Hi, I am thinking to buy x3 Pro, but at first i want to know if all problems are already fixed.
I read a lot of comments about problems, but most of these comments are 3+ months old, so...
1) under load it gets very hot. Throttling...
Just by running Antutu benchmark few times, you see how score drops over 100K.
2) Touch issues
3) lags in games, Laggy UI, delay when scrolling
4) fast battery drain
5) network Issues, unstable data connection
6) unexpected shutdowns, screen freezes
7) back panel vibration when audio is playing
There are more, but these are most common.
I hope most of these problems come from their "amazing" MiUI, and can be fixed.
I can only confirm point 7 but it's not so noticable unless you are banging music at high volume.
No heat issues but then i'm not running Antutu over and over. No touch issues here but some people mentioned it. Laggy UI? First time hearing this lmao. It's butter smooth even on MIUI. I get 3 days of battery life with 10h SoT on average with 120Hz, i dont think it's bad.. plus i'm using navigation (GPS) and camera quite abit, you can probably get more than that easily. Never had any network or random shutdown issues (almost 20 days uptime, since last update of ArrowOS) probably some people with magisk / mods reported it.
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I can only confirm point 7 but it's not so noticable unless you are banging music at high volume.
No heat issues but then i'm not running Antutu over and over. No touch issues here but some people mentioned it. Laggy UI? First time hearing this lmao. It's butter smooth even on MIUI. I get 3 days of battery life with 10h SoT on average with 120Hz, i dont think it's bad.. plus i'm using navigation (GPS) and camera quite abit, you can probably get more than that easily. Never had any network or random shutdown issues (almost 20 days uptime, since last update of ArrowOS) probably some people with magisk / mods reported it.
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I would agree, although I'm not going so good SoT (but since I'm a light user I still get very good battery life).
Never forget that people report issues, not good experiences. If you look at each indvividual grievance, you'll never buy any phone anyway
"i'm not running Antutu over and over"
It's just one of ways to put your phone under load and immediately see/compare results.
Many smartphone reviewers do this test to see if phone will throttle.
Check this video:
I found video where we can see x3 pro from inside.
On the left is x3 NFC and on the right x3 Pro.
Very interesting decision for x3 pro.
There is copper tape, instead of metallic plate.
Plus, you see that thermal paste is only on memory (3x pro).
If they don't use paste and there is not enough pressure then heat will not be dissipated by pipe.
And here you can see how much they use thermal paste between tape and pipe.
3 small lines on CPU and a bit for memory.
Just look how much more contact surface is on x3 NFC.
Now i understand why x3 pro is so hot.
If your x3 pro is not hot, then you are lucky (there is enough pressure/paste).
If you are not lucky, then idk. It's faulty phone.
1. Yes, the phone gets really hot, but that is only while gaming, especially when on mobile data. I just bought a cheap cooler and everything is fine
2. I had problems on AncientOS only, now on Crdroid i dont have it
3. Games dont lag, ofc u cant play Genshin Impact maxed out, but overall the gaming experience is smooth. On Crdroid i have no problems with scrolling, but i also use Samsung Browser and Relay for Reddit, Chrome and Reddit app were laggy even on custom roms
4. Battery drain is a problem of MIUI, on custom roms i get 8-10h of screen time from 100-20%, but i feel like i should get more than 2-3h of gaming
5. & 6. No problems
7. Yes, the back of the phone vibrates while listening at max volume, which is to be expected with how loud the speakers are and i dont see how this is a problem. Did the people who complain about this ever hold a speaker? Even overhead headphones vibrate while listening at high volume.
Pampam666 said:
but i feel like i should get more than 2-3h of gaming
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wait, only 2-3 hours of gaming and battery is empty?
"Yes, the phone gets really hot, but that is only while gaming"
I think we all will agree that it shouldn't be like this. Either Chipset is hotter than they expected and cooling solution used in older models can't handle it. In this case they had to slightly undervolt/downclock. Or they have huge % of faulty phones (cooling problem) and they simply close eyes on it.
But maybe it all goes by the plan. They know that chip will be hot, but it's fast and it's enough to get good sales.
Yes, its around that, but i mostly play CoD mobile and Wild Rift maxed out, so that might play into that.
I also agree that the cooling solution isn't that good to use this phone to the max and no update will ever fix it without a performance drop. Honestly this device would have been better suited with a SD855, the SD860 is too hot for the device, or at least the body of the phone didnt allow for a better cooling solution. But i guess they didnt want to have a 2 years old chip in a new phone, even if overall that would allow the phone to work faster for a longer period of time.
