Hence things like the HD2, the Sensation, and the Nexus become far more popular than they otherwise would be if they couldn't be used on a ton of networks without full data pricing. In fact, those devices continue to be relevant long after their hardware would indicate they should be.
Not really
The Devs have already started the JB 10 roms cooking, I think we have some good devs in here, they ave already started the JB 10 roms cooking. I for one would love a full CM9 port with a good camera. I try not to worry what roms the other phones have seeing as I don't have those phones.
Hopefully you guys can get a larger community going. The support for my Sensation has been nothing short of phenomenal. Got ICS super early, already have had JB alphas for a week. The number of ROMs can be overwhelming, and truth be told the support is what keeps me with a phone that is lacking in the hardware department.
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People seem to be forgetting that the reason jelly bean updates are rolling out so quickly is because a lot of the work was done in ICS. And previous to that ICS was a laborious process hampered by the refusal of google to release honeycomb.
This device didn't exist during gingerbread so we didn't have a large base of developers refreshing for a code drop so they could release something for a hungry and eager audience. Also, it's difficult to develop for a device that one doesn't own. The One is still a flagship model and few people own one and even fewer want to brick their new device.
If another six months pass and development hasn't picked up then we might be able to express concern but right now being worried about where the stuff is seems premature to me.
Suddenly and without warning today ... this hypothesis struck me and started to develop (much like an impending thunderstorm). I wonder: What if somehow Apple managed to coerce AT&T into sabotaging the ICS release with the intent of deflating Samsung, just in case their lawsuit didn't work out? In return, AT&T would be thrown a handful of Apple exclusives (since they were so bent out of shape about Apple cheating on them first with Verizon then Sprint; ironically about the same time that the Android lineup REALLY improved at AT&T). Naturally, greedy AT&T would jump at the chance to be Apple's main (excuse me) ***** one more time, right?
I guess this is coming from a place of substantial anger. I'm FURIOUS that the phone I LOVED so much for seven months was basically taken away from me. And there is not a SINGLE official word from either Samsung or AT&T about what I can do about it. So I suppose I can bring the thing back to Best Buy, AGAIN, and recieve another REFURBISHED edition (one that's only 300 IMEI numbers up from the original one), but honestly, I don't have the time or desire to rebuild the damn thing one more time (and then beg the guy at Android Assistant to please let me not have to pay again ... etc. etc. etc.)
I know ... I'm delving deeeeeeep into conspiracy theorism and perhaps I shouldn't play so many video games. BUT, maybe ............ anybody think it makes sense?
PS Thanks for keeping this great and informative site running. It serves as such an amazing resource. The amount of knowledge I've picked up here is invaluable.
WOW. Really?? My phones running great on AOKP JB. Sounds more like user error than a multi-business conspiracy.
JB?
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WOW. Really?? My phones running great on AOKP JB. Sounds more like user error than a multi-business conspiracy.
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Did i miss something and AT&T officially released JB? Because I'm speaking specifically about the official release that AT&T and Samsung sent out to its customers ... you know, the legal way.
Yeah you missed the whole point of this site. lol
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Suddenly and without warning today ... this hypothesis struck me and started to develop (much like an impending thunderstorm). I wonder: What if somehow Apple managed to coerce AT&T into sabotaging the ICS release with the intent of deflating Samsung, just in case their lawsuit didn't work out? In return, AT&T would be thrown a handful of Apple exclusives (since they were so bent out of shape about Apple cheating on them first with Verizon then Sprint; ironically about the same time that the Android lineup REALLY improved at AT&T). Naturally, greedy AT&T would jump at the chance to be Apple's main (excuse me) ***** one more time, right?
I guess this is coming from a place of substantial anger. I'm FURIOUS that the phone I LOVED so much for seven months was basically taken away from me. And there is not a SINGLE official word from either Samsung or AT&T about what I can do about it. So I suppose I can bring the thing back to Best Buy, AGAIN, and recieve another REFURBISHED edition (one that's only 300 IMEI numbers up from the original one), but honestly, I don't have the time or desire to rebuild the damn thing one more time (and then beg the guy at Android Assistant to please let me not have to pay again ... etc. etc. etc.)
