Hello,
I've used JumpSPL1.56-KAIS followed by flash-hardSPL to CID unlock my Tilt 8900 (I get the white screen with HardSPL).
My understanding is that I no longer need to CID unlock my device using the above procedure for future ROM's and Radios.
Is that correct?
afgoody said:
Hello,
I've used JumpSPL1.56-KAIS followed by flash-hardSPL to CID unlock my Tilt 8900 (I get the white screen with HardSPL).
My understanding is that I no longer need to CID unlock my device using the above procedure for future ROM's and Radios.
Is that correct?
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if the hardspl flash was successful, then no, you should never have to flash it again to change roms. However, it seems as though your hardspl was not successful if you got the white screen. Go here to make sure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
I've read/used that thread because I was getting the white screen with HardSPL, but it sounds like you're telling me that if I can't get past the white screen when flashing HardSPL, then I have to use JumpSPL1.56-KAIS followed by flash-hardSPL every time I flash a new ROM or radio. Does that sound right?
Here's what my bootloader display shows currently:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
Thanks
afgoody said:
I've read/used that thread because I was getting the white screen with HardSPL, but it sounds like you're telling me that if I can't get past the white screen when flashing HardSPL, then I have to use JumpSPL1.56-KAIS followed by flash-hardSPL every time I flash a new ROM or radio. Does that sound right?
Here's what my bootloader display shows currently:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
Thanks
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if that is what your bootloader shows, you should be good to go.
Is that because it says SPL? (regardless of what come after that).
afgoody said:
Is that because it says SPL? (regardless of what come after that).
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the 1.0olipof is what i was looking for
Great, thanks! I won't run JumpSPL any more!
clever one
This a Very good question afgoody
Just remember that if you have to flash the original boot loader back that you'll need to use the same jumpSPL program again, not the program referenced in the thread about reverting back.
How to tell if HardSPL is already installed
I just purchased and unlocked a tilt and am now using it on Tmobile. I'm now realizing I need to flash my ROM to avoid spening more hours tweaking with work-arounds. I've gathered enough information on the process, but just want to find out if there's a way to find out if the HardSPL has already been installed by the previous owner. If not, then I will just reload. Just thought I might save a step. Cheers!
Power off your Tilt. Press and hold the camera button while you turn it back on. You will see a tri-color screen with some text. Look for SPL-1.0.OliPof.
If you see that line your Tilt has been unlocked. Anything else it isn't. Soft reset to exit the boot loader.
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Ok guys need help.. i just flashed my g4 wizard with the WM6 from faria. It went all the way to 100 percent and said my phone was ready and complete. But for some reason when it rebooted iot just takes me back to the three colored screen and wont boot. What did i do wrong? i did exactly as the intructions said. my ipl is 2.26.0001 and m spl is 2.26.0001 i have a tmobile phone. thanks alot
Did you follow the instructions for a G4? Is it unlocked?
joeyurri said:
Ok guys need help.. i just flashed my g4 wizard with the WM6 from faria. It went all the way to 100 percent and said my phone was ready and complete. But for some reason when it rebooted iot just takes me back to the three colored screen and wont boot. What did i do wrong? i did exactly as the intructions said. my ipl is 2.26.0001 and m spl is 2.26.0001 i have a tmobile phone. thanks alot
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joeyurri said:
Ok guys need help.. i just flashed my g4 wizard with the WM6 from faria. It went all the way to 100 percent and said my phone was ready and complete. But for some reason when it rebooted iot just takes me back to the three colored screen and wont boot. What did i do wrong? i did exactly as the intructions said. my ipl is 2.26.0001 and m spl is 2.26.0001 i have a tmobile phone. thanks alot
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which instructions did you follow?
Did you pay the unlocking website to get your phone CID unlocked? If not then you are most likely not CID unlocked and this is why you failed. You have a G4 device and to my knowledge the only way to CID unlock is by paying.
I folowed faria instructions and i did not pay to have it unlocked. Is it too late to still do that. Is there a way to recover my phone?
joeyurri said:
I folowed faria instructions and i did not pay to have it unlocked. Is it too late to still do that. Is there a way to recover my phone?