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7. Yes, the back of the phone vibrates while listening at max volume, which is to be expected with how loud the speakers are and i dont see how this is a problem. Did the people who complain about this ever hold a speaker? Even overhead headphones vibrate while listening at high volume.
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It's not normal. It's defect, same as cooling system.
Here you can see comparison with Redmi Note 10 Pro at max volume.
Being honest i really dont mind it, actually i enjoy it, the speakers feel powerful.
I feel many of the bugs described on first post and I find it a real shame what POCCO has done with this phone. Cheap phone? Yes! Powerfull? Yes! and... It works as expected? No!
On the other side, there are more than 10 different ROMs available for this phone and most of them are the same. Same bugs and same problems but with different skin.
I loved this phone but after see how it evolves, i feel like i did a bad investiment. Next time i will go for Realme.
new_member_2021 said:
Hi, I am thinking to buy x3 Pro, but at first i want to know if all problems are already fixed.
I read a lot of comments about problems, but most of these comments are 3+ months old, so...
1) under load it gets very hot. Throttling...
Just by running Antutu benchmark few times, you see how score drops over 100K.
2) Touch issues
3) lags in games, Laggy UI, delay when scrolling
4) fast battery drain
5) network Issues, unstable data connection
6) unexpected shutdowns, screen freezes
7) back panel vibration when audio is playing
There are more, but these are most common.
I hope most of these problems come from their "amazing" MiUI, and can be fixed.
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I had some of the these issues when I was on miui and before unlocking BL. Phone gets warm during gaming which is perfectly normal and on par with other phones.
I sold my galaxy note 10+ for poco x3 pro, it was the best decision I made this year. Gaming got better with no throttling on custom rom, more fluid, better battery life, native google ui.
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better battery life
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how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 6-7 hours (14%/h). On poco x3 pro, around 4 hours (23%/h) But can you squeeze 6+ gameplay hours from x3 pro on lower settings?
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how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 6-7 hours (14%/h). On poco x3 pro, around 4 hours (23%/h) But can you squeeze 6+ gameplay hours from x3 pro on lower settings?
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I haven't tested that long prolonged gameplays. My comment was against my previous phones - galaxy note 10+ and black shark 2 and it easily lasts for 2 days for my usage. But 4 hrs in 23%/h is still a good life, isn't it? don't get killed yourself playing for so long
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how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 7+ hours. Of course settings will be lower, but can you squeeze 7 gameplay hours from x3 pro (even on lower settings)?
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Pointless comparison, Realme 8 SoC is about twice slower. It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf will empty their fuel tanks first. Ofcourse Ferrari will but there is a reason for that. Not to mention 120 vs 60 Hz screen.
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Pointless comparison, Realme 8 SoC is about twice slower. It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf will empty their fuel tanks first. Ofcourse Ferrari will but there is a reason for that. Not to mention 120 vs 60 Hz screen.
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Dude turn off this "protective" mode. I am not comparing, i am asking question.
I understand, you own this phone and it's most amazing thing you ever had.
"It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf"
Reality is that there are more powerful phones on smaller batteries and they live way longer then poco x3 pro. For example poco F3 with 4520 mAh. Even if x3 pro has 5160 mAh, it's battery is empty at point where F3 has more then 20%. And both phones has 120Hz screens. Only difference is that F3 has amoled display.
k3lcior, i am asking question (it's not comparison): why F3 with smaller battery lives way longer? Is it because of amoled display? Is it because of chip which is hot as hell? or?
if we compare processors:
Snapdragon 870 vs Snapdragon 860: tests and benchmarks
We put Qualcomm Snapdragon 870 against Snapdragon 860 to find out which SoC is better. See performance comparison in benchmarks and games.
nanoreview.net
we see that "Efficiency of battery consumption" is the same, so problem shouldn't be in cpu.
so, amoled display does all magic?
I'm not defensive and no it's not most amazing thing i ever had. And yes you are not comparing, but you are asking to compare no?
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so, amoled display does all magic?
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It does save battery when there are blacks on the screen because they are not 'powered' on AMOLED screens on that large screen it can make large difference. There are also more small details which also can make some difference for example SD card slot, Poco F3 doesn't have one and Poco X3 Pro has one which has to be powered at all times.
Not to mention GSM signal, small signal difference can easily make several % battery life difference which can be easily manipulated hence why these comparisons are idiotic.
And btw. here is less than 40 min. difference in battery life from what i see.
Edit: Also UFS 3.1 in Poco F3 is more power efficient compared to UFS 3.0 in X3 Pro.
Question was, if on poco x3 pro you can squeeze out 6+ hours of pubg gameplay (even on low quality).
Everything else was just additional info.
