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This study confirmed what I believed all along for a lot of Android apps, they have bugs or just inefficient code in them that drains the battery when it shouldn't. I hope Google, the developers of AOKP, CyanogenMod, & others focus more on this issue. A lot of custom ROMs & kernels introduce problems too. Sure we can all just slap on after-market batteries, but I prefer to not carry a brick in my pocket.
http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/research/2012/120613HuSmartphoneBugs.html
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Despite their immense popularity in recent years, smartphones are, and will remain, severely limited by their battery life. Preserving this critical resource has driven smartphone OSes to undergo a paradigm shift in power management: by default every component, including the CPU, stays off or in an idle state, unless the app explicitly instructs the OS to keep it on. Such a policy encumbers app developers to explicitly juggle power control APIs exported by the OS to keep the components on during their active use by the app and off otherwise. The resulting power-encumbered programming unavoidably gives rise to a new class of software energy bugs on smartphones called no-sleep bugs, which arise from mishandling power control APIs by apps or the framework and result in signi?cant and unexpected battery drainage. This paper makes the ?rst advances towards understanding and automatically detecting software energy bugs on smartphones. It makes the following three contributions: (1) We present the ?rst comprehensive study of real-world no-sleep energy bug characteristics; (2) We propose the ?rst automatic solution to detect these bugs based on the classic reaching de?nitions data?ow analysis algorithm; (3) We provide experimental data showing that our tool accurately detected all 12 known instances of no-sleep bugs and found 30 new bugs in the 86 apps examined.
Hey Whyzor! Why so serious??
Have you lost your Optimus V and moved on to bigger and better phones?
Nice to see you're still geekin' it up.
BTW, what's this tool this article is alluding to?
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Hey Whyzor! Why so serious??
Have you lost your Optimus V and moved on to bigger and better phones?
Nice to see you're still geekin' it up.
BTW, what's this tool this article is alluding to?
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Hey, I was just posting something I came upon in my RSS feeds today, thought I'd share. When I was more active in the dev community, if you remember, phantom battery drains was one of my pet peeves. These days I'm just using a debloated stock-ish ROM on HTC Sensation w/ TMobile prepaid. VM was good while it lasted, but I needed better phone selections & data speeds.
As for the tool, I'm guessing it's in the full research paper or some further digging is needed. They probably will release it to the public domain eventually.
Lol I thought you'd written the paper at first
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Hi
I'm looking for a replacement for my n7000 which I have been using since begin 2012. I'm tired of it sipping through the battery while idle (kernel wakelock l2_hsic), couldn't find how to fix it and it has already killed 4 batteries.
I'm looking for a decent and reliable phone, which doesn't have separate modem like the exynos in the note (which I suspect is the main battery killer). It doesn't have to be 5"+ unless its battery lasts at least 6 hours with screen on. It should have a microSD card slot. It should preferrably also have enough RAM (at least 1,5GB).
I need root, and possibly cyanogenmod or any other custom rom that is stable and removes all the bloat and should run stable without feature crippling (e.g. camera flash not working etc.). The phone should be able to run GPS navigation for a few hours (hooked up to charger of course) without issues.
I'm now using the zte skate and apart from the low RAM and slower single core CPU, this is a phone that just works fine and doesn't make me wonder if it will last through the day.
I'm wondering if what I want is too much to ask, and if there is any android device on the market now which complies to my needs.
Thanks!
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 2, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 2 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
well made phone, doesn't feel flimsy. SD810 doesn't seem to have the heat issues, screen could be a little better outside, battery life is great, the notification slider on the side is brilliant idea. Oxygen OS by itself sucks but with Xposed and several modules made the phone tons better.
Nice nice phone. I don't regret it!
Battery
Battery standby is extreme long. Tested it: in 12hours lost 3%. (Wi-Fi and Mobile Network was permamently active in my test)
But the active display standby is ~~~ lame.
Its got bit warm than my one+1 but it's ok.
Chasis/Design
The Chasis of phone is real AlMg. You can brake someones nose with that (not tested! )
It feels good in my hands, a bit heavier than one+1
Buyed with Kevlar StyleSwap Cover. Too bad, it's not fitting perfectly but it sit.
Sound
Speakers are louder than my laptop speakers. Clear Sound, no scratches heared.
Speed test and stability
Fast app start, smooth scrolling, switches fast between the apps.
Antutu Benchmark test:
Test run fine with over 55fps average.
