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Search for the best battery saving OS

Hi ,
currently I'm running CodenameAndroid 3.3.0 on my Nexus S and everything runs smooth and works perfectly well for me, no doubts. But somehow I constantly get the feeling that the newer our operating system gets our batteries drain faster. Either this or my battery just gets old. However I'm searching for a Rom that has battery saving in main purpose. I dont care about playing games, the operating system or showing off how great my phone is. For this I have my Tablet The best solution for me would be a rom which is very low in batterydrain but as smooth as jellybean (maybe just port the transitions over). I know it might be hard to find something like this but is there any rom which matches my perception? Also a nice look would be cool, too ^^
I'm waiting for your responses!

I think you're looking for SlimBean. I'm on CNA too, the batter life is pretty bad

I tried SlimBean because I used SlimICS before but I miss too many features to change it back. Isn't there something else? Or which OS has the best batterylife in general?

i think gingerbread still has the best battery life.

androxide got me over 4hrs of screen time and a days usage with matrix
the new miui jb is also almost the same

IMO.....ICS's best battery life is on Kangy Ultra Ex 1.3 by DaXmax.
Just as long as u don't use Google talk since that's the ROMs only hiccup.
Then again like most will say.... its all depending on the user so hopefully it will help if u try.
I'm currently using the same developers JB ROM called paranoid Android..... so far it great but again I don't use all the newest features to much yet. I'm working myself slowing into the stuff.
Good luck
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There is no ROM with super battery life, some better and some worst, very similar.
Most u can get from nexus s is +4hrs screen on.
And i don't care about those pathetic screen shots with +7hrs of screen on.
Fire up 3g/H stock browser, maps, music etc and we'll find out how good ur battery life is.

MIUI get's me aprox 4 hours and 50 minutes of on screen time. Lots of game playing, instant messaging, syncing, music, and social media (Instagram, twitter, tumblr.) And about 9 hours + when it get's to about 14%
EDIT: This is when using WIFI, not my 3G.

ColdKiller93 said:
Hi ,
currently I'm running CodenameAndroid 3.3.0 on my Nexus S and everything runs smooth and works perfectly well for me, no doubts. But somehow I constantly get the feeling that the newer our operating system gets our batteries drain faster. Either this or my battery just gets old. However I'm searching for a Rom that has battery saving in main purpose. I dont care about playing games, the operating system or showing off how great my phone is. For this I have my Tablet The best solution for me would be a rom which is very low in batterydrain but as smooth as jellybean (maybe just port the transitions over). I know it might be hard to find something like this but is there any rom which matches my perception? Also a nice look would be cool, too ^^
I'm waiting for your responses!
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This question will produce every combo under the sun...but in the end no Real answer. Every phone/battery is different and how the person uses their phone. Apps installed, how much you use said apps, are the ram hogs, 2g, 3g, I could go on forever...just like this thread will if not eventually ignored or closed.

Closed, there is no answer to this question, the majority of battery drain will be the screen (depending on brightness) and whatever app you have installed and use.
Generally it's a matter of finding out what works for you.

[Q] New Phone

Hello XDA users,
Sadly my HTC Sensation XE had died,
RIghtnow im looking for a new phone but i do not have the money for any high end phones,
I have been looking up some review's about phone's that are about 200 euro's and out of all tests the MOTO G came on first place.
So far the only downside i found was that i do not have place for a SD card and that you cant pullout the battery
What is your experiance with the MOTO G and do you recommand it?
I am using my phone mostly for Facebook, Whatsapp and Music. Maybe a simple game on my way home in the bus.
Cheers,
Joey

Really good device to have! Storage wise you have about 12.92gb to use, i have about 4.5gb left with my 5 gb of music and 2 gb on apps. Performance wise its really good for some games i don't really play much games just a couple. Battery wise it'll last me about a day or two depending on what i'm doing. In the end i would totally recommend it!