Why i am asking? Many poco x3 pro owners wrote that battery life is bad. I am trying to understand if problem is software based, or hardware. If software, it can be fixed, if hardware, then you have powerful phone with bad battery life. If F3 and X3 Pro are both on the same soft, then seems that problem is hardware based (IPS screen).
I saw this test and F3 has 24% of battery when x3 pro dies:
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Why i am asking? Many poco x3 pro owners wrote that battery life is bad.
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You will find people write this for every single phone there is on a planet. I already said what can make battery life difference between the 2 phones and it's not only screen, try reading again.
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try reading again.
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dude you are so toxic.. im out.
Actually I find your attitude toxic. You make some good points but you listen to nothing!
I could tell you that the phone is great, that your points are somehow valid but not really IRL. I'm afraid of your attack though.
Good luck with the phone.
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dude you are so toxic.. im out.
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Hi,
Curretnly i'm on the G3 and i dont like it much.
Thinking on 1 of these:
Xiaomi Mi4C
Asus Zenphone 2
Now, I asking that in Mi 4C Thread bc's i thinking that there is some people that might had this.
What do you think?
Thanks!
It comes down to preference really as I dont really like phones bigger than 5" and xiaomi is quite established. Its got the right size, ir blaster and a good SOC which should get good rom support, cm12.1 already available
Where are you based? The Global version of the Zenphone 2 has band 20 which the Mi 4c doesn't have (may be able to be unlocked manually but I'm doubtful). The Zenphone also has expandable storage which the Mi 4c lacks - you may already be used to this and the larger form factor due to currently using the G3. That said, I've heard (but cannot personally verify) that the Zenphone has erratic battery life and performance in addition to being more expensive than the Mi 4c.
ermacwins & wingsfortheirsmiles,
I got used to 5.5" so this is not an issue at all...
I from Israel and LTE bands are 1800 & 2600.
So from my understanding, both of them would work, right?
32gb are more than I need, so the expandable storage is not too important.
If the Zenphone do has erratic battery life and performance, it's a good reason to go for the Mi4C, isn't?
Anyone else suffered or heard on it?
Thanks very much!
shabydog said:
ermacwins & wingsfortheirsmiles,
I got used to 5.5" so this is not an issue at all...
I from Israel and LTE bands are 1800 & 2600.
So from my understanding, both of them would work, right?
32gb are more than I need, so the expandable storage is not too important.
If the Zenphone do has erratic battery life and performance, it's a good reason to go for the Mi4C, isn't?
Anyone else suffered or heard on it?
Thanks very much!
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Well, my Mi4C had battery drain. Around 3%/hour on idle with WiFi and 4G all off, so when I woke up a third of my battery was already gone. I ended up fixing it by flashing the international ROM but after that, I've been getting 5 hours of SoT which is great. Can't comment on the battery of the Zenfone.
Regarding the battery problem:
Looks like it could different between your's to anyone else.
I read a review in a site in my country and the person who made the review praise the battery life.
Thanks!
My Mi4c has very good battery life. The same like the z1 compact i had. Other phones i had i charged sometimes more than 2 times a day.
The zenfone 2 has worse battery life, build quality and performance. If you don't mind the SD card and 5" screen then the Mi4C is your phone. Zenfone 3 could be very interesting when (should be kinda soonTM) it gets released though!
Thank you all!
Go for the Mi4C.
P.S: A newer model of Mi series also coming soon?
How abt Redmi note 3?
No battery issue with my Mi4C. Left it idle for most part of the day with cellular and Wi-Fi connected the whole time and managed 0.7% / hour idle time. I also have many apps installed (not facebook or any messaging apps though). It's rooted and greenified, running original stable Chinese Miui 7 Rom with some Chinese bloat apps removed. It's also scoring 52K on antutu 6.
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Processing power wise, ZenFone 2 (the high end 32 GB internal memory with 4 GB RAM model) is comparable to Mi4C, the GPU is even slightly better. However, when it comes to video recording, ZenFone is waaaaay below Mi4C. The still image, if you use latest firmware, is already fixed though. Note that due to the use of Intel processor, some apps that use native libraries might not be installable. Ensure your apps are architecture-neutral or have both arm and intel version available.
OTOH, Mi4C has thermal issues and I still can't find the best thermal configuration so far. This causes the cores, both CPU and GPU, get shutted down or their upper limit is decreased to lower down the temperature. I break this limit by changing the limit a little bit higher, but if you play games while charging the phone, my best record reaches 90° C. Hot enough for a sleep killer tea
Happy deciding!
Having owned both phones i can say the Zen2 is a dud. The screen is dim, the speaker is weak, some apps drain crazy battery as they are using an ARM emulator to run on x86. It wobbles on the desk and the battery dies after your lunch break. The camera has low exposure that makes everything look darker than it is. The Mi4c just works like you expect a flagship to do.
