Hi everyone,
I have a refurbished ATT TILT (my 4th TILT), and the warranty is over, so I would like to entertain the idea of flashing some cooked roms to my phone. There are so many posts about the ROMS and how to do it and I just have a few questions:
1. What is the best ROM to use on a locked ATT TILT? I have not unlocked my TILT and don't really have a need to, so what are my options for a good ROM to use (NON ATT).
2. What software is best to use to flash a ROM from Windows Vista? I've seen several tools available and would like to know what the different opinions are on which one to use.
3. Is there anything else I should know about flashing a cooked ROM on a locked ATT TILT? I'm new at this so any advice would be helpful.
Thanks
Best I can tell you is read these threads even if they don't pertain to you at the moment and read the stickies and the wiki listed at the top. tells you everything, from what is a good radio to flash to what rom, what apps, etc. all there for the taking!
Absorb! absorb like a sponge!
thisbejoe77 said:
Hi everyone,
I have a refurbished ATT TILT (my 4th TILT), and the warranty is over, so I would like to entertain the idea of flashing some cooked roms to my phone. There are so many posts about the ROMS and how to do it and I just have a few questions:
1. What is the best ROM to use on a locked ATT TILT? I have not unlocked my TILT and don't really have a need to, so what are my options for a good ROM to use (NON ATT).
2. What software is best to use to flash a ROM from Windows Vista? I've seen several tools available and would like to know what the different opinions are on which one to use.
3. Is there anything else I should know about flashing a cooked ROM on a locked ATT TILT? I'm new at this so any advice would be helpful.
Thanks
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It's all about taste, check every link that has a ROM and look into the screenshots, all the ROMS on this section works on your tilt of course you have to install HardSpl first. Check also this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362987
#1 is use hard spl (as they said above)
#2 verify the radio you have is compatable with whatever ROM you choose.
i just installed dutty's v4 with radio 1.27.12.11 and the ROM is great. the different radio ver (i had 14.09 before i think) is much much better as well. I'm almost 2x better reception with the radio (or its all in my head LOL)
as a noob to this site myself i can understand you are overwhelmed, but take a day or so and READ all you can; including how to recover from a bad flash (read: hard button combo for boot loader) and some issues ppl have with certian rom's.
good luck!
Read the stickies...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
I am new, recieved my Tilt 3 days ago and have flashed 2 roms already. It is really easy once you understand the basic steps.
1) Flash HardSPL (mine went to the solid white screen, it freaked me out but the sticky that has the fix works and is easy to do).
2)Choose your ROM, if you have AT&T, I suggest you look at one that has an AT&T version, it takes care of alot of the manual setup for you. (Alex's and Q-MObile have AT&T versions) I am using Q-Mobile 1.2 and am loving it.
3)Add any extras you want. So far I have added GoogleMaps, HTC Home, TotalCommander (registry editor).
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Any advice? I am new to this whole thing. Have done some overclocking and what not on my PC, but this is a whole different game.
What types of things can I do without risking really f'ing things up?
What I hope is the simplest things I was hoping to do was to make my TILT screen look like the HTC Touch.
I thought about downloading Dutty's tweaks, but I am thinking I might be out of my depth starting out.
I would like to learn some things, but don't want to annoy the veterans that are here. Any direction would be appreciated.
Thank you.
What you could do is read, all the post people have put to do exactly what your asking. All the info is there you just need to search and read or use the wiki.
Have fun
-McMex
Thank you.
Download and run HardSPL on your phone from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Then choose a dutty rom to install, since you are on a tilt try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345385&highlight=dutty+tilt
This is all you have to do to have a fully functional htc looking rom with the touchflo cube with the newest drivers and radio for AT&T. I am using this one on mine right now. This rom has everything that you will probably need already installed. Anything else will just be for personal preferences. This rom has an advanced config program which is great but also download kaisertweak for some nice settings.
Thanks for keeping it simple for the newb. I read a couple of things about the "radio" portion being an issue. What does the "radio" tweak mean and will a HARD RESET fix problems if I decide to revert back?
decimusmaximus7 said:
Download and run HardSPL on your phone from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Then choose a dutty rom to install, since you are on a tilt try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345385&highlight=dutty+tilt
This is all you have to do to have a fully functional htc looking rom with the touchflo cube with the newest drivers and radio for AT&T. I am using this one on mine right now. This rom has everything that you will probably need already installed. Anything else will just be for personal preferences. This rom has an advanced config program which is great but also download kaisertweak for some nice settings.