With fully installed apps, games, tools etc..
Benchmark result: >58000
Camera/Video
Photo quality is very good. Takes pictures faster as one+1 and in good quality. nothing to say negative about it.
Videos are in good quality too. You can take slow-motion videos too (720p with 120fps)
SD Card
It's a bit faster as in one+1!
~3451MB (28183 files) Recovery backup done in 74 sec.
64MB/s Read/Write speed.
For a phone with 64GB internal memory it's enough speed.
Well. That's all importand tests i have done. If i have missed something, write it down here. i try to answer.
EDIT:
Very easy to unlock bootloader. Same way as in one+1.
Done it in under 5 minutes
On my old phone it was a real ass-disaster... (Xperia S) Never ever again
There are minor software glitches. But I expect everything to be fine in coming months. More than decent performance
love...mostly
i like the oneplus 2 overall, but not yet real excited about oxygen and updates only about once a month since purchase.
the type c connector seems to be usb type 2. OP apparently neglected to make accessory cables (power & otg) for the type c connection on 1+2, except power cable that comes w/phone. this, as of dec., 2015.
For otg: apparently you must go backwards to their usb type 2 otg (made for 1+1) and use their adapter from micro usb to type c connector.
tried a 3rd party otg type c that is usb 3.1: incompatable. perhaps update will fix this (i hope, since i
want to be able to use a flash drive w/phone since it has no micro sd slot). snc
I can try many roms
I can try many roms
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 2, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 2 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Awesome phone
overall. i m very dissapointed with this phone. Beautiful hardware with strong internals, the oos just make this phone extremely slow
Really love the phone since i installed CM 13
That runs really smooth and fast + great batterylife
I don't know if my OPT is defective, the speaker volume is very low. youtube videos or music is "ok" but especially ringtones are very low, I can't hear them outside of my house. At work in my pants it's impossible to hear and feel the phone because the vibration isn't strong enough. If Frenk_Ryder writes that the speaker is louder then the notebook speakers it's hard to believe for me. really?
and the battery life is horrible on my device. plugged it off the charger on 6 am and have only 20 percent on 12 pm with 2 - 3 hours SOT. I'm using the unofficial mahdi builds of cm13. the performance is good but Android System seems to be a battery hogger. I don't know why or what's the problem.
oxygen OS lacks much features of Cyanogen OS or Cyanogenmod and is "not complete at all", and Android System always is on top of the battery stats list. what is the issue for that? I mean Oxygen OS 2.2.0, older versions may be better in terms of battery life?
I hope anyone can help me with my device. thx
Was contemplating going with the Galaxy S6, but the Notification Slider was a real deal-maker for me (especially being loyal to the Galaxy lineup since S1).
Now owning the 1+2, I noticed I can not discreetly silent my phone in my pocket without taking it out and drawing attention in a meeting).
Have any of you found the Notification Slider to be a lot more useful than you originally thought it to be?
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overall. i m very dissapointed with this phone. Beautiful hardware with strong internals, the oos just make this phone extremely slow
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Time to root & install another rom H2O is really fine, just try it :laugh:
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I don't know if my OPT is defective, the speaker volume is very low. youtube videos or music is "ok" but especially ringtones are very low, I can't hear them outside of my house. At work in my pants it's impossible to hear and feel the phone because the vibration isn't strong enough. If Frenk_Ryder writes that the speaker is louder then the notebook speakers it's hard to believe for me. really?
and the battery life is horrible on my device. plugged it off the charger on 6 am and have only 20 percent on 12 pm with 2 - 3 hours SOT. I'm using the unofficial mahdi builds of cm13. the performance is good but Android System seems to be a battery hogger. I don't know why or what's the problem.
oxygen OS lacks much features of Cyanogen OS or Cyanogenmod and is "not complete at all", and Android System always is on top of the battery stats list. what is the issue for that? I mean Oxygen OS 2.2.0, older versions may be better in terms of battery life?
I hope anyone can help me with my device. thx
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When does the issue appear about the volume speaker ?
For the battery life, try another rom ( CM13, Skydragon, H2O, .. )
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Time to root & install another rom H2O is really fine, just try it :laugh:
When does the issue appear about the volume speaker ?
For the battery life, try another rom ( CM13, Skydragon, H2O, .. )
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tried almost all the roms, some have something or the other missing, others have serious battery drain some have wifi issues, others camera is bull****. I miss my z2 so much and i will sell my op2 and get a nexus 7 or whatever its called, when its released
awesome, just needs a bit of software polish...