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Processing power wise, ZenFone 2 (the high end 32 GB internal memory with 4 GB RAM model) is comparable to Mi4C, the GPU is even slightly better. However, when it comes to video recording, ZenFone is waaaaay below Mi4C. The still image, if you use latest firmware, is already fixed though. Note that due to the use of Intel processor, some apps that use native libraries might not be installable. Ensure your apps are architecture-neutral or have both arm and intel version available.
OTOH, Mi4C has thermal issues and I still can't find the best thermal configuration so far. This causes the cores, both CPU and GPU, get shutted down or their upper limit is decreased to lower down the temperature. I break this limit by changing the limit a little bit higher, but if you play games while charging the phone, my best record reaches 90° C. Hot enough for a sleep killer tea
Happy deciding!
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I dont believe in 90° C unless your phone is borked and termal throttling doesnt work, also phone would shut down anyway with that temperature.
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I dont believe in 90° C unless your phone is borked and termal throttling doesnt work, also phone would shut down anyway with that temperature.
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It is, well the screenshot I have is 87 actually in one of the many thermal zone (they're all varying from 60 or so) but during that time I did see and feel 90 (as a hot tea drinker, I know how hot is 90). Thankfully I have a flip cover that absorbs the heat, but if you touch the scree, it's really damn hot. Thermal throttling doesn't work on my device, because I've disabled the thermal driver :cyclops:
I don't really know the actual upper limit, but I guess it should be around 100-120. My PC was 120, but I don't think smartphone's SoC will differ much.
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It is, well the screenshot I have is 87 actually in one of the many thermal zone (they're all varying from 60 or so) but during that time I did see and feel 90 (as a hot tea drinker, I know how hot is 90). Thankfully I have a flip cover that absorbs the heat, but if you touch the scree, it's really damn hot. Thermal throttling doesn't work on my device, because I've disabled the thermal driver :cyclops:
I don't really know the actual upper limit, but I guess it should be around 100-120. My PC was 120, but I don't think smartphone's SoC will differ much.
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RIP phone.
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RIP phone.
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Hahaha, worry not, it's been back to normal temp (30-50). The problem only happens if you play resource intensive games while charging.
My last phone Mi4i also reached ~90°C after playing with the thermal engine. The flashlight turned on in the pocket of my pants and burned for half an hour. I just noticed it because my leg got hotter and hotter luckily the phone wasnt damaged through this. Also, i think the CPU can handle these temperatures without being damaged, but i would worry about other phone components such as SD Card, battery or glued components
Sorry, my antutu 6 score for my Mi4c was 685xx, not 52k.
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mmmh i think xiaomi mi4c only for battery
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 2, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 2 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
well made phone, doesn't feel flimsy. SD810 doesn't seem to have the heat issues, screen could be a little better outside, battery life is great, the notification slider on the side is brilliant idea. Oxygen OS by itself sucks but with Xposed and several modules made the phone tons better.
Nice nice phone. I don't regret it!
Battery
Battery standby is extreme long. Tested it: in 12hours lost 3%. (Wi-Fi and Mobile Network was permamently active in my test)
But the active display standby is ~~~ lame.
Its got bit warm than my one+1 but it's ok.
Chasis/Design
The Chasis of phone is real AlMg. You can brake someones nose with that (not tested! )
It feels good in my hands, a bit heavier than one+1
Buyed with Kevlar StyleSwap Cover. Too bad, it's not fitting perfectly but it sit.
Sound
Speakers are louder than my laptop speakers. Clear Sound, no scratches heared.
Speed test and stability
Fast app start, smooth scrolling, switches fast between the apps.
Antutu Benchmark test:
Test run fine with over 55fps average.
With fully installed apps, games, tools etc..
Benchmark result: >58000
Camera/Video
Photo quality is very good. Takes pictures faster as one+1 and in good quality. nothing to say negative about it.
Videos are in good quality too. You can take slow-motion videos too (720p with 120fps)
SD Card
It's a bit faster as in one+1!
~3451MB (28183 files) Recovery backup done in 74 sec.
64MB/s Read/Write speed.
For a phone with 64GB internal memory it's enough speed.
Well. That's all importand tests i have done. If i have missed something, write it down here. i try to answer.
EDIT:
Very easy to unlock bootloader. Same way as in one+1.
Done it in under 5 minutes
On my old phone it was a real ass-disaster... (Xperia S) Never ever again
There are minor software glitches. But I expect everything to be fine in coming months. More than decent performance
love...mostly
i like the oneplus 2 overall, but not yet real excited about oxygen and updates only about once a month since purchase.
the type c connector seems to be usb type 2. OP apparently neglected to make accessory cables (power & otg) for the type c connection on 1+2, except power cable that comes w/phone. this, as of dec., 2015.