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The radio that comes with this rom will be the one you need. A hard reset only reinstalls the rom you currently have on the phone so to revert back you will have to choose another rom and install it. As long as the rom you install is an AT&T one or one made for the tilt then you won't have to do anything with the radio. If you change and use an HTC ship rom or one of dutty's other roms then you will have to download another radio and install it. Radios self install the same way as roms do.
This is the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
On this page is the link to the ftp area where you could download the older radio if you decided to go to a non tilt rom.
Did you have any keyboard problems when doing the HARDSPL and installing the dutty rom. Also, which of the dutty roms did you install? Beta 2?
I am still on the Beta 1 and have been too lazy to changeover yet as Beta 1 is solid.
If you really want a good "How To" check out Mr. Van X:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php...ask=view&id=65&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=0
Every place he says "Hermes" you just think "Kaiser" or "Tilt". All the steps are the same. It is a great walk-through. He has you download the .net framework first. I know I didn't have it. Then he steps you through hardSPL and finally the ROM.
A few weeks ago I followed this exactly and have never had any troubles. Why a walk-through like this is not in the Wiki for the Kaiser/Tilt I have no idea. It'd be a lot more helpful to newbs (like myself) than the forum fav response, "Read Dammit".
Augster said:
It'd be a lot more helpful to newbs (like myself) than the forum fav response, "Read Dammit".
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Why don't you write an entry for the wiki? That's how the Wiki is updated and maintained, by contributions by everyone.
afavre said:
Any advice? I am new to this whole thing. Have done some overclocking and what not on my PC, but this is a whole different game.
What types of things can I do without risking really f'ing things up?
What I hope is the simplest things I was hoping to do was to make my TILT screen look like the HTC Touch.
I thought about downloading Dutty's tweaks, but I am thinking I might be out of my depth starting out.
I would like to learn some things, but don't want to annoy the veterans that are here. Any direction would be appreciated.
Thank you.
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I just used HardSPL and Dutty's Hybrid Rom No 5. I'm not sure what the difference is from his Tilt Beta version but I tried both and decided to go with the Hybrid. Point is, until last night I did not know what a Rom was. I read the forum and followed the directions. Here are links to what I used.
HardSPL (you need to do this first). Everything you need to know is in the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Then find a ROM. I downloaded several including the stock ATT rom just in case I decided to go back. The steps for loading a ROM are almost the same as HardSPL, just follow the directions on the screen.
This is a link to Dutty's Tilt Beta ROM (all you need is the link to the ROM at the bottom of the first post). If you want to try Dutty's Hybrid ROM, scroll to the 3rd post made by username "alltheway" and click on the red Hybrid No 5 Rom link in his signature block.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345385
It is very simple to do.
Do I need to SIM Unlock?
I have been reading through the posts, and I can't find if I must SIM lock my phone before trying to install Dutty's ROM. On my 8125 the general concensus was unlock both. I don't have any need to run other radio's on my phone, and I won't be traveling out of the US.
Also I am currently running SPB Pocket Plus 4.01. Should I do a hard reset before trying to CID unlock and load of new rom?
ShinySideUpAZ said:
I have been reading through the posts, and I can't find if I must SIM lock my phone before trying to install Dutty's ROM. On my 8125 the general concensus was unlock both. I don't have any need to run other radio's on my phone, and I won't be traveling out of the US.
Also I am currently running SPB Pocket Plus 4.01. Should I do a hard reset before trying to CID unlock and load of new rom?
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No you do not
hey Guyz. I have a Tilt that a customer gave me that got bricked while trying to flash one of dutty's roms...Problem is that the genius didn't load up Hard SPL even tho he told me that he did...now He wants me to fix it...even tho he didn't follow my instructions and read the WiKi...I kno that on the Hermes it was able to be unbricked. Is the same for the Kaiser possible? I would greatly appreciate your help as my customers are loving the work you guyz do here in nyc..
Thanks in Advance!
Cristian
What is the current status of the phone?
Can you get into the bootloader at all?
If you can get to the bootloader you should be able to load the AT&T AKU v0.4.4 ROM (the unoffical upgraded AT&T ROM). Once you get that loaded you should flash HardSPL immediately.
Let me know how it goes...
Cheers.
I bricked my tilt when it was less than 24 hours old... I recovered it with a BETA of the ATT rom and THEN redoing the hardspl thingy - worked a treat.
Do a search for tolt bricked and you should find afew threads for it.
The rom is called something like RUU_Kaiser_ATT_WWE....._Internal.exe
It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!
HTCFAN0923 said:
It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!
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If you are at the bootloader screen (Tri-Color) then the phone is not bricked. In the sticky at the top on how to revert back for warranty replacement, it has links for the various roms. Just flash an official AT&T rom on it and you should be good to go. Then do the HardSPL.