Day to day usage I find the battery to be pretty awesome, i tend to play ingress and thats quite taxing on the battery with the GPS being always on, but i have no issues with the phone i only have an 8gb model and thats more than ample for my needs when you factor in the fact i use the FM Radio more than listen to mp3's and if i want to do that i have a streaming data package.
I recommended this phone to 4 other people and they have them now and love it

raithsphere said:
Day to day usage I find the battery to be pretty awesome, i tend to play ingress and thats quite taxing on the battery with the GPS being always on, but i have no issues with the phone i only have an 8gb model and thats more than ample for my needs when you factor in the fact i use the FM Radio more than listen to mp3's and if i want to do that i have a streaming data package.
I recommended this phone to 4 other people and they have them now and love it
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If your GPS is always on how much does your battery last?

Well that sounds promising! even with a bigger battery in my Sensation it barely made the evening.
Do you guys have any experience with Rooting the Moto G? on my sensation it was a pain to do.

Rooting is simple if you know how to use adb
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Well that is right is awesome phone and great performance
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buntysatya said:
If your GPS is always on how much does your battery last?
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When i am playing ingress which i did hardcore today for 8 hours non stop with no charge

If u root it and put CM11 on it, than is really brutal phone. Really fast, good signal reception, good battery, exellent built quality and what is the most important thing for me is the size and the price. If there was a logo of Samsung or iPhone on it, then the price will be 400eu.
The verdict: For that price it`s perfect :good:

This phone is a testament to the principle that, sometimes, a particular thing is greater than the "sum of its parts." Throw the spec sheet out the window -- the important question is, "Does it simply perform well in day to day operations?" The answer to that question is an unequivocal "YES!"
The phone is phenomenal at this price point. The build quality is outstanding, and the phone is buttery smooth. If you want a phone to play high-end android games while multitasking with other RAM intensive apps then this phone may not be for you, but if you need a phone that performs well in completely ordinary day to day operations then there is absolutely not a phone on the market with the same performance and quality of the 'G' at this price.

Any S6 user happy with their phone?

Hi guys, I'm going straight to the point: are you happy with your phone (in general, I know every phone has some minor annoyances)? I keep reading on the internet people that keep on lamenting about it (bad battery, laggy, awful RAM management, ect.), that's why I've opened this thread. I don't have the phone and I plan on buying it (it or the s6 edge or edge+, still have to decide - unfortunately the note 5 isn't coming to Europe anytime soon -), but all the reports are making me scared of buying it.

I'm happy with it. But you enjoy it more with root. Custom kernel fixes the ram issue, keeps the system speedy, custom roms add more features and debtor for better performance and ram management. So I'm basically enjoying it because of root
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Like osmosizzz above I can say that I am very happy with this phone. Once you root it and remove the bloatware this thing flies. Using a custom ROM and kernel I have better battery life, endless customization options and a speedy UI experience.
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I'd like not to have to root, I'm just tired of it (coming from a nexus 4), but I guess I might consider it if I buy the S6

You really dont have to have root as the phone is still plenty fast and with each update that comes out they are improving the software of the phone.

It's the best phone I ever had, my only gripes are aggressive memory management and the placement of the speaker (I usually end up covering it when holding it ), lag and battery are a lot better since the 2nd 511 update, the first update from 501 was rather laggy

I have 2 of this phone. here are my opinions:
1st phone (rooted and on XstrestoLite ROM)
I have great battery life, responses and everything seems fine except for the current bug with BOGG firmwares, which resulted in the keyboard lag when coming for lockscreen (Keyboard open delay about 3-6 seconds) check out my battery life here and here
2nd phone (stock and not rooted ever)
I find that the battery life on this phone not as great as my 1st phone, but however, everything is pretty smooth and great to me. But for a short time i had problems with GPS not being able to lock properly on Waze and Google Maps, however, not sure what happened (i didn't update the phone or anything) but it was back to normal again. and never happened again ever since.
Verdict: i love both my phones, i'll have them only until the Samsung Galaxy S7 comes out.