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Did you follow the G4 instructions and use the shelltool utility?
We need specifics if you want help.
Honestly no i didnt. I didnt even chech if it was unlocked. Can i still get it unlocked and reflash the ROM?
joeyurri said:
Honestly no i didnt. I didnt even chech if it was unlocked. Can i still get it unlocked and reflash the ROM?
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Not to be mean, but did you read anything before flashing your phone? If you're in the bootloader (tri colored screen) you're not bricked, so that's good. You will need to download and install your stock carriers ROM to save the phone.
BUT HURRY BEFORE YOUR BATTERY DIES!!
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Not to be mean, but did you read anything before flashing your phone? If you're in the bootloader (tri colored screen) you're not bricked, so that's good. You will need to download and install your stock carriers ROM to save the phone.
BUT HURRY BEFORE YOUR BATTERY DIES!!
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I only read the intructions on how to flash it. But next time trust me ill read all the forum. Thanks for your help. Another question my carrier is t-mobile. Where can i find my stock carriers ROM? After I install can i still unlock it first and then istall the WM6?
joeyurri said:
I only read the intructions on how to flash it. But next time trust me ill read all the forum. Thanks for your help. Another question my carrier is t-mobile. Where can i find my stock carriers ROM? After I install can i still unlock it first and then istall the WM6?
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You can download the stock ROM from T-Mobile's website. They may have you run through some hoops to get it. Or you can just use this one...
http://rapidshare.com/files/17792050/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2.rar
Once you've done that, you won't need to unlock your phone to just flash WM6 on it. You will need to read this though...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293480
Take your time and read it carefully. Also, read the Wiki (it has a wealth of information).
TaurusBullba said:
You can download the stock ROM from T-Mobile's website. They may have you run through some hoops to get it. Or you can just use this one...
http://rapidshare.com/files/17792050/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2.rar
Once you've done that, you won't need to unlock your phone to just flash WM6 on it. You will need to read this though...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293480
Take your time and read it carefully. Also, read the Wiki (it has a wealth of information).
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Ok OK
I spoke to T-mobile got the software ran it and the phone is working again. I unlocked the CID and installed the WM6. This time my phone booted but just got a white screen. It ligts up and it makes a beeping sound but just a whie screen. Thanks
joeyurri said:
Ok OK
I spoke to T-mobile got the software ran it and the phone is working again. I unlocked the CID and installed the WM6. This time my phone booted but just got a white screen. It ligts up and it makes a beeping sound but just a whie screen. Thanks
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How did you CID unlock it? There's only one way to do it on a G4, and that's by paying http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ to do it for you.
I have a G4(TMOBILE) as well and it is locked. You can flash to WM6, but you need to do it using Shell tools. Follow the link and read up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293480
Fabe
I followed Dr. Puttingham's thread and Yippie's thread to a tee in addition to reading threads in this forum for a good number of hours each day for two weeks. Yesterday, I became brave enough to downgrade my 2.26 Ipl / 2.26 spl; GSM 2.25.11; OS 2.26.10.2 MDA with a goal to upgrade to a custom WM6 rom with touchflo.
* Started with flashing the button rom then cid unlock with lockwiz2b which looked successful no errors but got a 1.xx IPL / 2.26 SPL since I got a 2.26 SPL then
* flashed the wizard love rom then then cid unlock with lockwiz2b which looked successful also but got the same results - a1.xx IPL / 2.26 SPL again then
* flashed the 2.26 T-mobile rom from the Tmobile website then
* flashed NBD 8.3 only to go back to Tmobile's 2.26 rom - DISAPPOINTED after two hours...............
Any assistance would be appreciated without bricking my MDA. Also, I read the thread on how to install a 2.x rom in a cid locked G3, this method appears a little bid complicated and if I need to move forward with this method, would this method work for any WM6 rom with touchflo and if somebody could simplify the method in layman's terms for newbie's like me could understand, please advice.
Let me know if I missed anything in the process.