Cool that you work for AT&T and hang out here! If you have any other warranty returns, I can give you my address as I wouldn't mind having a backup or two...
BTW: The AT&T ROM for the Tilt is actually quite good in the big picture of things. At least the phone is usable (slower than it should be and less memory than it should have, but its still very usable and stable on the official rom). If you want to ***** about official roms, go back to the 8125 and its official rom. The while the device (at the time) was great, that rom made the phone almost worthless (super slow, battery problems, bad radio, dropped calls, freezing, etc). I can't tell you how many people that run custom roms on the Wizard just can't believe what that phone is actually capable of.
Ok, sorry, got off topic there...
does Hard-SPL needs to be flashed just once on a device or does it need to be installed every tome a new ROM is going to be Flashed onto it?
mfrazzz said:
If you are at the bootloader screen (Tri-Color) then the phone is not bricked. In the sticky at the top on how to revert back for warranty replacement, it has links for the various roms. Just flash an official AT&T rom on it and you should be good to go. Then do the HardSPL.
Cool that you work for AT&T and hang out here! If you have any other warranty returns, I can give you my address as I wouldn't mind having a backup or two...
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For some reason, it's not being recognized by my Activesync. I got it to recognize it but now it sayz Error 294: Invalid Vendor ID...I'm using the RUU_Cingular_WWE Rom for the Kaiser...so I'm flabbergasted at this point...
Quick Silver said:
does Hard-SPL needs to be flashed just once on a device or does it need to be installed every tome a new ROM is going to be Flashed onto it?
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Only once! Than you can flash as much as you like!
HTCFAN0923 said:
For some reason, it's not being recognized by my Activesync. I got it to recognize it but now it sayz Error 294: Invalid Vendor ID...I'm using the RUU_Cingular_WWE Rom for the Kaiser...so I'm flabbergasted at this point...
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ActiveSync will not recognize your device when in BootLoader mode!
The Vendor ID error means the ROM cannot be loaded on the Tilt without HardSPL. You need an original Tilt ROM. (That's what I think about this)
HTCFAN0923 said:
It goes to the Tri-Color Screen but stays there..I'll go ahead and research it so I can find the original AT&T and load it up...It shows a lot..workin for at&t and being a member on xda...U guyz have no idea how ya make life easier for my tilt customers b/c at&t truly dropped the ball on the rom...and by offering alternatives..u make the user experience so much better...thanks!
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Oddly enough the "Original" Tilt ROM will not install on a Tilt that does not already have HardSPL on it (to spell it out for you, the CID of the ROM does not match the Tilt's stock SPL). If you check the "reverting back" sticky you'll find all this info already, though it is deep in the thread.
The AKU v.0.4.4 ATT Beta ROM does have the correct CID and will flash on a stock Tilt. SO that is what you are forced to resort to at this point. Once you get the beta ROM installed you can (and probably should) install HardSPL.
After all that, if you decide you want to return or warranty the phone follow the "revert" thread to restore it to "stock" form.
Some additional notes on your problem...
ActiveSync will not connect in Bootloader mode (this is expected). You should see a device show up in Device Manager however, I can't recall the exact description however.
quick flash procedure:
put phone in bootloader
connect usb cable
install ROM
FYI, the problem may not be a bricked tilt... you could try Pof's fix which involves using MTTY.exe to boot the phone, depending on how your "customer" tried to flash it it may just need a kick in the pants to restore it. (search Pof's SSPL for the Kaiser thread for instructions, the thread was closed so you will have to look deep).
<climbing on my soapbox>
Lastly... your use of the word "customer" concerns me... are you charging people for the work you do to their phones? If so, do you donate to the people who make it possible? I'm probably just misunderstanding you, but if you're profiting from others work, perhaps you should contribute (especially if you're coming here to ask for help).
</climbing down>
Good Luck!
Cheers.
Customers as in I work for an AT&T corporate owned Retail location and they have bought Tilts from me. They kno my Tilt has been modded and they usually want to do the same. I don't charge them for doing mods to their Tilts. This still remains a community where we help each other and I cherish that. Greed has no place here.
as far as ur suggestions...It looks like I'm gonna be drunk @ 4am on XDA tonite...lol...
HTCFAN0923 said:
Customers as in I work for an AT&T corporate owned Retail location and they have bought Tilts from me. They kno my Tilt has been modded and they usually want to do the same. I don't charge them for doing mods to their Tilts. This still remains a community where we help each other and I cherish that. Greed has no place here.
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That's cool... my misunderstanding then. Hopefully no hard feelings .