Near flawless
I have had many phones, mostly Samsungs and LGs. Let me tell you this Oneplus 2 is the perfect phone. WIth the latest OOS 3.0.1 MM, Xposed with Gravitybox, and nova launcher on top, it's a brilliant setup. This thing gets higher scores than the Nexus 6p on every benchmark i've tested, I can game for at least 33 minutes straight of Nova3 (that's the longest straight time I've played any game so far) and no overheating and NO lagging or slowdowns. I don't understand the controversy over overheating and throttling, perhaps the latest models being manufactured are the best models. Overall, I love this phone, also, battery life is incredibly for me. I go two days without one charge and that's using texting about 500 sms a day and web browsing, light youtube, and light music, ON wifi. I've never had a phone quite like it, and for 350 bucks! Awesome.:good::good::good:
Coming from a clapped out Nexus 4, I wanted to really like my One Plus 2 (Oxygen OS 2.2.1) but it was hard; a perfectly adequate phone, but not overwhelming.
The Marshmallow upgrade to Oxygen 3.0.2 has made it the phone it should always have been. It's faster, the fingerprint unlock is better and instantaneous (and no need to wake the device first), the occasional stutters have stopped, the battery lasts longer on standby.
The two standout features for me, however, are not software. Firstly, the alert slider is brilliant. Secondly, there are plenty of cheap Dual SIM phones but few decent ones (in the UK at least).
I only got access to the true potential of the sd810 after switching to a custom rom & kernel
Its Great phone overall.
I guess the sales could be much larger quantities if there were not invites.
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I have developed a great degree of love for this phone, especially since it got a wealth of custom ROMs. It performs well, the battery life is excellent, it doesn't prevent me from installing custom ROMs or rooting, and all-in-all I love it. It handles everything I throw at it like a champ, and doesn't complain, and all for less than $300
its a good phone, but i had few hard times because of lack software updates from manufacturer (no android 7.0, no android 7.1, nothing) like on every other non-google phone, but thats life i finally fixed all major issues and it simply works, so i like it again
I am currently on stock Android 12. I flashed the unlocked stock image (non-verizon) a few weeks back. With Android 11, Android 12, LineageOS, etc. every browser I have tried including Chrome, Brave, Via, etc. all drain the battery way faster than browsers did on my previous Moto G5 plus. i would say when I am surfing the net on my browser (usually just reading forums, no video), the battery drains about 1% every 5 minutes or less. I have tried 2.4Ghz wifi, LTE, etc. and data connection type doesn't seem to impact anything.
Is this normal for this phone? anything to do to reduce browser battery drain?
If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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correct. if I am using other apps the battery drain isn't near as severe. I keep the display setting "extra dim" enabled all the time and I keep it down as low as I can tolerate. I use a pitch black wallpaper use dark mode in browsers so they have mostly black background with white text.
Phone idle is the only other thing that seems to use a sizeable amount of battery according to the battery usage data in settings.
Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
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Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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I definitely did that. I only got the 4a because it was the perfect size and had a headphone jack. I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better. Nope.
Na, it's more complicated. 4a sports more sensors, brighter/denser display, faster processors, etc. System and personal apps clearly play a role in longevity (behind screen brightness); you'd need to do a detail study to understand what's drawing when and why.
I use to fuss over such matters but find the device lasts a full day for my use case which is all that really matters. Charges up quick from a modest size battery pack when camping/traveling. Just like past Motos.
Not sure who I'll partner with in the next dance. Love Pixel cameras (especially in challenging conditions) and routine updates. Miss some of Moto's innovations, like active display and actions. Needs to be close to AOSP; no Samsung UX butchery. In the end form factor will likely be the deciding factor once non-contenders are ruled out.
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I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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Thanks for the suggestions. My power complaints are just limited to the browser so I dont think it is just the larger CPUs. I think my standby consumption issues are related to Stock Android as I am now running GrapheneOS and my standby power consumption now matches my old Moto G5 Plus.