For otg: apparently you must go backwards to their usb type 2 otg (made for 1+1) and use their adapter from micro usb to type c connector.
tried a 3rd party otg type c that is usb 3.1: incompatable. perhaps update will fix this (i hope, since i
want to be able to use a flash drive w/phone since it has no micro sd slot). snc
I can try many roms
I can try many roms
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 2, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 2 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
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Awesome phone
overall. i m very dissapointed with this phone. Beautiful hardware with strong internals, the oos just make this phone extremely slow
Really love the phone since i installed CM 13
That runs really smooth and fast + great batterylife
I don't know if my OPT is defective, the speaker volume is very low. youtube videos or music is "ok" but especially ringtones are very low, I can't hear them outside of my house. At work in my pants it's impossible to hear and feel the phone because the vibration isn't strong enough. If Frenk_Ryder writes that the speaker is louder then the notebook speakers it's hard to believe for me. really?
and the battery life is horrible on my device. plugged it off the charger on 6 am and have only 20 percent on 12 pm with 2 - 3 hours SOT. I'm using the unofficial mahdi builds of cm13. the performance is good but Android System seems to be a battery hogger. I don't know why or what's the problem.
oxygen OS lacks much features of Cyanogen OS or Cyanogenmod and is "not complete at all", and Android System always is on top of the battery stats list. what is the issue for that? I mean Oxygen OS 2.2.0, older versions may be better in terms of battery life?
I hope anyone can help me with my device. thx
Was contemplating going with the Galaxy S6, but the Notification Slider was a real deal-maker for me (especially being loyal to the Galaxy lineup since S1).
Now owning the 1+2, I noticed I can not discreetly silent my phone in my pocket without taking it out and drawing attention in a meeting).
Have any of you found the Notification Slider to be a lot more useful than you originally thought it to be?
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overall. i m very dissapointed with this phone. Beautiful hardware with strong internals, the oos just make this phone extremely slow
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Time to root & install another rom H2O is really fine, just try it :laugh:
Sprint82 said:
I don't know if my OPT is defective, the speaker volume is very low. youtube videos or music is "ok" but especially ringtones are very low, I can't hear them outside of my house. At work in my pants it's impossible to hear and feel the phone because the vibration isn't strong enough. If Frenk_Ryder writes that the speaker is louder then the notebook speakers it's hard to believe for me. really?
and the battery life is horrible on my device. plugged it off the charger on 6 am and have only 20 percent on 12 pm with 2 - 3 hours SOT. I'm using the unofficial mahdi builds of cm13. the performance is good but Android System seems to be a battery hogger. I don't know why or what's the problem.
oxygen OS lacks much features of Cyanogen OS or Cyanogenmod and is "not complete at all", and Android System always is on top of the battery stats list. what is the issue for that? I mean Oxygen OS 2.2.0, older versions may be better in terms of battery life?
I hope anyone can help me with my device. thx
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When does the issue appear about the volume speaker ?
For the battery life, try another rom ( CM13, Skydragon, H2O, .. )
Djarenga said:
Time to root & install another rom H2O is really fine, just try it :laugh:
When does the issue appear about the volume speaker ?
For the battery life, try another rom ( CM13, Skydragon, H2O, .. )
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tried almost all the roms, some have something or the other missing, others have serious battery drain some have wifi issues, others camera is bull****. I miss my z2 so much and i will sell my op2 and get a nexus 7 or whatever its called, when its released
awesome, just needs a bit of software polish...
Near flawless
I have had many phones, mostly Samsungs and LGs. Let me tell you this Oneplus 2 is the perfect phone. WIth the latest OOS 3.0.1 MM, Xposed with Gravitybox, and nova launcher on top, it's a brilliant setup. This thing gets higher scores than the Nexus 6p on every benchmark i've tested, I can game for at least 33 minutes straight of Nova3 (that's the longest straight time I've played any game so far) and no overheating and NO lagging or slowdowns. I don't understand the controversy over overheating and throttling, perhaps the latest models being manufactured are the best models. Overall, I love this phone, also, battery life is incredibly for me. I go two days without one charge and that's using texting about 500 sms a day and web browsing, light youtube, and light music, ON wifi. I've never had a phone quite like it, and for 350 bucks! Awesome.:good::good::good:
Coming from a clapped out Nexus 4, I wanted to really like my One Plus 2 (Oxygen OS 2.2.1) but it was hard; a perfectly adequate phone, but not overwhelming.