All in all it sounds like the guy wants a custom ROM so you should probably get the ATT Beta ROM and install that. And then install HardSPL.
Check Kyphur's second post in the thread below for the ROM you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343198
Thanks for the info sycho...I'll get to it after work..
Good news! The AKU 0.33 worked! Thanks for ur help sycho!
how can i re-install the window? at tilt 8925
i have wm6.1
i want to reset it so the error message shud gone like Recover ?
@kaal,
It seems what you want to do is a HARD RESET. Please visit Kaiser Wiki and read through. You'll know your phone better that way.
@HTCFan & Sirsycho, Glad you both sort it out in the community spirit Cheers!
sirsycho said:
Oddly enough the "Original" Tilt ROM will not install on a Tilt that does not already have HardSPL on it (to spell it out for you, the CID of the ROM does not match the Tilt's stock SPL). If you check the "reverting back" sticky you'll find all this info already, though it is deep in the thread.
The AKU v.0.4.4 ATT Beta ROM does have the correct CID and will flash on a stock Tilt. SO that is what you are forced to resort to at this point. Once you get the beta ROM installed you can (and probably should) install HardSPL.
After all that, if you decide you want to return or warranty the phone follow the "revert" thread to restore it to "stock" form.
Some additional notes on your problem...
ActiveSync will not connect in Bootloader mode (this is expected). You should see a device show up in Device Manager however, I can't recall the exact description however.
quick flash procedure:
put phone in bootloader
connect usb cable
install ROM
FYI, the problem may not be a bricked tilt... you could try Pof's fix which involves using MTTY.exe to boot the phone, depending on how your "customer" tried to flash it it may just need a kick in the pants to restore it. (search Pof's SSPL for the Kaiser thread for instructions, the thread was closed so you will have to look deep).
<climbing on my soapbox>
Lastly... your use of the word "customer" concerns me... are you charging people for the work you do to their phones? If so, do you donate to the people who make it possible? I'm probably just misunderstanding you, but if you're profiting from others work, perhaps you should contribute (especially if you're coming here to ask for help).
</climbing down>
Good Luck!
Cheers.
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Because of you folks and this thread, I have a working device as opposed to a paperweight...Thanks!!!
noob question, sorry but this is my first ever flash and im confidant i can do it
basically i want to unlock my phone to work with other sim cards im on orange uk stock rom but i want to use other sim cards, even if its just to check ones i find around my house
i picked up instructions from here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
in this it tells me i need to flash the phone with the radio again once i finished but ive checked threads and theres only htc roms and atnt roms and cooked ones
ihave rom version 1.81.61.2 wwe adn radio 1.27.14.32
What rom do you want? you can use a cooked rom just fine with your phone.... Or you could used the generic HTC rom.
Did you register for the HTC club? if your phone is HTC branded you can usually download roms right from there.
double posting you should be ashamed of yourself
Yeah, you really should be flammed... Cause I commented on the other post too...
jayjay8585 said:
... in this it tells me i need to flash the phone with the radio again once i finished but ive checked threads and theres only htc roms and atnt roms and cooked ones ..
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This is because the 'unlocking' process is specific to a particular ROM i.e. install a ROM that can be unlocked, then replace the 'unlock-ROM' with the original ROM or one of your own.
Not all ROMs are available, so searching for a copy of your original ROM to re-install is beneficial if you wish to keep the original on your phone (warranty etc blah blah blah).
PS. There is nothing wrong with the 'unlock-ROM' if you wish to keep it on the phone.
i should ashamed but im not, since this post has slight differences to the one in geberal and besides i needed a fast answer and theres more people here
jayjay8585 said:
i should ashamed but im not, since this post has slight differences to the one in geberal and besides i needed a fast answer and theres more people here
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just follow the instructions to unlock the phone ( by flashing the patched radio) then once it is unlocked flash a different ROM. ( Dutty's or the new Throttle ROM, best one so far. Looks COOL!!! and runs great too.......lol ) Once you step away from the HTC ROMS the Kaiser is in a world of its own. So much better with a cooked ROM compared to a branded one. No contest....
yeah but i cant find my radio anywhere its 1.27.14.32 and now spl wont flash
jayjay8585 said:
yeah but i cant find my radio anywhere its 1.27.14.32 and now spl wont flash
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just flash a newer radio after you unlock. Should work OK...... a lot of the cooked ROM's have preffered radios anyway.