As for browser usage consumption, I have tried everything but disabling Javascript. I will try that and see if it breaks anything I use regularly. Thanks for the idea.
tangent back to general power consumption, I typically disable just about everything behind the scenes as I can. I keep the theme on pitch black. I use the extra dim setting to keep screen brightness as low as I can tolerate. I use night mode in browser to keep as much black background as possible. I disable all tap-to-wake or sensor based features. When I was trying to run Android 12, I disabled all the smart services and removed all the google apps I could. I removed all permissions I could. I restricted all apps I could. I disabled adaptive settings, etc. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background on Android 12 and I just could not
Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
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Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I totally agree on the lazy thing. So many devs now days are so lazy. I develope QuickBase databases and constantly run into extremely poorly setup realms/apps. Just basic stuff. Lol
According to some news, the so called "Game Optimizing Service" is availeable on S22 Ultra devices - which potenially controlls about 10.000 Apps of the App-Store.
Can someone confirm if it is installed / active on S22 Ultra on SD & Exynos ?
[Update: Samsung reponds] Galaxy phones appear to be throttling 10,000 Android apps, like OnePlus did
According to recent findings, Samsung is throttling thousands of common Android apps on its Galaxy devices, and without a clear reason.
9to5google.com
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499009797035008002
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Package Disabler Pro
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Pay for the money greedy developer.
Here's a link to my thread, i debloat Samsung firmware including GOS (Game Optimizing Service) for the best performance and battery.
[DISCONTINUED] Samsung Galaxy One UI - Optimization Guide
THIS IS A SUGGESTED CONFIGURATION FOR SAMSUNG DEVICES OUT OF SUPPORT/CLOSED I - RECOMMENDED SETTINGS To Start With - Factory Reset before starting optimisations - Factory Reset after every Major update (One UI/Android) - Remove SIM before first...
forum.xda-developers.com
I remember that Samsung used something like this in my Note 5 and S7 Edge from Android 6 to limit game performance on purpose.
I advise you all to disable this "optimization".
Reports say that the GOS cannot be disabled the old way b'cos it's now system app since One UI 4.0?
Will it help to uninstall insted of disabling?
You can't disable it in OneUI 4.x
It's part of the Kernel now.
Maybe instead of panicking and basing decisions on headlines and mob mentality you think about the reasons why this might have been done to start with?
Most of if not all of these apps will be very poorly optimised in general but especially for the hardware in the S22 series of devices - this means that left unchecked they will use more resources than they really need to, warming up the devices causing thermal throttling to kick in and draining the battery fast (as well as possibly reducing the lifespan of certain components).
This APK keeps these things in check, but for games where you really need more performance you can use gamebooster to switch to performance mode and recovery virtually all the lost power (if not all of it) - making it your choice to sacrifice heat and battery life for performance when you need it, not all the time.
Yeah, I uninstalled it via ADB but it returns after reboot.
Yeah only thing working from the sounds of it is being rooted and using a package disabler but yeah then you lose widevine currently.
I've disabled all it's permissions including "Change system setting", maybe that helps.
Also here it's mentioned that it's possible to disable the GOS for non-game apps, still waiting for answer to how though:
https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/t56kta
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Maybe instead of panicking and basing decisions on headlines and mob mentality you think about the reasons why this might have been done to start with?
Most of if not all of these apps will be very poorly optimised in general but especially for the hardware in the S22 series of devices - this means that left unchecked they will use more resources than they really need to, warming up the devices causing thermal throttling to kick in and draining the battery fast (as well as possibly reducing the lifespan of certain components).
This APK keeps these things in check, but for games where you really need more performance you can use gamebooster to switch to performance mode and recovery virtually all the lost power (if not all of it) - making it your choice to sacrifice heat and battery life for performance when you need it, not all the time.
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It is more or less the same discussion as we had with the oneplus 9 pro.
I am not seeing bad intend - but i dont't support the overall approach.
Most of theses apps are poorly optimized .... Even if so: That's none of the OS to take care of - especially not if you can't change / edit the overall parameters as a user on a "per App" Solution. I would love to see MS introduce something like this into windows....
Also the oem now actively could impact the performance of an App and the developer ist reliable anymore: "Well Samsung decided our app has to run like this, thanks for buying the pro version, but we can't help you". Wonderfull. And if Samsung has a bad day - maybe we are dropping the performance of some famous apps even more.... cause samsung would love to push the own alternative. Which includes some new advertising service... One could get creative with this stuff.
The reduction of lifespan is also a argument which is... at least questionable. I would argue that this is then poor product design or use of wrong or not fitting-quality components for the job. Makeing up "flaws" in Hardware by Software isn't really a solution to the overall problem
OK, so apparently this GOS thing is what the "Processing speed" option controls. It enables all apps to run at native speeds. I thought it just raised the clock speeds or something. Hmm..