I owned this phone for over 4 months now. It never lag and blazing fast, the fastest android phone I've ever seen and the most amazing design I've ever seen too. It is just how the poor memory management kills apps at the background when you doing heavy multi-tasking, I've heard the 2nd 5.1.1 OTA fixed it. If multi-tasking is your concern, you should consider S6 Edge Plus comes with 4GB ram.
The battery performance is above average, imagine when you got this ultra smooth speed plus 2K screen and with only a 2550mAh capacity, I'll say it has done the job pretty well on battery life and enough to use a full day for any light to medium usage user. Heavy user will need a 2nd charge but it supports QC2.0(just get a QC2.0 powerbank) or wireless charging.
https://shopmeenova.appspot.com/st/p/mrg2.html
External storage can be overcome easily with this cute staff.
Since I'm a one-hand lover and the S6 size is the max. acceptable limit to me. I'm thinking to swap to Sony Z5 Compact later but that's s810 cpu overheating issue scared me away, I may just stick with S6 until S8 out, still not decided yet atm.

Its pretty good, but the RAM management and the occasional battery freakout (background drain) are irritating. If 5.1.1 fixes these 2 issues, I'm gold.
Before anyone tells me I can custom, its a work phone, I need full stock unrooted/knox intact otherwise I can't hook into my work's MDM systems (yes, its really nazi security).
But even without root, debloating via package disabler pro/debloater makes a noticeable difference to battery, which is a poor indictment of Samsung (6th generation Galaxy and still not learnt their lesson?).
The camera is out of this world and you get REALLY used to having a reliable fingerprint reader, I just rest my thumb stupidly on the home button on other people's phones (and if there isn't a physical home button I just stare stupidly at the screen for ~2 seconds lol).
I've never actually used the 'swap battery' feature so don't miss it, work phone so I got the storage bumped but if I paid for it myself I'd probably be irritated at the cost

One happy user here.

Battery life, my only gripe. Otherwise a perfect phone for me. Won't be rooting, just changed the launcher (Nova prime) and Skinomi case. Happy S6 user here!

apart from the camera I don't like any thing about this phone.

Best phone i,ve ever had,fantastic camera/screen/battery lasts me a full day no problems at all

Unhappy user here; bad battery life, laggy software, agressive memory resulting to bad multi tasking; will definitely change the phone.
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I'm quite pleased with it, and I didn't even root mine. I'm especially impressed with the GearVR.

Count me with the happy owners!
I will root soon anyway to get more flexibility and customization.

Since updating to the EVR firmware (for network specific settings) I love it, super fast and great performance even with intensive games. My one issue is battery life; although it lasts the day with ordinary use it does drain after a while of continuous use, but then again with fast charging I just plug it in for a few minutes and all is good.

Is there any fix for the memory management?

The Zel said:
Hi guys, I'm going straight to the point: are you happy with your phone (in general, I know every phone has some minor annoyances)? I keep reading on the internet people that keep on lamenting about it (bad battery, laggy, awful RAM management, ect.), that's why I've opened this thread. I don't have the phone and I plan on buying it (it or the s6 edge or edge+, still have to decide - unfortunately the note 5 isn't coming to Europe anytime soon -), but all the reports are making me scared of buying it.
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Only thing I dislike about this phone is the battery, but as other have said. Root->custom rom + kernel (and MAYBE soon Xposed) and this phone is at least average in battery life.
If you don't root (and is a power user, the phone is not for you). With root + custom rom + few tweaks I can go around 3-6 hours SOT on data (depending on brightness) and 6+ on wifi. Without I barely hit 3.
Phones like the Xperia Z3 compact can hit 6 hours SOT without root. So yeah, if rooting this phone is great, if not it sucks from a power user perspective.

Psych0t1c20 said:
Is there any fix for the memory management?
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Latest 5.1.1 has fixed it.

Overall speed

Would you say that the Huawei Nexus 6P is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Huawei Nexus 6P exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Nice info , it used for me .

iMehran said:
Nice info , it used for me .
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I don't get it

I don't get it either, but I will say this phone is one of the fastest I've ever used in day to day usage. I came from a Galaxy S6 128gb and this device is a constant smooth experience. Jank and constant app reloads is what killed the S6 for me.
Hangouts is responsive and smooth... I think that says it all.