Thanks, Technobuff
After u do cid unluck and sim unluck and its reboots do a downgrade again to the button rom and ur ipl and spl will change.(u do not have to re-due the onlucking procedure again)
I tried again performing Dr. Puttingham's CID unlocking process in terms of flashing the button rom then the CID unlock process using Lokowiz2b but while I am at the DOS screen trying to CID unlock my MDA it the DOS screen showed unlocking phone........DO NOT DISCONNECT UNTIL THE PHONE REBBOTS.
This process went on for 5 then 10 then past 30 minutes until I gave up. To be on the safe side I turned off the LAPTOP by taking the battery then pulled the USB cable from the PC to the MDA.
What is the typical timeframe for the unit to CID unlock? Why is is it hanging? Am I missing or skipping the process? How can I complete the process?
Any help would ber greatly appreciated by newbies who read threads.
Technobuff
The problem is that you need to have an IPL/SPL of 1.xx before you try to unlock your phone. CID unlocking will not change your SPL which means that you had an IPL of 1.xx and an SPL of 2.26 before you even tried to unlock. You need to reflash the button ROM over and over until your IPL and SPL both show 1.xx and then run lokiwiz.
dont get your point, i have been using shelltool for ages without any problems and quite a lot custom roms. my SLP/IPL is 3.08.
regards
irm
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if your device doesn't reboot almost at once after the unlock, it probably didn't work. That is what happened to me. Did you get four lines of File cannot be opened or a similar message? I got that from following the 17 steps carefully. What was wrong for me was unzipping to the root directory of C:/. When I redid it to the desktop and executed from there, no problemo.
Your symptoms sound exactly like mine. I posted a longer thread, somewhere....
LH
Ok i did a little booboo and yesterday was using equinoxe's softspl tool by mistake (didn't notice i had a g3), this causes you to actually end up with the exact same os you had before you flashed.
The best advice I can give: Open the Dr's guide and follow every step closely. (also just found this guide. Its a bit simpler http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305225)
Once you CID unlock you should be able to use the RUUs to flash.
Make sure everytime you do any of the steps that dr. putt gives to be comepletely synced to activesync.
Also dont forget to load enablerapi.cab on your wizard.
Also you must use the unlock function before the cid unlock function in lokiwiz.
OH also the unlock will work after your ipl drops to 1.xx After you do the unlocks reflash button to drop the spl to 1.xx Then just flash up to a higher IPL/SPL as the Dr states.
If it seems unorganized im sorry =P
4irm said:
dont get your point, i have been using shelltool for ages without any problems and quite a lot custom roms. my SLP/IPL is 3.08.
regards
irm
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Umm I believe the IPL/SPL of 3.08 means your phone is unlocked... so you really shouldnt need to use shell tool. Some correct me if I'm wrong
slod said:
Umm I believe the IPL/SPL of 3.08 means your phone is unlocked... so you really shouldnt need to use shell tool. Some correct me if I'm wrong
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Just cause you have 3.08 does not mean you are unlocked..you could have upgraded a 2.xx ipl/spl without having downgraded and unlocked first.
thanks. helps me to learn stuff.
CID???
how wil i know if my fone mda vario is CID unlocked?
it is now installed with t-mobile 2.26 ROM
thanks.
rizortiz
famewolf said:
Just cause you have 3.08 does not mean you are unlocked..you could have upgraded a 2.xx ipl/spl without having downgraded and unlocked first.
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right, i installed the latest german t-mobile rom and my device is still locked. the point i made is why the hell does somebody want to downgrade? It doesnt matter if u use the shelltool.
regards
irm
4irm said:
right, i installed the latest german t-mobile rom and my device is still locked. the point i made is why the hell does somebody want to downgrade? It doesnt matter if u use the shelltool.
regards
irm
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Perhaps they want it actually cid unlocked for resale value...or perhaps they prefer the RUU method of installs vs having to use shelltool.
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
.
.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
If you have any of the HARD SPL installed(3.56 from your words).
You can flash any ROM you want.
No need to CID unlock separately.
With Hard SPL, your Device is CID unlocked already.
Your pda doesn't not have hard spl installed on it
Crogon said:
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
.