@omnimax
not really. The thing is that the term - "Game Optimizing Service" is a bit missleading.
It is not about allowing named applications to run "native" or "unristricted". Named applications run with predefined ressourcess which aren't by any means "native". It's not about "raising" clockspeeds. It is about restriction of availeable ressourcces.
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Maybe instead of panicking and basing decisions on headlines and mob mentality you think about the reasons why this might have been done to start with?
Most of if not all of these apps will be very poorly optimised in general but especially for the hardware in the S22 series of devices - this means that left unchecked they will use more resources than they really need to, warming up the devices causing thermal throttling to kick in and draining the battery fast (as well as possibly reducing the lifespan of certain components).
This APK keeps these things in check, but for games where you really need more performance you can use gamebooster to switch to performance mode and recovery virtually all the lost power (if not all of it) - making it your choice to sacrifice heat and battery life for performance when you need it, not all the time.
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Nah, this is the same situation as OP did with OP9 series, except US SD user's cant even root and remove it completely so you're stuck at their mercy. If it was configurable, not enabled by default, only affected games and didn't phone home all the time, they might get a pass.... but the way it's implemented is pretty much the definition of malware.
Can't even opt-out
Always runs, with permissions or not.
Phones home with potentially identifying information. (EU people, check out how GDPR is handled here, it's probably not)
Makes your device slow.
The road to hell is paved on good intentions and what not...
I am really amused to see so much discussion on this here on XDA and social media as well. For 98% of the folks, as long as your phone runs smooth and gives you an all day battery life, enjoy it. Many app developers are also not saints. They may leak data and bloat code etc so OEMs need to take the matter in their hands. For avid gamers, they should probably get a gaming machine and use phones only for casual gaming. With current tech limits, gaming on phones will necessitate some tweaks to optimize performance. Apple is polished because it simply stops everything else in the background and focuses ONLY on 1 task on the foreground. And iPhones also do heat up after sometime while gaming.
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I am really amused to see so much discussion on this here on XDA and social media as well. For 98% of the folks, as long as your phone runs smooth and gives you an all day battery life, enjoy it. Many app developers are also not saints. They may leak data and bloat code etc so OEMs need to take the matter in their hands. For avid gamers, they should probably get a gaming machine and use phones only for casual gaming. With current tech limits, gaming on phones will necessitate some tweaks to optimize performance. Apple is polished because it simply stops everything else in the background and focuses ONLY on 1 task on the foreground. And iPhones also do heat up after sometime while gaming.
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It's really not the OEM's place to "take matter into their own hands". Don't push your use case on everyone else. Samsung does not know my user case, just like Apple does not know my use case, just like YOU don't know my use case. People bought this (and other, like the OP9) phone partially due to benchmark scores that should translate into performance metrics for their use case. When that's not the case, then they should be mad they got a paperweight. Check out the GOS enabled geekscore, it's basically a GS10. Why should users be happy they got a smooth UI experience when the things they actually want to do on a phone is gimped?
Your sentiment on a gaming machine... are you serious? This phone costs more than an actual mid-upper tier gaming PC. Some people like to play games on their phones, and some games are mobile only.
Again, optimizing by itself is not necessarily a bad thing. They just need to make it an opt-in experience, explain what it does clearly, let the users choose which apps to "optimize", and start letting people use their hardware like their own.
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It's really not the OEM's place to "take matter into their own hands". Don't push your use case on everyone else. Samsung does not know my user case, just like Apple does not know my use case, just like YOU don't know my use case. People bought this (and other, like the OP9) phone partially due to benchmark scores that should translate into performance metrics for their use case. When that's not the case, then they should be mad they got a paperweight. Check out the GOS enabled geekscore, it's basically a GS10. Why should users be happy they got a smooth UI experience when the things they actually want to do on a phone is gimped?
Your sentiment on a gaming machine... are you serious? This phone costs more than an actual mid-upper tier gaming PC. Some people like to play games on their phones, and some games are mobile only.
Again, optimizing by itself is not necessarily a bad thing. They just need to make it an opt-in experience, explain what it does clearly, let the users choose which apps to "optimize", and start letting people use their hardware like their own.
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Yeah, maybe you're right. They need to be transparent on the optimization choices.
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Reports say that the GOS cannot be disabled the old way b'cos it's now system app since One UI 4.0?
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Cannot disable, adb fails...