The way I did it:- First flash HardSPL, then unlock phone using instructions, after complete decide which cooked ROM to flash and its corresponding preferred radio. The result: works like a charm, no problems....
see that the thing ive done my device just the wae i want but the sim unlocker needs my origional radio and i cant get it
and now my hard spl wont work after the dos bit does its business in loads up kaisercustom ruu or summit and this nees an activsync connection but the stepss on the first part of the hardspl thingy render the phone in bottloader and the activsync icon grey
I have an AT&T Tilt and would like to flash the firmware to the HyperDragon III which can be found in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121
Following the directions in the TILT Specific Wiki, I flashed the HardSPL which was version 1.57.502.2. This was the file listed in the thread for the TILT.
Checking out the other threads in this forum, it looks like there are now HardSPL version in the 3 range like 3.07 3.28 3.29.
I'm confused if the file listed on the TILT Wiki was correct or if I actually need a different HardSPL file.
My other question is about Radio. I have read all the information about making sure that the radio on my phone will work with the rom that I would like to install.
What I cant seem to find though is how to check what radio my phone is currently using ?
Any help on this would be appreciated.
I know that answers are probably in the forum somewhere I just can't seem to find the right search string to pull it up.
Use the HardSPL found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (this is a sticky on the ROM dev page).
Here is a guide for Radios: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 - basically flash a radio onto your device and test it out. Different radios will give you better/worse battery life, affect connectivity, GPS, and the like. Performance varies by region and what ROM you have installed.
Here is another link you may find useful: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Hope this helps.
So the newer versions of the HardSPL have the same benefits as the one I installed said it did ? Such as being able to go back to older, original roms and helping to protect against bricking ?
QuantamPulse said:
So the newer versions of the HardSPL have the same benefits as the one I installed said it did ? Such as being able to go back to older, original roms and helping to protect against bricking ?
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The 3.* versions of Hard Spl do the same as the 1.* versions - they allow you to flash cooked Roms. The 3.* have better compatability with WM6.1 than the 1.* versions, thats all.
Ta
Dave
Another question, I am trying to flash the new 3.56 HardSPL before installing the new Rom.
Do I need to use the SoftSPL even though I already have the 1.5x HardSPL installed or can I just run the update like normal.
Also, when trying to run the update like normal using the KaiserCustom RUU File, I run through the wizard and after getting my phone information it correctly shows that I currently have 1.5x, however it says that I will be updating to 1.00.000.0
Is this normal ? Or should it actually show that it is updating to 3.56 ?
yes thats normal one quick thing search for jockeys security unlocker that has saved many headaches
youtube solution
Hi, the youtube video below walks you through it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezZ-2lHi3T8&NR=1
OK. I have a noob question that I couldn't find the answer for. I googled and searched the site. I've read quite a few of the threads here as well.
I'm coming to the Fuze from the 8525/Hermes. Now with that, I had to flash a stock ROM prior to every custom ROM. Is it that way with the Fuze as well?
Also, I understand that I need the HardSPL prior to flashing a custom ROM, but if I don't need the go off ATT, I really don't need super CID do I? There's no ExtROM with the Fuze?
Is there also a danger of bricking my Fuze be flashing too many radio ROMs, experimenting like there is with the Hermes/8525?
Again, thanks for your time.
I can't wait to start flashing my new toy.
Jim
You need to HardSPL the Fuze before flashing any ROMs. I don't have any experience with the 8525 so can't relate to what you had to do. I did have the Tilt and I had to do the same thing on the Tilt - flash a HardSPL before flashing ROMs.
You also don't need to flash a stock ROM prior to flashing a cooked ROM. Just flash straight and you're fine.
ecltech said:
You need to HardSPL the Fuze before flashing any ROMs. I don't have any experience with the 8525 so can't relate to what you had to do. I did have the Tilt and I had to do the same thing on the Tilt - flash a HardSPL before flashing ROMs.
You also don't need to flash a stock ROM prior to flashing a cooked ROM. Just flash straight and you're fine.
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Thanks.
Just wanted to make sure so I don't brick my phone.
The thing about flashing stock ROM was going from Big Storage to Non Big Storage. I even had a stripped stock ATT ROM with no radio because the Hermes board reported bricks from repeatedly flashing radios.
Thank and again, sorry for the noob question.
Jim
Correct, you needed to flash the Hermes with a stock rom when switching between a big storage and non big storage rom. You won't have that issue with the Raphael.
Its a rule of thumb to flash with the stock rom before another custom, just so you are sure nothing is left behind. Although, by the way some of us flash, theres not that much time to do this.
I believe someone on the tilt forums explained all this in a thread about how the circuitry worked and how flashing will do to it. There isn't an exact number on how many times you can flash it, but just like any other device, the more the use, it will die down sometime. I believe that number in the thousands, but who knows if someone flashes that many times.