.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
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I'm sorry to tell you that this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
Is not hard spl and if you pda has hard spl installed is will say this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
I received my replacement Tilt 4 days ago from At&t and it came with WM6.1 and spl 3.56.0000 and you are right I cant find anything to change that spl. I have tried to CID UNlock and I get the white screen, so I tried jump spl 1.56 and 1.93 and neither one of them worked. So now I'm stuck with this 3.56.0000, I sent Jocky a PM and He told me that he was looking in to it and that he will get back to me. So I have to wait. Or maybe someone will read this that has a fix for this issue and help us.
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
BerettaFreak said:
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
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Yes I did all that I'm very familar with the process this is my 5th tilt 2 of them the CID Unlock run just fine and the other 2 I that to run jump 1.56 to get pass the white screen. But for some reason I cant get anything to work on this tilt. I even try to install the OG WM6.0 to try to downgrade the spl but that did work either. Do you have any other suggestions?
IIRC for me to run the CID unlocker program I needed to flash the SPL first.
What is happening when you are trying to run the Jump SPL files? It's just not making sense.
You need to flash Hard SPL 3.29 BEFORE you try to run the unlocker, you can't do 3.56 then try to unlock it. Once its unlocked then flash it with hard 3.56 if you so desire.
Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
BerettaFreak said:
Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
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No what I'm trying to do is CID Unlock my phone but is not working I get the white screen. I have tried everything I know to get pass it. I'm not trying to install hard spl 3.29 or 3.56. I have to CID Unlock my phone first right? That is what I've always done before. I'm out of ideas.
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
BerettaFreak said:
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
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Thank you very much for all your help BerettaFreak you are the man!
Heeey! Did my thread get hijacked?
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
Crogon said:
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
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CID Unlocking is done by installing the Hard SPL, the Hard SPL's don't check the Carrier ID (CID) when flashing new ROM's.
Crogon said:
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
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SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Crogon said:
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
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Just follow all the steps in the Guide by mskip and post and problems you have there. Understanding is not a pre-requisite, with that guide, you can figure out what all the steps do later...
Simply put:
HardSPL / CID Unlock / Super CID - Allows ROM's and Radio's to be flashed.
SIM Unlock - Allows you to use a foriegn SIM card
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
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Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
Crogon said:
Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
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To Security Unlock, just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Then upgrade to HardSPL 3.56 again.
Security Unlocking is done by setting a flag in the NAND. It's permanent (unless you re-lock) and there are no comptability problems once it is set (you need to use a special Hard SPL to set it first though).
EDIT:
There is no list of known bad radio's - only the "Radio from Hell" 1.65.17.10 - but another Radio from hell could appear any day
Ta
Dave
Thanks for clearing that up Dave.
I think I'm going to opt to ignore the security unlock, since it sounds like it's on an 'as needed' basis.
I have 'batter fish to fry' at the moment. I'm grinding gears trying to figure out HOW to figure out which ROMs I should be looking into, in my other thread.
By the by guys, I was joking about the 'hijacked thread' thing, I'm sure somebody will find the info useful.
Just when i though I had this all figured out and was about to Flash my first ROM.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
P.S. On another note, I am using AT&T Tilt with shipped ROM running WM6 pro. I have about 40-50 programs installed on it. When first setting up my phone I did the soft reset which supposedly gets rid of the bloatware. Anyways, with all my programs and it being the stock ROM I still have 62MB free PROGRAM RAM. I do however only have like 30MB Storage RAM. But 62MB of free PROGRAM RAM. I see people with naked ROMS that only get like 55MB of free PROGRAM RAM, is my phone like magic or something? Just curious as to how this may be possible.
asofiker said:
Just when i though I had this all figured out.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
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There is a Hard SPL 1 by pof. Flash that first then follow Jocky's instructions.
Also the OliPro Security unlock isn't permenant, next time you flash a Radio it's gone.
Ta
Dave
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
asofiker said:
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
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Flashing a new SPL overrides the old one.
You said before you were happy with WM6.0, if so use either the pof Hard SPL v1 or the jockyw Hard SPL v1.1 (Part of the security unlock); if you are using WM6.1, use one of the jockyw or cmonex Hard SPL 3.**. Using the wrong version won't break your phone, but Windows will randomly freeze.