The Marshmallow upgrade to Oxygen 3.0.2 has made it the phone it should always have been. It's faster, the fingerprint unlock is better and instantaneous (and no need to wake the device first), the occasional stutters have stopped, the battery lasts longer on standby.
The two standout features for me, however, are not software. Firstly, the alert slider is brilliant. Secondly, there are plenty of cheap Dual SIM phones but few decent ones (in the UK at least).
I only got access to the true potential of the sd810 after switching to a custom rom & kernel
Its Great phone overall.
I guess the sales could be much larger quantities if there were not invites.
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I have developed a great degree of love for this phone, especially since it got a wealth of custom ROMs. It performs well, the battery life is excellent, it doesn't prevent me from installing custom ROMs or rooting, and all-in-all I love it. It handles everything I throw at it like a champ, and doesn't complain, and all for less than $300
its a good phone, but i had few hard times because of lack software updates from manufacturer (no android 7.0, no android 7.1, nothing) like on every other non-google phone, but thats life i finally fixed all major issues and it simply works, so i like it again
Hi,
I have Poco X2 and been using it for more than a month. I notice more temperatures even when not gaming and I saw some people got temperature warnings while using camera for more time. Realme X2 and Poco X2 have same chipsets but i see realme phone doesnt gets heat even while gaming and this poco also has LIQUID COOLING(whats the point of it). Is this software or hardware issue?. Can I believe that this issue be fixed after good software update?
It's one or two cases my phone never heats up, i play pubg on hdr settings (taking advantage of hdr display) and its warm to touch but never reached uncomfortable levels.
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Hi,
I have Poco X2 and been using it for more than a month. I notice more temperatures even when not gaming and I saw some people got temperature warnings while using camera for more time. Realme X2 and Poco X2 have same chipsets but i see realme phone doesnt gets heat even while gaming and this poco also has LIQUID COOLING(whats the point of it). Is this software or hardware issue?. Can I believe that this issue be fixed after good software update?
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yes it does heat up quite often. i feel it heats up more than other phones with same config. if i play a little or watch youtube while chagring it gets approx 40 degrees or even more. Dont know how they implemented the cooling system but its definetly doesnt work
hi people i am curious about undervolting and underclocking. is there a possibility that i can make my phone more enerrgy saver?? i don't need too much performance, i am just playing pubg at lowest settings 60fps and thee phone gives more than i need (i think). So... i need enough performance and longer battery life. what can i do
The biggest power consumer in the device is probably the display and not the CPU/GPU. Even if you undervolt, it's only a few millivolts anyway and that would hardly do anything. Setting the display as dark as possible would probably be the most efficient, although this won't work miracles either.
thorin0815 said:
The biggest power consumer in the device is probably the display and not the CPU/GPU. Even if you undervolt, it's only a few millivolts anyway and that would hardly do anything. Setting the display as dark as possible would probably be the most efficient, although this won't work miracles either.
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but i've got more when undervolted mi 9t pro.. by the way there is just a different cpu (732g vs 860) between x3 nfc and pro. And snapdragon 778 has adreno 642L gpu and it's TDP is 5w (860's is 10w). ANYWAY What is the difference between x3 nfc and pro?? x3 nfc has 10 hrs screen on time and x3 pro has approx. 7hrs. WHY???
samilbaba said:
x3 nfc has 10 hrs screen on time and x3 pro has approx. 7hrs. WHY???
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x3 nfc has about half processing power of x3 pro, that alone will make huge difference.
samilbaba said:
ANYWAY What is the difference between x3 nfc and pro?? x3 nfc has 10 hrs screen on time and x3 pro has approx. 7hrs. WHY???
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It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC before depleting the battery. Then, drop a...
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thorin0815 said:
The biggest power consumer in the device is probably the display and not the CPU/GPU. Even if you undervolt, it's only a few millivolts anyway and that would hardly do anything. Setting the display as dark as possible would probably be the most efficient, although this won't work miracles either.
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You are right!! Tested in 60hz and battery drained %7 in 38 mins. Such a good battery.
samilbaba said:
ANYWAY What is the difference between x3 nfc and pro?? x3 nfc has 10 hrs screen on time and x3 pro has approx. 7hrs. WHY???
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Of course, the CPU/GPU of the X3 NFC (5W TDP) consumes significantly less power compared to the X3 Pro (10W TDP), which means that the Screen On Time is higher compared to the X3 Pro. A computer with a Core i3 CPU and a GTX 1650 Super also consumes less power than a Core i7 with a RTX 3060 Ti. You can of course undervolt the CPU/GPU of the X3 Pro, but you will probably never get the power consumption close to the X3 NFC. The cores architecture, clock rates, the internal memory and the memory bus + RAM speed used in both devices are also different, so that you can't really compare them.