I know ... I'm delving deeeeeeep into conspiracy theorism and perhaps I shouldn't play so many video games. BUT, maybe ............ anybody think it makes sense?
PS Thanks for keeping this great and informative site running. It serves as such an amazing resource. The amount of knowledge I've picked up here is invaluable.
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No. Dude these are multibillion dollar companies, they have better **** to deal then playing subterfuge over what would amount to a couple thousand dollars, at the most, lost from annoyed customers
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what do you mean taken away from you? did you mess it up and bricked it or somebody confiscated it from your home?
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Did i miss something and AT&T officially released JB? Because I'm speaking specifically about the official release that AT&T and Samsung sent out to its customers ... you know, the legal way.
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Actually- rooting your phone and using a custom ROM are 100% legal.
Carriers like at&t don't like it, but its legal.
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Lol. If anything AT&T is trying to get away from Apple products. They make more profit selling Android devices.
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Actually- rooting your phone and using a custom ROM are 100% legal.
Carriers like at&t don't like it, but its legal.
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THIS.
All it does is void your warranty. Since it was probably already void for who knows why else among the array of things that could void your warranty, the OP's argument is null and void, and similarly a useless waste of space.
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THIS.
All it does is void your warranty. Since it was probably already void for who knows why else among the array of things that could void your warranty, the OP's argument is null and void, and similarly a useless waste of space.
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What argument? Who's arguing with who? What'd I miss?
And since I didn't really present any facts since it wasn't an argument, per se ... what exactly is your point?
Seems like all you guys want to do is argue ... or troll. Hmmmmmm.
PS the original point was meant to be a funny "get this **** out of my head" thing. Maybe I'll re-evaluate my needs. Can I have my money back, then?
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What argument? Who's arguing with who? What'd I miss?
And since I didn't really present any facts since it wasn't an argument, per se ... what exactly is your point?
Seems like all you guys want to do is argue ... or troll. Hmmmmmm.
PS the original point was meant to be a funny "get this **** out of my head" thing. Maybe I'll re-evaluate my needs. Can I have my money back, then?
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It's who is arguing with whom. Also, I believe the word you were searching for in the thread title is theorist, not theory-ist.
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It's who is arguing with whom. Also, I believe the word you were searching for in the thread title is theorist, not theory-ist.
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I love grammar Nazis! U R the gr8est!
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It's who is arguing with whom. Also, I believe the word you were searching for in the thread title is theorist, not theory-ist.
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That was sweet! ALL HAIL GRAMMAR NAZI! As far as the 'discussion' goes, it should make no difference to you who releases what and when. As it was pointed out, maybe you are missing the point of this arena. Whether you develop, tinker, or just screw around with your phone, the point is this: collectively, we as a group could not care less what the carriers or even manufacturers provide for us in the way of OS updates. We seek out our own, by way of skilled and knowledgeable people who aren't satisfied with the bloatware infested offerings given to us long after the fact. As a member of this forum, you are EXPECTED to have the desire to learn how to make your own way in the android world, albeit with the help of others most of the time.This is a development and learning forum. Regardless of the trolling and/or occasional flaming for the sub-genius among us, you need to want to learn, not wait on the conglomerates to dole out what they want to....my penny and a half.
Hi guys this is my first time posting although I've been reading these forums for quite some time now
First of all i'd like to thank all the devs that work so hard for this phone. We all appreciate it immensely. :good:
Now down to business.
I've started a petition for LG and T-Mobile to release an update for the T-Mobile G2x (LG-P999).
I know this seems pretty useless at this point but hey its better to try then do nothing at all
I'd really appreciate it if everyone here could show there support and spread this around.
Petition: wwwchangeorg/petitions/lg-and-t-mobile-update-the-lg-g2x-lg-p999-to-android-4-x
Please also visit the lg forums and voice your opinion.
supportlgforumcom/lg/topics/g2x_owners_reply_if_you_want_android_4_0_ics_for_our_g2xs
Were bound to get noticed eventually. If it fails at least we kinda tried to put a thorn in LG's side xD
Thanks guys, please no negativity, im just trying to help us all out after all.
(BTW had to remove periods after www, change, support, and lgforum since im noob and can't post links )
There is a difference between negative and realistic. IMHO it would be a waste of time considering nexus 4 and EULA for the g2x.