Ta
Dave
Thanks again Dave for helpin me out and not tearing me a new one. But just one last question.
If I find a new ROM that I want to Flash and it uses WM6.1 then I have to make sure that I flash a HardSPL 3.xx before flashing that new ROM, is that what ur saying?
i got elfin and i want to ask if it is any way to flash rom in bootloader mode,i want just to got my htc working again and my device is stucked at bootloader showing in right top corner RUU and on left IPL And SPL numbers.
ms2405 said:
i got elfin and i want to ask if it is any way to flash rom in bootloader mode,i want just to got my htc working again and my device is stucked at bootloader showing in right top corner RUU and on left IPL And SPL numbers.
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hey, i just took a brief look in the elfin section. Go there and look at the stickies, there are guides for un bricking yoiur elfin and a good guide on how to correctly hardspl and flash....DO READ THEM (and you normally should flash a rom from bootloader in any case )
If you dont want to hardspl, then try the uspl way. You didnt say what rom you had tried to flash or wot you have done to get it stuck in bootloader.
Also are you using vista or xp on your computer?
i'm using xp on my comp,i got to bootloader because i tried to flash some roms and when i tried last time flashing onyx one it showed me error message and then started the problem.
ok, did u hard-spl sucessfully? what is you ips/spl shown on bootloader?
IPL is 2.26.0002
SPL is 2.26.0000 and as i said in right top corner RUU,
i've tried to flash it from sd card,but it ain't worked andlooked at goldcard method and i haven't got another winmo devic and don't know somebody who has,please help me to unbrick my phone,it was both from orange uk.
ms2405 said:
IPL is 2.26.0002
SPL is 2.26.0000 and as i said in right top corner RUU,
i've tried to flash it from sd card,but it ain't worked andlooked at goldcard method and i haven't got another winmo devic and don't know somebody who has,please help me to unbrick my phone,it was both from orange uk.
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Please have a look at post 3 from here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408637
Is this what you have tried doing previously?
Did you unlock your elfin first if it is locked on orange network?
If you cant get it working after trying this, go back to first link above and flash back an original stock rom, at least ur device will be working again!!
ps when u hardspl and tried to flash, did u disable antivirus on PC, and disconnect all other non essential usb devices? This is an commen cause of bad flashes, also try other usb ports, 2 of mine i cant flash on, 2 i can (which is wierd) - (i have experienced this myself).
If any of this doesnt help, as for help in the elfin section, but DO describe all your steps properly and fully and enclose links of roms tried etc so someone with an elfin can see what you have donw and save unnecassary posts etc.
mate,the link you gave me is that when i upgraded my elfin when it was working, i don't know what you mean about unlocked it is sim unlocked what about cid i really don't have idea,because i couldn't connect to mtty,please can you give me the link for original stock rom for my elfin,because i haven't done backup and i downloaded one but i don't know how to put in when i got in bootloader only and can't connect acivesync please tell me how to this aswell,PLEASE HELP ME UNBRICK MY ELFIN!!
Have you resolved this?
Search and download a stock rom from HTC or from here, use the search and wiki, you will find one there.
When you plug in ur elfin into the computer and put it in bootloader, do you see "USB" on the screen along with ur ipl and spl?
You should, and if you do you should be able to flash the stock rom on.
Hi
I've a quite big problem that occured form my stupidy.
I wanted to unlock the phon and get rid of simlock.
I've read the wiki and start playing with kaiser. I forgot to run the HardSpl and go just to KaiserUnlocker. First step was ok 100% reboot, second step - 100% rebot splashscreen 1, splashscreen 2 without sound and after that black screen.
AS is not turning green, screen is black, buttons doesn't work.
I've done HR and after that i fought it's ok there was a splashscreen with windows mobile, algin the screen, time etc. and after that the OS is automatically upgraded by some files from AT&T. After upgrade there is splash 1 with AT&T logo splash 2 with another AT&T logo and nothing more - black screen again.
Before my playing time I had WM 6.0 Prof from AT&T, R 1.27.12.11
Now when I'm entering the bootloader I've
on the top "Security Unlocked"
on red stripe KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
What can I do now?
miffalek said:
Hi
I've a quite big problem that occured form my stupidy.