The SD860 is about twice as fast as the SD732G (at least in synthetic gaming benchmarks), so it should be clear that this additional performance has to be bought with additional consumption somehow.
thorin0815 said:
Of course, the CPU/GPU of the X3 NFC (5W TDP) consumes significantly less power compared to the X3 Pro (10W TDP), which means that the Screen On Time is higher compared to the X3 Pro. A computer with a Core i3 CPU and a GTX 1650 Super also consumes less power than a Core i7 with a RTX 3060 Ti. You can of course undervolt the CPU/GPU of the X3 Pro, but you will probably never get the power consumption close to the X3 NFC. The cores architecture, clock rates, the internal memory and the memory bus + RAM speed used in both devices are also different, so that you can't really compare them.
The SD860 is about twice as fast as the SD732G (at least in synthetic gaming benchmarks), so it should be clear that this additional performance has to be bought with additional consumption somehow.
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You are right... But İ wanna try something. can i use mi 9t pro underclocking manual on x3 pro ???? you know the 855 and 860 are same
samilbaba said:
You are right... But İ wanna try something. can i use mi 9t pro underclocking manual on x3 pro ???? you know the 855 and 860 are same
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They are very similar but not identical. Nevertheless, the guide for the 9T Pro should probably serve as a good reference. In any case, make a backup beforehand, every chip reacts differently. I wish you the best of luck and let us know how it turned out.
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They are very similar but not identical. Nevertheless, the guide for the 9T Pro should probably serve as a good reference. In any case, make a backup beforehand, every chip reacts differently. I wish you the best of luck and let us know how it turned out.
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i found this
For undervolting you would probably need a custom kernel.
samilbaba said:
You are right... But İ wanna try something. can i use mi 9t pro underclocking manual on x3 pro ????
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Underclocking is not worth it.
I did a full-time test on NoGravity Kernel with PC Mark. Way worse performance and a ridiculous 30minutes gain (minimum screen brightness)
Left is normal balanced Profile. Right is battery saver with reduced maximum frequency.
Haldi4803 said:
For undervolting you would probably need a custom kernel.
Underclocking is not worth it.
I did a full-time test on NoGravity Kernel with PC Mark. Way worse performance and a ridiculous 30minutes gain (minimum screen brightness)
Left is normal balanced Profile. Right is battery saver with reduced maximum frequency.
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sir please can you try this on lowest frequency( i mean 720g-like performance )?????? im not expecting to work battery test, it takes too much time so dont hurt yourself. just what are your thougths
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sir please can you try this on lowest frequency( i mean 720g-like performance )??????
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Approximately half of the CPU cores would have to be deactivated completely and even then the 720g would probably still have the edge in terms of power consumption, because the GPU of the SD860 also has three times as many shader units as that of the 720g and accordingly it consumes more power.
Years ago I played around a lot with UC/UV on smartphones, but in the end it wasn't really worth it. And it seems that it's still not worth the effort, as Haldi4803 has shown with his post.
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Approximately half of the CPU cores would have to be deactivated completely and even then the 720g would probably still have the edge in terms of power consumption, because the GPU of the SD860 also has three times as many shader units as that of the 720g and accordingly it consumes more power.
Years ago I played around a lot with UC/UV on smartphones, but in the end it wasn't really worth it. And it seems that it's still not worth the effort, as Haldi4803 has shown with his post.
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Yes sir you are right!! 60hz is working good on energy saving. One more question: in the screenshots, first graph is beginning when %90 and the second %75. is there a wrong thing???
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sir please can you try this on lowest frequency( i mean 720g-like performance
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Battery saver preset already reduces big cores to 1400mhz or something like that.
You see performance from 12'000 to 8'500 which is about 30% performance drop. But there is no 30% Battery life increase, but only 3%.
Might be different for GPU underclocking. But I haven't really taken a lookt at that,as I don't play games on my phone.
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In the screenshots, first graph is beginning when %90 and the second %75. is there a wrong thing???
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No. Both started properly at 100%. The app just fails.
You can see the 2nd screenshot go down to 20% at Pass 80 but then still going over pass 120.
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Battery saver preset already reduces big cores to 1400mhz or something like that.
You see performance from 12'000 to 8'500 which is about 30% performance drop. But there is no 30% Battery life increase, but only 3%.
Might be different for GPU underclocking. But I haven't really taken a lookt at that,as I don't play games on my phone.
No. Both started properly at 100%. The app just fails.
You can see the 2nd screenshot go down to 20% at Pass 80 but then still going over pass 120.
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Thank you
i got two simple solutions.