Faster than the OnePlus2, which has the same processor and more RAM... Not near as laggy.

No lags, no hiccups, just pure unadulterated speed.

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What do you mean - Justin Bieber

fast for me. faster than the tears when watchin a nicholas sparks movie.

This phone flies.
Granted im coming from a galaxy S3, but still, this phone is awesome

Yeah I've had absolutely 0 times where this phone has hung/frozen/janked/Etc.
Think that's all I need to say really. Also, multitasking works great and apps don't constantly have to refresh. Benchmarks are completely pointless and it amazes me that people still think they're important on smartphones. Especially when the Samsung phones all blow this out the water with their crazy antutu scores, yet people still claim this phone is faster and less often freezes up or hangs.
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It is very fast, it does clock down when hot, but that is a good thing.

In normal usage the heat is low and the phone flies but even only somewhat intensive games definitely heat up the phone faster and the framerate suffers.

the phone feels fast as hell after it boots up, but after awhile when you start opening up a bunch of stuff and its still in ur task manager.. things start slowing down a lot

iMehran said:
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WHAT !?! - Lil John

The phone is fast, but it is not without some issues.
In particular, I have some bluetooth issues - the phone randomly disconnects from my car's BT, and only a reboot would fix it.
I used Nexus 5, Moto X 2nd gen, and Moto X Pure previously in the same car, and had no issues.
Hoping it is software related, and the "fix" is on the way.
BTW, tried two Nexus 6P's and the same results with BT

My first Nexus phone and I might never switch from the Nexus line going forward. I've had it for almost a month now (received mine Oct 27th) and I still haven't had one hiccup or stutter. This phone is a champ and prob the most consistent performing phone I've had to date..

can't get any faster currently

Nothing to add, fastest device I had so far. Very snappy, no lags.

Boot and shutdown is a little slower than others, say GS6, but everything else is perfect. Doesnt skip a beat.
First phone that didnt stutter when you swipe left to Google now in the launcher (just checked it out before I switched to Nova, lol).

fast enough for me

Question Poco X3 Pro state

Hi, I am thinking to buy x3 Pro, but at first i want to know if all problems are already fixed.
I read a lot of comments about problems, but most of these comments are 3+ months old, so...
1) under load it gets very hot. Throttling...
Just by running Antutu benchmark few times, you see how score drops over 100K.
2) Touch issues
3) lags in games, Laggy UI, delay when scrolling
4) fast battery drain
5) network Issues, unstable data connection
6) unexpected shutdowns, screen freezes
7) back panel vibration when audio is playing
There are more, but these are most common.
I hope most of these problems come from their "amazing" MiUI, and can be fixed.

I can only confirm point 7 but it's not so noticable unless you are banging music at high volume.
No heat issues but then i'm not running Antutu over and over. No touch issues here but some people mentioned it. Laggy UI? First time hearing this lmao. It's butter smooth even on MIUI. I get 3 days of battery life with 10h SoT on average with 120Hz, i dont think it's bad.. plus i'm using navigation (GPS) and camera quite abit, you can probably get more than that easily. Never had any network or random shutdown issues (almost 20 days uptime, since last update of ArrowOS) probably some people with magisk / mods reported it.

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I can only confirm point 7 but it's not so noticable unless you are banging music at high volume.
No heat issues but then i'm not running Antutu over and over. No touch issues here but some people mentioned it. Laggy UI? First time hearing this lmao. It's butter smooth even on MIUI. I get 3 days of battery life with 10h SoT on average with 120Hz, i dont think it's bad.. plus i'm using navigation (GPS) and camera quite abit, you can probably get more than that easily. Never had any network or random shutdown issues (almost 20 days uptime, since last update of ArrowOS) probably some people with magisk / mods reported it.
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I would agree, although I'm not going so good SoT (but since I'm a light user I still get very good battery life).
Never forget that people report issues, not good experiences. If you look at each indvividual grievance, you'll never buy any phone anyway