I wanted to unlock the phon and get rid of simlock.
I've read the wiki and start playing with kaiser. I forgot to run the HardSpl and go just to KaiserUnlocker. First step was ok 100% reboot, second step - 100% rebot splashscreen 1, splashscreen 2 without sound and after that black screen.
AS is not turning green, screen is black, buttons doesn't work.
I've done HR and after that i fought it's ok there was a splashscreen with windows mobile, algin the screen, time etc. and after that the OS is automatically upgraded by some files from AT&T. After upgrade there is splash 1 with AT&T logo splash 2 with another AT&T logo and nothing more - black screen again.
Before my playing time I had WM 6.0 Prof from AT&T, R 1.27.12.11
Now when I'm entering the bootloader I've
on the top "Security Unlocked"
on red stripe KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
What can I do now?
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Run the ATT updater from HERE it "SHOULD" Put you back to stock. Then run the hard SPL and try unlocker again. I have found that I needed to upgrade to 6.1 before the unlocker would work. Hope this helps
Great thx but how should I do that, kaiser is not conectg with PC througth AC.
miffalek said:
Great thx but how should I do that, kaiser is not conectg with PC througth AC.
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Hold the camera button when you turn it on. That will take you into bootloader. I am not sure if this will help for sure but it is worth a shot
Oooo it's a ROM i connect via USB and run just the exe
miffalek said:
Oooo it's a ROM i connect via USB and run just the exe
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Yes it is the att 6.1 update stock rom.
Or use SD card method. But you need to read WiKi for that...
Best will be to "update" to 6.0, flash HardSPL 1.0 from Olipof, flash older HTC ROM (by HTC, not ATT) repacked (with OS only, no radio or SPL) and then unlock, because newer AT&T 6.0 ROM doesn't work with the radio from SIM unlocker.
The same happened to my friend
Ok so which ROM do you suggest?
I've looked at Wiki at Kaiser_ROMs and there is planty of them
I can try every on of them but from recent 'trying' I have only problems now
I've tried the solution send by zelendel with WM 6.1 it's runing up but there was alsow a customization and I runs it works thanks a lot Now HARDSPL as first
miffalek said:
I've tried the solution send by zelendel with WM 6.1 it's runing up but there was alsow a customization and I runs it works thanks a lot Now HARDSPL as first
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Yeah that was all the AT&T crap. Let us know how things go.
Ok
Phone is unlocked but I've another problem after putting the sim card the phone runs fine for few seconds and then it stops, the vibrations is on all the time and camera isn't working at all and there is no sound (black screen).
Is it one more time OS?
I've instaled WM 6.1 AT&T
miffalek said:
Ok
Phone is unlocked but I've another problem after putting the sim card the phone runs fine for few seconds and then it stops, the vibrations is on all the time and camera isn't working at all (black screen).
Is it one more time OS?
I've instaled WM 6.1 AT&T
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Ok now that you have a hard spl install What radio and spl do you have? The radio is your camera prob. I would pick a custom rom and flash it with the prefered set and see how that goes.
So, with the first rom - WM6.0 it showed 1.27.12.11 then I flashed device and it was 1.70.olinex, another flash the WM6.1 and it was 1.65.21.18 and now after hardspl it is showing again 1.70.olinex
It's from the splash1 with the R in front, am I correct ?
Hi
One question more I've a problem with signal I don't loos it but it's weak - one or two lines in the middle of city. I switched to HTC original OS WM6.1 radio is 1.65.16.25. Should I switch the radio ?? If yes which one will be the best ?
Regards
miffalek said:
Hi
One question more I've a problem with signal I don't loos it but it's weak - one or two lines in the middle of city. I switched to HTC original OS WM6.1 radio is 1.65.16.25. Should I switch the radio ?? If yes which one will be the best ?
Regards
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The right radio is such a subjective combination of variables, that no one call tell you which is the best for you. Just go to the Ultimate Radio thread and try a bunch of 6.1 compatible radios until you find on to stick with.
Start with the radio that is recommended for the rom that you are using and then try radios that are in other peoples signatures.