1) set framerate in pubg to smooth and low at the beginning of the game. when you go for fights just increase it to extreme. also set low framerate in lobby. this will definitely keep device cool and save a lot of battery.
2) use venella os and freeze all the apps with icebox app. leave only few apps this will also makes device cooler while playing games personally i have noticed calyx os keeps this device very cool.
The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency, which will cause the phone to heat up easily.
Therefore, I decided to limit the CPU clock frequency of the Tensor G2. By adjusting the overheating threshold, the CPU clock frequency limit can be achieved. Keep your Pixel 7 Pro super cool, not hot at all, and with longer battery life.
I made a Magisk module for your input, if you are also troubled by the heat of Pixel 7 Pro, then you can try this module.
Here is the download link.
Cool Down Your Pixel.zip
drive.google.com
My Pixel 7 Pro is already cool. Never ever even mildly warm. But i dont play games
With the case on, when charging it reaches 40 degrees. But otherwise it's... Ok I guess?
Summer is coming and he's going to be hot, using a Pixel in China.
Dovahpig said:
My Pixel 7 Pro is already cool. Never ever even mildly warm. But i dont play games
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Thank you!!!
Great, I had to test this. I have the Battery Guru, and I have set the temperature to 30 but it always prompts, even when I am using it for minimal work. Can you share some performance benchmarks, either with Battery Guru or Better Battery Stats? and the source on github?
Great i want to test
Not trying to be negative as I like this idea!
'The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency'
Do you have data to proof that or are you guessing?
'which will cause the phone to heat up easily'
I have not really noticed that. in fact my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra gets much warmer than the p7p.
Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
blackspp said:
Not trying to be negative as I like this idea!
'The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency'
Do you have data to proof that or are you guessing?
'which will cause the phone to heat up easily'
I have not really noticed that. in fact my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra gets much warmer than the p7p.
Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
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Data to prove that the efficiency of G2 is poor? Sure, sir.
This shows Tensor G1, and Tensor G2 introduced an additional X1 core (2x X1 cores) and didn't improve the efficiency much apart from being slightly more efficient since it's based on 4nm.
So, long story short, G2 is somewhere between Exynos 2100 and 888 when it comes to efficiency and neither of these two mentioned is really efficient.
Pixel 4's SD855 is more efficient than both Pixel 6 and 7. lol
There is plenty of power measurement data and how the SOC behaves under load, feel free to research.
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The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency, which will cause the phone to heat up easily.
Therefore, I decided to limit the CPU clock frequency of the Tensor G2. By adjusting the overheating threshold, the CPU clock frequency limit can be achieved. Keep your Pixel 7 Pro super cool, not hot at all, and with longer battery life.
I made a Magisk module for your input, if you are also troubled by the heat of Pixel 7 Pro, then you can try this module.
Here is the download link.
Cool Down Your Pixel.zip
drive.google.com
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mind posting the correction of values? at what temp it starts to throttle? is something else tweaked as well? im too lazy to look at the code myself lol
Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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Installed it several days ago. Noticed that charging fell to a crawl, to the point I thought my charger or cable was bad. Uninstalled immediately.
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Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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No lag, stuttering or freezing. No issues with charging. Temperature stays lower than normally, for example while using chrome or other browser temperature used to spike up to 60-65° within few minutes but now it's down to 50-55°. I didn't notice any change in battery life.
innit said:
temperature used to spike up to 60-65
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How did you measure?
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Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
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I'm also curious to know what performance gains or battery efficiencies Pixel phones have with their 'clean' software.
5 second delay in the camera app when changing from photo to video or changing from back camera to front...
krakout said:
Installed it several days ago. Noticed that charging fell to a crawl, to the point I thought my charger or cable was bad. Uninstalled immediately.
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@fenibook , can you add any conditions to the module so it's inactive when the phone is charging either reorh cable or wirelessly?
For me camera works fine. Also, installed again on QPR3 and charging seems ok.
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For me camera works fine. Also, installed again on QPR3 and charging seems ok.
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Yes my bad.. It was the one plus hide navigation bar module I used.. It was the only one that worked fine with android 13.. Does anyone know a proper one to hide that pill bar?!
Chrisnik said:
Yes my bad.. It was the one plus hide navigation bar module I used.. It was the only one that worked fine with android 13.. Does anyone know a proper one to hide that pill bar?!
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AOSPmods, works fine for that. Some of the stuff is incompatible with 13 QPR3, but hiding the pill works fine.
krakout said:
AOSPmods, works fine for that. Some of the stuff is incompatible with 13 QPR3, but hiding the pill works fine.
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The brightness bar from quick panel works OK or gets stuck when you slide it?!