"i'm not running Antutu over and over"
It's just one of ways to put your phone under load and immediately see/compare results.
Many smartphone reviewers do this test to see if phone will throttle.
Check this video:
I found video where we can see x3 pro from inside.
On the left is x3 NFC and on the right x3 Pro.
Very interesting decision for x3 pro.
There is copper tape, instead of metallic plate.
Plus, you see that thermal paste is only on memory (3x pro).
If they don't use paste and there is not enough pressure then heat will not be dissipated by pipe.
And here you can see how much they use thermal paste between tape and pipe.
3 small lines on CPU and a bit for memory.
Just look how much more contact surface is on x3 NFC.
Now i understand why x3 pro is so hot.
If your x3 pro is not hot, then you are lucky (there is enough pressure/paste).
If you are not lucky, then idk. It's faulty phone.

1. Yes, the phone gets really hot, but that is only while gaming, especially when on mobile data. I just bought a cheap cooler and everything is fine
2. I had problems on AncientOS only, now on Crdroid i dont have it
3. Games dont lag, ofc u cant play Genshin Impact maxed out, but overall the gaming experience is smooth. On Crdroid i have no problems with scrolling, but i also use Samsung Browser and Relay for Reddit, Chrome and Reddit app were laggy even on custom roms
4. Battery drain is a problem of MIUI, on custom roms i get 8-10h of screen time from 100-20%, but i feel like i should get more than 2-3h of gaming
5. & 6. No problems
7. Yes, the back of the phone vibrates while listening at max volume, which is to be expected with how loud the speakers are and i dont see how this is a problem. Did the people who complain about this ever hold a speaker? Even overhead headphones vibrate while listening at high volume.

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but i feel like i should get more than 2-3h of gaming
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wait, only 2-3 hours of gaming and battery is empty?
"Yes, the phone gets really hot, but that is only while gaming"
I think we all will agree that it shouldn't be like this. Either Chipset is hotter than they expected and cooling solution used in older models can't handle it. In this case they had to slightly undervolt/downclock. Or they have huge % of faulty phones (cooling problem) and they simply close eyes on it.
But maybe it all goes by the plan. They know that chip will be hot, but it's fast and it's enough to get good sales.

Yes, its around that, but i mostly play CoD mobile and Wild Rift maxed out, so that might play into that.
I also agree that the cooling solution isn't that good to use this phone to the max and no update will ever fix it without a performance drop. Honestly this device would have been better suited with a SD855, the SD860 is too hot for the device, or at least the body of the phone didnt allow for a better cooling solution. But i guess they didnt want to have a 2 years old chip in a new phone, even if overall that would allow the phone to work faster for a longer period of time.

Pampam666 said:
7. Yes, the back of the phone vibrates while listening at max volume, which is to be expected with how loud the speakers are and i dont see how this is a problem. Did the people who complain about this ever hold a speaker? Even overhead headphones vibrate while listening at high volume.
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It's not normal. It's defect, same as cooling system.
Here you can see comparison with Redmi Note 10 Pro at max volume.

Being honest i really dont mind it, actually i enjoy it, the speakers feel powerful.

I feel many of the bugs described on first post and I find it a real shame what POCCO has done with this phone. Cheap phone? Yes! Powerfull? Yes! and... It works as expected? No!
On the other side, there are more than 10 different ROMs available for this phone and most of them are the same. Same bugs and same problems but with different skin.
I loved this phone but after see how it evolves, i feel like i did a bad investiment. Next time i will go for Realme.

new_member_2021 said:
Hi, I am thinking to buy x3 Pro, but at first i want to know if all problems are already fixed.
I read a lot of comments about problems, but most of these comments are 3+ months old, so...
1) under load it gets very hot. Throttling...
Just by running Antutu benchmark few times, you see how score drops over 100K.
2) Touch issues
3) lags in games, Laggy UI, delay when scrolling
4) fast battery drain
5) network Issues, unstable data connection
6) unexpected shutdowns, screen freezes
7) back panel vibration when audio is playing
There are more, but these are most common.
I hope most of these problems come from their "amazing" MiUI, and can be fixed.
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I had some of the these issues when I was on miui and before unlocking BL. Phone gets warm during gaming which is perfectly normal and on par with other phones.
I sold my galaxy note 10+ for poco x3 pro, it was the best decision I made this year. Gaming got better with no throttling on custom rom, more fluid, better battery life, native google ui.