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There is a difference between negative and realistic. IMHO it would be a waste of time considering nexus 4 and EULA for the g2x.
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I think doing nothing is more of a waste of time. It's really not that hard to just go and comment at least on the lg forums.
If you go to the lg forums you will find a this written by an LG employee:
RyanLG (Official Rep) 4 days ago
"Nope, those are just the crickets from another thread I recently posted. There is not much else to add to this 160+ comment thread that has been of popular topic for the past year. All I can say is the Thrill finally received a software update to fix many of it's previous hardware and software issues. Nobody saw that coming in a million years and what do you know, it happened! And ever since the complaints have subsided substantially about that particular device and the praise for it is at an all time high. I fully understand the complaints and frustration from all the G2X owners, you deserve some sort of resolution. The best thing you can do at this point is let your voice be heard whether it be here, but more so to LG customer support, the carrier or anywhere else. I will escalate this thread to the top with hopes of some sort of resolution. A similar process benefited the Thrill, so who knows."
What he said is what im doing, trying to get people to voice their opinion about the phone.
Also what he said about the LG Thrill gives me some hope.
If you don't wanna sign the petition i understand but at least go to the official lg forums and "complain".
It may be a long shot and will probably never happen but why not try at least, like RyanLG said, "who knows"?
Maybe just maybe if we get a lot of people to show their frustration and support for an upgrade a miracle will happen.
Won't know for sure unless we try is all i'm trying to say :angel:
Also, since development is practically at a stand still what else is there to do?
Rummage through xda forums everyday hoping for something new? x.x
Maybe we can reach out to other developers with lots of experience to look at the radio problem or build Hackfest roms? We basically only have Maz left and we can't expect him to do everything for us.
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Maybe we can reach out to other developers with lots of experience to look at the radio problem or build Hackfest roms? We basically only have Maz left and we can't expect him to do everything for us.
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Maz is put through maintaining a gingerbread kernel on top of a new project that some users wanted, fixing bluetooth calling. There were some other projects maz had set put to do also. Such a nice guy but lets look at this situation realistically. This phone is a 'sunken ship'.
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Maybe we can reach out to other developers with lots of experience to look at the radio problem or build Hackfest roms? We basically only have Maz left and we can't expect him to do everything for us.
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That'd be awesome if we could contact other devs to help with the ril issue. Problem I see there though is that I'm sure many of those devs are working hard on other projects. Plus, the ril issue is something that is really difficult to resolve (if even possible?) and Idk if more devs would even be of help at this point but nonetheless the more devs working on this phone the better.
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Maz is put through maintaining a gingerbread kernel on top of a new project that some users wanted, fixing bluetooth calling. There were some other projects maz had set put to do also. Such a nice guy but lets look at this situation realistically. This phone is a 'sunken ship'.
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I agree maz is super awesome! To me it seems like he's the only dev currently doing anything. Im using his latest beta kernel and my phone is not only snappy but also has awesome battery life so much props to him.
And I have accepted that this phone is a sunken ship but I will never lose hope
The phone is 2 years old at this point in the States. The end of life of the device through T-Mobile was January 2012. The hardware was pretty much a prototype version of the current Tegra 2 platform, and we'll never know the proper way to code for it. The RIL issues will never get fixed, nor did they have a shot to be fixed. If you're still on the device, you're either like me and too poor to afford an upgrade, or somehow stuck in a deal for the phone. If you used an EIP through T-Mo, you can pay it back early instead of monthly and get yourself a new one on the plan.
In the end it comes down to knowing exactly what phones are going to be popular for developers. Nexus devices and the Galaxy line are where you want to be if you want good support. That's where all the action is and will be for some time. The HTC One shows some promise, but with AT&T locking the bootloader, that's one less carrier brand that can be unlocked.
Pick wisely and don't bother with this stuff. Getting your hopes up will only cause you more anger when the truth comes around.
"The hardware was pretty much a prototype version of the current Tegra 2 platform, and we'll never know the proper way to code for it."
Interesting. Are you saying that the entire Optimus 2X line of phones was not based on the Tegra 2 platform used on other phones, but rather an incomplete prototype (probably because they were rushing it to market), or that this is only true for the G2X (aka P999), hence the differences between it and the other models?