spikywits said:
better battery life
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how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 6-7 hours (14%/h). On poco x3 pro, around 4 hours (23%/h) But can you squeeze 6+ gameplay hours from x3 pro on lower settings?

new_member_2021 said:
how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 6-7 hours (14%/h). On poco x3 pro, around 4 hours (23%/h) But can you squeeze 6+ gameplay hours from x3 pro on lower settings?
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I haven't tested that long prolonged gameplays. My comment was against my previous phones - galaxy note 10+ and black shark 2 and it easily lasts for 2 days for my usage. But 4 hrs in 23%/h is still a good life, isn't it? don't get killed yourself playing for so long

new_member_2021 said:
how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 7+ hours. Of course settings will be lower, but can you squeeze 7 gameplay hours from x3 pro (even on lower settings)?
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Pointless comparison, Realme 8 SoC is about twice slower. It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf will empty their fuel tanks first. Ofcourse Ferrari will but there is a reason for that. Not to mention 120 vs 60 Hz screen.

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Pointless comparison, Realme 8 SoC is about twice slower. It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf will empty their fuel tanks first. Ofcourse Ferrari will but there is a reason for that. Not to mention 120 vs 60 Hz screen.
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Dude turn off this "protective" mode. I am not comparing, i am asking question.
I understand, you own this phone and it's most amazing thing you ever had.
"It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf"
Reality is that there are more powerful phones on smaller batteries and they live way longer then poco x3 pro. For example poco F3 with 4520 mAh. Even if x3 pro has 5160 mAh, it's battery is empty at point where F3 has more then 20%. And both phones has 120Hz screens. Only difference is that F3 has amoled display.
k3lcior, i am asking question (it's not comparison): why F3 with smaller battery lives way longer? Is it because of amoled display? Is it because of chip which is hot as hell? or?
if we compare processors:
Snapdragon 870 vs Snapdragon 860: tests and benchmarks
We put Qualcomm Snapdragon 870 against Snapdragon 860 to find out which SoC is better. See performance comparison in benchmarks and games.
nanoreview.net
we see that "Efficiency of battery consumption" is the same, so problem shouldn't be in cpu.
so, amoled display does all magic?

I'm not defensive and no it's not most amazing thing i ever had. And yes you are not comparing, but you are asking to compare no?
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so, amoled display does all magic?
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It does save battery when there are blacks on the screen because they are not 'powered' on AMOLED screens on that large screen it can make large difference. There are also more small details which also can make some difference for example SD card slot, Poco F3 doesn't have one and Poco X3 Pro has one which has to be powered at all times.
Not to mention GSM signal, small signal difference can easily make several % battery life difference which can be easily manipulated hence why these comparisons are idiotic.
And btw. here is less than 40 min. difference in battery life from what i see.
Edit: Also UFS 3.1 in Poco F3 is more power efficient compared to UFS 3.0 in X3 Pro.

Question was, if on poco x3 pro you can squeeze out 6+ hours of pubg gameplay (even on low quality).
Everything else was just additional info.
Why i am asking? Many poco x3 pro owners wrote that battery life is bad. I am trying to understand if problem is software based, or hardware. If software, it can be fixed, if hardware, then you have powerful phone with bad battery life. If F3 and X3 Pro are both on the same soft, then seems that problem is hardware based (IPS screen).
I saw this test and F3 has 24% of battery when x3 pro dies:

new_member_2021 said:
Why i am asking? Many poco x3 pro owners wrote that battery life is bad.
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You will find people write this for every single phone there is on a planet. I already said what can make battery life difference between the 2 phones and it's not only screen, try reading again.

k3lcior said:
try reading again.
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dude you are so toxic.. im out.

Actually I find your attitude toxic. You make some good points but you listen to nothing!
I could tell you that the phone is great, that your points are somehow valid but not really IRL. I'm afraid of your attack though.
Good luck with the phone.
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dude you are so toxic.. im out.
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